Thread 722861554

>Dude, what if every boss had doubled speed and aggression, did 60 points of contact damage, and applied debuffs that can't be counteracted until mid-Hardmode lmao
>Dude, just build an arena for every single fight lmao
Expert mode is fucking terrible. These items aren't even worth it.

Terraria thread

sorry

>>722861554 (OP)
they need to nerf hardmode goblin invasion, it makes no sense to have a boss like that imediately after beating the wall of flesh

WHEN IS NEXT PATCH!?

sorry you can't facetank everything in cactus armor bro
maybe try actually upping your defense instead of just slapping menacing on everything

>>722862681
Skeletron still does 40+ damage per hit with Molten and an ironskin potion. Also he inflicts bleeding so lol lmao fuck all healing aside from potions (1 per minute rofl guffaw).

Sucks to suck, maybe stick to solitaire or bejeweled

>>722863140
sounds like a skill issue. just build thousands of wooden platforms, bro.

>>722862681
>getting my shit pushed in constantly
>forge everything to +4 armor
>trinkets with extra armor
>armor potion
>cat statue for armor buff
easy mode activated
now i only need to dodge the actual boss and all the projectile do single digit dmg instead of half my health
always nice to figure a game out

>>722863935
this plusan endurace potion and a worm scarf and you'll face tank just about everything except the obvious shit you are meant to dodge

>>722863935
I feel like this would be ass in Master Mode. I wouldn't know since I played Master Mode one time as a squishy mage

>>722861554 (OP)
>getting filtered by expert mode
>not even master mode
People like you shouldn't play video games
>>722864724
Focusing on defense is worthless in master mode. Its fine to invest a bit into it but you are better off getting more damage

>>722861554 (OP)
why do you treat the game like a boss rush

How the fuck do I beat Skeletron on Master mode

>>722862681
the only "difficulty" in the vanilla game is rolling the dice till you get the dodge/iframe gear
games a joke after that

my last play through was years ago and this time it was super easy to get the special chests in the dungeon area since you dont need to craft the keys anymore they just drop and they drop super often
like i got most of the keys just from exploring the game normally instead of building a little farm area with a water candle for more monster spawn and farming mobs for hours
kinda neat but did make those items feel less special

>>722866573
you build a platform and run back and forth, jumping to dodge his projectiles as necessary. You do want to be careful about building it too high, since if you do the projectiles might have enough space to loop back around instead of hitting the ground.
You usually want to build a second layer of platform just to have something to hook too to help get past him when you turn around.

>>722866425
You hit a point where there is no more progress to be made until you fight a boss. Huge swathes of the game are inaccessible otherwise.
Re-Logic themselves made Terraria a glorified boss rush, not anyone's fault for playing it like one.

The addition of Plantera was the beginning of the end.

>>722867401
No you don't get it you have to explore the entire map to get thousands of ore you don't need until you've exhausted everything you can do before entering hardmode. Then you do the same thing in order to get thousands of hardmode ore that you don't need before realizing that you wasted your time and could have beaten the world in the time it took to do all of that exploration

Journey is both the easiest and hardest difficulty
Classic is how the game is meant to be played
Expert is for people who played enough to want more of a challenge
Master is for people who are challenged

>>722866573
step one make 1000 buckets
step 2 flood the area around the dungeon be sure you block off the entrance
step c use the lava shark mount to avoid skeeltron

>>722861554 (OP)
after playing so much terraria over the years, both modded and unmodded, i literally can't even play expert anymore
it's just so fucking easy, you're functionally immortal with warding accessories until celestial events and moon lord but by then the game is essentially over

>>722865929
>focusing on defense is worthless in mastermode
Apparently some autist ran the numbers and found that defense is unironically meta in all modes

>>722861554 (OP)
>build an arena
why do you not want to build in this building game?

>>722861554 (OP)
try dodging

Bloatcore.

>>722861554 (OP)
Softcore mode is how the game was meant to be played. Grinding generic enemies 5000 times until a good weapon drops is not game playing, it's wasting time.

>>722870514
defense has always been meta in terraria. even on master, the game is utterly trivial if you play melee and stack defense and regen.

>>722870959
IIRC it's the best modifier for all characters. Get it/keep it if you can on all slots.

>>722865929
>>722870514
I beat Moonlord on zenith seed with full on tank gear without moving, so defense is definitely strong

What's the most fun class?

>>722871334
mage

>>722871334
Melee

>>722871334
My most fun is ranged (guns specifically) but mage is great due to the wide array of options and differences. I really like summoner too but people will generally find that boring which is understandable. I like with summoner you can use other shit with summons out.

>>722871334
Mage
Wear the Madoka set to make it even more enjoyable

>>722861554 (OP)
Daily reminder that 1.4.5 has taken longer than 1.3 and 1.4 combined

>>722861554 (OP)
bloatslop

>>722871334
Ranged

>>722861554 (OP)
>60 points of contact damage

>>722872248
It's a pretty big issue when the amount of i-frames you get isn't even enough to move outside of the enemies hitbox before you get hit again.

>>722861554 (OP)
>Bro got filtered by Expert mode
You can't be serious. I suck at everything, and even I beat it on Master. You need to reevaluate some things. Now Calamity on Master + Revengeance, that one can go fuck itself.

>>722872497
you know you can dodge the attacks right
it's no a turn based game

>>722861554 (OP)
it's a minmax simulator. it's "playable" once you tear down any potentional game that's there.
terraria was only good in 2011.

>>722873186
*if you mine out the entire area you are going to fight the boss in and replace it with platforms

>We're going on a possible 2026 release for the next Final(Final) Update(Final(Final))
>all the anons we've lost along the way waiting
>they got to know peace from this evil

>>722871334
Summoner

It's the only class which has a hidden over-powered weapon you get from doing a really hard challenge. There should be a Terraprisma for every class, all from doing different enraged bosses or something like that.

>>722861554 (OP)
Expert mode was the best addition to the game, mastermode is bullshit

>>722861554 (OP)
The game has a hundred different ways to make fights easier like potions, teleporters, arena hazards etc. just stack enough of them until you can beat the boss you want. Alternatively just get good and learn to use the dodge items like the shield that drops from eye of cthulhu in expert mode.

>>722861554 (OP)
Play in Journey mode and change the difficulty to perfectly fit your preference. There's no shame in it.

>>722873357
>>722869837
where's the face for Legendary mode?

>>722875206
>restricted to meme seeds only
Rightfully ignored for being dumb.
Master mode is joke enough already.

>>722861554 (OP)
>complain when hardmodes bump up enemy stats
>complain when hardmodes make enemies mor mechanically challenging
>complain about having to take steps to counter hardmodes
WELL WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU GUYS WANT IN A DIFFICULTY OPTION???

>>722875271
>meme seeds only
skill issue

>>722875271
I've beaten Master mode. It's not a big deal.

>>722875393
Add a win button so I can click it and win whenever I feel like I haven't won enough in the last couple minutes.

>>722869837
>>722873357
Journey mode is actually really cool. You only get to dupe things you unlock, and you need to collect a certain amount of that thing to permanently unlock it. It's definitely a different and fun way to play the game, especially if you're burnt out of the Terraria tedium. You can even crank up the difficulty, and idk if they ever fixed this but the journey mode difficulty slider goes past Master mode and shit gets even more HP and damage. I recommend a Journey mode playthrough, it is not what you think it is.

>>722875549
It's not. Still doesn't make it a good game mode.

>>722875393
arena building isn't even that bad, you maybe make 4 or 5 arenas, and you can half ass a lot of them and the game is easy enough. Empress of Light day mode can be done on natural terrain no sweat, just gotta make sure something like 30 tiles are flat and there's a strat you can do for her.

>>722875393
>hardmode introduces new enemies, ores, and is the second half of the fucking game, not a difficulty mode
>expert mode introduces new accessories from each boss, gives new attacks to bosses and some enemies, along with increasing the drop rate overall so you spend less time grinding for what you want
>master mode is just a stat increase for enemies

>>722875206
here it is

>>722875393
>complain about having to take steps to counter hardmodes
terraria has the issue where all the stuff you would want to prep for a specific boss is unlocked only after you already beat the boss

and don't pretend placing giant, ugly, visual shattering arenas around the entire map is a good solution, no one enjoy plopping down a giant 500x500 web of platforms is a good thing

>>722876396
Is the Skeletroon boss also impossible?

>>722876414
the game should either generate its own slightly subpar arenas or should transport you to a different plane to fight a boss
But really most bosses are so fucking easy anyway that you don't need an elaborate super arena, except for maybe Zenith Eater of Worlds, Zenith WoF and Zenith Plantera which are all unbridled cancer.

>>722876414
>and don't pretend placing giant, ugly, visual shattering arenas around the entire map is a good solution,
get better at building and you can make pretty arenas

>>722876685
No, you succeed 41% of the time.

>>722876808
What bosses do you need areas on?

I really wish they made a whole arbalist class. I really enjoyed the knight set but it's only really good for cheesing moonlord

>>722876414
>Placing a 500x500 arena
You can easily get away with a 170x125 arena, you don't need a massive one, just big enough to have the range for a campfire and heart lantern/star in a jar.

>>722861554 (OP)
I'm not playing your autistic mod, troon.

>>722876902
other than the ones I listed, not really any
gravitation potions help with a lot of them. More than anything I usually just make a bunch of land flat. Shit like Queen Bee can be done in a super tiny scuffed ass arena even in Zenith. Wall of Flesh can be done with lava walking on the empty sides of hell. All of the other hard mode above ground bosses can be done with gravitation potion and eventually just EoL's infinite flight bullshit.

>>722861554 (OP)
I keep forgetting this game exists

>>722876897
kek. He is the exact same as Skeletron but has a 41% chance of just dying out of nowhere with an "ACK!" message in the chat

2D Minecraft

I want a grapple that's swingy like a rope, and no I don't want to wait until post martian madness for it.

>>722881146
Terraria Otherworld was supposed to have it
https://youtu.be/V1-pEHhMlDA

Terraria 2 will probably have it too, after it comes out in 2060 that is

>>722861554 (OP)
>Dude, just build an arena for every single fight lmao
Yeah anon you picked the difficulty meant for autistic calamity tier players
Go back to normal where you belong.

Melee should've never had projectiles
It should be about high mobility and parrying

>>722882672
It could've been about short lived projectiles and rings around the player like the reworked swords they overhauled in 1.4.4 but they fucked it up and made all the post-HM swords be just ranged without ammunition. It sucks.

>>722875549
exactly

>>722882672
calameme does this and it's the dumbest retarded faggot shit ever

>>722883117
No it doesn't
If anything it adds two braindead projectile shooting homing melees pre boss and consistently adds more homing weapons while also spamming you with defense damage and debuffs that make it much easier to just larp as a tanky ranger

>>722883340
yes it does retard
there's an entire class of weapons called "true melee" that don't have any projectiles
and it's fucking retarded because every single boss zooms around like a homeless dude on crack so you can't fucking hit them

>>722883460
You've disproven that calamity makes true melee focused on aggression and agility worthless by saying it's worthless?
Melee gets fucking raped by old lord oathblade and bladecrest oathsword and it never recovers

>>722882672
>>722883460
Hm. Could True Melee actually work if there was a parry into stun mechanic to bosses? Or would it be too op?

melee is kino in fargos with the tungsten enchant
im surprised noone talks about that mod it was fucking fun

>>722883673
>i wish you could play projectile-less melee
>you can play projectile-less melee in calamity but it's dumb
>no you can't retard
>yes you can
>well playing projectile-less melee is dumb and shit anyway
genuine schizo behavior on display here

>>722883721
seems pretty fucking broken, desu. especially since terraria's gear system would make that very easy to trigger and abuse for classes that don't need the help like mage and ranger.
true melee isn't even that weak damage-wise, it's just a skill check class because the playstyle revolves around perfectly dodging for a while and then finding an opening to pop adrenaline and take half the boss's health off in a five second window.

What happened to Thorium?

>>722885543
not bothering with post-moonlord content made it lose relevancy as base terraria kept updating and adding a bajillion things to the game. most of the items it adds are pointless, the bosses are more trouble than they're ever worth, and shit like healer and bard don't really have any reason to exist.
i played it like a year ago to see how it was doing these days, and what stuck out the most to me was that the reward for killing their obligatory start-of-hardmode boss, the beholder dude, was just spawning some shitty ore across the world with no use except for armor sets that are worse than titanium or adamantite which you can get for free.
it's just not well-made.

What were they thinking?
The whole objective of the NPC system is to build a town, why the fuck would I want to spread them out all across the map?
>Let's lock the best mobility system behind ruining towns
Fuck that, I'll just use wired teleporters like in the old da-
>We thought of that, now you also need to min-max NPC placement within the town so they don't get pissy and make you pay double for items. No escaping it.

>>722861554 (OP)
meds

>>722886581
>No escaping it.
Isn't paying more escaping it?

>>722888339
The whole happiness mechanic is terrible. They got butthurt players were building commie blocks to store the 300 superfluous NPCs instead of building bespoke housing for each one of them so they proceeded to also fuck over the people that built bespoke housing for them to try and kill off the people "playing it wrong".
Built a two story building with huge themed rooms only to find out everyone hated each other. Damn, shame on me, should have scoured the wiki before doing it like everything else in this fucking game since like 2012.

where the hell is that stupid skeletron png i need to laugh

>>722888786
Nothing is stopping you from keeping as you do, the money increase really isn't that big a deal

>>722889482
Money has never been an issue in Terraria, it's just annoying to look at vendors and see the devs telling me I'm doing it wrong.

i like shroomite armor idk why. when i think of terraria armors molten, meteor and this one come to my mind.

>>722889657
You sound like a bitch get overyourself mr thinskin take that price increase like a champ or play on the zenith seed that one removes NPC happiness entirely

>>722886581
I dunno, I don't mind building a bunch of different, smaller biome themed settlements. But then again, I'm not a raging autist.

Don't drink potions when you're low like you do in most games. Drink them as soon as you take enough damage for one to top you off, so by the time you take the same amount of damage, hopefully the cooldown is over.

>>722886030
"balanced like vanilla" means you still use vanilla items

>>722886581
>No escaping it.
Literally just ignore it and you've escaped it

>>722861554 (OP)
minecraft is shit...

Master is easier than Expert.

>>722861554 (OP)
Shoo shoo Skeleshitter.

>>722886030
its very well made wtf. it fits right in with vanilla

I don't get why almost every single mod is trying to one-up each other in difficulty, it just leads to dogshit CBT gameplay that only appeals to nohit autists, the sort of 'people' who are like
>WOWIE ZOWIE, I BEAT THE FORSAKEN ENIGMATIC GREAT GODSLAYER DEITY FROM THE PEEPEEPOOPOO MOD HITLESS BUFFLESS AND HOELESS WHILE ONLY USING THE BALLSNIFFER BROADSWORD

>>722861554 (OP)
It feels fine when you play with friends.
But yeah it can feel a little tedious having to pre-build for every fight if you're alone.
Normal mode is way too fucken easy to even think of playing though, I'd much prefer staying on Expert. There really is no alternative.

>>722861554 (OP)
I think this game is pretty fun. But I do agree that the bosses are by far the worst part of this game, really poor design in that regard.

>>722896030
are there non cbt mods

>>722896030
Schizo.

>>722896030
vanilla skeletron is already impossible tho?

>>722896401
Thorium and Spirit are both good. Avoid Calamity addons like the plague, those exemplify this issue tenfold.

>>722884440
having true melee weapons isn't the same as accommodating for them and calamity manages to make the gap wider

>>722861554 (OP)
>play "expert mode"
>it's difficult
ok man, what's the problem? would you rather they have a hard mode that's 1% harder than easy mode or one that comes with actual new attacks, ai patterns, and cool items to compensate? play on fuckin easy mode, couldnt bother me less as long as you don't whine about it

>>722903727
if it's so expert, nerf everything to be balanced for normal

>>722903789
what are you on about

>>722861554 (OP)
expert bosses are supposed to be dodged with hermes boots and a double jump/rocket boots
you should have no issues outrunning them
you're expected to go out and find life crystals too so the damage point is moot
the only boss that inflicts debuffs you can't counter in pre hardmode is brain of cthulhu with his creepers

>>722861554 (OP)
unc expected minecraft :skull:

>>722901653
It really does accommodate for them though. The weapons generally have higher dps because they know you aren't going to be able to hit the boss as often. It's not going to be an easy mode nothing is going to beat projectile spam in terraria, but it is playable.

Play
Calamity

>>722886581
Don't care
All to the commie blocks

>>722871334
don't let anyone tell you I said this, but mixed class is best

>>722871334
summoner
mage and ranger are interchangeable point and click shit and melee degenerates into being a tanky mage
summoner meanwhile gets to control the field with sentries and minions

>>722886581
i agree it was a shit concept but there are enough unfixed money dupes that i say whatever to the cost increase, i find it a lot more fun to build teleporters everywhere anyway, and they dont stop working when the retarded demolitionist walks outside and gets reduced to atoms by dick fuck the dong smasher in the middle of a solar eclipse

>>722886581
commieblocks are fucking soulless and urbanoids deserve the rope