Thread 722898310

>Seems even worse than the first one
>The same reviewers who praised dragon age veilguard praised the fuck out of this game
>even though all they got access to was 10 hours, which is the first big area
how do you manage to be worse...

>>722898310 (OP)
this shit is gonna bomb like starfield

I just hope it's not bad enough that it sinks Obsidian, cause I liked Avowed and Pentiment and am looking forward to seeing what Josh Sawyer is working on next.

It's sad that Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky are behind this shit series, but I don't think it's their fault. It really is the working hands below them.

>>722898310 (OP)
NG4 gonna mog this so hard. Western studios should just stop making games

>>722898310 (OP)
I don't care if the game doesn't sell well. I don't work for Obsidian or MS. What I care about is if I'm going to have a fun time playing it or not.

>>722898775
NG4 is going to flop too. It's not a franchaise that people care about these days.

Funny how I barely hear anyone talk about TOW2 compared to the first one. It's almost like people only looked forward to the original game out of spite for Bethesda

>>722898408
sadly SAARfield actually made money

>>722898567
>but I don't think it's their fault. It really is the working hands below them.

I see Obsidian fans are still duty-bound to find new excuses for Obsidian each year. It used to be, "The games are unfinished because because of the publishers above them!" Now it's, "The games are crap because of the staff below them!"

>>722898408
starfield went trippy platty you pajeet nigger cattle

what the fuck happened to obsidian

>>722900574
>posts a Bioware game

>>722900574
The same thing that happened to everything and everyone else, leftists, normalfags and jews.
A three primary reasons for all world problems.

>>722900574
good talent goes away, women and pajeet replace them

>>722900574
They are the Chris Avellone and Josh Sawyer studio, they drove Chris out of the studio while Josh was mindbroken by the failure of Pillars 2 and is in semi retirement mode. At that point there's no reason for the studio to still exist.

>>722899660
>It's almost like people only looked forward to the original game out of spite for Bethesda
Then people should would have been excited for 2 considering Bethesda is only releasing shit after shit, except the 1 remaster that they didn't even make

I pirated Avowed expecting I'd get some fun out of it by "playing it wrong" but I stopped after an hour.
It's too boring to even make fun of.

>>722898310 (OP)
TOW was that game I wanted to like but every time something was getting really going, it'd be over. Like taking the trip up the first hill on a roller coaster, only for the big drop to be 50 fucking feet. The writing was done so that stupid people just following quest markers could still understand what a choice meant if they ignored 90% of dialog (actually good choice considering the market but feels like a shit on the chest to me).

I expect a second helping of half baked ideas. I doubt it's entirely Cain's and Boyarsky's, but people with so much industry experience should know better by now.

I enjoy Tim's YT channel, and after listening for some time it's clear he is just a programmer with good video game design philosophy, not some master lore crafting author of video games. Just a smart soft man with high value technical skills doing a job. He worked on Fallout, but is very clear about how he alone did not do this. He sucks at writing dialog (self-proclaimed), and overall is genuine about his skillsets.

Sad this is the game series he is currently working on imo. Wasted talent.

>>722900574
They drove Avellone, and probably staff like him, out
No one that's left is able to create anything of value

Its crazy to me how they put this game up as their GamePass seller and shining example of Xbox studio games.
The first one was already painfully mediocre and this one looks like straight up trash.

>>722901449
avowed quests were well designed. i thought the story was good and pretty decent about making the player choices worth something compared to most video games. on par with new vegas, story wise. the weapon upgrade system sucked ass. open world was the right size lots of cool stuff to find

>>722898408
starfield sold well. Its not a success, they wanted more staying power, but it didnt flop

>>722898310 (OP)
Who the fuck thinks that weirdass moon mascot has appeal? Why are they centered around it?

>>722898567
And I hope it finally destroys Obsidian precisely because of a game like Pentiment, they couldn't contain their progressive stupidity to fantastical settings and had to pervert a realistic historical setting in an effort to he actively subversive and malicious, good riddance.

>>722898310 (OP)
>I liked Avowed
>I liked Outerworlds 1
>I liked Veilguard
>I liked Immortals of Aveum

It's not easy being a gamer

>>722898310 (OP)
Both obsidian and Bethesda have fallen off so hard that Inxile is now xbox's best rpg studio

>>722900465
Yeah but the reputation it got Bethesda, they probably wouldn't make money on a Skyrim re-release at this point.

>>722902780
Inxile has always been a better studio than Obsidian, nothing Obsidian has made other than New Vegas is remotely as good as Wasteland 3.

>>722900574
You posted it. They can only scavenge off the work of superior devs

>>722902313
if "literally just a normal ass blonde guy" can work why that can't?

All that's left of og obsidian is maybe the logo in front of the building.
It is now riddled with passionless 20 something just showing up for a paycheck (and doing the right thing ideologically).

I only the played TOW base game once and never returned to it because the boredom had come down heavily on me during the game's back half and I had to force myself onward, with Christ-like determination, to the story's end, to my Golgotha. Did anyone play the DLCs and did they do anything to improve the experience?

>>722898310 (OP)
It's unbelievable how they learned nothing from the success of New Vegas.
>Huh, people like how gun stats are primarily based on caliber?
>Lets make our new game had arbitrarily higher damage based on levels and 'v2' weapons!
>Because that's totally reasonable in our SCIENCE FICTION world
>FANTASY ELEMENTS!

>>722904639
Aren't bullet in the game universal for the weapon type? (Pistols all share the same ammo, Rifles share, Explosives, etc...)

>>722904763
Yeah the bullets themselves are lazy as fuck, people loved the shitload of ammo types in New Vegas.
So obviously the correct choice is to hyper-simplify the ammo types!
That makes TOTAL sense!

>>722904117
But Obsidian haven't made anything as disappointingly dull as Inxile's Torment: Tides of Numenera – without question the worst of the new wave CRPGs. The offense is doubled by their appropriating the Torment name and marketing the stupid, lazy thing as a spiritual successor to the celebrated classic. Fuck I'm still angry.

>>722898310 (OP)
How did Inexile, the studio founded by ex-Fallout Tactics/BOS devs end up way better than the studio founded by the main Fallout devs? This seems wild to me. Yet, Wasteland 2/3 are way better than whatever the fuck nu-Obsidian have produced post New Vegas.

>>722904963
Because Fallout was made by a bunch of tards who had a competent tard wrangling ability.
Tim Cain comically has bitched about his team making fun of faggots and bullying him lmao.

>>722904963
Because Brian Fargo is a piece of shit as a person but he is blatantly a better producer and studio head than Feargus Urquhart.

>>722898408
Starfield is the most successful game of the generation and it's better than outer worlds 2 in every way.

>>722903093
Oblivion remastered has not left the top 5 best selling games of 2025 since it released. This is like saying GTA6 wont sell.

>>722905080
So Obsidian is when you give free reign to a homosexual (Sawyer) and the only games that end up being produced are narcissistic ideological mediocrities and subversive ahistorical garbage (aka Sawyer's passion project.

>>722898310 (OP)
>>The same reviewers who praised dragon age veilguard praised the fuck out of this game

Same reviewers that praised Balder Gates 3 as well

>>722904471
Blonde guy is so generic you can draw him doing anything and it's fine. Moon man would look awkward in almost any given situation.

>>722904963
Probably because they have Brian Fargo an old boomer rpg dev from the early 80's in charge who just hired his old former interplay rpg devs from the 90's after he got bought by Microsoft. Brian also sounds like he has a chip on his shoulder and wants to flex on the rpg industry with clockwork revolution https://youtu.be/tjeRn2eA3y4?si=7xQYm57Oudh4FA_R

>>722898310 (OP)
If its like the first game, the first area is the best and its all downhill

I hope we get another quest like that one from the first game where you help your asexual female paki mechanic find a perfume so she can go on a lesbian date with a third generation asian ship captain.
Lotta hair in that bed I bet.