Thread 722913989

You may not want to admit it, but the generation is almost over. Only a few more years until the next-gen starts.

>>722913989 (OP)
Didn't the generation just start?

I mean we joke about the PS3 having been the nogames station and some tried to carry it over to the PS4 but both at least has their libraries, genuinely what came out on the PS5?

did ps5 even have ANY games man

>>722913989 (OP)
3 whole generations without games and they start making a 4th

>>722913989 (OP)
>you now remember that PS5 exist

>>722913989 (OP)
PS6 has no games.

PS3 and 4 re re remasters for ps6 nice

>>722914157
9th gen was skipped because the covid economy scam ruined the expendable income of most gamers.

>>722914246
7th gen had games.

>>722913989 (OP)
WHERE'S
THE
GAMES?????????

>>722913989 (OP)
>Only a few more years until the next-gen starts
Switch 2 is already out. PS6 will be 2 years late again and even Sony fanboys are complaining their PS5 generation was shit

>>722914157
>>722914195
uh... dark souls remaster?

>>722914343
I just want little big planet and the original ratchet and clank trilogy on steam

playstation 8 around 2038?

>>722914157
I don't know what to say. 2020 was 5 years ago.

Yo gonna buy Horizon Zero Dawn Re-Re-Remaster and you are gonna like it

everyone who's been following anything knows its 2027, only brokie esl jeets are insisting 2028

Why would anybody buy a 6 when the 5 has genuinely zero games

>>722913989 (OP)
Can't wait to enjoy the latest cinematic slop made in Unreal Engine 6 at a silky smooth 30 FPS (upscaled from 720p ro 4k)

If it's 2027 I guess I won't buy the PS5 pro next year

>>722914510
lmao who cares? 1 year doesn't make a difference when there are no games.

>>722914157
Coming up to 5 years old next month. The retarded dev times means that stuff is still coming out for ps4 and anything being made for ps5 will come out mid ps6. Shit is fucked and is just going to keep leading to nothing console generations.

>The PS5 is nearing 5 years old
Time flies when no games.
2027 is going to be a huge year for AMD though. I can't imagine a console being appealing no matter what they stuff into it. The PC market is going to be so far ahead.

>>722913989 (OP)
>Bought a PS5 expecting to enjoy it.
>Nothing really came out for it.
>The games that did all looked and sounded the exact same.

Nah im done with this slop.

>>722914195
Yeah, thousands of them: https://www.mobygames.com/platform/playstation-5/

>>722914603
>stuff is still coming out for ps4
Some leakers seem to suggest that's exactly why snoy is aggressively pushing for ps6. They want the devs to move on from ps4 (and ps5).

>>722914698
kek

>>722913989 (OP)
6 just isn't a cool number it will flop.
PS7 will be successful

I think the PS5 is regarded as a PS4 Pro even more than the actual PS4 Pro was

>>722913989 (OP)
>PS6 is gonna release before KH4 comes out
fucking hell

>>722914791
It's not the number itself but the combination of letters and numbers. "GTA6" sounds cooler than "PS6". The "PS" is really causing the problems here but admittedly "PS" sounds cool as fuck next to "7".

>>722914698
How many exclusively 5th gen titles?

>>722914917
seriously, people who bought the ps4pro got scammed, ps5 is the true ps4pro

>>722915036
9th*

>>722914157
The PS5 launched in 2020. The issue is that games now take anywhere from 5 to 10 years to develop if they aren't reusing all their assets from something else.

>>722914157
PS5 is going to have negative games. Sony announced they're going to license out all their IPs, right before the PS6 announcement.

>>722915171
This is a product of corporate culture and not anything intrinsic to the level of fidelity. There are tons of games with great visuals that are made by small teams in only a couple years.

There is absolutely nothing that demarcates a "ninth gen game"
This gen didn't happen
And for that matter Eighth Gen BARELY happened, the only real evidence of its existence is Bloodborne and RDR2

>>722915751
based knower. I always say 7th gen never ended.

>>722913989 (OP)
>10th gen releases right in time for Rockstar to double dip on a new GTA game
checks out

>>722915751
I guess you could define 9th gen as consoles FINALLY getting SSDs standard, a heavy shift toward digital distribution, and lots of bad RT performance, ghosting, and fake frames.

>>722915895
7th gen felt like it had two phases, really.
It started pretty strong with lots of "core gamer" appeal but then halfway through it shifted to all out marketing towards casuals and non-gamers.


All that said, the idea of hardware generations is bound to diminish as PC becomes more relevant and consoles become more PC-like.

>pay pig 6 is announced
>super mega nigga hardware
>but game still only play at 30 fps

>>722913989 (OP)
Can't wait for
>Life is Strange re-remastered
>The Last of Us re-re-remastered

>>722917148
The Last of Us Bigger Blacker and Gayer edition is gonna slap. Sony finna cook wit dat one

>>722913989 (OP)
How can this generation end when they haven't made any games yet?

>>722917058
Resolution doesn't matter anon. Didn't you get the memo?

>>722914989
You mean Kingdom Hearts? How are you this retarded. It took those retards like what, twenty years and a dozen spinoffs to make ONE game. Why did you think anything would be different the next time?

>>722913989 (OP)
b-but ps5 only has two games?

What's the fucking point if it will continue to have NO GAMES and the few games on it will run at 30fps?

>>722913989 (OP)
>giving a shit about consoles
everyone is moving to PC, only switch is worth anything because exclusive original titles (only way most ppl would buy a console is if they release a new console Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball/Rumble Roses, but that ain't gonna happen)

>>722913989 (OP)
I feel bad for ps5 pro owners

Men and faggots! Take your bets! How will Sony flood the market with its latest piece of garbage propaganda bullshit and make every PlayStation toddler believe their crap is the shiniest piece of rotten garbage on the market!

Will they:

1) Lie again about their fucking sub-par hardware that doesn't even hold a candle to a 5 year old PC, like they did with the PS5.
2) Flood the market with faggot-ass third person cinematic games made for faggot journos to make up hype and excitement for their newest gayest product.
3) Release stupid gimmicks like haptic feedback and adaptive triggers to triple the price of their stupid shit yet again.
4) All of the above!

>>722913989 (OP)
Imagine being a normalfag who bought a PS5 Pro just to play GTA6, only for it to be delayed until the PS6 releases.

>>722914157
game dev takes too long and the thing couldn't even be properly produced for well over 2 years to due chip shortage issue
they really should extent this gen because graphics are hitting a ceiling anyway but of course they won't

>>722918198
My bet is on path tracing

>>722918205
By the time PS6 releases, a PC version will be out.

>>722913989 (OP)
PS5 has one game. Don't they sell these consoles at a loss? What's the point of this?

>>722918769
normalfags play multiplats on these things

>>722914195
Astrobot and literally that's it.

imagine consoles with even more cache, devs can become 20x lazier.

>>722913989 (OP)
Duh. Did anyone really expect that sony would never release another console, or something?

>>722913989 (OP)
>>722914157
Will this finally be the gen where we PS chad will get first party games that are not remasters, tech demos and movie games?

>>722914246
Playstation has always been carried by 3rd party developers. Their first party output is always atrocious.

>>722914428
Not gunna happen. You JUST got another yooka layle game and everyone hates it and says it sucks. A clank game would just suffer the same sad fate.

>>722918939
I think it's supposed to be le epic pwn of microcock not releasing another console, but no one cared about that either.

>>722914157
concord

>>722918198
this isn't down to the actual speed of the SSD. it's because there's a read and write speed cap when you play PS4 games for compatibility purposes that factors in the internal drive also being used to record video. if you use another drive it gets slightly better speed from not writing video to the same drive.

>>722915000
Lol! I just realised that, haha! The PISSIX!! HAHA!

Aaaannnnnd Nintendo just won again.

>>722913989 (OP)
Im sure the $1000 console will justify all the no games.

>>722918892
oh, right. Game of the year, Astro Bot. wow, how could I forget

>>722913989 (OP)
I have a launch ps5 and no joke own a single ps5 game, Demon's Souls. This generation has been a joke. Most games releasing these days still come out on the PS4.

>>722913989 (OP)
>piss six

>>722919947
you kinda did that to yourself

>>722914917
The PS6 will probably also be more of a PS5 Pro than the actual PS5 Pro

That'll be $1199, goy. No games and no refunds.

>>722920050
I did not tell Sony to make zero worthwhile exclusives. Should I have bought the ps5? fuck no. But it's not my fault. I haven't financially supported them besides that initial purchase. I don't use the ps5 at all. Mostly Steam Deck and until last week Game Pass on my series X which is now sold.

>>722914770
Is anyone else besides MLiD saying this? The idea makes sense, but is it just MLiD's speculation or are other leakers also talking about a cheaper, entry level PS6 S/Handheld that's supposed to convert PS4 users?

>>722920074
PS5 Pro isn't even a significant jump in power to begin with.
PS4 Pro actually was twice as fast as PS4 in GPU department.

PS5 Pro is just enough to handle better quality upscaling algorithm, without resolution increase.

>>722915428
>There are tons of games with great visuals that are made by small teams in only a couple years.
Name 10.

>>722920261
PS4 Pro was also the same price as the launch PS4 - PS5 Pro is significantly more than PS5.
I have no idea how they'll be able to make a PS6 economically unless they take a Series S|X-like strategy like >>722920216 suggests.

Sony now has to convince people to buy a $1000 console to play the next GoW and FIFA. Switch 2 won because everyone else is retarded.

>we are 2 years away from Sony claiming to love generations before releasing a ps6 game on ps4 8 months after release due to middling sales
GTA5 going across the generations was supposed to be an exception, not the new rule

>>722914195
PS5 is the console version of the vita. Grim.

video game consoles are gonna become like phones, releasing a new one every year for $2000 each with no substantial improvements

>>722920430
>PS4 Pro was also the same price as the launch PS4 - PS5 Pro is significantly more than PS5.
Does no one remember Covid?

>>722915171
No one gives a fuck about photo realistic graphics. What are they even doing?

>>722914157
nothing
literally no exclusives aside from astro bot (a shitty 5 hour mario clone)

>>722914770
>They want the devs to move on from ps4 (and ps5).
Lol no
Whoever leaked that information is a retard or lying.
New hardware doesn't push devs to move on, it's the console adoption rate and price is the key to it, if it's 600$ for a digital PS6 then prepare for a 5 year crossgen period, if it's 400$ it will last as much or a bit less than what the PS5 did

Honest question: have they stopped making PS4 games yet?
I feel like practically all PS5 games had a PS4 version as well

>>722920831
Except the Vita was a financial failure and PS5 is Sony's most successful and profitable console.
If I was you I would the comment out of sheer embarrassment for doing such a retarded comparison

>>722919596
This post is so fucking dumb, so fucking mind-numbing retarded, it's not even worth addressing.

>>722913989 (OP)
>NeoGAF

I thought that became Trannyera, wtf

>>722921032
Nigga the 5 pro is $700, 6 ain't going to be cheaper than that.

>>722921121
No, next CoD is on PS4, Yakuza games are for PS4, RE9 is for Switch 2 which is even weaker than PS4. I guess we're just skipping gen 9

>>722921240
you can just say you don't have any counterargument and you concede. or better yet, when you have no argument, you can simply not post. but go ahead, try to explain why it's wrong.

>>722921412
>Switch 2 which is even weaker than PS4
This isn't true.

>>722921412
>Switch 2 which is even weaker than PS4
not the base PS4, no.

>>722913989 (OP)
Sony really wants to follow Microsoft's footsteps.

>>722921504
Sure looks like it's weaker than PS4. Looks like WiiU still

>>722920859
Well, it works.

>>722921586
Cyberpunk runs way better on Switch 2 than on PS4.

playstation 6

>$999 US dollars
>No disc drive
>PSN prices raised to $25/month
>$100 games
>6 month exclusives later released on PC
>30 fps

kepler also confirmed that it's MUCH weaker than the nextbox. hard pass.

>>722913989 (OP)
>sony had made more consoles than games in the last 20 years
amazing

>>722920179
You do know that there are limits to how powerful a console can be, while still being cheap, right? Everyone wants the ps to be cutting edge, but no one wants to pay for that. And then everyone bitches when it turns out the console is just on par with the last generations sixty-tier gpu..

>>722921374
Sure, it will. The PS5 Pro is only targeting 10M units in sales. The PS6 will target 100M units. Playstation can't sell 100M units of a console priced more than $700.

>>722920971
It's not even about exclusives and I'd be just as baffled by a new microsoft console announcement. There haven't been ANY franchises or even games to define the generation – exclusive or multiplat.

>>722920261
Breh, we have been on 4k for ten years now. Turns out, 4k is extremely demanding to render in, so it takes some time before we're finally going to get there. And then it's time to conquer 8k after that..

>>722921032
>if it's 600$ for a digital PS6 then prepare for a 5 year crossgen period, if it's 400$ it will last as much or a bit less than what the PS5 did
The Switch was $300 at launch in 2017. It lasted 8 years. The Switch 2 is $450 at launch. It's lifecycle could be shorter than the Switch 1.

The length of a console's lifecycle isn't about the tech in it. It's about the sales. If the console continues to sell well late into its lifecycle, the next gen gets pushed back. If it sells poorly, the next gen gets pushed out sooner. The Wii U sold like shit, so Nintendo pushed it out as soon as it could.

>>722921646
See that shit from 2020 to 2024? That's the death knell of any tech company: stagnation.

This generation hasn't even started yet.

PS5 has no games and we still have UE5 stuttery messes.

>>722921846
They're not selling 100 million kek

>>722920216
Even at that pure delulu Sony fanboy fantasy that shit still wouldn't sell because Switch 2 exists. Not sure how the PS6 itself will do. They only have temp. exclusives now and Nintendo got third party support. I think they'll lose 20 million sales easily

>>722921836
if it was truly cutting edge it wouldn't become obsolete in 2 years

>>722913989 (OP)
k, i will still not buying tho.

>>722921776
You'll pay for that power. The Nextbox will be more expensive than the PS6.

>>722913989 (OP)
>next gen console will launch about 7 years, maybe one or so more, after the last gen launched
you need pattern recognition below 80IQ to be surprised by this

>>722920965
I wonder if all the retards who went bonkers and killed someone during that time regret their actions now. Imagine going bonkers and whacking someone or driving into a group of people just because of a little bit of societal unrest.. lel. They'll have plenty of time to cool off in jail, though..

https://youtu.be/l1JEmnTjdyA
>4 years ago
>Nothing has changed

>>722913989 (OP)
>Playstation 6 will be a revolutionary console, it will have no games on release but Sony fans can preorder games for it on Day 1.
>Playstation 7 won't even be a console, you can preorder it with no release date.
>Playstation 8 you can't even preorder it, Sony will just knock your door and ask for your money to show your loyalty for the Newest Thing.

>>722922090
The PS5 is already surpassed 80 million somehow. People keep buying shit.

>>722922061
>The length of a console's lifecycle isn't about the tech in it. It's about the sales. If the console continues to sell well late into its lifecycle, the next gen gets pushed back. If it sells poorly, the next gen gets pushed out sooner. The Wii U sold like shit, so Nintendo pushed it out as soon as it could.
It still takes years and a ton of resources to push out a new console. Wii U was an exception because Nintendo combined both of their console HW into 1

Why do fags buzz about the nu console so much. And reeeeee when the current one hits 5/6 years, wanting the new £1k puchase to slop over.


I've had my xbox one 11 years nearly and it's fine. Games still come out for it and I've got a massive back log. The series X or PS5 should do the same and should be around 10 years before they even release the new upgrade.

It pisses me off how many people want the new generation of consoles. When the current generation hasn't even begun proper yet

>>722922090
The PS5 has zero games, has increased its price, has still sold 80M units and still has 2 years of sales to go. It's an easy assumption to make that Sony would want the PS6 to do at least as well as its predecessor.

>>722922337
The tech is interesting, and when there are no games its all you can talk about

>>722922329
How much time and resources it takes to push out a new console doesn't have much to do with how long a console cycle lasts. Whether a console cycle lasts a long time or a short time, you can guess the same amount of time is used to prepare for a new console. When that preparation becomes action, the actual timing, is sooner or later depending how well the console is selling.

>Wii U was an exception because Nintendo combined both of their console HW into 1
What are you trying to say? That Nintendo would've buried the Wii U faster if the Switch was a traditional console instead of a hybrid?

>>722922619
>How much time and resources it takes to push out a new console doesn't have much to do with how long a console cycle lasts
Why you even here dude lol, you don't know anything

>>722922528
Every game nowadays is just menu. And hud filled slop. The "tech" never gets pushed to its limits.

I played prey 2006 on the 360 the other day and that's a mid game. But the tech actually seems way more impressive than any slop on series x/ps5

>>722922337
Why do you care? Is a new generation going to negatively affect you ?

>>722922184
that's fine. the nextbox will play games from multiple storefronts and have more functionality as well.

>>722922943
Yes

>>722914157
Holy fuck, it came out in 2025 but feels like it come out last year. So few fucking original games and almost no great exclusives. God of War just feels worse than the old ones, TLOU2 felt bad compared to the 1st, what else is there even? Sony really blows.

>>722922859
It doesn't.

Let's say Nintendo started executing on the Switch 2 two years before launch. If the Switch 1 had lasted only 5 years, Nintendo would've still only spent about two years preparing the Switch 2. Instead, the Switch lasted 8 years, so preparation for the Switch 2 didn't seriously start until year 6.

>>722923038
How? Seems like the PS5/XS didn't negatively affect you.

>>722918198
>) Lie again about their fucking sub-par hardware that doesn't even hold a candle to a 5 year old PC, like they did with the PS5.
You know nothing about PC's

Please tell me how ANY Maxwell GPU holds up to a PS5 gpu or how a 6th gen intel holds up to th ryzen 7 cpu in the PS5.

Let's not even talk about storage or hardware decompression.

>>722922970
That's true. Or at least that's what the leaks/rumors are saying.

>>722923103
It's not a sandwich bro, it needs software, games, vidya, entertainment products. Without that you end up like Playstation. PS5 is still 2 million behind PS4.

>>722923180
https://youtu.be/HCvE4JGJujk?si=wmyEdU5zHckT5wPt

PS5 is barely on the level of a 10 year old PC.
>Buh how do they run modern games then
Dynamic resolution. Enjoy your "30-50 fps" 320p experience pretending to be HD kek

>>722918847
Then that would be all the more reason to NOT build and sell a new console at a loss

>>722921836
>You do know that there are limits to how powerful a console can be, while still being cheap, right?
I wouldn't call running at an internal resolution of 480p powerful, anon...

>>722914157
>genuinely what came out on the PS5?
Just Astrobot.

>>722918198
they'll brag about the power of the cloud™ like xbox did a decade ago

>>722923173
If you fork out £500/600 on a new console you want it to last a decent while. Especially if you've bought a lot games for it.

I don't want to buy the Series X for the new one to come out (If it does) in 2 years. From that point where would we draw the line of new console releases?

Every 3/4 years?? Getting more expensive each time probably.

I like playing xbox 360 games in my xbox one. I don't want to not have access to these ever. Will new consoles support the backwards compatibility aspect??

I don't think they will. It'll be a case where these games are seen as old and outdated in the next 10 years or so

>>722923416
Game development takes so long these days that delaying a console so software is available doesn't make sense. Also, as new console development is about to start, so too does software development for that console begins.

Rather than the hardware being timed to when the software is ready, software is tied to when the hardware will launch. Software can be rushed, because it is made mostly in-house. Hardware is ordered and produced by third-party companies at the behest of the console manufacturer. That means once contracts are signed and orders are sent, little can be done to change things. However, you can crunch software developers until they die.

Games?

>>722923646
Exclusives or multiplats, the platform royalty is collected all the same,

>>722913989 (OP)
Honestly way too early. It doesn't really make sense to release the PS6 in 2027.

>We have poor fags on PC complaining that console ports run poorly, because they have 10 year old GPUs.
>Xbox will undoubtedly leave the console market.
>The Switch 2 is vastly underpowered in comparison to both PS5 and PC

Is this the most filler gen ever? I cant think of a more filler gen but maybe (You) can.
NES - No
SNES - No
PS1 - No
PS2 - No
PS3 - No
PS4 - No

Maybe the gen before the NES.

>>722923907
>If you fork out £500/600 on a new console you want it to last a decent while. Especially if you've bought a lot games for it.
The PS5/XS will have lasted 7 years when their next-gen counterparts launch. Is that not a long time?

>I don't want to buy the Series X for the new one to come out (If it does) in 2 years. From that point where would we draw the line of new console releases?
So, just buy the new one instead of the XSX.

>Every 3/4 years?? Getting more expensive each time probably.
2027, 2020, 2013, 2006/05, 2000/1. Cycles have gotten longer, nto shorter.

>I like playing xbox 360 games in my xbox one. I don't want to not have access to these ever. Will new consoles support the backwards compatibility aspect??
I dunno. If it doesn't, you don't have to buy it.

>I don't think they will. It'll be a case where these games are seen as old and outdated in the next 10 years or so
Xbox 360 games are old. The first ones came out 20 years ago. Do you live in time capsule?

>>722913989 (OP)
Will Skyrim release on the PS6 before elder scrolls VI does?

Where the games at?

>>722924105
Think of it as the ultra setting console.

>>722923909
>Software can be rushed
Worked out so well for all of the flops this generation like Concord, Star Wars Outlaws, Destruction Allstars etc. Bad software affects your rep too

>>722923950
Why bother? PS6 will re-release them as HD re-remasters for 100 bucks.

>>722923907
>I like playing xbox 360 games in my xbox one. I don't want to not have access to these ever. Will new consoles support the backwards compatibility aspect??
The list of back compat titles on xbox gets shorter over time as companies pull licenses and microsoft chooses to WONTFIX the bug reports. Given the way they run the back compat program there's absolutely no reason to assume that even if they support it at all on the next hardware that 10-30% of your current games just don't run for purely legal reasons. Why microsoft did that and didn't just say to publishers "you don't get a say, the customer gets to play their own shit" I don't know.

>>722924414
The PS5 has sold 80M units. Those failures don't seem to have hurt it. The Switch has had 2 exclusives. MKW and Bananza. Not great games from what I've heard. No mainline 3D Mario in sight. No mainline 3D Zelda in sight. The Switch 2 has broken sales record. Go look at the PS4 launch line-up. Not great. Still sold very well.

>>722913989 (OP)
What a sad joke. They haven't even started utilizing half of the power of PS5 in their games as they just not optimize anything. And they not only want to skip untapped potential of PS5 pro but launch PS6 instantly. Have fun playing at 240p/24fps on your $1000 brand new console lmao. Devs are getting worse and worse with each passing quarter. Soon we won't even be able to reach more than 5fps per hour.

>>722924695
>we
You don't sound like a Playstation or console owner.

>>722924641
Switch 2 broke all of the records and Playstation is selling like shit, enough said

>>722924139
colecovision was kino you stupid zoomer

>>722922306
Elon Musk will join Sony and with PS7 they will develop cloud service for games that they will send straight into your brain.

>>722924889
Without a mainline 3D Mario or Zelda game. The Switch 2 didn't need banger software to sell really well. Neither will the Playstation, especially the games most people play on PS are third-party, multiplatform, and now often live service titles.

>>722925050
Switch 2 has 3rd party now so PS6 will sell like shit, consumers aren't retarded at least not like people think.

>>722913989 (OP)
Love all the ps5 exclusives like... uh...
Astrobot...?

Really worth the $599

>>722925125
The most popular gaming platform for consumers is mobile. I think they're plenty "retarded".

>>722924243
If consoles were cheaper I wouldnt mind as much. But their not. It'll get to a point where they'll cost over £1000. And you'll fork this out every 5 years. The next being nearly 2k etc etc

Vaguely have interest in the new resident evil??? Well better be prepared to pay top dollar.


Your missing the overall picture, these devs are ripping us off and new consoles will just be graphic upgrades etc.

We'll eventually lose backwards compatibility. We'll eventually lose quick resume. We'll probably have ad's during single player games etc etc. Stuff will get way worse.

>overall your getting less value for your money

>>722925181
this is only because of retarded gacha whales that blow $2k+ every month to roll the latest anime girl

>>722925318
>If consoles were cheaper I wouldnt mind as much. But their not. It'll get to a point where they'll cost over £1000. And you'll fork this out every 5 years. The next being nearly 2k etc etc
I don't think a new PS5/XSX is over £1000 yet. If that day comes, that's when you can stop buying them. And the PS5/XSX will probably be 7 years old when they get replaced. Not 5.

>Vaguely have interest in the new resident evil??? Well better be prepared to pay top dollar.
So, don't buy it.

>Your missing the overall picture, these devs are ripping us off and new consoles will just be graphic upgrades etc.
Alright, don't buy it.

>We'll eventually lose backwards compatibility. We'll eventually lose quick resume. We'll probably have ad's during single player games etc etc. Stuff will get way worse.
Possibly. You don't have to buy it if that happens.

>overall your getting less value for your money
Vote with your wallet. I don't think I need to spell this out to you Did you just need a therapy session? Well. Just. Don't. Buy. It.

>>722925476
So, what? The F2P players are less retarded for playing those games? I think consumers are pretty retarded. Whether they play on Switch or Playstation or Mobile or PC, like 80% of video game consumers are stupid as fuck. Do you think only 70% are stupid as fuck or something?

>>722924695
>They haven't even started utilizing half of the power of PS5 in their games as they just not optimize anything.
That's the sad reality of multi-plats. Games cost so much to make the only chance they have at turning a profit is to release on every platform simultaneously. Means the base game has to use only the common features on every platform and all the special stuff has to be tacked on at best. The PS5 is like a PS2 where it has the ability to transfer data around so fast engines can mix CPU/GPU and RAM/SSD with reckless abandon. But because unlike the PS2 era, making a PS5 exclusive isn't going to pay for development so you need to release on Steam. That means you have to NOT design your game around low latency fetches and buffer sharing because PC struggles at that. End result the PS5 is badly emulating a low end PC instead of the old days where the PC would have to badly emulate a console.

>>722922934
Far cry 2 from 2008 still has the most advanced fire propagation I’ve ever seen

>>722913989 (OP)
NeoFags is still around? I thought all the pedophiles jumped ship to form ReshitEra and the original site died.

>>722925592
Reddits that way

>>722914157
The PS5 is a ghost console. I have never even seen one IRL before, I know scalpers were hoarding them on release, I wonder if they just kept them or something because I have never even seen one for sale before.

>>722926026
You should play Alone in the Dark from 2008

>>722924641
>The PS5 has sold 80M units

Suuure bwo
Now post the software attach rate

>>722917058
Saar you must understand that UE5 is non negotiable

>>722926379
two of my friends have it, one of which had it as a dedicated marvel rivals machine last time he mentioned

>>722923954
not needed when your opposition is microsoft. sony are asleep at the wheel. ms' disastrous mismanagement has them feeling so safe they think they never have to do anything again and can keep letting western studios flop with woke slop because hey, nobody is going to switch to xbox and GPUs are still expensive so console gamers aren't switching to PC any more since ~2018.

>>722917058
>upscales from like 360p to "native" 4k
>AI everything
>"cutting edge"
>every game has ghosting, brap fog, and cartoon smears
grim

>>722914195
About 18 in total.

Astro Bot
Astro's Playroom
C-Smash VRS New Dimension
Death Stranding 2: On the Beach
Demetrios: The Big Cynical Adventure – Replastered
Demon's Souls (2020 video game)
Destruction AllStars
Ghost of Yōtei
Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet
Marvel's Wolverine
Neptunia ReVerse
Paper Beast Enhanced Edition
Project Jinyiwei
Quantum Error
Quantum State (video game)
R-Type Final 3 Evolved
Saros (video game)
Silent Hill: The Short Message

>>722913989 (OP)
Who cares, I'm done with home consoles. Sony and Microsoft can both go blow it out of their asses.

>>722924243
>Is that not a long time?
I think the reason this gen didn't feel long is because it's the first time where it genuinely feels like a gen didn't truly start until like 3 years after release. It was hard to even get a PS5 until then and most games were still just 8th gen games but PS5/Series X runs them at "4k"/60fps, so at the beginning of the gen it just felt like your system was a Super PS4 Pro and Super Xbox One X. It wasn't that long ago that companies finally started ditching 8th gen versions (although some still do them) and now we're already gearing up for the release of 10th generation systems

>>722914195
Yeah, it had, it-it had, uh...

>>722914157
demon's souls remake

I was about to mention Gran Turismo 7 but they also had a ps4 launch. I swear every playstation gen used to have at least two Gran Turismo entries

>>722921776
It's $800+ while the next gen Xboxes will range from $700-$1200+ with the first console being around $1200. I don't give a shit about either but good luck trying to sell that.

>>722922970
If it isn't on the Microsoft Store, prepare for shit performance. I rather get Steam over a piece of shit trying to sell Steam to me. Why get a console/handheld that has to go through hoops to play Steam games over getting the handheld with the SteamOS built right into it with trackpads?

>>722913989 (OP)
I converted the PS3 into a proper catwarmer, I don't need new ones anymore

>>722919831
They aren't even fucking DOING anything how the fuck are Microsoft and Sony assfucking themselves this hard with zero competition?!? At this rate Nintendo is going to be the only console left in 10 years time, it will all be handhelds and PC. I can't believe those Nintendo + PC Idorts were right about everything.

>>722920971
You're confusing Astro's Playroom with Astro Bot

>>722923628
Go learn more about PC's motherfucker, we literally know what a PS5 GPU is, it's a rx 6700.

Here I'll give you some help.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ko0SxXyS1ow&pp=ygUXcHM1IGdwdSBkaWdpdGFsIGZvdW5kcnk%3D

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-6700.c3716

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vc9vQOAtRbM&pp=0gcJCRsBo7VqN5tD

>>722913989 (OP)
ps6 already? but ps5 has no games

>>722927582
The last GTA game came out on the PS3. Gaming generations are fucked right now.

>>722928115
>I can't believe those Nintendo + PC Idorts were right about everything
PC basically can't lose, piracy + free online is too good
Nintendo won as soon as they made NS1, hardware/portable hybrid model is way too convenient

>>722917058
Believe it or not there has been some cases where the games CAN run at 60 fps but the devs refuse to budge from 30
sony or nintendo can come out tomorrow with a console that can do nothing but 60 and there will be 30 fps games on it

>>722928591
pc and nintendo cant play gta 6 though

Nextbox clears.

>>722928726
Xbox could give away free games and blow jobs and it still wouldn't sell. I don't see why Microsoft is even wasting their money on another console.

>>722913989 (OP)
I can't wait for the PS6 to have negative games on launch.
>launches with ports of ports

>>722928712
Give it a few months tops

>>722914157
It had a fuckton of games. The fact that they ported most games to steam doesn't mean the title disappear from the console. Of course tendies will grasp at straws to smear sony consoles but I find funny how anti-exclusives (games that come out everywhere except on one system) are never pointed out as nintendo has the highest rate.

>>722929042
It's solely because the Switch was so easy to emulate that anybody that cared about playing the exclusives got to do so for free. If the Switch 2 isn't as viable for emulation then a lot more people will complain.

>>722929038
A few years probably. Nintendo sux

>>722929038
GTA 6 won't come out on the Switch 2. GTA5 maybe.

>>722929272
Delusional sony fanboy

>>722927292
>screenshot
ha, I have to chuckle every time I see that guy because of the scene where he gets crushed from the sides and literally becomes 2D for a while. cartoony effects like that are extremely underused in video games.

>>722929504
It’s highly likely not. Rockstar has only announced it for ps5 and Xbox.

>>722913989 (OP)
Had a ps1 to ps5 since i was a new born baby. Cant see myself buying ps6 at all lol. I dont understand the purpose of a ps6 when they didn't even use the full extent of the ps5

>>722925318
>new consoles will just be graphic upgrades
No fucking shit, sherlock. That's literally their main function, that's literally how modern computer/console technology is supposed to progress.

>>722925823
Lol the ps5/xbox games are literally rendered at 800p in many cases. Trust me, they've hit the celing already, there's no way to go from here, but straight forward.

>>722929504
The series S is going to struggle with it. You think the Switch 2 can handle it, alongside the online components?

>>722927292
You just had to include GOY in that list, didn't you?

>>722930203
Yeah but death stranding 2 was 1440p at 60fps. Call of duty is 1440p at 120fps too I think

>>722928854
>I don't see why Microsoft is even wasting their money on another console
Because they're no longer making the box around the chip, they only worked on the modular APU with AMD.

they are 100% not releasing it till trump is out of office

>normalfags pay hundreds if not 1000+ yearly for the new iphone model
>one playstation swap every 7 years is too expensive

i will never understand it

>>722930230
Sure why not, Xbox is dead too so companies like T2 doesn't have any options nowadays

>>722930332
>he thinks this will be over in just 4 years
You poor sweet summer child

>>722930467
Brah. When you buy a smartphone they literally throw shit in like a PS5 for free.

>>722919501
That one un-came out

>>722930327
And i said "in many cases", not ALL cases..

>>722930467
>$1000+ iphone does more than some $1000+ home console that only plays games
It's easy to understand, one is important to life, the other isn't.

>>722930467
smartphones are literally modern "cyberware". Its an extension of you. You use it 24/7

Post yfw when games STILL have to be made for PS4 first

>>722913989 (OP)
the PS6 and FF7R Part 3 are coming out at teh same time.

>>722930467
smartphones are leased 24 months at a time and when it runs out they just get the newest version for another lease

>>722930796
yes a great purchase if you don't have one but i mean people who upgrade their phone yearly for literally zero technical reason

>>722923180
Don't embarrass yourself more, please...

>>722930796
>I must spend $1000 to make phone calls with the highest tier data plan with my Big Carrier
good goy

>>722921032
>5 year crossgen period
>5 years after launch, announcement for PS7

>>722930830
the switch 2 problem is worse because that bastard has to be supported till 2031

>>722920969
People have literally always cared about realism in vidya. No, le old games are not exempt.

>>722913989 (OP)
But ps5 barely got any games at all and they're planning on release ps6 already?

PSCHADS
we can't stop winning

>>722920407
Every Inticreates game.

>>722918198
>>722930935
There is nothing more infuriating than tech illiterate console warriors. If you lack even surface level knowledge of a subject then you should shut the fuck up instead of hoping that you can somehow randomly guess into being right.

>>722914157
Its an age thing, younger people feel like its due for a new one.
Keep in mind that people who got a ps5 at 13 are 18 now

>>722930927
>>722930951
>he doesnt trade in his phone and get new one significantly cheaper
bonus
>you MUST buy a new one each year
hello saar

ps5 would have had triple game output were it not for jim ryans disastrous opinion on old games + GaaS games

ps6 generation will see significantly more games

>>722928115
Sony is going Microsoft's direction. They're just boiling the frog with their method unlike Microsoft's where they threw the frog on a hot skillet.

>>722931172
So? Fuck em. I had to wait half an age between the ps3 and ps4, do now it's their turn to wait. Why shouldn't they suffer? Why should i be the only one who suffered?

>>722914195
Devil May Cry 5 Special Edition

>>722931585
ames.

>>722931585
*Also on PC

>>722930935
You should at least be aware of your ignorance rather than proudly display it, but since you like Gamer Nexus I'll use the same source.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZnhFA-r_YvA&pp=ygUYR2FtZXIgbmV4dXMgMTA2MCByZXZpc2l0#

Hin, hint, the PS5 is on par or stronger than the rx 5700xt, the 980ti is also there as an useful metric, since that was the strongest non Titan GPU in 2015.

>>722931210
This time for sure haha...
I'm still not buying it, good luck though.

>>722930301
I literally just copy pasted the Wikipedia entry and formatted it better.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:PlayStation_5-only_games


PlayStation 5-only games redirects to list (95 P)

Pages in category "PlayStation 5-only games"

The following 18 pages are in this category, out of 18 total. This list may not reflect recent changes.

A
Astro Bot
Astro's Playroom
C
C-Smash VRS New Dimension
D
Death Stranding 2: On the Beach
Demetrios: The Big Cynical Adventure – Replastered
Demon's Souls (2020 video game)
Destruction AllStars
G
Ghost of Yōtei
I
Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet
M
Marvel's Wolverine
N
Neptunia ReVerse
P
Paper Beast Enhanced Edition
Project Jinyiwei
Q
Quantum Error
Quantum State (video game)
R
R-Type Final 3 Evolved
S
Saros (video game)
Silent Hill: The Short Message
C
C-Smash VRS New Dimension
D
Death Stranding 2: On the Beach
Demetrios: The Big Cynical Adventure – Replastered
Demon's Souls (2020 video game)
Destruction AllStars
G
Ghost of Yōtei
I
Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet
M
Marvel's Wolverine
N
Neptunia ReVerse
P
Paper Beast Enhanced Edition
Project Jinyiwei
Q
Quantum Error
Quantum State (video game)
R
R-Type Final 3 Evolved
S
Saros (video game)
Silent Hill: The Short Message

>>722931585
i see only two exclusives here and ghost of yotei is practically guaranteed to come to pc as well

My AMD bags have done a +100% since I boughted them, is HODLing at this point nothing but greed ?

>>722923628
This shit is fucking embarrassing...

People were memeing in 2012 about the 'glorious 60fps.' 13 years later, and it's still not the standard for console retards. Not only that, but native resolution has been cut in more than half...

>>722913989 (OP)
Absolutely not buying this shit fuck that.

>>722928373
I'm sure it identifies as an RX 6700. Just like the fags at Sony HQ who made it identify as women...

>>722932020
Worse on pc.

>>722932149
it's not for you anyway

>>722932425
?
Is that a "I prefer the pointy hat" moment?

>>722914385
no games

>>722932020
Rough

>>722913989 (OP)
I literally only care about Steam Deck 2.

>>722933003
This, Switch and Steam Deck won me over, I can only get a Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2, nothing else.

>>722914603
It's not just the retarded dev times. It's Sony putting all of their single player devs on GAAS

>>722933672
Don't ally with me tendy.

>>722933941
Too late, Fate had us meet as foes, but this industry will make us brothers!

>>722913989 (OP)
They said a few years, so 2028 minimum
>>722914574
Next consoles will be capable of actual rt/path tracing though. Still wouldn't expect anywhere near even 4070 super/5070/3090ti performance though, so yeah look forward to a lot of 540p (but that's fine with a dlss tier upscale + distant tv screen)

>>722932012
Dump half of it, buy into Intel

>>722915751
All we're doing is playing catch up with tech. Realistically, we shouldn't have been doing raytracing for a LEAST 2 gens yet we persued it because normalfags need fancy graphics.
We're going to spend the next few gens going
>x feature, but it's slightly smoother now
Because rather than optimizing shit, devs will be using the extra power to run their slop unoptimized

>>722915751
bloodborne is barely any different to the souls games that came before it. It's good but there's no generational leap there.

>>722915081
True. What people thought the PS4 Pro would do for PS4 games is what the PS5 does.

And the story is repeating again with the PS5 Pro because at the end of the day the main problem is not the Gpu but the underpowered Cpu. The PS5 Pro's Gpu is literally twice the size of the base PS5's but the games still look and run like shit because the Cpu is the actual bottleneck just like it happened with PS4. The Gpu's are too big and powerful while the Cpu's are just too fucking weak.

>>722934361
>we shouldn't have been doing raytracing for a LEAST 2 gens yet we persued it because normalfags need fancy graphics.
You say that but I can't even tell when something is raytracing most times. Fancy graphics would be more res or frames, this is just techwank

>>722934562
Ray tracing is accurate but that is not the only reason to adopt it. Ray Tracing is essentially automatic and very easy to modify and get the results you want. It helps speeding up development. Problem is that current gen consoles were not prepared for it, so ray tracing adoption has been slow.

People will be surprised at how cheap, small and efficient the PS6 is gonna be. You are not ready.

>>722935290
>how cheap
$1000
>small
Which Yu-Gi-Oh character design is it gonna rip off? I bet it'll be Marik.
>efficient
On the home menu only. Games will struggle to reach 45fps

>>722913989 (OP)
I see Jim Ryan is still there in spirit. Maybe its just the mindset of all PlayStation CEOs to make bad business decisions.

>>722936245
He had to be known for something else other than crying in every court around the world.

>>722937108
Yeah, discontinuing the replay ability of old games

>>722934020
Christ help me.

>>722935290
Games take longer to develop now than before RT so I find that doubtful.

>>722913989 (OP)

So the Piss5 is an absolute FAILURE.

>>722936245
Love that guy. He always brings the funny.

>>722923180
>>722931168
>L-LOOK IN THEORY IT PERFORMS JUST AS WELL AS A GOOD GPU
so why don't we see that in reality?

>>722938880
>m-maybe if i start saying whatever pops into my head it'll be right!
nope doesn't work that way sorry

>>722927292
>VR slop, games that are coming to PC, games that aren't even out yet and remakes
holy grim

>>722938961
>no argument
exactly

>>722937993
>sell more than 80 million consoles
>get retards to buy PS+
>increase the price of PS+
>financials reported yearly show its raking in money
>"fail"
Unfortunately for the world these companies are going to keep doing this faggot shit.

>>722939332
it is not possible to argue with someone who doesn't know what they're talkign about. you can't even understand what people are trying to tell you, wtf is even the point?

>>722920042
>PSSR
>PS6
>get the pisser on your pissix

>>722939453
>b-but the architecture
>b-but the SSD
>b-but pisser
20 years later and snoys are still falling for the power of the cell

>>722913989 (OP)
just in time for genshin impact khaenriah chapter

>>722940046
>instead of dying out we will live to see path traced genshin
I don't know how to feel about this

Shit. By the time the PS6 Pro comes out, we may finally get a PS5 game.

>>722939851
It has been explained to you multiple times but you have ignored those posts because you are a mentally ill console warrior. There's something wrong with your brain that makes you act like this, and your life is no doubt full of suffering because you are trapped in a body with a malfunctioning brain. You've probably considered suicide before, and I want you to know that you should have acted on those suicidal thoughts because it really is the only way for you to escape the torment of mental illness. Therapy will not help, anti-psychotics are a bandaid, the only real solution for your problems is to look up a painless suicide method and go through with it. There is no need to continue suffering and spending your life posting the same images on 4chan for several years straight while refusing to engage with anyone willing to have a conversation with you.

>>722940163
>wall of cope
>zero (0) arguments
everytime

>>722940273
Arguments have been posted, you simply stop responding when people post them because of your mental illness. Your life will never get better because of your illness and your only way out is suicide.

>>722932924
it's a "snoys don't know what they're talking about" moment

>>722927292
>>722929527
What game is that? The texture work is fantastic.

>>722940371
see >>722932924
you can talk about how theoretically the PS5 is the bestest shit ever. reality says otherwise

>>722940382
History repeats itself

>>722940371
Imagine spending your time defending Sony of all companies on /v/ and daring to say anything about mental illness

>>722940479
This is the post where you stopped responding because your mental illness has caused your brain to be too invested in console war shit.
>>722931865
You will continue to not respond to this. Your ego is tied to arguing over toys produced by companies that would gladly murder you to make a number on a spreadsheet increase, acknowledging that all of this is a ridiculous waste of time would cause you to have a mental breakdown.

>>722940703
bad news to you, that ain't me

>>722931585
>ONE exclusive game
>ps5 is 700 dollars for ONE game
Truly, why THE FUCK would you ever buy a console over a PC?!
>muh cost
If you bought the ps5 and will buy the ps6, you couldnt have bought a 1000 pc and upgraded a component ot two and be at the same price but more games, older games, free games, dont pay for ps+, mods, fan games, ability to multitask, and better performance on top. Like truly, consoles are for people who cant buy their own shit, aka, children. Anyone who is cost effective or enjoys playing games would buy a pc.

>>722940925
There we go again, ignoring actual arguments and tests posted because of your mental illness.

>>722941031
that post isn't proving shit tho. you posted gamers nexus comparing GPUs and once again just said the PS5 is equal to a GPU it performs much worse when compared to

>>722940421
sphinx and the cursed mummy

>>722941340
I'm sorry that you can't read but the first video of this post has the real world performance of the PS5 measured and compared to other GPUs.

>>722928373

>>722941340
Yes, comparing GPUs to a ps5. You left that part out because of your mental illness.

>>722914195
games?

>>722923857
thanks for beta testing for PC

>>722913989 (OP)
Hopefully it releases with games this time. The problem is that they will make intergalactic their flagship title instead of stellar blade 2.

>>722931967
can your potato PC even play those games? Because you anons love larping as if you all have 5090's when all you got are pre-builds with 1060's.

>>722942894
or even worse, phat gaming laptops with 3060's. That's what is revealed on those surveys from Steam.

>>722933839
I mean, that's kind of reiterating that Anon's point: Retarded dev times ARE a reason GaaS is a thing. They think they can launch one title and then continously update it like Fartshite has been doing for a decade now. The thing is: They don't have the dev team(s) like Epig does for weekly updates and so many GaaS (*fart*) titles have launched and queefed that it's a dice roll if you even get past TWO MONTHS with players.

Like Marvel Rivals is slowly bleeding players and it's about to hit one year. It's not a sure gamble and with the bloating dev costs of single-player (and multiplayer) GaaS isn't the panache they think it is.

>>722931540
What the fuck does any of this have to do with suffering you stinky ass virgin retard? Nothing makes either scenario better or worse. Who cares what console comes out when get a job and get all of them or suck dick for money like I do.

>>722942894
People don't realize gaming consoles are better than computers for gaming unless you use a computer for work too. I have a MacBook and a Switch 1/2 and Phone and I don't need anything else. I have a ton of old consoles too but that's not modern stuff.

>>722943310
>the system that has less games, plays games worse, and costs monthly to play online is better than the system with all the games, good performance and fidelity, mods, and free online
hahaha
thanks for beta testing bro

>>722942894
My 1060 is more than likely able to run Yotei. But I'm not buying a game that capitulated to CHUDs crying about their Trumpler Youth being got by a fellow Nazi for all of a week. Sorry (not sorry), but not my fucking problem to test it.

I will say BF6's beta ran on it.

>>722939375
I suppose making more money than the rothschilds mean you're a failure now...

>>722939670
Hah!

>>722940571
A job's a job, breh.

>>722940925
V really needs to add some kind of identification system...

>>722942561
I may be a racist, but i won't lie, you're tempting me hard right now, breh, real hard..

>>722913989 (OP)
what will PS6 be equivalent to a PC?
like a 5800x3d and like a 5060ti?

>>722943201
Wat

>>722919626
>PISSIX
Oh no, a new meme has developed.
Snoyxisters, our response?

>>722928115
Nintendo make games. Sony doesn't. Xbox does too but their games suck.

I hate that the PlayStation and Xbox just became COD and Fifa machines.

>>722944436
ACK MY GASH IS BLEEDING AGAIN

>>722944335
Same as PS5, current gen non xt 70 tier GPU and and last gen ryzen 7, I guess with the addition of GRE to gpus they may go for that I guess.

So 8 core zen 5 and 70 tier UDNA gpu.

>>722914157
I'm legitimately not sure there's even been a gen after the PS3 and 360, more like they just made a few extra models of those with a bit more RAM or whatever to buy when your old ones broke.

>>722913989 (OP)
7 year console cycle is too short nowadays, should be 8 year console cycle nowadays.

This isn't the 90s or 2000s anymore.

>>722914195
Multiplats which contrary to /v/ actually are video games

>>722944850
consoles are getting outdated faster than ever anon. a PS5 can barely compete with a PC from the same year it came out

>>722944760
impossible it would cost shit ton

>>722943310
>Switch 2
>Mac
Wtf do you even play, wahoo slop and the sims?

>>722913989 (OP)
I haven't even bought a ps5. It's too expensive.

>>722944720
They were always going to become that, their goal was to get normalfags into gaming and kill real video games to do that. To them, gaming needed to be Hollywood, every game needed to be AAA, indies and AA don't apply to them. Everything they did was to damage the game industry in America and Japan, nothing more. Glad 10th generation will be their last generation, a long time coming.

>>722945000
>the thing that they did with the ps5 is impossible

>>722944936
so, if all it has is multiplats why don't you just get a PC? you'll get better performance, better deals, free online, etc

>>722945159
>Glad 10th generation will be their last generation, a long time coming.
Do people really think that consoles are gonna die and everyone will move to pc?

>>722945180
I don't have a PS5, I exclusively play on PC, just saying it does have games and some people prefer just getting a console and forgetting about it.

>>722945263
No, consoles will become Nintendo, PC will become Steam. People just want PlayStation and Xbox gone, they're cancer, literal cancer.

>>722944961
Uh huh, sure.

I'm sure everyone in 2020 had a $1000+ PC

>>722945343
>Bingtendo
Nice try but they're cancer as well

>>722945343
Nintendo is shit too.

>>722945343
>all of the normalfags will get a switch to play cod and gta and fifa instead of a console
fucking retarded. you have to be a delusional fanboy to believe this.

>>722945343
Until Snoy and EA start putting all their sports titles on PC there will always be Xbox/PS

>>722913989 (OP)
>Launching the PS6 when the PS5 still has nogames (but had four price hikes anyways)

>>722945343
Nintendo is just the kids version of the latter, how you claim Snoy and Xbox are cancer but somehow defend Nintendo which is the exact same shit it's insane

>>722945343
>Nintendo
>overpriced
>proprietary everything
>no sales
>constant re-releases of the same games
>paid online
>DLC and "expansion" passes up the ass
>no games
I don't know it sounds like the same cancer to me

>>722913989 (OP)
>Only a few more years until the next-gen starts.
Still waiting for the current gen to start.

>>722915751
>There is absolutely nothing that demarcates a "ninth gen game"
>This gen didn't happen
Switch
Switch 2
Steam Deck and those other handheld PCs

>>722945965
>All of this shit when Sony rereleases the same two games every year

>>722913989 (OP)
Looking forward to Demon's Souls Remake Remastered.

>>722946079
So does Nintendo, we're already on the like 8th BotW and whatever other Wii games that decide to AI upscale. The point is Nintendo is just as cancer.

>>722945406
>>722945440
Looks like the pajeets have entered

>>722945476
I never said this, normalfags will fuck off from gaming and it goes back to being niche again and never grow beyond that again.

>>722945584
No one is paying $800+ for a PlayStation or $1000+ for an Xbox, get fucked, your era is over.

>>722945719
Nintendo makes video games, not movies, if Sony and Microsoft can't even try to understand video games, then they have no reason to be in the business. If I were developing games, I would purposely skip the PlayStation and Xbox making all my games PC and Switch exclusives while coming up with bullshit reasons not to put my games on their trash consoles.

>>722945965
>overpriced
10th gen should be fun

>>722946437
>Nintendo makes video games
They don't make good video games though, they make 20 fps open world garbage and shit that has the budget of a phone game and looks even worse

>>722945283
what is it with snoys trying to pass as PC players lately?

>>722945404
you didn't need a $1000 PC to get better performance than a PS5

>>722913989 (OP)
When I think about it, what did the PS5 bring out that made the PS5 a must own console? With the PS1 you had games like FF7. Xbox 360 you had Halo. PS3 you had Killlzone and Resistance. PS4 you had Bloodborne. Like what was the PS5's killer app? FF16? lol

>>722946651
The Gpu equivalent of the PS5 in 2020 was selling for $600.

>>722946545
unfortunately to you they're fun games

>>722946779
Did you miss last year's GOTY Astro Bot?

>>722946876
and the PS5 was going by $800 in a scalper's hand since sony couldn't help their jewish hands from using fomo and artificial scarcity to drain a few extra bucks from retards

>>722946931
>Astro Bot?
Literally who bought that game. No one was paying $450 for a PS5 for Astroshit. And I say this as a PS5 owner.

>>722946563
yeah I guess I just have this GPU for no reason, why the fuck would anyone LARP as a PC "gamer"?

>>722946931
>GOTY
I don't care about journalist awards

>>722946876
no it's not. the ps5 is five fucking years old any low end gpu is better

>>722947171
during kung flu/covid boom you couldn't buy either a gpu or a ps5 so he isn't technically wrong

>>722946545
They do, they're fun, something PlayStation and Xbox games aren't

>>722946882
>>722947289
fun is subjective, I don't find PS or Nintendo games fun

>>722928115
>They aren't even fucking DOING anything how the fuck are Microsoft and Sony assfucking themselves this hard with zero competition?!?
Nintendo is making games for their video game console like they've always done for the past 50 years. Sogay and Microcock spent the last 15 trying to buy as many games as they can for their proprietary, lower-specced PCs, which has gotten so out of control that they're now unable to adapt or recover from the unforeseen market shifts and severe change in customer expectations and spending habits that have occurred since 2020.

>>722947034
If we are counting that then remember because of Covid and Bitcoin Gpu's were being sold with ridiculous mark ups.

>>722947171
Go watch some youtube videos and inform yourself. Plenty of people have made builds throughout the years to match a PS5 and they always went over $800 and that was by using used parts. If they went for new parts only + taxes + shipping then you needed over $1,000 to match a PS5. Even right now you still can't match a PS5 with less than $800. PC is expensive and has only gotten way worse.

>>722914603
I thought the non-shadowed part was the shirt... breh...

>>722946181
We’re on the second, retard

>>722947361
Fun is actually doing something, PS games are movies which is why they're not fun, Xbox games suck ass.

>>722914157
I have a PS5, and LITERALLY the only game I have for it that I couldn’t have played on something else is the Demon’s Souls remaster. I’ll never buy a console again. Never.

>>722947727
the ps5 uses a 6700. that was a mid tier gpu that is five years old at this point. you do not need a $600 gpu to match that, you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about

>>722947776
>wii u
>switch
>switch 2
>botw dlc switch
>botw dlc switch 2

>>722947903
The worst part about this is that DeS demake is inferior to emulating the PS3 version since they fuck up the visuals of the game

>>722914157
that's why i just use pc and pirate all the games. literally no reason to buy consoles.

>>722947998
what? the game launched both on the switch and wii-u at the same time (1 release) and got an enhanced version got the switch 2 (2 releases)

>>722947903
I think I've bought about 10 games in total for the PS5. That's over 4 years. I had like 50 games for the PS2.

>>722947836
Nintendo games are so piss easy you might as well be playing a movie, even a 40 IQ person with narcolepsy and missing all his limbs would be able to beat DK Bonanza

>>722947836
>you can't have fun watching a movie
This is why fun is subjective, but no PS games are not fun and neither are Nintendo ones since they're made for children and aren't stimulating to anyone above the age of 12 or not retarded, see: >>722948238

>>722947953
Why is reading comprehension so fucking low.

>>722945404
>>722946651

Learn to fucking read, funny thing is, the rx 6700 didn't even come out until the year after that

>>722948238
>>722948465
Which games are fun and you two better not mention Xbox shit?

>>722949418
I like CRPGs, Civ games, ARPGs in the vein of Diablo, MMOs, etc would take too long to list these games, I just play on PC and pretty much always have since the days of Half-Life and Command and Conquer. I did own an N64 and enjoyed Majoras Mask tho

>>722950084
D-DAMMIT! I can't argue with this...

Consolefags are subhuman

>>722949418
I play nothing but Bannerlord and STALKER mods

>>722950319
You won, I am defeated

>PS6 about to come out
>best PS5 game was a cross-gen game also on PS4

>>722950319
Apex based

>>722913989 (OP)
Why would I get a ps6 if I already have a PC?

>>722950430
>>722950565
I lied
I play Doom and Company of Heroes 1 mods as well.

>>722914157
Ratchet and Clank had s solid release. People ignore the series but it's an actual game game and it's always fun

>>722920971
Ratchet and Clank and it was more fun than most games this gen

>>722950808
>Modern babyshit R&C
>Desexualized Rivet by Sam Maggs
>Also on PC
Maybe Snoy and NuSuckerPunch never touch Sly Cooper ever again.

>>722944016

Yeah, ask Microsoft and Xbox.

>>722950772
Doesn't matter, you're still based and you still beat me.

>>722939375
>Sell less than Piss4
>Snoy counts PS5, PS4, money they made from PC, selling gaymes on Xbox and Switch, and money made from selling off assets, shutting down studios, laying off people and using all that money and saying, "most profitable gen ever"

Playstation is DYING. The Japs never learned. They experienced it with the near death of Olympus and Nissan. STOP putting GAIJIN in charge of your businesses.

>>722951589
10th gen will be the end of both PlayStation and Xbox, I doubt either will last that long next gen, PlayStation will last longer than Xbox but they're both dropping hardware completely sometime that gen and just going full third party.

>>722926457
The PS5's software attach rate is in the gutter and it doesn't matter.

>>722951760
Sony might last the next teo Gens since retards are retards.
But Xbox is dead (thank Christ)

How is the launch year lineup going to be after most soney devs wasted development time and resources on canceled and failled gaas slop this past generation

>>722926457
The Playstation 5's software attach rate is in the gutter and it doesn't matter.

Is PS5 even maxed out yet. Any snoys care to speak up?
Last time I checked almost every game was cross gen.

>>722951760
>PlayStation will last longer than Xbox

I agree, but beware, Sony has a tendency to collapse quickly. Remember when the PS2 was dominating everything and then the gen after PS3 nearly killed all of Sony? Remember when Intel was the unstoppable giant and then all out of the blue they get a US govt bailout? Its possible that Playstaion will collapse first. They have too many studios overpaying too many gaijin to make slop that sells like shit. They might break down first.

>>722952048
>Maxed out
Fuck does that even mean? Modern visuals are trash, run like trash and only run with resolution scaling and fucking AI framegeneration.

>>722928854
Best guess I've heard is they're trying to create a bridge for their fans to migrate to a future Xbox/MS PC ecosystem.

>>722952104
>They might break down first
Not going to happen, Playstation still makes money unlike Xbox, which used to be a small bleep in Microsoft which only lost a bit of money (ouside the 360 years) until the Activision buyout.

Now they're bleeding a shitton of money and Microsoft is directly managing it and cutting it down.

>>722928726

That chip might be a cloud server chip. Dont forget that EVERYTHING is an Xbox. Microsoft warned you.

>>722951914
They're going to price their retards out while others will just stay on the PS4/PS5 and not bother leaving them.
>But Xbox is dead (thank Christ)
Agreed

>>722952104
True, next generation is going to be interesting, we're getting PS3 era Sony alongside Xbone era Microsoft.

>>722952418
Yup, Microsoft considers APUs they worked on with AMD, third party hardware with their designs and APU their Xbox hardware, same goes for cloud. They're having others make this stuff and when they flop, everything Xbox will move to cloud until that tanks too, then they're going full third party no survivors.

>>722952327
>Playstation still makes money unlike Xbox

Careful. Xbox CLAIMS they make money too. IMO, both Xbox and Playstation are fucking LYING. They both are NOT acting like healthy companies. Dont forget, both killed studios, thousands of jobs and both went multiplatform.

>>722952671
Yup, you're not doing well if you divested in gaming hardware.

>>722921681
>n=1

>>722952671
https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/er/pdf/24q4_sonypre.pdf

>>722952048
In terms of first party like God of War and shit like the Last of Us Part 1, probably yes.

>>722952671
>They both say they're profitable
Yeah, just like Activision, Bethesda, Ubisoft and EA while, who then proceeded to sell themselves.
So, you might be right, especially with their AAA slop flopping like TLoU2 and Concord.
So I guess, Xbox is losing more money than Sony.

Regardless, all I'm saying is that Snoy isn't leaving the industry before Xbawks does anon. They are bleeding hard and Microsoft is cutting them down.

>>722953247
This, Xbox is so dead, Microsoft is going the Windows route with it.

>>722953106

Who gives a shit what that says? Look at their BEHAVIOR. Miss Sarah Bond made the statement, "Gamepass is profitable" and then the next day raised Gamepass prices by 50%.

Playstation said, "We are profitable" Yet they shut down Playstation GEAR, sold EVO and cancelled concerts. To this day they haven't said what Yotei sold.

Both of these divisions are using creative accounting. Both of them are in trouble.

>>722953563
MS doesn't tel you how profitable Game Pass is. Doesn't give you a financial report on Game Pass or even Xbox specifically. MS doesn't give out any details or numbers.

Sony tells you Playstation made $2 billion in profit last year and where all that profit came from. Sony says PS5 has made $13 billion in profit over its generation. Sony gives specific details about how its video game division is doing with the numbers to back it up. That's not what Xbox is doing.

https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/business_segment_meeting/pdf/2025/GNS_E.pdf

>>722915171
>The issue is that games now take anywhere from 5 to 10 years to develop
The issue is that for the first three years of its lifespan normal, average people literally could not buy the system. Sony is beyond stupid to pretend like Covid was normal at all and that the system was just readily available. They themselves had to have a queue system on their own Direct site because of how impossible it was to buy one of the things.

>>722953106
>higher operating income
>less sales
It's over

>>722954024
It’s generation being ps5 sales, portal sales(counted as PS5 sales), ps4 sales(a different generation entirely), micro transactions(not related at all to PS), and refurbished console sales

>>722954226
That means profit margins are growing. That's a good thing.

>>722954275
All contributing to $13 billion, with at least two years left to go, going straight into Sony's bank account. Do you think Sony cares how their video game business makes money?

>>722954448
>More expensive for the company to operate
>Less sales
>This equals higher profit margins
You're retarded, take an economy class

When's the new Xbox's planned release?

>>722954548
Hopefuly never

>>722954448
>attachment rate for games is abysmal
>concord failure
>imminent marathon failure
>fairgame$ probably a failure they won’t admit to
>portal and pro hardly sell at all
But hey, they raised the price of the ps5 and online like 5 times, look at all this profit!

>>722954537
>higher operating income
and
>More expensive for the company to operate
Are two different things.

>>722913989 (OP)

There´s been no significant leap in technology or graphics though. Nvidia 4000 and 5000 series are pretty much unneeded scams right now. I mean, fake frames, up-scaling, it´s all shit to cover up for unoptimized games these days.

Consoles are not really pushing any envelopes either... Everything can be done to run on 8GB cards these days and most console games are also on PC too. I fail to see what´s the point of buying a new console when you can do just fine with a 4 or 5 year old card that´s all.

>>722954843
Yea. Despite all those failures, the PS5 is still the most profitable Playstation generation ever.

>>722954843
>imminent marathon failure
I actually believe this is going to underperform over a several year period leading to it shuttering rather than fail like Concord. Apparently the Destiny/Bungie fanbase is actually excited for it and the more recent test runs have been far more receptive. Bungie also reneged on things like proximity chat not existing and their stamina system.

Fairgame$ is absolutely bombing though, anyone can see that coming.

>>722955026
Do you own any consoles?

>>722954846
Fuck you're right, my bad
I'm still going to move goalposts and say it's all bullshit or taking into account the several mobile gayme properties Sony owns.
All these AAA companies were doing very well and yet they sold themselves out.
After all the money the Playstation division sunk into Concord and Marathon, I doubt they're doing fine.
They didn'r kick out Jim Ryan over nothing.

>>722953563
Something doesn't add up about the next gen Xbox. I feel like going by the rumors, there are confusions. The Magnus APU was originally a traditional console APU but now it's been changed to resemble a desktop PC and not a console. Sarah also showed Xbox Play Anywhere and Xbox Cloud Gaming when she talked about backwards compatibility. This sounds like Xbox next gen is OEMs and Microsoft isn't making the console, like at all.

>>722955047
Nope, PS2 and PS4 still rape it.

>>722955294
Just think about it this way. Fortnite has made over $26 billion. A lot of that on Playstation 4/5. Sony gets 30% whatever goes through PSN.

>>722913989 (OP)
>>722914157
Even if the Playstation 6 comes out what the hell is there to expect? Sony has been making boring ass movie games for two gens now and PS5 had no games.

Unironically worst console gen ever. Series S ruined Multiplats too.

>>722955376
Not in terms of profit or revenue. Did the PS2 sell more hardware? Sure. Did the PS4 have more games? Sure. But the PS5 beat them both at profit and revenue.

>>722913989 (OP)
but..why? they barely did anything with PS5

>>722955476
The first Negative Game

>>722955476
Do you want Sony to come out with good games that forces you to buy their hardware?

>>722955579
That includes third parties
PC sales are part of that PS5 share, lmao.

>>722913989 (OP)
Who cares, I'm having fun with my Switch2

>>722955701
No, I want them to die
Fuck paid online
Fuck DLC
Fuck modern soulless UIs
Fuck moviegames filled with Marxist bullshit
I haven't bought a Sony console since the PS2 and that isn't going to change.
PC+PS2 were top tier and the most fun I ever had with gayman, now only PC gives me any enjoyment, my friends don't even have fun anymore, they're just addicted to their skinnerbox shitty games on their console.

>>722955128

Last i owned was a PS3. I gave up on SONY after that and i was kind of right. Most of the PS4 and PS5 games i cared to play made it to PC.

The only games i can think i´m missing are the Vanillaware games and i´m pretty sure those wouldn´t need the last hardware to run. Could probably run on an old GTX 1060.

>>722954024

Dont forget shutting studios, and laying off people, and selling assets and raising prices also adds to those profits. Its just like the PS3 days they were selling buildings to stay afloat. It amazes me people dont see that. Oh well, when Playstation does more layoffs and weird shit dont act surprised.

>>722955836
>Shitch Poo
>Pokemon
Get Switch and CFW it or get the fuck out with that shit.

>>722955996
You can emulate them anon

>>722913989 (OP)
I care, I am saving the fun by playing with my Switch2

>>722955720
Are you new to Playstation? Third-parties have always been their bread and butter.

>>722913989 (OP)
>APU is going to be 5 times as fast as the 7090

>>722955985
>PCfag
You're not better because of it.

>>722956067
cope snoy

>>722956093
Not on PC outside the PS1 days

>>722956047
Yea, the PS3 days were bad. Could've sunk the company.

>>722956093
I think he is just confused by games not having Mario in the title.

There'll be 2 consoles.
A cheaper and less powerful one for $500-600, and the actual ps6 for $800+
There's no way to sell a console with the hardware the console will have for the usual price, the ps5 rose in price and sits at $500 right now for the digital version, and the ps5 pro $750.
The xbox series x $600, the series s $450, the switch 2 $450...
I don't really understand people who think the ps6 will come out for $500 or something like that because "they have to sell consoles", like how out of touch with reality are you, prices are only going to keep going up and there 0 chance too of Sony putting in stores a new and more powerful console for a lower price than the older and worse console.

>>722956287
I don't know what that means. Did you look at the chart? It shows how third-party sales dominant Playstation platforms.

>>722956160
Most consolesfags are Sports and COD shitskins.
What's your point faggot?
Most of the stuff I play are not on console and never will be.

>>722954448
>Do you think Sony cares how their video game business makes money?

Ever heard of "Neutron Jack?" Totoki is the "Neutron Jack" of Sony. Now look at GE, they are a shell of their former self. You cant CUT your way to success.

>>722956454
My point is PC is just as bad as consoles. Be an individual, not an platform.

>>722956531
Here:

https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/business_segment_meeting/pdf/2025/GNS_E.pdf
https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/er/pdf/24q4_sonypre.pdf

Show me how Sony is "cutting" their way to success like GE.

>>722956524
You got me. Now you can leave the thread.

>>722956654

LAYOFFS.

>>722955352

Xbox is pure confusion right now. I dont think even high level executives at Xbox know what the fuck is going on.

>>722956563
>PC is just as bad as consoles
If you're an AAA slop eating retard maybe.
>Exclusives
>Old games
>Emulation
>Mods
>Piracy
I'm playing a Fallout 2 mod released 2 years ago right fucking now.
What's the consolefag alternative to AAAslop?
Indieshit financially supported and marketed by these same AAA companies?

>>722913989 (OP)
but sony the ps5 still doesn't have any games

>>722956769
You think Sony should not have laid off 900 of its employees in Playstation from studios like Naughty Dog and Bungie, along with studio closures like Playstation London and Firewalk?

And you additionally believe that those 900 layoffs will significantly impact Sony's overall workforce of over 110,000 employees negatively?

Are you one of those people who watches youtuber for opinions but never bother to check if those opinions you got were ever close to being correct?

>>722956942
Are you just going to ignore that PC is probably half chink and half of the time people spend on Steam is F2P slop?

>>722913989 (OP)
Guys take the switch pill

Cheaper hardware, more games than you could imagine, actual exclusives, no humiliation rituals where you check your white privilege and take estrogen while bouncing on a black dildo screaming "black lives matter!", games with actual gameplay by people who actually care, I could go on.

>>722957320
/v/ doesn't care about Nintendo anymore. Come back when its games can be emulated.

>>722957410
/v/ is smart enough to not get viruses trying to play that Glitchy mess.

>>722957147

IDIOT, layoffs is a sign that a business is NOT doing well (except if its a merger). When a company starts laying off people, watch out.

>>722958449
I assume you can't read and don't know how to open an image on 4chan. If you did, you would have noticed Sony cut its workforce for almost 14 years straight from a peak of 180,000 employees in 2008 and that the people Sony fired recently were from studios that sucked.

>>722956942
But indies also come out on consoles?

We're still getting PS4 and Xbone releases. What's gonna happen with the PS6, are we going to have PS4/PS5/PS6 cross-gen releases?

>>722958714

And now is weaker than they have ever been. They are still selling off and spinning off divisions and plowing that money into Playstation to prop it up. What a fucking joke.

>>722960209
Are you the layoff person or someone else? Or are you just dropping the layoff argument and moving to a new one?

Is the PSP2 still real?

>>722960382
That was the Vita. The rumor is about a handheld PS6 that's supposed to be weaker and cheaper than the PS6 home console. So, think of the PS Portal except a full handheld.

>>722960558
If this thing is real then the PS6 is irrelevant; it can be as strong as the best current PC and devs will still be forced to aim for parity. It will be the new Series S.

>>722914157
Nothing.

>>722960679
It's called minimum spec. Actually, that may be the Switch 2.

>>722917058
what could they even launch with to make people excited when nearly their entire catalog is 4 games
>God of War Walk More
>The Last Of Us Part 1&2 more Cut Content Edition
>Astro Bot we’re advertising PS6 this time
>υoY ʞɔυᆿ ʇO ɈƨoHӘ

>>722960679
I take back what I said about the Switch 2. It isn't the lowest spec. The Switch 2 at least has a UFS instead of an HDD. Low spec PCs are what will hold devs back.

>>722952418
if it is a "server" chip, what's in the box will just have a couple less CUs, still comfortably ahead of the ps6.

>>722960382
Rumor is less powerful than ps5 but can run most ps5 games without patch. Which sounds made up

>>722952418
Kepler said it is a console. And so did mlid, if that is worth anything

>>722961330
Meh, sounds kinda like steam deck, especially after seeing silent hill f basically run better on steam deck than ps5 pro

>>722961330
I think you would need some sort of patch, but would it be a problem if it's less powerful than the PS5? Call of Duty 2027 is going to launch on Xbox Series S and maybe even PS4/X1 still. Most other games will also continue to support Xbox Series S/X for years.

>>722961431
I think Kepler said its more powerful than the Xbox rog ally x. Which makes sense since it's using a newer chip. Expect 30-40 fps with higher from ai fuckery.

>>722961530
Will people complain that Sony is holding back gaming or claim they're helping optimization for the deck 2?

>>722961693
It's okay when Sony does it.

>>722961693
Oh, that'd be interesting. It would bring the "holding back gaming" and "optimize your games better" people into the same threads.

>>722913989 (OP)
Just in time for GTA 6 to double dip with an updated version. The PS5 version will just be a beta test.

>>722956909
Yeah, plus, it makes no sense to make another traditional Xbox home console, canceling it won't cause Microsoft to pay AMD in billions because those chips will just be repurposed into Xbox OEMs and Xbox Cloud. There's literally no longer a need for a home console from Microsoft when they can have others make it. Of course, this means backwards compatibility would get axed and done through Xbox Play Anywhere and Xbox Cloud Gaming though.

>>722961997
Finally you can play gta6 at 60 fps (with framegen) at 4k (upscaled from 540p)

>>722946931
>game that’s a giant advertisement for the console it’s on
>all it does is remind you how many games Sony used to make and support
All it did was make the Concord blowout funnier

>>722962156
Did you really like all those games Sony used to support?

>>722962217
Yeah I liked Ape Escape

>>722962080
Because you make more money on indicidual sales your own console than putting games on third parties. You make money off third party games as well. Even if you sell 30 million again, you can make money doing it. Abandoning consoles makes no sense if you can profit from it.

>>722913989 (OP)
oh sweet a new console that will play at the exact same frame rate and resolution as the last 2 generations with zero new games and maybe some de makes. can't wait to spend almost a grand on it

>>722962272
Am I getting this right? The last mainline Ape Escape was 20 years ago? Your Sony died before the PS3 released.

>>722962274
You're looking at it wrong. Microsoft isn't a console company like Nintendo. It's not even like Sony, who's biggest business is video games, but not all of it. Microsoft's Xbox business is one of its smallest and the AI gold rush is going full steam ahead. The money Xbox could make for MS is tiny compared to the potential fortunes Artificial Intelligence could make for MS.

>>722962274
Microsoft hasn't made shit on Xbox hardware, they make all their dough through software and subscription services. They literally do not need the box anymore. Their games are also doing better on other platforms. Microsoft's ex-Xbox developers even admitted that Microsoft never figured out how Nintendo and Sony were able to sell their consoles at a profit. Xbox has always sold at a loss.

>>722962959
>Microsoft's ex-Xbox developers even admitted that Microsoft never figured out how Nintendo and Sony were able to sell their consoles at a profit.
What I've heard is MS never got good at making hardware, whether it was the Xbox or anything else, while Nintendo/Sony have been in the business of console manufacturing for decades. Designing, contracting, managing supply chains, etc. Nintendo and Sony became really good at that. Sony, in particular, has tons of experiences with all sorts of other consumer electronics. MS just couldn't compete in that arena.

>>722963175
Even Valve figured this shit out by just selling it on their online store and using their store to subsidize it. Hell, Valve just like using APUs that were either dumped or make an usual APU that's cheap work for their gaming hardware. Microsoft really has no excuse. What hurts even worse, is that before the original Xbox released, Microsoft was actually going to put their software knowledge into the console by making it a console/Windows PC hybrid but for some reason, just went with copying Sony and that only got them as far as 7th gen before the whole building collapsed.

>>722913989 (OP)
With even fewer games

>>722963906
I dunno. The Steam Deck has sold like 4M units. I don't think that's the same as selling upwards of 100M units of something. Are they even in the same league? It's not like Xboxs (RROD excepted ) were poorly made. MS just couldn't make them efficiently enough to not run constant deficits.

>>722947903
most of the games i bought were glorified early access that came to pc eventually. astro bot and desr are the only actual exclusives i own.