Thread 722934409

Hades 2 is fun and I don't care what anybody says, but it's kind of annoying that almost every conversation is just Mel and some other god sucking each other's dicks with flattery.

I was almost one punching this guy.

Is the combat as shallow as the first game?
Have they improved the lack of interesting item/boon synergies? (how is Isaac still the only roguelite that's done this right so many years later?)

>>722935087
This dragon ain't normal etiher.

I just beat Typhon the first time I got to him. I had a really sick build and I may not be able to win next time but I'll see.

>Hades 2 is fun and I don't care what anybody says, but it's kind of annoying that almost every conversation is just Mel and some other god sucking each other's dicks with flattery.
That's basically just what xenia is though

Well the gods are helping her, just like how they helped Zag in the first game and Zag was humble to them there too.
If you want to be mistreated so much then just talk to Nem

>get Scorch
>win
Is it really that easy?

>>722935517
Is that the resurrection lunar power? I don't think I've used it more than one or two times, and not once since 1.0.

>>722939571
It's the duo boon between Apollo and Hera. The resurrection hex is pretty good too but can't compete with the +200% dmg boost from the boon.

>>722934409 (OP)
>Hades 2 is fun and I don't care what anybody says, but it's kind of annoying that almost every conversation is just Mel and some other god sucking each other's dicks with flattery.
how does it feel to be the most generic motherfucker alive?

>>722935087
I've got the credits and I still don't know what those banners do.

>>722940414
I assume they give enemies ward like they do in the city but yeah I've never seen the banners together with the adds so dunno what that is about.

>>722940238
Seems like I have to try this, I usually avoid Hera.

>>722934409 (OP)
The dialogue in this game is mind numbing, 95% of it feels like obligatory or repetitive filler. If you're going to have people talk about nothing just play the audio as I run around, atleast then I don't have to stop and wait for it to finish

>>722940347
Seethe

>>722934409 (OP)
I mean, she kind of has to. Gods are incredibly arrogant and petty, and if she wants their help, she needs to suck up.
You've seen how they are if you don't choose their Boon.

>>722940713
Chronos summons them for VoR Typhon only, he's not around to summon them for normal Typhon.

>>722934409 (OP)

I’ve been using the axe with a spin build and I can’t reliably get to hades. I got to him one time and died. Should I use a different weapon?

>>722943345
You mean Chronos? Axe should be ez mode. I don't spin a lot, using mostly the basic combo and the godly omega slam.

>>722938993
Anything works at one fucking fear.

How do I recruit the fucking dog

>>722938993
i don't really understand how scorch works. the description feels confusing.

>>722943345
Use the Charon Axe and get the Apollo boom that gives you MP back when your cast expires, you can just spam omega specials and nuke everything

>>722944145
after recruiting two other familiars (frog, cat, or bird) you should unlock an incantation that will let you befriend the dog

>>722934409 (OP)
Mel fucks her brother btw

>>722944452
Based

How do you tell the difference between Prometheus 2 ring ground punch versus 1 ring? This guy is raping me

I hate the layers of RNG and grinding for unlocking the hidden aspects
>need RNG for the resources to even spawn in a run
>need to grind fear for nightmare to max out aspects you might not even like
>need to wait for RNG to have a character show up and RNG for them to give a waking phrase instead of small talk
>repeat the RNG grind for the resources to actually unlock the thing
>finally unlock one and it feels like shit compared to what you've been using since it's only level 1

>>722944452
Proof?

>>722944452
What!
She is Scylla’s wife! She is!

Chronos keepsake can give you 1000g mogging charon's keepsake.

>>722935087
what weapon hits 8k?

>>722947853
Fully stacked Shiva.

>>722947923
what's shiva?

>>722948041
Hidden aspect of Xinth, the Black Coat.

>>722948041
shiva deez nutz

Thanks poseidon

>>722947427
Chronos's keepsake doesn't allow for rerolls.
10 rerolls > chronos's keepsake

>>722949786
Now get Hera's Olympian buff and or Poseidon's legendary and you'll win so hard it's ridiculous.

>>722949945
I got zeus, hestia and ares duo with poseidon right now. So it truly is a poseidon run.

>>722935517
the dragon is really rare in this fight isn't it? Usually i get the little orb dude but he's very strong as well

>How about two?
>Ha ha ha, YES!
I love Poseidon so much it's unreal. Greetings from Tartarus.

>>722935578
Typhon is pretty easy once you learn his moveset. He's a DPS check more than anything else

>>722950207
I think the Dragon can only spawn on VoR as well, the eggs hatch into wardens there.

>jeweled pom for 3 areas
>finish with experimental hammer
Its that fuckin easy

>>722949889
I've found i prefer not having rerolls. Makes me work with what I'm given instead of fudging numbers in my favor

>>722935578
>>722950559
Yeah a lot of typhon damage is avoidable but a lot of phases have a few segments where it's like "haha get hit loser" and you basically just have to push your dps rotation as far as it can before that segment. It's not that the moves are impossible to dodge but Mel's kit really sucks at repositioning and you might run into segments where the only safe space is the opposite corner of the room. Regardless though he's fairly easy assuming you don't lose a few defiances to prometheus or the wardens

>>722950818
>drop arachne's sash
I could never

what's your fav aspects?
for me, it's circe staff, medea stuff and charon axe

>>722940347
lol fag

>>722952190
Thanatos axe, momos staff, pan lim/oros. I can also go for all the hidden aspects except torch.

>>722952190
Artemis knives is nice because it lets you delete half a boss's health bar once every 12 seconds

>>722951571
>having defiances
Strength arcana all the way baby

>>722934409 (OP)
I started playing this a few days ago, my thoughts are that the game is fine, but the enemy variety/character in particular feels really lacking compared to Hades 1, there are even repeating enemies between the first and second and even third areas which I don't recall being a thing in the first game aside from maybe the little witch enemy that shoots purple balls, in addition to repeating it feels like alot of the enemies lack character until the third area, they are just variations of mummy

>>722944452
Sounds like she's a greek goddess

>>722952842
Surface runs have decent variety
Underworld runs are lacking in that regard

>>722950818
the jeweled pom's effect lingers, you can switch it after the first area

>>722953243
True but i like having every boon i pick up for the majority of the run have it's effect
By the time you hit the final area there's rarely enough boons for it to be worthwhile anymore

Terrible art.

>>722953323
I'm not sure you understand what he said.
You can start with jew pom and change it in area 2 and the you will still have it. Every new boon you find will still come upgraded to +4. As long as you keep fate's whim of course. In Area 4 you can have all 3 of them active still.

When can I unlock the hidden aspects? Don't tell me it's after the credits roll

>>722954229
I think as soon as you have all 3 base aspect of a given weapon type and have one of them fully upgraded. Also Torch can't be the first hidden aspect.
Also also if you really want one you should be careful with progressing story elements because they often take priority over the waking phrases. Like if you want medeas hidden aspect but you keep progressing the vow of rival for example she will most likely keep talking about that for a while.

This is one of the most obnoxious fucking things I've experienced.

>>722954490
>and have one of them fully upgraded
for each given weapon type right? guess I gotta go mining for more silver then

>>722954590
Yeah

>>722954590
It's got to be one of the alternate ones, not the Melinoe aspect, so you probably don't need that much silver

>>722954550
This shit beat my ass the first time but it's not actually that bad once you're prepared for it, each of the tentacles goes down quick so it just becomes kiting Scylla's dumb dash attack around while looking for an opportunity to kill Roxy.

>>722954808
There's like a hundred rules people make up about the hidden aspect but it's literally just unlock all 3 have any of them maxxed even melinoe.

>>722954992
Hey if I had to grind nightmares to get them then you gotta do it too

>>722952794
yeah Strength is great. I used it for every boss except rival Typhon, who filtered me hard; had to fight him with dead defiances.

>>722954904
That water canon wall near drummer is diabolical. I guess Nergal being slow as fuck did not help either because I lost all three defiance in a span of 30 seconds after taking that screenshot.

>>722934409 (OP)
Yep Melinoe is very straight laced, and they don't lean on it at all to make it interesting. She gets no narrative relating to her mentality, and Zagreus has to solve the problem her character development could have solved. I'd have even preferred to see Zagreus interact with Prometheus at this point.

Oh well.

>>722938296
Wut? Xena spends 80% of her screen time with ares calling him a bitch ass wanker and dabbing on him.

>>722955497
Zagreus would make a far better main character for this story.
You can even do it like this
>Zag finds still recovering Chronos on his own
>Chronos is powerless to truly stop him if he wants to kill him again, but he traps him in a temporal bubble that sends him to a possible future
>possible futures are different, from conflict between olympians to Typhon and other titans awakening
>each time Zag manages to escape the bubble, we get a piece of interactions between Zag and Chronos who then proceeds to turn the time back in order to save his hide

>>722955831
I still think there was potential with Melinoe from a writing, because her personality can be paralleled with Chronos.
Zagreus would call out any bullshit from the gods near instantly.

>>722955497
Find yourself a friend who will gaslight you rather than postulate that gods might just be assholes for the sake of it.

Fucking finally, now I can stop torturing myself with 32 heat runs

>>722955941
She just needs a character arc. The disappointing bit is that all the pieces are there.
>Death to Chronos! She actually goes through with dissolving time and rescuing her family, but is trapped in a timeless nightmare.
>"This isn't what I wanted. There has to be another way."
>Sends back a vision to her past self somehow telling her not to kill Chronos
>Doubt and despair, this is the low point of the character arc.
>Talks with NPCs, realizes that Gods are huge jerks who enact revenge for petty reason (Dora, Arachne, Narcissus, Heracles, Prometheus).
>Talks to Nemesis, the embodiment of (fair and just) revenge
>Realizes that she has to save Chronos, not kill him out of revenge
>Talks it out with Chronos and forgives him

>>722956832
32 underworld is very feasible. Now if they made Surface 32, now that would be fucked.

>>722956986
I would not escape it with just one death defiance needed

>>722957176
What vows did you use?

>>722934409 (OP)
>Hades 2 is fun

So the eagle's name is just eagle in greek, they should've given him a better name. I looked it up, before anyone says that the eagle used to be a boy named Aetos, if that was the case there's no way the best friend of Zeus would betray the gods.

>>722957434
Dont remember exactly but think it was:
>First rank of time
>Third rank of enhanced bosses
>First rank of ward
>Third rank of enemy hp
>Third rank of enemy amount
>First rank of damage up
>First rank of HP decrease
>Second rank of debt
>Denial
>Second rank of fangs
>Second rank of menace
>Second rank of return
Basically my strategy was to make the bosses as manageable as possible by not increasing their speed or giving them shadow-servants and just slugging through harder levels

>>722934409 (OP)
>but it's kind of annoying that almost every conversation is just Mel and some other god sucking each other's dicks with flattery.
Yeah, pretty much. I like the gameplay loop enough to forgive a lot of personally distasteful things but "there's too much dicksucking and mutual flattery" really sums up why I think the writing has suffered a downgrade in between games. In Hades 1 the threat of the Olympians losing their shit was something everyone acknowledged as a real possibility that had to be handled delicately.

In Hades 2 you just drop off a freshly redeemed Chronos at Olympus after he led a damn WAR besieging it and Zeus is just OK with it because reasons.

I just started grandpa's social link, hopefully there are some details about his actual plan, and what precisely went down in this mythology between titans and gods. But all of that should have been front and center before the credits. The first game is palace intrigue, a conspiracy to unravel, the second one's been essentially "an ancient evil awakens".
They tease Melon getting freakishly strong, stoking fear, and wielding powers of deleting conceptual beings out of existence in response to Chronos, but haven't went anywhere yet. Would be weird to go into the villain arc now that I'm developing all these relationships. They tease the complication of a world without Time, but never stumble over it in the story. Feels like more interesting drafts got sanded down somewhere along the way.

>>722944271
You stack Scorch damage onto an enemy that burns them at a set rate, 100 damage per second by default. It stacks on the enemy up to a cap of 999, so if you reached that cap and stopped hitting them they would take ~1000 damage over the next 10 seconds.
Different boons interact with this, doing things like increasing the rate damage is applied (eg. if you get +150% to the rate it will apply 250 damage/second, which makes it way more effective if you have a fast weapon that can stack Scorch faster than it burns off at the default rate) or a condition for triggering the stored damage all at once (Demeter and Hestia's duo boon).

>>722958708
I am very sorry. Grandpa is much more concerned about his new job and mending bridges than whatever his plan was. Hell he doesn't even seem to be commanding the satyrs anymore since Melinoe BTFOing everyone on the way to fighting his vestiges/Typhon's vestiges is part of the canon event they need to maintain

The main hint is that apparently the idea of mortals being free of divine interference, the ending of the game, is at least somewhat similar to what he was going to bring about by his own admission. So yeah, it turns out that grandpa actually had a point all along despite acting like the biggest moustache-twiddling villain ever, and Meli and the Olympians were in fact wrong to question if the Golden Age was merely propagandised to look better than it was, kek.

This game really does suffer from being played from the viewpoint of a zealot child soldier with an active aversion to questioning authority.

>>722938993
>Get Blitz
>Get another way to constantly spam ping damage (like say, Scorch)
>win
It's even easier.

>>722938993
You can win with anything if you're not retarded, retard. For fuck's sake, I've been doing pure cast builds and winning

i hate prometheus and i hate typhon, gay ass mmo dodge the floor lights bs

>>722934409 (OP)
Is there any secret aspect worth getting outside of sickle and dagger?

I swear all the other weapons either do half the dps or get you killed with their terrible movesets.

>>722963468
Yeah, almost all of them feel weirdly overtuned and gimped compared to the secret aspects in 1. There is one exception: Supay, for the flames. Get it. Spin2win. Solves all your problems forever if you put Blitz on attack and your DoT Boon of choice on special.

>>722963468
Staff is really good, but all the staffs are good. Axe needs you to max it to be good but is good, Skull is fun and probably second best after suicide bomber aspect, Flames is interesting in how it changes the moveset but kinda lame gameplay wise, and I hate every aspect of the Coat and that doesn't change with the hidden

>>722958734
Cheers m8

Maybe this is just a me thing but anyone else feels like the characters run out of things to say faster than Hades 1?

>>722964495
More actors means less money and the dialogue has to be spread evenly between all major and minor characters.

>>722944690
you wing it with op boons so you don't have to deal with mechanics

>>722944690
I think the actual animation is identical but he won't run very far before doing the big rings while he'll chase you the full room length for the small punch so you just guess based on how much he moved before he starts the windup. Same for the uppercut versus the fire pillar and the regular kick versus the wave kick, running far away from him seems to keep him doing easier moves.

>>722949786
how did you do that

>>722964495
it makes the game better for me because i wasted 20 fucking hours waiting for the achilles and his fag lover lines to pop

>>722966547
There's a keepsake that automatically gives +4 on all boons you get. Then 3 normal poms and a double pom from the infernal contract or whatever it is called. And finally echo has an option that doubles all pom upgrades for your highest upgraded boon.

I really hate the starting staff. The skulls are kind of...eh as well.

>>722966547
did you do that...did you do that...do that

>>722934409 (OP)
Disgusting faggot game. Makes me nauseous just looking at the character art.

It feels like a fucking grind. Do I get ashes first or the purple thing? I don't remember the first games progression being this much of a slog.

Speaking of which holy fuck why are there so many currencies? Is this a fucking gacha game?

Also is there a good melee build? I always just use the special on the wand/blades otherwise I get fucking killed by enemies that spit out a stream of projectiles.

>>722967010
I really find Hestia ugly and annoying to look at. And a few others.

>>722966880
I didn't care for most of the weapons except the axe and the dagger. The black coat is kinda cool but the moveset is so limited, doesn't feel like you can do combos like you could in hades 1 because instead of uppercut or similar move you get some lame missiles

>>722967057
Those are both fun. Hate the dagger special unless I get something that makes it bounce or do better damage though. I haven't touched the other aspects for it tho.

I like it but one thing that I can say is that weapons feel less fun here.
Uppercutting faggots in hades 1 with the fists was quite cool especially if you had insane damage boons or criticals. Nothing comes close here.

Why did they make getting nectar so fucking grindy? In general the design makes you go through encounters to pass time but i'm in the post game and I'm having to go all the way to the late game areas to advance a questline and I still have at most 3 nectars so between nights I have to remember to buy the 1 nectar in the store and do at most 2 or 3 offerings.

I thought that when you get the nectar recipe from Aphrodite it would be the game finally letting me stockpile it but it requires stardust for some fucking reason

>>722967263
probably because getting nectar in the first game was too easy via fishing and they over-corrected it here.
Just hope they fix it because the grind will determine if I'll cheevo hunt or not

>>722967024
you don't have to grind at all though. Just do your runs, collect any resources you find, and after the run you upgrade whatever is available. The game's base difficulty is really not hard; you don't need to rush weapon or arcana upgrades

>>722934409 (OP)
I just think the theremin ruins the soundtrack.

>>722967517
I like it. Gives it that witchy feeling.

>>722967517
I wanted more of it. I love the spooky instrument.

This franchise could've been so much better, stoic masculine gods and hyper feminine goddesses with Mediterranean instruments accompanying distorted guitars that rely on the Phrygian mode to make what we love in Hades music: Greek folk metal. But that faggot Darren Knob decided to shove the "wee woo" spooky instrument in there that you use for alien invasions or scooby doo episodes, ruining the entire thing. Then they make bara greek gods rather than imposing dominant rulers of their own elements. Even Hades himself showed up unprompted on rule34 sucking a cock, it's a homo ass game made by commie faggots played by even bigger fruits for putting up with it and licking up their plate full of shit clean.
Here's your hades music:
https://vocaroo.com/1eW51djZPUxA

>>722967462
The problem is I'm not having fun doing the runs, I just do the same thing: cast, run around doing ranged attacks, do the omega attacks if the boons need it. I don't know if it was just the novelty but it felt a lot better in Hades 1.

>>722968614
>Even Hades himself showed up unprompted on rule34 sucking a cock,
hot

I'm glad I didn't force myself to play more than 2 hours, it's the most distilled pozzed shit. No style and I know it has substance, the gameplay looks fun and most of the reviews talk about it. I just wish it wasn't covered in a cum-coated pile of shat-out pierced condoms and feces.

I'm going to replay the original now and see if it was actually more fun or just nostalgia

>>722934409 (OP)
It's fun but the writing, characters and dialogue are mostly boring and forgettable. The first game didn't have AMAZING writing or anything but fuck at least Zag had bants with his Dad.

>>722969667
Zag was always trying to break the ice so all his interactions ended up being fun, meanwhile Mel always says "the right and respectful thing" even when the characters tell a joke to her she never follows it up lol

Whore...

What an absolute fuck-face run. I very soon realized that I have denied every attack boon and was left with Ares's dick in my hands. Denial vow is such a trap.

>>722938993
>pick a curse and attack type
>stack boons that affect that curse and slot
>win
yeah man its that easy

>>722970965
Man I'd be more willing to do that with Aphrodite if the game didn't all but scream at you to keep away while fighting.

Did anyone else expected some kind of twist at the end? Because of some dialogue I was thinking maybe Hecate was gonna end up being the villain all along or something since Zagreus says when you mention her that he doesn't know about any handmaiden of Nyx. or that maybe there was gonna be some intrigue like that

I just found it weird that basically everything was exactly as it looked

>>722973474
there is a twist at the very very end. it's not very good

>buy Scylla's song for the crossroads
>it doesn't play the lyrics
lame, I want my kudos back

>>722973474
Tbf that's basically what Hades 1 did. The game sets up quite a few mysteries just for the twist to be there's no twist.

>>722970383
Worse, she's a bore

>>722973820
That IS a jip. Wtf.

What do you have to do to get the "One who rebels against the gods". I don't need to do Vow or Rivals do I?

I think the hardest I've had my shit pushed in playing Hades is when I used the antler keepsake that capped my health at 30, and did the Rivals vow and got to the Cyclops.

>>722978679
isn't that the prometheus and pandora plot?
>>722978994
there's a chaos challenge that forces you to use the antler keepsake. it's fun.

Normies must love Hades 1 for the marvel quips dialogue or the novelty of roguelike mechanics (if they never played any before)
Because this game must be the shittiest rougelike I played in years.
After beating Hades once you pretty much saw 95% of the content that the game has. 4 fucking biomes and 4 fucking bosses (with small "variations"). Like this is laughably bad. And most of the boons are increasing power and changing the skill color of your attacks.

Replayed Hades 1 a few months back since I hadn't reached the Epilogue or completed many questlines. Doing most of everything worsened my opinion on the game considerably with the drip feed of progress even when winning almost every run and the unsatisfying conclusions to side characters. Where, if at all, does Hades 2 improve on the first?

>>722979459
the gameplay in hades 2 is much smoother than hades 1. omega attacks, hexes and only 1 dash all improve the gameplay substantially.

>>722935517
What killed you?

I was iffy on aspect of Anubis Descura, but good god as soon as you get a decently level Hephaestus boon on the attack and go all in on Olympian effects like ares blades and blitz (as well as shit like rallying cry and air quality) it just cracks open bosses. I beat the eye of Typhon in 15 seconds.

>>722963468
>outside of sickle and dagger?
Yes? Maxed Nergal, Supay is great, Hel is great, Anubis is great but you have to build it with some mindfulness, Shiva is kinda shit though.

Enjoyed it overall but I still feel like the first game has way better combat, weapons and bosses. It's also the same exact game so I got burnt out after 30 runs while I autistically played the first game non stop until 100%

Just had this run. Breezed through everything.

>>722982569
Nice, I don't remember chain reaction.

>>722952190
Nergal Hammer, Supay Torches and Mel Coat.

the ending is so fucking bad and I'm still mad about it

>>722982270
the weapons are my biggest gripe with this game

>>722934409 (OP)
>every conversation is just Mel and some other god sucking each other's dicks with flattery
Half the cast in the hub are parody-tier dickheads. Eris, nemesis, hephaestus, heracles, so many characters are assholes to such a degree that they feel like they were added as a meme. The rest of the characters are great because they're normal. No one really engages in any kind of overly positive shit like you're saying. Icarus best guy btw.

>did the Circe aspect trial with Toula
at last I truly see.
Holy shit that is so stupidly OP

>>722984430
>Eris
Literally her job to be a massive cunt
>Nemesis
Literally her job to be a massive cunt
>Hephaestus is an asshole
Take that back he's great
>Heracles
I'd be pissed too if I were him.

>>722982569
CLANG CLANG CLANG
COME ONE MEL
SCORE SOME FACKING NIGHTMARE

>>722984430
Eris is a piece of hatefuckcorrectionmeat, she's STRIFE incarnate and meant to be a cunt and I really like her actually.

>>722958734
Why do scorch boons then have scorch damage and it's always lower than 100 without many levels?

>>722984430
Hephaestus is great to Meli, fuck are you talking about? He's just a dwarf about it. Should've used Hera as an example and at least she gives her honest life advice occasionally even before she warms up to Meli like everyone else who isn't Eris (Nem starts out as a solid cunt before the mommy issues come out)

>>722959139
>This game really does suffer from being played from the viewpoint of a zealot child soldier with an active aversion to questioning authority.
Yea what the fuck were they thinking by making "teacher's pet" the protagonist and then never making her grow or change? I guess it's another episode of "shut up and listen to orders, women know best" from stars war, and at the end a man saves the day anyway, what.

Everything feels like a bethesda quest - cool premise if you simplify it to 2 words, but then not elaborated or expanded. I still don't even know what this whole "Crossroads" supposed to be about and why they worship the moon or whatever. Besides the basic "this is a safe place. it exists because it's a safe space for us."

>>722935087
why the fuck did they hide his health bar?

>use the missle launcher weapon
>poseidon special
>zeus attack
>hestia cast
>get Arc Flash, Killer Current and Thermal Dynamics
>rest of game is easy as fuck

>>722963468
axe is very good, esp if you get daedaddy hammer upgrade for heal.
staff is op, omega attack just deals infinite damage.
i forgot what skull does so i guess its shit
gauntlets is ass
scepters are fine, just feels annoying to use imo.
daggers actually felt like ass to me, just too slow by default and the special combo cool but not worth going ham on.

>>722935517
it really do be that way huh

>>722985791
scepters with scorch are mega busted, literally just hold attack and win

>>722934409 (OP)
The dialogue is so bad that I don't really wanna play anymore. The first Hades was pretty gay but this one is super super super fucking gay.

I got the credits, now what?

>>722985845
i meant the special aspects only. So special aspect of scepters is annoying.

>>722985945
sorry im blind

>>722963468
you need to get the other aspects

circe for staff, just get the pet bird since it is always attacking so your cast will always be in the enemy's face

pan for sister blades and you just spam cast and omega special

umbra...any is fine, i like the daybreaker one

axe. no idea on this one its the one weapon im shit with because of how slow it is

medea skull, spam attack+special so you're dashing in and out for insane damage

i just use the normal black coat and spam special but people prefer to use the insane attack speed for this one

>>722985938
Quit because getting second ending or god forbid 100% is not worth it.

>>722985625
The weirdest thing is the framework, the potential to actually acknowledge those issues is THERE. It really feels like they CONSIDERED going down that route and then cowarded out right before release. Hera is a major cunt on a regular basis. Arachne and Echo were both done dirty. Hecate by her own admission did Meli dirty by training her as a child soldier. There were many, many opportunities for Meli to stick it to the man by finally fucking picking a side and standing by her principles.

Except she didn't. She handles every conflict almost stereotypically like a woman: By just staying in the background, all but begging everyone to be friends, being a doormat for everyone's immediate needs without dwelling further on why those needs were present, and hoping things just kind of work out. Shit this even applies to the actual ending of the game: Meli is pissed at Zagreus for not letting her take a swing at Chronos, but is such a pushover that the game just cuts to her and Zag hanging out together while the house is rebuilt and in subsequent infernal contract battles it's barely even acknowledged.

It genuinely does feel like the game is trying to consistently portray Meli as a total doormat in everything except doing her job and relationship shit (sometimes)/

>"Crossroads"
It's basically limbo, it's the tippy top of the underworld and where all the lost souls end up. So, hard to find.
>why they worship the moon
The moon (Selene) gibs them powerups because the Fates said so. The entire Silver Sisters thing (apart from being basically a superhero team) basically boils down to a friendship-based black ops unit with no oversight. Or well, they would say they are each others' oversight.

>>722986167
>Shit this even applies to the actual ending of the game
Still can't believe the big plan that was in the works for decades (or who knows how long if we add Hekate) was just...lets wing it? To kill Chronos you need a spear from the past, which no one knew about until Mel asked Zag "hey you have anything of use lying around?" and then needed to kill giant monster which no one knew about until Mel saw it on the mountain.
Maybe if they foreshadowed it with Hek but it really felt like "its all gonna work out just fine don't worry about it".

>16 hours later
>not even halfway to bump limit
Grim.

>>722986376
>Chronos wouldn't have lost if he just didn't overthink his own plan and NOT unleashed Typhon, which multiple characters comment on would simply cause more problems for actually ruling the world for him even if he won anyway
I really thought they were just going to do the obvious thing and go ask Chaos to just slap his shit after baiting him out of the underworld, since timestops are so OP that apparently Meli and only Meli is the only one who can reliably break out of one. For some reason. Not even Hecate can, and Hecate is an even more powerful version of Meli from the future who maybe has some of Chronos' powers.

is it possible to reset the shadow bounty board thing? most of the bounties are stuck on prometheus and he's too hard for me right now

>>722987268
Nope. What you get is what you're given.

>>722985820
Star Platinum with depression

>>722987268
WAKU WAKU, Melinoë-sama, you sure are strong!

>>722987545
kek

I'm missing Icarus and who's the other one?

>>722987843
oh wow how do you get those?

>>722934409 (OP)
>Good breast size
>Big thighs
>Barefoot all the time
How much porn can we expect from her?

>>722987905
Need to bond with said character I think. Then you unlock their plushie. Might be after enough upgrades, might be after finishing the game. I've been playing since EA so I'm not sure.

>>722988118
Almost nothing good since 99% of it is horrid tumblr style shit

>>722988118
barely, I dunno why this game is cursed it barely has hentai
probably because japs don't know about it

>>722989178
Nips think it's too wordy

>>722934409 (OP)
The dialogue is so fucking shit in this game, I fucking hate basedlenial writing and character design so fucking much. I just skip all of the dialogue now. Can't spoil me on 2.5k year lore especially when I'm sure they do an absolute shit job making it accurate or even close to accurate at all.

I hate zesty Chronos so much it's unreal. Why did they have to turn him into an old twink?

What would you choose?

DLC
>new aspects for all weapons
>rivals 2.0 for all bosses

or
DLC
>playable zagreus with hades1's infernal arms

>>722991142
He is just old? What the fuck?
He looks like an elderly Boondocks character that's more fit.

>>722991404
the only form of dlc i'd be remotely interested is a new path like surface / underworld.

>>722991142
Oh good, I'm not just seeing things. Yeah i have no idea what the fuck they were thinking with that design, he somehow looks way less homosexual without his shirt on.

>>722934409 (OP)
Skipped this woke slop and just started playing TBoI again. It's so good

>doing great chaos below trial
>gives me the bell in the fields
>the effect stays on after changing regions and keeps going up
Motherfucker. At least it wasn't Artemis.

>>722991404
playable zagreus with new aspects to choose from.
hidden aspects 1 were Champions, 2 had underworld powers, so the new set should be heavenly powers

>>722991527
Not his first design, the second one he gets once he is "redeemed".

>>722987843
I think you are only missing Icarus. I don't know what Odesussy wants from me.

>>722993028
Yes? And?
As I said. He looks like an elderly boondocks character. Just one who is kind of in shape for his age.
He is scraggly but with muscle. And after being "redeemed" he is drawn calmer in the tired way that elderly people often are.

Hows the Modding scene?

>>722994801
it's all scripted in lua so modding is trivial as fuck, the question is whether there's any interest for it.

>>722991404
DLC that reworks whole game into an actually good one.

>>722975527
>even Chaos, the mega autist, found her boring

>>722994923
tell me more. I have done 30+ runs since I beat the game, but I only seen Zag contract once. I need one more for trinket.

They had the opportunity to make the coolest metagaming feature in years by making you boot up Hades 1 to do a small Zagreus levels as bonus content and they botched it

Could've just reused the satyr levels and add some dialogue it would've been so worth it.

>>722996294
i thought it would be a mindfuck where you have to play both zag and mel and have two storylines

>>722994801
I've looked a bit at Hades 1 mods and there's some that add new keepsakes, gods etc but honestly nothing I'd really install to try out.

>>722955979
It was somewhat funny how Mel just couldnt get how the pantheon is mostly assholes and she pretty much always stuck with gods being superior than everyone and everything else.

>>722998603
It's particularly weird because this is the polar opposite of the Hades 1 ending. Zagreus learned that Hades had reasons for doing what he did, and that his relatives could be disproportionate assholes. And reacted accordingly.

Meli's entire character seems to be that she's determined to live life with tunnel vision. She snaps at Icarus trying to ask what she's going to do next. Hecate, her previous self, is in this entire situation because she sacrificed everything to try to kill Chronos and ended up stuck as a Bastion reference. Meli is so averse to being proactive that ZAGREUS is the one who unlocks the golden ending.

If the game highlighted it just a little more, I'd think that was supposed to be Meli's core character flaw. But she never really acknowledges it as a flaw. She just flies off on the moon chariot with her frens like they're the Avengers.

I haven't played since the early alphas and it looks like the boons have changed pretty significantly

What's the OP shit now?

>>722970383
that little dress! you're such a mess!

>>722999259
Charon axe is still incredibly powerful but the nerfing of Hera's ridiculous damage has made it merely very good instead of the absolute best weapon in the game. Right now I think Flames of Supay with Poseidon or Hera on Special (do you hate mobs or bosses more?) and Zeus on Attack cleans out pretty much everything easily while working with the playstyle the game seems to want you to naturally incline towards well (i.e. run in circles and shit out casts behind you)

>>723000086
alright, good to know

I seem to remember at one point that the argent skull with aphrodite specials did absurd amounts of damage, that still the case?

>>723000442
Oh hell no. They cut down hard on a lot of damage-adding boons, Aphrodite's were basically halved.

>>722956963
I love this idea so much more than what we fucking got. The game also plays so light with even the "woke" stuff that people complain about. I wanted zeus to try and hit on Zag or literally any of the guy characters. Or Mel to stop being a fence sitter with literally any of her romantic interests. I just got to the ending and im already pretty bored even though i'm only up to vow level 12 or something. Is there anyway to speed it up? Feel like i'm already starting to see a lot less dialogue after making things good with chronos. Also not sure how to get the next keepsake after Zag and Hades.

The ending is fucking shit desu
They completely dropped the ball compared to Hades 1

>>722985279
If you have Scorch on a weapon that attacks quickly (like the Blades or Torch) you can easily stack the Scorch damage faster than it burns off, to the point that you'll find yourself "wasting" dps on tanky enemies when they have enough Scorch damage stacked up to kill them but you don't want to wait several seconds for them to die

qrd on the best aspects in the game?

>>723002848
Aspect of Circe and Toula is amazingly busted.
focus everything on casts and activate the cat and the cast will always land on an enemy

>>723003519
i find circe to be way too clunky. pharaoh is sweet with hera and momus is the best by far for typhon

>>723002848
just bee yourself.
Really though pharaoh is the only "op" aspect i can think of. I guess special sucks ass with it but doesn't really matter. Really hard to beat the "put a field down and get free damage while focusing on dodging".
Also because i hate clicking constantly and theres no other way to spam attacks in this gay game (yea i can hold control but its annoying and i forget about it)

I don't feel much difference between the weapons on normal fear levels really.
It's only after taking certain vows that feel like my choices get more restrictive.
With the minus magick on boon rarity everything that uses a lot magick gets obviously worse. You can't even use the hel special if you don't constantly reup on some magick and take some early.
Ward makes everything slow and non multihit a little worse.
Dealing with armor is usually a non-issue but if you juice the amount of enemies, their speed and health weapon that deal well with armored enemies are better.

How are you supposed to feel good about these games when everything's just luck and the goal of the game is to make everything as easy as possible? And the same goes for every ARPG.

>night bloom revives Chronos' healing adds
if you're ever having trouble with the rivals fight, just use that. Given how massive the arena is, you practically can't lose

>>722940238
>The resurrection hex is pretty good too but can't compete
It definitely can with the right upgrades. That hex has carried me more than anything else in this game. Get the one where resurrected enemies never disappear and that by itself is already huge.

>>722940713
>>723005964
It's weird that I never heard bosses summoning enemies being referred to as "adds" until recently, now I'm hearing it everywhere.

>>723006193
It's been common parlance for at least 20 years

>>723006193
did you just start playing video games recently

>>723005146
I just wish we could delete darkness perk from the game.

I've only gotten to chronos 3 times so far, but how am I supposed to beat him exactly? His health bar is massive and both he and his attacks just blend with the background and are hard to see.

>>723007174
you keep trying till you figure it out
that's what we all did, there is no trick to it

>>723007742
lmao

>>723007174
He leaves openings after most of his combos, especially his wind blast, so hit and run him.
The main danger is trying to trade with him because of how quick the combos are.

>>723007174
Against Hades I used to dodge everything he did close to his body and get some hits in any time.
I feel like this doesn't work well against Chronos.
It's easier to just kite him around and wait for the obvious openings and prefebly taking something that deals some chip damage on range even if it just a hex.

>get 'raise last killed enemy' hex and the 'raised servant lasts forever instead of expiring' perk on its tree
>get first Chronos kill while just dodging
shrimple as that

>>723008154
man you reminded me of my first hades kill
I had aspect of arthur, had a boon that makes me recover health on each hit and kept doing the arthur damage reduction circle
good times

WOWIE 30% that's like like a whole 10dmg per second for the low of cost of running into the enemy and missing your special which probably does like 300dmg per second.

>>723008027
i do stuff near Chronos all the time except for obvious "dont stand near me" patterns. Works good.

>>723008421
Yea, this bonus is just ? And ironically all you do on Supay is spam attack and special (charged versions) because they don't last that long and don't deal that much damage unelss you charge.
Rush boons also...uh, whats the point really? None of them feel good except for Hera, which can clear rooms easzy which is funny.

>>723008595
And still less damage than just using Hestia or Zeusmaxxing if you using fast weapons...sad

>>723008421
But what if Hephaestus boon? That's like 260 damage every 5 seconds if epic. What a steal.

>>722955979
>that dialogue
>PanDora
Holy shit I'm retarded for not realizing sooner.

>>723008421
devs got the "must balance everything" mind virus

>Aphrodite is a BBC slut
Of course.

>>723009474
he is not black and that's not what tall dark and handsome means
but yes she is into everything, she'd fuck an animal

>>723009537
Which god wouldn't

>>723009474
>>723009537
She only fucks tall, rich, ugly bastards, actually.

CLANGED

>>723009474
>>723009693
What a hideously ugly style. Why do so many women draw all characters like androgynous degenerates? It's disgusting.

>>723010190
>androgynous
post hips and tits

>>723009474
Aren't half the pantheon in this game niggers anyway?

>>722947427
rerolls are a noobtrap

I'm 170 nights in and the arachne and oddyseus storylines are still not done. Just fucking tell me already what you want.

>>723006492
>>723006474
That's the thing. I'm 35 yet I swear I never heard it before Silksong and Hades 2. Might be the kinds of games I played, but bosses always had summons, mooks, minions... not adds.