Thread 722946260

>you now remember the cringegasm on /v/ when the trailer came out
>you now remember how it went from 100 to 0 in less then 24 hours post release
>you know remember it came out last year and has been COMPLETELY forgotten until I made you remember it

are we looking at the biggest flop of modern videogame history?

>>722946260 (OP)
>COMPLETELY forgotten
You are making multiple threads about it every week bro. Bit ironic isn't it

>>722946260 (OP)
Its not a flop because it made its money its just an utter disappointment.
Nothing legitimately beats Concord in terms of gaming flops.

This piece of shit was so bad it managed to kill the regular DD1 threads.

>>722946685
post the screencap of /v/ on the trailer announcement I beg you

KC:D, Dragons Dogma, Baldurs Gate, God of War, is there any other Chud Jank Kino for them to desecrate?

>>722946807
Its because deep down we know that even if we were lucky enough to get a Dragon's Dogma III, it'd be bogged down and ruined by all of the "improvements" introduced in Dragon's Dogma II.
The series is dead. It pains me to say that, but its the truth. The community will never be the same, because going forward we'll always be split into two camps: the people who liked Dragon's Dogma II and the people who disliked it.

>>722946260 (OP)
>you know remember
I also now remember how desperately you tried to lie about the game during the release period as well, like pretending that selling DLC was something new to the franchise and not present since the very first version of Dragon's Dogma.

>>722946260 (OP)
Remember that OP is a discord tranny that lets DD2 live rent free in xir head daily

>>722946969
>KC:D
2 was fun and comfy. I don't know why people made the homosexual romance option such a big deal. I didn't see anyone complaining about Zeveran in Dragon's Age or Kadain in Mass Effect. Shit was optional so straight players like you and I will never see it.
>Baldurs Gate
Was legit a great game. I got bored in Act 3, but Act 1 and Act 2 blew me away, and made me feel like a kid again because of the sheer amount of choice and player interactivity that the game offered. The only "bad" thing that stuck out to me was prepatched Gale, who legitimately came across as a sex pest.
>God of War,
Gets too much hate here imo. I liked Krato's evolution as a character, and I liked the new combat.

>>722946807
>Tranimefag has a shit opinion
Wow what a surprise

>>722946260 (OP)
go woke go bankrupt, they took away the lolis and destroyed the soul of the game, this game will continue to be hated, and i will be relentless in my efforts to revile nucapcom

>>722947337
Seethe forever knowing that DD2 is rancid garbage and now you don't even have threads for the first game to go back to.

>>722946807
I've actually seen DD1 threads since so it's actually so bad that people talk about DD1 instead of letting the series fucking die like The Witcher or MGS.

>>722946807
>>722947608
>and now you don't even have threads for the first game
there's a DD1 thread up right now, was made before this one

>>722947180
How fucking pathetic does someone have to be to do this

>>722947362
Public execution for subhuman pedos like you

I played the game when it came out, had a fucking BLAST and I moved on to play other shit.
Why is this autismo still spamming this shit? I don't think anyone cares anymore, I legit do not understand this behavior. Isn't the game like 2 years old by now?

>>722946260 (OP)
All I remember was the game including e-celeb shit and that's all I had to know to know it was not worth my time.

>>722947280
>I don't know why people made the homosexual romance option such a big deal.
I don't know either because it paled in comparison to other issues of the game. Like trying to portray fucking GYPSIES in a positive light.

>>722946260 (OP)
You now reminded me that i had a lot of fun with this game just like DD1.

I don't understand why some people hate 2? It's just 1 but more

post the moment you knew this game is going to be bad

>>722951086
>Like trying to portray fucking GYPSIES in a positive light
dude the gypsy chief is the biggest asshole in the game lmao

>>722947180
>>722947806
What the fuck is wrong with these people?

>>722951316
>It's just 1 but more
>1 but more
>more
go fuck yourself

>>722946260 (OP)
Might be the most disappointing game I've played.

>>722946685
>>722946763
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>>722947180
>>722947806
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>>722951361
>you now manually remember how DD2 flopped
>you now remember how wilds flopped
>you are realizing your loyalty to capcom was wasted
lol!

Dragon's Dogshit: Deuce

>>722951316
Generally just worse to play overall. Beaten both and I would gladly open up 1 again, 2 makes you feel like the weakest retard alive.

>>722951408
Yee it certainly takes that slot for me.
>>722951316
Feels more like 1 but less

>>722946260 (OP)
>main talking point of DD1 was "it could be so great with more budget and time"
>sequel announced, hype ensues, reasonably
>so much new stuff to hype people up, this is going to be amazing
>game comes out
>the game comes under flak for MTX issues, which is both good and a shame because fuck Capcom mandating they be in the game (why didn't RE4make get that same flak)
>it's a weird blend of auteur (shit) gameplay decisions and optimization issues
>it's also attempting a meta take on story, narrative and gameplay decisions

DD2 is going to be praised later on in life, of that I'm certain. But it's a perfect poster child of modern developer negligence to make a good game as well as the unkempt hype of a fanbase that was dashed. But it was the example warning of the RE engines flaws on full display, till the more popular series showcased the flaws of the engine and Capcoms mentality.

>>722946260 (OP)
I love DD2 its a blast.

They literally made a sticky for DD2's announcement and it came out and killed the series again. Two games, two deaths. Wew.

See you all in another 12 years for the third death.

>>722951725
>game so bad the director was fired and is now working for a mobage studio
>praised
never ever

>>722951832
Well he did publicly lie his ass off in the interviews about the game. Capcom must've been so embarrassed.

no bitterblack no buy

>>722951316
People overhyped it to hell and back. Itsuno had to make that entire thing from scratch on the RE engine. Just because Capcom wanted it to use as test for MH Wilds. And Itsuno still managed to deliver it. People also started shitting the frame drops, even if it only happened on the cities, were you'll spend 5% of your game time. There's also people shitting on the lack of hybrid classes because they never realized that hybrids not only made the other classes obsolete (like assassin) but were just borrowing and combining moveset from different ones. Warfarer even let you build your on hybrid, but they never played long enought to unlock it.

People also shat on the story, even if it was the perfect way to execute a DD2 story. We know that the dragon isn't the big deal. We knew that the dramas of the world weren't important and we knew someone else was pulling strings. Se we reach the end and instead of a tired god, we find one that loves his job and pretty much moves the world as he pleases (and you see him doing it). Itsuno was 100% right when he said in an interview that it wasn't a game for everybody and we can clearly see why. At the end, DD2 left me with the same feelings as DD1, the feeling of wanting more DD. But now, with him gone, unless a really good jap that understand DD was left in charge, i rather not get a new one. To bad that Itsuno's new game is cyberpunk shit. I hate cyberpunk shit...

>>722951821
itsuno isn't even working with capcom anymore and i don't think he's going to do that a third time with them either

FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
I'LL NEVER NOT BE MAD ABOUT HOW THIS GAME TURNED OUT TO BE I EVEN TOOK A FEW DAYS OFF WORK TO PLAY IT DURING RELEASE
>hey anon how was the game said the coworker wagie upon returning
>mfw

Evey DD2 thread is one diehard samefagging complaining about trannies and how the game is actually not shit, and everyone ignores them

>>722946260 (OP)
>you know remember it came out last year and has been COMPLETELY forgotten until I made you remember it
False, I was thinking of starting a modded run just earlier today

>>722951832
It's not because I think the game is grand or anything. But I've already seen videos talking about the immersive qualities and narrative links between dragonsplague and the story and how the endgame is an amazing subversion of sequels.

>>722946260 (OP)
Blast was had.
Capcom is stupid for cancelling the DLC.

>>722951316
It's 1 but less and worse

>>722951950
By 'people' you mean 'Itsuno' he was the one getting everyone hyped up by just straight up lying about shit that isn't in the game.

>>722952102
>stupid
they knew it was a failure, so why bother?

>>722952102
Capcom is stupid for not investing in a flop?

>>722952102
They can't keep losing money on this shit they already did that twice now.

The game was pretty much everything i ever wanted out of DD2, until near the end where you see it's lacking some proper end game. Nothing a Dark Arisen type expansion wouldn't fix. It sucks that it's not going to happen.
All and all, there are worse thing in life than becoming disappointed after 60 hours of pure, unfiltered kino. .

>>722951316
Let's point the issue here: REngine is SHIT for open world, SHIT.
It fucked DD2 and MHW

>>722951950
>purposefully tank a highly anticipated project to beta test technology for a more popular series
>still manage to release a buggy unoptimized shitpile that people quickly lost interest in almost as fast as DD (1.1m players peak dropping to 22k as of now)
Bravo Capcom. It's a miracle DMC5 was as good as it was, even if it clearly could have been better.

>>722946260 (OP)
>you know remember it
good morning saar

People got hyped because Itsuno literally said "it was exactly how I wanted DD1 to be if i weren't rushed and had the budget I needed"
then it came out and was even more rushed and unfinished than DD1.

>>722946969
>DD2
>Stalker 2
>KCD2
>all within a single fucking year
You have no idea how much this hurt me.

>>722952441
I enjoyed Stalker 2, maybe DD2 broke me and I really wasn't expecting much out of it. I never pre-ordered anything after DD2, it was that disappointing and I don't touch anything Crapcom from now on.

>>722952535
I know people are gonna make fun of you for pre-ordering, but DD2 was one of the only games I've ever pre-ordered.

>>722952374
yeah, it's wild the cat people let the arisen just walk up to their holy leader and talk to her while she's doing her daily shit
i would have accepted being invisible walled and guards being like "stinky arisen like you suck, get gone"

>>722952648
I don't pre-order shit that much as well, but DD2 was THE exception. I can't stress how much I had anticipated it, first there was no pre-load, then it ran like shit, then it was just a barren world with the same enemies and overall a game with lots of ideas that didn't have proper direction to tie everything together.

>>722947180
DD2 and Wilds*

>>722952102
Because the game sucked ass, bombed, and was likely never seen by Capcom as worth putting more effort into when they have more popular series like mh and sf

>>722952098
single digit IQ post. seek help little timmy

>DD1fags inadvertently astroturf the game on /v/ making newfags think they need to love it to fit in with the THOUSANDS (see: like 2 dozen people spamming the game for a decade) of le epic 4channel /v/ gamers
>DD1 """"""fanbase""""" exponentially grows like a feedback loop of newfags seeing newfags pretending to like the game to fit in and following suit
>Mods stickying the DD2 announcement thread sends that shit into overdrive, poser newfags are whipped into a frenzy
>Game releases
>Game is shit
>"""""Fanbase""""" disappears instantly
>Real fanbase is too ashamed to show their faces anymore, when they do the thread is immediately derailed by DD2 talk from people they accidentally dragged into their realm by simply talking about their favorite game
DD2 is the ultimate cautionary tale.

Can an overhaul/expansion like DA save DD2 or is it doomed?

>>722952741
>the elf area is a big nothing burger
>the thief area is a big nothing burger
>getting new vocations is just finding one person on a building and giving up some booze to another, extremely quick, 0 lore, 0 thought
>the cat people are underwhelming
>the prison area doesn't care if you come back
>the best thing they added was ragdoll physics which should just be a standard thing in every game
>all i remember from DD2 is a cyclops slipping on an icecube to his death and being ogre punched into a wall

>>722946260 (OP)
Yeah it was the last time we were genuinely excited for something
Not we just hate everything or pretend we hate to bait people into replying,I hate it

>>722946260 (OP)
Its been forgotton because Capcom hasnt done jackshit with it TO expand on it. It was a pretty fantastic game but it just fell into the same hole designwise that DD1 suffered from: They didnt add ENOUGH.

There were some fantastic set pieces and enemies with cool quirks like the Medusa,Sphinx and Ogre but they could add more. Vocations were another thing the game did not add enough which DLC could have taken care of since people definitely wouldve liked and bought a Katana,Lance,Fist and Spellsword class. A big one too is that theres no repeatable dungeon gaunlet like BBI

>>722952207
>>722952264
>>722952306
You guys look like worthless monkies when you cant even articulate what you mean.

>>722953070
The whole game needs to be built from the ground, change the storyline, enemies, progression, everything. It's just too much work and I don't think Crapcom wants to bother by spending any cash on it.

>>722952535
>I enjoyed Stalker 2
Fucking how? I tried to but it got worse the more I played.

>>722953070
An expansion won't fix the awful """"""""""dungeon""""""""""" design. Enjoy exploring a dozen bland caves that all look like throwaway map markers you'd visit to get a shitty weapon in Elden Ring.

>>722953449
tell me about it
>terrible spawning
>terrible POI's
>terrible weight and travel speed
>terrible economy
>terrible stashes
looking at artefacts in your hand is pretty cool i guess

>cringegasm
huh? Is it cringe to be excited or happy now?

>>722952017
Seething discordfag

>>722953178
They would need to fix the dogshit physics, the nerfed movesets, the insane stagger the player gets inflicted by that puts you in infinites by basic normal enemies, and overall better dungeon design before I would ever think to approach it again

>>722947280
faggot

>>722953634
the console focus was a massive redflag
The whole NFT shit too
How the fuck did you STILL fell for it?

>>722953178
What the hell are monkies

>>722951316
That's true, but people were expecting a finished product this time and yet again crapcom decides to just send it out for short-term gains.
Suck is forever etc.

>>722953070
The main story being unfinished is a definite downside but the world is still great to explore, adding more good equipment to find when exploring, making some enemy locations random, and adding a few more enemy types would go a long way.

>>722953642
Here? Yeah. Zoomers can't engage with anything on the internet unless they protect themselves with 20 layers of irony.

>>722953178
>Its been forgotton because Capcom hasnt done jackshit with it TO expand on it.
This. Nobody jizzed over base game DD. It wasn't until DD:DA came along that the game reached its cult classic status. The only stopping Crapcom from patching up the game and doing the same thing is a good expansion. I don't blame them for not committing to it given the mediocre sales, but I do blame them for the god awful engine that clearly can't do open worlds and shunting the game out the door before it was finished. Fucking crapcom.

>>722953449
>>722953634
I've been playing dogshit stalker mods and shit like Anomaly and I was always hungry for more. I finished it on 1.0 and most of the shit was broken and yeah I agree with all those posts. I was gonna replay the 1.6 version but Hades II came out so I've been busy with it.

>>722953703
>He got filtered by DD2's improved combat
Holy kek how embarrassing

>>722951316
>It's just 1 but more
Why do you 2fags love to lie?

>>722946260 (OP)
OP is absolutely a Shazam tranny but this was maybe my biggest gaming disappointment ever. They basically blew their load on the Sphinc quest as it was the only intetesting part of the game. Shame as it has good bones and cpuld have been something special if it had more time to cook.

>>722951950
>Warfarer even let you build your on hybrid
Warfarer is shit thoughever because dedicating a whole skill-slot just to be able to swap weapons is a huge investment when you only have 4 skills in total.

>>722954153
Feel free to tell me how making the jump 3/4x less high, worse stamina Regen and total overall, removing the ability to cancel from normal attacks to special moves, and overall worse movesets for vocations is better.

>>722954034
>(dies)

>>722951957
>itsuno isn't even working with capcom anymore
Did anybody ever find out why he made the game shit?

>>722953703
>Dogshit physics
I dont even know what you mean.
>Nerfed movesets
Technically that falls under vocations
>insane stagger
Skill issue. Position yourself better or use a different class. I played as a Sorcerer primarily through DD2 and when I got to the other classes stagger rarely happened.
>Better dungeon design
Id say not to waste time and just add more but I didnt have issue with what was there.

>>722954153
>"improved"
>removed animation cancelling
>changed physics to make them slower and more weighty, a stark contrast to 1's swift and fluid movement
>changed FOV for no reason
>changed each vocation so that it could only have one weapon instead of two
>4 skills instead of 6
>You can't even swamp your weapon without having 3 skills (as a wayfarer no less) or pausing the game
>cut literal dozens of skills, spells, and status effects
>cut Mystic Knight
>cut melee combos like Dire Onslaught
>bosses are noticably easier and die way faste
>no UR Dragon equivalent
>no BBI equivalent
>post game is timed for some reason unless you avoid a gameplay mechanic (resting)
>Only one inclination for pawns now and its tied to the fucking voice type
>Perfect Blocking was nerfed, consecutive perfect blocks can no longer knock an enemy down
I dunno why you 2 fags are so dishonest

>>722954424
While i think capcom shortchanged him to put more respurces to world I honestly dont think he actually listened to any feedback on 1 since he literally doubled down on shit like the beloved system that reveals your character was a gay pedophile at the end of the story

>>722953703
>the insane stagger the player gets inflicted by
Mad because bad. Many such cases.

I'm so fucking happy that DD2 took the veil of Itsuno's "genius". Ever since DMC3, he's only made half finished shit that /v/edditors praise because they couldn't get Itsuno and Capcom's microdick out of their mouth. They want to blame it on Capcom for the game failing and just being another case of the poor dev that didn't get to realize his vision. The faggot has been trying to realize his vision for 15+ years now. Yet the /v/edditor attention faggots that love hype threads, make songs for attention and are in the same vein as Snyderfaggots, love Shitsuno.

At a point, you can't keep falling back on "muh poor dev keeps getting fucked over". Either he likes getting dick in his ass or he's an incompetent hack. No inbetween.

>>722946260 (OP)
I've avoided it on every sale too. I don't think they realise how much they have to price cut the game to make me play it. 45% isn't enough. This is greedy Capcom, so that will be a while for that to change.

I still enjoyed it.

>>722954215
my experience:
>start the game having a blast
>get to the sphinx, wow how many more sidequests like this will there be!
>blast levels diminished, went to zero after reaching the last area

>>722954424
i suppose to retaliate against the straitjacket imposed by the new (((investors)))

>>722954343
>removing the ability to cancel from normal attacks to special moves
Skill issue
>and overall worse movesets for vocations is better
Objectively incorrect

>>722954650
Just pirate it, it really isn't worth any money.

>>722954650
I don't think games are priced with you in mind mate.

>>722954712
>>722954215
They fell for the "giant overworld not enough time to fill" it meme. Vermund is pretty much large enough to be a proper base Overworld. Chuck in a bit of Battahl (drag the subtropical areas over) and you're golden. What it needed was significantly more points of interest, enemy variety, quests, and unique bosses.

>>722954827
What the fuck anon, you're talking to the main character of this world. We're but pawns to him.

>>722954215
Same issue as DD. Rushed out the door to bolster the bottom line before an annual shareholder report.

>>722954483
Technically dogshit physics and insane stagger should just be one thing.

The issue with saying position better is that it's largely ignoring the issue. ALL it takes is one hot. A single hit of an entire fight with basic goblins can lead to a death solely off stagger, and it's noticable because you can tell the coded the enemies to stop all they're doing to focus you when you get staggered.

You can say there's ways to get around it, yeah don't get hit, it's true. But from a game design stand point it's fucking awful to have the player feel they need to either play perfectly or have one hit have a domino effect that spans the entire game since EVERY enemy can do this. It leads to players wanting to focus on either ranged combat or good aoe tools because being up close is the worst thing you can ever do in 2.

>>722954902
>Position better
>Use your defense skills
>Get pawns with more defensive inclinations so they stick near you and provide aid quicker
>Boost your knockdown resistance with gear, upgrades, and augments
>Do none of this and then complain about stagger.
Game has a lot of issues but this one is a you problem.

Just download the custom difficulty mod and up your stagger resistance while lowering it for smaller enemies. Now both of you are able to get BTFO'd into a wall or crawl on all fours.

>>722955101
my pawn is too busy finding ways to kill itself

hey anon check out my DD-esque game
>https://tintodev.itch.io/project-goblin
>https://x.com/tinto_gamedev
so far I have combat against goblins (more enemies soon), ledge climbing, combining items, a lamp and some more shit

>>722955101
I did all of this and it didn't amount to much so you might just be insane. Still would be getting put in stagger infinites despite making sure I was always getting armor with solid anti knockdown. I played mostly fighter and tried my best to use the shield skills effectively. AMAZINGLY I did better when I used thief or magic archer that just has moves that melt groups.

It doesn't fix the main issue, it's just ways to skirt around It.

>>722955305
nice

I recall seeing my pawn being kicked in the ribs by two goblins and a cyclops comically smashed them both, leaving the pawn unharmed.

>>722946260 (OP)
The Bannerlord of DD, killed the original too

>>722955305
This looks cool bro, I like how meaty attacking looks

>>722946969
How the hell were the GoW games jank?

>>722951316
>It's just 1 but more
of the same. Seems as though you didn't finish your statement, so I went ahead and took care of that for you. DD2 is too much like DD1 while making head scratching changes to everything that worked in the latter and even offering less.
>every vocation is watered down in the weapons they can wield (like archers can't use daggers)
>this in turn limits the skills each vocation has and hard limits the utility of any one vocation
>by the way each vocation is only allowed four skills at a time as opposed to the 6 most of them had (yes I know Warrior only had 3)
>some vocations had outright worse skills like archers needing to skills to use special arrow types effectively or thief's implication only targeting one enemy instead of multiple
>gold, oil, and rust weapons are gone with nothing to replace them
>as a result you're forced to be in a team of four at all times since now only ice can slow down enemies and only sorcerer can silence
>minotaur and slime are the only two new unique enemies they added while everything else is a variant of goblin, saurians, and harpies just like the first game (yes I know dulahan exists, but it's basically a stronger skeleton)
>only two kinds of dragonkin outside the titular dragon
>treasure chests never reset which means it's pointless to re-explore anywhere
>less weapons and less armor choices on top of how expensive it is to buy gear in general means you're given less options to mix and max to suit your specific needs
>combat feels worse and less responsive like there's lag behind every action
>everything to do with the plot and overall message of the game (on top of somehow feeling fucking rushed)

DD2 does everything a sequel shouldn't. I put over 100 hours in (never beat post game because who cares) and most of that time was me wishing I went back to play DD1 instead... so that's what I've been doing.

>>722955305
Looks good so far but I hope you're not just another pump and dump ideas guy like 90% of /v/'s "developers"

>>722951316
Nice bait.

>have a decade to plan the sequel
>can't come up with a single memorable character or a scene
Just how is this possible? Half of the charm in DD1 comes from NPCs and dialogues.

>>722946260 (OP)

I had fun with the first one but II just didn´t do it for me. Started a playthrough recently and it´s mostly aimless exploration. Like, the game story is weak so exploration is all there is but there are very few quests and places of interest. You really can´t make your game about exploration if it has no places of interest and the encounter variety is limited to the same few monsters over and over.

Eventually i dropped it. Now i need another high fantasy game to fill the void... though i think that´s a common issue with lots of open world games these days.

>>722947180
Doesn't surprise me at all. I don't think I've seen a game anti-shilled by shitposters as hard as DD2. I played DD and Dark Arisen a ton. One of my favorites. I was looking forward to DD2 and kept up with the footage and junk. I played DD2 on release and got exactly what I expected. The game feels just like the first one with slight changes to classes, better graphics, and otherwise the same janky weirdness I expected. But then I went on /v/ and you'd think the game was crashing to desktop all the time or something with how many people were bitching about performance and other trivial junk. I got a few frame drops in the city, but otherwise the game plays beautifully. But any praise for the game was just drowned out by haters and sarcastic I'm-having-a-blast posting. I wish DD2 hadn't been hyped up and just had a smaller release so shitposters ignored it.

>>722955305
Always love seeing your posts.
Solo-dev is good. Do you ever want to add team members? What sort of roles would you want help with? (This is me building up to cold-pitching to get involved in your game)

>>722954028
>This. Nobody jizzed over base game DD.
I hate you niggerfaggots so much.

>>722946969

>KC:D
i was VERY invested in KC:D but the 360° ideological turn was so sudden i let the whole thing go as soon as i learned the leaks are real
>BG
all hope for a proper sequel was lost a long time ago and III is so far removed from the original that i can't get upset about it. i'm only pissed that /v/ is now inhabited by a cohort of BGIII / Wotr apologist turbofaggots who pretend like they're the ultimate authority on RPGs and they're far too numerous to be told to fuck off
>Dragons Dogma
this one does hurt because DDII while not exactly horrible, it does far too little and generated too little interest so DD is practically over

>>722955305
But where are the waifus?

It was absolutely cringe, anyone denying this is a faggot. The gay little jannies pinning a thread for it was an extremely bad omen for this game

>>722954034
I've played a bunch of Stalker mods and while some sucked, that didn't make me enjoy Stalker 2. Right now I'm just waiting for SoC update 2.0.

>>722954521
2 is the biggest disappointment ever for me, but it has a lot of fantastic combat mechanics that were a straight improvement on 1. In fact, if they released a giant DLC of 1 that added those mechanics in I'd just never play another game.

>>722946260 (OP)
It felt like a sequel you would expect 2-3 years after the first game came out, not 13. Still enjoyed it, though.

>>722955305
This but Co op is my goddamn dream game.

>>722955354
>>722955415
thanks anons
>>722955626
been working on it for 9 months, and about to give birth to a demo lol
this is not a small project but my actual dream game, so if drop this then it's over for me. I'm quite motivated, specially since I'm reaching the point where all I have to do is create levels, items and enemies, which I think is the fun part.
>>722955735
>Do you ever want to add team members?
not for now. Plan is to release a demo and use that to gauge interest in the game. If interest is high, I'd consider adding maybe a musician or some kind of visual artist to help me coming up with designs. Honestly I could use help with anything, but right now I don't want to commit to anyone
>>722955768
>waifus
still too early for that lmao, but I have a few of them planned
>the queen you have to rescue. Probably redhead with pale skin, love that type
>the chief captain of a squad sent by the church to investigate the area where the game takes place. Think of a battle maiden of sorts, black hair, hime cut, nice cleavage with tights like Jihl Nabaat or the censored design for Mythra.
>a cute priest under the command of the chief captain. Blonde, huge tits. Also probably a HUGE skirt like the one of Scarlett from Unicorn Overlord

>>722954712
Ya that sums it up nicely

>>722954712
the way the lied about "being more insteresting monsters like that!" hurt me a lot. Imo the sphinx is the best part of the game, felt really fresh to have some sidequests actually forcing to you think instead of just following directions like 99% of games

>>722946260 (OP)
>sequel to the most 6/10 AJRPG of all time turns out to be the most 6/10 AJRPG sequel of all time
Holy crackers

>>722955531
That was an accident, sorry. I couldnt play 2016 because of all the cutscense but I recently saw that there's a chipmunk with dissociative identity disorder voiced by Prozd with an hour of dialogue in ragnarok, so im angry at it again.

>>722957256
that's nuts!

>>722946969
We'll see when Code Vein 2 comes out

>>722946260 (OP)
>it's somehow the fans fault that a developer completely under delivered

>>722955679
Arisen tis a ladder

why the fuck did they remove vocations and add shitty new ones? why not use some from the online game?

>>722946260 (OP)
kys discord troon

>>722958767
Itsuno clearly doesn't like one size fits all vocations, hence why they were removed or split up, and what more difference between vocations (why the more unique MS replaced MK).
>What about Warfarer
An extremely nerfed vocation that lacks the skills to really fill the role of the old hybrids and yellow vocations.

>>722959256
I like the idea of each Vocation having their own dedicated weapon, but they just needed to add more.

dragon's bumpma

>>722958767
>Mystic Spearhand is bad!
Kill yourself contrarian

>>722955305
looks good, when the gobs have low hp 25% their eyes are red and do 2x damage

>>722953306
>>722953472
>An expansion won't fix the awful """"""""""dungeon""""""""""" design
fixed by adding a big ass bitterblack isle
>The whole game needs to be built from the ground, change the storyline, enemies, progression, everything
DA changed none of this in the main game and it's the game everyone wanted DD2 to be

>>722953449
The war is the best thing that happened to that company. Free marketing.

>>722959256
Warfarer feels so wrong to me, I love how specialized you felt in the first game. Assassin was a jack of all trades but it still had weaknesses for your party to make up for.

>>722961835
can not be done, the brains left capcom and the remain developers have very low moral

>>722946807
Same thing happened with Yakuza 8, used to be we had Yakuza threads every day on /v/, Y8 comes out, suddenly it's rare as fuck to see a Yakuza thread

>>722962051
>I love how specialized you felt in the first game
What does that even mean?

>>722946260 (OP)
>are we looking at the biggest flop of modern videogame history?

No, it's not in the top 10. Dragons dogma didn't sell any copies and DD2 wasn't expected to either.

>>722955305
If I were you I'd honestly maintain this aesthetic all the way through

Graphics are overrated. t. Began gaming before anyone else on /v/

Why the fuck does a fucking single player game have 1 save file

>>722962337
What do you think it means

>>722963043
remember when this piece of shit game didn't even have a "new game" option? What a fucking disappointment

>>722963043
Why the fuck is dragons dogma a single player game that wasn't on PC for years when it's a PC coop multiplayer game

Everything about the product always felt weird and wrong with me. When I finally played it I remember just grimacing at some stupid fucking quest at the beginning where a guy runs around really fast. It showed me that the reason a lot of people love the game is pandering Japanese ness of it I think. But I owned a TurboGrafx 16 I don't need to be pandered to japanesely. I bought pull stay.

>>722963213
>remember when this piece of shit game didn't even have a "new game" option?
I had actually forgotten this, so thanks for making me mad.

>>722963282
erm actually it's the pc engine sweaty!

>>722951316
It's literally 1 but less, costs more and runs worse

For me though "but less" doesn't convey the true decline in soulful characterisation and dialogue.

>>722946807
Fuck.

>>722946260 (OP)
no loli no sale

I can't believe this happened. The cursed timeline.

my problem with DD2 is how they barely added new enemies, DD1 had more enemies even if they're reskins like the hellhounds or if you wanna look at Dark Arisen, the Silver/Gold Knights

I was looking forward to it and followed dev stuff but a massive red flag was raised when they showed off the character creator and you couldn't make lolis anymore
immediately lost all hype at that moment, and my gut was correct

>>722946260 (OP)
>the cringegasm
Why do /v/edditors hate video games so much?
The very concept of someone enjoying something and being excited drives them to frothing rage

>>722964010
i thought the game was as good as the first

>>722965113
You think a lot of things anon. Stop doing that

Is dark arisen good?
Never played DD

DD2 is better than monhun wilds

my biggest complaint about dd2 is that they removed features from classes
where the fuck did ranger and MA's daggers go? why is MA locked in the last area of the game?
why does mystic spear get a spammable party-wide invulnerability?

the vocation design in DD2 is a fucking trash fire embarrassment compared to the extremely utilitarian simplicity of the first game
i genuinely have no idea how they defecated in the formula so excessively and somehow thought it to be good

>>722965674
>the vocation design in DD2 is a fucking trash fire embarrassment compared to the extremely utilitarian simplicity of the first game
Lmao almost every class in DD1 has some stupid bullshit you just spam because it’s better than everything else
>magic cannon
>dragon maw
>charged holy bolts
>jump attack

>>722965341
That's not a high bar, anon.

>>722965821
>classes had defining traits

>>722965893
>”defining traits”
>a single overpowered skill that makes everything else pointless

>>722965341
the expansions will save both games. we'll get a dark arisen 2 right?

>>722946260 (OP)
>have a good template and ten years to work on a decent sequel
>disregard the shit people actually liked from Dark Arisen completely and make the same game as 1 except worse
should've been a slam dunk for Itsuno honestly and I'm seriously not sure how they fucked it up

>>722965956
>ranger/strider can do explosive arrow memes
>MA can do magic cannon or shield parry shotguns
>warrior can do jumpbonk or meaty charge gameplay
>fighter has that gouge climbing attack and full moon slash
>assassin has whatever the fuck you want
>sorcerer can go full chargebolt spam or just glicor the fuck out of everything
>mage can be built offensive, supportive or preferably hybrid with no objectively correct setup

>>>magic archer has flaming kamikaze daggers and death arrows and super shotgun riccochet lasers and dash sprints and holy shit what the fuck did they do to my boy in the sequel

idk anon, the more i think about it the more i realize you're being contrarian for the sake of it
DD2 completely buttraped every class except for warrior, which is the only one that received any sort of objective improvement over its past iteration instead of just being castrated like the rest

>>722966171
Fighter still feels good in 2.

>>722966171
>class can do (correct option) or (incorrect option)
Yeah that’s the problem, in DD2 you actually use your full kit not just the most overpowered move

i only play warrior

>>722966298
>Yeah that’s the problem,
AKSHUALLY , and this is me shamelessly moving the goalposts, the problem stems from the way DD's offense/defense metrics work. you *need* to specialize in something and focus on it, otherwise you have to spam periapts every single fight just to penetrate defense benchmarks

this is especially a problem in BBI and has nothing to really do with class design on its own

>>722947280
This anon is entirely correct about everything.

>>722966413
No, it’s a problem with skill design. Damage formula is its own separate issue

>>722952780
I love Bitterblack Isle so fucking much, bros.

>>722966458
negative, two sides one coin etc
you don't get widespread diversity when the game demands a honed edge like that

>>722966298
>AAAAHHHHH!!! I CAN'T KILL THINGS WITH SPELLS I MUST USE HFB AND NOTHING ELSE OR ELSE IM BEING INEFFICIENT IN THIS SINGLE PLAYER GAME!!! SAVE ME ITSUNO AHHHHHHH!!!

>>722954650
I'm planning to get the game two years from now, anon. I'm not paying more than $10 and I'm in no rush to playing it now.

>>722947180
>>722947806
capcocksuckers would post random discord screenshots but then ignore how they spammed the entire site shilling this unfinished turd for weeks

>>722966527
>NOOOOOO THE CLASS DESIGN ISN’T FLAWED JUST PLAY BADLY ON PURPOSE

>>722955305
Anon, you cooked something nice in there. Don't lose perspective. Keep working. That's really good.

>>722966593
>JUST PLAY BADLY ON PURPOSE
Yes.
It is a singleplayer game, not a competition. The only opponent you have is your own ability to appreciate your time invested into something without autistic focus on optimization.

>>722946969
You guys sperging about God of War haven't played it.

>>722966593
>ITSNO PLEASE!!! CAPCOM IF YOU CAN HEAR ME I BEG YOU!!! REMOVE MY FREEDOM OF CHOICE!!! I HATE HAVING THE OPTION TO PLAY THE WAY I WANT!!! I MUST KILL THE LOW LEVEL GOBLINS AS FAST AS POSSIBLE!!!

No-kiss, forever virgin, loner vaggots who fap in their BLACKED® mother's basements to negrified, scat anime, will naturally seethe at being proven to be the aforementioned -- to be sure...

However, as history has now demonstrated, the majority spoke, and it was always going to be DoA.

>>722966171
of those I think Warrior actually does get shit on for only having access to like 3 skills and feeling generally gimped come lategame

No-kiss, forever virgin, loner vaggots who fap in their BLACKED® mother's basements to negrified, scat anime, will naturally seethe at being proven to be the aforementioned -- to be sure...

However, as history has now demonstrated, the majority spoke, and it was always going to be DoA.

>>722966945
i completely forgot about that because i had a week-1 mod that restored their second skill slot bandolier kek
what a piece of shit
good call

>>722966951
>>722966938
Nice double post you brown faggot.

Elden Ring and its consequences have been a disaster for gaming.

>>722966685
>defending nu-GoW
>the game that turned Odin into a literal random old jewish guy plucked up off the street of Los Angeles
most embarrassing post in this entire thread, well done

>>722964151
>DD1 had more enemies even if they're reskins like the hellhounds
Mostly because they're reskins, every DD2 subspecies has model differences as well as different textures. Compare Harpy and Harpy 2 (Snow/Venin) in both games. All the "gore" variants in DD2 also have differences like ogres having shaggier hair, minotaurs having larger horns and chains. (The exception is DD2's Garm and Warg where the latter are just scaled down and appear in pairs, which is bizarre and stupid.)
That said hellhounds should've returned. They were memorable as the (probably) first new enemy you see after killing the dragon and there's only two wolf varieties in DD2 for some reason. Reskins are fine when they're done well.

>>722946260 (OP)
Don't care. Had a blast.

>>722951316
2 is full of niggers and they got rid of lolis. That's enough of a reason not to play it.

>>722965253
Yes very much so.

>>722965674
vocations being less homogenized is not a flaw by itself. i'd much rather have archer's dd2 core moveset than have it be the worse half of strider/ranger's kit

>>722946260 (OP)
faggot mods actually pinned it's announcement. Every one of those shills needs to be publicly executed

>>722967407
>2 is full of niggers
saying this when dd1 has the blackest african known to man offering to take Quina to the cathedral and chuckling to himself is crazy

>>722967759
>one singular guy equates to entire cities and idris-fucking-elba(why did they think he was a good idea kek)

>>722967083
Had Elden Ring failed, you might not have "gaming" any longer -- period. Of all the I. P.'s that have been made "more accessible", ER managed the happiest medium, and one that did not destroy the core philopshy of 'Souls'. That, and anyone who advocates for Demon's Souls style co-op system in an open-world game, neve played the respective 'Souls' games, or is likely a clinically assabyle imbecile.

Capcom are retards, granted... But, with how DD2 effectively killed the I. P. for, at least, a decade, if not forever, even if co-op hollowed the experience out into some Dynasty Warriors affair, it would still have been preferable to the forgettable failware that released.

>you know, I know, we all know, it was because of RE Engine

>>722967946
>Had Elden Ring failed, you might not have "gaming" any longer -- period.
what does the homogenization of souls slop with goofy ass mario jumping have to do with gaming as a whole

>>722967759
I randomly encountered him in that Church where ogres sometimes spawn nearby.

He was sitting down in the pews and had new lines. Strange seeing him there, I should have seen if he walked all the way back to Gran Soren.

>>722968002
>20M+ units sold
>subtract those units
>do so in an environment where studios are more likely to close after a product launch, than less so
>where coding is outsourced to Hyderabad poojeet sweat shops
>where they will do away with, literally, every developer the moment A. I. goes quantum...
#DoDaMath

>>722946260 (OP)
/v/ had a sticky for this overrated shit
Dragon's dogma 2 cucks lost

>>722967305
>Harpies have faces like Greek statues in 1
>Generic woman face in 2
Its the little things that bug me.
>Reskins are fine when they're done well.
Quantity has a quality of its own. I don't know why they didn't just release a few more reskins for the end and post game to provide more variety. Surely it wasn't hard to make a few more Chimera's by changing their colour and spell list etc.

>>722967884
"entire cities" my ass. shit, dd2 has literal a hyperborea village where everyone in it is blonde and pale.
>idris-fucking-elba
the forced mercenary rival character would've sucked shit no matter what his skin color or hair style was

>>722967726
>>722968570
>I'm mad at this game because it was video games posted on /v/
a thread being at the top of the board for less than a day is not worth holding a grudge over

>>722947280
>I didn't see anyone complaining about Zeveran in Dragon's Age or Kadain in Mass Effect.
Kingdom Come is a historical drama while Dragon Age/Mass Effect are fantasy/sci-fi.

>>722968808
>Surely it wasn't hard to make a few more Chimera's by changing their colour and spell list etc.
If you're going to pad out the roster with chimeras then it seems like a wasted opportunity not to play around with the design more. Instead of hueshifting the chimera 2 or 3 times, you could have different types of lion/goat/snake that are swapped in when a chimera is spawned.
>viper-tailed
>hooded snake-tailed
>constrictor-tailed
>markhor horned goat, etc
That way, you see a chimera, you see it's meaningfully different and it prepares you to fight it a different way. Maybe you're familiar with the lion and snake types, but then the goat rams a pawn off the lion's back violently and proceeds to buff the lion's speed.

DD's monster design has always been topnotch and DD2 taking efforts to further distinguish monsters from their subspecies is one area I'd consider an improvement.

>>722951316
See, people think DDDA is DD1 when it's DD1.5 amd that most people complained about DD1 lacking prior to that.
DD2 was great and the biggest crime is that we won't get that Dark Arisen that rockets a solid core into an amazing title.

>>722961835
>DA changed none of this
Because DD's only problem was being too short. The stuff that was there was great.

>>722966298
Nah, you're a fucking idiot. All of your toolkit works in DD, and more importantly, it's fun to use. You being a faggot and pretending that everyone plays by spamming the highest DPS move won't magically make that the way everyone played.

>>722970068
It's about the cost/time efficiency. As much as I'd love that idea, its clear that the devs did not have the time or manpower to make enough enemies. Pallet swaps require little effort but give pretty good returns in terms of beefing up enemy variety, if you've already got a diverse enough set of base models (which the game mostly had). A few more variations of the major monsters (Chimeras, Ogres, Cyclops, Griffon and so on) would really help. Yes, ideally we get more alternations to the model and textures (eg the COCK as an alternative to the Griffon) but sometimes that isn't possible.

>>722946260 (OP)
Chuds were trying to brainwash themselves into saying this was goty because they needed to score one on the wokes or something. It was embarrassing

i just want to see these types of threads with IP counters
sure it was a stinker but my god you can SMELL the samefaggery

>>722970684
Then I guess I would at least want the palette/texture changes to reflect something interesting. Like regional variants, even.
>chimera's snakes have patterns like black/yellow Desert Kingsnakes in deserts or bright green Anacondas in forests
>mountain goat heads on mountains, red kalahari goat heads in the desert
In turn those lend themselves easily to interesting changes in attack/spell priority (mountains are cold, so they cast ice more; deserts are hot, so they cast fire more; desert snakes are more venomous, forest snakes bite or constrict more, etc).
Anything they can to elevate it from 'just' a palette swap. Give them a sense of place in the world.

>>722970426
>TWO separate surveys, one in March 2024, one in June 2024, about what to do with the game/series
>proceed to do nothing with this information they gathered
i can't imagine the results were much different from "DA2 pls" either

>>722953449
There are parts that I hate and dislike but just fucking around and exploring can be fun. I've even been playing on goypasd because I have no real reason to update. I have until my sub expires in Nov due to their ungodly price hike but if I had a pc to play it I might consider it if mods cpuld fix my gripes.

>>722971496
My copium is that they're just secretly working on a major expansion and they're gonna shadowdrop it.

>>722966678
>redditfrogging an actually cool meme
fuck you and die

>>722951316
No Bitterblack DLC

>>722946260 (OP)
I remember someone wrote "no lolis in dd2" before launch and I immediately lost all interest in it since.
>t. played dd1 on release day

>6/10core game gets a 6/10core sequel
was anyone actually surprised?

>>722972308
based pedo putting his foot down when it matters

>>722972308
dear friend, everything you said is correct

>>722947280
nu gow2 was dogshit tho

>>722967231
thats 2

>Couldn't even make a new character on release.
>The jews at Capcom really thought they could get away with selling MTX customization tokens so you could remake your character in a single player game.
I loved DD1 even though it was a 7/10 unfinished game but you are absolutely retarded if you bought this dumpster fire.

>>722973376
i played and enjoyed it, why was I a moron?

>>722951957
so there be a jank kickstarter game

>>722973413
If you have to ask why after all the negative things about the game then yes you are a moron. The biggest of morons.

>>722973413
evidently

Now i remember how much mystic spearhand kicks ass.
https://youtube.com/shorts/zSgFfX-zhnk

Zero point in playing this game when Elden Ring does everything 10x better, it's not even close.

>>722973669
Everybody wanted Mystic Knight with new stuff, not Mystic Spearchucker from Temu.

>nigger knights
>furries
>dragonsplague

i enjoyed DD2. it wasn't everything i'd ever hoped for, but it wasn't the worst piece of shit ever. the unmoored world was unironic kino and capcom should stick to the "timed open world with a grand goal" type design like there was in the unmoored world or like in dead rising 1 and 2. it makes everything more interesting and fuck idiots who think it is bad design.

>>722974150
Dragonsplague was such a huge fucking nothingburger.

>>722951324
Can't pinpoint the exact moment, probably around the time when I learned that a part of the marketing budget went to people like Asmongold and Spherehunter to promote the game and have their own official pawns in the game.

Remember when I called out the fact that game will be unreasonably demanding om the CPU, like half a year prior to release, when they showed the official requirements, and people instantly called me a tech illiterate retard?

Fuck those people.

>>722951316
a lot of hype from people who played dd1 when they were kids, performance issues because RE engine is hungry and runs open worlds like ass, and the game is clearly unfinished. if dd1 is a diamond in the rough 8/10 i'd say dd2 is a 7/10 that's a little rougher. /v/ has some "anti-shill" discord groups that target games to stir shit really. they do it all the time to all kinds of games, dd2 is nothing new. there's a new tortanic attempt for them every month

>>722967946
Elden Ring was mediocre slop

>>722946763
spbp

>>722966557
You're butthurt because a video game release had some fan anticipation and flooded out threads for a few weeks
None of that shit matters bro wake up

Shit thread

>>722946969
Deus Ex remake is like seeing your kindergarten teacher in a wheelchair after a stroke

>>722966685
>God of War 2018
>Play
One third of the game is cutscenes, how the hell am I supposed to play it?

DD1 was hated on launch too, spreg

is there a chud mod for this yet?

Wukong flopped harder

>>722977558
there's still 2/3 left after you subtract 1/3

>>722978019
Well maybe I find the whole ordeal intolerable.

>>722978168
you can just play a different game if you don't like games that are 1/3 movie. well, unless you have a playstation.

and how the hell did you even get far enough to be able to tell if you hate that stuff? are you some sort of masochist? just turn it off if it's bad, just walk away from the computer

i am befuddled how dd fags managed to get such a massive persecution complex
i'm sorry but solid physics can't save a shallow arpg with a bizarre fixation on npc companions, nor retrofitting it into dark souls

Anyone here have any experience playing the game with this guys mods?
https://next.nexusmods.com/profile/Nickesponja/mods?gameId=6234

i dont understand the backlash disappointment when dd1 was just as bad, it was just more of the same turd

idk I had fun with it. Neither DD1 nor 2 are really the kind of games I would replay a lot. I don't see the "clear downgrade in quality" like other people mention, other than a couple things that I think DD1 did better
>No BBI equivalent
>absolutely retarded vocation layouts compared to the logical color circle we had in DD1
>capcoms insistence on the RE engine when its just not well optimized for large open worlds.