Thread 721131021

Levels of comfyness

Imagine Hornet waking up to Lace sucking her ass in the middle of the night for some silk

Review
>Game is balanced like ass
It's not good that many act 1 bosses are harder than silkmother lol
>Bad economy
Shards make no sense. They should remove them and put less charges for tools if they don't want people spamming them. Rosaries are too few. It would all be fixed if room gauntlets left you beads but they give you nothing< which leads me to:
>Rewards suck
There is nothing to get. You kill a boss you get nothing. You kill a room, you get nothing. You get to a secret room you get 20 shitty beads.
One of the biggest rewards is a silk heart which gives you... 1 silk bar at a bench lmao.
>Double damage
I'm fine with strong attacks getting double damage, I'm not fine with shitty attacks and non big enemies dealing 2 damage even on contact damage. Its retarded and it's artificial difficulty. Its like playing original hollow knight with the god master impediments.
>Charm system sucks
Tools are cool I guess but resource management is retarded, they cost too much shards and you can use them too many times so they can be abused.
There is no reason to not use the dices or the poisson, too many garbage charms
>Lace sucks
As lore. I don't know who is this bitch but apparently I'm supposed to care for her. A downgrade with the antagonists in hollow knight
>Backtracking
It sucks. Nothing would be lost with more benches. I already do the backtracking hitless, don't make me waste time and let me fight the fucking boss.

Hunter Pogo is fine I guess, hitbox is a bit retarded but you get used to it and it ends up feeling nice.
>Movement costing silk is retarded
Harpoon, super jump and many skills use silk which is retarded because healing takes much silk and unless you go no hit autist mode you can't use them, in which at that point you don't really need them. Healing system is retarded too, 3 heals as base is stupid.

>>721131456
I mean, yes, but also, the spiders are hot. Look at those hips.

>>721131021 (OP)
do you guys think hornet would fuck the huge flea

>>721131468
Cool bosses: Karmelita (number 1), cogwork dancers, silkmother (too easy), lace, widow, first sinner, 4 chorus (easy but good as an introductory boss), last judge (obviously), phantom
Bosses that suck: the fly, Groal, basically everything that uses cheap double damage for everything as an excuse for a challenge.

Overview: hollow knight was better, this game suffers from many dark souls II/Elden ring cheap tricks bullshit, if you remove that it's almost a perfect game.

We are moving through threads far too quickly.

>>721131543
She already fucked a bunch of bugs, so why not?

>>721131462
Hornet can regenerate silk almost instantly when she's resting, so I can see her needing Lace to "drain" some silk constantly or she starts feeling uncomfortable.
>>721131468
>Tdlr: I suck.

Weaver=spider and wyrm=worm ?

The Weavers just couldn't handle finding out they were adopted.

>>721131575
We must find more weavers to sustain us

>>721131524
I still want to know what would happen if we had just let GMS wake up
>Your deadbeat children set up a fake religion to keep you imprisoned, but they're all dead now. You've been mind controlling the population in your sleep ever since. Could you please stop and let me leave?
Kind of a "Why didn't Malenia and Radahn just talk it out" moment BEFORE the DLC dropped you know what I mean.

Aae ruh!

>>721131653
Nah, beat the game, I'm in the club. But the game is balanced like ass. It hasn't been playtested.

>>721131021 (OP)
Reposting this from the other thread:
Its pretty neat how you can tell that the Weavers descendants are slowly reverting back to their origin species over time, given the similarities between the Deepnest spiders and the original spider guys that GMS ascended into the Weavers.
Its like the powers that elevated them are slowly depleted with each new generation born.

>>721131543
No, stop perverting her childish, innocent side of liking fluffy things.
>>721131594
Headcanon and also retarded, sentient bugs are clearly different than beast like bugs.

>Died to this fat fuck more than the final boss of Act 3
Mental stack is a real thing

>fleas make noise so you know when there's one nearby
>except for the ones that don't
What's the point if it's going to be inconsistent?

>>721131683
wyrm was a giant worm, like, the body is an entire zone.

>>721131653
>Hornet needs to regularly have her silk milked or she gets backed up and uncomfortable
That's kinda hot

>>721131683
Wyrms can change forms, but one of those is worm-like

>be shit at the game, stuck on Phantom for the last few sessions
>got to 0 shards
>almost out of flea brew
>suddenly figured out the easy trick to beat her
stop sitting so close to the screen you retarded fuck
Beat it first try after the change.
Choral Chambers was a great moment, I think it's comparable or better than City of Tears.
But now of course
>exploring gathering shitton of rosaries in new area
>"ooh a big elevator, a shortcut?"
>stuck in Underworks now
Do I just go bottom right to get out of here? Exploration sucks in this area, the rewards are terrible (I get it, the lore)

>>721131826
I just want a game where we can play as Second Sentinel

>>721131740
There's no club. You suck.

>>721131808
>Headcanon
What do you think she meant by the "multiple bugs she's mated with"?

>>721131801
the lore text near the ruined tool implied that they would eventually losie their power over silk and the tool was created in preparation for that

>>721131868
But he is small, hornet size

>Stopped posting his pic to make his bait less obvious
Kwab

What's the optimal build for shaman?
I'm using volt filament, egg of flealia and longclaw.

>>721131937
Said no one ever

>>721131986
he changed his body (he's a god) so he could fuck a spider and a tree.

>>721131923
>Do I just go bottom right to get out of here
Right and up

The jellyfish were creations of Monomon, right?
Then what the fuck is she?
How did the nonstandard bugs like bees and mantis gain sentience? Seemingly only the "pilgrim" bugs were uplifted to sentience

>>721131468
Shards make perfect sense as a long term resource. Perhaps you could learn to manage your tool use better, instead of pissing your pants.

I have only ever run out of shards when I was spamming to empty over and over again to trivialize new enemies that spooked me. I learned my lesson and adapted to the game instead of bitching.

Spent the last 5-6 hours just doing pointless chores to unlock act 3, this shit better be kino...

Where can I fight the faggot mantis? Last time I saw it it was crying on the cowork dancers

>>721131543
She's 100% into fleas
https://litter.catbox.moe/o8q3e392d9guw20z.png

>>721131021 (OP)
eyo does the start menu backdrop change depending what level you're in in game?

>>721131986
>He doesn't know
Kingdom's Edge shows us what the Pale King used to be before molting into his newer form.

>>721132102
Act 3

>>721132045
Wasn't always a tree, turned into one so she wouldn't have to churn out voidigger babies anymore.

>>721132102
You need to be in Act 3.

>>721131923
Up.
There's an easy to miss vertical exit in a dark room in Choral.

>>721132053
>Nuu
>Grindle
>Doctor fly (can't remember name)
Anyone else she slaps?
She can hit the Flea guy but only with a sword I think

>>721132106
Danke, Herr Dogtor.

>>721131963
>build those tools of brilliant mind imagined, aid us when our Silk has waned

>...strength beyond our Silk...
>...enough to keep us free...

>>721132106
>kratt
no

>>721132143
Why'd she chain herself up though

The Grand Mother Silk shibari in the Lost Lace arena was kinda hot

>>721131952
She doesn't say "mated", she says none of her previous mates could match her lifespan, you're the one turning a sad passage on the journal as something weird.

>>721131021 (OP)
Alright. I'm starting to think Act 3 kind of sucks. The first Abyss sequence was the first time the game genuinely felt mean-spirited to me, and the run-backs on dream bosses are both boring and resource draining.

I dont get why people like cogwork dancers its such a boring, baby mode fight
Even clover dancers was boring and easy

>>721132064
No it doesn't lol, enemies drop almost no shards, you have too many charges for them and they cheese bosses. You are not incentivated to use them because of shard costs and with a new boss you don't know how many tries is gonna get. If everything was like first sinner or act 3 that let's you not waste them it would be ok


You would be better off with less charges and no shards, recharging at benches is already enough.

>>721132214
>baited

What are the best DPS tools? I've been using the Wanderer Crest with Longclaw,
Memory Crystal and Magnetite Dice.

>>721132218
that's why they like it

>>721132218
Music is good

>>721132051
Maybe they can slowly evolve sentience naturally or be insta evolved by a higher being

>>721131952
she's just friends with them

>>721132218
Aesthetic is cool and fight is cool. Not everything has to be autism fighting with trash spam on screen.

>if you turn in all 7 mossberries in the game you get an upgraded version of the druid's eye
fuuuuuuuck

>>721132198
Because she kicked her breeding instinct into maximum overcow to pump out vessels, so she needed to chain herself once they didn't need any more.

>>721132198
She has an insatiable need to breed. It wasn't proper.

>>721132283
Which is weird, why is so much of the music in this so bland/forgettable?
Hollow Knight was filled with great themes.

>>721132239
none of my previous baits could match my shitposting

>>721132216
git gud

>>721132214
My bad, she turned bri'ish and was referring to the mate she goes to the pub with. Especially int he context of a pair of bonded flies.

>>721132218
Great presentation and fun gimmick. Not every boss has to kick your ass to be good.

Is there a way to get into these upper areas of Sands of Karak right now or is that a later thing? I beat Silk and am trying to find out how to progress to what I assume is the Radiance equivalent path in this game but this is the one area I can see yet can't get too yet.

>>721132278
flintslate, weighted belt, barbed bracelet

>>721132136
>>721132152
Already on it. What now

>>721132218
Music is good, fight feels like a dance

>>721132218
Don't worry, Anon.
You'll get your wish in Godhome when we get the Cogwork Quartet.

>>721132371
why does everyone skip mount fay it's so cool :(

>>721132371
Yeah, you can enter from the right.

>>721132393
No you see? It needs spikes on the ground, a swamp and enemy spam

>>721132335
What tools can you upgrade?
I know of the druid eye, the boomerang and the mirror.

>>721132371
Go down third room from the right, there's a thing you can hit

>>721132053
HOW CAN SHE SLAP?!

>>721132371
Investigate that vertical shaft near you that has a dead-end to the south

>>721132361
I feel like there's some sort of middle ground between "kicking your ass" and "you literally cannot die unless you look away from the screen and go do something else".

>>721132392
east

>>721132392
If you can access the dream fights, go to Greymoor. Go to the Coliseum of Birds arena. Keep walking right, there's an outcropping at the ground floor of the very rightmost bit of the room. That door is now open. He's inside. If you can't access the dream fights yet or you don't know what that even means, keep playing until it makes sense.

>>721132193
Ah, I see
https://litter.catbox.moe/29m43uvuthxv6217.png

>>721132357
Disingenuous retard.

>>721132341
>Literally built for breeding.
I don't blame her.

>>721132454
I guess you can count Broken Tool in that lineup.
Dunno how the others fare, but I've gotten good mileage out of the Original.

>Flying enemies input reading your attacks to dash out of your range is so consistent that speedrunners exploit it to move enemies out of their way by up-attacking the air just to whiff and bait out the movement
L M A O
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Bravo, Australia.

>>721132343
I'm having the "forgettable" issue as well, but I'm not sure why. The music is all quite good, but as soon as I step away the songs playing in my head are all from the first game. Except Bilewater, apparently. Bilewater has stuck with me.

>>721132441
A lot of players get there, notice the frost buildup, and assume they need an upgrade to get through.

>>721132556
It's just like flies in real life.

>>721131994
I am that anon and I beat Phantom second try, after a long first battle. Last Judge killed me in about five seconds both tries, but that was because the shotput into a jump that I had no foreknowledge to expect killed me the first time and then I thought the whirlybird was the shotput my second try. I haven't done a third attempt yet. I think part of the reason I found Phantom relatively easy is because it felt like a Hollow Knight boss. A lot of things in Silksong seem balanced around Hunter Crest and Hornet's abilities in general. I did all bosses Radiant in HK and I've been struggling with Silksong because I have fairly ingrained HK muscle memory from grinding out the HoG. I am still constantly finding myself trying to do things which would work in HK but don't work here and I haven't adapted yet. Phantom (and Lace) feeling like a boss from HK made them easy for me despite struggling with a lot of other encounters.

>>721132467
It's just a fun little puzzle, anon. You're overthinking it. It activates your pattern recognition neurons in a way that's very pleasant.

>>721132441
Passive health loss scary.

>>721132568
too far

>>721132442
>>721132457
>>721132464
Thanks can't believe I didn't check down there

>>721132579
It is a bit worrying the first time you see it. They probably should've introduced the safe-zone mechanic before the clawline hook you need to reach the rest of the area.

>>721132621
Unlike real life though, Hornet can't pick up a rock from the floor to bean the little faggots with and bring them to ground.

>>721132504
woah

>>721132556
There are many things in the game I feel team cherry designed with speedruners in mind first and the rest of the players second. Its small things, like a small dent in the ground in some maps, spikes and enemy placement, even some charms.

Maybe having 1 shitty silk bar is good for speed trannies but it doesn't really make a difference for the rest of players.

>>721131468
>>Rewards suck
This is the one thing that I noticed the most playing and going through HK again.
HK teases you with the obvious metroidvania obstacles that hint at "Come back here after you get X power up", and while Silksong does the same, going back through the map often leads to getting shards or some measly beads. In HK, these led to grubs, charms, stuff for the collector, bosses, etc.
>>Double damage
Agreed. It feels cheap. For almost 30 hours I had 6 masks at most, and way too many enemies deal double damage. You get used to it pretty quickly, but it still feels cheap when almost everything has a combo attack or just outrigh kills you.
>Backtracking
Doesn't feel that bad in my eyes. Then again, I'm just collecting the songs, just beat High Halls, and now I'm exhausting the map before continuing.
>Lace
Eh, don't know how to feel about her. She's barely showed up and I'm not a lore guy, so I haven't stopped to read and analyze every bit of text the game throws. Sherma was done beautifully instead , because you see him everywhere and always makes you smile. As of now, I've seen Lace twice, and if the game suddenly tries to get me to care, I'll just shrug.

>>721132579
Surely those same players didn't get abducted to The Slab earlier? The prison break does a good job of forcing you to learn how cold works.

Maybe they need to make that harder to miss.

>>721132637
>puzzle
There's no puzzle, the boss indicates where they're going to attack and then they attack. how is that a puzzle?

>>721132684
I swear they do at the top of the Slab but not everyone gets caught so they fucked up regardless

>>721132556
I feel like it was done with the double jump in mind.
I suddenly stopped having issues with nailing flying mobs the moment I got it with the Architect moveset.

>>721132704
>Maybe having 1 shitty silk bar is good for speed trannies but it doesn't really make a difference for the rest of players
Do you mean the silk heart? It's a sort of balance thing. This way you can still use all your movement to traverse and do platforming, while not being able to just hook spam a boss from the other side of the map.

>>721132736
>The prison break does a good job of forcing you to learn how cold works.
I saw the ring things and assumed it would be a waste of time until I got that movement

>when you're living next to fleatopia and the fleas start singing again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s7HlyZV6y8

>>721132642
>>721132441
>>721132579
This is why playtesting your game is important. It's not only about damage points or resources, shit like this can easily be overlooked by a developer with the knowledge a blind player doesn't have.

>>721132410
How about the Death-Cogcore Quintet?

Does barbed bracelet increase tool damage?

>>721132343
>>721132576
I thought Silksong's OST was on par with Hollow Knight, I don't know why people suck HK's OST off as some exceptional masterwork when literally any Castlevania soundtrack is better

>>721132736
I killed the only jailer fly I saw before opening the slab from the citadel and no longer being able to get abducted. That path also takes you straight to Mt. Fay. It's actually pretty good odds that if you see it before clawline, you're not getting jailed.

heres the trick to hunt these guys

play your guitar and they will come to sing, then kill them

Must have taken Team Cherry a ton of self control to not just make this guy the bug version of Patches. Was legit expecting him to send me straight into a death trap at some point.

>>721132840
Hook spamming the enemies isn't even really that big a thing because they can still hit you on approach and knock you out of it, if you try spamming the hook carelessly in places like coral tower you will be raped. If by spamming hook you mean "they can no longer get away with running indefinitely like faggots beyond your ability to chase," then who the fuck cares, it's not like the status quo isn't really annoying. The player fighting in a gimp suit isn't the most fun experience.

>>721132840
Wouldn't it be better if those skills didn't use silk in the first place and if you don't want the player to abuse them put a bit of cooldowns or a number limit?
Also dash jump has delay for some reason. This stuff feels it was designed for speedruners first.

>>721132579
>>721132684
This. In hindsight I should've known that there'd be fireplaces to fight the cold after seeing them in the Slab, but I just guessed there'd be a cold immunity cloak that I'd have to find first. Putting one of the heat things right at the entrance to Mt. Fay would have probably helped.

>>721132736
Sure but when there's an entire zone of that most players decide to go back and see if there's an anti-frost item, and then go back to Mt. Fey when it's the only thing left. At the very least you need to get the clawline, which most people won't get until mid to late act 2, and get jailed in act 1.

I never played any of the free updates to original HK I didn't get the bee lore
>captcha M8MMY

>>721132903
To be fair, Silksong's OST is great, but it doesn't have anything close to GRIMM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDJGY92Gv6k

>>721132903
>>721132576
>>721132343
Bilewater is good, Karmelita is cool, coral chambers is good too, cowork dancers is cool.

Post pretty bench rooms, I just got to act 2 and haven't seen enough.
I was disappointed in Choral Chambers when there was a little pillow by a hookah looking thing and it wasn't a bench

>>721132218
lol i died the most to cogwork dancers in my run

>>721131021 (OP)
>Silksong DLC
>Adds in more "Song" themed content, in Acts 1,2 & 3
Thats all I've got, honestly no clue on how to properly implement music into altering the game world or quests.

>>721133016
It's not in the original HK either, but the devs when they were developing HK imagined Hornet as a child of three queens, with the last one being the hive queen who trained and named her. Basically giving her a tie to as much of Hallownest as possible so she's a stand-in for Hallownest itself.

>>721133016
There wasn't much, it was just a cool simple area with a unique look

>>721133023
That and the Godclimbing music are the only good songs in HK in my opinion, nothing else really stuck out but I'm not one for ambient music, Silksong doesn't have any good boss music so far either though

>>721133126
Dreamnail was better than the needlelin.
I was spamming the music everywhere and got nothing. And zones like the mistwasn't clear you where supposed to use it

>>721132903
>suck HK's OST off as some exceptional masterwork
That wasn't my intention, but yeah the over the top fawning is annoying.
I've just noticed that for some reason the Silksong tracks (which I like) aren't as sticky. I don't have hundreds of hours in HK either.

>>721133023
Well Grimm's a DLC boss so it's not the fairest of comparisons. Wait until Silksong get's a crazy schizo megaboss and then we'll see

>>721132974
But a cooldown would prevent you from having those fast chained claw line platformign segments, where you hit one, and get silk for the next one.
>>721132969
Idk, that's just my guess. Maybe during testing people would default to using harpoon and run as the "safe" strategy.

there should be a tool that's a portable bench

>>721133126
>how to properly implement music into altering the game world or quests.
Platforming hell gauntlet where you have to play needolin to spawn every platform

>>721131021 (OP)
The hunt for these guys fucking sucked.
Absolute dickheads, all of them.

>>721132840
>>721132969
To add to this, a time I really noticed how oppressive the Hook Costs Silk mechanic is was First Sinner. I spent a few attempts using the hook to chase after her teleports. It was really fun. But it was raping my ability to heal from the constant silk drain and I think it made the fight harder than just dashing when possible and letting her win when it's not. I left that fight feeling like that tactic was being unfairly punished for how much fun it was to pull off and how complete it made the mirror match between you and her feel.

>>721132961
It's a zither

>>721133247
You literally get the silk cost refunded if you hit an enemy with it, so stop missing.

>>721133190
>it's not the fairest of comparisons
Not sure. He counted as DLC for a kickstarter game. Silksong was in development for 7 years with an experienced team and practically infinite money.

>>721133235
Yeah, that was a good one. At the time I did it, I hadn't seen any other enemy be so aggressive.
Pretty tense.

>>721133247
You really shouldn't need to heal in that fight as long as you get the clawline timing down - most of the time you end up landing in a safe zone unless she does her diagonal or her autistic dash.

>>721133247
Good on you for realizing that Clawline is a meme. Unless you're healing, conserve your fucking silk.

>>721132903
I agree on virtually every Castlevania soundtrack being better, but that's not entirely fair because Castlevania has arguably the best music of any series. Only Megaman compares, and I think Megaman slightly loses.

That said, the stupid fucking bug noises are top tier and I think the combination of the bug noises and the soundtrack work together to make for amazing sound design in both HK and SS. It probably wasn't even intentional. I doubt they planned for the voices to work so well with the background music but it does and I can't explain why. It's just fucking grunts and shouts but it fits.

>>721133331
It's oftentimes not up to you, she can and will chain teleport or she'll be outside the hook range and you're just using it as an approach tool that might fail. Again, needlessly punishing. Team Cherry unironically has a big problem as a devteam in that they're fixated on the notion you have to pay taxes to have fun. I'm uhhhhhh not fucking paying bro.
>>721133437
I'm sure I'd need less healing now, but I'm talking about the me 30 hours of gameplay ago.

Beast Crest is actually top 2 in the game.

>>721133516
>being bad at the game is "paying taxes"
God you can't go five minutes without whining about something

>>721133332
>a kickstarter game vs. an experience team with infinite bux
Because Team Cherry chose not to scale the company it doesn't really mean anything to talk in those terms. They're still just a couple of weird dudes making their One Idea That Caught On.

>>721132371
You can enter the area

How can I hunt those sand worms from the left map

>>721133185
Silksong has more areas than Hollow Knight but they're relatively smaller so you end up spending less time in each of them. Also some areas like the Marrow and Deep Docks only have their big melodies in certain areas so you end up hearing the music even less. The town themes are really good but you don't spend enough fucking time in them to actually hear them in full, Bonebottom is the biggest offender there. So a lot of the music just doesn't end up being heard unless you directly listen to the soundtrack

>>721133593
I always have fun using Beast, I just wish the pogo wasn't such fucking cancer.

I'm desperately trying to think of things left to do, can't believe I'm close to being done with the game...

>>721133698
The skill the weavenest there teaches you

>>721133621
Yeah dumbass, paying silk for basic movement tech is a fun tax. Had to stop and pause to wait for my silk to refill at multiple instances during the climbs up Fay Mountain and Nameless Village too because sometimes you need more rapid jumps than you have 2 free bars. Tell me one other metroidvania that does that. You need to pay HP to use morph ball boost in metroid prime? No. Not even the mega tryhard metroid games like Metroid Dread do that. This is a pretty exclusive Team Cherry brainrot.

>>721132882
tbf you can beat Act 2 without going to Fey so it's not like they didn't know

>>721132441
>Be me
>Assume Fey is optional for some reason, even after I get the hookshot, because it's so difficult (it's not)
>Spend multiple hours with no fucking idea where to go after beating the High Halls gauntlets because I somehow completely missed the holes in the floor in the Cogwork Dancers room and you don't have the map
>Go back and do the mountain (it wasn't even that hard) because I don't know where else to go
>Get double jump, explore the remaining areas
>They still don't lead to where I need to go
>wtf.jpg
>Finally find the correct path.
I'm fucking brain damaged.

>>721132568
Considering how much Hornet loves fluffy stuff, he really blew it. He could've had a shot, if only he weren't who he is

Bilewater and Sinner's Road weren't that bad, you guys are just a bunch of babies.
>t anon who died a lot in silksong and hated the game overall

>>721132991
>I should've known that there'd be fireplaces to fight the cold
Maybe a fireplace right at the beginning before the rings wouldnt have hurt, just to show that there are possible safe zones.

>>721133438
Clawline is the best part of the game, althoughbeit.
>>721133247
Agreed. You only need to heal while you're learning a boss. After doing Hall of Gods anyone should understand that evasion and offense are paramount. We will get a Hall of Gods in Silksong, and it will be optimized by clawlinechads. MAYBE the majority will beat it by using their silk on the counter but I bet the swiftest victors will beat it via the grappling hook.

>>721133593
shhh, don't tell them

>>721133774
LITERALLY just don't miss and it's free. Why are you blaming the game because you're bad? What other game do you blame for your own ineptitude? I do not want to play a game that rewards you for failure.

>>721133984
>>721133593
You people just want to hear Hornet make rawr sounds.

>>721134025
>Dude just be perfect
Shut up, faggot, try again with a real argument.

>>721132441
I forgot the slab existed after getting the hook, even after I saw the rings my first time there. There's no real incentive to go there either, until you learn about the double jump.

>>721133689
Impressive

>>721133593
Nah keep complaining so Team Cherry thinks it sucks and gives it a blue crest

I'm in the underworks, the confession booth is "look how shitty the Citadel is" right? Just a waste of money?

>been stuck at the flea juggle for an hour now
What the fuck is wrong with me? The other two minigames were so easy.

>>721134059
Yeah

So what is the upside to the witch crest to justify the worse bind? Just getting an extra blue slot?

>>721134059
It is what you make of it.

Do I need to be pregnant to get the witch ending?

>>721134121
I think the dash attack was pretty beast for the few 5 seconds I had to use it

>>721134059
It's lore, saying pilgrims come to the citadel only to get worked to death and then reanimated so they can work even more. You can get behind that booth later and find what's talking.

>>721133774
Do the Megaman Rush powers count?
You use Weapon Energy to be able to super jump via Rush Coil or clear horizontal gaps with Rush Jet. If you run out of Weapon Energy during a stage, tough luck, kill enemies and hope they drop weapon energy or replay the stage.
I've personally felt a lot of Megaman DNA in Silksong, actually.

>>721134158
Yes you have to defeat GMS while nerfed like that.

>>721134060
Other minigames don't rely on crest/equips as heavily

>>721134121
>best moveset
>your heals hit like a truck
>extra blue
It's solid.

>>721132642
>>721132579
See, this would make sense if your health started depleting the moment you arrive in the zone, but it doesn't. There's a brief period where Hornet can withstand the cold before she starts losing health. When I got there the first time I thought "hm, I wonder if I can advance in this area with the time I'm given" and lo and behold I made it to the first safe spot. That was when I knew you were meant to advance right then and there.

>>721134179
The entire thing is an analogy to a web.

>>721134059
don't worry
you can make your money back through hard work on the treadmill

How do I beat the final boss? Movement is so sudden and she has reach like a beastfly at twice the speed

>>721132882
Team cherry doesn't seem to care if you miss entire chunks of the game as long as you can get to an ending, and you can get the normal ending without double jump

>>721134201
well shit I already had an abortion

>>721134121
I want to say the charged nail attack can be extended if you spam attack as it ends, but that and the other things are about it.

>>721134198
That's more akin to the tool system desu. Imagine if Silk Soar was a tool.

>>721134295
I actually ran for like 10 rosaries on that thing to see if there is any secret, like the pipes being clogged or something.

>>721134248
The first time I got to mount fay was when I got kidnapped into the slab in act 1, so I had nothing to advance mount fay with and I saw but didn't really process the floating rings, so my first assumption was that I needed something to withstand the cold. When I finally remembered I had something to use the rings on I did as you said but I don't blame anyone for getting stuck thinking they need a cold upgrade.

>>721131021 (OP)
So... When you deflect a continuous attack from an enemy your attack rate increases in such a way that you can deflect every hit from that continuous attack, and it looks fucking kino.
Why the fuck didn't you guys told me this?

>>721134246
Is the heal damage justifiable for the risk it puts you in compared to just using your spells

>>721134314
>final boss
which one are we talking about?

>>721134314
True final boss of Act 3? Move less. You play purely reactively in this fight. She has punishes for basically any aggression. Stand still and dash backwards or upwards as needed whenever she does a thing. Your goal is to be spaced just outside her range when she's done because the counter hit is your only safe opportunity. Example: her 1-2-3 combo. Two dashes backwards, or a jump and dash over her head, are safe. Any less and you get hit. Any more and you're too far away to punish. She's all about micro-spacing. Be moving less.

>>721134430
One assumed this happened naturally to you while playing and fighting those big spinny bugs in at basically the start.

Shaman crest is nice but having to be on the ground to heal is annoying

>>721134449
If you can get the heal off correctly, yes. Its equal to 3 full nail hits, or 4 if you equipped the healing+ item, one full nail of extra damage per mask healed.

Is Terminus just useless in Act 3 or is there a way to reconnect it?

>>721134430
Dude I discovered that by accident and then started applying it to other enemies, shit works great and looks awesome.

>>721134430
>your attack rate increases
It does ?

>>721134604
Breakable floor to the left

>>721134430
You just get hit by contact damage because the enemy is probably moving towards you while you're locked in this parrying state. Wothless feature

A bunch of environmental got "fixed" to deal 1 instead of 2 damage. I don't understand how they "missed" this during development, it would be pretty obvious you take 2 damage on hitting shit. Was it actually just nerfed because people complained?

I can’t make work the fucking shotgun, i have 160 glossaries and doesn’t work

Are there more memory lockets and craft metals in act 3?

>>721134723
Ah ok thank you

>>721134785
Ye.

>>721134775
You can only reload on benches, which is stupid.

>>721134715
This was linked last thread
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOxvwZSDgGr

9.5/10 game. Definitely GOTY.

>>721134785
there are 2 lockets locked behind act 3, 18 in total (for 9 extra silk slots). All craftmetal is findable in Act 2.

>>721133767
I'm close to finish a normal game, I already got 100% and I'm missing 2 memento, 1 materium and 2 lore items

>>721134827
Wish you could link Switch 2 and Steam achievements or something.

>>721134715
Yes, you can swipe the needle over and over super fast and it deflects everything, even if the enemie's attack is much faster than your regular attack speed.

>>721134631
I did it by accident when i deflected one of those sweeper guys in Underworks.

>>721134827
I don't believe the people posting speedrun and steel soul achievements

>>721134430
Parrying is really fun and has its uses. I just wish the parry windows was a bit more forgiving. Many masks were lost by attacking one second too late.

>>721134824
He even did that fast parry with the hunter crest ?

>>721134917
Speedrun is easy after you've already played and steel soul players just use fractured mask and save/quit after it procs

>>721134850
Fuck, I can't imagine where that shit is at this point. Hard to believe I've missed anything. I thought I was being diligent looking for secrets.

>>721132341
this game series is very horny

>>721134945
Yeah, I was watching a streamer a few days ago who did it with the reaper crest too, it seems to be regardless of the crest.

>>721133901
Sinners road is KINO and actually a well-designed version of the "fuck you welcome to hell" area. Bilemarsh would be kino too if it didn't serve as the most bullshit runback in history.

>>721134179
>You can get behind that booth later and find what's talking.
Oh shit really? I missed this (and Loam which annoyed me) and haven't seen anyone posting about it here.

>>721134850
>lockets
>silk
Anon.
You can get all the Silk spool frags in Act 2.
Lockets are for unlocking Crest slots.

>>721131848
The moment I saw that fat ass attack, I knew this meme would materialize.

>>721134823
It worked, also, this is beyond stupid mechanic.

I get TC's intention of
>You heal 3 masks per heal so that's why it's more expensive, it's more risk/reward
But 2 damage is so common that it doesn't even feel like 3 heals anymore, it feels like 1 normal 1 heal that you can only do 1/3rd as often. It's not as much risk/reward as just risk++.

>>721134885
>even if the enemie's attack is much faster than your regular attack speed.
So do I have to time it right with their attacks or can I just mash the attack button when I enter parry mode ?

>>721134957
Sorry, I confused lockets and spool fragments, but there are indeed 2 lockets locked behind Act 3, and no spool fragments. There are a total or 20 memory lockets, and in act 3 one is at the top in Bellhart and another is in Verdania.

>>721134923
The sound effect alone is too crisp for it to be easy to do.

>>721134742
All continuous attack that i can remember are done with the enemy standing still.

>>721135019
The fact you can't even reload it with architect's bind relegated it to a meme weapon. I'm sure someone will release an infinite ammo mod for all the "Hornet with a gun" memes but it's not a serious weapon.

>>721134917
Come on man.

>>721133901
if you hated the game then a good area vs a bad area wouldn't have stood out for you anyway.

>>721131468
>Balance
More so than balance, I'd say it's pacing. Act 1 is great, but could do without the 2dmg stuff.
>Rewards
Yup, they should at the very least make the compass permanent, freeing up a slot after you get the first ending. The "final" boss giving you nothing is fucking stupid.
>Movement costing silk
Yeah, the harpoon costing silk is also stupid. Sure is fun hanging around waiting for silk to recharge while exploring...

Contact damage should be removed. It should in itself be an attack like how the Bell Eater worked with its custom arena.

>>721135003
Yeah, yeah, I confused them for a second, because I missed 2 spool fragments from Act 2 as well and had to get them in Act 3.

>>721134974
yeah, you can see what's on the other side coming down from whiteward. i love the storytelling in the underworks.

>>721134765
>I don't understand how they "missed" this during development, it would be pretty obvious you take 2 damage on hitting shit.
As a gamedev lurker, they could have been using some sort of data storage/prefab for the base spike hurtboxes, and accidentally set that to 2 dmg instead of just setting the circular saw hurtboxes(which inherit code/data from the base hurtbox), for example.
Would be honestly fairly easy to miss if it happened near release, given the dev team was likely good enough at the game to not fall in spikes often.

>>721135136
>>721135138
>nerf nerf nerf
Fuck off.

>>721135027
You just have to parry the first hit correctly, then you mash the attack buttom for as long as the enemie's attack lasts and it deflects the rest.

>>721134823
>>721135019
i'd be fine with it being a meme if it was actually broken but it does such shit damage that it's not even fun. they really dropped the ball there.

>>721135101
Actually, the silk gun is great and useful but the glossary shotgun is stupid

>>721134917
you're allowed to be suspicious of Save-and-Quit Soul runs but the speedrun time limits are ridiculously lenient

Heard Hornet was the palace tart in her day. Wild and footloose, and pretty as a mink stole.

>>721131550
>Cool bosses
>Bosses that suck
So basically picrel

>>721132218
It can be fun/kino without being le hard.

>>721132556
>input read
So enemies are not allowed to react to player movement?

>>721134765
It wasn't missed. People complained because it's really really really really annoying. The weakness of micro sized teams like Team Cherry is that it's really easy to get wrapped up in your own autism and lose sight of something the public you're trying to sell the game to just flat out won't tolerate. I'd be willing to bet that Team Cherry's had the same crew of playtesters since Hollow Knight was a kickstarter project, who are basically all indoctrinated cultists with 30,000 hours of playtime in the dev build at this point, and they forgot that this no longer is a good metric for what their customer base thinks is fun. When they were making Hollow Knight they periodically sent tests to the whale backers, who apparently begged them at several points to tone down the autism. Those people were absent for Silksong's development and it shows.

>>721132882
they dont care about playtesting for retards
one of the reasons the game is decent

>>721135481
Yes
They are insects
they should just fucking die

>>721135089
ENTER

Is there a mod that gives her panties?
We could call it Silk Thong

>>721135481
They should not be able to respond to player actions BEFORE the player character has started executing actions, outside of basic pattern recognition)for handling players running away in straight lines or spamming regular melee)

>>721133689
kek
very impressive

I just realized as I was doing the delivery to the mask guy, that the delivery for the pale oil is the only one that was timed.

>>721132343
only act 1 music is bland, act 2 and on is banger after banger. also, all the boss/battle themes are way better than hollow knight's for the most part.

>>721132882
Playtest what?
People who don't suck have no problem finding what's at the top of Mt. Fay out of curiosity.

>>721135503
Interesting.
Admittedly I didn't mind the 2 damage environment as much. The silk draining maggots that eat up a heal on the other hand....

>>721135586
I think he moves foward then swipes his claws while standing still.

>>721135597
It takes a fraction of a second for the player's animation to start. Realistically even humans, who are slow, can react in <0.2s. Can you really tell the difference between a tiny "realistic" delay and instantaneous input reading? Or are you just a retard complaining?

I require more female protags like Hornet.

Is this so hard to ask?

>>721135592
Not that I know of, but It's probably not that hard to do as long as you we have access to the art files and animations. No skirt, only red panties run would be hot.

>>721135586
>>721135703
Oh, nevermind, i mistook it for the flying one.

>>721135628
>Pale oil delivery
The first time that I did this quest and reached the dinning room, I smashed my head against the lever, but still had plenty of time. Then I ran around trying to find the gourmand and reached the far end where you can see him through the fence.
The meat expired, and on the way to kill myself to respawn in Bellhart, I realizer I had completely missed the entrance to the second floor.
I nailed it the next time tho, it was a lot of fun going full flash with the flea juice.

>>721135716

i want one who has dialogue as well written as her desu
i dont know if standards have just fallen when it comes to feMCs but shes on of the best written ones ive seen in fucking ages

>>721135089
>All continuous attack that i can remember are done with the enemy standing still.
most of the slashing attacks are performed as a follow-up to the enemy dashing in your direction.
if you catch the parry when the enemy is not done moving, enjoy his gradual descent towards your hurtbox

>>721134723
That was always there.

>>721135809
But not everyone finds it.

>>721135024
It's also extremely annoying that if you get hit during a bind you lose all your silk, even beyond the amount needed for the bind.

>>721135796
i'm a sucker for protags who match the energy of the people they're talking to. also it's always fun seeing someone pretending to be stoic but acting anything but.

>>721135104
do the Fractured Mask shaker

>>721135898
This is why I never removed the bell. If I'm a retard and get hit during a heal, at least I don't take damage, and it hits everyone in an AoE.

>>721135962
h-hot

>>721131550
Translation:
>cool bosses
good looking setpieces 5 years old can defeat in two tries and feel good about themselves because le atmosphere (first sinner, karmelita)
>bosses that suck
The actual challenges

Hollow Knight had Lost Kin (dream nail version), Soul Tyrant, Grimm, Pure Vessel and arguably the Sisters of Battle. Good looking bosses who also pose a decent challenge. All the stylish encounters in silksong were forgettable wet farts in comparison. I can't fathom anyone getting stuck on karmelita or needing several attempts to defeat first sinner. Even last judge who is literally supposed to be a gatekeeper wasn't up to the challenge

>>721135138
>Every enemy that does contact damage now has an animation they do whenever you take contact damage
There you go :3

>>721135971
there's not a single bossfight in the game that doesn't have a generous healing window after you avoid an attack.
also, you do know that you can heal in midair, right?

>>721135904
>>721135796
I also enjoy how much the game actually takes her status as a demi-god seriously.

The times when she talks to NPCs that jnow she's part wyrm are some of the best in the game. Like it's such a rarity to see a game actually have good writing when tackling the nature of godhood. Especially when I compare it to the "actual" god-themed games.

>>721135628
Is there any special reward for this delivery?

>>721136043
>Wanderer
YDNBTG

>>721136110
Yes, however it's easy to get swarmed in an arena, or misjudge an opening and get hit by a jump attack.

>>721136043
>Wanderer's crest facetanking
>I can't fathom anyone getting stuck on karmelita
you didn't beat the game

>>721136043
You're so cool and edgy anon, and you certainly aren't a fat neet in dire need of a shower.

>>721136043
>Wanderer
You did not beat the game.

>>721134523
The void damage draining my meter when I think I have enough to cross stitch is infuriating

>>721136132
Nah, just rosaries. Neat for flavour though.

>>721136043
lmao

Did i beat the game?

>>721136043
>Wanderer shitters acting uppity again
KEKYPOO

>>721136132
Some dialogue and rosaries
And you'd be going there anyway if you want some mask lore crumbs in Act 3. When Hornet knocks his mask off, she refers to it as him being lucid.

>>721136043
>The actual challenges
>Groal
kek

if I beat the game with solo hunter am I allowed to do a wanderer run now? it looks fun

>>721136342
Yes fellow architect. The tools exist to be used.

>hunter
Completely broken. Stacking damage buff and bullshit diagonal pogo completely breaks most bosses.
>reaper
Insane range and massive extra silk. Almost impossible to die just spamming pogo attack against bosses because you will outrange and parry everything.
>beast
Melts bosses while healing. Pogo is broken once mastered and that's not even counting the iframe bullshit.
>witch
Most retarded attacks in the game, free iframes, easily worth the heal once you figure it out. Triple blue slots, holy shit.
>architect
Lol.
>shaman
OK, it actually has better attacks than the witch. Heal is not a problem if you're not retarded.
>wanderer
Simple honest HK1 attacks, and only one slot for broken orange tools. The only honest and balanced crest in the game.

>>721136342
You did.
Those don't do that much damage anyway and make sense as chip damage while you're gracefully dodging boss moves that you have learned to play around of

>>721135716
I saw someone compare Hornet to Blaze the Cat and I thought that felt pretty accurate. It's a shame that the character writing in Sonic has been inconsistent and all over the place for a while now though.
Maybe it is too much to ask for...

>>721136445
No, you have to do a beast run now.

>>721136468
>witch
>i-frames
Explain.

>>721136521
but that one's SMELLY

>>721136468
>Simple honest HK1 attacks
you forgot the free quickslash wanderer comes with and, for some reason, a chance do crit for 300% dmg

>>721136445
You are reading my mind anon, I was planning exactly that.

We should be able to equip charms in different colored slots in exchange for taking extra damage like in HK

>>721136590
>a chance do crit for 300% dmg
doesn't that come with every crest?

>>721136627
Nope

>>721136468
>Pogo is broken once mastered >counting the iframe bullshit.
Care to explain? I noticed that the pogo seems to hit more than once but i still don't know how to hit consistently and why it would be broken. What i-frames?

Delver's drill is so fun to use.

>>721136518
Blaze in the actual Sonic Rush games was good, even if her character in both is a stock-standard "learn to have friends and not isolate yourself" arc. But she's been poisoned by 06 because the absolute vomit-munching dipshits in Japan for some reason actually enjoy the writing in that godforsaken load of bullcrap.

>>721136627
No.

>>721136609
you have this if you want to take extra damage

i've never met a stronger foe...

>>721136782
wtf is this?

>>721136737
blaze was in 06? the fuck?

>>721136468
Opposite on the pogo. Diagonal pogo is a hindrance not a help in most uses. Like, it is literally 100x easier to pogo Lost Lace's dash with Wanderer than with Hunter because Wanderer's pogo comes out in a nice honest 180 degree arc. Most bosses in the game have practically no answer to you being directly on top of them slapping their forehead because they assume your aerial attacks are coming in from 45 degrees away.

Tell me about the secret forbidden needle tech.

>>721136780
That's not what he said, fatty. Read.

Trying to do the speedrun achievement, just killed Widow in 1 hour and 30 min
Can I still make it?

>>721136836
Plasmium zombie in act 3

>>721136836
the reason lifeblood was taboo in hallownest.

>>721136782
he's unkillable with regular attacks, right?
i took his brother's final quest to suck the lifeblood with the needle he gives you and killed him with it. it was fucking miserable to stand there and charge it while he spams the projectiles

>>721136780
Keeping this on for the rest of my next playthrough because I'm an honest man who knows his limits (I want more challenge but a legit Steel Soul run would be too much)

>>721136908
I killed him with wanderer but it took a while.

>>721136838
She was from the future with Silver

>>721136908
You can kill him if you have high enough DPS but yeah you need the needle.

>>721136782
I threw all my cogwheels and tacks at it and it didn't die so i just left him alone.

>>721136908
He regens so you gotta keep attacking if you don't want your attacks to be worthless

>>721136908
i killed him before i went back to the scientist dude but he was tanky as fuck. on a second run i realized that using the needle was much faster.

>>721136858
Yes, 5 hours is pretty lenient.

>>721136895
I didn't think of visiting him again in act 3, damn

>>721136948
That retcon was retconned. This also isn't the place to talk about this.

>>721136951
>>721137000
Can you get the needle back if you've already turned it in for the monster blood quest?

>>721136858
yeah you're basically on-pace as long as you don't get hardstuck for 10+ attempts anywhere

All these bosses and I'm getting filtered by "Seth". And it takes so long to get to his second phase.

>>721136590
>a chance do crit for 300% dmg
Which is a measly 2%, or 2.1% if you've got the dice equipped. It's literally irrelevant.

Should I even bother? I have to play on >linux if I want to play the game...

>>721136908
I just went apeshit with tools and attacks and it fell over. I had already lost the needle by turning in the last quest so I knew it had to be possible without it.

>>721137104
The virgin weaver queen versus the CHAD shrine guardian

I- is Lace wearing Blackface?

>>721136848
Tap jump and attack simultaneously twice in quick succession with the Architect Crest.

>>721136782
Lmao you're not killing this guy with reaper bro

>>721137214
Its Void face its completely different

>>721137104
Just wait until you beat it and reach your "reward"

>>721137104
he looks like its meant to be an honest dual but instead you should just bait pogos on him after he does dives.

>>721137078
Nuu tells you about it. You didn't even check in on her? That's fucked up.

>>721137251
Post yfw
>Pantheon of the Witch

>>721137124
Wanderer is already the most DPS crest even without the crit, dude

>>721137214
Hornet performing in Flyface on the Citadel's Stage

>>721137135
sub 5 hours is easy

Lace round 3 keeps doing a thrust-thrust-spin jump attack that I don't know how to counter. The jump hit box is so big I cant go under it, but if I dash away, she catches me on the dive.

Whorenet

>>721137251
Double savage beastfly no floor

>>721137251
>>721137286
desu all of the crests seem like a proper pantheon name

>>721137429
>Pantheon of the Beast

cute

>>721137412
I usually dashed away from those with no problem, can even hit her after she lands but she will parry sometimes

>>721137467
>porno legs
>lame anime hair
cringe.

I think I pretty much done everything except Seth's bullshit in fleatopia.
Can anyone think about any cool secrets or things to do in act 3 that one might have missed?

>>721137412
>The jump hit box is so big I cant go under it
go over it
or just move away during her second thrust.

>>721131736
Is it spelled Ehra? Aerah? Eirah?

>>721137412
you jump and hover over the first two thrusts, and then dash immediately when she jumps

>>721137412
>the jump hitbox is so big I can't go under it
yes you can
>if I dash away, she catches me on the dive
try going under it

>>721137491
>>porno legs

>>721131543
She called horny(net) for a reason

I beat Silk and am trying to find how to access the 'true' ending without just looking it up directly but I'm at a loss. I got the entire map cleared out as far as I'm aware outside the area past Bilewater I'm not sure how to get beyond the one NPC with the organ quest found there, with the only sidequests I have available being that one and the Gourmand one I'm unsure on but I feel isn't necessary for progression. Is there something obvious I'm missing?

>>721137251
>Pantheon of the Abyss

>>721137412
start of first dash, double jump and hold hover.
she will dash back and forth, then 95% certainty of doing the jump up.
you drop down and can punish. Easiest punish of all her moves.

>>721137467
Cute, but why wouldn't she have eyes?

>>721137467
Her head isn't round, its the same shape as the mask. Just look at the weaver queen ending

>>721137135
>beat the game (any ending?) in under 5 hours
>100% it in under 30
These cheevos look like actual fucking cancer, holy shit.

How long is act 3 assuming I already explored most of the map?

>>721137494
go back to where you start act 3 and keep going up.
no real reward to be completely honest, but it's a great challenge and i found it quite interesting nonetheless.

>>721137412
She always does the 2 slides so just jump over them and them run to the side. What she does as her third attack is irrelevant, you'll always have a chance to run up to her and land at least one hit after she whiffs

Just beat broodmother and the room started shaking and making clinking noises, can't find any breakable walls or anything though. What the FUCK is it?

https://files.catbox.moe/l3m6r7.mp4

>>721137549
all side quests
collect all fleas

>>721137135
game runs fine on Linux what are you referring to?

>>721137467
>unwound thread
hrrng

>>721137549
you do wish board quests until one shows up on bellharts board.
I'm pretty confident its just about levelling the towns up to unlock it.

>>721137251
>Silk soul mode
It's just the regular game but 30 savage beastflies follow you through the entire game.

>everyone bitching about Last Judge
>beat her in 5 tries
Runback isn't bad outside of the little cone fly right at the start

it just keeps going

>>721137596
3-6 hours?

>>721137549
You don't need to do every wish but you need to do a certain number of them. It'll trigger the songclave guy to tell you how nice you're being to everyone. You probably need to do enough Bellhart quests to get your bellhome. Explore the ducts until you find the lake and interact with it to make Hornet go "the fleas should move here" and then tell the fleas to move there. You should already have double jump but in case you don't get it. That should unlock the quest itself.

>>721137605
more secret than that

>>721135319
>allowed
fuck off with this bullshit. it called cheating

>>721137629
More then likely you feel for one of those loud screams you hear from the void every now and then.

>>721137629
Leave, bench, and come back for a surprise.

>>721137668
zamn, so I just spent like 10 hours slogging through all the wishes for 3 hours...

>>721137652
>>Runback isn't bad outside of the little cone fly right at the start
From the start you can dash, jump, jump to get past that one enemy without having to engage it.

>>721137717
seething so hard he's lost all reading comprehension.

Post yfw
>!!! HUGE FLEA !!!

>>721137712
so you got the memento from up there? can't think of much else then.

>>721137772
I was very scared that we'd end up killing it

>>721137742
Nothing happened, but the shaking stopped now.

wtf do you do about Lose Lace's jumping attacks, I don't see any telegraph

>>721137652
Doing the last judge runback after the patched out the second confly enemy means you didn't beat the game

>>721137494
>Seth's bullshit in fleatopia
Explain further

>>721137605
That's the final location of the "Passing of Age" quest

>>721136342
These things rape lace. It's so unfair

>>721137776
that one had mr. mushroom quest to guide you to it
there must be so many little things to see with super jump but I've never been into doing a second pass of an entire metroidvania map

>>721137652
Last Judge got nerfed because of the seething she caused, along with Moorfly and Savage Beastfly.
The runback isn't that bad once you get the hang of it, if you count the built in shitter-friendly modes known as wanderer and reaper crests

>>721137727
I don't think so, it was a constant, rhythmic sound. You can see it in the cat box link, it sounds like someone mining or something.

>>721137642
>game runs fine on Linux
I know, that's why I have to run it on linux. My problem is that if I run it on windows, cutscenes won't play after the first one. For example, if I use the Bell Beast, the cutscene will only play the 1 time until I restart the game. Additionally, no other cutscene will play either. This doesn't happen in HK though. They did something with SS but somehow it's only affecting me and nobody else.

>>721137809
Are you talking about her uppercut jump?

is witch crest worth the hassle? can I get it on act 3?

>>721137809
she technically does look slightly different, but I never learned it.
I'd stay a decent middle distance and short hop backwards on wind up hoping to predict the triple swing or barely graze under the jump.

>>721137809
keep your eyes on her
look at her on the screen
open your eyes if you have them closed

>>721137767
i got the first ending (with act 3 requirements) with 39 hours, and finished act 3 with 46. if you rush through it and are good you may take like 2-3 hours but i spend a bit trying to find the path forward and also the bosses were kinda tough.

Game's too easy honestly, let's see if this is possible to beat.

I need art of Horny surrounded by big fluffy bugs.

>>721137809
wait for her to move first before attacking her

>>721137908
the fuck

>>721137096
Talk to him again in Act 3 for a new quest

>>721137705
Do you mean the Citadel ducts?

>>721137908
Probably isn't all that much harder as long as you are well versed in her telegraphs. Not having double jump or float would make certain attacks a lot harder to punish though.

>>721137947
I'm guessing it's a mod

>>721137809
telegraph is there, but... for some reason my response to that was always to jump and get hit by it immidiately.
i have no idea how that got baked in in my muscle memory but i ended up beating her while eating her every uppercut

>>721137803
Maybe you have to bench in another zone. But something will eventually be there.
You need it for Hunter journal completion.

Honestly, pogoing with Hunter crest is way more fun than Wanderer/Reaper

>>721137574
WHy are you assuming that's her head without the mask and not just a silhouette?

>>721138024
Its not, that's just cope

>>721137967
Yes.
If you haven't unlocked it through Bilewater yet, you can get to it through the roof right of the garden. Either wall jump or pogo off the bats.

>>721137494
It just remembered we took her silk heart. How is she alive?

>Sherma only stays in the bathhouse one time
What the FUCK I thought it was going to be a comfy respite until I progressed. Why does the Citadel have a fancy free spa anyway?

>>721137917
Awoo!

>>721138024
TRVE

>>721138046
imagine the smell

So um, Bilewater confirms that bugs poop right?
Does Hornet also poop? This is important

>>721138050
what is there to cope with, you're not stuck with the hunter crest so you can switch it out if you don't like it.

>>721137652
They got rid of a fly and nerfed the environmental damage of the sandworms down to 1 from 2.
I still didn't have much of a problem with Last Judge even before the nerfs though. Mastering the runback was fun, and Last Judge as a boss was really fun as well.

>>721137629
The clinking is your tacks

>>721138119
Hornet is a Pale Being. She does not need to eat. Therefore, she does not poop.

>>721138107
Good start, but I need BIGGER!!

>>721138101
iirc it's implied that the showers next to the spa are for common people and the spa is for upper caste bugs

>>721138050
>t. wanderer shitter

The extent to which the game opens up when you get Clawline is so extreme its insane how late you actually get it.

>>721137846
You know those flea challenges you can do in fleatopia? Seth eventually goes there and posts his scores. They're well into the 90s.

>>721137839
>>721137854
I was not aware there was a third one along the whole path. I beat Moorfly and 2nd beast fly before the update at least. Moorfly was super easy, dunno why it was nerfed.

When did we stop calling them higher beings?

>>721138097
You see all those clothes? It's silk. It works like a battery. Hornet would only need to give her more silk when she starts getting naked.

>>721138154
She does not need to eat often*
Therefore, she does not poop often*

makes all the difference

>>721138156
Beeg

>>721138150
Hahaha holy shit, I'm rarted. Thanks anon.

>>721138218
That's more like it! You're a good man, anon. I don't care what they say.

>>721138250
Fuck Lace, Marry Hornet, Kill Phantom

Just beat first sinner, 10/10 kino fight Does any boss top her, or is that the peak?

>>721137659
it's finally over

everytime someone posts a rage clip of their gameplay to prove how this game is too hard it's always the most dogshit gameplay i've ever seen. fuck both savage beastfly battles but sometimes you just suck man.

Is magnetic dice really the only good yellow tool for Shaman crest?

>>721138250
>We couldn't save Phantom
i cry everytime

Groal is the most vile thing in this entire game. Thank god that's over with.

>>721138273
I don't care what anyone says, I love these dumb little mother fuckers. And they don't get eaten or killed at the end of the game so that makes them automatically better than grubs.

>>721137494
Styx's home
Talk to Seamstress while wearing the pin

>>721138305
>standing on rightmost platforms with boss directly above him
>leftmost platform completely safe
>jumps to the right
>doesn't dash
>doesn't use clawline

The game is way easier if you play keyboard + mouse

If Lace is the one who breaks us out of the cage at the start of the game with her butterflies, why does she spend the rest of the game trying to kill us?

>>721137851
>These things rape lace.
I was going to make a joke about that not being an image of me, but I'd never ever rape Lace...

>>721138341
>Learned immediately after beating him that you can cheese him by sitting in the corner
EVEN AFTER DEATH THIS FUCKER IS SCREWING ME OVER. ONE LAST LAUGH FOR GROAL, I GUESS. FUCK YOU.

>>721137865
I mean if you've already got the cursed baby then it's just about talking to a few NPCs, you can get the crest in like 5~ minutes after you become cursed.
The real problem is if you want to get the secret ending, you can only get it during act 2 and you have to be cursed.

>>721138397
she's a bratty MSGK that needs correction

>>721138341
I honestly loved this fight once I FINALLY found the groove for it. Still hated the runback though, even with the secret bench. Really wish I explored Putrefied Ducts before going through Bilewater.

>>721138305
When does this fight occur btw? Im already into Act 2

>>721138397
All Lace want to do is piss off her mom

>>721138250
Ok, what even is the phantom?

>>721138072
Oh that place? I wasn't sure how to progress through there since I didn't really see an opening but I'll try the latter, thanks.

>>721138440
It's a quest boss

>>721138404
You can also throw bombs in his mouth during his suck attack.

>>721138397
Because hornet can't take a hint and just leave

What's the best crest for flea juggle and bounce? Reaper or shaman with longclaw?

>>721138457
Lace, but failed.

>>721137859
damn that's bizarre sorry that's happening to you bro, but you should be fully moved over to Linux at this point if you've been using it for more than a month

>>721138457
Lace's sibling, basically

>>721132218
Same reason people like mantis fight, it's rhythmic dodging that just feels good. A boss doesn't have to bust your balls to be fun.

>>721138397
She freed you so GMS doesn't get her hands on you. You decided you wanna bitchslap GMS for kidnapping you so Lace decides that it's easier to kill you since you didn't run away as she probably expected you to.

>>721138404
I beat him by constantly getting eaten by him, slashing him from the inside and healing all the damage once he spit me out. Pretty funny.

>>721137508
I used google translate and tried testing how to get it pronounced the same way Hornet says it
and according to google translate, 'Aae ruh' is how it's spelled

>>721138397
my understanding is: she attacked the convoy so Hornet would die on the fall, because she's afraid of being replaced. GMS sends her minions to bring her weaver descendants and Lace sabotages it on the way back, killing the weavers, but Hornet survived.

>>721138457
Same type of being as Lace, just inferior and doomed to slowly fade away even with a supply of Silk

>>721138553
I wonder how many other moments I missed by being too good

>>721138375
Wdym by home? I already gave him the egg on act 3, and I immediately thought to talk to her with the pin also.

>>721138594
ENF sequence in the Slab?

Punished Trobbio is the most fun boss in the game.

>>721138503
>juggle
hunter
>bounce
reaper
>attack
wanderer but anything really

>>721138654
no I got caught :(

>>721137248
you're right, one must fight infection with infection

>>721138673
I love how that nigga stands up when you move offscreen and when you return he quickly drops and plays dead again

>>721138673
>If you wait he pops out to see if your there
He's so cool. Can't wait for his kino Pantheon fight

>>721138457
Lace but depressed

>>721138626
You can superjump into this house. It doesn't have much, but play the needle to get a hint about his personality.

>>721131021 (OP)
>get angry
>slap on the double damage thing
>she hits like a fucking truck anyway
>actually kick her ass while she kicks mine
>shoot her to death for the last 2 hits
Fuck this game.

>>721138439
>Really wish I explored Putrefied Ducts before going through Bilewater.
I'm glad that i just went 'this is bullshit' and left to explore other areas.

>>721138673
His bombs are not fun at all

I wonder if there's any kind of connection between Unn and Moss Grotto/Mosshome.

>>721138654
She doesn't get embarrassed.

>>721138810
His bombs are like mid level projectiles compared to a lot of other shit in the game desu.

>>721138919
you just can't tell because of the mask. The aggressive head snap was just the tsundere reaction.

>>721138818
There might be between Uun and Nuu

>>721138818
my ancestor :)

>>721138798
I don't understand the people who insisted on clearing it with one needle upgrade, the shit in there must have taken 12 hits each to kill. And then they bitch and whine about how it was too hard. kek

>>721138728
Based witchchad.

I hate this game but I keep playing it. I'm in Act 2. I've killed broodmother, lava fly beast, the high halls gauntlet, knocked out 2/3 of the big melodies or whatever you're supposed to collect... this game fucking blows. I'm completing it out of spite. So so so so so much fucking content in this piece of shit game is just padding and could be cut. Stupid Australian bastards. Fuck your pizza delivery service, guess I'm never getting my pin fully upgraded.

>>721138941
They are basically a random attack that you might or might not get hit by (2 masks of damage).
There's no fun in that even if it's not the most annoying thing in the game

>>721137467
holy shit.... she would look just like Grand Mother Silk! holy fuck I never thought of that and it makes sense why her mask is shaped like that

>>721139031
I mean if you hate the timed delicate flower segment that much, just get the mod..
that's what I did, I am pathologically allergic to time limits

>>721138818
>>721138993
This needs to be a picture.

Is Silksong after base HK ending or the Godhome ending? Or is it not really related either way?

>>721139113
I'm going to play it the way the devs intended so I can shit on it with greater veracity.

>>721139181
They kinda tease both in the ending so they effectively made it ambiguous which one of the HK endings is canon

>>721139181
Godhome
In the True Ending you can see the Knight save Hornet from the Abyss while being the Shade Lord

Was the ending mid or kino?

What were these tablets for?
I assumed it was relevant for some puzzle I'd encounter later so I screenshotted it but alas.
In the end I have no idea what they imply and why they had dedicated rooms for them

>>721139316
Kino if you play the first game.

>>721139316
>Implies possible tentacle incest with Hornet and her GF
it's kino
Also, just realized, in a way Hornet and Lace are kinda related. GMS is Hornets adopted grandma.

>>721139369
Lore nigga

>>721139316
Felt a bit to silly, no idea why we even got the flower if he showed up

>>721139316
It doesn't get more kino than that, if we're being honest

>>721139031
Use this route. Thank me later. when you beat it easily.
>>721139316
Kino because it rewards me for my p5 cheevo.

>>721131468
Didn't read lol

>>721139398
I understand that now. But what do they say? It's unintelligible

>>721139316
boss was fucking incredible, but i wish we got a wholly new boss afterwards. i would've been a bit disappointed too if the true ending in HK was against pure vessel instead of radiance even though pure vessel is my favorite boss in HK. so while i loved it, just a hair disappointed in that regard.

also wish we could've seen the aftermath of hornet saving pharloom.
but seeing the knight had me making retarded faces IRL i couldn't believe what i was seeing, so KINO.

>>721139316
would it be kino if... the knight's shade left Lace behind?

>>721139316
absolutely kino

>>721139181
>>721139286
seems like it was clearly the regular true ending, no?

>>721139369
Lore.
A "beat" is 4 of something.
So this basically boils down to "when the great bell tolls 7, send 30 sets of 16 Smokerocks, 32 Sweetsmelt, and a Mark of fealty.
To where? Dunno. Probably the Citadel.

>>721139487
It's how much thread they have to send each harvest.

>finish the game
>begin listening to the soundtrack
>every song is fucking incredible audiokino of the highest order
>don't recognize a single track

>>721139515
>also wish we could've seen the aftermath of hornet saving pharloom.
That's the DLC

>>721139487
Greymoor was built to catch, cut, clean and spool silk that fell off from the citadel. Hence the enemies there fight with tools.

>>721139530
i mean, it literally flashes as the shade lord for a second which is exclusive to PoH ending.

>choked at Pure Vessel AGAIN
I just want to unlock the Absolute Radiance training room...

>>721139380
I figured Grand Mother Silk was a play on words in that she is both the Grand Mother of Silk/Weavers and also Hornet's literal grandmother

>>721139181
Either Dream no More or Embrace the Void could be canon.

>>721139554
There's something weird going on. I can barelly hear the music in this game, even if it's 2 points above the other volumes.

>>721139562
>>721139562
>>721139562

>>721139421
Why do people bitch about going left?
It's so fucking easy.
>Left all the way to the first vertical shaft just before the Stagway
>Left and up through Blaster (you have tons of mobility now, so it's a non-issue)
>You have double-jump so the Grand Gate scales are nothing
>Then you just route up a bit more on the left side, then straight right, up just a bit, then into the hall

>>721139530
i mean, it literally flashes as the shade lord for a second which is exclusive to PoH ending.

(forgot my spoiler image oops)

>>721139546
>>721139547
Ok that makes sense now. Being an ESL is a struggle

>>721139519
No that would be weird after the cutscene where you save her. also the cutscene with hornet looking around parallels with the dream no more cutscene

>>721138765
Just did but I still don't get it.
Also his Steel Soul replacement is creepy. Looks similar to one of the bodies in his home. Maybe there'll be more to see when I get to Act 3 there.

>>721138195
Pale beings are just higher beings who use soul. Maskmaker and I think the snail guys don't really differentiate them on behaviors

>>721139546
Clearly the citadel. Even in the "good days" the average citadel bug was essentially a slave driven to reclaim silk dregs for use by the upper church castes. That's what these tablets reference. I don't think they're recent; we come to Pharloom while it's already in its dying days.

>>721138195
I think this is just a really inconsequential retcon to help distinguish them from the abyss more clearly. Whether the abyss itself constitutes a higher being is debatable though.

>>721139554
>didn't bring the bench song back
missed opportunity

are there any shortcuts in mount fay or do I have to start all over next to shakra?

>>721140534
There is one. It's pretty obvious so you probably didn't reach it yet.

>>721139487
greymoor actually used to be vast fields of farmland.

>>721139316
I literally just beat the game and said kino out loud when I saw it.

>>721139653
most people do it long before getting double jump

>>721138553
lol same. I didn't even mean to. I just suck and kept getting eaten.

>>721141371
Why? You can't get the pickled muckmaggot without double jump anyway.

>>721141512
Someone playing for the first time has no way of knowing that