Thread 722950261

let's have a good old classic tomb raider thread!

neigh

>>722950325
wrong franchise, friend

tomb raider 4 is an amazingly crafted, long adventure, but man is it arduous when you get lost

insane how 5 is short and has only 2 good chapters (the middle chapters)

>>722950530
yeah 4 seems to be a game of extremes - everything that it does well it does incredibly well but everything it does poorly it does incredibly poorly
i think if it weren't for the confusing lack of direction when you have to navigate some levels and some of the janky control mechanics, it would probably be a lot of TR fans #1 game in the series

How's The Last Revelation?
I've played 1,2,3 and Chronicles but not 4.

>>722950937
Never mind, I haven't seen these posts >>722950530 >>722950784

>>722950937
It's long. LOOOONG. And all set in Egypt instead of different locations.

The worst part is that there are multiple levels connected together and you will travel back and forth between zones and you can get lost. Don't feel bad if you have to use a guide. But it has high production value and it's the longest Tomb Raider game.

>>722950937
use a guide, whenever you get lost you can spend literal hours running around aimlessly

>>722951124
>The worst part is that there are multiple levels connected together and you will travel back and forth between zones
funnily enough, this is what the developers tried to do with the very first game but they didn't have the time or resources to make it happen
sometimes the results are better when you're more constrained, eh?

ah yes, the canadian tuxedo

lara a cute!

>>722950261 (OP)
I'm genuinely not trying to encourage porn use or fapping, but Julius Zimmerman did such amazing art in the 2000s I wanted to share.

Always such a shame that most retards give her brown eyes when they're basically red as fuck.
No one likes shit-coloured eyes except browns and retards.

>>722954321
woah, nice!

>>722954524
like a red hot hazelnut

>>722954321
>doesn't want to encourage fapping
>posts a pic that encourages fapping
anon... pls

>>722955383
I know I know, I did actually want to share his interpretation of Lara and her beauty, because I think it's underappreciated in classic TR threads.

>>722957823
well i do appreciate it! you can even post more if you like

>>722950261 (OP)
The urge to smash her tits.

The remastered 1,2&3 are on sale right now. Should I consoom them? I only ever played 1 when I was a babby and I was too scared of the wolves on level 1

>>722958249
great minds think alike

>>722958334
if you like platformers and puzzles, you should definitely get it
a lot of old fans who last played the games as kids in the 90s or early 2000s have been picking it up again to settle old scores

>>722950261 (OP)
I remember playing Last Revelation back in the day on my PS1 and my save file would randomly get deleted/corrupted after a certain point so I never made it far. I remember the beginning tutorial part was my favorite part though.

>>722958530
>I remember the beginning tutorial part was my favorite part though.
this is the first time i'm hearing somebody say this
people usually hate that part

I remember my friend had one of these games and all we ever did was run around the mansion area trying to hide from the butler then locking him in the freezer

>>722950261 (OP)
I just beat chronicles. I feel like I would've been better served browsing the fan levels instead of beating that one.

>>722958693
have you tried sabatu's levels? they're apparently even better designed than the original levels and some fans say that they're the best levels ever designed in a platforming game

>>722959029
I haven't even really delved into the fan levels just found the websites dedicated to uploading and sharing them. It genuinely kind of warms my heart seeing how much support it had/has. Like the doom mod scene. Still active after all these years.

I tried one inspired by Resident Evil and it required some complex "pro strats" jump to get out of the first area. To be fair the game straight up warns of this kind of stuff in the missions readme. It was neat I thought.

>>722958653
It was a nice cute backstory that ends horrifically. There were no real enemies to worry about and was just simple platforming. Even felt like the map was better because as soon as the real game started, it was just a bland dark pyramid/tomb but again, I never really made it far. My save file would corrupt every time I make it a little past the tutorial. Never did find out why.

>>722959647
>My save file would corrupt every time I make it a little past the tutorial. Never did find out why.
that's odd and disappointing because the rest of the game after that first level is a lot more like that tutorial level

>>722950261 (OP)
I liked how in Revelations you could visit her nerd friend in between finding new keys and artifacts and he'd sometimes have new cutscenes with Lara talking about ancient relics and shit. That was cool.

>>722959874
>Revelations
I'm posting in an RE thread at the same time I got confused. Last Revelation.

>>722958464
Meh, my 35 year old sludge brain can't be arsed with puzzles. I've got more important shit to do, like picking up prescriptions and doing kegel exercises. How hard are they roughly, out of 10?

>>722960009
without spoiling anything, it's difficult to say really because a lot of the puzzles are just sort of unclear as to what you have to do
there's one puzzle where you have to combine multiple items to create a large item and if you aren't actively thinking about how all of those items MIGHT be able to work together to get another item, you'll never figure it out

silly

>>722950261 (OP)
Tank controls were essential for the game's level design and playability.

i'm up to area 51 in my tr3 playthrough atm. it's definitely easier the second time around but i'm still nervous about going to london again, those levels kicked my ass

>>722963173
with london just remember: think about where you need to go and what you might need to get there!

>>722950530
I wasn't the biggest fan of 4. The only area I really liked was Alexandria and Coastal Ruins.

>>722963261
you didn't like TR2? you didn't like the first level or venice or the last china levels?

>>722958048
Hopefully I censor these correctly and don't get banned.

>>722963349
Great Wall is insanely beautiful and I will never forget that moment stepping out onto the wall for the first time with the music playing but otherwise I don't find it that interesting.
Venice sucks for various reasons, the boat is a big reason. Opera House in general is shit.
Temple of Xian is incredible but runs a little too long. Floating Islands ruins it.

>>722963261
2 is kino, it's literally just venice that gets kinda old for me, everything else is amazing. maria doria is peak comfy

>>722963349
Streets of Rome in Chronicles does a better job of what Venice should have been IMO it was way better

>>722963349
Everyone who hated TR2 hated it cause it went "oh someone complained there wasn't enough to shoot? Well let's go to the polar opposite of that and have way too many enemies to shoot". As a youngin I was one of those assholes who complained about that so when TR2 came along there I was with my now favorite entry in the entire CORE series. I get it, it does have way too much battling dudes with guns. Still my favorite one though. Shit the thing I hate the most about it is introducing the idea of forced damage to the series with that bit in some level where you have to drop out of a ceiling and without full health won't survive so they give you meds for the fall.

>>722963750
there is actually a way to make that fall no damage but it's a trick and probably not intended

>>722963382
can you post more?

>>722963261
>angel of darkness
>A

>>722950530
>Cairo levels
it's so tiresome

>>722963913
Two more, then I'm done. Really though, if people want porn they can just look it up themselves.

>>722963261
Great Wall and Venice are amazing levels

>>722964141
>Thames Warf
>Aldwych
>Lud's Gate
>Cairo
what the actual fuck was andy's problem bros

>>722954321
Talk about a blast from the past

>>722964207
Andy being responsible for the London and Cairo levels makes so much sense now

>>722963964
Would be the best one if the Louvre/dig/tomb of ancients sections were refined, the story was tidied up especially by including the missing scene where Karel was supposed to strike a deal with Lara, and if not for the fact that the game controls like pure ass. Everything else is perfect

>>722964068
>>722964165
huh, apparently this is from the 2000s/2010s
it looks much older than that

>>722964207
heather... i kneel...

>>722964571
Zimmerman never really changed artstyle wise. I mean there were things altered here and there but it always looked more or less like this. At least based on the last time I looked at his art sorry I mean wacked off to his artwork.

>>722964830
LOL
does he still draw?

>>722964623
the India levels are peak atmosphere, traps, and complexity

>>722964890
Pretty sure he's dead

>>722964830
His art really went downhill in the mid-2010s. It was still enjoyable but he obviously didn't have time to be careful like he used to.

>>722965015
He is, died in 2017.

>>722964623
She anonymously published a TRLE level in 2019 under the username "Ex Core Design"

>>722964926
Yup India is probably my fav set of TR levels ever. Nathan McCree also at the top of his game with that level's music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO6EM9tEWio

>>722954321
fuck, just remembered my nigga died

>>722965129
link to level https://www.trle.net/sc/levelfeatures.php?lid=3133

>>722965015
>>722965121
:(

>>722965129
>>722965223

>>722965129
>>722965223
Well time to make a special folder on my computer again so windows doesn't freak the fuck out at the altered Tomb Raider EXE I just downloaded. Still though nice find thanks.

That woke disclaimer never made sense to me.

>>722965886
It's just Crystal Dynamics (who unfortunately remain the IP holder) throwing a hissy fit because Aspyr commissioned these remasters and the Saber Interactive team did a good job with them.

Crystal still to this day have a chip on their shoulder about being stuck as the Tomb Raider IP holders and a lot of their company culture is based around the pursuit of desecrating the IP as a form of revenge. They had nothing to do with these remasters but still forced this message in as part of the culture/mission I just mentioned.

what is the best Lara outfit?

>>722966113
Revenge for what, Trump's presidency?

>>722966545
>Revenge for what
prosperity and stability

>>722966412
london catsuit + choker

>>722966545
legacy of kain getting no attention, core design not accepting crystal's offer to lend them their engine back in the day, disdain for the English

>>722959029
This is accurate.

>>722950261 (OP)
is there a patch to fix underworld? the camera is so wonky i have to take a break every hour or so to avoid motion sickness
plus theres a bunch of bugs that keep fucking up my jumps

>>722966732
>>722966545
>>722966113
it is said that CD's disdain with Lara Croft and LoK began when a certain individual was hired and led to Amy leaving the company, and he is now the highest faggot in the hierarchy there since.

>>722950261 (OP)
Zoomer here
Any reason to play other versions of the Tomb Raider games over this one for first time?
My only experience with the series is the 2013 reboot.
Gonna play with the original graphics

>>722967142
The controls can be a bit fucky just a heads up. Sometimes the jumps that are designed to be played on classic tank controls can be iffy to land on the new ones.

>>722967142
Remaster is fine. Just switch to tank controls/classic controls.

>>722965886
Better than censorship

>>722967142
TR1X is a source port that adds more extensive "mod-like" improvements and features, but it is only for Tomb Raider 1 and mostly meant for playing custom levels.

In terms of balancing the "original intended experience" with quality of life features like widescreen support, the remasters are the best to my knowledge. Just make sure you download the framerate unlock mod or else the classic graphics mode will be locked to 30fps for literally no reason (unlocking fps won't have any negative impact). https://www.nexusmods.com/tombraidertrilogyremastered/mods/697

this game was peak soul. take me back

this game made me enjoy snow levels. usually I hate them but the benefit of TR is that you can actually fucking see when the BG is white

>>722965223
K.i.n.o.

>>722965886
theres a zone where you hunt niggers, dude. of course they're gonna put that

>>722967934
>>722965886
>the original games are racist because you shoot black tribespeople
>meanwhile in our game:

>>722967858
Temple of Cat levels are soooooooo good. All of the gold expansions are top notch

>>722968042
this cat?

>>722968042
or one of these cats?

luckily the devs put this cheese pillar here
and luckily the cats cant jump 1 foot in the air to hit me

my only regret is not taking more screenshots

>>722968042
>>722968080
>Cats frequently spawn behind you or in impossible to reach locations specifically to fuck with you
>Remaster really bumped up the glow in the dark eyes effect even if the cat decals are AI smudged to shit
classic tomb raider has actual difficulty. True 10/10 design because the devs kept raising the bar

the egypt levels were pretty based

>>722968316
TR1 Egypt mogs TR4 Egypt honestly.

the spicy curry caves were pretty interesting too

dickwasher temple was aight too

how did this palm tree grow in the middle of the temple?

>>722967706
>>722967706
Does the classic controls support analog sticks?
Tank controls without analog sticks is honestly a pain to play with when I tried earlier PS1 titles

>>722967836
>but it is only for Tomb Raider 1 and mostly meant for playing custom levels
That's pretty cool, love it when there are ways to play custom levels made by fans

>Just make sure you download the framerate unlock mod or else the classic graphics mode will be locked to 30fps for literally no reason (unlocking fps won't have any negative impact).
Sure, gonna keep that in mind

>>722968820
conservation efforts

endangered plam trep must keep safe

>>722968984
>Does the classic controls support analog sticks?
Yeah. I prefer tank controls on analog sticks just like you. I never had any issues using tank sticks in any Tomb Raider game. Pretty sure I only ever touched the d pad to navigate menus

Which official expansion did you enjoy the most? I liked 2s the most. At one point I pushed a box and a dog appeared out of thin air in the space the box used to be. 10/10

>>722970275
Yes I agree TR2 Golden Mask was the best expansion. Although I really enjoyed how difficult TR1 Unfinished Business was, being so tight on resources and faced with so many traps and difficult enemies made it really intense

>get told that classic TR community is nothing but horny sexist pigs
>look inside
>it's all friendly, comfy wholesome posting

>>722970275
bigfoot kingdom level where you get trapped in the cage is ultrakino

>>722971593
What's that saying? You can believe what jews tell you about your ancestors, or what your ancestors told you about the jews.

>>722963261
And people were saying no one hated part 2, when I recall most everyone I knew and a lot online disliked it the most out of the 3.

>>722971593
>get told that classic TR community is nothing but horny sexist pigs
yeah that's typical. the only people that will tell you something like that are the people that have never played them (or they ran around the mansion for a bit and quit 2 minutes into the first level). the sort of person that will form opinions first and then try to reaffirm them.
classic TR threads are mostly a nice time, pretty consistently

>>722967142
It might take you a bit of getting accustomed to but I 100% recommend the original tank controls, they'll eventually help with the harder platforming sections. Have fun

I'm stuck in TR3 last level
Fuck those respawning bugs

hey buddy

>>722965223
doubt it's really her
no

>>722973528
She brings a little bit of Lara out in this podcast episode https://youtu.be/2iYYnFeuh0M?t=2335 at 38:55

>>722973283
If you can beat TR3 Lost City of Tinnos then you can beat anything

>>722973528
>woman wrote the character and the story for the most famous female video game character of all time
>woman did all of the voicework for her
>woman designed most of the levels
>passes the bechdel-wallace test
tomb raider 1 is the most feminist game of all time and i will not have my mind changed

>>722973693
I love her so much
lovely voice and funny too

>>722973824
Something made by a woman is not the same as something made by a feminist. A feminist game is one where the woman is just a man with a vagina. The other type of game is just "videogame made by a woman".

System Shock was codeveloped by a woman, John Romeros wife is a programmer who helped him a lot on his projects and so on. Cool women are incredibly rare but they do exist.

>>722974147
nta, I dunno you could argue it's at least implicitly feminist even if that wasn't an explicit motivation of the creator.

>>722974461
The nature of rhetoric, language, and mental gymnastics dictates that you could argue nearly anything is implicitly feminist

>>722974461
Feminism isnt even a real ideology any more than "I hate men" is an ideology.

>>722954524
Her eyes are beautiful you fag

>>722967142
psx versions have checkpoints so you can't savescum every difficult jump. imo the best version to play.

>>722964384
The controls aren't even that bad if you use the original PS2 control scheme which was added to the remaster in a patch. This game just wasn't designed with tank controls in mind as opposed to the previous ones.

>>722950530
>>722950261 (OP)
3>1>4>6>2>5

2 is overrated as fuck. Do not fight me. Shut the fuck up.