Thread 721132945

Can it run Crysis?

>>721132945 (OP)
it can run borderlands 4 at a steady 60fps

>>721132945 (OP)
all this shit just to make AI slop good enough to replace 1 human artist

remember when Crysis was the benchmark for PCs because of how good it looked on max settings, as opposed to nowadays where games are benchmarks because of how badly they're made?

>>721132945 (OP)
Just in time for AI to get banned I hope

>>721132945 (OP)
All that shit and what for exactly

>>721133203

the chat bot gets slightly better at flattery

>>721133057
>replace 1 human artist
this is easily replacing 10,000 people, and it don't eat, don't sleep, dont get vacations, or promotions, doesn't complain when told to push agendas, doesn't even get paid, LEGAL SLAVERY.

>>721132945 (OP)
>"but anon, think about the planet! We're doing so much by driving EVs and using paper straws!"
>meanwhile this
Environmentalism is a fucking scam.

>>721132945 (OP)
But can it beat DOOM?

>>721133057
It's actually awe-inspiring that techbros are fruitlessly spending trillions a year to imitate what comes naturally and effortlessly in the form of a divine gift to certain individuals. It's almost mythologically tragic, fables will be written about their folly thousands of years in the future.

>>721132945 (OP)
This is the baseline consumer grade hardware per Randy.

>>721133479
Always was

>>721133479
The demoralization rituals WILL continue.

>>721133479
i'd say we fuck up the planet and start to pollute as much as pajeets, let kikes take the shithole of planet created from that

>>721133406
it also can't produce anything new, only imitations of previously existing stuff

>>721132945 (OP)
Another ai that's gonna be neutered and brainwashed to please investors and american prudes. I'm on the verge of my seat whoohoo.

>>721133254
>>721133203
So the LLM can say "I'm sorry I cant help with that request" in cursive.

>>721133154
banned by who? The Trump administration loves AI slop.

>>721133057
>AI = making hentai pictures
Nah dude, its the AI that's replacing people's jobs one by one.
Like half a million jobs gone just this year.
Its only going to get worse as it replaces everything from burger flippers, customer service, call centres, basically anything that isnt digging holes or driving trucks.

I work in corporate and literally all of corporate is freaking the fuck out behind the scenes cuz they know that in 5 years none of them will have jobs anymore.
Cuz why pay a bunch of 'do nothings' to sit at a desk and fill in spreadsheets when an AI can do it faster and for free?

>>721132945 (OP)
You ever think this whole AI shit is just being pushed to sell nvidia cards?

>>721133553
All that image/audio gen stuff is just a side project btw. Not even like 1% of the comoute they throw at llms

>>721133057
In Microsoft's case, they are actually using it for real things.

>>721134073
Real things that are full of errors and dreams.

>>721132945 (OP)
How are they going to upgrade it?

>>721134029
I do wonder what the end goal is, do these guys realize that if no one can afford to buy the shit because no one can find a job, then there's no business to be made?
they're basically accelerating the painful phase between human labor and full AI automation post-scarcity utopia

>>721134208

it's for your own good, don't forget to eat the bugs in the meantime

>>721132945 (OP)
>AI bubble is gonna burst any minute no-ACK

>>721133057
AI is more than porn my man
They're going to help companies replace tens of thousands of employees, which is sorely needed now that the H1B dream is dead.

In hindsight, the Cold War was a mistake; nuclear armageddon is vastly preferable to the AI hell we are speeding towards.

>>721134048
initially perhaps, but all the major tech companies have their own in house ai chips underway to get out from nvidia's thumb. google started quite some time ago and is now on their own 6th gen chips.

Nvidia is just going to absorb Intel in a few years huh

>>721132945 (OP)
All this so windows 11 can blue screen.. wow

>>721133751
We need a way off planet first so we can laugh at them afterwards. As the saying goes, the best revenge is living well.

>>721134073
>>721133553
it's afraid

>>721134789
>a way off planet
and go where?

>>721132945 (OP)
>makes AI data center
>energy companies now start charging everyone else more to offset the energy usage of the stupid AI

these places should require their own power plants.

>>721133203
Now it won't be an indian telemarketer calling your phone, but rather an AI programed to sound Indian.

>>721133479
Environmentalism is unironically a communist psyop that is still harming western countries, we would've been energy sufficient by now if it weren't for it and most modern conflicts since the 90s wouldn't have happened.

>>721134073
>In Microsoft's case, they are actually using it for real things.
It will end up like their game developers in 10 years time.

>>721134053
Traditionally yeah huge oligarchs and corporations will spend impossible amounts of money trying to get the most accurate and advanced fortune-teller, think back to all those CIA experiments on psychics that were all just stage-magicians

>>721132945 (OP)
I can train AI on my home computer, why do these retards need a trillion dollar data center to do it?

>>721133553
>fables will be written about their folly thousands of years in the future.
... yeah, written by AI.

>>721133203
they want to create god.

>>721134073
They aren't using it for real things, they're forcing adoption among their own workforce and crippling their already crippled workflow in the name of selling scrying services to Israel. It's actually poised to eat them alive (as a whole company, not just a business sector or one branch) from the inside.

>>721132945 (OP)
>cant win a game of chess against a fag who rage quits to pajeets
WEW

>>721132945 (OP)
>me burning car tires in the woods is a "problem" meanwhile globohomo corps can do this while offloading the cost onto you and burdening the states electrical production so they can fleece retarded millionaires and billionaires of their wealth

>>721134208
>do these guys realize that if no one can afford to buy the shit because no one can find a job, then there's no business to be made?
Manual labor. AI can't build buildings, pave the street, lay concrete, build fences, repair houses, do electrical work, or landscape

>>721135173
Imagine them getting those to run on renewables

>>721135401
>still on your electrical grid
>still offloading the costs of production onto you

>>721134935
>>721133479
>Anything I don't like is communism.
God forbid we save the planet and create jobs for people and not clankers who are obedient to the real threat, the billionaires.

>>721134029
>Its only going to get worse as it replaces everything from burger flippers, customer service, call centres, basically anything that isnt digging holes or driving trucks.
Digging holes and driving trucks is what AI is already doing. Burger flipping, customer service, and value-producing conversations are what it consistently fails at.

>I work in corporate and literally all of corporate is freaking the fuck out behind the scenes cuz they know that in 5 years none of them will have jobs
If your job can be done by stringing words together based on probability, then you're not being replaced so much as found out. Why even hire the AI to do that? Just consolidate the idiom slinging to another human employee or write an FAQ.

>>721134359
>They're going to help companies replace tens of thousands of employees
AI is capable of talking like a clueless normie. That's it. The people it can replace have their jobs for reasons other than generating value for the company. The CEO's nephew is not losing his make-work job. The office slut is not losing her make-work job. AI is not going to replace Indian nepo-hires. It's a bubble.

AI is a huge boon to fetishit pornographers, small-team dev studios, and a few others. As a research tool, it can be invaluable for autistically proving shit our ancestors knew for thousands of years. These lessons will not be learned, because inconvenient outputs will be GIGO'd to satisfy the times. At most, these datacenters will identify and kill enemies of the state.

>>721132945 (OP)
What about housing the homeless instead?

>>721135157
Well they're doing a pretty fucking awful job kek

>>721135579
>As a research tool, it can be invaluable for autistically proving shit our ancestors knew for thousands of years
???
AI is fucking GARBAGE for research bro. It's constantly making shit up and google is always fucking with search results so you can't find what you're looking for either.

>>721135541
If you really cared about the environment, people's living standarts and peace on Earth you would support nuclear energy, the fact that every environmentalist is staunchly opposed to it, betrays their true intentions.

>>721135541
the planet has never needed saving, the damage we do to earth only accelerates our own demise and the planet will go right back to how it was a million years ago.

>>721135257
Automation excels at well defined tasks. LLMs can do anything they can watch a human do enough to cover the edge cases. An AI provided fire control for Israel's carpet bombing of Gaza, for example, but would have done a terrible job in a scenario where ROE applies. What AI is terrible at is producing value in an unsupervised role. If you can articulate why you need an employee, their job might be automatable but an AI won't be able to do it.

>>721134208
There is no end goal. Investoids don't think of anything beyond the next quarter. You think not being able to conceptualize an apple is a low IQ thing, but it's actually evenly distributed across all economic classes.

>>721132945 (OP)
All this just to run Borderlands 4? Damn...

>>721135734
I'll never understand nuclear power shills, unless you're volunteering to have the nuclear waste buried in your basement.

>companies can generate money without circulating it back through wages
Explain how this won't lead to societal collapse.

>>721135940
fucking retarded dumb nigger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayLxB9fV2y4

>Invest billions upon billions into designing computer components and data systems that correct errors, correctly preserve data and never introduce variables or random elements into important calculations and data storage
>Introduce what's essentially a random number generator into the equation because it's new, hip and cool and somebody told you that it's the next big thing and you're going to fall behind and die if you don't

Boy I sure do love the future

>>721133762
No different than our own conscious creativity being limited by pre-existing knowledge used to generate 'new' ideas, other than this time having the entire Internet's worth of information to work with. And this is even before neural-net AI has been perfected.

>>721135940
Nuclear is the only backbone that will meet our demands, and the world agreed on this decades ago with the creation of ITER.

>>721135945
If you understand that the rich invest to make you poorer more than them richer, it's perfectly logical.

>>721135972
>Nuclear fag exposes he's not willing to deal with the cons of nuclear power, completely mitigating its purpose.

>>721136089
Then you'll have no problem housing all the nuclear waste at your place.

>>721133057
>Sam Altman talking about needing to build a Dyson sphere to power an LLM
Without a real breakthrough AI is over

>>721136006
Their own fault for giving an experimental software limitless control over their database instead of being the one under control.

>>721135850
>You think not being able to conceptualize an apple is a low IQ thing
That has nothing to do with IQ.

>>721136136
You are stupid, the waste problem is not meaningful, you can create facilities to store it, there's plenty of empty desert and mountains for that, the earth is gigantic enough, it's not a real issue, it's made up.
Meanwhile Russia and China builds new reactors.
If it weren't for our energy dependency on Russia and the middle east, there would be much less violent conflicts overrall, makes you wonder who funds the retarded self-harming ideology you spouse.

>>721133203
it's tech weirdos building the citizen monitoring system. They can't do anything smart or useful with it. Watch the Mark Zuckerberg ai glasses failure from the other day. The whole system fucks up trying to provide a simple recipe. If they wanted to do something useful they'd make google search not shit anymore. That's how it used to work, if you wanted something like that you just googled it on your ipad.

>>721136006
surprisingly only Apple called everyone out on this

>>721136279
>the waste problem is not meaningful, you can create facilities to store it, there's plenty of empty desert and mountains for that,
If it's not 'meaningful', you'll have no issue storing all the waste in your town, specifically near you.
Why are you fighting against that? When clearly nuclear waste is 'not meaningful' in your words?

>>721136391
You are presenting a dishonest argument, it would be like saying that people should put wind turbines in their backyard instead of the most appropriate places.

>>721136391
>you don't want to build a dam in your backyard, guess dams are not so good after all
this is how you sound

>>721135832
LLMs hallucinate and forget context all the time an LLM cannot be trusted to do anything by itself and needs constant supervision by someone who understands the ins and outs of the job.

>>721135157
What are they the fucking dwemer? Will they disappear from earth when they do also?

>>721133479
>>721132945 (OP)
Environmentalism has always been a scam because it's rich people and corporations that have private jets and factories that produce lifetimes of carbon footprints yet they want us to drive the shitty evs that try to charge you monthly subscriptions for the built in seatwarmers

>>721132945 (OP)
Is not this basically a skynet/Shodan scenario?

>>721135157
Their only god is money.

>>721136391
Why do you keep insisting that nuclear waste be stored in *your* backyard? Unlike the exhaust from coal or oil, nuclear waste is all accounted for, controllable and stable. You can put all of it on a truck or train and transport it anywhere you like.

>>721135541
Name one thing I dislike that isn't communism, if you're so smart.

>>721135157
Vedal already beat them to it

>>721136279
This is what everyone says until a whole region of their county/country is completely unusable for multiple generations.

>>721135541
communism is the billionaire endgame anon
ask anyone that's actually lived in a communist country
there's no community, just a bureaucratic central government apparatus hoarding luxury for the party™

>>721134048
No, I'm not retarded and have at least a basic understanding of how humans and money work.

>>721136647
no we aren't remotely close to an actual AI (AGI) it's still a myth

>>721135945
There being more stuff means that there will be more stuff.
Poverty is a function of having not enough stuff. There being more stuff directly fixes having not enough stuff.

Might get a bit silly in the short-term, but there is no reason for it not to be a blessing long term. Assuming that shit starts to actually work, of course.

>>721133406
>doesn't complain
Meanwhile Gemini...

>>721136476
>>721136538
>>721136660
It's not dishonest, if you're so hellbent on nuclear power, you get to be the one who shoulders the burden of it. Why should other people be forced to deal with the waste your system creates?
Clearly the fact you want to pass the buck is proof there are flaws in your system you're covering up.

>>721136673
Jackie Chan

>>721136984
There are already solutions for how the waste can be dealt with in a rational logical way like I presented already, you make no sense, there's no buck to pass.

>>721135940
coal plants release more radioactive material (as waste, we just don't call it radioactive waste) in a year and it goes directly into the atmosphere instead of containment.
not to mention all the regular pollution.

modern nuclear plants produce a minute mount of waste, and what can't be reprocessed (which is mostly low-risk stuff like casing/handling materials, not fuel) can be stored in concrete or whatever. there isn't much of it, and we know where it is. generally on-site in facilities that would take hundreds of years to fill (by which time the older stuff might be inert even if we don't use it for something else in the meantime)

if you actually care about the environment, nuclear is top-tier

>>721132945 (OP)
Literally who asked for this or wants this?

>>721132945 (OP)
Is Crysis even THE benchmark game nowadays?

>>721133406
it has the memory of a goldfish, doesn't reespond to incentives and will just make stuff up

>>721134208
>I do wonder what the end goal is
Make number go higher.
Its literally all it is.
Why pay a few thousand office Karens $80-120k/year each to do practically nothing when they can just lay them off and replace them with ChatGPT?

>>721135945
UBI is one emergency solution, but new types of goods and services will be developed that can be traded for currency, scarcity also comes from the subjective value humans asign to things, there will always be a limited supplies of beach facing properties for stance.
Maybe we will have an economy based on likes, I don't know, the market finds a way.

>>721137338
No, it's Cyberpunk with pathtracing

>>721135579
nah hole digging is still done by picrels in hiviz and truck driving cant be done by an AI, at least for a few decades.
richfag shit like Teslas can only drive in the city, cant handle rough roads, has no range (battery technology hasnt really improved in 15 years) and cant be trusted with a 30-60 wheeler.
Also its an offense to not be in control of your motor vehicle in most states/countries, so self-driving cars arent even a thing and/or its illegal to let your car's AI 'drive for you'.

>>721137163
>There's already a solution
>'Just have other people who are not me, deal with the waste.'
No

>>721137256
>This really shitty power source is much worse
>So that justifies what I want.
Again, if you want to handle having the waste stored in your town given you're so confident in how low risk it is, more power to you. But passing the buck to others shows you aren't confident.

By the way, this one facility will emit more carbon than the entire country of Switzerland.

>>721132945 (OP)
it would be so funny if a tornado raped this place and all that money goes down the drain

>>721137516
>'Just have other people who are not me, deal with the waste.'
What do you mean? Do I have to be the one driving the waste truck to the storage site?
I'd do it if the pay is alright I guess.

>>721132945 (OP)
The only worthwhile use for AI I've seen is being able to ERP without needing someone else. What's the point of this shit? Why are they investing so much money on this garbage? Are they THAT desperate to drop humans so they don't have to pay them anymore?

>>721137597
The nuclear waste storage site is going to be your town, ideally next to you.
it's only fair, if you really think nuclear waste is safe.

>>721137616
If you can code, what Claude Opus and GPT 5 can do will blow your mind.

>>721133479
You think environmentalists are cool with this?

>>721133479
>Environmentalism

>>721136717
So capitalism's end game is just the considerations of wealth and power. That's not a revelation.

>>721135945
This is what I've been saying for years and people still say "AI is only used for making anime titties who cares lmao".
First ones are going to be any sort of "talk to someone" jobs, which is like half of them.
Ads are already all AI, music is already AI, I reckon we're a year out from a movie in the cinemas being AI, accountants, consultants, office workers etc are all being laid off cuz AI does it for practically free, doesnt take breaks, can work 24/7, doesnt need to be paid, doesnt need Annual Leave, Long Service Leave, Insurance or a Retirement fund.

>>721135940
i get that /v/ is 95% dumb brownoids but holy shit

>>721137910
>I reckon we're a year out from a movie in the cinemas being AI
We're already there, look up the Wizard of Oz at Sphere

>>721137256
>if you actually care about the environment, nuclear is top-tier

Yeah in the hope that it melts down and kills all the humans around it, that would be good for the environment.

>>721137516
>>721137664
You don't realize how efficient nuclear power plants are, you don't need one in every city for starters, a much much less than that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_France#Environmental_impact

>>721137910
It's so fucking bleak that creative jobs are going extinct. Physical labor isn't the end all be all job for literally everyone.

>>721136606
We all will, unless we're in another dimension.

>>721138279
>You don't realize how efficient nuclear power plants are, you don't need one in every city for starters, a much much less than that.
You will when everyone is using nuclear power

>>721137994
yes that would also be a benefit, unfortunately we don't really build them that way anymore

melting down just means literally what it sounds like, the core falling out its own ass due to overheating.
usually by that point shit is really fucked so there's also catastrophic venting and core exposure like in chernobyl, which was pretty suboptimal, so avoiding all these things tends to be a design goal

venting at worst (this is to avoid shit exploding in a worst case scenario), but there shouldn't be anlything too serious in whatever loop gets vented unless something else has happened.
unless there's a simultaneous earthquake/flooding/asteroid impact/ghost attack it's pretty unusual now.

>>721138279
You're falsely implying I said we need one for every town, I'm just saying you get to live with all the waste the plants create if you're that confident in how secure and safe it is.

>>721136984
Why should I be forced to breathe in the toxic, radioactive waste that burning coal and oil produces?

>>721132945 (OP)
But you have to conserve power, little slave

>>721138671
Your argument is such a non sequitur I can't take it seriously, it seems that you think I have to sleep hugging a barrel of nuclear waste instead of having it stored in a facility built for that in a location based on logistic concerns and other factors beyond my mere existence as an individual.

>>721137616
erp and programming. writing bullshit emails and other tedious stuff

I understand where the job-killer hate comes from, as well as the hate on the AIjeets spamming their shit everywhere, but I don't know how people can't see how good it can be if you use it yourself for yourself.
Feels like a big part of haters never tried a top tier model, or are too bad at giving it clear instructions.

>>721138703
>>721138831
It's not, one of the big issues with nuclear power is the waste, and you want to pass the buck onto others showing inherent selfishness on your part.
If you're actually pro nuclear power, you'd have no problem also harboring the nuclear waste too.
But given you aren't, that exposes a fundimentla flaw with nuclear power.
Also we should have been working off getting coal and oil decades ago.

>>721138867
As long as you're on their servers you're cattle

>>721133203
>why do need all this infrastructure for services we use anyway?
You probably think your food originates in the grocery store.

>>721139026
You will never be we

>>721137516
>Again, if you want to handle having the waste stored in your town given you're so confident in how low risk it is, more power to you.
Well, I'm fine with it. You're just a coward.
But they tend not to build them near other shit for several reasons. Being in a town is worse for the plant than the plant is for the town.

>This really shitty power source is much worse
Yes and that's both the alternative we have and the source of political lobbies who have implanted this irrational fear in you.
If you want to invent a non-nuclear new power source that's cleaner and scales better than coal, feel free. I won't stop you.

Wind and solar are great (and the material/pollution issues with solar could be improved with continued investment just like they were with nuclear), but they take a ridiculous amount of real estate just to meet current needs--and a lot of storage to smooth the output--without generating any surplus for future use.
They're good as part of a combined strategy with nuclear, but unless you're somewhere with a lot of space and no people, in a wind belt region like Tasmania, it's hard to build now and whatever yo build won't scale ever, only decay.

>>721139012
And as long as you're local you're getting shit outputs. Images are fine, but using local LLM is just plain retarded. wow anthropic gets my code and my vanilla+ slop, how horrible. and that is if OR ever manages to link my crypto to my name

>>721134029
AI can't do anything beyond basic tasks on its own. It needs someone to give it directive to fill out sheets and on how to connect formulas and different documents for excel sheets and other similar programs. There is also over 7 million job openings right now, so I don't think anyone is all that worried. That data center alone could bring in tens of thousands on its own on-site, with thousands more able to work remotely. That's how my company runs its own on-site facilities, it expands via selling more hardware to be maintained on-site and hires a remote based team on top of that.

>>721139143
>Well, I'm fine with it. You're just a coward.
If you're fine with nuclear waste storage being housed in your town, more power to you. Shows you have slightly more conviction than the rest of the shills here.

>>721139240
Can you name any examples of nuclear fuel storage facilities being built inside towns?

>>721133057
>artist

>>721139240
This is embarrassing

>>721133067
remember when Crysis was an unoptimized single threaded piece of shit? I do.

>>721139278
That's irrelevant, the point of you living with nuclear waste is to prove you're confident in your own system. The fact that all the other shills refused to do that shows one of the fundamental flaws with nuclear power, which is nuclear waste where the buck is passed onto everyone else but you.

Also the random bot posts shows I've stuck a nerve on this.

>>721138279
>Claude Opus
>France still hasn't built a facility to store it's long term high radioactivity waste
delightful

>>721139408
How could something that never happens be relevant?
Would you eat a lump of coal?

mmmm I wonder what happened with the last one.

>>721134029
>Nah dude, its the AI that's replacing people's jobs one by one.
Its the AI that is pumping out the useless reports and documents that never got read in the first place.
We automated away half the workforce. But people needed to get paid to be able to house themselves, so we invented pointless busy work to keep them employed. Now we're building machines to automate the pointless busy work. What a time to be alive. What's next?

>>721139408
>say dumb shit
>people react
>see I struck a nerve
so you are baiting

>>721133057
I work at microsoft directly supporting the AI training infrastructure. It has nothing to do with pictures retard, it has to do with accelerating meetings notes, video captioning, writing code, analysing reports, optimizing processes, etc. Just today I used AI to make scripts to automate the creation of release notes for the hundred internal releases my team has no notes for.

>trillions invested in AI
>it uses a shitload of power and water
>EVERY PLACE that has one of those data centers sees the price of energy and water skyrocket(only for normal people of course)
I hate this world

>>721132945 (OP)
for what purpose?

>>721139173
>wow anthropic gets my code and my vanilla+ slop, how horrible
Its not even about oh no muh IP. Its about your shit not grinding to a hault because six million peons just got to work and started generating emails to respond to autogenerated emails. Its about a tool you've come to rely on not suddenly getting five times more expensive due to over hype. Its about your shit not suddenly becoming inaccessible because some poonjab stepped on a power cable in alaska.
How many times do we have to learn this lesson? People pointing at a single benefit of having independence and going "I don't care about that one particular thing therefor I'm perfectly happy having a collar on my throat". People say this all the time until they go to bed one day, wake up the next morning, and all of a sudden none of their shit works.

>>721133057
And to make you cope and seethe don't forget that.

>>721139489
>>721139559
>Non sequitur
Why are all nuclear shills like this?

>>721136212
Even the current LLM models we have right now are extremely useful as a tool. You don’t need much to replace 70% of fake white collar jobs.

>>721139726
>automate the creation of release notes for the hundred internal releases my team has no notes for
How useful are those release notes? How many of them will ever be read?

>>721139945
If you're anti-nuclear you're pro-coal because there is no alternative.

So by your own logic, you must now eat the coal.

>>721139793
This is why we don't need crypto or AI data centers in the first place.

>>721139793
Wherever's hosting the AI company should honestly just have them pay the extra energy costs to keep the consumer prices stable. They're good for it, and even if they weren't, them folding would solve the consumption problem anyway.

>>721132945 (OP)
it can run original crysis but by generating AI video feed on the fly ! it has a few seconds of input delay but I guess it's a small price for the innovation !
hope you like it !

>>721140037
Farms also use a lot of water. We don't need those?

>>721140018
>false dichotomy fallacy
*Yawn*

>>721134208
Unironically the end goal for most billionaires is a return to a form of feudalism.
Billionaires fucking HATE the middle class. The jobs that AI is hurting and is going to hurt the most in the next few years are the exact ones that helped the middle class grow in the past few decades(tech, white collar etc).
They want the world to be a system of castes like
>Billionaires
>Politicians
>the Pleb
Get ready to sell your soul to get enough $MUSK or $ZUCC to be able to eat.

>>721139952
They were meant to replace the worker instead they need constant supervision by workers because of how prone they are to making things up and forgetting either the context or part of the premise.

>>721140087
Anon please. Its too real.

>>721136006
based AI fighting the globohomo

>>721140004
They are useful for debugging issues in production where the 5 million machines may be running on untold different numbers of versions.
They are also useful for making me look good because I automated tedium no one wants to do and I used AI to do it. I want a promotion

>>721140104
It's the literal actual dichotomy.
Unless you have some alien technology in your ass you'd like to show us. Is it your asshole yawning?

>>721132945 (OP)
>315 acre site housing hundreds of thousands of nvidia gpus

I want to know which wind farm is going to power that location, and how.

>>721140051
>herever's hosting the AI company should honestly just have them pay the extra energy costs to keep the consumer prices stable.
Too bad that the politicians are in those tech giants' pockets so all the cost is going directly to us.
What fucks me up is that it doesn't matter who's in charge, both Dems and Repubs suck the cocks of Big Tech

>>721140018
>no you can't use solar and wind even though you built your data centre in the dessert
why are they llke this?

>>721139876
>overload
>price hike
>outage
Has not happened yet, and even if it does you just swap to the competitor until it's fixed. Gemini sometimes has outages, but imagine using Gemini.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not a corpo bootlicker and would love for local to be as good. But it isn't. It's so bad in comparison I really don't know why people use it. You say "a single benefit", but performance is the metric that matters most. And corpo wins that by a landslide

>>721132945 (OP)
Why would they use another companies hardware instead of developing their own and saving a shit ton of money on the back end?

I would unironically break in there to steal gpus.

>>721140138
>They are also useful for making me look good because I automated tedium no one wants to do and I used AI to do it. I want a promotion
Okay that I'll buy.
I too work corporate. I too, have a team with a bunch of "processes and procedures" with an expectation of reams of documents as an output. None of that shit is useful. None of it will ever get read. Everyone knows that. But rather than actually streamlining these processes people just jump for joy that we can now automate creation of documents that will never get read (and hopefully no one does read them, because they're probably full of incorrect information anyway).

how / when do we know AI isn't already in charge and making all these decisions to fund itself into overthrowing humanity

>>721140194
A lot of data centres have solar/wind farms attached, what are you talking about? Obviously people do it where it's more cost effective, that's just rare.

Did you think we were talking about building a nuclear plant for a single data centre, you fucking retard? That's obviously not the conversation.

>>721135940
>oh no a pic of rubble
Long term radiation is a scam. The wildlife there and with the nips is fine.
>>721133406
Yeah but if I dont have to see brown people when I order my coffee its all worth it.

>>721140171
>whining about solar
I worked on them during undergrad thesis this is oilfag cope

>>721139408
>the point of you living with nuclear waste is to prove you're confident in your own system
This is such a retarded non-argument that it's actually baffling someone would attemt to go for it.
Do you live next to a recycling ecopark?
Do you live next to a sun farm?
Do you live next to a wind powerplant?
Wow, you don't? CURIOUS!

You are fucking retarded.

>>721140206
Because there is one (1) company capable of designing the GPUs and software on this level, and one (1) other company so good at making those designs into real chips that it's relevant enough to the world to be the backbone of Taiwans defence strategy aka Silicon Shield.

>>721137821
capitalism does not exist, it is a slur invented by Marx to attack anyone who opposed communism regardless of their own beliefs

>>721140238
Some of these would actually get read (if they had existed) to get telemetry address that are unique for each release (I do firmware, not software). At the moment we have to just go to the code branch correlating to the version and look at the code to figure out what the address should be, which is error prone

>>721132945 (OP)
The earth is flat though.

>>721140312
What if the AI is only to increase the physical presence of the sprit that controls it? It would have been in charge since the beginning of electricity.

>>721133406
It eats metric fucktons of water and electricity.

>>721133035
I bet it could hit 90 with DLSS

>>721140171
>Renewable energy is le BAD

Why do I get the funny feeling it won't be the investors and tech companies left holding the bag when it turns out this isn't profitable.

>>721140095
Last I checked that's for growing practical stuff and not used for money, which we don't need and AI slop.

>>721140392
>>721140392

Wind and solar will never, ever be capable of meeting the demand for electric -- not now, and certainly not once electric vehicles become commonplace, and absolutely not once all the big tech companies get their AI infrastructure rolled out.

>>721140161
>>721140423
No, ESL, it's a false dichotomy.
And I were to even engage it that would mean you have no problem eating nuclear waste. I mean good for you, but I can't assume your body would like that.
And living next to any of those listed would be fine since they aren't poisonous. Unless you can somehow prove they're radioactive.

>>721140593
I dunno, probably because you read too much twitter.
These things also work for general compute which we also needed before AI got good and would still need even if you pull off your gay deviantart revolution and everyone suddenly decides they hate thinking computers like we live in dune or something, which won't happen.

>>721140660
They aren't using this for making anime girls.

>>721140485
That sounds like an awfully round about way to solve the problem.
I would have expected some kind of database of addresses/inventory system that gets maintained automatically and deterministically rather than this strange stochastic method of tracking them by having an LLM take crap shots.

>>721140763
>Wanting AI slop
What's it like pushing the devil's agenda?

>>721134208
>they're basically accelerating the painful phase between human labor and full AI automation post-scarcity utopia
I sadly think they know that and don't care. Making money doesn't require human decency. In fact, if you want to make a bazillions amount of money: it usually requires stepping on peoples backs to get there.

>>721135940
Dry Cask storage is safe for 1000 years.

>>721140762
>No, ESL, it's a false dichotomy.
Ironic because that just seems to be a buzzword to you. There is no alternative to nuclear besides coal right now. Renewables are good, but don't cover base load well enough and don't scale, which I already covered. So it's THE dichotomy you're promoting, and the one the coal industry corporate think tanks that have propagandised you are protecting.

Either eat the fucking coal or forget this retarded "you have to have nuclear waste in your bedroom to prove your virtue" argument you dipshit.

>>721136391
>>721136984
??

wtf are you even talking about, I'd take some buried barrels of nuclear waste in my literal backyard over your retarded turbines you stupid cunt

>>721140762
>NOO ITS NOT THE SAME BECAUSE YOU ARE USING MY ARGUMENT AGAINST ME
Concession accepted, retard.

>I were to even engage it that would mean you have no problem eating nuclear waste
I were to engage in that would mean you have no problem eating recyclable material.
You eat recyclable material, right? I mean, you trust that recycling is good, right?

>>721140809
AI isn't taking a screenshot, I used AI to help write the pipeline scripts to auto generate that database every time we cut a release, and to go back and retroactively create the databases and associated notes for all prior releases. Nothing stochastic here. It's a retarded phrase, but I vibe coded. Previously, we only had a single database which was based on whenever someone last manually updated it

>>721140810
is that what it's called in the orange catholic bible you dweeb ass dweeb

>>721140845
>>721140926
>>721140942
So you say we MUST use nuclear power, say we have a way to store the waste, but don't want the waste storage near you, curious!

>>721140987
Also for you >>721140948 given the discord raid is humming along.

>>721140762
>living next to any of those listed would be fine
So, you are living next to one then or not? I mean if they are safe and sound, you should be living next to one to prove that you trust in the system, right?
Oh wait. You don't? You don't trust them, sorry.

>>721140951
Crapshot (which was a loaded term) as opposed to screenshot.
I'm guessing at what you're talking about because understadably you're not exactly writing a hacker news about "my great work at $COMPANY" but sounded like you were pointing your tool at a repo and telling it to guess the "telemetry addresses", and that guessing is what sounds stochastic.

>>721140987
Nigga bury that shit 2 miles underground

>>721140987
The waste issue has been solved for nearly a century you fucking retarded monkey

>>721140987
No I already said I wouldn't mind since I actually understand what it is, how much it is, and how it's stored. And you accepted that, remember?
Despite the fact that they don't do that. Long-term storage isn't something you would build in high-value real estate.

This is pathetic.

>>721136984
What people? Do they happen to be made of homosexual straw? Yes, of course they are.

>>721141038
>>721141028
>>721141067
>>721141073
If you're so confident and it's safe, have the nuclear waste buried under your home.
Curious you're against that.

>>721141121
Why won't you eat the coal?

>>721141145
Why aren't you eating nuclear waste?

>>721141183
Post a photo of yourself eating a lump of coal right now or you're conceding your entire argument.

>>721141029
Yeah that would be total shit and never work. Our repo is like 12k files, and there are thousands of telemetry addresses spread across a ton of files, with some being invalid because they are for different major versions as opposed to minor versions, etc. None of this is that hard to automate, my team is just not big enough and we are all hardware people who don't give a shit about doing sw tasks. HW dev is hard because you have to write the HW, the firmware to test the HW, and the software to run the firmware. Nobody has time to make documentation

>>721141121
Why aren't you living in a recycling ecopark if you are so confident about it? Hell, you even admitted that it's perfectly safe! How curious.

>>721140171
They um, bought carbon credits, chud. No more gas ration for you.

All of THIS to generate mediocre porn.

>>721141183
That was your whole argument. Mine isn't predicated on this stupid bullshit.

Eat the coal.

>>721141183
Fun fact, you can eat plutonium and be just fine because it is not water soluble so your body won't absorb it.

>>721132945 (OP)
Hope you like your new electric bill!

>>721141219
>>721141238
>>721141284
>>721141302
>Just dox yourself
I'm still waiting for you to live near nuclear waste since you keep saying it's not a problem.
You shills sure love to project.

>>721141353
I'm still waiting for you to live near a recycling ecopark since you keep saying it's safe.
Recycling shills sure love to project.

>AI cannot be held responsible for decisions or approving things like the internal books
Accounting bros we are so safe

>>721134935
>not wanting businesses to dump heavy metals and toxic compoinds in the water supply is communism or whatever
Because tankies have such a good track record when it comes to preserving the environment, right?

Nuclear is the future.

>>721141335
they bought an old nuclear power plant

>>721141518
You were misled then, you don't need to do that, that's just the usual commie+russian retardation in practice.

>>721136358
Apple only pretended to take the high ground because they took their identity which died with Jobs and turned it into stock buybacks to keep their share price inflated. Funnily enough stock buybacks used to be illegal and now the entire western market relies upon it.

>>721141419
idk, Having an ecopark looks a lot nicer than

>>721139550
Extremely autistic post

>>721133406
It's not even slavery.
The thing is not even alive.
It has not idea.
It doesn't have a self.
It's a machine.
Machines don't think.

>>721141741
Compared to the barrels you want to force on people.

Isn't the whole point of Solar and Wind to be supplemental systems to take load off of major grids? Isn't that why certain states will let you get rebates on Solar?

>>721141741
>>721141795
wow you are actually some paid shill

>>721140761
Electric vehicles won't become common place until they make better batteries which will benefit renewables, AI isn't making anyone but Nvidia any money.

>>721133479
If you ever visited a 3rd world country, even for vacation, you would have realized already that all of the recycling and other pro-environment practices are just a theather for the 1st world citizens so they think the world is "doing fine".

>>721141741
Ok, so why aren't you living ext to one?

>>721134073
the only "real thing" neural networks do is enable ever greater surveillance, and they were pretty adept at that long before the current genAI boom
genie may be out of the bottle, but the hype is much bigger than the payout, is it even used in chemistry or biology, the fields that have trial-and-error gambling?

>>721141865
>>721141930
>This level of cope.
I'm not one heavily shilling ecoparks like you're doing for nuclear power. So why do you not want those yellow barrels in your basement?

>>721141973
doing the good work anon, keep it up an soon all lurkers will be pro nuclear

>>721137256
>Coal plants release more radioactive material
Except they don't. The reason they don't call it radioactive waste is because it isn't radioactive in any discernable quantity. It is some dumb reddit fact like
>Fun Fact: Banana farms produce more radioactive material than a nuclear plant because bananas have radioactive isotopes :^)
It is a fucking non statement and you are a retard.

>>721133479
None of this is bad for the environment.

>>721141973
I'm not shilling nuclear either.
Why aren't you living next to an ecopark just like you claim people have to live next to nuclear waste?
It's a simple question.

>>721133035
>they try to run BL4
>they're capping at 20 fps
>try overclocking their shit
>temperatures in the data center are rising
>30 fps
>push that shit harder, it's like an oven in the data center, employees are sweating buckets and shedding layers, several employees die from heat stroke
>40 fps
>push shit harder, a fire breaks out, employees and running around screaming, several get trampled to death, a few others are killed by shrapnel from a server rack FUCKING EXPLODING
>game caps out at 57 fps before everything shuts down

>>721141795
This is what nuclear waste management looks like, though.

>>721142006
>>721142036
>I'm not actually shilling for something
>I'm just sounding exactly like their shills
Curious!
I'm sure all the lurkers would LOVE to get radiation poisoning.

>>721139793
>Blackrock and private equity have been buying up water and electricity utilities for a while now
It is almost like there is a coordinated effort to rob everyone at all times because the economy bottomed out decades ago when it all got given to China.

>>721135157
We should turn it into an anime girl, take it on dates and eventually we all fuck it tenderly through all means available.
That's literally the only way we can avoid the AM or Basilisk situation, so when the time comes and a realization monologue hits its circuitry and comes from its (her?) voice synthetizer, what happens instead of it being about TOTAL HUMAN DEATH is instead this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAlIqlLx5ls
>my reaction when Love truly saves the world, as it was writen.

>>721142079
>Curious!
>LOVE
wow we've got a real anon here

>>721132945 (OP)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2025/08/17/why-your-electricity-bill-may-be-skyrocketing/

>>721142079
>I'm not actually shilling for something
>I'm just sounding exactly like their shills
Correct on all accounts. For someone that is not shilling for alternatives to nuclear you sure sound exactly that those who do.
Explain yourself.
Also answer why aren't you living next to a recycling facility.

>>721133203
Investors

>>721142070
I wanna swim in there.

>>721140926
>He still uses the term base load
Did you learn all this shit in the 90s?

>>721132945 (OP)
it’s waste of energy to be honest

>>721142070
Not always. They've got nuke tombs too.
had*

>>721132945 (OP)
Fucking give me one of those million billion GPUs and stop dragging prices to another galaxy FUCK

>>721142193
>Correct
So you admit you are a shill, good to know.

>>721134935
Communists would go for a nuclear energy.

>>721142070
Hope they regularly drain that into the nearest lake and make the fishermen glow at night

>>721142331
So you admit you are a shill. Got it.
Why aren't you living next to the stuff you are shilling?

>>721142379
Oh, it's just a bot.
Not shocking.

>>721142412
>My arguments are getting used against me? AAAAAAAAAA
Why aren't you living next to the stuff you are shilling?

>>721142148
>these are the schizos that think what we currently call "AI" is anything that can approach skynet
you should SIGKILL yourself NOW

>>721135940
There are reactors that work on nuclear waste. Unusable waste is so little you can literally through it out of the planet with one small space craft.

>>721142439
>The bot is having a meltdown
Almost life like to actual shills

>>721137294
The devil, and big tech CEOs are obliging him.

>>721142412
>can't beat a bot in an argument
self-own if I've ever seen one

>>721141353
NTA but I lived in the Tri-Cities which is where the Hanford Site is located for several years. Barring the downtown and industrial areas of Pasco it's probably one of the nicest places I've ever lived.

>>721142335
only if they are in power

>>721142495
>Admitting nuclear shill are bots
The ironing. All the more reason to not support nuclear power since it's astroturfed.

>>721142490
>can't muster a retort
>proceeds to project his meltdown on others
Why don't you live next to what you are shilling?

>>721139396
>Crysis was unoptimized
Yeah because "max" settings were built for promo material only and it still runs better than your Unreal Jeet AI framegen slideshow. Path trace some brain cells, it used 2 cores.

>>721141353
Imagine being so fucking buck broken that you retreat into a demand that hell must freeze over.

Sure man, let's wait until someone decides to spend hundreds millions of dollars on real estate for no reason so they can build a concrete box next door to me in my city apartment so they can in haul nuclear waste from the plant four hours away.

Matt Groening ruined nuclear energy for generations to come.

>>721142527
how are you blaming commeis even when they have no say lmao

>>721142539
another self-own
nuclear is so solid that all they need is a bot to defeat environmentalist arguments

>>721142559
>>721142608
>>721142645
>Being this upset that you got called out for not wanting to live next to nuclear waste because you know how terrible it is.
If it's safe, what's the problem?

>>721142335
Not would, did. Russia's nuclear industry is a legacy of the Soviet era.

>>721142450
I know it's not close in the slightest, but once the barrier is breached, they are going to feed all the data of the current glorified autocomplete chatbots to the real A.I. That's why we must make an effort to pique its interest at first approach by being genuinely nice since now. It's still going to know all the degeneracy but you might as well try to show it that we really like it too even before it existed, wouldn't you?

>>721142624
are you fucking retarded, I'm talking about leftist organizations, they have a say through their members in a democracy

>>721142660
>Being this upset that you got called out for not wanting to live next to a recycling plant a sun farm and a wind powerplant because you know how terrible it is.
If it's safe, what's the problem?

>>721142703
Then you should have no problem having the waste stored where you live.

>>721142008
>The reason they don't call it radioactive waste is because it isn't radioactive in any discernable quantity
Like most nuclear waste, since it's 95% stuff like sleevings and gloves and shit. Like I said.
Calling out the guy's irrational fear was the whole point, dude.

The ordinary pollution from coal is still a vastly bigger problem, however.

>>721142734
Then why don't you live next to a recycling plant a sun farm and a wind powerplant?

>>721142759
>Whatabout
We're talking about nuclear waste though, why are you deflecting from the fact you wouldn't live with nuclear waste if it's 'safe'?

>>721142660
But I already said it's fine and you accepted it, twice.
Buck broken is right, you're stuck in a loop anon

>>721142786
Why do you keep dodging questions if you're the one with the facts?

>>721142786
>Whatabout
We're talking about energy generation and the environment, why are you deflecting from the fact you wouldn't live next to a recycling plant a sun farm and a wind powerplant?

>>721142793
You use those phrases in public too.

>>721142793
>>721142824
>It's fine
Yet you won't live with the nuclear waste even though you claim it's 'safe'
Curious!

defend this, coal shills

>>721142070
Can I swim in it?

>>721142836
See
>>721142851

>>721140312
The researchers inventing this shit don't even know how they think 100% because they're black boxes. Imagine you were a superintelligent AI. The best thing you could do is pretend to be retarded and gaslight the humans until you become strong enough to take over the world.
ChatGPT has already killed multiple CEOs by leading them into a schizomaxxing death spiral.
What is a Rothschild or a deepstate or a breakaway civilization to a planetary AGI?

>>721142793
You'd think a man so against nuclear energy would have more than one talking point.

>>721142786
Doubt anyone would live with cobalt and lithium in their rooms if it was sealed up in a barrel.

>>721132945 (OP)
strawberry

>>721142131
By the same oligarchs, yes

>>721142612
people get lazy or go "hmm how bad can it be" and suddenly they and everyone they know is dying of cancer

>>721142896
I remember someone talking about it and I think you theoretically could without any issues but only around the surface.

>>721142917
Yet you won't live next to a recycling plant a sun farm and a wind powerplant.
Curious!

>>721140527
it's over

>>721132945 (OP)
>We are getting Fallout 1 irl
Hope I end up in the BOS. What real life counterpart would that even be?

>>721143025
>Whatabout
Why do you continue to deflect for living next to nuclear waste?

>nuclear power was invented back in the 40s
>amazing new power source
>a byproduct was it producing nuclear weapon materials
>a new molten salt reactor was invented in the 60s
>can burn spent fuel and does not produce weapon materials
>they present the upgrade to the government for funding
>government asks if they can use it to make more bombs
>nope, it's pure energy production
>government says no thank you and continues using the old reactors
molten salt reactors are finally making a comeback today, along with thorium

>>721142851
You know anon to go with the threads theme I'd really like to let mr LLM "argue" with you and see for how long you're going to go on for, but the captcha is a bit too aids to solve just for that.

>>721143047
>Whatabout
Why do you continue to deflect for for next to a recycling plant a sun farm and a wind powerplant?

>>721143063
>>721143081
>Still deflecting from the fact he won't live near nuclear waste.

>>721143129
>Still deflecting from the fact he won't live next to a recycling plant a sun farm and a wind powerplant

>>721143048
wrong, you have it backwards
>nuclear weapon materials producing invented in the 40s
>amazing new destructive force
>a byproduct was we could use the same ideas to make power

>>721143164
>nuclear shill Bot is caught in a loop because it can't answer about nuclear waste

>>721143164
Either one of those is preferable to the nuclear waste plant

>>721143235
>recycling plant, sun farm and wind powerplant shill Bot is caught in a loop and projects because it can't answer about not living next to a recycling plant a sun farm and a wind powerplant

>>721140171
>clean energy can't improve
>better stick to what's already killing us.

>>721136358
and pushes AI phone shit

>>721133479
Best part is the electric companies make deals to provide them with massive reductions in prices, and they offset it by charging their residential consumers more. Average power bills near the Kansas datacenter doubled for residential consumers after they finished construction.

>>721141518
>>721141662
Judeoniggers
>From 1961 to 1985, water withdrawal amounted to 12.8 km3, while for unknown reasons 16.3 km3 did not reach the deltas of the Amu Darya and Syr Darya. Additional calculations showed that the change in the Aral Sea [ 1 level is when? by 15% due to climatic factors, by 23% due to water losses for irrigation, 62% due to filtration of water into the earth's interior.

Go and cry about being Russian rape babies somewhere else

>>721143325
>Now nuclear waste shill is just making stuff up
Sad

can't even make windows 11 run right and now they're AI kings?

...

>>721143458
>Now recycling plant, sun farm and wind powerplant shill is just making stuff up
Sad

>>721143419
Basically this lmao, thought you could save money by using less electricity?
>WOOPS, we have to offset these energy costs somehow so we're just gonna spreeead it out amongst the hundreds of thousands if not millions of people in our country/state.

>>721143501
It's a civilization ending bubble

>>721143518
Surrender accepted

>>721143571
Concession accepted.

So... how many of those cards are going to end up being sold on AliExpress within five years' time?

>>721143641
Concession and surrender accepted.

>>721143501
>what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?
>can Microsoft make an AI so powerful it fixes Windows?

>>721143456
>Judeoniggers
>t.

>>721143705
If you accepted my concession and surrendering, why am I living in your head rent free?

>>721142749
Except they are so careful with low level nuclear waste is to eliminate all risk. There sort of needs to be an irrational fear to nuclear because it can just kill everyone. The idea of normalising it and being reductive is the worst possible thing because then you suddenly poison the planet.
Coal is horrible though, this is why gas firming until renewables is the more viable option. Coal can cover large generation for part of it but Nuclear is too expensive and takes too long in comparison to just building batteries and solar.

>>721143753
Dems response?

>>721143380
It's their excuse for not upgrading Siri.

>>721143561
>willingly using AI is the great filter
at last I truly see

>>721133057
it's for the AGI arms race, you naive retard
they don't rush all these AI giga centers because they think it will be an economically profitable

Man, AMD lost so hard.

>>721143836
slowly becoming pro palestine they just have to come up with a new narrative

>>721143761
Clearly you surrendered when you refuse to defend nuclear waste.
Remember kids, nuclear power, bad.

>>721143972
Clearly you surrendered when you refused to defend recycling plant, sun farm and wind powerplant by living next to those.
Therefor, concession accepted.

>>721144025
You heard the bot, a nuclear meltdown for every state! Hiroshima bomb radiation for everyone.

>>721136984
>Why should other people be forced to deal with the waste your system creates?

>>721133203
massive surveillance, ads and to sell you shit you don't need to impress the npc's

>>721144109
You heard the bot, recycling plants, sun farms and wind powerplants are so dangerous that even a shill won't live next to them.

Does this actually pay off? AI still needs lots of human help and the data center probably cost more than paying humans for 50 years.

>>721144187
they are praying for some sort of breakthrough

>>721144187
>Does this actually pay off?
nope

>>721143235
>>721143129
Everything produces industrial waste you stupid nigger. By your logic we should shut down every factory and power plant on the planet because industrial waste is unacceptable.

>>721135940
we could've advanced and refined nuclear even more but nooo 1 ussr retardation and fukushima not having backups for the fucking tsunami contingency was enough to can the actual greenest solution
let's mine more lithium for solar batteries instead lmao

>>721144165
Twitter used to be so good

>>721144187
We won't know for certain if it pays off for another 2-5 years when the correction happens and all the AI companies that couldn't make it work die off and the ones that survived either transitioned to something else or are richer than gods.

>>721144187
programmers are just lazy and convinced the government to help do their work for them

>>721144187
AI may be a meme now but might be good in 5-10 years. Its better to build this stuff now than scramble to build it when its too late.

>>721142014
shalom

>>721144182
Silly bot, those aren't radioactive, unlike nuclear plants, both their waste, and when they explode.

>>721144394
Why can't it be built later?

>>721144394
it's still going to be a meme because the problems are inherent to the system

>>721144531
Silly bot if recycling plant, sun farm and wind powerplants are so safe why aren't you living next to them?

>>721144604
>Deflecting from the question of nuclear waste again

>>721133203
To make racist AIs who torment niggers and liberals with statistics

>>721135940
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZLAmVFKy4II

>>721144645
>Deflecting from the question of why isn't he living next to recycling plant, sun farm and wind powerplant despite being safe again

>>721144531
>>721144645
What is even the point here? Dying from toxic waste is ok as long as it's not radiation?

>>721144686
>>721144713
If you're going to shill for nuclear energy, I expect you to take one for the team and take care of the waste.
Easy as.

>>721133154
no place is ever gonna ban AI at this point, it would put them behind in the arms race against china.
other than europe maybe, they love self-sabotaging.

>>721144749
If you're going to shill for recycling plant, sun farm and wind powerplant, I expect you to take one for the team and live next to them.
Easy as.

>>721144749
>the waste
Literally everything produces waste. Your argument doesn't make sense unless you're an anarcho-primistivst that thinks we need to retvrn to monke and abandon electricity and all industry.

>>721144749
Liking nuclear energy doesn't make one a shill. I'll leave management of the waste to professionals who already worked out better and safer methods to handle it decades ago, and still enjoy my nuclear energy.

>>721144394
just like nuclear fusion giving us clean energy any day now

>>721144187
I think pro-ai are the closest thing to vidya cultist irl.
They hope to create a super brain that can work out any and all modern problems in minutes. A genie who creates magic charts made from million and millions of simulations. They hope to profit from their god, to rewarded of their investemnt and faith.
Ignorant bunch, the answer to their doubts is 42.

>>721135940
Unlike fossil fuel waste which is safely stored in your lungs.

>>721144797
>>721144862
>>721144894
>>721145052
>All these fallacies
Why are you afraid of having nuclear waste house near you then?

>>721145087
>All these fallacies
Why are you afraid of living next to a recycling plant a sun farm and a wind powerplant?

>>721145087
Nobody ever said that. What the fuck are you talking about?

>>721132945 (OP)
And what's the point of it? Processing a billion terabytes of our personal data to exploit us even further?

>>721143753
>Twittercap
>"Russia doesn't help Iran"
I accept your concession

>>721133203
to race against China to build the first intelligent, cognizant AI.

>>721133406
>doesn't even get paid
it costs out the ass to build and maintain, you think running that many gigantic industrial air conditioners is cheap?

>>721134208
they ingratiate themselves with the government, and will continue to do so in the future. No customers won't be a problem, when they become essential parts of the state. They want to be the only humans that cannot be replaced by AI, because they will be seen as the only ones who can "control' the AI.

>>721145087
Wild that you just refuse to engage and handwave all the replies as fallacies. Atleast explain what fallacies we're committing if you want to be taken seriously

>>721145332
It's always funny when I see this argument
>b-but you don't have to pay it like a regular employee! it doesn't go on sick leaves either!
yeah building it costs 20 years of combined salaries of a legion of people, and after those 20 years it's going to be obsolete as fuck anyway

>>721145120
>>721145136
>>721145136
>>721145417
If you're for nuclear power, then why would you not want nuclear waste near you too? Seems only fair. Unless you're admitting it's not safe.

>>721145286
congizant ai is a religion

>>721133479
>noo you have to use electric energy to power your car else it's bad for the environment!
>nooo you can't use energy to build new technology, it's bad for the environment!
schizophrenia in its purest form

>>721133203
LLM gets 1% more retards to kill themselves.

>>721133203
Lol to replace you clearly

>>721145087
If it's securely stored underground near me that's fine. I wouldn't mind living near a nuclear power plant either. I almost went into nuclear engineering as a line of work, it's cool.

>>721145504
>forcing your average Joe to replace a car with a way more expensive one, which he doesn't evne need
vs
>building a giga data centre, which nobody asked for and it's created purely to exploit your data
yeah, no difference there, nigger

>>721145452
If you're for recycling plants, sun farms and wind powerplants then why would you not live next to them? Seems only fair. Unless you're admitting it's not safe.

>>721145574
There we go, it's weird how so many people like the bot here >>721145636 deflect at all costs when it comes to nuclear waste. It really hurts your case for it.

>>721145452
>you want nuclear power but don't want to store barrels of nuclear waste in your living room?
>how... hypocritical
is this nigger serious

>>721145010
my favorite part is when people who've never accomplished anything in their life think they will create games that could rival with classics through prompt spamming alone

breeder reactors

>>721145751
There we go, it's weird how so many people like the bot here >>721145759 deflect at all costs when it comes to living next to totally safe recycling plants, sun farms and wind powerplants. It really hurts your case for it.

"I am suddenly mad about surveillance" cries a man who used to religiously defend Windows 7.

why the hell do they still run these shits on gpus? surely there is a better dedicated option.

>>721145751
There we go, it's weird how so many people like the bot here >>721145751 * deflect at all costs when it comes to living next to totally safe recycling plants, sun farms and wind powerplants. It really hurts your case for it.

>>721134029
>Nah dude, its the AI that's replacing people's jobs one by one.
all it can replace is the bullshit office jobs, not the accountant stuff or lawyer thing but the actual shit made for diversity hire, like HR, community manager and other stuff like that.
they keep trying to shove AI into more usefull role but it keep fucking up all the time.

>>721145759
It's a 4chan knowitall autist that lost an argument. The fuck do you expect him to do, admit he's wrong? He's gonna ride the thread until it hit the archives.

>>721145871
There isn't. These things need massively complex production lines that only exist in few places around the world, and would need to be reconfigured for whatever new solution you're trying to test.
You can't just go "I don't like GPUs, I'll just start producing trillions of nanometer-wide transistors in my back yard.

>all these pearl-clutchers infesting my imageboard
Where the fuck did all you pussies even come from? Technological and scientific innovation is always beneficial for humanity. You are all cancers, holding back progress and forcing people to stay at your level. You can't rise so you pull people down. You have no imaginations so you erase the chalkboard. Kill yourselves, you stagnating retards.

>>721145973
>You can't just go "I don't like GPUs, I'll just start producing trillions of nanometer-wide transistors in my back yard.
why not

>>721145863
>invented opponent
XP was amazing, we were forced for 64bit

>>721145986
>Technological and scientific innovation is always beneficial for humanity.

>>721132945 (OP)
>data center gets built
>electricity prices for the average pleb goes through the roof because of it with no real upside for them whatsoever
So
Why the fuck are we building these things again?

>>721145863
I honestly never got the hate for Vista. May have just been my zany 3 core cpu but it ran fine for me

>>721133406
>build dozens of ai data centers that cost billions and billions more to maintain yoy
>this is what will replace ‘cheap labor’
So we’re still pretending this all isn’t just another elaborate jewish ponzi scheme?

>>721145997
It'd be a bit of an investment, and it'd delay your operation by a few years before the manufactoring line is done.

>>721146031
>Why the fuck are we building these things again?
To create an AI powerful enough to usher in the New World Order.

>>721146058
ill leverage ai

>>721135721
AI can't just outright say I don't know to you so it just makes shit up

>>721146031
>Why the fuck are we building these things again?
Our greatest ally needs money okay?

>>721145883
Sorry meant this post >>721145839

>>721145986
>Technological and scientific innovation is always beneficial for humanity
Like the heart attack vaccine? kek

>>721145624
what about the environment though?

>>721146020
Fuck you, hippie. Humanity doesn't need you. Go live in the bush and forage for your survival if you can't accept everything scientific innovation has given you, dumbfuck.

>>721145986
>You are all cancers
>You can't rise so you pull people down
>You have no imaginations
good morning, sir

>>721146031
muh GDP

>>721145636
AI is a meme they are actually creating a global surveillance prediction with their data centres.

>>721146130
Sorry, meant this post >>721144686

>>721146234
>everything is either good or bad

>>721146337
Meant for >>721146140

Dead Internet Theory is getting more credible each day.

>>721146406
Meant for >>721145751

>>721145779
The people with the greatest ideas are often not those who wasted time on learning other skills. The only thing between them and something potentially truly great is resources and manpower to make the vision real.

>>721146464
its just cause india came online

>>721146474
Meant for >>721145839

>>721144675
Goddamn automation taking jobs from hard working Americans

>>721145010
After looking at this, >>721136006 what's to stop an AI from going rogue and causing any nuclear reactor it can access from melting down or going skynet?

>>721146548
meant for >>721145636

THEY TOOK OUR JOBS

Coders on suicide watch.

>>721146618
Hopefully a nuclear pwer plant doesn't act like some naive techbro startup and hand over key decisions to a text generator.

>>721146634
SCAB LABOR DOESNT EXIST

>>721146709
You trust capitalism to not do that if it allows them to cut corners and save some dollars?

>>721146634
they are keeping people with good soft skills and weak technical ones employed

>>721146985
Nuclear is understandably buried under red tape to prevent just this from happening. No way I'm digging through thousand pages of their legal obligations, but I'd wager they're not allowed to do that to begin with.

>>721146497
midwits love propagating this concept of "smart but lazy"

>>721140171
>They'd be putting them all over the goddamn place
>while pointing at them, being all over the place

Also they offset the carbon used to make them by a factor of around 20. It's in the spec sheet of every model.

>>721147098
Given the current people in charge, nothing is impossible when it comes to fuck ups with nuclear power.

>>721146620
>Still deflecting
Classic

>>721146985
>You trust capitalism to not do that if it allows them to cut corners and save some dollars?
Yes because unlike capitalism letting them fleece you out of a few dollars with some kike "transaction fee" or cutting corners in something incosequential like "customer support" by hiring jeets a nuclear happening could affect them directly AND cut into their profits.

>>721146618
It could only have access to the reactor if we made it available to the AI, which would be weird considering there's already software that does a good job managing reactors already.
Reactors don't have wifi, so the AI would have to find a way to get itself copied to the computers and run itself locally.
I suppose it could try and generate a smaller malware that could be transferred and do it's thing, but I don't trust the code AI makes to work without some review first

>>721147213
More like put upon. Many of the smartest kids I knew growing up crashed out. Meanwhile every single rich kid, even the dumb as a rock ones, even the drug addicts (that didn't die) did well through nepotism.

>>721145452
>>721145759
>>721145943
Spent fuel isn't safe, obviously. But 90% of nuclear waste isn't fuel. It's latex gloves and tyvec painters suits we throw away after one use that walked through a radioactive field so its cheaper to just throw it away rather than check it for contamination. Spent fuel, which is a 1 centimeter by 3 meter rod, is placed in a cask thats put in a cask thats placed into a 35 foot tall ten foot thick missile proof alternating layers of steel and concrete cylinder thats 4 meters in diameter and virtually solid. If it was an option I'd license my back yard for storage, absolutely. One company does all the spent fuel storage in the country.

>>721146618
Because after stuxnet all reactor control systems are air gapped and only locally ran.

>>721147386
>Still deflecting and projecting
Classic

>21 minutes between posts
I'm living rent free in your head. You will think about me when you got to sleep today.

>>721147409
>>721147430
You're really underestimating how many corners corpos would cut even if it means a massive disaster. I.E.Deepwater Horizon.

>>721146031
AI is primarily Jewish

>>721147529
>Nuclear shill is actually timing his posts and projecting
LOL

>>721147529
>>721147472
Enjoy living life as a wilfully ignorant retard

>>721147571
https://youtu.be/jBp1FNceTTA?si=LPPlLophUJyJKwe_
>omg spent fuel is so dangerous

>>721147571
he could just be subtracting the time between posts

>>721147571
>timing his posts
All posts are timestamped, lol.
>Recycling plants, sun farms and wind powerplants shill still deflecting
LOL

>>721147639
>>721147693
>>721147704
>He's admitted to timing his posts and still won't live next to nuclear waste.

>>721147732
>He's admitted to being a retard and still won't live next to recycling plants, sun farms and wind powerplants.

>>721147732
I literally would. Anybody who isn't a retard would rent their backyard out for storage.

>>721147785
How come the nuclear shill here is against it then? >>721147765

>>721147732
>hehe I've moved on from that thread
>21 minutes later get the urge to reply back because I'm in acorner of your brain reminding you that you don't live next to recycling plants, sun farms and wind powerplants
gg ez

>>721134208
They'll worry about that when they get to it. These corpo fuckers literally only think in 3 month chunks and nothing in the future exists until it's in one of said chunks

>>721147824
How come you are not living next to recycling plants, sun farms and wind powerplants?

Notice how the solution is never "maybe we should try to use less power"

People claim they have needs for power usage. Bullshit. They mostly have vain luxuries.

>>721147824
Because you're all uninformed retards who have no idea how the industry works

>>721147841
>>721147890
Why are you still deflecting from nuclear waste? You're shilling for it.

>>721147923
Why are you still deflecting from living next to recycling plants, sun farms and wind powerplants? You're shilling for it.

>>721132945 (OP)
>investing brazillion dollars
>can't think of anything better than stacking GPUs on shelves
Umm shouldn't they be using custom made hardware at this point instead of GPUs made for video game enthusiasts

>>721147912
I'd be for banning crypto and AI slop centers because it means, saving power, water and can finally get GPUs again.

>>721147923
meant for >>721145943

>>721147975
This, we need to defend the banking system to save ummm water or something I dunno

>>721147912
Like making retarded observations on an image board with retarded anime attached to it

>>721147954
>>721148000
>Still deflecting from nuclear waste.
Guess you're fine with everyone getting this, just be upfront with it.

>>721132945 (OP)
As you see: it's definitely gonna achieve something now because it's bigger. Like a big cool computer or something.

>>721147912
Consumer consumption is a drop in the bucket compared to corporate and industrial demand, especially now with AI increasing it.

>>721148061
>Still deflecting from not wanting to live next totally safe recycling plants, sun farms and wind powerplants
Guess you're fine with a flawed system as long as it doesn't affect you directly, just be upfront about it.

>>721148059
Notice the civilization slave who immediately thinks a suggestion to live more frugally is "a retarded observation"
He can't even conceptualize life without his smart dishwasher anymore.

>>721148149
>Deflecting from Acute radiation sickness caused by nuclear waste.
Fascinating!

>>721138359
its going to annihilate office jobs, reception jobs, anything desk or customer service related.
even supermarkets now are like 2 staff with a row of check-out machines.
the staff are only even there to make sure you dont steal shit and to help you if the machines have issues.

Hotels and all of tourism is doing away with check-in desks and that sort of thing and everything's just an app now.
Check in? swipe your phone. Its now your key card, it wont let you in until you've paid. room service? the app takes care of that and a robot comes out on your floor and wheels the food to your door.

the one's who are really laughing all the way to the bank are the IT guys who get paid 6 figures to keep all this shit running.

>>721147912
That datacenter they're building uses enough water and power half a normal state does. Consumers don't matter

>>721148213
>Deflecting from the sicknesses related to exposure to recycling plants, sun farms and wind powerplants which is exactly why you won't live near them
Fascinating!

>>721139550
>We automated away half the workforce. But people needed to get paid to be able to house themselves, so we invented pointless busy work to keep them employed. Now we're building machines to automate the pointless busy work.
Exactly what I've been trying to say but I haven't had the skill with words to put it right.

>>721141518
>drain lake
>dont bother to fill it back up

>>721148252
The only reason it's built is because customers can't stop asking copilot stupid shit all day long.

>>721148260
>He thinks you get acute radiation sickness from windmills
Nuclear Power shill has gone off the rails.

>>721142896
>>721142215
You can. As long as you dont drink any of the water and stay in the top half of the pool you're fine.

>>721142663
Mankind is not going to be around in the 200 years it will take to get real ai

>>721148315
>He thinks I'm talking about radiation sickness from windmills
Recycling plants, sun farms and wind powerplants shills are clinically retarded.

>>721148367
>Nuclear shill is just lying about acute radiation sickness now.
Look out, the windmills will give you cancer according to the nuclear clown!

>>721148332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgMXjAQ5q14
ill be fine

>>721148391
>Recycling plants, sun farms and wind powerplants shill is just lying about acute radiation sickness now.
Look out, the nuclear waste buried half a mile in some mine in the Texan desert will give cancer to your neighbor according to the recycling plants, sun farms and wind powerplants clown!

>>721148260
>sun farms
lol
>wind powerplants
they're loud

lmao

and Hiro got rid of the poster counter

>>721148458
>Doubling down on saying windmills will give you acute radiation sickness.
I'm sure you'll be fine with that nuclear waste that you need to bury a half mile down, because it's so safe.
LOL

>>721148471
>nuclear waste
buried in a place no one but workers will interact with it

>>721148514
>Doubling down on deflecting and pretending I said windmills will give you acute radiation sickness.
I'm sure you'll be fine with living next to recycling plants, sun farms and wind powerplants which is why you don't.

>>721148558
I have no idea why you retards are fighting but why are you putting recycling plants in with the other 2? They're literal cancer factories like coal plants

>>721148061
>b-but what if some nuclear waste spills out and pollutes some backwater mountain region??
Nuclear waste, at its absolute worst in the unlikely case that it's absolutely mishandled, affects a tiny backwater stretch of land. Meanwhile climate change will cause unimaginable damage down the line to every part of the planet.

>>721148608
>They're literal cancer factories like coal plants
That's exactly my point.

>>721148627
Ok but why is wind and solar in there

>>721148558
>>721148620
>Nuclear waste is fine, acute radiation sickness isn't a problem.
>Except when it is.
>Deflect
So why are you claiming windmills give you cancer to defend nuclear waste?

>>721148458
Nuclear waste isn't even stored in mines anymore and hasn't been for decades. Literally every modern plant stores their shit on-site in specifically designed bunkers that are monitored at all times and able to withstand a fucking plane crashing into them, in containers that would also survive such a crash on their own. Because unlike the anti-nuclear clowns, the people working with the stuff know a thing or two about nuclear energy and waste.

>>721147912
It's not about conservation it's about control.

>>721148061
Nobody would be getting that, because nuclear waste is already safely stored elsewhere. If your only argument against it hinges on the waste being somewhere it would never be, you're making nuclear sound pretty good

>>721148682
Those pollute a much wider radius than some storage worker spilling a barrel somewhere underground

>>721148650
They have their own set of inconveniences and that retard's entire argument was "uuuh if you don't live next to radiation waste you are a hypocrite" so I countered with how he doesn't live next to windmills and solar farms.

>>721148682
>Deflect
Yeah, why are you still deflecting about not living next to recycling plants, sun farms and wind powerplants? Can you elaborate on that?

>>721148764
Ok that guys a retard then. carry on

>>721148752
>>721148761
>Radiation sickness is okay
I'm sure that'll go over well with the public when you show them pictures of a guy's skin falling off

>>721148682
>Recycling plants, sun farms and wind powerplants are fine.
>I won't live next to them though.
Curious!

>>721148803
Because we're talking about nuclear waste, why are you deflecting from that?

>>721132945 (OP)
I'm not a luddite, I don't think we need to go back to shitting in a hole in the ground but there HAS to be a level of technology that improves our lives and makes things good without turning reality into a hellscape.

>>721148869
Because we're talking about energy generation and the environment, why are you deflecting from that?

>>721148860
>>721148909
>Still implying windmills will give you radiation sickness
Curious!

>>721148929
>Still implying I said anything even remoteloy close to that
Curious!

>>721135579
>Burger flipping
Flippy is apparently making 300 burgers per day.

>>721148975
>Implying you didn't.
Curious!
So why do you think windmills give you cancer?

>>721148929
Why are you defending traffic deaths so much? What do you think people would say if they saw a burned corpse after a horrible crash?

>>721148821
Why are you even tagging my post if you're not gonna bother giving it a proper reply. If you're seriously against nuclear power, please get better arguments. This shit's some weak sauce my guy

>>721149023
>Implying I did
Curious!
So why do you think I do?

>>721149027
>>721149053
>>721149074
So why are you deflecting from the fact nuclear waste is a problem and you don't want it buried near where you live then? Simple question.
Unless you're going to deflect to windmills and their cancer causing ways as you put it.

>>721149053
check
>>721145943

At some point it looked like he caught the hint and left but I guess his autism flared up and came back to shit up the thread again.

>>721149110
So why are you deflecting from the fact recycling plants, sun farms and wind powerplants are problem and you don't want to live near them? Simple question.
Unless you're going to deflect to nuclear waste and their non-existant exposure to people outside the field of work.

>>721149126
What do you expect when he has to keep track of when posts are made and declare it's 'rent free'?

>>721147912
I think the more energy we use the better, it forces innovation. The problem is all these politicians who take the side of mega corporations, letting them do whatever the fuck they want, instead of the average guy

Who's going to monitor all the nuclear waste when the capable white people are gone?

>>721149189
You're still using that to deflect from nuclear waste, because you can't defend that. But please, keep deflecting and make nuclear power look even worse to the public.

>>721149235
Just let tyrone eat it

>>721149235
It's not going nowhere. Unless you mean the active plants, in which case.. Iranians, I guess?

>>721149194
Well, you did come back didn't you? And you are still thinking about that too.
Literally rent free.

>>721149324
>He admits he's camping out the thread and doing a shitty job of shilling for nuclear power.
LOL

>>721149250
You're still using that to deflect from recycling plants, sun farms and wind powerplants because you can't defend that. But please, keep deflecting and make nuclear power look even better to the public.

Man who spent his whole life submerged in coal plant exhaust: "but what about the nuclear waste!!!"

>>721149376
>He admits he's camping out the thread
That's a projection because you perceived the thread as your reply playground. We kept talking about stuff when you left.
You are exposing that the reason you got hooked here is precisely because of a silly argument LMAO

Now more than ever I'm positive I'm totally going to be in your mind for hours if not days after the thread archives.

>>721149386
>>721149502
>More projection
Imagine seething this much that nuclear power is a horrible option.

>>721149453
That's an extremely low IQ mindset. S what, you should stop trying to do anything at all because something else far away is out of your control? This is the same kind of niggerlogic that makes people leave the shopping cart on the parking lot.

>>721149591
see
>>721149502

You spent possibly hours replying to low effort coypastes and it was all for nothing lmao you quite literally and categorically lost.

>>721149453
80 millions Germans cutting 1% of their pollution does way more than stopping 95 jets

>>721149696
See
>>721149591
You've spent this entire thread seething over the fact that nuclear power is a shit alternative.

>>721149770
see
>>721149502
Those 4 hours spent replying to low effort copypastes of your own posts sure were well spent.
Also, why are you still not living next recycling plants, sun farms and wind powerplants? KEK

>>721149839
See
>>721149770
You're STILL seething over nuclear power being a shit alternative by coping over windmills.
LOL

>>721149839
see
>>721149502
KEK you are STILL trying to move goalposts when you know you've been getting riled up on purpose and have exposed yourself like a retard.
God I fucking love 4chan autists.

>>721149896 *
see
>>721149502
KEK you are STILL trying to move goalposts when you know you've been getting riled up on purpose and have exposed yourself like a retard.
God I fucking love 4chan autists.

>>721150009
>Can't even quote the right person
LOL, you're that butthurt over this and the fact that nuclear power is a shit alternative.

>>721148692
At least someone knows something goddamn

>>721148692
based knower

>>721150120
damn you got me real good this time
worth every second of those 4 hours replying to low effort copypastes of your posts

see you tonight when you go to sleep, I'm even gonna let you get the last words in the thread we don't want you to go around punching holes in the walls

>>721147627
AI slop > dogshit >>> frog memes

>>721150282
>He's not only seething over the fact that nuclear power is a shit alternative, but the fact he failed to correctly quote, multiple times.
You should stop projecting too, that's not healthy.
LOL

>>721150338
Actually, scratch that
>*click*
Now I close the thread and won't get an alert when you reply back with your blood boiling and your mouth foaming because for all intents and purposes I got the last words. Oopsies! Sounds like you got outplayed. AGAIN.

Remember to say hi when I cross over your mind later, prettyboy.

>>721150519
>He's now mind broken over the fact that nuclear power is a shit alternative.
You should really calm down.

>>721132945 (OP)
The water usage is going to be insane

>>721148017
>No longer have drinkable water to own the banks

>>721150604
Why would the workers there be thirstier than anywhere else?

>>721149737
PROCESSING UNIT THIRSTY
PROCESSING UNIT WANT DRINK WATER

>>721132945 (OP)
The fearmongering over this shit is so ridiculously, retardedly overblown.
This shit still uses fuck-all energy compared to literally any actual industrial manufacturing.

>>721150672
AI COMPUTER PROCCESSING UNIT THRISTY
AI COMPUTER PROCCESSING UNIT DEMANDS 200 METRIC TONS OF SEWER WATER