Thread 722887659

is the push for enabling secure boot to brick computers a ploy from the console manufacturers to sell more consoles?

>>722887659 (OP)
>bios corrupting
How do you accomplish this? Aren't they just going in and enabling TPM or some shit?

Your own damn fault for playing cawadoody

>>722887659 (OP)
How are you retards bricking your fucking computer by enabling secure boot? I just built a new rig a month ago and it was on by fucking default, let alone bricking the fucking thing. This has to be a (You) problem, specifically a low IQ techlet problem.

>>722887738
TRVKE

>>722887983
It's just made up stories by people who are upset that they're not allowed to cheat.

>>722887983
this guy is a "software engineer"

>BIOS "corrupting"
>"brick"
I love how normalfags use these words to describe things that are entirely reversible.

>>722887659 (OP)
Unironically who the fuck still calls PC repair people in 2025.

It's almost impossible to corrupt a bios unless you're turning the computer off when you update it. Going in to turn on secure boot would not do that. Calling BS.

>>722888438
>monitor breaks
>local Walmart has fuckall options
>local best buy in the next town over has fuckall options, and they're all fucking curved
>Google PC Store
>my rinky dink town has like 9 places labelled as computer "stores"
>they don't sell PC parts, they're all repair shops
>my only fucking option is ordering online

>>722887659 (OP)
If your BIOS is corruptible, that's on the manufacturer. You should not be able to do this.
PCs get the memory the BIOS is stored in locked after production. Only the builtin BIOS update mechanism is supposed to touch it.
>>722888462
And even in that regard, it's gotten a lot better. I've read Intel documentaiton on their update process, and it's supposed to be failure proof.
Actually had an automated system shut a platform down during an update, and it struggled but managed to recover itself.

>>722888462
My guess is this guy is so retarded he doesn't understand how the BIOS even work and the tech guy is taking advantage of him to make money.

>>722887983
Nobody said anything about secure boot you dumb ugly fat nigger.

>>722887730
anti-cheat getting kernel access maybe?

>>722888618
Isn't that the requirement for Black Ops 7?

>>722887730
It is probably an oversimplification of what really happened.

>>722888648
Beats me w11 "requires" secure boot but I don't use it.
It's all just NSA encryption backdoor shit anyway, if they want to hang you it's not gonna secure anything.

>>722887983
They're not bricking their personal computer by enabling secure boot. They're bricking their computer by playing COD.

>>722888330
Well he doesn't know how to flash and had to call a repair guy

>>722888330
BIOS corrupting is both correct and reversible
Sometimes Brick is also correct

>>722888795
What I mean is it's never the correct usage of these terms when it comes to retards. They'll mess up the boot process of Windows and scream "brick!"

>>722887659 (OP)
xBONE amirite

>>722888330
Does every board have dual bios or bios flashback like features these days? I thought that was still enthusiast level stuff.

>>722887730
>>722888638
No way it's not the anticheat.

>>722887730
People probably have no idea what they're saying. Maybe they have some old Windows install on MBR and when they try to switch it to GPT / UEFI boot and turn Secure Boot on it stops working and they think they fucked the BIOS.

>>722887738
>for playing on PC
FTFY. get a game dedicated machine retard. get a console like a normal person

>>722887983
Regardless, secure boot is trash that serves only as a vehicle for the likes of MS to take control of your property away from you with scare tactics.

>>722887659 (OP)
the jews just dont want white men hanging out together without a jew supervising their every action. it makes the jews uncomfortable when white men get together like that and talk about things without the jew's knowledge.

>>722890021
Incorrect. What it does do, is make all of you tech illiterate retards crawl from the woodwork and giving me a good laugh with your copy-paste delusions.

This thread is the first time I've even heard of "secure boot". What the hell is that supposed to be and what's supposed to be so insecure about regular booting?

>>722890021
Just put in your own keys if you care about that.

>>722890689
Its secure because Microsoft gets to fuck around in your BIOS for your safety goyim

If you play COD in 2025 you deserve to get your PC bricked. I have no sympathy for you.

>>722887659 (OP)
JUST TURN IT ON GRANDPA YOU THINK YOU KNOW BUT YOU DONT

>>722890689
Read about it instead of asking random strangers, you dumb ape

>>722888330
If you shit yourself does that mean its okay to the people around you since you can just jump in the shower?

>>722890689
Secure boot is a mechanism defined in the UEFI standard which allows only known or signed images to be loaded/booted by the BIOS.
If it is enabled, you can only start an OS if it has been signed for your PC, and hasn't been changed.
Note that this only protects the part loaded by the BIOS, usually only the bootloader.

>>722887730
PLEASE WAIT THIS ACTION WILL TAKE SOME MINUTES, DO NOT RESTART YOUR COMPUTER
>hey i'ts stuck at 48% for 4 minutes i think i'll reboot

If you dont already have secure boot on by default you need to upgrade your toaster

>>722887659 (OP)
It's shitty pajeet code monkey's.

>>722891108
I disabled it, don't need it for my archlinux build

What does secureboot even do

>>722890689
You've most likely been "secure bootinf" since 2013 or so. It's not opt out situation in most cases.

>>722891165
see
>>722890849
If it's enabled, you can only start an OS if it's signed, which means it's known and hasn't been changed.
That's all secure boot does.

>motherboard is like 6 years old
>can’t see option for secure boot even though I disabled CPM and enabled UEFI
>probably need to update bios
I’m terrified and have been stalling for like a week now. Getting to this point was already bad enough as a tech illiterate retard

>>722890797
Uuurgh, but mom, it's so much effort to find information that isn't just regurgitated bot articles...

>>722891389
updating your bios isn't bad at all lmao, its incredibly simple, just don't do it in the middle of a fucking storm or whenever you might lose power

>>722888730
Secureboot has nothing to do with alphabets owning your hardware, that's down to the CPU being completely and unmitigatably backdoored via PSP/IME/whatever the ARM equivalent is
Secureboot is for corporations to dictate what you can and cannot do on """your""" home PC, like they already do on consoles and smartphones, it's quite literally implementation of the same super locked down, walled garden, trustzone hypervisor crap that's been standard in consoles and mobile devices since forever.

>>722891389
What's your pc? Company, model number?

Like im going to let microjeet decide what I get to run on my hardware

>>722890712
Well now nothing is going to work because things will require Microsoft signed keys for (((remote attestation)))

>>722888563
>If your BIOS is corruptible, that's on the manufacturer. You should not be able to do this.
unironically this, I know people on this sub are not tech-savy but if your bios can be even be touched from within your operating system it's a giant red flag, I know that some modern motherboards make it possible to flash UEFI using their software while live
not only that, but the standart nowadays is that you have dual chips with one chip being an unwrittable reserve designed for backup and the other one being for the main UEFI that you can fuck around with

>>722891507
But you can just freely add your own keys. It's all in the standard.

>>722887659 (OP)
>playing black ops 7 in the first place
deserved, imo

>/v/ talks about technology
a good laff every time, sign your own keys you fucking schizophrenic retard

>>722891643
Stop shitting here poojeet go shit in the street

>>722891581
>dual chips with one chip being an unwrittable reserve
nevermind about that, its currently patented by g*gabyte so its not really the standart
nevertheless, other motherboard should use error correction by checksum anyway so basically you should never brick your board

>>722888931
Almost all have it nowadays, I haven't seen a board that doesn't have a ROM image of a default BIOS. It just makes sense so people can't completely fuck things like the old days. No matter how careful people are, if 1,000,000 people attempt to update their BIOS across the world, chances are at least one of them will have some unforeseeable crash or power outage during it. Just makes sense to prepare for the eventuality.

>>722888747
They are "bricking" their computers while poorly attempting to enable a thing in the bios menu. It's literally just setting disabled to enabled and restarting again but some people will fuck it up somehow and make a big fuss about it on social media.

>zoomzooms and boomers are getting filtered by what is basically a light switch
how

>>722888783
Just wear a trench coat with nothing under it.

Welcome to the glownigger botnet, boys!

>>722891507
every compiler for every language has code from Oracle in it.

>>722891480
I never update my Bios. Don't feel the need to.

>>722887659 (OP)
I mean, the push for secure boot (such as Windows forcibly retiring Windows 10 and requiring it for Windows 11) has more to do with preventing the end user from pirating things and circumventing their spyware with user-created software more than anything. I don't think users being so tech illiterate that they brick their own machines while turning it on was even something they considered.

>>722895219
Secure Boot has nothing to do with stopping piracy. It stops unauthorised software running at boot

>>722887730
>>722887659 (OP)
This dope went into BIOS and turned on Secure Boot after installing Windows didn't turn off CSM, and is probably running some old ass version of W10 like 1809 and an old ass version of their BIOS.

All new versions of W10/11 support Secure Boot after install

It's probably not an intentional ploy, developer and publishers are retarded
>We're a mere 20 years removed from an extremely common on disc DRM bricking people's drives by overwriting their drivers

>>722895703
Sony did it with CD's

>>722895796
The Sony thing was Rootkits.

>>722890835
No, to use your own analogy. It's more like the normalfags saying they shit themselves when all they did was fart.

>>722888438
the same type of people playing cod

>>722895219
its just to prevent cheaters from using pci cheat cards but they will just find work arounds while everyone else gets fucked as always

this thread is fucking gold
HOLY FUCKING KEK
>whole thread of dont do this it creates nerve gas

>>722888509
Electronics have gotten so big yet we don't have any options for them anymore. In the 1980s and 1990s between specialty stores and larger discount/department stores you had your normie-tier stores, the hobbyist store, the high-end AV store, the "latest and greatest" store, the "pro" store, the superstores, and so forth.

If you have any hardware monitoring software or something similar that starts on boot, disable that. For me, it was Rivatuner causing problems on random boots.

during their beta they already had cheaters running around. claiming it makes their games more cheater-proof was already proven to be a lie

>>722888783
>>722892648
I unironically had a little girl, probably like 9 or 10, flash me yesterday.
I dont know what to think, but, im sure I wouldve been happy had I been a pedophile like the majority of /v/ users.
pic very much related, only she pulled them to the side too

>>722900437
>im sure I wouldve been happy had I been a pedophile like the majority of /v/ users.
>he gets cunnyflashed
>isnt a pedo
its so FUCKING UNFAIIIIIR

>>722887659 (OP)
What even is secure boot? And why do so many games now require it?

>>722900873
If you don't know what it is you probably already have it enabled.

My question is what are these dudes doing running around with secure boot off in the first place like what is the purpose?

>>722888747
its not actually bricking their computer playing cod, if you look in the replies to this post he even admits it is people fucking up the settings but somehow blames it on call of duty

>>722887659 (OP)
I work in a small shop in bumfuck Poland and every single time theres FOMO game that requires enabling SecureBoot we get shit ton of PCs to a point where I drive around to peoples homes to enable this lol.
>>722888438
You insanely underestimate how tech inept average normgroid is anon. Like insanely.

Works on my machine.™

>>722887659 (OP)
>activision slop
They deserve it.

>>722901165
name 5 fps that aren't milsim or hero shooter slop with an actual playerbase in 2025

>turn on XMP
>corrupt bios
FUCK ACTIVISION

>>722901234
I can't because I don't play shit games (fps)

>>722900437
Image ruined by disgusting short fingers.

>>722887659 (OP)
this didn't have to happen if losers who cheat had an ounce of self control, but now everyone has to pay the piper.

>>722901285
what do you play anon, it better not be some gacha slop

>>722900437
Have a friend with small children. Her daughter liked to run around naked while company was around, and she'd be all "we don't do that in front of company" in a soft voice. Sitting on the couch with a throw (kek) blanket, I tossed it on her as she ran by and she fell on her face. We all laughed while she was sobbing, and I told her I'd do it every time she got naked while I was around. She started wearing clothes.

>>722901285
ok then shut the fuck up mongoloid

>>722891972
>its currently patented by g*gabyte
Can they really patent something so simple? Playstation firmware updates work this way, so I don't know how they even patented this.

>>722887659 (OP)
same thing happened for battlefield 6 btw
some older motherboards even though they say they support tpm, actually don't
ESPECIALLY gigabyte

>>722889983
>playing fps with a controller
No thanks, I'd rather watch paint dry.

Most of /v/ doesn't know how to update their gpu drivers on their prebuilt so the bios might as well be pure arcane magic.

>>722891581
Jusr make it immutable anfd atomic.

i won't enable secure boot
and i won't play games that require it
>b-but you won't be able to play the newest call of modern creed!
exactly

>>722902928
I'm pretty sure your phone doesn't support Secure Boot anyway, Rajesh.

>>722902928
I'm pretty sure you can't afford games needing Secure Boot anyway, Rajesh.

>>722903186
>>722903505
lmao like clockwork

>>722887738
Sigma ActivisionGODS just making sure you don't have to deal with people who would install cod on purpose

>>722903505
differentfag trying to make it look like the previous anon is retarded? I know I've done that

>>722887659 (OP)
The joys of kernel level anti-cheat. People are warned constantly and they still just shrug because they can't physically see the problems until one backhands them hard enough.

>>722888509
>live in some fuckoff nobody city only known for its football team
>somehow have one of only like 50 Micro Centers in the whole country

>>722904371
Remember when both Easy Anticheat and BattlEye got exploited allowing random trolls to permaban you
Good times

>>722887659 (OP)
bnuuy ears kitty

>>722904489
2 in my metro area (Atlanta). Next closest is Charlotte. Retail is dead outside of grocery.

>>722900437
She probably didn't think anything of it

>>722887738
/thread

>>722904371
>People are warned constantly and they still just shrug because they can't physically see the problems until one backhands them hard enough.
Good thing that only happens to people who are retarded and never touched a computer before.

>>722904367
>get caught botspamming
>try to spin it around as if it's totally 2 different people
lemao

>>722904675
MC is pretty based though. If you're retarded like me, the good staff will treat you well and direct you towards a reasonable price point for what you need. Shit like Best Buy was top down scam city. They told their staff to fuck people as hard as they could.

>>722904983
it actually is 2 different people, thought it would be funny to copy his post

>>722905175
/v/ is one person, chud. :3

>>722888183
>leave the billion dollar company alone

>>722888438
People who don't have thousands in spare parts laying around to do the sort of testing needed to confirm certain failing parts.

>>722905261
Yeah, me and I say CoD SUCKS!

Pretty sure is battlefield 6 and not BO7
EA shills working extra hours to push this half baked shit I see

Not all cod sucks.
Black ops just sucks
We're waiting for MW4 and play with 141 Forces and cute Farah. Soaps death needs to avenged. Fuck the Konnis

>>722905601
No kappa, why are they so hellbent on making Black Ops to the point that there's now 7?

>>722900437
yeah, kids with little supervision tend to be retarded like that

>>722902141
skill issue

Just today I plugged a new SSD into my computer. Just for installing games on. For some reason my computer wouldn't boot after that. More specifically, Windows wouldn't load. It would just sit there with the spinning loading icon endlessly. And the BIOS claimed my regular HDD used for storage didn't exist anymore. Unplugged the new SSD and Windows loaded fine and the old storage drive was back. Plugged it back and the problem came back. Just in case I move the new SSD from 1_3 to 1_4. That worked. Windows booted fine. Storage hard drive is still there. I hate the way computers just randomly don't work sometimes.

>oy vey are you trying to run the loonix on it?!
secure boot can eat shit and die

>>722906047
>when your sata slots share bandwidth with nvme and using nvme disables some sata ports
fun times

>>722887738
spbp

>>722906047
I think windows 11 has a bunch of bugs with storage devices, like when I install a game on the secondary nvme I get insane random stutters, but when I use the primary I don't
>inb4 chipset nvme vs cpu
both are on the chipset

>>722888183
>bootlicking this hard
>muh cheating le baderino
A reddity force is stronk with this one faggot...

>>722888968
This is almost guaranteed to be the issue. I did this myself even uefi first started being a thing.

>>722906317
Identical nvme?

>>722906354
He is right though. Generally speaking. Whenever some new tech comes along that pirates, cheaters, etc. can't defeat the first thing they do is go to FUD and start spreading rumors about how it damages your computer in hopes the public pushback based on that will lead to it being abandoned. It's happened many times now. And it's actually worked a few times, e.g. Ubisoft and TAGES.

>>722906481
same brand, size, model and everything, the only difference was date of purchase of a month apart which I agree can be a problem of batch and all that, but I inverted them to test and it really just seems like a matter of if game install on C:(windows installation) no stutter, if install on D: random stutter even on shitty 2d h-games

>>722887730
Jewish spyware
>>722887738
/Thread

>>722906529
If you can't even boot the game without it as a normalfag, why would that help cheaters? Cheaters want regular people to stomp for ???fun???

>>722906258
On the internet you're not supposed to let anyone know you are a cat.

>>722906636
I was just wondering if one of them might have dram while the other doesn't. I don't know honestly how the chipset handles it but there should be a certain amount of lane sharing if both are connected via the chipset.

If you aren't using OpenBSD you don't know shit about computer security.

>>722906317
>suing indiasoft durgadows os
Asked for it.
Hope and wish that you get fucked in some other way for being such faggot.

hersher of the void still a thing or they forgot? like how they forgot the traveler arrived in teyvat flying instead of a spaceship

>>722906529
It in fact does, denuvo fucks with sdd durability and munche perfomance.
This shit is not safe and corpos don't care about you.

>>722907062
>denuvo fucks with sdd durability
There's no evidence to support that and there never has been. It was just something made up by the pirates to try to force publishers to stop using it.
>and munche perfomance
That's very much up to the game devs. We have example of games, mostly Japanese developed games and we all know Japs are technically incompetent, where denuvo does seem to cause problems. But we also have games where the devs removed denuvo at a later date and the result of that was virtually no improvement to performance at all.

>>722887659 (OP)
lol, should have gotten battlefield instead.

>>722907315
battlefield does the same shit

>>722890440
>the jews just dont want white men hanging out together without a jew supervising their every action
Now you're talking nonsense, goy

>>722887659 (OP)
Unironicaly zero sympathy for these people.
If you willingly buy and play AAA trash especially western AAA trash, tou deserve fucking everything what these will bring upon you, including agressive microtransactions, pushing DEI down your throat and kernel level denuvo bullshit antipiracy/anticheat software that can beick your damn PC. This is a punishment for being stupid.

People like me were telling and warning for years to stay away from AAA slop, but many normies refuse to listen and still buy and play AAA slop, so its all their fault and they just pay price for their ignorance.

Fuck AAA slop eaters, there is not sympathy and salvation for you.

>>722887659 (OP)
Interesting, I got similar calls shortly after Battlefield 2042 released.

>not owning a motherboard that has a Q Flash button
Ngmi. Even if you corrupt the BIOS to the point you can't even boot into them, using a Q Flash option should reflash it to whatever firmware you have loaded up on USB.

>>722908107
iirc that is now standard on AM5 boards after the drama AMD had with AM4.

>>722891581
>I know people on this sub

>>722887659 (OP)
/r/thathappened

>>722895219
Which is crazy to me, how did they spend all that time systematically dumbing down their shit and not expect to end up with retarded users?

>>722887659 (OP)
i switched to secure boot and UEFI for reBAR (complete waste of time) and did spook myself as i was only looping in bios and not booting OS. but i just changed shit until it worked.
same way i learned to use DOS as a kid.

but i must be incredibly high IQ.

>>722887659 (OP)
>cod kiddies getting blacked

>>722887659 (OP)
My computer (originally a prebuilt but it's been Theseus'd with upgrades) came with Windows10 installed and I didn't have secure boot or TPM enabled for like 7 ears. No issues with anything. Suddenly W11 needs TPM enabled for a unanimously worse user experience in the OS that's locked to an online microsoft account and the nice fact they are planning to lock peoples computers down like a console so they can only use programs approved by Microsoft.

And right as Windows 10 is on it's way out, developers conveniently started making their own TPM-required anticheats that work worse than chinkshit ones that don't.

I hate what's happened to computing. If you told a tech bro 15 years ago what would happen they would call you a dumb faggot making shit up.

>>722907896
TRVKE
so sick of seeing threads for shitty AAA games, just tells me retards here will go out of their way to give money to these companies and waste their time on pure garbage. like the glorified skate general threads here, terrible game from a company that pushes the agenda and yet idiots will still pay for it because it's an IP that they recognize despite how bastardized it's become.
we're so fucked man, normalfags will buy slop, braindead blue hairs will buy slop, and even people who are against their ways will buy their slop. I genuinely see no way of us being able to escape this hell. DEI commie shit is here to stay and we have ourselves to bale for this.

>>722908305
You've discovered where most of /v/'s content comes from.

>>722888330
>bios corruption
>reversible
If you have bios flashback or dual bios (and even then it's just a second chance). If you corrupt your bios and your motherboard does not have those features, you no longer have a functional motherboard. So, no, it's irreversible, unless your motherboard comes equipped with tools that can reverse it and not all motherboards have those tools. In fact it's a minority that does.

>>722909272
Just switch to IoT LTSC. It's literally a one line command and running the LTSC iso to switch your current Windows install over without losing anything. The eol of Windows 10 has been by far the worst eol I've ever experienced. Even the transition from Windows XP wasn't this bad.

>>722887983
They're CoD players. No shit they're low IQ niggers.