Thread 721200967

You did use the bath/shower mechanic, right?

>>721200967 (OP)
This is the tier of discussion where maybe it's time to get a general.

>>721201109
There is literally a showering mechanic in the game to remove debuffs like the maggot bile. It's a gameplay question. I want to discuss videogames on the videogame board, is that ok pseudojanny?

i went through the bath once because theres no reason to come back

My granddaughter says the void keeps eating her pale beings so I asked how many pale beings she has and she said she just goes to neighboring kingdoms to get a new pale being afterwards so I said it sounds like she's just feeding pale beings to the void and then my daughter started laughing.

why does the void hate pale beings? does it wanna build a harem or something

>>721200967 (OP)
A free full heal and silk recovery is simply too nice to give up as long as you're in the area. Glad I beat the shit out of Kratt so that he'd be too afraid to charge me ever again.

I 100% the game and now im feeling like replaying but on beeline mode.

>>721201245 i went through it a few times cuz it's the safest path for the courier quest

The internet is funny because you can see people discuss Lace child cope, abortion rape allegory and pale king mpreg in real time

>unlock shaman crest
>attacks are now ranged
>longclaw works
i can never go back

Bad mom...

>>721201251
It doesn't, it's just hungry

oh fuck this

>>721201583
when I was redoing this for the speedrunner cheevo those FUCKING CUNTS that threw the little balls caused me more trouble than anything else, had to switch over to the silk spear to one shot them

>>721201251
Yes

i just got infected by the bud but since i already got the soul from the hermit he wont give me any new info regarding the physician
annoying

Last two fleas, no idea how to get to them.
Also, what's up with the skull on the left wall in upper marrow?

>>721201109
This garbage game will be forgotten in a few weeks, until the next DLC in 2030

Flea juggling tips?

>>721201817
Top flea: Entrance in whisp ticket
Bottom flea: Entrance in the bellbeast room
>Skull
You get there during the witch quesy

I didn't finish act 1 and I'm really feeling what they say about this game being tedious. What do I need to clear a mini path of pain to fix a bench?

>>721200967 (OP)
HE’S DROWNING

Gonna be honest, talking to the old conductor for the song got me good. Helpless old man on literal life support, completely defeated, knowing that his kingdom might likely be done for.

Chud hornet jpg unrelated.

>>721200967 (OP)
I'm a straight guy but Sherma is cuter than any girl in the Hollow Knight games, fight me.

>>721200967 (OP)
why yes

>>721201962
Witch quest? I've beaten the game but never encountered a "witch"

>>721201904
Personally I used reaper and longclaw, and stayed grounded until there was a flea brew or fat fuck I had to jump for.

>>721201904
Use Wanderer, don't jump, dash a lot, take note of what order they enter in and always hit them in that order, apparently you can direct what way they go when you hit them but it's not needed, they never go that off course. Also don't bother with charms as they don't work

who was it again that offers the best deal for rosary beads

Do you get anything for get rid of all the Void Masses?

>>721202010
>Helpless old man on literal life support
At first I thought he was just weaving something or something similar, but the second he started talking and I saw the spent spools littered all over it fucking hit me like a brick.

Chud Hornet jpg appreciated.

>path of pain
>but gayer and lamer

>>721200967 (OP)

Unravelled would be significantly more tolerable if spears didn't do 2 masks

>>721202356
why do retards desperately try to find every small section of parkour in the game and compare it to PoP?
PoP literally has an official name to it, there is nothing similar to it in Silksong. The difficulty is spread throughout the game

>>721202195
w-what's she doing to him? with him?

>>721202195
HORNET NO!
HE'S JUST AN INNOCENT LITTLE BOY

>>721202356
why the fuck would you use reaper here

>>721202356
I don't think Silksong can have a path of pain. The umbrella float and the clawline make platforming so easy once you learn to use the clawline, it'd have to be very fast or time-limited to be a challenge.

>>721202207
Remember the root worm in the shellwoods?. Her quest has a second part, but you need to find an item around the ducts first ( I think it was around the ducts, cant remember now)

Am I supposed to do the courier deliveries to get Act 3? How do I know what's missing?

>>721202705
It's actually in bilewater when entered from music room

>>721202341
There's a quest for that which gives a mask shard.

>>721201510
Grandmom*

are any of the act 3 side quests kino? thinking about just doing the hearts main quest

Here we are boys. May the cogfly be with me.

>Hunter journal entry for Garmond and Zaza is missable if you upgrade the Songclave too early.
Fuck this gay shit.

>>721201182
>showering to remove maggots
Only shower I've found was in the citadel spa. You'd have to purposefully skip like 5 benches to get from any maggot water to there. That seems really pointless

>>721202730
I did only the courier's rasher and still got act 3, didn't do any of the others.

>>721202845
No.

>>721202229
>don't jump
Jumping lets you preempt and reorder them. It works well.

I don't know if I'm going to beat Silksong before Silent Hill and Ghost of Yotei drop, and I plan to play those instead because Silksong fucking sucks. It's so goddamned long and most of that is due to it being a long, tedious pain in the ass to do anything. Boss fights are cool though. Just stumbled onto Phantom and killed his ass. Then I went back to wandering through vomit swamp land and remembered again that this game fucking sucks.

LET HIM GO

>>721202730
Flea Caravan has to move to the lake. If you did that and still don't have the quest in Songlcave, then clear more request board stuff. The non-repeatable deliveries might count too.

Coral castle SUCKED
also rune rage is so feast or famine it isn't funny.
Also I need a new controller or something to fix my current one.

>>721202982
>Ghost of Yotei

>>721202982
so the people complaining about silksong are just AAA-consuming normalfags?

>>721202540
Gotta teach 'em early.

>>721202998
Kek you can get cogflies eaten? Funny.

>>721203091
I play ALL games that interest me, faggot, I just didn't realize the 7 year dev time was to make one of the most boring fucking walkathons ever.

>less than 1/3 of players got a bellhome
Damn shame.

>>721202982
act 2 is a slog, ignore the haters, act 3 is the real kino

>>721202928
you can tell there's something spiritually wrong with these devs that they included this shit

>>721202950
Why would you want to reorder them, that'd just throw off the rhythm, I also think you'd lose too much time spent doing it to get to others quick enough unless you're super precise

>>721203194
>phantom
>act 2

>>721203185
don't like half of players get fileted by last judge

>>721201904

I fucking hated this minigame and fumbled it like a retard, then came back later and aced it.

Advice is quite simple - use Shaman Crest because it has easily the best attack due to its range and lingering hitbox.
Don't do anything fancy like jumping to attack or anything, your just going to expend effort to fuck yourself over.
Stay on the ground and dash left and right and attack up at paced moments - this ensures a steady rhythm at all times and makes it like 10x less stressful. Watch out for the wildcards and remember you will need to juggle four in a row at about 30 in, so prepare for that.

If you don't overthink, it becomes laughably easy. At least that's the case for getting the Pale Oil, for beating Seth's scores there's the big dog and other fleas that get involved.

>leaps out of the swamp
>throws two explosive poison darts at you
>leaps backwards if you try to close the gap
>disappears back into the water before you can get him
Problem, outsider?

>>721202010
>>721202353
At first I was really afraid of accidentally attacking and breaking the spool of silk in the room. After I was done talking to him I tried it intentionally and found you can't

>>721203194
Don't ever fucking reply to me again.

>>721203198
They're just copying the edgy Dark Souls storytelling.

>>721203174
>games that interest me
>slop
kek

what in the actual fuck
I first tried her (and I think I bugged the game cause the cogfly killed her as she grabbed me lmao)

>>721201904
knock them all into the same side so you don't have to be constantly dashing back and forth like an idiot, after that it becomes piss easy.

>>721203273
At least Sherma gets a happy ending. He becomes pope.

>>721203252
>if only Hornet had a specific move to quickly leap to an enemy...

>>721202532
>>721202540
the citadel wills it
you wouldn't argue with the will of the citadel, right anons?

>>721203252
Love these little niggers like you wouldn't believe

>>721202307
140 for 120 is in Bellhart, others charge 80 for 60.

If I made a tier list of the top 10 most forgettable bosses silk song must top most of them. What the fuck is going all with all these garbage bosses with 2 attack animations and 0 rewards in the middle of nowhere

I absolutely, super, super love the game and I can't see that changing.
But I am starting to feel a tad demoralized.

I'm at 99% completion.
And as far as I can tell, all I am missing is a single Shardillard. One tool. And one Memory Locket.

The day was moderately successful today otherwise.
I completed the entire Hunter's Journal aside from the final Shardillard. I found a hidden bench I hadn't found which surprised me.
I found the final two relics I hadn't found.
I found an additional Memory Locket even though I'm presumably still missing another.
And I found a hidden connection between Greymoor and the Silkeater friend, that I am surprised I hadn't found sooner but that connection seems really cool and useful.

But now I've spent most of the day with zero progress whatsoever. Nothing found of any kind. That kind of stings.
Though to be perfectly honest. I do enjoy these kinds of hunts. So it's not really like I'm not enjoying myself still. Though I'd be lying if I said it wasn't starting to feel heavier. But that wouldn't stop me from enjoying it still.
What's starting to feel demoralizing if anything, is that I am starting to worry that I might not actually 100% the game before Hades 2 1.0 drops.
And returning to Pharloom after having spent countless of hours in Hades 2, will probably be more difficult than it is currently. In terms of my awareness of the world map more than anything.

Oh well. I've got three things to find as far as I am aware. So I've got almost two days left for each thing. Maybe I shouldn't worry too much too soon.

>>721203228
Is there a secret Act 2? I've been in Act 2 for a while now, I only just now stumbled onto the guy because I got 2 out of the 3 "Please play us our really fucking gay ancestral song" main quest and started exploring areas I missed before heading towards what I assume is the normie end of the game. If I'm expected to 100% all of these bullshit fetch quests just to access the final act then I guess I'm not playing it, it's too fucking boring.
>please Hornet, PLEASE, go collect more RANDOM SHIT for our WISH board
Obnoxious, stupid, mind numbing dogshit. Bosses are cool though.

>>721202307

Always cash-in at Bellhart, everyone else is scamming you.

Tormented Trobbio makes base Trobbio seem pleasant. My patience was all used up on the lava escape and now this emo is making me dodge that fucking tornado while he fills the screen with explosions that trap me in.

>>721203454
awooga

>>721203454
kek

>>721203481
i mean, i'm convinced the only reason people can remember half of hollow knight's bosses is because of godhome and not because they're memorable.

I got the worst version of silkshot and I'm pissed. Didn't know there were variations and assumed logically architect could fix it. Reeeeeee

>>721203485
phantom is an act 1 boss. Part of the alternative route to the citadel.

>>721203304
>Silksong
>Slop
Correct. Thus my complaint, retard. Bamboozled by this garbage, bamboozled by Death Stranding 2. Only good game this year has been E33, maybe SH or Yotei be good, maybe not. The bamboozling continues.
>>721203260
Stfu imposter anon, you gay fag.

>>721203481
True but to be fair this was Hollow Knight's problem too. Most of the dream bosses of that game were shit.

Your honest opinion on the flea mini games?

>>721203482
only the tool should count for your 100%.

>>721203603
dude just stop, you've already embarrassed yourself enough

>>721203619
Frustrating, especially Dodge, but they're too cute to get that mad about it.

>>721203619
Juggle and bounce are skill related.
Dodge is RNG.

>>721200967 (OP)
When do you see him in the bath house? I just got the third song and I still haven't found him there.

>>721203598
Yeah I know he can be accessed via Act 1, I got to him late. Or am I secretly in Act 1 despite the game having told me I'm in Act 2?

>>721203540
>>721203615
At least they gave money

>>721203628
Really? Why wouldn't the other stuff count? That's kind of dumb.
Well. I'll be hunting for all of it if I can. Though currently I'm struggling to find any of it. But I'm not giving up.

>>721203619
Would've been better having them spaced out through the game instead of an all at once thing
They're fun, but I only did them 1-3 times each for the oil

>>721203319
This is what clinched it for me as well. It went from impossible to "i could do this all day" when I did that.

>>721203736
There's 3 acts.

>>721203619
I have a personal issue with dodge, the other two have low enough requirements that I don't consider them a problem even if I don't love them either. I won't even try to compete with Seth's scores.

>>721203570
I wish you could get all three and then just switch firing modes at a bench.

>>721203670
>Dude stop shitting on the slop that is Silksong
No, my point stands. This game is tedious trash, impressively so. I like the combat and boss fights and artwork, it is the absolute fucking waste of time between those things that suck. Indefensible shit.

The charges, officer?

>>721203482
The tool is all that matters for 100 percent, I got 100 without getting all memory lockets or completing the hunter's journal

>>721202229
>>721202950
>>721203204
I found it very helpful to use jumps for the two special types of fleas. So you can get rid of those threats more quickly.
For the rest, just stay on the ground.

>>721203751
i dunno, but i tried maxxing my tools and charms before i did hunter's journal and all memory lockets, and then eva gave me her final blessing despite not having the last 2 memory lockets, and it bumped up to 100%. maybe they thought it was unnecessary to force you to complete quite literally everything for 100%?

>>721203518
Literally just pogo him, anon.

Climbing bilewater was a lot of fun honestly, but the lack of bench makes me fear that the devs put some fucking bullshit boss/gauntlet that will completely override the fun element.
The fake bench I think was unnecessary. The area has enough bullshit as is.

>>721203619
Very fun and silly. I got the high scores on all of them without even knowing that I'd get Pale Oil as a prize.

having to pay for the bench in mount fey is so fucking cruel man. i'm not masochistic enough for this game

>>721202982
>Ghost of Yotei

Cringe

>>721203481

Most of Hollow Knight's bosses were forgettable. Off the top of my head I can remember Mantis Lords, Soul Master, Nox, Hollow Knight and The Radiance. I think that's genuinely it.

Silksong has a different problem in that its generic bosses are complete shit which then look even worse next to Phantom, Lace, First Sinner, Widow, Cogwork Dancers and Trobbio who are all incredibly fair and fun fights. The big robot is also kinda underrated for what he is at the time he appears. The dream fights are sort of cool then ruined by being behind shitty gimmicks or gauntlets.
The entire boss roster should have been cut in half and most of the fights upgraded to the level that the Weaver fights are - they don't need to be Vergil duels they just need to not suck dick.

>>721203820
Oh, and also forgot to mention, there really should be direct fast travel to Fleatopia.

>>721203857
Left and right in a straight line, I'm afraid.

>>721203898
>the lack of bench makes me fear that the devs put some fucking bullshit boss/gauntlet that will completely override the fun element.

>>721201251
The void hates everything and everyone and will kill everyone if allowed. It can only be tamed by Little Ghost, the abyssal God of Violence.

>>721203898
There is a hidden real bench.

>>721203908
How do you not have a bunch of rosaries stocked up?

>>721203252
I just parry the darts and whack him

Pale oil distribution through the game fucking sucks

>>721203898
>the lack of bench makes me fear that the devs put some fucking bullshit boss/gauntlet that will completely override the fun element.

>>721203913
>Off the top of my head I can remember Mantis Lords, Soul Master, Nox, Hollow Knight and The Radiance.
Imagine forgetting Grimm or Hornet.

>>721203898
bilewater is literally one extra bench away from getting 96% of all its complaints washed away.

>>721201817
how did you get the flea marks? or is it a mod

I’m blasting through Silksong way faster than Hollowknight not sure what all these YouTubers are crying about.

Your supposed to be acrobatic during combat instead of static why can’t they grasp this?

>>721203908
Most of the time when there's a pay bench in the middle of nowhere, there's also a secret bead pile in the same room or one room over. Also buy more necklaces.

>>721204069
honestly it'd still be one of the worst areas, just not the single worst one anymore.

>>721204079
There's an NPC in act 3 who'll sell you flea locations.

>>721203898
>but the lack of bench makes me fear that the devs put some fucking bullshit boss/gauntlet that will completely override the fun element.

Taking my Steel Soul run nice and slow. I'm finally totally done with Bilewater.

>>721203570
Are any versions of it even worth using? I took it to Forge Daughter and didn't feel like it did anything to justify the silk cost over other tools.

>>721203898
It's honestly not that bad of a boss. The gauntlet is worse than the actual boss.

>>721204151
so it's just a normal run but with quitting out

>>721204092
>Your supposed to be acrobatic during combat instead of static
Kek no you're not. Every boss fight is just standing in one place and slightly shifting out of the way to punish an attack. Being acrobatic or aggressive gets you killed every time.

>>721204123
i like how disagreeable it is, it's like the deepnest equivalent in that it's huge and it makes you wanna get out, but deepnest had more moments of respite while bilewater is much more punishing and in an annoying way.

>>721204131
You can find her in Act 2. Also all fleas are gettable in Act 2.

>>721204069
And ruin all the fun the devs have seeing people cry in social media?

>>721204079
There's an NPC that marks them if you pay. She's hidden in the Puttrified Ducts

>>721204204
the mount fay version 2 taps common citadels enemies and pierces

>>721204131
>>721204079
You can find the NPC in act 2. Explore the far right of Putrefied Ducts. Above the clean water lake.

>>721203994
Because everything costs money?

>>721204221
the devs absolutely intended for bilewater to annoy the fuck out of everybody

>>721204216
By slow I mean I'm only playing a little bit every day instead of marathoning because I don't want to get tired and sloppy like in my normal playthrough sometimes.

I seriously regret not giving wanderer's quest a chance early on. The first time I touched it was 50 hours into the game. It's so fucking good, I love the speed.

Is there a lore reason as to why GMS is so hot

>>721204109
yeah, the bench costs 60 and you got 25 from the hidden room

>hey do a rematch but this time you can't see the boss because 90% of the screen is covered in ink
well that was a shit final boss

>>721204297 (You)

>>721204232
as much as i enjoy all the bitching online (especially when it comes attached with a clip of their dogshit gameplay), there are a handful of things i think are very valid criticism dragging the game down, and bilewater being such a time waster is definitely is one of them.

One of my main criticisms for this game is the reward distribution. It really feels like 90% of the rewards are in act 2. Most people won't even get a full mask upgrade by the end of act 1, while act 2 has all but 1 of the mask upgrades. you get 1 nail upgrade in act 1, and can get 2 in a row back to back in act 2. Most bosses don't really drop anything, they just block the way. I had the same 3 crests for like 99% of the game. I personally was also just stuck with 3 crests for 99% of the game and then just got architect, witch, beast basically back to back.
I think if stuff was more evenly distributed it would feel better.

At least they are in an area you only yave to visit like 2 times

>>721202618
because reaper has the best pogo for platforming

>>721204204

I don't know about "worth using" but most people agree the Railgun is the best, simply by virtue of it not being similar to another tool you will already have. It's also solid in its own right.

The Silk Cost isn't really an issue when using at low silk, and isn't an issue on Architect Plasmium setups where your silk doesn't matter.

>>721204329
can't she pick a form like the pale king? I'd choose to be hot too. The real question is why did the Saw enjoyer chose to be a buglet.

>>721204329
If there is, I hope to learn it thoroughly.

>>721204404
Wrong.

You will all remember Bilewater fondly once the gameplay frustration wears off and it becomes a memory. It's atmospheric, has great environmental storytelling, and really nice music. Also the Stilkin are literally 4channers. A once decent place that's been turned into a shithole by outside influence, and now the denizens are eternally bitter lunatics whose hatred for outsiders is unending.

Maybe pale beings just need more sun?

>>721202705
I'm pretty sure I know how to cleanse this affliction, but I'm curious; has anyone beaten the last boss with the affliction active? If so, does it change anything?

>>721204221
Jumping around like a spastic has gotten me through most of the game

I disagree but I respect your opinion

>>721204491
it gives an alt ending, yeah

>>721204131
>There's an NPC in act 3 who'll sell you flea locations.
I'm pretty sure you can't go to act 3 without that NPC, right? AT least for me they didn't move until I found that NPC.

I really didn't mind bilewater, people just need to separate "exploration" from "boss fights" builds, or at least mentality.
I simply accepted the worms and explored everything without caring. I changed build for the boss sure but the runback to him isn't particularly difficult when you have the secret bench and you only need to rememebr about the hookshot to avoid worms.

>>721204359
i think they need to shuffle some of the upgrade positions around. it feels like for example the charms they give you early on are the kind of charms in hollow knight that they'd give you towards the end to experiment with dumb shit, while the genuinely useful stuff that was in the early game in hollow knight (like the charms that extend your nail/needle's range) are now super late into the game.

can the plot of this game be summed up as Lace accidently kills her mum?

>>721204509
Fuck, guess I'll have to git gud

>>721204457
The atmosphere is nice and the first climb is fun
The boss gauntlet is fucking bullshit and completely ruins the area

ok there's two guys on the ceiling so to heal i just need to hop out and then hit them once and then dash back and wait fuck ohfuck wai

WHERE THE FUCK IS ASS JIM, MY NAIL IS SHIIIIIT

>>721204329
Built to carry Ghost's children.

every time a quest takes me back to shitewater I want to quit the game

>>721204569
You can pogo over almost all her attacks, use the hookshot to reposition as needed.

Why did Team Cherry do it

>>721204359
I wish every boss gave at least a heart piece. There's too many fights with shit rewards. Father of the Flame is totally pointless. Widow is one of the only fights that feels rewarding.

Lost Lace was a shit true final boss.

Just a reskin with the gay ass copypasted Void moves

>get pale oil
>blacksmiht now charges shekels too
come the fuck on bro

>>721204457
It's visually boring, honestly.
Music is nice though

>>721204509
Anon, he said last boss.

>>721201251
The Void seems seem to hate the Radiance because they've been ancient enemies, and might also hate the Pale King because of the vessel project.
But I don't think the Void hates godlike creatures in general without a reason, it's just always hungry and godlike creatures are a feast.

>>721204559
The plot of this game can be summarized the same way the plot of Hollow knight could
Higher being throws a baby tantrum and fucks everything up

Lost Lace was the shit true final boss.

Just a reskin with gay ass

>>721204297
Yeah that seems about right if you're only looking at them in a vacuum. Once you consider how they interconnect that list would look a lot different.

>>721204783
Someone got filtered. She's a fun fight

>>721204712
>don't have the money on hand
>HOW DARE YOU DEPRIVE A CRAFTMAN OF THIS OPPORTUNITY

>>721204725
idgi

Does she say something different if you deliver the stuff with his mask on, he's a bit weirder like that so probably wouldn't lead to this

>yuritroon has dogshit taste
Surprise, surprise.

>>721204427
He's small so he can build his contraptions better.

>>721204698
I think maybe having 4 silk hearts total, where two are gatherable as parts from several bosses (instead of just 1 whole from unraveled) would have been a good idea. Or keep 3 and split the first one over several bosses instead of a drop you just find, idk.

>>721204725
>find you
should be "Found you" dumb esl. I liked the idea though.

>>721204457
Their shells are ours. Their souls are ours. Our hate is forever.

in retrospect, the "after a great fall, Hornet wheezes and limps cinematically for 20 seconds before resuming as if nothing happened" moments were awkwardly executed

>>721204815
Didn't get filtered.
I just found it a lazy final boss, especially compared to how cool Radiance was

>>721204979
I didn't even understand what the point was. It's especially awkward if you die during it.

>>721204393
I decided to forgive my initial hatred of the barnacles after finding out their grab does no damage and they also eat the crackhead aspids.

>>721202857
I've seen several different theories for what makes the Garmond fight impossible to trigger. I've heard it's obtaining the High Halls song fragment or beating the gauntlet preceding it, I've heard it's fully upgrading songclave, and the wiki says that repairing Second Sentinel is what does it. I'm honestly kind of amazed that we're two weeks in and still nobody seems to know for certain.

>>721204725
>Needle + Violin
I thought it was a Mandolin.

>>721204979
Yeah the cinematic "walk slowly for a bit" things were both pointless and shit.

>>721204547
>only need to rememebr about the hookshot to avoid worms.

I still have not managed to get out of that bench area without hitting the water.

>>721204979
I hate this trope so much. Every game that does it must be destroyed.

>>721204980
We never got a
>so I'm supposed to fight the sun moment
and it's such a shame
In the end that's still the peak of the series

>>721201109
Please anything but a purge to /vg/, the threads would be nothing but yurishit fanart dumps.

>>721204979
I think she's supposed to be feeling the effects of the Haunting. She's strong enough to resist but it probably hurts like a motherfucker.

>>721203857
>FOR WHAT CRIME?
>A SUCCULENT MEAL?
>A SUCCULENT PHARLO-
>TAKE YOUR HAND OFF MY PENIS!

>pogo in SS magnetizes you to whatever you hit if it isn't a spike
>this makes platforming more consistent but makes me constantly take damage pogo'ing off of enemies
hate this shit.

>>721205096
claw while standing on edge, then double jump immediately after pull.

>>721204979
I immediately thought of Halo 3 and how fucking dogshit it was there, too.

I am playing through the first Hollow Knight for the second time since 2019.

And I think after you get the Voidheart, the Knight's horns should've grown a bit to look slightly like the silhouette of the Shade Lord. I think a lot of people don't realize the Knight and the Shade Lord are the same entity is because the Knight's baby horns are kind of shit and look nothing like the shape of the Shade Lord.

>>721203619
I enjoyed them.

>>721204643
well she was complaining about not having kids, and Radiance was bitching about not having followers. so Ghost solves 2 problems in one swoop

>>721205223
I've tried but I end up in the water anyway.

It doesn't matter, I beat Groal on like the second try.

>>721204204
The railgun version from Mount Fay is probably the easiest way to kill the Steel Soul exclusive boss due to its range, good damage and it requiring barely any silk against a boss that doesn't give silk on nail hits. Just slap on weavelight and pew it to death from the other side of the arena.

>>721204979
>>721205031
I rationalized they put them there just in order to foreshadow when she falters in front of the chapel maiden.

>>721203234
>make a casual filter
>gatekeeps the citadel
>the last judge
bravo team cherry

>>721205392
beast crest and the fire bell thing completely trivialize this fight btw

>>721204979
It's just to show that she got metroided. I don't get the big deal people make about it

>>721204979
That reminds me, who broke the spell on her cage at the beginning of the game, when the butterfly landed on it?

>>721205516
Lace.

>>721205504
>name our band!

>>721205516
Lace

>>721205508
>I don't get the big deal people make about it
Because the game makes a big deal about it as if it'll affect gameplay, but then the awkward phase just ends and she can sprint and jump and fight without any weakness.

>>721205392
Only like 3/4 of players beat lace 1, so I just think a lot of people bought into the hype but didn't actually like a soulslike metroidvania.

favorite crest? I just got reaper and I think I'm gonna like it.

>>721204457
I remember looking at the gameplay footage they had of Bilewater a few months ago and thinking to myself "haha, this part of the game is going to be absolutely cancerous and rage-inducing" I am really enjoying exploring it for now desu

>>721203898
>but the lack of bench makes me fear that the devs put some fucking bullshit boss/gauntlet that will completely override the fun element.

>>721204427
He chose to be small so that all the hot women would be twice his size or more.

>>721205682
When I realized that Wanderer had Hollow Knight's old pogo, there was no going back.

>>721201748
The barkeep also gives the hint.

>>721205609
>as if it'll affect gameplay,
It does. It illustrates that hornet has been weakened and you shouldn't expect her to move like she did back in hollow knight.

>>721204687
How else are they suppose to show her and GMS are related other than giving them fat asses?

>>721205392
>>721205626
Those are not low numbers for achievements, there's always a natural drop-off, pick any game and even when there's an achievement for the first 5 minutes it won't be 100% or even 95%

>>721205682
I hunter'd 90% of the game but swapped to witch just for a vergil meme build and I've been enjoying it.

>>721205682
I eventually just got hooked on Hunter because of the focus.

>>721205682

Reaper never stops being good, it just works.

Architect is still my favourite due to being able to blow the game's balance to bits, it's outrageously fun.

I really wish Witch and Shaman were better.

>>721205824
when do you get the 2nd permaslot?

>>721205626
yeah for sure, tourists visiting the current big thing
even when a game is easy and extremely popular, the numbers just drop off a cliff

>>721205626
The thing with Lace 1 is it's completely optional, and disappears later in the game if you skip it.

>>721205884
it's based on how many memory lockets you've used, think it was around 15?

>>721205120
That's what these threads are becoming, and will entirely be within the week, these are getting very close to their expiration date for new games. You should welcome their banishment to /vg/ and enjoy HK discussion in the occasional metroidvania thread where we all bitch about PS2 Castlevania.

>>721205817
this is Silksong's dropoff

>>721202356
this is the real path of pain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6XjSykAb_8

did I fuck myself out of this if I already got to act 3?

>>721202356
at least we get healing stations made of burrowing worms

>>721205682
Wanderer for ultra fast slashes, old pogo and RNG critical hits that can oneshot mooks or deal heavy damage to bosses.

>>721205965
Yes.

>>721202906
It would be fucking stupid if taking a bath did not clean you. Faggot.

>>721205682
Wanderer, it's the most honest one. The lower range means more emphasis on spacing and positioning. It also has less blue and red slots which are crutch slots that weaker players use to make up for their lack of skill.

>>721205965
Yep

>>721205987

Why are you attempting this without Plasmium Regen?

>>721204979
This should have happened with the witch parasite but you can also hear it gurgling and squirming around inside her lol

>>721202356
>do the same jump 20 times

I feel like content wise this game could have been half the length without losing anything except tedium.

Rate my blind exploration so far. I have avoided what looks like the point of no return in the center of the Citadel and have begun going back over places. I discovered Whisp Thicket yesterday, this game really rewards my slow playstyle of checking every corner. The only area I think I was spoiled on is I know there's another level to the right of Greymoor as I saw some of the entire map in a thread before clicking out. Also just random "does this work" experimentation like using the fire needle tool pauses your ice buildup while active in Mt Fay. I've really really enjoyed the game so far.

>>721204329

Because Silksong is few millimeters away from being a h-game

>>721205682
I used Reaper through most of the game.

>>721206075
yep

>>721204698

Father of the Flame felt out of place but as a fight it was totally based and one of few gimmick bosses I actually enjoyed

>>721205884
>>721205940
scratch that, it's total tool slots unlocked, so finding more crests also counts towards our progress.

>>721206082
>found the secret shortcut in mosshome
Good job finding the most hidden silk spool in the game anon.

>>721205957
Also, this is the largest raw player number dropoff. Would be interesting to see a percentage graph as well, where we see what what is the largest dropoff when compared with the previous stage player count (as in, going from 0.6% to 0.3% is a 50% dropoff).

>>721206040
because you wouldn't know about it unless you looked it up like a collossal faggot

>>721202618
what's wrong with reaper here?
I only played hunter all game, but in that section I kept dying around where op in the webm does so I switched to reaper since it has the biggest and easiest to land pogo and made it first try

>>721203315
you are the cogfly now
that little guy's short life just got a lot silkier

>>721206082
looks gr8 m8 i r8 8/8

>>721205682
Can't make up my mind between Hunter, Beast, Witch, and Wanderer.

>>721206227

You genuinely think that a person wouldn't try stacking as much blue health as possible to see what happens?

You mean you never tried yourself?

>>721206228
Reaper pogo is too slow, you risk getting hit before the bounce. If you struggle with Hunter's pogo, use Wanderer.

>>721206295
>You mean you never tried yourself?
nta but nope.

>>721205154
Ah. I see you know your pogo well.

game is more frustrating than fun, yet im still playing it

>>721205274
Either the Shade Lord wasn't yet conceptualized back in the base game or they wanted to keep the design consistent in case it ever became iconic (and that it did, Knight with his dumb baby horns is the first thing that comes to people's minds when they think of modern metroidvanias)
Also the Shade Lord's top horns do resemble the Knight's a bit, hinting they're both one and the same and later 100% being confirmed in Silksong.

>>721206295
isn't that only possible with architect crest anyway?

>>721204221
Deepest feels longer than really is the first time you do it and then after you get the map you're wondering how it felt so big

What makes the curvesicle better than curveclaw?

>>721203198
Why?

>>721205092
>I thought it was a Mandolin
Desu it's a harp, but mandolin was the closest portmanteau pun they could come up with

>>721206474
better damage, more charges.

FUCK I wish we still had the full coral area and the scrapped barnacle bay.

>>721206295
I only know about it from here, never even touched Architect, it's stupid to assume that if you're dying on platforming the average person is going to just figure it out It's also stupid to die on that part at all because as he even mentioned there's infinite Silk generating centipedes

I went back to godhome after beating silksong and I miss my throwing move and float.

>that diving bell with door shut tight at the lowest Deep Docks room

Immediately reminded me of this scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYg8rEDT1RU

>>721202618
because it works

>>721205682
if I never touched wanderer then it'd be a tossup between witch and architect, but after wanderer everything feels like handicapping myself

>>721206295
>You mean you never tried yourself?
eh, no?

>>721205682
After unlocking Hunter's focus, I saw no benefit to any of the other ones that could match it.

>>721202010
we don't know how complicit he was in the frankly nightmarish conditions of living under the citadel rule. Conductors seem to run things from both a military angle (all the enemies native to the citadel are named after musical terms and a conductor arranges an orchestra)
So while yes his condition is sad he could be an absolute fucking monster who loves to commit several war crimes before afternoon tea every day. Very few if any of the people actually involved in the running if the Citadel are Nice Guys.

>>721206214
that was the last one i was missing as well

>>721206339
hunter is fine most of the time, except when having to pogo only
reaper is big and easy to connect, and it's easy enough to get high over those floating bugs to not get hit
also used witch for pogoing the flea challenge, but that didn't work well for the climb to the surface because of the no heal thing
wanderer I played enough in the first game, didn't want to go back to it
the others have worse pogo than hunter

>>721206524

I bet they'll be DLC that were cut because they didn't fit well with the other regions. Maybe we'll see them in a dream sequence (Sands of Karak area in its prime) or something similar.

>>721200967 (OP)
I'm about to enter act 2 and i only found 4 mask shards? Is that enough? I've been careful to explore as much as possible and it feels like i should have more.

>>721206752
Wanderer still puts out more damage

>>721206593
>all these anons not knowing about walldashes
>reaperfags being terrible at platforming
>>721206820
yeah act 1 is barren as fuck when it comes to masks for some reason.

>>721206593
Why do you have footage of my ptsd?

I forgot you literally break off a chunk of a bug's shell for the Slab map.

All the padding and difficulty on the game made me not appreciate the lore and setting. I was too focused on the gameplay I ignored everything else.

>>721206786
I listen in a thread a few days ago about how I was missing a single silk spool and without any other info another anon just told me “go to mosshome”. He was 100% right.

im assuming there is something specific i have to do to get to the cogwork core area

*shaw*

>>721205996
Why would you ever bother finding out, when sitting on a bench or just healing also cleanses you and doesn't take a 10 minute detour while avoiding doing either of those two actions.

>>721204491
>>721204739
Turns out it changes nothing
https://youtu.be/yJDUWtfACHE?si=Pf3Vb0bHmvzpRrSC&t=288

>>721204123
I don't think it's a bad area. The worst part is the fucking bush guys that completely ruin any chances to dash through the place, but aside from that, Bilewater makes the player use all of the tools they've come to know, and once you get into the rhythm it's pretty fun.
But again, there's no need for it to be this oppressive. Team Cherry might get off watching people cry about genuine skill issues, like last judge, moorfly or savage beast, but the lack of a bench closer to Groal is a genuine issue.

A boss's runback also counts as part of the bossfight, and the worst part about Groal, is literally just the runback.

>>721204427
He was colossal in his more natural form so he went the full opposite to not intimidated his subjects.

>>721206820
The main thing you want for Act 2 is a Tool called the Fractured Mask.
If you don't have that yet, either prepare your anus, or get to searching.

>>721206214
>>721206786
Where the fuck is it and how early can you get it, my last spool was near the Craw place, I bet I got the one you're talking about real early cause I don't remember going back to Mosshome much

>>721205682
Wanderer for almost everything, the fast slashes and downward pogo just feel good. I do occasionally use Architect if I don't like a boss and just want to blitz them with tools.

So whats the best Shaman loadout?
Just Spool Extender, the flea thing and/or Volt Filament and/or longclaw?
With Speed Anklets because the game is literally unplayable without em.

And i'm guessing Thread Storm, Pale Nails, maybe the parry?
I really wish this thing would have at least one yellow slot on its own

>>721206968
No. You can't actually face the boss when cursed, that game is modded.

>>721206961
grime was parry kino
misbegotten amalgam and dreamborn terror were just great

I just got the architect crest and hell yes. I'm excited to really get into throwing fucking everything as long as my shards hold out
It's wild that it gives you another red tool instead of your silk skill. Gonna take some getting used to but I love this drill

>>721206953
Beat the Dancers

>>721202540
>HE'S JUST AN INNOCENT LITTLE BOY
he's gonna become a man

>>721207156
He wouldn't know about it if he hadn't already, I bet he just missed the door like everyone else

tips for speedrunning the mist? the wraiths give me tons of issues...

So who imprisoned the Last Sinner? GMS, her Weaver sisters, or the triumvirate who ruled the Citadel after the Weavers?

>>721207156
i've already done that along with getting the other two melodies
so it's just pixel perfect platforming bullshit then i guess

>>721202857
it doesn't count for 100%

>>721207151
I wish I can get used to using Architect full time, but its' pogo is actually one of the worst.

FUCK Broodmother. Fuck this nigger shit boss. Why are 50% of the bosses in this game just clumsy fat bricks that randomly lurch around the screen and fuck me with contact damage, instead of actual warriors?

>>721207118
I'm replaying it for the first time since release, having played Sekiro and Nine Sols in the interim. It's certainly far easier now that I'm better with the parries but good lord is the movement stiff after Silksong.

Any boss that moves around on the ground gets absolutely shredded by these, and they work great for gauntlets too. Poison them, of course.

>>721207215
Sherma.

>>721207045
Volt Filament and Longclaw feels like must haves.
Weavelight is ok with 3 silk hearts because you can naturally regen 4 silk, which is enough for a spell, but playing that way is atrociously slow. I've seen suggestions of that flea charm that makes spells cheaper when you're full health but that feels like such a utopian playstyle

>>721207220
Drop in one of the holes after the dancers.
Keep going down and right until you see the cogs that move up and down.

>>721207045

Weavelight and 3 Silk Hearts gives you 4 Silk so you'll always be able to regen enough silk to cast a skill. The Flea tool is just shitty and it means you can't use Druid's Eyes which is easily better most of the time. Volt Filament is a lock.

I find Rune Rage is actually really good, you can cheese alot of stuff with it, and Pale Nails is just simple and quick ranged damage. For my third slot I go Thread Storm because its damage is insane.

Some people like Longclaw to maximise the range but I just don't see the value. I really do wish the Crest had more slots, it feels like its missing something.

>>721207045
Weavelight is better than the spool extender and flea charm for shaman. Also don't underestimate its charged attack. I use weavelight + volt filament + longclaw

>>721207246
I used these on Seth because he kept disappearing and I got fed up fighting him so I ran around in circles to get it over with. Niggas need to fix Seth.

>>721207236
You're literally getting hit by an attack used by the first boss in Hollow Knight, I thought people were joking when they said they had trouble with her but there's been too many at this point

>>721203315
I'm seein' double! Four Hornets!

>>721207201
>>721207390
just found it, thanks bugs

>>721206953
The upper half above the room with the main quest? There is a really obvious path nearby, might require a movement upgrade. I had a "oh, I didn't check or put a pin here?" moment myself.

What are the two enemies after crawfather in the journal? I’m also missing the thing that’s two after tormented trobbio

>>721203315
Somehow this fits into some r34 scenario.

>>721207242
it improved a lot from the release version. new content as well

>>721207432
>Why do you find it difficult to dodge the spikes of Absolute Radiance? Gorb threw spikes at you and he was easy!

>>721207207
pls i'm trying the speedrun achievement and i already died twice there...

Weird interaction but there is special dialogue if you give him the lacquer while his mask is knocked off.
Also, does pilby really survive into act 3? Someone said he shows up in the Citadel but I don't see him

>>721207430
Seth’s fight is fine. Did him without any tools to keep it fun. Nyleth I melted with tools because fuck that fight.

So does First Sinner imply that all the other statues you get powers from are actually mummified Weavers?

>>721205682
Architect for shitty gauntlets, Reaper for flying enemies and wanderer for everything else

>>721207045
This was my setup and it devastated everything

>>721207650
Yeah they are

>>721207538
Yeah, I saw a bunch of changes. If nothing else I'm glad that save-station teleports aren't NG+ only anymore, even if it kinda fucks the map design a little. Unfortunately it does seem like they made the classic mistake of making the DLC weapons OP as shit, which to get back on topic makes me fearful of Team Cherry doing the same with Silksong. Imagine a crest with five blues or some shit.

>>721207545
Gorb's spikes are different to a full-screen wave of them, Broodmother's wall slam attack is the same as the Gruz Mother's, at least I think so, I beat her first try so I don't remember much but I'm pretty sure it's the same up and down concept

>>721206474
larger hitbox methinks

>>721207596
>>721207207
They can only dash at specific diagonal angles up/down so once you understand that it becomes easier to bait them. Directly above/below them is a pretty safe place to be.

What the fuck was the deal with those rooms that looked like doorways in the weavernests? They didn’t do anything.

>>721207232
Yeah the fact that it's hunter but on a delay is pretty rough. But I've been depending on wanderer for so long i decided to not let my brain calcify and I'm riding this as hard as I can.
The fact that I can charge the pogo is actually really fascinating I feel i can use it to time out some attacks.

>>721207232
I'm the opposite. I can't imagine going back to using regular pogos that don't allow for midair offset charge time after using Architect for so long.

Even for platforming challenges, it's just so fat and gives ample time to think about your next inputs.

>>721207679
What do lucky dice actually do?

1st Silk Heart
>Our nature
>Our strength
>Our silk
>Child, Weaver
>Child, spider
>We feel it
>Arrived, at last
>Rise, rise
>Come, child. Witness our waking
All this time I thought this was referring to Hornet.
But it's about Lace.

this guy is insane dogshit, get in here. he has 2 masks by the time he gets to the boss arena
https://www.twitch.tv/spiritpsynsation

>almost 30 hours in
>still at 6 hp masks

>>721207783
Those are just Eva pods.

>>721207816
~10% chance to block incoming hits and allegedly improves wanderer's crit rate

>>721207816
Occasionally nullify damage, too rare to count on but nice when it procs

>>721207816
Randomly negates damage.
That 2 mask bodyslam? Didn't happen, faggot.

I have never used charged attacks ever. What are they supposed to be good for?

>>721207620
He literally kept disappearing. IDK wtf. If I ran around and never stopped he didn't disappear. It was weird as fuck.