Thread 722893932

It’s time.
Talk about 'rollaz, claim your caifu and talk shit about other anons caifus.
Picrel is what I’m tempted to buy.

seriously? just save up 100 bucks and buy the dualsense edge

>>722893976
>50bux vs 200bux
I love my dualsense. I can put the deadzone to 0-1 in all games without drift. the kit in my OP seems to be all I need

I don't really like any controllers any more.

Previously I'd just buy an Xbox controller, but they've basically doubled in price and they're not really nice enough to spend that much on.

>>722893976
>no clicky triggers
aaaand dropped

>>722893976
Its hot garbage on PC microsoft cannot stand sony interacting with their stuff.

>>722893932 (OP)
It's easy enough, I recommend it. Though I only got the back buttons

Their new kits are probably coming out later this month

reminder that if the controller doesn't have a swappable battery then it's ewaste, that leaves us with the xbox series controller and 8bitdo pro 2
reminder that if the controller doesn't have a chatpad then it's shit for pc use, that leaves us with the xbox series controller
don't buy ewaste anons

wen Vader 5

>>722898557
>too stupid to use a screwdriver

>>722898557
AA or bust, I don't want to buy their proprietary battery or to be left with ewaste once they stop manufacturing that model of battery. Use a universal standard or fuck off.

My 8bitdo ultimate 2 has horrible input latency on wireless on Switch 2, it's perfect on pc. Does anyone know how to make Bluetooth work? Switch 2 just doesn't recognise it.

>>722898691
>is ok with technology getting worse
good goy

>>722898740
>shitch 2
there's your problem

I have an Xbone controller. The only reason to use a gamepad is for 2D platformers and emulated 2D games, so I see no reason to buy or modify anything fancier.

>>722898740
should have bought the bluetooth instead of wireless model

>>722898761
Is it getting worse? I wouldn't know. I know how to remove some goddamn screws.

>>722898785
I play MonHun and classic CoD Zombies on the couch with controller, otherwise yeah

>>722898805
Why?

>>722898761
How the fuck is it "worse?" You still have to recycle batteries at the end of their lifecycle. The fact that you consider it "ewaste" pmce tje battery dies further proves my earlier point that you're too stupid to use a screwdriver.

my joy cons have stick drift after being used for 1 whole week
my dual sense controller won't stay on unless it's plugged in (literally used this 3 times then it happened)
my xbox controller is the only reliable thing that has lasted

how the fuck can a ps5 controller stop working by not being used

>>722898830
>>722898830
and yet you have a worse experience then people who bought a controller with a removable back cover

>>722898770
I bought it for bing bing wahooing on plane trips, but I grew fond of the little shit so I wanted to play games at home as well. Overall a 6/10 purchase but whatever, I hope Metroid and the new From game are good

>>722898861
That's the one which works with bluetooth with switch 2. No dongle, shake to wake, and I don't notice any latency.

My main concern with Gamesaar is chink spyware in their software.
Are there any alternative open source drivers?

>>722898912
I literally dissembled my thinkpad x230 to clean out the fan and apply new thermal paste, and doing requires you to use a screwdriver.

>>722898831
I wouldn't play a FPS game with a controller, for the same reason I wouldn't play an RPG with a racing wheel.

>>722898926
Either the battery is dead by overcharging or whatever or it doesn't charge for some reason. Try charging your controller via PC with a different cable.

>>722899030
it's zombies not pvp slop my man

I wish someone would make a PS5 controller with the WiiU Pro controller layout.
It was comfy, if it had analog triggers I'd use one on PC now.

>>722899000
no idea
checked

>>722899075
I've tried different cables for months now but I really mean I used it once or twice and never again. Tried it earlier this month and nothing unless plugged in.

>>722893932 (OP)
the gamesaar g7 is all a nigga needs

>>722899289
>no swappable battery
>no chatpad
nope

>>722899325
>battery
I play it wired like a normal person
>chatpad
wtf is that lmao

>>722899363
a chatpad is a keyboard that clips onto your controller

I got this bad boy for 15 USD brand new

>>722899419
gay shit, I don't need that

>>722899450
if you play on pc you do

>>722899485
>if you play on PC
>which already has a fucking keyboard attached to it

>>722899485
I only play single player games.

>>722899531
I'm talking about when you have your pc hooked up to a tv anon

>>722899557
as do i

>>722899572
Then buy a wireless keyboard? It's not like playing on TV will be an unpredictable event for whoever does it so they can't plan ahead.

>>722899572
omg this is the worst post I have ever read in this shithole

>>722899693
why would I buy a wireless keyboard when my controller has one built-in

>>722899914
it's much easier to type with all your fingers on a normal keyboard than your thumbs on tiny keys
also it's a full keyboard with more buttons
also many wireless keyboards have a trackpad included

>>722898557
>i'm too retarded to use a keyboard for typing
kek

>>722899914
Why produce more ewaste with a shitty chatpad when a wireless keyboard can do the same and can be used in more situations?

>>722899717
Salutations Sawbones

>>722900181
Why would I use a keyboard when a chatpad provides a better experience

>>722900257
that's simple: it doesn't

>>722900124
you have to remember, this board is full of 15 year olds who have used smartphones more than a keyboard

>>722900124
You can use the left thumb stick as a mouse

>>722899106
Valve's new controlelr will probably mimic the Steamdeck, so it'll be like that but with analog triggers and two touchpads.
And YUGE.

>>722900307
Why would I make a compromise like that?

>>722900287
but it does though

>>722900359
how is it a compromise when it just works

>>722893932 (OP)
Can't wait for the new steam controller. The steam deck spoiled me with its trackpads and I need them for everything now.

>>722900360
Personally, I don't think it does.
But I play at a desk, even consoles.
Putting the controller down and quickly typing something is easier than using a crappy chatpad with two thumbs at most

>>722898557
ewaste is not just about components dying without being user replaceable, it's about minimizing the production of useless tat, like endless iterations on an obsolete controller, like the Xbox.

>>722893932 (OP)
i'm still using a hand-me-down xbone s and xsx controller, the sticks haven't started drifting but i'm looking at controllers that have
>joy sticks that won't drift in the future
>extra buttons like back buttons etc
>wireless dongle, the only bt gamepad ive used with good latency is ds4
>gyro
>asymetrical stick layout
>under $100

I thought some patent trolls were sitting on a patent for "back buttons".

>>722900945
8bitdo ultimate 2

>>722901009
patents only last 20 years.

>>722901059
if i get 4 controllers can i use all of them on a single wireless dongle?

>>722901196
No. One dongle per controller.

>>722901009
Scuf still holds the patent I think but they "produce" custom dualshock and xbone controllers themselves.

>>722901253
damn, guess i shouldve specified that, dealbreaker for a steam deck/htpc couch co-op setup

>>722901305
get a usb hub? the charging docks are also convenient for this use case

r8 h8 commen8 elabor8

>>722901542
I have the same one. Love the color on it

>>722901009
>>722901141
>Anticipated expiration
>2031-06-17
A few years to go.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US8641525B2/en

Asked a few days back but can anyone recommend a controller that works natively with an Xbox Series system I can use as a replacement for the actual Xbox controller that doesn't require a dongle to allow its usage on the thing? The only things I found when searching were the Scuf controllers and the GameSir G7 SE. I'd prefer wireless if possible, and I don't want a 1:1 Xbox controller design because it already feels the smallest out of the big three.

I wanted to get a Cyclone 2 for this but apparently it needs a dongle to do this at all and those are at somewhat of a risk of either an account ban or just being disabled by Microsoft so I don't want to bother if that happens.

>>722893932 (OP)
where the fuck is it gabe?
fat fuck

>>722893932 (OP)
I put this on my PS5 controller that I use for PC games. Works like a charm. Elden ring was otherwise completely unplayable without having the jump/roll buttons on the back. And replacing the mushy d-pad/face buttons with microswitches made button presses feel way more satisfying.

>>722899426
how
its 65 eurobux

>>722905495
do you have the plastic or metal kit?
plebbit says the plastic one always breaks because of how flimsy it is and its ultra light to actuate

>>722893976
dualsense is probably the worst controller i've ever used after the dualshock 3

Anyone using kontrolfreekZ?
I have a very low one on my right stick only

This is now a Gamesaar thread.
>>722899426
Good morning gamesaar
>>722898557
Reminder that you're a retard

>>722898729
/thread

>>722905752
I got it from temu. I wanted to see if all that marketing was real, turns out half of it is

How dualsense reliablity these days? Do stick drift happens very quick or it's much better now? I still have my DS4 but dualsense kinda tempt me with the design but shits like stick drift after couple weeks and broken trigger kinda worries me

>>722901196
Yeah, just make sure it's a Bluetooth dongle

>>722909347
I got a bit of stick drift after about six months of usage of my left stick but I just did the "Push stick in and spin clockwise and counterclockwise for 15 seconds" thing and haven't had issues for about a year and a half now and I use it literally every day for hours every day.
The only downside of the controller is the horrendously awful d-pad, otherwise I despise using any other Dualshock controller, they are truly terrible compared to it. DS4 is okay but DS, DS2, and DS3 may as well be thrown out the window.

>>722902336
there are more xbox certified controllers coming out soon, and wireless ones. i think from razer and other brands i can't name right now. but give it a few months.

>>722909347
dualsense and ds4 use the same parts as far as i can tell. the sticks drift at the same frequency, the buttons can stick if you button bash too much and the triggers are still using god awful quality springs which wear unevenly. and good luck trying to open it up to clean it or repair it. ds4 was hard enough to repair. if you accidentally disconnect the trigger spring mechanism in a ds4 you'll be spending hours getting it back to normal.

How do you guys feel about the series x d-pad? I thought i would hate it for 2D games but its growing on me.

>>722910720
Absolute shit. Dual sense dpad is the best I've used too bad the joysticks are shit

>>722908753
>says the one who bought ewaste

>General

keep this shit out of /v/. We have a fucking containment board for faggots like you called /vg/ - Video Games Generals

>>722910720
Too hard to press compared to membrane d-pads.
>>722910835
I liked the DS4's d-pad more, but the DualSense's d-pad is good too.

>>722911016
But you can change the battery when it goes bad, hell you can remove the battery and play wired

>>722911081
you're being a nigger

>>722911104
ds4 dpad is dogshit

>>722893976
bought it years ago and love it, though it is a steep price for most people.

>>722911134
does gamesir sell replacements or do you have to roll the dice with no name ones, also having a removable back cover is better

>>722898557
Same post and pic every thread

>>722910720
Very nice d-pad. I like it especially because there's no mushy-ness to it. it's just press and click almost like a mechanical button. if I had a gripe about it it's the noise levels because it's a loud d-pad, but all the series x buttons are loud. I recently got an ES Pro and it's pretty much identical to a series x pad but all the buttons are much quieter and feel the same or better.

>>722893976
>shit stick layout
>shit dpad
no thanks

reminder

>>722911252
>same coping replies

>>722911348
I'm not the one shilling unreparable trash

>>722911406
Yea you are we had that exact reply chain two days ago. Why am I responding to a bot.

>>722911434
you must be confusing me with another anon

>>722911158
said the nigger who can't follow simple board instructions

>>722911484
now you're being a fag

>>722911406
Every controller is reparable, unless you are lazy or complete retarded

>>722893976
I got a victrix instead on sale not giving sony the satisfaction

"Generals"—long-term, recurring threads about a specific game—should be posted in /vg/. This is not to say threads about specific games cannot be created on /v/, just that long-term, recurring threads belong in /vg/.

>>722911589
the average normie will not open their controller to replace the battery and just go buy a new one. why are you getting mad at people wanting things to be easier to repair?

>>722911752
Then the problem is the people, not the device

>>722898557
>no gyro
>no touchpads
>no back buttons
...
>has the best dpad on the market ever since the VITA was killed off
>but it's in a retarded place
AAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCKING MONKEY'S PAW BULLSHIT
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR WHY CAN'T SNOY JUST ADD THE VITA D-PAD TO THE DUALSENSE

>>722911849
but if it was easier to swap out the battery wouldn't people buy less controllers and just fix the ones they have?

>>722910720
It's great, it's just too loud. If it was significantly quieter I'd be happier but as it stands it's just so loud compared to any other button press, especially f you have to press a direction multiple times. Definitely leaps and bounds over the 360 and Xbone d-pads at least.

>>722911752
>why are you getting mad at people wanting things to be easier to repair?
damn, you chinese shills are getting desparate at this point. Besides, what the fuck are you doing with your controllers if they're breaking all the time?

are you some raging retard that throw his shit at the wall every time things don't go your way or something? My ds3 from 2007 still works as intended

>>722893932 (OP)
>Calling it a general
retard

are the only things that all these non-OEM controllers offer extra features or cheaper price?

do any of them beat the standard stuff at things like build quality, better-feeling buttons/sticks or ergonomics?

in my experience, the xbox elite is the best for points 2 and 3.
if there's anything that can at least match it and not cost 150 bucks+ it would be ideal

>>722911974
your the shilling worse controllers not me

>>722911912
>but it's in a retarded place
I don't get why no one made a symmetrical controller with the Xbox d-pad.

I would like to build my own controller.
I realized that no controller actually accomodates my hands, I have to assume some unnatural hand position that becomes very tiring after some while.

Is there a controller that provides the hand position flexibility of VR-style single hand controllers/joycons while still being one piece? Like, having some kind of hinge mechanism in the center, or some controller that lets me adjust the handle size so I can e.g. increase the handle-button distance?

>>722893932 (OP)
How the fuck do you guys even get excited for controllers when ever fucking thing on planet earth that is a third party controller is just a fucking Xbox controller??!?!!?

DONT GIVE ME THE CHINK ANSWER YOU FUCKING CHINKS sit your ass down IM TALKING TO THE NA/EU bros!!

Look, I'm a Fightstick junkie, a headphone junkie, and I just can't become a controller junkie because every thing is the fucking same shit. Where are the PS4 designs? And I'm not talking about 1 vs the 10000 xbox design. SHOW ME THE 1000 PS4 DESIGNS TOO. And what about NEW DESIGNS?!? Like in the fighting game fightstick market there are so many different designs but in the controller market all I fucking see is XBOX EVERYWHERE


TLDR: Can you recommend me some non-Xbox 10 out of 10 design options, pretty please?

>>722912069
i'm not shilling anything, i got all my controllers alongside my consoles, and i never had to buy new ones because i'm someone that takes care of his things.


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>>722912181
>that text
only glowniggers and shills post that

>>722912145
https://gamepadla.com

>>722912145
ps4 design is shit

>>722912301
>only shills post things that are forbidden in china
ok chang, or are you pajeet? Both of you breed like rats, and are cheap labor

>>722912365
You realize your favorite controller is made in china?

>>722912353
Okay but CAN YOU RECOMMEND ME SOME NON-XBOX DESIGNS!??!!?!

>>722912365
why lie

how can a thread about controllers have so much drama

>>722912551
shills

>>722911081
Do you also say the same regarding the other V boards? Multiplayer overlap for example. Why is it different?

>>722912594
Yeah that 8bitdo faggot is annoying

>>722912664
>t. shill

>>722912464
no shit. That's not the problem, you shills are

>>722912534
damn, you must be the dumbest, blackest, most retarded nigger i have ever seen on 4chan. Do you not know that chinese have their own separate internet that you can't just access through google like that

>>722912035
They typically offer any selection of the following, typically most of them:
>TMR or Hall-Effect sticks depending on the age of the controller.
>Back buttons, typically two, sometimes four.
>Either the ability to turn on turbo or have each button able to turbo.
>The ability to macro button inputs.
>The ability to swap d-pad/stick/button positions.
>Sometimes the ability to change the d-pad between a disc or a standard one.
>The ability to change the buttons out for Nintendo/Playstation/Xbox layouts.
>Compatibility with DirectInput, Xinput, and Bluetooth allowing you to typically switch modes with some button combo or held button.
>The ability to wake up a Switch 1.
>Gyro.
They're also usually $30-$60 vs. the official $70-$100 nowadays and work natively in most cases. You're essentially getting the "Elite/Pro" controller features at a lower price. Many of them also work on the Switch 1, not sure about the Switch 2, so they're nearly always a cheaper alternative to a Pro controller.
>do any of them beat the standard stuff at things like build quality
Depends on how much you spend. The lower end $25~ controllers like the Nova Lite are super light and cheap feeling but they feel sturdy if that makes any sense. The higher end $50+ controllers like the Cyclone 2 all feel like official ones. If you go to the lower end $15~ range like the Anbernic RGP01 or Power A controllers you find in western big box stores they feel unbelievably light, stiff, and cheap and tend to come with caveats.
>better-feeling buttons/sticks
They virtually always have better sticks by virtue of being TMR/HE sticks which none of the official expensive controllers are.
>or ergonomics?
Many of them outright copy the SNES, Wii Classic Controller, Wii U Pro Controller, or modern Xbox controller ergonomics, sometimes just slightly bigger. The Nova Lite feels like a Chinese take on the DualSense for example. Generally the back buttons make these things feel terrible to hold though.

>>722908753
Any controller that doesn't sound like a mouse?

>>722912752
ES Pro

>>722912645
check rules of this board, or just take a look at this post which is rule number 6
>>722911692

>>722912752
Gamesaar Supernova

anyone make a slip xbox style controller?

>>722912698
https://www.newsweek.com/taiwan-china-air-force-pilot-winnie-pooh-xi-jinping-1793967

>>722912978
lmao, based

>>722912705
honestly, i got the elite but i don't use a single one of it's features besides changing the L2/R2 buttons to have a short travel time.

what are some 50+ controllers with good reveiws besides the cyclone 2 so i can look around?

i'm looking for something with xbox stick layout/ergonimics

>>722912145
Playstation controllers have always been the worst controllers. If you disagree you are at the very least dark brown.

>>722912689
>>722912698
Imagine being so upset over plastic. Let me guess, vegan?

>>722913158
nah i like to eat meat

>>722893932 (OP)
>Tidal-Hexagon texture grips
They look awful, but the rest seems pretty cool.

I feel spoiled for options and features with the Dualsense, and I can't really imagine using anything other than a modded one of those, especially since I'm a fan of the symmetrical layout.

>>722913158
>Imagine being so upset over plastic
you shills really need to up your game

>>722913109
>Playstation controllers have always been the worst controllers
Why?

>>722913384
>shit stick layout
>shit dpad
>shit triggers

>>722913092
>what are some 50+ controllers with good reveiws besides the cyclone 2 so i can look around?
The ones that I've at least looked a bit into and heard of would be
>GameSir G7 SE but it's wired.
>Cyclone 2.
>Flydigi Direwolf 4.
>Flydigi Vader 2.
>8Bitdo Ultimate.
>The Amazon Luna controller is alright if you can find it around that price.
Don't expect the things to work with Xbox systems, they have to be officially licensed, but if you want it for anything else those should do fine. Check multiple Youtube reviews, I don't know if there's anything better in that range personally, but again, these are what I've at least watched reviews on or heard good things of.

>>722913327
Shill what? I use mouse and keyboard like a human being

>>722913497
>no swappable batteries
their shit

>>722913554
sure thing brother, that's why you defend chinese/indian shills in this thread. Us pc gamers amirite

>>722898729
>>722913586

>>722913618
I just came to see all the shit storm

>>722913668
you can put double aa's in them as well

>>722913738
ok, fair enough

>>722913743
That's cool

what kind of retard recommends XBOX series controllers with ALPS sticks cause of muh battery.

What's the best symmetrical out right now? I just want the DS4 ergos, but actually durable.

>>722913158
Nope, I only use organic controllers made of living organisms and yeast
>B-but it's expensive to recharge!
Nope, my grandmother always buys too much peanut butter which serves as a good surplus of protein that keeps my controller at max charge constantly

>>722913965
you can mod in tmr sticks if you want to, also changing the sticks is something you do once while changing the battery is something you would do multiple times.

or you could just use a wire and never have to worry about batteries

>>722914049
I followed the whole engagement bait and "replacing" apparently isn't an argument if it requires you to open the controller with a screwdriver. I've controllers with batteries that survived more than one XBOX controller but it's a coin flip I guess.

>all of /v/ is just reposts and the same threads day after day
>get mad about 3 controller threads in a row

Got these for Gamecube emulation

>sticks
They're hall effect, the springs are extremely aggressive to the point I have to set a small deadzone, since flicking them in one direction can cause them to snap back so hard it registers an input. They are nice and accurate though, they have a true octagonal gate with high max values, I believe this is because they are meant to be used with original hardware
>buttons
Everything is microswitches, which is nice for the D Pad but kind of weird for the face buttons. I usually play with headphones though so I don't even hear the clicking anyway
>D Pad
Very accurate and benefits from microswitches, I played a bit of Street Fighter 6 and command inputs came out like butter
>triggers
They can be set to be analog or digital, I usually just keep them at digital even though it's not the most accurate experience. They are shaped like normal triggers and not like the OG gamecube pad
>ergonomics
They feel just like OEM except a bit bigger and heavier, I quite like it. The build quality is very nice, they feel less flimsy than OEM
>price
Got them on Aliexpress for $30 on sale, pretty happy with the value. Only the orange one comes with an adapter to use with original hardware, they both include a USB dongle but personally I'm happy to just use Bluetooth

>>722914393
battery status?

>>722912145
because xbox controllers feel fucking great in the hand. they never fail. even if they have half the features of a dualshock the xbox controller will always be more popular because sony cannot figure out how to achieve peak comfort and ergo. even the 3rd party xbox controllers strive to be as comfortable as xbox controllers but always come up short. nintendo controllers are basically a copy of xbox now. sony may as well just swallow their ego and copy xbox too.

>>722894684
Only problem I've had on PC is that the software for it doesn't fucking save your profiles when you make them on PC. It'd be a real issue if I didn't have a ps5 I can set them up on.

>>722914489
Haven't gone through a full charge yet and I've played for quite a few hours, seems to be good

>>722914491
Dude, the Xbox controllers have gained worse ergonomics since leaving the 360 era. The Xbone and Series controllers are so much more cramped than the 360 ones ever were.

>>722914571
no, I mean can you swap it out or not

>>722914605
Not without unscrewing them at least

>>722914652
rather use a wavebird then

>>722913497
sounds good.
i only ever intend to use it wired on the PC anyway

>>722914393
>Everything is microswitches
Disgusting.

I love modkits

for me? it's the gamesaar cyclone 2

>>722914491
What's your favorite controller regarding ergonomics? To me the og xbox s controller, that one felt like grasping heaven.

>>722914576
>The Xbone and Series controllers are so much more cramped than the 360 ones ever were.
they're literally bigger. that doesn't make sense. the 360 had a giant battery pack sticking out the back. the successors aren't anywhere near as bulky. the triggers on modern xbox controllers far surpass what the 360 had too. and the dpads. the 360 controller was amazing for the time and was 1000000x better than the dualshock 3 even with its meme sixaxis tech but every xbox controller ever since has improved on it massively.

>>722914576
the 360 controller is cheap garbage, but so was all controllers of the era. The new series controller is great to use and just work on pc.

>>722893976
>spend more for no clicky triggers and two less buttons
for what purpose

Is there a controller that's like the SteamDeck? I want a trackpad + 4 back buttons

>>722912490
Why would I recommend garbage?

>>722911290
movement is not binary
pressure sensitive buttons suck unless they have long travel distances which make them hard to quickly use
getting a d-pad that doesn't produce false diagonals seems to be impossible for most manufactures

>>722914898
for me it's actually the xbox one controller because it was wider than the 360 and even the series x which came after it. it made you clench a bit less. and the triggers were wider and had a better finger mould than the series x controller for whatever reason. so it was just peak comfy. if the xbox one controller was 10/10 the series x controller is like 9.9/10 but also has a better dpad and bumpers so it's better in some ways, just ever so slightly less comfortable.

i used to alternate between a one s and a series x controller earlier this gen because i'd always have one on the charging dock while i used the other so i had enough time to compare the two pretty much every day for 4 years.

>>722914942
>they're literally bigger. that doesn't make sense.
They are not, I literally just measured my wireless 360 one to my Series one. The 360 one is ever so slightly bigger. It also has significantly larger grips which made holding onto it way more comfortable than the Xbone and Series controllers.
>the 360 had a giant battery pack sticking out the back
Not the wired versions.
>the successors aren't anywhere near as bulky
That is literally why they are worse. The bulk made it feel better to hold and grip.
>the triggers on modern xbox controllers far surpass what the 360 had too
Sure, I won't deny that, but the bumpers feel far worse despite being bigger than the 360 ones.
>every xbox controller ever since has improved on it massively.
Hell no. It's more cramped, the Guide button being recessed is objectively terrible because it has so much travel to even get it to register which makes actually opening the guide menu and taking screenshots on an Xbone specifically horrendous, the ABXY buttons aren't as raised which makes pushing them feel worse and it feels like it has more travel than on the 360, the sticks are smaller and so much worse to use over time than the nice bowl the 360 had even when the bumps wore off, and ergonomically it feels worse because the grips are less chunky. The burger and menu buttons are better than start and back though, I will not deny that.

>>722914943
>The new series controller is great to use
I completely disagree. It's an absolute downgrade to how the 360 controller felt to use outside of the RT/LT and d-pad and I hate using it for long segments. It's my least favorite of the three systems' controllers.

>>722913979
For general use, probably still DS4 or Dualsense
Elves 2 has a great d-pad, but the Saturn shape and tiny sticks aren't ideal for everything
Gamesir Tegenaria Lite if you don't need anything like gyro or touchpad and want something cheap that just works
Both companies have some other upcoming symmetrical releases, Gulikit's should be this month. Most of the others on the market have issues of some sort, typically either poor latency or overpriced for what they are.

Are Gamesaar and Flydigi the best bang for buck for premium chinesium?

Are there any brands a notch down that have good latency and QC? Looking to replace my DS4.

>>722915884
https://www.gulikit.com/productinfo/1523654.html

>>722915884
>Looking to replace my DS4
Tarantula is your best option if you want to keep that form factor

>>722914898
DS4, believe it or not. I don't find any other DS comfy, though. Xbox-style controllers are just too chonky, though I've tried a 3rd party one that was smaller and pretty good.

>>722915923
Okay, I thought Gulikit was behind the curve compared to a few years ago and had some qc issues.

I was looking at the Elves for retro games.

>>722902336
Some Gamesaar G7 pro edition like the Wuchang works wirelessly on Xbox, I'm not sure what you mean by dongle but I assumed it's a 3rd party adapter like Brook? Wireless G7 pro is certified by Xbox so it should be cool.

>>722915884
Gamesir's aggressive with their pricing on most offerings
Flydigi's on the higher side normally, but they occasionally have good sales
Gulikit was hugely overpriced for garbage on previous offerings, but their latest releases have been fantastic price:perf, if barebones

>>722899426
>he boughtneded from gamersir.shop instead of gamesir.com
oh nonononono...

>>722893932 (OP)
What wireless controllers support wires?
Like they can plug in USB-C or something.

>>722915923
no swappable battery, its shit

>>722916246
Yeah, I meant the third party adapters. Apparently Microsoft potentially views those as malicious because it's how XIM and stuff like that gets used on the platform so they sometimes ban for them or get patched to not work anymore. I'd rather not risk an account ban which is why I was looking for something. $100 is pretty crazy though, hopefully I can catch it on an AliExpress sale at some point.

>>722915923
>long trigger travel and no locks
Shame, it's almost decent.

>>722915923
>No trigger locks
Is it using membrane buttons too?

>>722916570
why would you want a swappable battery and all the extra cost and bulk that comes with it when you can replace the controller in 5 year or whenever the battery starts to become unusable. it's a $30 controller.

>>722916570
You again? Stop shilling 8bitdo

>>722916701
>replace the controller
just what the company wants, no thanks

>>722916773
I'm not shilling 8bitdo retard

>>722916636
if you need trigger locks to get a kill then you're not very good at the game truth be told

>>722916689
yes which is a preference thing. i personally hate the feel and sound of mechanical buttons. it's like having a mouse click on your controller. membrane is so much nicer in comparison to me.

>>722916773
most 8bitdos don't have replaceable batteries

>>722916589
Xbox apparently requires a hefty markup for certified controllers to be used wirelessly, so they don't completely eclipse the Series controller's value. Xbox certified controllers with wireless below $100 can only use the wireless on other platforms, they're still wired only with the console.

>>722916570
Why the obsession with swappable batteries? If you REALLY need to swap batteries that much it's not that hard to get in there with a screwdriver, you can do it in 5 minutes

>>722916873
>making excuses for unresponsive controllers
just kill yourself

>>722916925
Good to know man, thanks. I'll wait until AliExpress has a good deal on it. Dropping $90 on the Switch 2's Pro Controller really hurt, and I only did that because I skipped the S1 Pro Controller for years.

>>722917029
or I can just buy a controller with a removable back cover and not have to deal with that. Also having swappable batteries means switch them out when they reach 0%

>>722917086
>ES Pro
>unresponsive

>>722917145
>Also having swappable batteries means switch them out when they reach 0%
fair but that's only really a factor if you have exactly one controller

>>722917292
retarded nigger

>>722917386
are you talking about the sticks or triggers? because it has hall effect triggers and the lowest latency buttons in the industry right now

>>722916873
I like mouse clicks, although I can see how it could be annoying on a d-pad

>>722914556
it works on my machine, but i also use DSX, both softwares profile thingie just werks. My edge face buttons started squeking thoughbeit

>>722917371
Or if you don't have a charging cable where you sit. It's a lot easier to do that then have spare batteries on hand at all times.

The only controller I own is the Steam one and I rarely use it. Even when playing souls games, I prefer to use a mkb.
The most use it's seen in the 4-5 years I've owned it is within the past couple of months, playing Silksong and No Rest For The Wicked. Other than that I used it briefly for Ace Combat 7 and some Forza game.
I like it. The input customization is cool.

>>722917145
Alright fine, what's YOUR best controller then.

>>722917679
xbox series with modded tmr sticks

>>722917727
>xbox series with modded tmr sticks

>>722898557
Swapable battery is waste of space, that could be used for other features, and material, as it needs more plastic and metal components. And those metal components can easily corrode overtime if you forget a used battery there
8bitDo Ultimate 2C, the hero of the people. Unironically got the pink one. Bought for a girl, got cucked before it even arrived

Regular batteries are better, you can even stack more for extra if you have enough space. The regular DS4 can fit three, for example

>>722911290
This is actually true, that's why I controllers are for fun, and if you want to go competitive, you should be playing on keyboard and mouse, or hitbox if it is a fighting game

If you're bothering about 100ms delay from stick travel time, you are actually playing to win, and not to have fun. 8bitDo Ultimate 2C, the hero of the people

>>722918703
there's nothing stopping these companies from releasing a controller with a swappable battery and extra features

>>722918703
I just don't like the angle of the grips

>>722911290
Nobody's claiming sticks are better for competitive scenarios. They prefer them for movement because they have the whole 360 degrees and can thus be more precise.

>>722919136
There is, physical space. Instead of using the whole space for a battery, you need to make a case for it, who has an opening to the outside, and an attachable cover. And instead of a simple two cable plug, now you have to shove metal connectors in it

>>722918703
There's plenty of space inside a controller's hollow plastic shell for a battery compartment, this isn't like with phones where they're constantly trying to cram all the components into as thin of a package as physically possible.

>>722919542
xbox elite series 1 has a swappable battery and back peddles, if microsoft can do it so can others

>>722912780
It's not so long-term or reoccurring, even if general is in the topic.

Does EasySmx make anything worth a damn in the $40-60 range?

Is there any good universal anti Snapback software? Ds4windows is good but it requires some extremely jank shit if you want to use it with an input device

>>722919920
There are controllers for 30 bucks with TMR or HE sticks. If chinese brands can do this why not MS?

>>722920357
and those controllers don't have a swappable battery, if microsoft and 8bitdo can do it why can't they?

>>722920357
Profit. Casuals won't notice, hardcore will just buy more controllers or go to third party. Third parties that want their shit to work on Xbox still pay MS.

>>722920462
Stop shilling 8bitdo

>>722920586
I use a xbox controller, also 8bitdo stopped selling controllers with a swappable battery

Sirs... I don't feel so good

>>722920462
Cause there is no demand? The only use case for directly swapable batteries is for hotswap when they hit 0% and you can't attach a cable. For the Xbox controller you need AA batteries around, if you get rechargeable ones you need an additional device to charge them. The 8BitDo battery looks like something that requires a specific charger as well if you want to load it outside of the device itself. I'd understand the bitching about sealed batteries that cannot be replaced at all but that doesn't seem to be your case.

>>722921028
>Mobile
You deserve it

>>722899419
the ps3 version of this thing had a built in touch feature that let you use it as a mouse. It works natively with any bluetooth connection to any PC. I was shocked

>>722921072
xbox has a rechargeable battery pack available

>>722921202
Bloody bastard sir, the controller wouldn't do the needful and work on PC unless connected and updated on mobile first, it's okay though I already redeemed the refund.

>>722921340
>just pay extra

>>722921441
its cheaper to buy two battery packs compared to having to buy two controllers and swapping them out when the battery on one goes to 0%

>>722919825
Might there be, but then you're WASTING space for a plastic shell and other battery necessary components, when you could just... Shove more batteries by daisy chaining them, or shoving a bigger one

Anon, a screwdriver is something that anyone who DARES call himself a male should have already. The only justification for a "swappable battery" is if you're a kid with an overly protective mom who doesn't even let you have tools, and if you're a kid, you shouldn't be playing with batteries anyway

>>722921663
You could just plug in a cable like to charge it like everyone does. You always have to option to write those chinese brands directly via contact and ask for a controller with swapable batteries instead of shilling microshits garbage while looking like a total retard for (you)s

Wired Xbox 360 for PC.
That's all I need.

>>722921884
companies used to sell extended swappable batteries for phones, the same thing could be made for controllers

>>722919825
Also, parallel chaining batteries is really an addiction of mine, I don't do it just with controllers, I do with everything.

My headset have three batteries. My street BT earphones have two batteries. My Joypad have 3 batteries. The only limitation to how many you can shove, is physical space. And if the capacitors can charge that many power without overheating, but that really ain't a problem when you're dealing with small stuff. But if you're doing experiences with things above 10k mAh, then you should think of ways to cool the capacitors too

>>722922295
Phones have no space, controllers do. And you should stop being a cuck and depending on the good will of companies. As long as you have the board from an old power bank, you can shove as much batteries on a self made one as you physically can

Literally, you can buy BAGS of batteries cheap for a few dollars online, and make anything you have get longer usage

>>722922497
there's nothing stopping phone manufacturers from having their phones have swappable batteries, picrel released in 2025 btw

>>722922852
the main argument comes down to water resistance and miniaturization. How much that argument holds water I can't really verify myself but that's what they're running with. Same thing with the audio jack

>>722911285
>muh asymmetric sticks
This is literal 2002 Microshill propaganda based on outdated game design assumptions. You have both thumbs on the sticks most of the time, doing so while they're staggered feels awkward as fuck.

>>722923163
galaxy s5 released in 2014 comes with a swappable battery and is water proof, if samsung could do it back them there's nothing stopping other companies from doing it now
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-galaxy-s5-smartphone,3908-3.html
https://youtube.com/watch?v=t-VekZP9jS0

>>722923308
wrong, most if the time you with have your left thumb on the stick and the right one on the face buttons

>>722923527
of*

anon, you do not need a controller thread every single day, you can't be that undecisive

>>722923790
if /g/ can have a smartphone general then we can have a controller general. it's fine to own multiple controllers for different genres. nobody needs more than 2 phones.

>>722924034
I own mouse and keyboard and 1 (ONE) controller. You don't need more than that

>>722924034
stop justifying your bad habits with other people's bad habits, just buy the vader 4 pro already or a gamesir if you want something cheaper

>>722912078
Making a good dpad nowadays is illegal.
Only microsoft has enough money to do them and chinks because they don't care about american laws

>>722893976
>just throw away $100 every 3-12 months depending on your potentiometer lottery luck
lolno never buying first party trash again

>>722893932 (OP)
I just dropped a 20 (twenty) eurodollar bomb on this premium piece of hardware, how'd I do bros?

>>722924945
is it the one with a swappable battery, if yes then good if not then bad

>>722924945
should have sprung for a 2 instead of a 2c, but still a great controler

>>722924945
enjoy your 30ms latency

>>722911213
Yea, that price is tough to swallow. Especially for me, since I often just ride out an entire gen with the controller that comes with the console. But I really want it. I'm waiting and hoping the Dualsense 2 brings over the back buttons. That's the feature I want the most.

>>722925224
Seems low to me.
https://gamepadla.com/8bitdo-ultimate-2c-wireless.html

>>722924945
After buying 2 ps4 controller that got drift after a couple of years. I dropped 16$ on this and it's pretty good so far. battery lasts a long time, analog stick feels good and triggers too, only thing I don't like is the dpad but I can get used to it. After buying 2 ps4 controllers that got drift after a couple of years, buying third party seems like a better choice since most controllers at 20$ price range come with hall effect sticks, triggers and a bunch of extra shit

Bros, how's the Ultimate 2 Wireless?
D-pad? Latency?
I had the 2.4g in 2020 and it was awful

>>722925492
That was me except I kept buying PS3 controllers since I got used to the one I had laying around. They're honestly total pieces of shit. I think console makers have such a big brand advantage they know they can sell trash controllers at a huge markup. Meanwhile gamesaaar and ASDFXD499SHOP on amazon have to compete with 900 other similar sellers shipping the best parts straight from China at cutthroat prices.

>>722899717
danke herr doktor

>>722923163
I honestly don't mind the loss of the audio jack anymore. Plugging in one of those DAC dongles that you simply leave on your earphone cable is no hassle at all. And it gives you better audio quality than 99% of built in phone solutions ever did. People used to walk around with these fuck off amp/DAC bricks with their own batteries, and there's no point in them anymore.

>>722924685
just say youre poor

>>722899106
I fucking love this controller. the battery life was insanely long and comfy in the hands

>>722927545
It was long because the polling rate is ridiculously low. It's probably the laggiest controller ever made.

8bitdo chads ww@

>wanted the yellow ultimate 2
>the green one was 10€ cheaper
the green one looks cool too I guess (cope)

>>722911290
without opening mspaint and showing you, a lot of FPS games actually use the "velocity" of your thumbstick movement rather than the thumbstick values directly to reduce this latency.
Valorant on console does this apparently, so if you are 0.5 left on the thumbstick and suddenly move right, you immediately start turning right rather than waiting for the 0.0 inflection point to begin turning right

>>722927204
$100 is too much for a controller no matter what unless its some quality hardware arcade stick. Best controllers were in the $25-75 price range for years now.

>general

dont belong on v

>>722898557
>if the controller doesn't have a chatpad then it's shit for pc use
Why would you need a chatpad with pc when you have a keyboard?

>>722911290
Playing a 3D platformer like Ape Escape or Mario Sunshine without 360 analog controls sounds like ass.

>>722893976
eww

>>722914972
gotta receive my shill bucks sir. now do the needful and get the dualsense

The Reddit problem happened to me, my 8bitdo Pro 3's colored buttons cracked. Sucks, too, I really like how the Game Boy colored controller looks with those. Guess I'll just filter over to the Playstation buttons I bought off Etsy.

Xbox controllers are all too big like a big clunky tablet.
And I'm not buying something named GameSaar
For me it's the DS4 only. Slick, black, new

>>722929787
>too big
I have two of these controllers and if they could fit into a PC I'd use them. Every other controller is made for tiny chinamen and has to be held precariously with your fingertips if you're an adult human male.

>>722929787
>i will buy hexbox but not gamesaar
hmmmm

>>722929987
My mom used to say my dad had shovels for hands. Quite liked how mine turned out. Naturally, I'm a proud DS4-er.

>>722912078
Like this?

>>722912078
One of the SCUF controllers is that exactly

>>722928392
the controller is solid, but the material feels like it makes my hands sweat more than with other controllers

I have a DualSense and the battery gets worse and worse as it gets older. It empties after like 10 minutes now so the controller is basically unusable without having the charge cable inside. Is this normal?

>TMR sticks have shitty linearity
*AHEM*
8bitdoe chads can’t stop winning

>>722893932 (OP)
It was never surpassed.

>>722933076
Maybe for DS, Idk. For controllers in general, definitely no. I still have two launch DS4s and they still give me 5+ h. I broke both triggers and bumpers on those so its not like they hardly got used.

>>722933150
I enjoy this phenomenon where chinese knockoff controller owners are having this battle of the gods over 0.0001% difference in stats, and meanwhile actual official controllers selling for 5x the price are universally dogshit and scratch themselves into drifting after 5 minutes

>>722933076
xbox chads don't have this issue

>>722933076
Yeah one of my dualsense's only lasts about 3 hours now. The other is about 5 but they're both dying fast. The annoying part is I rarely use them. I haven't even completed a whole game on my ps5 yet but the controllers have killed themselves somehow.

>>722933150
Gamepadla's linearity graphs are borderline worthless since there's no standardization for the testing process and they're performed by hand. Any stick can be made to overshoot, undershoot, or look perfectly linear based on how the stick is pushed while measuring.
Ultimate 2 uses Hallpi TMR, which is undersensitive the first 50% and oversensitive past that. Still one of the best TMR, still worse than potentiometer.

>>722933204
At being hot garbage yeah. What were they thinking with those bumpers and the cheapest feeling plastic in any controller ever made.

>>722933993
>The annoying part is I rarely use them.
The intended use case of PS5 controllers

>15 USD
Damn china, that was a solid purchase

>>722934617
>those bumpers and the cheapest feeling plastic in any controller
I'll not argue with that. I modded mine to fix this, though.

>>722893932 (OP)
Vader 4 Pro is the best on the market objectively. Performs better than 200 bucks controller at 1/4 of the price.

>>722893932 (OP)
VALVE PLEASE FUCKING RELEASE IT ALREADY YOU SLOW FUCKS!

Does anyone use the dualsense on pc over bluetooth? Do you think it's worth it without haptic feedback / speaker functionality? I'm wondering if I should get one for sony games or get a switch 2 pro controller instead

>>722933668
I enjoy it, because honestly a pad is more comfortable than a m+kb for s lot of games, and this race to the bottom benefits me.

>>722939338
Why'd you do that when you can get a bunch of goodies on a 3rd party controller and have an easier setup.

>>722939338
I did the controller run fine I have played very little ps5 so I don't know how it was supposed to be used but it was an overall ok experience

>>722933204
Any third party controller mimicking the Steam controller out there? I can't find one.

>barely like the 3rd controller thread this week
>we already have a local schizo (AA batteries)

$25-30 at Walmart new sometimes. Good and cheap, and for any size hands. They're edging the PS4 out but PS5 controllers are aight too.

>>722939338
The only thing I've played on PC that even utilized the wired-only features was the Stellar Blade demo. They're nice gimmicks for immersion, but they don't weigh into my valuation of the controller since they only really apply for PS5 ports.

>>722942806
Oh and tremendous start button.

>>722937457
How? If I can fix it I'll use it but I think the dongle is long gone by now

mostly using the Dualsense, having a lot of disconnection and latency issues using the wireless though, maybe getting a proper BT antena instead of a dongle would solve things

>>722945032
The bluetooth range isn't amazing on it. I wasn't impressed with the range on Elves 2, but I didn't realize Dualsense's is about the same or possibly worse.

>>722946859
i don't know what you mean by bad, but i'm less than a meter away from the dongle and its plugged directly to the motherboard, which is strange since other people left good reviews on the dongle i got