Thread 722936032

Games like Noita, Elin, Dwarf Fortress, Factorio, Rain World, etc, that require extreme autism to be enjoyable. I play them for 30 minutes, get overwhelmed and just drop, I wanna stick with them and like them like the people that have 100+ hours in those games.

get autism

why force yourself to play games you don't enjoy

I usually spend ~10 hours in these before getting overwhelmed so I guess I only have mild autism

you can play noita without the autism, it's a solid roguelite on it's own. you just have to have the want for retarded spells to go out of your way to unlock them

>>722936161
Because those games are respected here unlike the games I like (Elden Ring, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, Hollow Knight, action games in general). I wanna be part of the smart gamers here and not one of the masses.

>>722936282
How do I learn Noita? Is it best played with controller or keyboard?

>>722937591
always be open for experimentation, use whatever controller you are most comfortable with but i personally think kb+m is better

Noita just hooked me because I needed a god run, when I actually got one I lost interest. Noita is an amazing game though,

I got filtered hard by Noita's difficulty but thematically it seems really cool. Just don't enjoy not getting any useful spells and dying in what feels like three hits without any ways to heal.

>>722936032 (OP)
Honestly the most fun in Noita is just fucking around and seeing what happens, I would not focus on the parallel worlds or crazy ass runs that last for days at all. Most of those are beyond tedious and are just frustrating more than they are rewarding or fulfilling. The daily random run is fantastic for just fucking around and learning things.

>>722936364
nta but i like games that are respected and not respected at all by 4chan(nel) and yea, you shouldnt give a fuck about that. i know youre baiting for replies but just in case

>>722936032 (OP)
just set short term goals and dont look up everything the game has to offer at once

>>722936032 (OP)
>Manage to finish the descent and beat the last boss a few times
>Get an 'always cast healing-circle wand
>Destroy the world and parallel worlds
Lack of healing really is the only thing that makes the game hard. Once you have it on tap it's all over.
Putting that aside, a lot of the secrets are pretty arcane bullshit.

>>722936032 (OP)
>Rain World
Idk if I'd include that in this category. Anyway 30 minutes is not a lot of time to give any game to 'click'.

If it's not your game it's not your game, Noita in particular is a punishing and convoluted pile of autism.
I suggest factorio, you can go slow, the rest of the games you listed there are heavy autism simulators.

>>722936032 (OP)
>Games like Noita, Elin, Dwarf Fortress, Factorio, Rain World, etc, that require extreme autism to be enjoyable.
>Anything that requires a smidgeon of actual thought is "extreme autism" now
Sorry to break it to you boy but you're just below the basic standards for sentience, stick to your moviegames

I never understood people who wish they could enjoy games they don't actually enjoy. Schizophrenic logic.

>>722936032 (OP)
1) Do you have autism

-Yes
>Play the game

-No
>Consume your body weight in Tylenol
>Start over from (1)

>>722937591
no, controller is guaranteed failure in noita.

>>722936032 (OP)
>Step 1: be autistic
That's it

>>722938962
>Lack of healing really is the only thing that makes the game hard. Once you have it on tap it's all over.

this, and whats annoying is that its basically just rng that prevents it. i had the same thing where i had a heal circle always cast and honestly theres no other way to play the endgame content without that.

>>722938985
That game is extremely autistic dude, you have 10 minutes in each cycle to find food and a new shelter otherwise you return to the last cycle, the time limit is what filters me, it makes the game stressful instead of fun.

>>722939449
there are guarenteed ways to get healing, it just won't be on demand. the real absolute way to beat noita every time is being able to travel around the map freely.

>>722936032 (OP)
Appreciate what you got faggot.
A bird doesn't complain about it ability to climb and a cat doesn't complain about its ability to fly

>>722939564
This isn't really anything like noita, df or factorio which have more of a reputation for mechanical depth that you need encyclopedic knowledge of if you want to really master the game. That's just an example of punishing mechanics, not necessarily deep mechanics.

>>722936032 (OP)
Can't force it

>>722936364
I diagnose you with littlebitch-itis. Unfortunately, it's incurable, I suggest euthanasia.

>>722937591
Keyboard 100%
Learn to wand craft. Properly crafting wands can carry you to relm 4 easy even with shitty spells. Dont be afriad to look up videos explaining how wand crafting works, youll pick up on most of it just from messing around but theres plenty of unintuitive mechanics that youll never realize exist.
Also chainsaw is the strongest spell in the game hoard wands that have it

>>722939084
Haven't played most of them but Noita and Factorio are absolutely autism games
>noita revolves around making a good wand through effectively coding the proper spell
>base run to the end is only 5% of the game without even taking parallel worlds into account
>extremely obscure puzzles that no one in their right mind would figure out on their own including some that are still unsolved to this day
>factorio is based around making your factory more efficient
>nothing else matters, you can always improve your throughput and the way to improve that gets increasingly complex as time goes on

>>722936032 (OP)
>I play them for 30 minutes, get overwhelmed and just drop
Keep playing them until they click

finally got the crown the other day

>>722936032 (OP)
If you don't like it then it's not for you. Not sure why you'd even want to get into them, they are a massive timesink. Playing factorio for 300 hours after you experienced everything because you made up some arbitrary goal to achieve isn't fun for everyone.

>>722939285
Idk I kind of get the mentality, you see other people discussing the actual gameplay and sharing their unique anecdotes about stuff that happened, their successes and failures, laughing at utterly weird strategies that somehow work etc. because they're the type of games that naturally produce that kind of discourse, and it all sounds like a lot of fun so you want in on the action.

>>722936032 (OP)
>>722936364
it's ok anon, i don't enjoy any of those games you like

>>722936364
>caring what other --people-- channers think
kys faggot

>>722936032 (OP)
Noita is just "difficult" because all the other games trained you wrong. You want to be slow and thorough with Noita.
You A-B test wands for 10+ minutes in the Holy Mountain. You check every inch of a zone for stuff. You play like your real life is on the line.
You don't rush through zones. You don't hit trade. You don't waste resources. If that doesn't sound appealing, it might not be for you.
>>722937591
Keyboard. The game expects a level of precision shooting.

>>722936032 (OP)
According to the mutt land president, you can just take Tylenol.

>>722936364
normalfag
kill yourself
stupid nigger
you're the reason why this board is shit
because people don't actually want to play games
people like you

>>722936364
>I wanna be part of the smart gamers here
People on this board don't play videogames.

>>722936032 (OP)
The games don't require extreme autism to be enjoyable, but most of those extreme games you read/hear about are the results of some kind of autism.

The average player will have a much more average experience.

>>722937591
Biggest tip is just learning how to keep the Holy Mountains alive so you CAN experiment more. As to how to do that there's a trigger to destroy it right where the sloped section of the exit is. You can teleport past it, or use polymorph through it since being polymorphed bypasses triggers. Once you get strong enough to fight Steve, you can just use black hole/luminous drill/plasma to dig out of the mountains and just kill the steves

>>722936364
>I wanna be part of the smart gamers here and not one of the masses.
Then, you know what you must do

>>722943292
I already finished Infinifactory and Molek-Syntez, his games aren't as autistic as the ones I mentioned, they're just a series of self-contained programming puzzles, it's pretty easy to get into them and just enjoy.

>>722942882
Can confirm, knowledge of how to leave and re-enter holy mountains is one of the key tipping point between surviving and thriving. Rescue great spells from shitty wands whenever you want and save those health refills for a rainy day.

>>722940443
>noita revolves around making a good wand through effectively coding the proper spell
it takes almost no effort, the only autism spell crafting requires is for shit like world tele or multi saved tele locations or creating a DDR room type shit
>base run to the end is only 5% of the game without even taking parallel worlds into account
parallel worlds aren't autism depth either they're just means to getting more loot there's nothing inherently difficult to understand about them
>extremely obscure puzzles that no one in their right mind would figure out on their own including some that are still unsolved to this day
name them, there is only a single unsolved puzzle

I think you might just have a case of the dumb my nigger

>>722940443
>some that are still unsolved to this day
Holy shit, is that real? That's insane if true.

>>722936032 (OP)
Wait, how is Rain World an "Autism Game"? Isn't it just a normal stealth game?

>>722944198
Honestly unsolved mysteries in games aren't that interesting. It's not hard to make a puzzle that's just complete bullshit that's unsolvable unless you can probe the dev's mind.

>>722936032 (OP)
I thought noita was just a 2D platformer?

>>722944367
Can't hackers see the code though? How can a puzzle remain unsolved if you can see the game's coding?

>>722943848
>name them
The eye messages in parallel worlds
The cauldron room
The cipher puzzle from using cessation for too long

>>722944231
See >>722939564

what i hate about noita is that you have to be completely locked in at all times or else something stupid will 1-shot you, like a pixel of an o2 canister buried in the snow or lava from a dying firebug bubbling up through the ground or an npc grabbing a nuke wand offscreen

>>722936364
play kenshi

>>722945252
kenshi isn't a smart game, its just a game where you get beat up over and over until you turn into goku

>>722942141
need more sexy noita pics

>>722945325
>get beat up over and over until you turn into goku
story of my life

>>722939961
RW's movement is extensively autistic though
here's a very abridged version of non character specific movtech

>>722944668
The cessation cipher has been solved and the cauldron's logic was reverse-determined to be a key for solving it.
Does that mean the cauldron is solved? No, but the developers also said "I'd maybe recommend not being too concerned about the cauldron for the time being."

>>722936032 (OP)
Shape of Dreams
It's like noita but you can edit around your skills any time

I'm so frustrated that i didn't like Noita. It's clearly a great game but all its elements are things i don't like playing.
I desperately want you to explain in detail what you find fun in Noita, where's your fun and how, why are you having fun?

>>722945560
That's like saying sm64 is autistic. You don't need to BLJ everywhere though.

>>722945869
vast majority of the tech is emergent or intentional
it was done for creating the illusion of a deeper world, and in a way - it is a lot deeper mechanically and narratively than it first appears

>>722946001
I agree that the controls are a lot more nuanced than I think probably anyone expected going in blind (certainly me), but you can still see everything the game has to offer without needing to have mastered more than a few key movement skillz.

do you guys remember the noita schizo who insisted that adding fall damage to the game would make it better?
i forget if he was the same guy who also made all those harry potter edits cuz he was mad that people were making porn of noita

>>722936032 (OP)
first step: vaccinate yourself so that you catch autism

>>722944606
It is a standalone puzzle, the game has been completely compiled and all the triggers checked and nothing has come of it (so arguably it has no effect on the game itself), whatever logic/key has to be used to solve the cypher supposedly can be gleaned from the puzzle itself or holding the dev at gunpoint

>>722936364
Anon I'm gonna let you in on a secret
All of those games are loved on here too
The people who shit on them are loud autistics, they drown out anyone else who actually likes the game
Someone who simply likes a game isn't gonna make 50 posts talking about how great it is, they'll make one, then move on with their life because they're secure in their own opinion
The autistic will sit here and fill an entire thread with his autism about how this game is totally bad and you should stop playing it. These people do not matter. Play what you like. People here will always pretend that every popular video game is bad.
If Bloodborne came out on PC tomorrow suddenly half of /v/ would change their tune and start posting about how bad BB is and how it was never good.

>>722945778
i find most of the fun lies in experimenting with building wands and observing a lot of the chaotic things that naturally occur in the world around you
also getting over powered and getting your revenge on all the fuckers who used to give you a hard time is satisfying

>>722945252
>>722945325
Is it an RPG?

>>722945560
Post the non-abridged version.

I dont see most of these as autism games. Factorio requires too much conceptual thinking to be truly autistic. Autism moreso describes rather easy activities that are done repetitively.

>>722940443
>>noita revolves around making a good wand through effectively coding the proper spell
Nigga, Chainsaws+Light Drill alone shit on 90% of the game, you don't need anything else unless you're purposedly planning a 33 orb run in which you simply build any DoT flavour you want and it's trivial to do so if you have any basic understanding of the game's logic, which isn't anything special

>>722936032 (OP)
Is this >>722936282 key word "want", these games don't hold your hand, they show you mechanics and what possible, or rather you realize what is possible, which makes you hooked even more since it tricks you into believing you are "genius" who discover something special. You can observe a lot of this in pathetic e-celebs who the second discovering sub-meta starts start feeling like they are oracles of the game.

80% of their "fun" is arbitrary goals you set yourself. In honesty, even those games do actually hold your hand, by having an end goal. Dwarf fortress is probably the only one, but even then all the autsimo games have "tutorials" which you basically HAVE to thoroughly play to get into. Noita have an end goal, a boss at the bottom which is basically a tutorial and all the mechanics and exploration is a the actual game, not the linear path of the "story".

>>722936364
All those games are great too you dumb faggot. Trying to fit in is way worse than just having bad taste, and you don't even have bad taste.

>>722946678
That is just tedium, being autistic for these sorts of games means hyper focused and extreme knowledge of them even for niche details for example on Noita i can tell you that there is fall damage in the game but it only applies to fishes and anything polymorphed into a fish, i can also tell you that all emerald tablets have a green particle effect except for the tablet inside the tree which has a blue particle effect

>>722944606
There's a lot of ways to make secrets extremely difficult to datamine if you know what you're doing

>Dwarf Fortress: 446.1 Hours
>Noita: 100.4 Hours
>Factorio: 95.8 Hours
Does this really make me autistic?

>>722936032 (OP)
>using autism as a synonym for "complex and requires intelligence" instead of "retarded"
What has society come to

>>722947491
Holy shit, how can you have 446 hours in DF? What do you do in the game? Just keep creating new fortressess?

>>722936364
idk if you're baiting but that's pathetic.

>>722946451
When i built wands i ended up just shooting floating enemies all day long, something moves near the edge of my screen = shoot it before it shoots me.
I didn't find it chaotic. I found surviving to be a matter of conscientiously clearing corners like a SWAT person. Risk was bad, risks had to be avoided. And i didn't feel like a wizard.
I killed the kolmi boss twice and obviously that wasn't what the game was about. I was told to explore the map but explore to find what? More dudes to shoot and delete in a flash?

Everyone seems to use cheese strats to fight the bosses and this make me suspect that nobody finds the fighting gameplay to be fun. I will never understand Noita if i don't receive more precise answers about how it's fun.
I could describe why i find Rain World fun, in exchange, if someone is confused about RW.

>>722936032 (OP)
>Games like Noita, Elin, Dwarf Fortress, Factorio, Rain World, etc, that require extreme autism to be enjoyable
But all of these games are very easy and simple to understand, and most of them don't require any motor control and very little learning. Like how much of a retard do you have to be to not realize that factorio is just plopping down assembly machines until output is more than input then just copypasting that over and over. It's literally the same exact thing as making blocks in a city builder. Elin is just a literally retarded baby game and dwarf fortress is just an ant farm simulator with the controls on the side of the screen at all times.

>>722936364
Step one: have your first kiss past 20

>>722947575
Every run is totally different. It also took me like 100 hours just to learn how to play kek

>>722942141
>>722945346
kill yourself retarded fucking tranny

>>722947909
kill yourself fake oldfag nunime nigger

Rimworld is fun

>>722947710
>/v/irgin is confused at fun

>>722948537
Uh oh melty

>>722948756
you will never be old

>>722948712
sex haver is a normalnigger newnigger piece of shit using butthurt girl out of her will

normal friendniggers

>>722948775
God I wish

>>722948847
It's just a smug anime girl picture. There aren't rules about which picture one should attach to his post.

>>722947710
>And i didn't feel like a wizard.
You ever notice how everyone who wants to be a wizard is lame as fuck

>>722948571
more like rimjobworld lmao

>>722949089
you're cultureless for not knowing about it and out /a/ memes but also cultureful for that gif
>>722949073
>God I wish
yeah you wishn't, you avatar tranny coloured anime watcher. i am much bassier and godlier

>>722936032 (OP)
I love Noita but I just can't bring myself to spend 15-20 minutes wandering around on the surface to find a secret pyramid and get orbs or whatever the fuck when I know I'm gonna get owned in the hiisi base anyway.

I don't mind it, there's a bunch of deeper content for people who want it. I'd rather the game be so deep I drown than it be shallow and easily "solved" by even my unimaginative nature.

>>722936032 (OP)
just play and experiment, look up info when you get stuck or want something. Noita is an ARG like where you aren't expected to discover everything yourself without community help but even then it's still difficult to get things done past the knowledge check

>>722948336
>have kiss
Wtf man, that's impossible

>>722939449
>>722939573
You can get fairly good access to on demand healing, always cast healing circle or the various greek psycho methods to get more spells that can't be infinited are top of the line healing thats meant to be rare or difficult. I think the parallel world stuff is pretty silly as well though but it's basically just a massive knowledge check over RNG as you can probably produce a good want in 90% of runs

>>722936364
very cute

>>722936032 (OP)
you start by not playing the bad ones like noita and rain world and elin and the steam version of dwarf fortress, and instead play the good ones like elona and one of the versions of dwarf fortress from ~10 years ago

elin is one of those games I say I'm only gonna do a few more things and then I play for another 8 hours, probably gonna get a blood clot at this rate

>>722944198
>>722944367
eyes, cauldron, there's one more
>>722944606
Noita is pretty much an ARG game. Popular theory is that the finish condition for the eye puzzle hasn't been coded yet for the dev's final update but yeah the eyes are fairly schizophrenic. Everything else sort of had a ton of foreshadowing and indirect pointers for how you can finish the puzzle. Eyes are truly bullshit though

>>722936032 (OP)
Rain world is ADHD, and Noita/Elin=Spergs

>>722945778
>What I find fun
Wandcrafting, the memes, the community, killing myself through my hubris
You sort of have to put yourself in the wizard roleplay program to cook up good and cool wands. Inevitably some interaction you didn't think about or know will kill you but that's part of the fun too. There's usually a lot of different ways to play around with stuff even if the enemy design is extremely cancer and punishing without a good single cast or machinegun wand in certain areas or how some spells border on unusable without explosive or lightning resistance

>>722947575
i'm glad there isn't a way to track my hours in real dwarf fortress not that steam pile of shit, 400 hours is nothing

>>722936364
masterful

>>722946865
moving light drill and the wand crafting mechanics that let you cast at 0 mana are pretty advanced tech especially for some dude that just started out

>>722946627
there's no comperhensive guide as of yet because the game has been recently updated, but
there's an old 100 page doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o3gouaiHsHT2H9d2HD5gDhgmoWwoL94gSFt7Ka1-vDk
and this WIP wiki https://rwtechwiki.github.io/

>>722936364
i don't know why you're getting flamed for this. it's perfectly sensible to see these games getting endless praise on /v/ despite being often obtuse and difficult to understand and wishing you could have fun with them. i did this with noita and rain world but dropped them because i knew that i would be having fun maybe like 5% of the time for the first 20 hours of gameplay - but i wish i could have liked them.

>>722949686
>errrmmmmm it's a meme you dip
wow just... wow

>>722950756
Rainworld is autism-lite since it has some relatively esoteric lore and puzzles/interactions but a lot of it is meant to be discoverable by you naturally as opposed to the Noita approach to having a community figure out a puzzle together

>>722950962
i will make you into my slave and you will give me the best snacks around

Read a beginner fort guide and follow it for dwarf fortress
Install the change wands anywhere mod for noita

Play what you like how you like. For real autism games you got to get used to having guides open and reading them.

>>722950938
No shame in not liking RW or Noita if it isn't your cup of tea. Everyone thinks and peddles them as high investment games where you might get your shit kicked in more often at the start than you would like but they usually say it has redeeming elements. Some people don't like intrinsic exploration games and that's perfectly valid

>>722949686
I must defend my previous post here since i might also be collaterally defending other future anons and damnit 4chan society matters to me.
Of course i know about kyon-kun denwa and it is you who seem to think that this smug loli is the butthurt girl like it's some offsite rigid meme template or something. You clearly are the one who don't know what he's talking about and you should calm down, i say down with your oppression and your war burning our homely countryside.
What your wrote is the result of "monkey see monkey do ladder banana". You don't have culture you have the imprint of the beatings anons inflict on one another. Superficial and secondary understanding and i'm sorry that i couldn't teach you how to love Anonymous discussion.

I just got out of baby jail, too. I don't know why i couldn't resist choosing the gay porn picture.

>>722947492
iktf
My flavor of autism is playing the same old games from my childhood in adfinitum. I hate it

>>722951584
That's not autism, that's infantile age regression

>>722951332
anon i am much godlier than you i was there when the joke was made in that thread
you're trying way too hard with the conjunctions
she's just a reaction picture that goes along with the Seinfeld dude
she's a butthurt girl for me and i am stupid and stupid people are enlightened!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

>>722951319
cancer wank tryhard

Rain World just requires curiosity and patience. Isn't that like the opposite of autism?

>>722951747
Shut up and post more flatties in spats

>>722952020
you were in the wrong here you stupid slave. i owned you and now you will bring me the finest snacks

>>722951924
Agreed rain world is strangely part of OP's list.
RW is more immersive than systemic, it's a role play game and i really think we should redefine what role playing means in videogames.
To me it's not about character stats or adventuring party composition.

>>722952495
Sorry, if your posts doesn't have any flats in spats I won't read it

Rain World doesn't require autism you're just shit at platformers OP.

>>722952684
you lost

>>722952957
>no flats
>no spats
Didn't read

>>722951924
not quite, autism is about hyperfocus and interest over obscure knowledge and stuff. It isn't exclusive with respect to curiosity and patience

>>722951824
Post better Noitas then.

>>722952612
It has nothing to do with role playing.

>>722936032 (OP)
Start off with small goals. For example, try to beat the game. If you don't know how, try new mechanics within the game and see if you can surmise what you have to do. These games are meant to be played and learned over weeks of trial and error.

Essentially, when you get bored with Elden Ring, FFVII Remake, and your main catalog, open up some Niota, explore for 5-10 minutes, die then go play something else, repeat.

You gradually learn them more and more and it is this gigantic game with so many secrets. It is cool to delve in every now and then, and then on occasion, BOOM, you find a build, you find something that works, EUREKA! You go farther than you ever have into the deep depth of Noita, and who knows, maybe you beat the game.

Well, then what? You learned what you have to learn to beat the game, where is the challenge now? Where is the intrigue?

Well. Try new combos, discover new secrets, piece together new information every time you play, and you will discover many of these autistic games reward experimentation so much to the point where you can only access "True" endings by mastering the games mechanics.

Truly a rewarding, gnostic fueled experience. But personally, these games piss me off for about 100 hours, then they start getting fun. Also I am kind of a brainlet, so I consult the wiki probably more so than the average autist player.

>>722936032 (OP)
Am i autistic?

>>722942141
I love witches with big tits

>>722957105
lmao

>>722936032 (OP)
just do it? or don't, why put pressure on yourself if its not rewarding to you

>>722958149
What's that? Minecraft clone?

>>722959047
It was more of a roblox clone than anything. Blockland, if I remember correctly, came out long before Minecraft, but around Roblox. You could think of it as a sort of lego building game, you could do all kinds of shit in it.

>>722955049
See? You lack the vocabulary to recognize games like assassin's creed and Rain World as the RPGs they are.

>>722959103
>Roblox is older than Minecraft
Holy shit wtf? You learn something everyday

>>722958149
>>722959103
You heard of Brickadia? Spriritual successor to Blockland.
The game's development has reached a point where it is now on par with Return to Blockland and then some with its features.

>>722936032 (OP)
Noita is legit a game u turn ur brain off for, at least for exploration. The devs are actually insane in his they handled exploration and it's far better to just go straight down and explore enough that you don't go to side areas.

>>722936032 (OP)
Elin/dwarf/rimworld/factorio just have a harsh barrier for entry.

Elin and dwarf are modern successors for styles of game that died 20 and 30 years ago, so their barrier of entry is that they are the "first" game in that genre people get while also being the most complicated. Veteran pc gaming boomers find them intuitive.

Rimworld is the most accessible "autism" game. A bit complicated but good colony builder. The graphics and controls are also mostly intuitive to anyone with 100 iq. On normal difficulty late-game basically requires exploits or gaming wealth to remain competitive though.

Factorio is just a niche game that makes niche fun. It's target demographic is just germans

>>722936032 (OP)
Dwarf Fortress is super easy. Setup all your nobles. The game literally plays itself once you get work orders. If you play Rimworld, you can play dwarf fortress. It's not any harder or easier.

Otherwise you have no data on your fort, you have no idea what is or isn't being made, what you need, or what you have enough of, etc. Bins, Barrels, Booze and meals. That's it. That's all you need. You can AFK for hours after that without issue. DF is not entirely what you think it is, once you just setup your fuckin nobles.

>>722959651
Post your factory.

>>722959651
How bruh? You just keep optimizing your factory? Why not spend that time learning actual programming?

>>722936032 (OP)
I love autismo games like Noita, Rimworld, Binding of Isaac, Caves of Qud etc...
In Noita it's dope just trying to break the game only to discover it was intended.

>>722959408
I have, though not good things, but it was years back. Bad things about the community mostly.

>>722959981
It's not finished yet. I'll show when it's finished, you will see.
I listened to nobody's advice which should make the result at least funny. I came up with a skittish train system for my ore where incoming trains push stationed trains out because i didn't have room to build waiting bays at the smelting outposts so it looks like antsy trains get spooked from behind by smug trains who then get spooked in turn, very moe.

I have the same problem op. I really want to get into Elin but I get overwhelmed and go play something simpler

>>722942882
Noita's a fun game but the holy mountain shit is incredibly stupid and gay. using teleports to get in and out is fine but the game actively punishes you for trying to dig out unless you followed a guide on how to avoid the "kill box".

>>722937591
Controller is suffering for Noita.
Take each floor at a time. Each time you go through, try to explore more and more of the floors each time and learn the lessons they are trying to teach you. Aim for at least 600 gold and a couple wands and/or health pickups by the time you reach your first holy mountain.
Learn how to make due with the spells you have. Even things you'd consider to be total junk can be used to craft some beastly early game wands if you're clever enough.

>>722937591
noita is all about experimenting

>>722939449
>this, and whats annoying is that its basically just rng that prevents it
That's not true at all. Every single seed has guaranteed spots where you can get reliable healing.

>>722944487
It's more like a metroidvania roguelike with the most complex magic system out there and every pixel is simulated in the physics.

>>722958149
@FBI WE FOUND HIM

>>722962067
sandbox/lifesime games are boring. that's why Noita, despite being an autism game, is still better

>>722936364
new /v/ banner?

>>722962248
>punishes you
just kill him. if you're actively breaking out of the mountain, you should be able to easily create something that can blow him up

>>722945061
Explosion immunity goes a long way towards unclenching your butthole. If you don't find it, you could always try crafting your own explosion absorption perk

So autism means i am dedicated, knowledgeable and tenacious. Well thank you for the compliment.

>>722936364
who cares? i still play ragnarok online 21 years later and maplestory 18 years later on occasion and my favorite game is megaman x2. just bee urself retard

>>722945778
I liked doing the quests hidden throughout the world and building up my achievement pillars. The Sun Quest was really fun the achieve

>>722963075
>dynamite
I feel like a lot of already garbage spells were made limited just to justify Unlimited Spells' existence.

>>722963373
But I love firebolt

>>722963373
It balances the early game fairly well and forces you to be resourceful if you're ever gonna make it anywhere

>>722936364
I really hope it's a bait post

nobody ever talks about Qud on /v/

>>722936282
This. I would probably get diagnosed with autism if I got screened for it but I'm normie-passing and don't act like an autist. Noita isn't that bad if you put effort into learning how to build wands, you just have to have the desire to learn and experiment.
>unlock them
Daily runs have everything unlocked by default, if that's something you care about. But you can only play the daily once per day (i think).

It's on sale for $8. What are you waiting for, anon?

>>722950815
Thanks for the reply. Machinegun and birthday gift wands were the only two types of wands i ended up making because they worked, i tried summoning water clouds and then electrocuting the wet fools but quickly realized that such combos weren't going to be practical so what's the point of all the spells?
Maybe if my access to spells was severely limited i would have to make due with whichever spell i stumble upon. Otherwise i get a plasma cross fairly early, put it inside a trigger bolt and it destroys everything.
Should i try to get orbs to go into NG+ for tougher enemies? Do i need to gather the orbs everytime?

>>722963291 I'm not into achievements at all, once again Noita escapes my grasp.

>>722962007
What's this, the fucking trailer world?

>>722962007
kek
Godspeed King.

>>722964027
>have the desire to learn and experiment
autism

>>722936364
>I wanna be part of the smart gamers here
golden bait

>>722964185
Should i try to get orbs to go into NG+ for tougher enemies?
Orbs are just for unlocking spells or health upgrades and the different endings.
>Do i need to gather the orbs everytime?
Depends what you want to do. They are free health ups but make the final boss harder.
If you want to challenge yourself to make better wands try fighting the side bosses or doing an 11+ orb run.

>>722964185
>Should i try to get orbs to go into NG+ for tougher enemies? Do i need to gather the orbs everytime?
No and no. The best way to get more unique stuff is through exploring. Exploring areas that might not be your first thought. To start with, maybe just see what's on the surface and what other areas there are. And make sure to not let walls stop you.

>>722936032 (OP)
For something like Noita you have to want to mess around with it, for everything else you really have to push past that initial bump and then if it's almost 2 hours and you're not enjoying the game then just stop.

>>722936032 (OP)
Noita is only as autistic as you make it, game is perfectly beatable without any extensive wand building. That being said it wiped my bestiary for no reason so I will never 100% it.

>>722936032 (OP)
You give up on learning by yourself otherwise you'll take 100+ days of non stop playing to discover obtuse ass mechanics. Just google how to win at the video game you just bought like all of the other autists who pretend otherwise.

>>722964852
I don't know. Wands and spells probably have less stats you need to account for compared to the average MOBA or RPG and those are popular with normies.

Play for more than 30 minutes.
You need to try to do things until you hit walls to know what those walls are so stop being afraid of failure. You need to build familiarity with the game so that you aren't juggling all of the steps you need to do a thing along with HOW you do each of those steps. You need to know what to expect after you complete the thing you're on right now so you can plan ahead for it.
You learn all of these things the same way. Keep playing the game. You will never have breakthroughs or ah-ha moments in games like Factorio if you don't spend time with it. Eventually you hit a point where you can have breakthroughs when you're not actively doing the thing just by thinking about it but this requires familiarity from doing the thing a lot. This is true for a lot more than just vidya.

>>722936032 (OP)
Sometimes it does help to watch a guide.
I found Dominions, for example, far more enjoyable once I actually understood how the fuck some of the mechanics worked.
Granted, I still get run over by hellblessed cannibal jews, but I least I understand more now.

>>722936364
Whats wrong with this? Idgi