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How well has it aged?

>>722878261 (OP)
Awfully.

>>722878261 (OP)
It's not a fun game but it's considered "great." which is humorous in its own way.

>>722878261 (OP)
I started playing it on NSO and just got to the Water Temple. What should I expect?

Seeing as how games don't age, it remains unsurpassed.

>>722878261 (OP)
about as well as I have
I'm 30, balding and live with my parents, but at least I'm in shape

I play it once a year with a 3 heart run. And still enjoy it more than any 3D Zelda made after it.

>>722879789
the best dungeon in the entire series

>>722878261 (OP)
played it for the first time last year and it was by far the best zelda experience ive ever had.

>>722878261 (OP)
it is extremely primitive for the 3d medium.

>>722879846
theres no need to be so defensive.

It's a wonderful experience. I can't see how people at least aren't entertained by it, even now.

>>722878261 (OP)
>>722878393
>>722879528
samefag

it's okay, really. does a lot of things right but does a lot of things wrong too. don't think i'll ever replay it

If you were to hand OoT (lets say an emulation on a modern controller) to a 12 year old avid gamer (who magically has no knowledge of zelda) at what point do you think they would get filtered?
I think Hyrule Field

>>722883169
as a child playing it, i didn't get hardstuck until i needed to find hookshot - so maybe that

>>722878393
*well

>>722879789
>press start
>move to the iron boots
>press A
>press start
>5 seconds later
>press start
>move to the regular boots
>press A
>press start
>5 seconds later
>press start
>move to the iron boots
>press A
>press start
>5 seconds later

>>722878261 (OP)
Games don't age.

>>722878261 (OP)
it's literally the only normal 3d zelda game, every other one since had a massive fucking ocean or fursonas or fucking birds or larped as skyrim and the combat never really changed between any of them unless you wanna get really autistic in botw

>>722884054
If you dislike this you're an adhd fortnite zoomer or something

>>722878261 (OP)
OoT is aryan kino

>>722878261 (OP)
It aged like wine. It's a masterpiece, even the bad parts like the owl make a memorable experience since everyone can bond over being annoyed by him.

>>722884196
>transmodding
no thanks.

>>722884584
>transmodding

It aged a little when Majora's Mask mogged it but other than that it's still as good as it always was by comparison to the goat.

For a 3D game made in 1998, it holds up surprisingly well and is completely playable like any other game. It might not outdo many modern games, but the fact that it's totally fine says quite a lot about just how much they got right. Hyrule Field is kind of empty, there have been more engaging "open" worlds both before and after, but it serves more as a hub than anything. I would say it's far easier to play for the first time in 2025 than Super Mario 64 whose camera fights with you constantly in the worst places.

>>722879789
A dungeon that's interesting but marred by inconvenience. The Ocarina of Time 3D version allows you to fast equip the boots which makes it far less cumbersome.

>>722885492
The limitations of early 3D is also why the game has the tone/atmosphere it does. And Nintendo's developers still haven't figured it out. They kept trying to replicate Ocarina but never figured out how to do it right.

>>722884196
>modded game
>still playing at 240p

>>722886157
>They kept trying to replicate Ocarina
they definitely did not, and thats on purpose too. you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>722887357
muh authentic experience

>>722878393
FPBP

>>722887371
Their pitch for Twilight Princess was literally "we heard you want the successor of Ocarina of Time and we made it. In fact, it's the best game we ever made." They said this right on the E3 floor when revealing it. And neither ended up being correct.

>>722878261 (OP)
It's a good game and very fun, but I would argue that it's one of those games that looks better with that somewhat blurred effect given by old CRT televisions. If you play it on a modern television or with normal emulation, it kind of looks like blocky ass.

I'm an oldfag who loved all the Zelda games growing up, playing each of them soon after they came out, but I never owned an N64, so I never played either of those.
Do you guys know how decent those $15 USB N64 controller clones are? I was thinking of buying one, so I could emulate them and get a somewhat accurate experience, but then I also wonder if I should maybe just play the PC ports instead.

>>722888081
their pitch for twilight princess was "we're sorry for the bait and switch between the tech demo and wind waker. we heard you that you want a game with serious graphics"

and even if they specifically said "successor", they were referring to timeline faggotry, because they were still riding that larp that they never really cared about to begin with.

every single zelda game (with the exception of what, the oracles?) has had its own specific gameplay defining gimmick that sets it apart from the other games. even totk reusing the entire map as botw has such dramatically different abilities that it changed how the game was played and approached. never ONCE have they tried to "replicate ocarina", and that is on purpose.

>>722888501
I can't imagine that they're very good at all. You're better off getting a Switch Gamecube controller or a real one with an adapter and then playing it through the PC port. That's what I use anyway.

The worst part of OOT for me was it aged like shit after my first play through. Great game when all the wonder and merriment is hitting, but replay value is trash. MM is better for replayability.

>>722888575
I still think nintendo is retarded for making WW but i consider it the last good 3d zelda before botw

>>722888962
I highly disagree. MM is so fucking slow even with the first cycle when you want to just get to the fun stuff but you're gated even with sequence breaks.

>>722889206
MM first 3 days is absolute dogshit, I can't disagree with that, everything past that though? Pure peak.

>>722889257
I want to agree with you but you get gated by stupid shit like Zora eggs and the well.

>>722889383
I would argue zora eggs and shrub maze are the best stealth segments in a nintendo game.
Zelda in general is super fucking linear pre-botw slop days.

>>722888501
Just play a PC port with a modern controller.
You can set the C buttons to the Dpad and it surprisingly works great.

>>722888575
>"we're sorry for the bait and switch between the tech demo and wind waker. we heard you that you want a game with serious graphics"
But they also invoked the Ocarina name as many times as they could during that E3 performance. As well as having tons of nods to it in the game. And they were clearly trying to go for the "dark, moody" style of Ocarina with Twilight Princess. They just failed, making a bunch of ugly muddy and blurred textures which was the popular style at the time.

Twilight was them trying to appeal to the Ocarina fans. But not actually understanding what they liked. Much like later Star Wars films trying to be like Empire Strikes Back, but not understanding what made it work.

>>722889576
I don't stealth segments at all but at least skipping Deku Palace's stealth section is as easy as just back flipping onto the door frame and doing a little parkour. I disagree with Zelda being super linear pre-BotW. You're just not being creative enough.

>>722889776
I don't even consider speedrunning to be "playing video games" so to each their own.

>>722888575
You sounds autistic but that's to be expected from a Zelda player.

>>722889734
and yet they still had the wolf shit focus. every game is distinctly different, and they never intended to make "more of the same, but new/better"

they heard the tremendous amount of negative feedback over wind waker. they saw the continued praise for oot at the top of every chart (lmao delusional idiots). all they did was change the visual style for it. they literally, fundamentally do not believe in making the same game but new/better. like, its genuinely an oddity that they made galaxy 2. lip service with a focus on visuals means nothing compared to what they actually MADE.

>>722890225
>and yet they still had the wolf shit focus.
Which includes howling out songs from Ocarina. Learning sword skills from Ocarina. And multiple story events tying TP to Ocarina...

>>722888501
i bought a cheapo china one and it lasted less than 30 days before the stick drift was so bad i threw it out.

>>722889923
That isn't even considered a speedrunning glitch but you do you.

>>722890413
yes, like i said, when they were still riding timeline faggotry. and fuck off with "songs from". zelda as a franchise reuses names, songs, places, fucking everything over and over. some cheap member berries do not a "replication" make. also, you're only talking about twilight princess, and ignoring the claim of "kept trying to replicate". you're only arguing once, and falling flat at even that.

>>722878261 (OP)
It sucked at release, Kingsfield 3 did it better but 2 years prior. Sonygods won

>>722887357
Games look better at their intended resolutions.

>>722878261 (OP)
games don't age. you age.

>>722879846
>>722884196
>>722891689

>>722891573
There's intention and there's hardware limitations. Even at 240p the game ran at 20 FPS. so it's hard to argue that's the intended resolution. Nintendo would definitively have made it 480p at least if they could.

>>722878261 (OP)
Controls are a bit awkward as was the style at the time.
Overall it's pretty comfy. as with almost all games after the shift to 3D for over a decade it's incredibly easy with the only difficulty coming from not knowing where you need to go if it's your first time playing, but for returning people that's not an issue so it makes for a good comfort game.

>>722889704
Oh, okay, I thought I was going to need the d-pad for something else... I honestly don't even remember what kind of layout it used

>>722890498
Sheesh, yeah, I think I'm going to look online at what layouts people are using for the PC port and then see if I can mod in the correct button icons for a standard Xbox/PS5/Switch Pro controller, so they display properly

>>722892746
OOT didn't use the N64's d-pad or the L button. The controller design just didn't allow for it.
I like using cross for A, square for B, d-pad for C buttons, R1 for R, and L2 for Z. Just feels the most intuitive.

>>722878261 (OP)
like a fine milk.

>>722879846
denying reality is a very bad sign

>>722884216
switching between forms in OoT sucks

>>722894620
You didn't do it often so this wasn't a problem.

>>722894620
wasnt it literally only required for shadow and gerudo

>>722894620
Not really anywhere near as bad as wolf form or sailing or changing to the bird every time you want to leave a dungeon in SS.

>>722890413
gee whiz nintendo does nostalgiabaiting, who fucking knew
friendly reminder that kirby started nostalgiabaiting the entire gba game in literally his second game btw

Not well, but still better than most of the competition from its era.

>>722894823
>it sucks, but sometimes
>>722894867
>if you have foreknowledge you can experience the suckiness but only sometimes
>>722894903
>warping back to temple of light and running to pedestal and then warping back to where you came from is worse than transforming on the spot
nostalgia is cancerous

>>722895606
>transforming on the spot
>game forces you to do it then locks you into a bunch of filler side quests, you don't "chose" to do it
Cherry picking is cancerous.

>>722894620
You do not need Lens of Truth.

>>722895606
you do the first 3 temples as child, then the equivalent 3 temples as adult, and then the last 2 involve going back to child, thats most of the game that you just dont have to bother with it

>>722893571
Oh, no, I know it wouldn't work to use both for anything intensive, but I still figured it might be used for menus or some kind of toggle-type function. Thanks, I'll give the layout a shot though

>>722878261 (OP)
Like wine compared to what they're giving us now

>>722895698
goal post moving, it transforms you on the spot you disingenuous piece of dogshit