Thread 722906621

>this hobby is over for me, games do nothing for me anymore, everything's fucking trash
>play 90's game I've never played before
>not only it's excellent, it makes me feel something for playing a game for the first time in at least a year
So this is true, huh. Holy shit, modern gaming is so bad. What the fuck happened? I really should start exploring old stuff more.
>t. 19yo brainlet

>>722906621 (OP)
I feel you. Whenever i get burned out on gaming i just emulate something from the PS2

>>722906621 (OP)
What I like about older games is that they fell different from each other, there's some individuality to them. Now every game plays safe, every remake tries to look like any other game in the genre instead of doing it's own thing.

>>722906621 (OP)
There also existed games that were just as dogshit and broken back then too. They just used to get laughed at instead of making millions off of the retarded masses

It was somewhere around when GTA 4 was released, when video games started transforming from niche hobby, to actual business products that you can make money from. From that point onwards, majority of companies started making games purely for money, and those with soul slowly got old and left, and are now in the minority.

>>722906621 (OP)
looks like ai

>>722906621 (OP)
i'm playing Oni right now. I actually WANT to play it and see more and find out about the world and characters. SilkSong was so shit.

at some point it stopped being about sharing your vision and started being more about carefully appealing to the masses
of course there is no more artists in the field anymore

>>722906621 (OP)
I don't care about what you said but now I suddenly want to replay Broken Sword 1 and 2 for the millionth time.

>>722909104
>carefully appealing to the masses

>>722909234
that's unironically different, games like these got paid up front by dei and blackrock
they didn't care if it sells or not

>>722906621 (OP)
You should play dune 2 just for the music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyTNopYGeYc

wormsign!

>>722906621 (OP)
Just go full-on into emulation, lil dude.

As for the state of the industry, vidya died in 2006. Sure there's always some good stuff coming out no matter what era it is, but 7th gen fundamentally changed the industry in a truly awful way, and it never really recovered. We are living in a post-7th gen, post-Gamergate, day-one patch, paid microtransactions, always-online world. Shit's pretty much fucked.

>>722906621 (OP)
I recently played Discworld and Discworld 2 and I had a blast so I know the feeling

>>722906621 (OP)
I wish I could erase memories and play Broken Sword 1 like it's my first time again. One of the comfiest point and click games ever.
>Paris in the fall, last months of the year, end of the millennium
>The city holds many memories for me, of cafes, music, love... and of death.

>>722906621 (OP)
play harvester, it's a good autumn game
https://archive.org/details/harvester-windows-10-compat

>>722906621 (OP)
Point-and-click are the worst excuse anyone has ever had for offering digital entertainment. They are all bad. ALL of them. It's insane how an entire genre can be bad, but these guys managed it. And yes, there are point-and-click games with artistic merit, but you can say that about anything.
If you find all games boring, but fall in love with a point-and-click, then you definitely don't like video games in the first place and you're right not to waste your time on them.
Point-and-clicks are as far removed from more traditional video games as visual novels are. They are an art form in their own right, a unique branch that has little to do with "normal" video games, with the difference that visual novels are at least good here and there, which is impossible for point-and-clicks.

>>722906814
I always say this, but the reason is simple: People had to make their own answers back then. As the hobby and business evolved certain expectations happened owing to prior experience and customer demand, and so it became harder to come up with something different that doesn't toast the fanbase.

>>722906621 (OP)
Playing Thief Gold for the first time atm.
It's better than 95% of everything released in the last 15 years. What the fuck

>>722906621 (OP)
the broken sword games are kino. I got the GBA port for christmas one year and it was the first point and click to hook me.

>>722906621 (OP)
why are you so equating the state of a 50 year old industry to what's coming out today? You're enjoying older games, why are you upset exactly? You have more games to try out to last you your entire lifetime at your fingertips already

>>722906871
When I shit on modern games I'm not talking about the derivative trash or incomplete buggy shit.
Game design philosophy in general has been shit since the mid 2000s. Quest markers, data-driven design over unique encounters and mechanics, etc.

>>722906621 (OP)
Some indie games are still very good, and might I add that emulation and de-compiling projects are taking off like a bat out of hell. Paving the way for an entire influx of retro games into the freeware "market." It's a gold rush of old is new, and it's looking good.

>>722913028
Even the slop back then is better than 95% of what's coming out today. Blood Omen 2 is the most comfy adventure game I've played in a long time.

>>722906621 (OP)
>What the fuck happened?
We're nearing the end of our society, that's what.

>>722913289
>Some indie games are still very good
What are some good ones that aren't arcadeslop or rogue-lite/rts? I like adventure games.
Tormented Souls was pretty good.

Point and clicks still get made and some are good. Primordia is on par with the best 90s games in the genre. Fran Bow is recommended if you want some edgy shit.

>can still play old games
>complain anyway

>>722912850
you are the most retarded person in the world
please leave us and kys with a shotgun

>>722913462
Ninja Saviors is based as hell, and a great game. It's a beat em up remake of an old SNES title. Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen is a great adventure game to try out if you haven't played it yet.

>>722913863
The original game is better anyway, might as well just play that

>>722911986
I dislike Discworld's interface, and I quit the first one at the point with the dragon in the courtyard. Also, everyone sounds retarded compared to the voice I had in my head for each character.

>>722906621 (OP)
Yep. Happened to me playing Beyond Good and Evil

>>722906621 (OP)
Boy howdy wait until you find about arcade games.

Old good new bad.

>>722912850
Shut up idiot

>>722913197
>why are you upset exactly?
because modern day stuff is shit. Can't you read?

>>722913648
>can't play new games
>stop complaining!

>>722916841
Yes. Objectively. Do you have any problem with that?

>>722917134
>good
>bad
>objectively
I don't think you know what "objectively" means.

>>722916932
I'm asking you why that is a detriment for you to enjoy the things you enjoy

>>722917070
You can play them, but you will complain.

>>722906621 (OP)
Nothing is more pathetic than someone downplaying themselves to please other people..

>>722917219
He wants to play modern games, but can't. So he's mad because modern games are "bad."
Everyone uses circular reasoning.
>nothing good requires more than [my PC]
>WHY CAN'T I PLAY THIS GAME WITH [my PC]?
>"If it sucks, why do you want to play it?"
>[buzzword tirade and bitching about Americans]

>>722906621 (OP)
Zoomers don't want to admit it but with the introduction of huge companies, gaming has become just another angle for making money. Games are made with profit first in mind and thus the quality and SOUL takes the backseat.

>>722912850
>that visual novels are at least good here and the
Abysmal opinion

>>722917515
>Games are made with profit first in mind
>yet they intentionally shit on the majority of gamers

>>722919120
Because demonic suits have no fucking clue what a fun game is because their only hobby is seeing profits go up and swallowing the souls of children.

>>722919120
Most of their existing customer base will buy their games no matter what.
And since that's the case, aiming for an entirely different target audience is best way to increase your customer base.
Unfortunately for the people making those decisions, the "modern audience" doesn't actually exist, no matter how hard their marketing departments try to gaslight them into believing they do.

>>722909316
>they didn't care if it sells or not
they definitely do care, because if the game had sold well that would have been pure profit for the company. their dev and marketing costs were covered by the globohomo investors with no obligation to pay these costs back, so every penny they make from the game goes straight into their pockets (minus whatever percentage of the gross profits was agreed to be kicked back to the investors). Additionally, the globohomo investors have started to pull out of the games industry because of all these mega flops. They've been throwing money at the games industry with the goal of spreading their pinko commie faggot tranny nigger propaganda to the masses. well that's not happening, these games have instead become a laughing stock as title after title bombs, and they're bleeding money with no results to show for it. that's why we've seen dozens of big studios implode over the past few years, as they've become bloated with all this free money being handed to them, and with it now gone they are not sustainable.

>>722919120
they repeatedly make the false assumption that their core audience will still buy the games, so trying to reach new audiences by having the MC say "trans rights are human rights" every 5 minutes is a safe bet.

>>722906814
Triple A these days just means "third person or first person guy walking around with a gun or a sword", walking around is a third of the gameplay, another third is spent fighting, and the rest is cutscenes and dialogue.