Thread 722938853

Valve once again proving they're the only good vidya company.

>>722938853 (OP)
i think its bc its one of the few companies established by gamers that wasnt overran by suits

>>722938853 (OP)
>gabe literally stated he invented valve to combat the idea of gamers getting to borrow/rent HL2 or trade it in when done

valve is on of the core reasons gaming is shit today

>>722939795
No he didn't, Tim.

>>722938853 (OP)
This wasn't the case a decade ago. Damn!

>>722940147
Epic is worse, sure, it gives yhou literal malware from china by default but steam is also guillty via attempting to kill te used games business on PCq

>>722940395
Id software wanted to kill used pc games long before steam existed zoomie

>>722940395
So why are you lying about things Gabe said?

>>722939795
Facts, steam is drmware dogshit, I only use it for steamvr nothing else and I don't let it launch on boot.

>>722938853 (OP)
>only good vidya company
not while the regional pricing is fucked

>>722938853 (OP)
>only good "vidya company"
Ok, they've made what, 1 good game in the last 20 years?
Are they even a vidya company?

>>722940528
>gabe manages to kill the concept
>bro no see ID Software wanted to do this before Gabe so like... it's not Gabe who did it

retarded fucking zoom-zoom
fuck off

>>722940680
Interview back in 2004, anon

>>722940919
Don't get me wrong, the drm is great since it made piracy much fucking easier than relying on cdkey gens but fuck me, are zoomers retarded and have no idea how fucked up valve actually is

like the entire team that made Portal 1, only one of the kids who made the demo project got hired after they all worked on Portal 1 and even then he got let go the moment it was finishjed

>>722939795
can you provide actual evidence of this?

>>722940919
>ability to remap controls and keybinds with any peripheral in any game, no matter how old
>constant discounts
>inbuilt voice chat and text, rendering tranny shit like d*scord useless
>steam workshop
>offers refunds
>clean UI
>offering rain checks for discounts if there's an error
The only thing I miss about physical is the big boxes, everything else was shit.

>>722941180
>Interview back in 2004, anon
Oh yeah? and where is that interview? got a link? article? video?

Of course you don't, because you're a lying faggot.

>>722941464
>ability to remap controls and keybinds with any peripheral in any game, no matter how old
Existed before steam, steam just made it possible for console retards
>constant discounts
For rental licenses, pirate and own it.
>inbuilt voice chat and text, rendering tranny shit like d*scord useless
Still shittier than vent
>steam workshop
Modding for console retards
>offers refunds
Piracy is free
>clean UI
Console retards
>offering rain checks for discounts if there's an error
Piracy is free

>>722941032
Which company does regional pricing correctly today?

>>722941731
>noooooooo you can't have all these features in one program i like installing a bunch of shit instead
You don't even realise how much of a retard you come across as. Cope and seethe you pathetic balding faggot.

>>722941731
>I hate this store because stealing is better

>>722942076
What program, none of the things you listed even require a program except voice chat.
Are you fucking stupid?

>>722942010
random steam keyshops that get legit keys
I would even take games costing the same in every region compared to somehow having swiss tier price while earning 1k€ per month

>>722941215
We were never able to rent PC games. and CD keys have existed since before the DOS days. He's full of it.

>>722942113
Stealing IS better, if you gave a shit about supporting the devs you wouldn't buy shit on sale. You're just doing it to inflate your e-profile's e-penis score.

>>722942236
You're making stuff up. No key shop saves you money compared to just buying on Steam during a sale.

>>722942338
Yeah I'm gonna wait 11 months to play a game because I'm fucking stoooopid.

>>722942227
Most controllers will not work with PC games before 2007. With steam, they all do.
>>722942303
I dunno what made jeets and latin americans so bold as to just outright announce what they are like this guy, but it's really annoying. cancer.

>>722942338
I literally bought digimon for 58$ on a keyshop, while buying it from steam would cost me 81$

>>722942303
if you gave a shit about supporting the devs you wouldn't STEAL it you fucking idiot, at least a sale gets them some amount of money

>>722942236
The price is only a problem if you're buying AAA or too impatient to wait for a sale on one of a dozen sites. Besides zoomers and the rare treat, when does an adult buy AAA?

>>722938853 (OP)
You do know thats literally normal practice in europe? Sorry muttoids dont understand consumer rights.

>>722942415
>Most controllers will not work with PC games before 2007. With steam, they all do.
xpadder
>I dunno what made jeets and latin americans so bold as to just outright announce what they are like this guy, but it's really annoying. cancer.
You're refusing to pay for games until they're 80% off and pretending it you're doing to support the developer, you're the status queen jeet here.
And you have the audacity to look down on other people for it? Disgusting trash.

>>722942527
>The price is only a problem if you're buying AAA
nah, suggested regional pricing by steam is just fucked because they never update currency exchange
average indie fag will just follow that instead of looking at 50 different countries if price is fair

>>722942462
I don't, neither do you you just pretend to, but when their game comes out you think "hmm, steam has already devalued all games to 1/10th their value, I'll just wait for SALES"

>>722942682
>xpadder
So you DO need more programs? thanks for conceding. christ you're a fucking dipshit.

>>722942879
Ok, you got me, 2 pieces of software replace steam, which takes up 50x as much ram, 100x as much network power, and 500x as much cuckism because only a faggot would use it.

>>722940395
digital games cannot be resold because if they could no one would ever buy new

>>722942859
>I don't give a fuck about devs
>Neither do you since you give them money!!!
Actual fucking retard

>>722942682
>You're refusing to pay for games until they're 80% off and pretending it you're doing to support the developer
where the fuck did I say that you stupid third worlder?

>>722943062
Prove me wrong, when's the last time you bought a full price steam game that didn't cost $10 at launch. Should be easy to tell right such a "great ui"

>>722942859
I buy games that I like from devs that I like, if a dev I don't like releases a game I might be interested in - I don't buy it, I don't even pirate it. I don't give it the time of day.

kill yourself.

>>722943170
Why would you, it would taint the fedora-tipping image you've cultivated with your steam collection.

>>722943140
Wow you're right, that was easy! Thanks to the great UI.

>>722943295
>fantasy life
>clair
lmao

>>722943295
You actually paid for this shit?
Alright my opinion just turned 180 degrees on this shit.
A fool and his money are quickly parted.

>>722943354
>>722943454
>gets proven wrong, 2 full priced games bought within a few days of their release
>heh, well I don't like those games
good one.

>>722943548
No you got me anon, be proud.
I always thought steamfags were poor always.
I didn't realize they had jobs, made money, and then squandered it on full price licenses to play single player games, and THEN became poor.

>>722939795
>gaben is so strong he invented the company that made half life 1 to combat gamers getting to rent half life 2

steamies not dicksucking valve every 2 seconds challenge (impossible)

>>722943714
>squandered it
You must be one broke motherfucker if you think video games are some kind of big investment. Stop talking to me, this argument is stale now.

If you're a real 4channers, you should hate steam.

>>722943824
Video games are a big investment. Sure not as big as a house or a car, but definitely motorcycle-tier.

>>722940919
>steamvr
I think the entirety of your post is complete ass, and virtual desktop is infinitely better than steamvr.

>>722943870
go back

>>722943957
I literally cannot run a vr headset without steamvr, it is the drivers ever since microsoft gave up and decided to kill WMR

>>722938853 (OP)
I will never forgive steam for killing off physical media in PC.

>>722938996
>>722943728
It’s literally run by people in suits, the owner was once a Microsoft employee. Everyone else is hiding their IDs like suit people do when working and have the work go to 3rd parties. Valve never made a game, they never had developers and they didn’t create Steam.

>>722944147
They were planning on doing it with consoles too and looked at producing a console for Microsoft (a locked down PC basically) bfore the 360 was a thing and it was to be online only

>Buy Half-Life
>Play Half-Life's multiplayer for years
>Suddenly one day Steam comes out
>Its like 2gb which is undownloadable on dial-up
>Half-Life effectively stolen from me
Fuck Valve and fuck the mindless golems who worship them.

Steam is the reason that games are $80 now

>>722944576
How so?

>>722943948
Lol. My wife's newest camera lens cost more than my gaming PC. Video games are a cheap hobby.

>>722939795
WRONG !
picrel is why he created it

>>722943948
Compared to other hobbies, absolutely not.

>>722944992
Photography is a retard hobby and you could have bought the same lens from china for 1/10th the price. All auto-lenses are complete dogshit for actual photography anyway
t. bought an xt4 during covid, biggest waste of fucking money in my life

>>722941032
>I live in a turd world country so gibsmedat

>>722938853 (OP)
but at the end of the day, still a company

>>722945102
I'd say once a hobby crosses the $5000 threshold it's expensive. And that's 1 laptop in pc gaming.
Then what, another 1k in sound shit, 1k in monitors, 1k in peripherals.
Sure, you can game for $40 with a miyoo or free with just a phone, but as an actual mainline hobby it's as expensive as buying a motorcycle and all the gear.

>>722945460
>you need to spend 8000 dollars on a pc
What the fuck are you talking about? Do you live in a third world shithole with a worthless currency so the price of everything is inflated?

>>722945460
>1k in sound shit, 1k in monitors, 1k in peripherals

>>722944147
Kill yourself tranny.

>>722945460
5k pc and 1k monitor nets you the best of the fucking best you dumb nigger
you can build a pc that ties a ps5 pro for the same price if you want to stoop that low

>>722945578
One 5090 costs almost $3000 here, inb4 3060 is good enough I don't want to hear it, 4k or go back to phone games.
>>722945646
How am I wrong, even the cheapest dac stack will set you back $400, headphones another $300 for cheap decent shit. Sure you can game on your mom's left over iphone buds but who the fuck would do that?
>>722945976
1k monitor is pretty good, but again that's just mid level compared to $2000 vr goggles and a $3000 g9.

>>722946083
lol you don't need any of that shit

>>722946362
you're engaging with an unemployed retard most likely, just thought I would let you know.

>>722946362
Need is subjective, I don't need video games at all, but I'm also not poor and want to enjoy my hobbies to the fullest. If you don't there's always emulators for phones.

>>722946415
I took a sick day, got too drunk at a company party at a barcade yesterday and played dance dance revolution until my 35 year old spine turned to jello.

>>722946416
>you either need to spend 8000 dollars on absolute high end or just emulate on a phone
>you CANNOT do anything else
What kind of autism do you have?

>>722946083
vr has no games and some unicorn 1440p 32:9 monitor is a fucking retarded purchase
neither of those is

>>722946831
>>722946083
vr has no games and some unicorn 1440p 32:9 monitor is a fucking retarded purchase
neither of those is valid for a comparison to other hobbies and you're still spending less on those than a regular hobby

>>722946831
The current g9 is 4kx4k resolution, double 4k.
Also VR has games, just not many. Sub $500 you're just gonna get some 1440p 120hz slop.
>>722946812
If you're just playing video games because you're poor and it's cheap it's not a hobby, it's an escape mechanism. Get help anon, or better yet get a fucking job and buy some decent shit.

>>722946985
>that's right goy, you need to buy a 5090 or else you're poor
Nice try jensen.

>>722946505
>4090 laptop
hallmark of a fucking retard if i've ever seen one
an equivalent desktop costs less than $1000

>>722946505
>>722946985
>yeah bro you NEED to get the best thing anything less in unacceptable
>plays on a fucking laptop

>>722946981
>and you're still spending less on those than a regular hobby
I disagree.
Normal hobbies usually cost under $1000. Knitting, bird watching, hiking, phone gaming, brainrot.
Expensive hobbies usually under $10000. Wood working, metal working, gaming, basic motorcycle riding, fixing up a shitty car, photography.

If you have over $10000 to spend on hobbies it's a luxury hobby.
Fancy cars that server no street purpose, racing motorcycles, boats, planes, etc.

I've probably spent more than $10000 on gaming in the last 30 years, but not in the last 10 years, so I still consider it to be expensive.

>>722945460
>I'd say once a hobby crosses the $5000 threshold it's expensive.
anything that costs more than 1 minimum wage is expensive
>>722946083
>$300 for a pair of headphones
>when mdr-7506/mdrv6 retails for $100
lol

>>722947101
POOOR
>>722947149
>>722947239
I have a desktop I'm just on my laptop?
Here's it's GPU as proof.
I can already run cyberpunk at 4k with solid settings why do I need a desktop 5090?

>autists engaging with ragebait
lmao

>>722947369
>mdr-7506
Not bad, I used to have ATH-M50s myself. But the AKG-k712s blow that shit out of the water. Open back headphones are mandatory for good soundstage.
And that's not even getting into the good shit, the planar magentic shit, where the cheapest chinkshit costs $700

>>722947546
Get a fucking buy some decent shit instead of playing on a garbage laptop. Fucking poorfags should just go back to phones.

>>722947546
you paid thousands for the equivalent of a system with a desktop 4070 in it
if you spent that on a desktop it would have twice the performance and it wouldn't throttle and sound like a jet engine

>>722947696
>Fucking poorfags should just go back to phones.
I agree, hence why steam shouldn't need to exist, it only panders to the poorfag denominator.
Also the 4090 is about as powerful as a 3070ti or 4070 desktop.
>>722947734
But it also wouldn't be portable, and I game 90% of the time at a friend's place, I know, a foreign concept on /v/, someone with a job and friends. On that note it's past his shift so I'm gonna head out. Stay salty poorfagsteamfags.

>>722939795
Yet family sharing exists. How curious!

>>722940395
They basically did kill the used games market but they also propagated heavy sales to the point where you can get basically any game for super cheap if you wait long enough.

>>722947843
>n-no i could totally buy something better than a 4070
>i just dont because uh...i dont feel like it
Get a job and move out of your mother's basement.

>>722942462
you can always buy it afterwards if you think the devs deserve it

>>722947843
>and I game 90% of the time at a friend's place
All of your other posts have been complete dogshit, but this is kino is true.

>>722942859
having sales just means the sale price becomes the normal one and the non-sale price gets increased

>>722947843
> I game 90% of the time at a friend's place
could've just said you're homeless or nonwhite

>>722948018
I'm not wrong, 50 series is trash and it's not like there's a new cyberpunk around the corner, and I can't play cyberpunk since they ruined it with 2.0 anyway so I just play deus ex in 4k with raytracing instead and my gpu is fine for that.

>>722948278
>actually my 4070 is good enough
Yeah, if you're too poor for a 5090. Get a phone instead.

>>722948268
Look at my hand you dumb nigger>>722947546
>>722948263
So it helps inflation, got it.
>>722948098
<3
We hang around in his garage and his grandmother yells at us for being loud at 2am, it's actually kinda kino.

>>722948401
The worst part is you're right and I'm probably going to pull the trigger and buy that 5090 laptop while I'm bored at work one day.

>>722948416
>We hang around in his garage and his grandmother yells at us for being loud at 2am, it's actually kinda kino.
That's awesome, all my friends became normal and we only really game together through disc. Trying to organize a lan party in the near future.

>>722948416
>in his garage and his grandmother yells at us for being loud at 2am
A manchild with a manchild friend that leeches off of his elderly, dying grandma and wakes her up at 2am. pathetic.

>>722948416
oh so you're white trash?
normal people have a work routine and they don't spend enough time over at their friends houses to justify overspending on a shitty laptop

>>722948524
A lot of my friends too, I'm just glad I met my bro in college, he has a constant cycle of friends coming by the garage so I'm not stuck in eternal hikki hell like the old days anymore.
>>722948552
We both work, we both pay rent, and taxes, get fucked nonwhite.
>>722948692
I do have a work routine, his house is just between my house and my work so why not stop by for 7 hours a night?

>>722948757
this is fucking hoodrat shit

>>722943948
If you'd like to actually be poor, learn to play an instrument beyond intermediate level. Pro-level and custom shop shit basically starts at decent used car prices.

>>722948973
I always laugh when gamers say their hobby is expensive. My buddy has to blow thousands annually on his snow mobile, that doesn't even count his big fuckin diesel that he needs to haul all this shit.

>>722948552
>noooooooooooo you have to be a big boy and buy your own place!
>you can't just help your elders and invest in what you'll probably inherit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hahahaha, your parents hate you nigga

>>722945460
Are you a retarded person?
You can buy a gaming PC that will play every modern game at decent quality for like 800 bucks. You can buy peripherals for 60 bucks. You can buy 2 good monitors for 300 bucks. You can buy a decent pair of headphones or speakers for 100 bucks.
If you are stupid enough to buy the absolute most expensive bullshit that you cant even fucking use, then yeah, I guess its comparable to more expensive hobbies. But what youre suggesting is like someone going out to buy a brand new ducati as their first motorcycle and then getting taken for a ride thats almost criminal by the accessories guy on the way out. If someone does that, theyre a fucking retard.

>>722949705
>2 monitors for $300
I'd much rather get a single 4k display and split it into 4 1920x1080 displays

>>722949260
none of this has anything to do with playing with childrens toys and waking elderly people up with it at 2am.

>>722951951
I'm not the one who made the assumption anyone was being leeched off, maybe try reading the entire post.

>>722939795
You don't seem to recognize that drm would be 100x more draconian without Valve. Things like single use installation keys and whatever bullshit you could possibly imagine. Steam is the compromise.

Just tell your favorite game company to release a physical version of the game so you can sell it. Oh wait every fuckin game is 100+GB now. Eventually you'll need four fucking bluerays to hold a single game 5 years from now.

MY ENTIRE ASS.

Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.