Thread 722920387

What would Tolkien think about Hyrule and The Legend of Zelda series?

A loathsome offensive hodge-podge of disconnected and incoherent nonsense

some boomer nonsense, I'm sure

Tolkien basically hated everything I think and he wasn't wrong to
Actually I think he was relatively favorable towards Robert E Howard's Conan stories

>>722920539
This
Who cares what some cranky old fart has to say? I see enough of their whining on here already

>>722920628
>Tolkien basically hated everything
Not really, rather a lot of publicity is given to his dislikes and no one really talks about the stuff he did like. E.g. nobody can shut up about how he didn't like Dune, but he did like Asimov

>>722920387 (OP)
If Tolkien was a teenager he would have unironically been a Zelda loretuber.

>>722920802
the world is a better story then the plots

I think the more important question is what would he think of corpos like Palantir referencing his work

>>722920387 (OP)
He didn't even like TV so I doubt he'd care at all about vidya.

>>722920996
if he lived today? probably fine as long as he got paid

>Hmm..
>A kingdom of elflike folk, ruled from a high castle..
>Ah!
>Old man's still got it after all..

Has anyone ever refuted this?

>>722921119
youre being anti-semantic

>>722921227
i've never seen that mf with a positive K/D ratio so fuck his opinion.

>>722920387 (OP)
He would loathe nu-Zelda since it’s all Japshit.

>>722921350
He fought in the Somme so he probably did have a positive K/D irl.

>>722920387 (OP)
I know a legitimate PHD holder who is a university professor that studies tolkien...Ill try to ask him next time I see him.
As for my assumption, he would hate the medium, I think he'd give it some points for the ludo, but would probably say its outweighed by its overwhelmingly frequent use as brainless timewasting. If you were to hand him the historia books or something and mention nothing of the games (or have him separate the two) he would most likely think botw/totk were better than the rest of the series because they are poetic tales (a favourite of tolkien's) versus the more straightforward stories of ocarina or twilight princess. As >>722920950 implied, people like the "story" because of the world building, which isnt even very strong from any single entry, relying instead on accumulated lore.

I would also say that totk's theme of "you cant do this alone" would be more appealing to him than the typical "you are the only one who can do anything" fantasy.

>>722920996
>>722921054
He would despise it, Tolkien is not the perpetual hater retards >>722920628 claim he is for clicks on youtube, but was very critical about corporations, and since palatir are egregious violators of Catholic morality, he would have obviously found them repulsive on every moral and ethical front.

>>722920387 (OP)
He said, and I quote "Why the fuck did they stop using the ocarina of time and majora's mask aesthetic."

What would Tolkien think of being portrayed as a turtle?

>>722920628
He read 1 (one) Conan short story that he was given alongside a host of other fantasy short stories and listed it as one of the ones that at least weren't complete dogshit, that's all

Why is every piece of BotW concept art 10x more colorful than the actual game.

>>722925743
Its literally the same palette, anon, the game just has aggressive rayleigh scattering because its on a switch.

>>722920387 (OP)
its fucking shite

>>722920387 (OP)
He would hate it, Zelda is all about industrializing the world, not preserving it.

>>722926447
>Zelda is all about industrializing the world, not preserving it.
This is the single most retarded bait I have ever witnessed, yet I must bite.
How.

How the fuck, tell us.

>>722920387 (OP)
Zelda threw away its Christian roots since OoT rather than embracing them, he'd probably dislike this considering his faith was the biggest thing that contributed to his writing

>>722926580
In Skyward Sword, you industrialize the land of Hyrule by restoring old technology and reestablishing temples throughout the land. The Goddess statue even crash lands right on top of Demise's seal. The whole game is about terraforming Earth from Skyloft's point of view.

In Twilight Princess, you do the same. You restore Hyrule to its former glory by using magic from both Hyrule and Twili to correct the wrongs Ganon influenced.

Same thing in Breath of the Wild, where the Guardians are ancient technology used for terraforming and manipulating landmarks, resources, and cultures which are in turn, subverted by Ganon.

A lot of the games are about using industrialization for the common good, and not letting it fall into greater evil hands like Ganon's.

>>722925519
high praise from that opinionated curmudgeon

>>722920628
Tolkien still recognized good qualities even in things he disliked. For example, he appreciated E.R. Eddison's 1922 book The Worm Ouroboros for it's prose, literary merits and the way it was innovative kind of epic fantasy for it's time. He however deeply disliked the "might makes a right" morality of story's heroes and it's portrayal of war which Tolkien saw as glorifying. Eddison also appreciated Tolkien and was occasional member of Inklings with him, but also thought that Tolkien's views and outlook are "soft" because his fantasy characters are not Nietzschean supermen.

>>722924295
Because they were ugly, and you only like it because you saw it as a kid. Windwaker was better, TP was better, even BotW and how washed out it was had a unique look that was far better than "anime for embarrassed 12 year old westoids" that those 2 games used.

>>722927601
I wouldn't exactly call OoT and Mm anime

>>722927469
>it's portrayal of war
You are supposed to use "its" in this case. "It's" is just short for "it is".

>>722926883
Your argument isnt even remotely coherent, You have to be 18 to post here.

>>722928314
I am 18 and older, I got permabanned for that accusation going unnoticed before.

>>722920387 (OP)
>Goron's and Gerudo's are isolated and segregated
Would be pleased.

Tolkein created highly detailed cosmologies, histories, and languages for his setting. He would find 99.9% of modern fantasy utterly amateurish and without literary merit.

>>722920387 (OP)
Probably hate it, like most things that aren't his specific forum of hyper autism. That's just the kind of guy he was.

>>722929446
Imagine being the grandfather of literally all modern fantasyslop