Thread 722989491

Fari du la si manet
Doni puana fua ri net
Pina so mi maniset
Dana fong siu lo bon

not playing this game until they release an english dub

He gets killed doesn't he

>>722990634
He'll be the HK3 protagonist.

>>722990634
_______________no_______________

>>722989530
probably for the best. it's an irredeemably unbalanced and unrewarding dung heap. TC ruined it by bloating a DLC into a (((full))) game.

>>722990634
In the sense that all of Hornet's lovers end up dead

>>722991946
Which boss filtered you?

>>722991946
filtered by the great conchfly hunter's journal entry, I see.

Hollow Knight: Shermsong when?

>>722990690
realistically, what will be the HK3 mc? lace?

>>722994193
Depends on what they do with DLC. Confirming the Godhome flower ending as canon means everyone's now wondering what happened to HK.

>>722989491 (OP)
shut the fuck up tranny

>>722994193
Hopefully not
Lace was a cool boss but that weebtroon-pandering anime voice is insufferable

>>722989491 (OP)
CAM ON HORNET

>Dood, let's make a character with cool song that everyone on the planet likes.... But she only appears every 10 hours
What the fuck were they thinking???

>>722994193
Zote of course. Stick to the plan.

>>722994193
Team Cherry just spent a whole game building up Lace, it has to be her, unless they want to push a big reset button, but that's unlike them.

>>722996468
>she
also, good job being an ADHD retard, the boy has like 10 scenes.

>>722996723
>the boy has like 10 scenes in 100 hour long game.
Yeah, that's the point retard.

>>722994193
Zote.
in his dream form
https://youtu.be/zidGo704SvI

>>722996723
she looks like a woman and she talks like a woman, she's a woman transphobe. I don't care what gender Team Cherry assigned to her.

>>722996468
They were thinking a character can be memorable without shoving it in the player's face constantly

>>722990690

I feel a comedic grimblo character like Zote or Sherma would be a much more compelling choice than Lace.

>>722996895
They failed with Lace

>>722996998
Okay retard.

>>722996897
>zote
>comedic grimblo

>>722996897
Zote isn't a comedic character. He's a tragic antihero.

>>722996998
Imagine the silk maiden bots in the citadel were replaced with random encounters with Lace where she pops in for a set amount of time that you can reduce by hitting her enough times

>>722996780
>100 hour
shitter detected

>>722996998
I asked on the HK discord if Lace is a bad character, and most people said they liked her and wouldn't mind her being the new MC.

So it's just /v/ again being insecure about femininity. Lace is much more feminine than Hornet, so it pisses off autists who unironically think anything girly = troon shit.

>>722997119
She should've unironically done this throughout act 1.

>>722996813
>zote game where all your powers are just advancing levels of bullshit luck
kino

>>722997367
No idea if it ever comes out but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA9JIEIYmTQ

>>722997150
So true sis, shall we go back together ?

silksong is more frustrating than fun, HK is better

>>722997150
I don't mind girly characters, but anime girly is annoying

>>722997150
Discord is at least 20% trannies and people are less likely to share negative opinions in a dedicated server.

>>722998076
HK is so slow tho

>>722990690
Unironically an older sherma would be cool as shit. He was skilled enough to make it to the citadel so him being a warrior monk growing up would be kino

>>722997150
Yeah I'm sure that discord server is totally not filled with tumblrtroons.

>>722999631
He needed to have his ass rescued when he went to whiteward or wherever his quest took place
The only reason all those people made it to Songclave is that Hornet removed every threat in the way

>>722994193
This nigga is getting a stealth game. Book it.

why is hornet such an exhibitionist?

>>722991946
Hello DSP!

>>722996634
>didn't reach all of the goals
>as a punishment we goat Groal instead

>>722997089
Grey Prince Zote is a grown parasite from Greyroot

>>722994193
I read somewhere that Silksong would be the last Hollow Knight game. I don’t know if that’s true or not though

>>723001583
He canonically made it through Blasted Steps on his own and is confused why Hornet thinks the Judges are dangerous since they let him go peacefully

>>723002953
It might be another 10 years but there's zero chance Silksong is the last Hollow Knight game.

>>723003086
Fearless Fox is next

damn grandma flaunting her wide hips like this, needs hag correction

>>722990690
I will buy and play it if that's the case. I spoiled Hollow Knight for watching it for an hour on youtube. Would be cool with more locations and them unique. I don't like the look of the silksong bug.

The cute one thouygh would be cool. Whole point of the aesthetic is cute things in little setups, dwarfed by a huge world.

>>723001583
A sherma-centric stealth game would be interesting

>>723003203
Sherma Walking Simulator / Polyrythm Game

>>722999631
>>723003203
Sherma got to the Citadel because his song soothes those around him, as seen at Pilgrim's Rest.
He soothes that haunted pilgrim with his song and when he leaves, that pilgrim becomes hostile and attacks you.

>>723003286
>City of Steel
>Metal
Sherma's guitar hero spinoff is inevitable.

>>722989491 (OP)
*CLANG CLANG*
Shitty faggot tranny game
Made for queers who like big dick
Fuck this shitty faggot game
Silksong shills should kill themselves
*CLANG CLANG*

>>723003936
If you rhymed it I would've called it epic.

>>722989530
>english dub
>hornet's death cry is completely ruined
it wouldn't be the same

>>722997150
>I asked a platform notoriously infested by trannies if this was troon shit, and they assured me it isn't while dilating

>>723004285
trvth nuke

>>722997150
>much
How many tranny flag and egg emotes did you get on your message?

>>723004285
>>723004926
>stupid fucking chud has no argument

>>722995768
>>722996660
Lace is basically just hornet 2.0. Making a game with her would just be redundant.

>>722995768
>>722996660
Lace is basically just hornet 2.0. Making a game with her would just be redundant.

>>722994193
It should be a more tactical fighter prequel with Quirrel in another land during his wandering period, or a Zote brawler.
Or, if they were based A Lemm & Myla based typing game where the sentences cover the lore

>>723005971
She's also a character whose backstory is already solved. There's nothing particularly interesting there. GMS made her and then she wandered around the citadel killing things for a while then she busted Hornet out. No friends, no other family besides Phantom. There's nothing to dig into like there was with Hornet. Maybe it's just me but I dont really care to learn more about Lace. She's a very dull and one-dimensional character.

how do I get there bros?

>>723006919
Don't bother. The boss is going to make you say AY AY AY NO ME GUSTA!!!

>>723006919

Go to the statue in Hunter's March, where the girl NPC was hiding.

Don't bother trying to get there via a shortcut.

>>723006279
It's funny how little there is to her even though she only appears like 5 times throughout the whole game.

>>723003149
>Silk bondage
They knew exactly what they were doing, fuck.

>>723003341
>Needolin doesn't actually freeze your enemies, that's just how the bugs of Pharloom react to music.

>>723009142
they just like to sing :')

>>722990634
he gets smooshed

>>723010198
Canon

>>722990634
No he gets a "Faith is shook, but comes back stronger" arc and becomes the new Head Priest.

>>722996634
Silksong didn't have enough content for what they were offering to in HK. they made 4 quintillion dollars and we don't even get the big abyss with 4 bosses in skong. Silksong is phoned in trash

I wonder if Hornet is actually attractive in-universe.

>>722994193
It's a longshot but having it be the Hollow Knight and the trilogy be about the siblings would be pure kino.

>>723010669
She had a weirdo sex pervert try to sneak a peak in a hot bath anon.

>>722990690
>>722989491 (OP)
What the hell is his chime thing anyway? Most of the instruments/tools are recognizable as real world objects

>>723010756
I mean yeah and I thought of that too, but a weird sex pervert would have done that to any female bug, most likely.

>>723010669
Canonically, yes. She's a princess and a half-god. Some exotic, athletic femme fatale.

>>723010756
>weirdo sex pervert try to sneak a peak
Not exactly an indicator of attractiveness

>>723010942
Weirdo sex pervets don't sneak a peek at fatties and uggo's anon.

>>723011198
>sex pervets don't sneak a peek at fatties and uggo's anon.
Lol, just go to a /b/ creepshot thread and you'll see dozens of blurry pictures of fat grandmas

>>723011137
She gets called maiden and young and beautiful like 30 times in game by bugs and weaver prophecy shit

>>723011198
who the fuck is vog

>>723011346
Play the game

>>723011346
Didn't get to Act 3, huh?

>Blasted Sands, Wormways or Bilewater up next
I have no idea what's in the wormways, but I'm not going back to Bilewater right now. Fuck that place.

>>723011314
Kratt is a flea of taste who appreciates Hornet's nubile form

i'm bored of this

>>723011346
Character they hid because they didn't want normal players to access the poorly paced, shitty fan service slop in the 3rd act. That's only for the dedicated tards

>>723011569
Wormways via Blasted Sands gets you the "I want this to be like Hollow Knight 1" crest.

Wormways through the Simple Key is where you discover meth.

>>723011712
>Wormways via Blasted Sands gets you the "I want this to be like Hollow Knight 1" crest.
You don't even need Wormways for that once you can wall climb.

>>723011712
>I want this to be like Hollow Knight 1
But...I thought I already got that from the graveyard? but alright, I'll do anything but blighttown today

>>723011673
Why aren't Hadesfags this autistic.

>>723011838
>>723011880
Oh shit you guys are right.
What the fuck did Wormways have besides meth and that one Needolin door?

>>723012114
That's it. You could use it to get to Wanderer and Shellwood early with the key, but it really had little going for it by itself. Can't even get to Blasted Sands from it, it's just there.

>>723011908
Silksong is actually really popular and highly successful.

I have done it!

>>723012395
It's just weird how /v/ been losing their mind over a bug remarrying potraying them as a cheating harlot who sleeos around.

Then Hades 2 comes out and that's actually straight up what Mel says and its crickets.

>>723010669
We don't really know what constitutes female attractiveness in these weird bug things. In real bugs it's size. Hornet is not that big, so probably not? I'm guessing someone like Divine is considered pretty hot.

>>723012395
>really popular and highly successful
for all the wrong reasons

>>723011198
Shakra would have turned him inside out if he tried that shit on her.

>>723012710
It's a meme you dip

>>723011594
Did you get the shortcut

Now that the dust has settled can we admit that the only difficult part of this game involves some platforming
Mount fay made me rage like a retard

>>723011908
You can't choose an autistic fixation, anon. It has to happen naturally.

>>723012970
No. the platforming was not white palace tier and was in fact rather easy due to hornet's movement options... chud

>>723012970
Lost Lace is the only thing that gave me actual trouble. Like, "I need to sit down and spend a few hours figuring this out" kind of trouble. Claims of Silksong difficulty have been wildly exaggerated. I'm assuming it mostly comes from modern gamers who are completely unaccustomed to actually losing in fights or difficult situations, and having to adapt and learn ways to win. I don't really blame them, since they're used to being handed easy wins by devs too scared of bad reviews to actually challenge the player.

>>723012970
There is no difficult part of the game. There are annoying parts which waste your time if you fail but they are easily beaten.

>>723012970
Mt. Fay had me worried for like two minutes before I realized they put heat spots all over the place so it was just a case of getting to the next one bit by bit instead of trying to rush up to the top asap.

>>723012710
Because someone got mindbroken by Silksong releasing but doesn't care about Hades.

>>723012970
Mount Faye wasn't bad. The act 3 climbs were frustrating.

>>723013172
>white palace tier
That was part of the DLC if I'm not mistaken

>>723012970
Nope, the platforming was the easiest part. Yes, even with double jump replacing the glide.

Hardest parts for me were
>Bilewater/Groal fight with only one nail upgrade
>Whiteward secret boss
>Meat delivary mission for nail upgrade
>Choral Tower
>Karmelita
>Lost Lace

>>723013403
>The act 3 climbs
Huh
Escaping the abyss or what?
I took me less than 10 tries

>>722994193
Come on now. Lace has 0.1% of the charisma Hornet has. Her design, voice lines, quotes, are much, much worse.

>>723013513
Probably means reaching the surface.
Lot of people seem to struggle timing Clawline then double jump.

>>723013513
>>723013513
Prolly that and surface climb. But surface just involves the same clawline -> double jump combo over and over again

>>723013492
>>Whiteward secret boss
I raged hard on that one but got him in the end. Hit box as big as 1/4 of the screen.

>>723013492
>Choral Tower
The only valid answer
My point still standa I think the average player had more raging moments with some platforming than with the fights

>>722994193
The game expected me to care about Lace way too much for an NPC who only shows up 3 times in a 60 hour playthrough to do nothing but laugh at me for 30 seconds and leave.

>>723013694
The most baffling part is the actual boss is one of the easiest in the whole game. But doing the littke arena fights nonstop was hell.

the fact there are cut cheevos for collecting all materium and mementos makes it clear they were originally required for 100% but even TC knew most players would be sick of this dumb fucking game by that point

>>723013619
Ah you mean the path to the nameless town
Yeah I forgot about that but I still struggled with Mt Fay more

>>723012970
Platforming is easy desu, the only hard parts of the platforming are when the game throws flying mobs between the platforms to bodyblock you in ways that are really gay to get rid of.
The actual hard parts of the game are arenas with flying enemies, because that shit is cancerous as fuck unless you toolspam. Trial of the Bird and Coral Tower are the hardest fights in the game for the powerlevel you're intended to be at when doing them.

>>723013970
I didn't find coral tower bad at all but I rushed for the 4th nail upgrade since abyss enemies were so tanky in act 3

>>723013795
There's a shortcut after the 3rd arena, right before boss.

>>723013492
>no mention of beating Seth's numbers at the flea festival
Flea juggle in particular was tough to beat his record for me.

>>723014097
That nail upgrade probably amounted to only 1 less hit on each enemy to kill desu, it doesn't matter nearly as much as you think. Coral Tower is a motherfucker because it's the end-all-be-all "ganks faggy flying retards who stack overlapping projectiles while playing keepaway and the floor is lava" segments. Yes I know about the stupid fucking shortcut, no that doesn't mean fighting your way to that shortcut isn't the hardest part of the game for all the wrong reasons.

>>723012970
Everyone has a weird part that for whatever reason was extra hard. For me it was the conductor boss (took more tries than any other boss) and the climb to the surface. As I was doing it, I got mad that something so simple was taking me so long.
Im no shitter, so the game was just kinda hard, but it feels like im getting worse at platforming with age.
Maybe in a couple of years, I will become yet another shitter that struggles.

>>723014196
>flea games
so again not the actual fights

>>722989491 (OP)
The game is really easy with wanderer

>>723014152
I know but just getting to that shortcut bit was hell.

The arena where they turn the floor to spikes and have flying bastards kept fucking me.

>>723012946
haven't even got that far yet

>>723014447
Wanderer for the fights and Reaper for platforming

>>723014196
I'm not a completionist, getting the true ending is enough for me. I can see how that is pure hell but getting just enough to get the last nail upgrade isn't too bad.

>>722994193
I still maintain it will be the Hollow Knight, titular character of the franchise.
The void has become a problem and it's clearly not unified under Shade Lord.
He will wield Radiance's light to fight the Darkness

>>723014343
>For me it was the conductor boss (took more tries than any other boss)
That's a common opinion. Most people had a lot of trouble with that boss. Maybe not enough to call him The Hardest Boss, but certainly enough trouble to say he's One Of The Hardest Bosses. It's a hard boss because he takes FOREVER. He's got a billion health relative to how often he lets you hit him, and his entire moveset is designed to stall you. You die trying to find when you're allowed to hit him, realize you're never really allowed to hit him, get mad, and start spamming tools. He's toolspam-bait: the boss, and since you only have a very limited supply of tool ammo, dying to him is extremely frustrating.

>>723014646
I hope it's this true.
Have the true ending be the three siblings unite would be absolute kino.

>>723014646
What was THK doing in the background during SS? Since Embrace the Void is canon, he's still alive and free (presuming Hornet didn't immediately kill him offscreen after the cutscene ended).

>>723014848
Hard to tell.
He DID assume void form briefly. There's a shade that clearly has a cracked mask that holds Radiance still for Ghost to kill it.
But if you take what the "all Endings are canon" in a specific way, it could be interpreted as "some facets of each ending are canon".
And in the godhome endings, HK lives and is confronted by Hornet.

>>723014543
did 100% with wanderer and mouse and keyboard

>>723014196
i don't care for mastering the shitty minigames that don't actually give you a tangible reward
i treat that memento like i treat land of storms in hollow knight: i don't care and you're autistic if you bother to do it

>>723013795
I wish crust king was harder, the idea behind his fight is really cool but his attacks have such a massive windup you have to be geriatric to be hit by it

>>723014848
searching for his true purpose and how to live on with the guilt of his own failure, In the City of Steel

>>723015319
>game is literally called Hollow Knight: Soul of Steel

>>723014646
As cool as it would be and as much as I want it, TC won't put a big brawler character as their next MC. Realistically he'd tower over most bugs and it would be pretty retarded if the story was that he just happened to go to a place with giant bugs.

ZAMN!!!!

>>723015319
we can't be gay for this nigga he's too tall. he's more likely to be a heavy in smash than the protag of a nimble platformer where your foes are meant to to tower over the player

>>723015497
Maybe he'll play differently.
Like he'll have a crouch command with different moves attached to it.
Besides, they can probably shrink him SOMEWHAT. So long as he's just the biggest of the 3 it can be sold that way.

i found the characters voices annoying, specially seth and shakra

DAMNATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>723015138
Okay shitter

Shakra fags: This is your reminder that your waifu is a jeet

>>723011908
Silksong is a hydrogen bomb. Hades 2 is a coughing baby.

>>723015803
No shit dumbass.
Her name is literally Chakram and she uses Chakrams

>>722996634
So who were Dusk Knight and the King's Golem?

>Enter Pharloom godhome
>"Pantheon of the Witch"
>"Do Pantheon of Pharloom while cursed"
How do (you) respond?

>>723016067
They were combined into a single enemy, the Kingsmould

>>723016291
Still better than doing Pantheon of Hallownest with all bindings

>>723016436
Those aren't even bosses.

I am disappointed she doesn't have pointy hips in the final game like the promo art.

>>723016531
Correct, they either ran out of time or ideas so they just combined what they had.

>>723002953
it's true, no new HK game for the next 10-15 years

>>722996634
>For an extra 6000 dollars, they spent nearly a decade working on a sequel

>>722990634
If you do his missions at the right time, he will survive his pilgrimage up to the Citadel, where you have to save him one last time, but after being taken back to Pharloom he'll spend the rest of the game in a lethargic, almost catatonic state due to having his faith shattered from seeing what his exemplars really are and what they do with lesser beings like himself.

And no he doesn't sing anymore.

>>723016291
That's fine, people enjoy whatever they like.
I know my limits, that's past my limit.

>>723016962
He literally becomes the new caretaker of Songclave and sings you a unique song if you go to him before facing the last boss.

His whole arc is his innocence is lost but not his purity.

>>722989530
GURUMA

>>723015637
What if I want to play a tall bro

>>723019314
>>723015637
>HK's game comes out but it's a beat-em-up instead that focuses mainly on combat instead of nimble platforming
Based or cringe?

>>723020752
Would be based, I'm cool with TC stretching out and doing more than the same thing.

I want to see Hornet Lace and Shakra scissor trib fight.

>>723015319
anon, he gets killed off by hornet at the end of HK
https://youtu.be/NnQcle-WBVc?si=fBnj-N202KvYRvyA&t=60

>>723015697
drip status: CONFIRMED.

>>722994193
I hope not. Lace is almost as forced as that Horizon chick. What a shit character.

>>722994193
Team Cherry blatantly wants it to be Lace. She's borderline Poochie-tier in how much Silksong tries to push her as the next Hornet.

>>723016962
how can a carapace sweat?

>>722994193
second sentinel is the only character and design that interest me enough, even if the sprite size in this game is bigger than hornet
>>722996660
lace is already fully explored. There is no mystery, and no point in having a game about her

Bros, these blowdart monkey bugs in Bilewater are pretty fucking cancer

>won flea bounce
>won flea dodge
just flea juggle and so far its been pretty fun playing with the fleas AND i get free booze

>>723015697
isnt this that twitter meme

>>723022830

I still can't believe how little TC gave Lace screentime to build up her character and motivations. It's one of the biggest problems in Silksong which could have easily been fixed by simply making more scenes for her, and this game doesn't suffer from lack of content

Is Second Sentinel supposed to be male or female? This is a very important question for my penis.

>i-it's a robot it's doesn't have a gender!

Twelfth Architect is clearly female.

what is this ledge for?

>Get three needle upgrades before Act 3 begins
>Enemies die at what feels like a good number of hits, starts feeling like Hollow Knight again because I can count how many hits it takes to kill an enemy
>Act 3 begins and the RNG Abyss enemies start spawning
>Start losing count of how many hits it takes to kill an enemy again
Aaaah I hate it.

>>723023541
For you to look at it and wonder "What is this ledge for?"

Real answer: probably something that was cut when the Coral are got the axe

>>722989491 (OP)
I pop an 'strogen every time I get a game over :3

Is there any youtoube video explaining all the symbolism and mottiffs of the game? I'm too stoopid to get it

>>723023487
She's one of the few people who have no character arc in the entire game. And she's a major character, they could even lean more into her brat bullshit and have her show up only to make fun of you, but she's neither really present nor compelling

>>723023950
This isn't really a game of narrative character arcs. Most characters are set in their ways. It's more so you learn about them as the game goes on.

>>723023497
female
sherma is also female, i don't care what they call her she acts and looks female

>>723023497
male
the architect is also male

>>723024089
Yeah it's only Sherma and Hornet herself who have an arc

The Chinese art for this game is so good

>>723023497
if i made a robot body, id opt for a female voice for the social edge in getting shit out of retard male bugs thinking with their dicks

>>723024390
second sentinel has a small arc

>>723010862
it's a needle and a clapper, two of the most common objects of the game

Stupid lore question, but didn't Hollow Knight have it be that the Pale King was the being that gave bugs sentience? And if you left Hollownest, you lost your sentience? Was that just pure delusion on my part?

>>723014196
The juggling became much easier when I started to just remain on the ground instead of jumping to prehit the fleas. I also used wanderer and the high slash rate saved me a few times.

It was also pretty fun. I like all the minigames desu.

>>723025358
Only some bugs, mostly the beetles. Moths and mantises were already sentient.

>>723025358
Pale Being have the gift of sentience. Once they give someone sentience they stay like that and breed more sentient beings.

Where things get a little fuzzy is if Pale Beings are the ONLY way lower caste bugs get sentience.
The Radiance made the Moths and GMS made the Weavers.

But this brings to question other types of bugs with their own distinct cultures like the ants/Skarr in Hunters March. Did the ant's evovle naturally or was their a Pale Being that made them before even GMS? They were the older civilization before pharloom took over, whose to say they didn't have their own God that came and went like many others.

>>723023254
>won
against whom?

>>722990690
>>722994193
there won't be an hk3, at least for a very long time. many of (You) unironically won't make it
after all the dlc releases, TC will be moving on to new IP

>>723025171
i only know of one needle in silksong, you're thinking of pins
>>723025380
i did it with shamans+ only attacked forwards never up. Flee doging was harder

>>723026393
kratt

Tra ni ja ni
Ni ger fa get
Ki lli yu rs elfi
Wi th no re gret

>>723027295
you'll get to go for round 2 then later on

>>723003149
void correction*

>>722996660
>building up Lace
Sherma has more screen time than her, and a more developed character arc. I like Lace, but she's currently a blank slate. she would work amazingly for a protag tho.

>>722991946
>T. Angry tranny stuck on act 1

Reminder Hornet is basically the in-universe equivalent of a half-dragon.

>>723014653
I think The Unraveled's actual hitbox is a bit larger than his sprite would suggest. I bumped into him so often that it was just weird and unexplainable

>>723016950
I'm excited for them to make a Tuniclike

>>723012970
Mt Fay is piss easy when you realize 99% of the platforming is just hitting clawline qtes and you don't have to think about anything else except for the singular jump where you have to walljump towards a set of spikes the proper amount so that you make it over a same-side spike top wall without hitting the spikes you're jumping towards. That's the only possible fumble point aside from the one first-time jape where the cold protection is slightly hidden within a breakable wall

>>723031361
STFU nigger tranny

>>723031423
I accept your concession, filtered shitter.

why doesn't the Hollow knight make an appearance

>>722997150
>i asked the crack addict den whether thought thought crack was bad, and they said no

>>722996660
>Team Cherry just spent a whole game building up Lace
?
The main complaint is that she's barely in the game so act 3 being all about her feels unearned. How on earth did they spend "a whole game building up Lace" are you living in some imaginary yuri land?

>>723011594
I beat the gauntlets and the boss first try

how fucking bad are people at videogames, holy shit

I hope the DLCs give us more cheap Hollow Knight fanservice, regardless if it makes lore sense or not, DS3 style. Bring back the Radiance but now she's red and has a bajillion phases and 30 projectiles on screen at once.

>>723011198
What is it about certain art that you just know it was drawn by a troon?

>>723025906
Didn't Quirrel lose his sentience when he first Hallownest?

>>723035092
I literally basedjacked when the Vessel ® and the Shade Lord ® showed up, it was KINO

>>723035154
>he first Hallownest?

he first left Hallownest*

>>723035154
>>723035210
Given how many higher beings are total cockmonglers, it seems that the Pale King's job was to keep assholes like GMS and Radiance OUT where they can't fuck with the mind of the bugs. When he left he likely fell under the influence of one.

>>722989491 (OP)
theories for boss rush? are the godseekers coming back? or is there gonna be some different fuckery going on? my bet is on some kind of memory world, it happens a lot in-game so probably going to involve it at some dlc...
hopefully it also revives sands and bilewater to their prime

UHaaaAaaaaaaaaaAaAaAarrrgh

>>723014447
I never touched Wanderer under LL
And then I started doing well against LL

>>722994193
A game about Lace where she starts as the insufferable brat from silksong and grows into an actual heroic character could be good if written well.

She's a character with immense self-hatred and existential angst who has suddenly been given her own lease on life.

>>723035732
Coral Tower was clearly intended to be a proper area not just a brutal gauntlet, I hope it'll be brought back in DLC

>>723035781
images you can hear
I wish Makoto did an interview or something

> MY SWORD
> swish swish. clang clang.

>>723029230
fus

>>723036503
>brutal gauntlet
They were the easiest gauntlets in tha game
The coral tower was one of the only things I beat first try in this game and I'm a major shitter

>>723029691
It's just that the entirety of his robe counts as a hitbox, even the part that's just trailing behind his body. His hitbox is shaped like a giant triangle that's trailing behind him. They want you to equip the Hunter crest and give him cheeky backshots with the diagonal pogo as he runs past so you avoid his hat and stay airbone. Only, as someone who tried this tactic, it's extremely precise to pull off for just 1x hit and most of your damage ends up coming from just whacking him in the face and retreating.

>>723037274
The invidividual gauntlets were easy, doing three of them with no resting in between was pretty brutal

>>723037274
lol no

>>723003460
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Si_LLIPakQE&pp=ygUcZXlld2l0bmVzcyB0aGVtZSBoZWF2eSBtZXRhbA%3D%3D

full retard mode is a lot of fun when it works
this shit is significantly harder than just avoiding damage and melting shit with threadstorm like I did on my first playthrough

>>723031827
How do you think she'd react

>>723037341
>>723037353
The enemies are not aggressive and you have plenty of opportunities to heal and even get bonus silk between each one
The craw and crust king gauntlets were easy and I say this as someone who struggled on pretty much every other gaunlet in the game. The enemies dont really pose much of a threat and they dont really gang up on you in ways that force you to take damage. They are also pretty easy to read even the first time. There are even "free" waves that let you get a heal without posing any threat within the individual gaunlets.
I didn't use any tools and shit either. The fights are just easy, deal with it.

>>723037461
You really should have uncapped healing with the Beast crest. You whack a mob 6 times? You get 6 hearts. That's your reward for using such an insanely risky playstyle. Them capping your Beast healing at 3 (not including that one charm) is a really weird "NO, this is ONLY for challenge running AND NOTHING ELSE" design decision.

>>723037713
>they dont really gang up on you in ways that force you to take damage.
The conchflies in the half-floor-spikes phase of coral gauntlet 2 is insanely hard to manage unless you spawnkill them with thread storm. Why are you just saying blatantly false shit about how these encounters play out?

>>723014646
i've had that idea too and i've been rolling it around in my head for a few days.
He's kind of a husk character at this point. bound to hallownest. the lingering infection of the radiance has taken its toll on him. I don't think he'd leave hallownest he's like a spectre of hallownest bound and protecting the ruins. We wouldn't want another game in hallownest so the game could be about exploring the abyss which at this point has consumed most of the ruins. only a small initial portion of this game would take place in these ruins and we'd go down below into the abyss to explore a new world. we take extreme artistic liberties crafting a very diverse second world down below with lots of unique biomes but overall themed for darkness filled with bugs that have evolved to survive down there. similar to how in the ocean once we go deep enough, like in the mariana trench, there are fish that can survive the extreme pressure, scarce oxygen, and eternal darkness. similarly the bugs down in the abyss will look very weird. the hollow knight will learn to control the lingering curse of the radiance, thematically turning it on it's head and making this curse and the light a good thing. he uses it in combat as well as in exploration to open new passage ways. in terms of combat I see him as large and lumbering like a claymore build in darksouls but with holy magic.

This took me longer than every other fight in the game besides Karmelita.

>>723038013
This one was hard but I got through it rather quickly with clawline

Reminder that there's at least one retard anon that truly believes that Lace is jealous of Hornet because of his misreading of a couple of lines leading to a schizophrenic headcanon

>>723037859
You've fought dozens upon dozens of conchflies by the time you reach act 3 and they aren't hard if you bumrush to them with either the clawline or dash.

>>723038282
Those particular conchflies appear only during the conchfly2 boss, where they're mostly just stage hazards, and in a single room in Karak. You've practically never fought them before. Are you sure you know what you're talking about? These aren't the same flies you see in Blasted Steps.

>>723038370
Personally, I fought the two drilling conchflies next to the bench in Karak a lot because I found them fun enemies.

>>723012757
In real bugs it's "any hole's a goal". Male bugs will mate with whatever they can find. Female bugs don't have the mental hardware required for mate selection in most cases either. But that's only a general rule. Some bugs are more intelligent than others and actually bother with mate selection.

>>723012970
Absolutely not. Mount Fay, Cogwork Core, and Nameless Village were easy. If White Palace is a 6/10 for difficulty, they're more like a 3/10 or 4/10, and Path of Pain is a 9/10.

>>723037859
Literally just pogo them broseph.

>>722999631
> Just like Karmelita, Sherma has grown large with age, his back arched over.
> Wife some years passed on, sons given up their lives to war.
> Sage Sherma is alone, but has managed some semblance of contentment
> Even if his sight is well on its way to fading
> One day, decades later, he hears limber, hasty footsteps walk in his door.
> “It has been a time. My eyesight is now nothing but blurs at this age…but I would still recognize that shade of red anywhere. And judging by how low it is to the ground, it seems that the Red Maiden has not aged a day.”

>>723038606
Cogwork is a 3/10, Mount Fay and Nameless Village are both 6/10. I spent about the same amount of time on each of those as I spent on White Palace without Hiveblood (about 1.5 hours).

>>723038606
>Path of Pain is a 9/10.
It's a 7 at most even being generous. On a relative scale it's probably a 5,5/10

>>723038106
I was using clawline, but inevitably I would get clapped by some bad RNG in the 2nd phase and have to start all over again.

>Stun GMS
>She's in the debris field

>Try to break floor spikes
>GMS does her 3-hit attack while you're mid-air and can't find a safe spot in time

Fuck this crusty old bitch. I beat her daughter first try just prior, and I beat her on my second try on my first run through.

>>723038905
>Dude Path of Pain is easy, you should check out these meme kaizo Mario Maker levels that's REAL difficulty

>>723038905
Nah, Path of Pain reminds me of IWBTG. It's way up there in terms of platforming difficulty, but still very doable. It's, at minimum, an 8/10 in terms of an objective difficulty scale

Is there anything hidden in the upper part of Cogwork Core?
I just got the melody (absolute kino btw) and would prefer not to do the buzzsaw room again

>>723038905
>On a relative scale
Relative to what

>>723038975
POP is barely precision platforming and is fairly generous with checkpoints even without hiveblood

>>723037859
Not those guys, but I used Reaper during my first run through and I didn't run into any trouble in Coral Tower. I used my cogflies and chakrams because you get them refunded when you're out of the dream world.

You could probably cheese them with Architect. Cogflies + Lifeblood + Tacks. Easy squeezy.

>>722989491 (OP)
tranny character

>>723039054
No, not in that area.

>>722994193
The Hollow Knight would be the most likely choice. Sherma would be the best choice.

>>723037770
uncapped beast crest would be super OP you could facetank almost anything, you can heal up to 4 if you use that blue trinket that increases your healing

>>723039125
Relative to how hard platforming games can get
And I said 5,5 to be generous
It's probably closer to a 4

>>722994193
A fearless fox

Just coming in to say I just beat First Sinner and holy shit I feel incredible that was such a good boss

>>723039142
I saved all my tools for the 3rd gauntlet so I could blast through it without ever really seeing it desu.

>>723039198
>Relative to how hard platforming games can get
Okay but give me names

>>723039281
I might be the only person who wasn't really impressed. She didn't challenge me and I didn't really feel the fight was that interesting otherwise. Does something cool happen if you let her bind thread?

>>723039125
My ass

>>722989530
I'd only be interested in a theoretical english dub if they got Patches' VA for Grindle. Otherwise, no thanks.

>>723023541
For you to look at the big ass tower on the background I guess
>>723035781
>>723036510
I wanted more cool Hornet voicelines desu
The silk skills should have had each their own

>>723038473
Did she died?

>>723039410
Not really, I'm assuming it's a heal

>>722989530
>english dub
???
??????????

>>723039786
It's a joke, a meme.
Also Hollow Knight has a fully voiced dialogue mod.

>lost lace anywhere but dogshit
>normal lace being anywhere but okay
In a game full of swordfighting bosses she was either the least memorable or the hardest for all the wrong reasons.

>>723039704
Just peachy

What exactly were they doing for the last 6 years? This is essentially identical to the final game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQxwbZsL14Y

>>723039808
>lost lace anywhere but dogshit
>normal lace being anywhere but okay
In a game full of swordfighting bosses she was either the least memorable or the hardest for all the wrong reasons.

>>723039918
I'm counting Lace 2 and Savage Beastfly 2 for the list. Lace 2 is actually a great fight, and I liked Lost Lace a lot. I didn't think Lost Lace was --that-- hard. Karmelita took me over 40 tries to beat, Lost Lace just over 10.

>>723039808
>groal
>great

SURELY this is a play on words, right?

>>723039975
>What exactly were they doing for the last 6 years?
Removing content to put in the next game

what type of bug is lace?

>>723039808
Shakra is a terrible fight.
Widow and especially First Sinner should be way higher.

>>723040045
>the game was finished in 2019
>it was double the size
>playtesters took way too long to get through it
>they spent several years just deciding what to cut
new headcanon

>>723040091
the annoying type

>>723040158
there should have been fast travel sooner, with how backtrachy silksong is, it's super annoying to manage bell beast AND the tubes

>>723040091
she isn't

>>723039808
Pinstress is not cool, she's too slow and floaty
Widow, Sinner should be higher
Crust King maybe on cool but not challenging

Also I like Sister Splinter but that's more controversial I feel

>>723039975
>pilby's death and voidnigger enemies were in the fucking announcement trailer

>>723040158
>We don't get a Pharloom version of pick related
What a shame

>>723040336
The fight's a lot better now that her retarded little enemy summons don't deal 2 fucking damage anymore.

>>723040039
Yes

>>723038646
>Wife some years passed on
Sherma's wife is Hornet though

>>723040482
Sherma saw Hornet die during my Whiteward fights so it's only fair Hornet sees him die of old age one day :)

UN SHANKA

>>723040336
Pinstress is cool because of where you fight her and her using the various charged attacks Hornet can use. It's not a hard fight, but everything else about it is great

>>723040597
SHAW
ADIDAS
KIGALI
HaaaAAAA
HUHUH
DIK

GITGUD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0eM-t5stAc

>>723040601
The constant running away and projectile spam made me roll my eyes once I realized exactly what I was in for. Easy boss though since her dash attacks are super punishable.

>>723039808
>tormented trobio
>great
>throws AoD shit every 5 seconds
Sorry, but filling the arena with gay gas shit is anything but great
>the whole "Great fight" row
Every tier list is a shitpost. I get it now

>>723040738
Megina fora.

>>723040158
We need pharloom bay back

>>723040869
Act 4 that lets us rebuild and explore
TRUST

>>723040738
>Hornet in Hollow Knight: "bro don't heal dude just throw out silk arts bro just DPS the boss down dude you don't need to heal if the enemy is dead"
>Gets fucking bodied twice in a row by the Knight
This is canonically why you always prioritize the heal over the damage

>>723040738
I just miss the smug laugh

>>723039704
Ye. He didn't want to pay child support.

>>723012620
Congrats

I wish there was a new game plus so you could play more with some of the crests you get later.

Question about steel soul mode. Does dying in a memory end the run?

>>723041424
Nope.

>>723041424
No, including First Sinner.

>>722996813
>3 masks
so freaking strong I'm getting frustrated

>>723040757
Tormented Trobbio is an amazing fight though. I beat him without max masks or damage and used the Reaper Crest. He's challenging AND fun AND cool.

>hate git gudders
>hate rollslop
>thought hollow knight was too hard at points
>Finally picked this up
>Its great.
>Its not even harder than HK so far
Why is /v/ always lying to me about vidya? First try I beat Lace and Fourth Chorus. I think False Knight (first boss in HK) was harder than any of the bosses so far. I heard complaints about contact damage but Hornet seemingly hits from further away so it seems an improvement over HK.
>mfw ppl actually needed to git gud
>mfw gaslighted by git gudders claiming rollslop ring is good
>falsely assumed hard games must suck now
If this was a Souls game it's basically sidescroller Sekiro. Instead of rollslop you actually have tons of options and manuvers, it's great. When does it get bullshit?

>>723041558
>hey guis im 20% thru the game lol :d

pls be bait

>>723041439
>>723041482
Seems an oversight

>>723041558
Silksong is way harder than Hollow Knight. I replayed Hollow Knight in the 2 weeks between Silksong's release date announcement and it dropping and I was still getting my ass kicked quite frequently in Silksong.

>>723041647
more like 8%

>>723041558
See you in a couple of days when you rage quit on Last Judge.

>>723041683
No, intentional, for the same reason why Steel Soul in HK doesn't count Dream deaths except White Palace and Radiance.

>>723041647
>>723041737
So how far away does the filtering happen?

ZAMN

>>723041876
lil bro might even get filtered by Moorwing or Sister Splinter

>>723041876
Most peoples' first complaints (besides Skull Brute doing 2 damage) was trying to do Hunter's March and Chapel of the Beast as soon as they could. Moorwing and Sister Splinter had some complaints, more people complained about Last Judge's runback than the boss itself.

>>723041558
I've said it many times but HK combat was just bad so it played horrible when they tried to make it "hard". Silksong combat is good so if you enjoy videogames it just werks. But either way act 1 is just a warmup, act 2 is fairly standard difficulty, and the only actual challenging fights are in act 3

>>723041693
Same, the hunter pogo fucked with my muscle memory so hard I seriously considered dropping the game for a week or two just to let the muscle memory decay away again before trying again.

>>723038646
>word words words
>implying old Sherma wouldn't just bust out his ding dongles and start singing.

>>723041935
Imagine her tap dancing.

>>723041876
For me, it was Act 3 that filtered me. Karmelita is no joke harder than Nightmare King Grimm.

>>723042065
Hollow Knight's combat is fine. The amount of wacky shit you can pull off when you really understand how the movement works is insane. Silksong was made from the ground up to make doing all that shit really clunky at the very least, if not downright impossible, because they saw youtube clips of speedrunners killing gruz mother in 10 seconds after putting 10,000 hours into the game and got super upset this was even possible at all. They aren't the first dev team to do this, nor will they be the last, but it never ever works out well to fall for this brainrot.

>>723010198
Where is the /ss/ Sherma x Hornet doujin?

>>723042269
Doujins usually take ~2 months to produce. Silk Song has been out for 5 weeks.

>>723042269
that guy that did the Bug Fables doujin would be my hero if he did more bug fuckery

>>723042214
She'll take you 15 attempts top if you just parry

>Boss Seth
>By Seth Goldman
Couldn't even stretch the imagination a little bit bro?

>>723042415
He's literally some Make-A-Wish kid's self-insert before he died from cancer.

>>723042415
>boss Trobbio
>by Matthew Trobbio

>>723042464
>cancer kid makes cancer fight
Makes sense

>>723042215
>>723042065
Only thing that bothered me is the dash. Its like this "blocky" dash for lack of a better term. Can't cancel. Can't dash shorter or longer distances if you hold the button. You will always move exactly this amount of space with no gravity or momentum or other factors ever. It just feels weird, never got used to it. Add the way the shade cloak isnt active every dash and it gets even weirder

>>723040370
Legitimately what did they spend 6 years on, 80% of the game is in the 2019 trailer

>>723042386
>bug fables doujin
sauce pls

>>723012970
Nothing about this game is hard
its all about patience and learning early game how to 45 degree bounce

>>723042505
If anything, Seth shows that having a shield is a great idea and Hornet's stupid for not using one.

>>723042587
6 years to tweak the AI of every enemy so they can always move out of the way of your attack and into the place where you're dashing or jumping :^)

God-damn, this game was fucking easy

>>723040370
I somehow didn't even learn Pilby's name before he died despite talking to him everytime.
Also my Garmond just died and now i feel sad

>>723042626
https://exhentai.org/g/3427906/6b84271644/ bug

>>723042694
He's .... just resting a bit......

>>723042565
Hornet's dash behaves the same way though, the only way to affect the distance is to convert the dash into a dash attack and hit something

>>723042678
you beat the game

>>723042694
Zanzibart...

>>723042678
Do not get angry at this.
Do not get angry at this.
Do not get angry at this.

>>723042505
KEK

>>723042740
Might be the fact the speed and distance and character size is different. It has a flip animation that finishes it off in the air too. And no Shade Cloak? It feels more like a quick step and doesn't bother me.

>>723042678
Not only did you beat the game, you fucking dominated it. You made it your fucking bitch. You tied it down and raped it to goddamn death. And you enjoyed every second of it.

>>723041558
Fourth Chorus and Lace aren't hard, you're right about that. That didn't stop a lot of casuals being filtered by them and some of the following bosses

>>723042678
Stupid fuck.

You could easily have more pouch space and a few kits so that the game is even easier.

>>723042214
finished it in 3 tries but took hours at juggling fleas

>>722996634
I remember one anon was posting recently about zote having a shellwood sword and this could mean he is being nerfed by the same tentacle parasite from silksong.
Could be kino if true

>>722990634
There's this bad ending where hornet becomes his obedient concubine, and violently breeds her.

>>723043362
The more common theory is that he is the son of Greyroot.
>One of his precepts talks about mothers betraying you
>His dream boss title is Grey Prince
>Shares the same look as The Knight and other children of the White Lady, another root creature
>And the obvious Shellwood connection

>>723043321
Flea games (non-Seth) took me about an hour and a half for all of them. Karmelita took me double that.

GMS made the weavers, thought "ew why do they look like that," then made lace to be a little doll person instead

>>723042678
I wish Poison Pollip sucked less.

It does just enough damage to make an already bullshit red tool better, but it isn’t enough damage to make a shit red tool good.

>>723041558
>sidescroller sekiro
Not only the fact they're not even comparable. Nine Sols exists.
This really must be bait. I'm not even going to cover the rest of this shit post

>>723043321
The flea juggle is not hard
Do people jump like retards or something?

>>723043362
>Team Cherry releases patches for both Hollow Knight and Silksong in the same day that releases Zote mode, a mode that gives you a significant amount of lore and a nerfed moveset for playing as Zote
>ends up like a FF3 onion Knight where he starts outclassing The Knight and Hornet in the final 10% of the rame

>>723043490
Actually interesting.
Also like hornet and the hollow knight/ghost/vessels and other white beings apparently, he doesn't seem to have a mask but his entire face/skull is his mask.

>>723043490
I actually prefer to think that Zotes connection to Greyroot is she parasitized him too


So the shitty Zote we met was just stuck on cursed crest and it left him a biased against single mothers.

>>723042678
Gigabased tool enjoyer.

is lace a mesugaki

>>723042678
Making Papa Pale King fuckin proud Hornet.

>>723042786
Funnily enough, the trailer showed that he had this voice line years before the borderlands/shazamtranny forced meme was a thing.

>pick Wanderer with Longclaw
>credits start rolling

>>723043774
>Zote is actually really powerful but cursed
Interesting

>>723043861
Does she fill you with a desire to correct her attitude?

>>723043967
I’m just saying, maybe he is the Grey Prince in a very literal sense and he is whatever is left of the displaced culture once in that location that wasn’t Weaver aligned.

Zotes shitty little fate mirrors what Green Prince was left to wallow in, which was literal nothingness in place of what was his home.

I used cogflies with poison to beat certain bosses
I used the wanderers crest with the dice
I beat the game

What happens to Pilby when he leaves the Far Fields area? I genuinely don't know where he goes afterwards.

>>723044086
I used the glitch where if you get hit while casting Silk Storm with Shaman Crest it becomes a permanent aura around you.

I also beat the game.

>>723044086
If you got to the Act 3 credits, you beat the game.

>>723039975
>He doesn't know how game development goes
You do the START and FINISH and then you make the rest of the game
What they showed in the trailer wasn't actual gameplay but a mere vision of what they had in mind, more of an animation if anything

Important question. Does Nuu ever get to taste Hornet?

>>723038473
>mates with her
>just fucking yeets her after
nature is wonderful.

>>723043861
An eternal one, yes. She's roughly as old as Hornet, and Hornet is an old lady.

>>723044196
He doesn't go anywhere, he disappears and has no further interactions. He doesn't even have a corpse like Mort or Lumble, or Haunted like Pebb.

This game series is just for people with no life, no job, nothing to do but waste time "overcoming" a challenging and tedious video game instead of being a functional human being in real life. YWNBAB.

>>723042214
She's not even close to the hardest boss
Fucking hate Beastfly round 2.

>>723044452
Unless he's part of the DLC, that's pretty disappointing.

>>723043964
Wanderer with Longclaw is actually incredibly broken in all fights except for the actually hard ones. I'd rather stick with Reaper or Architect for something like Karmelita or Lost Lace. When the Pantheons come out and we get shit like Twin Sister Splinters or Lost-er Lace, I'm going to use one of the actually busted crests.

>>723044495
>YWNBAB
You Will Never Be A... Baby? Bitch? Banana?

I used Hunter crest for combat and overall world exploration until I got too pissed off at a platforming section and switched to Wanderer so I'd be allowed to play the game in a not-gimped fashion. TC, if you're reading this, stop buffing Hunter's damage rampup. Nobody cares. The damage is fine. If you want people to use Hunter, give it a downward pogo. Let neutral down be a down-pogo, and side down be a diagonal pogo. Make it the only crest in the game that has both pogos. Now everyone will love your crest.

>>723044540
On my 2nd playthrough right now. Savage Beastfly 2 took me 3 tries, more than every other boss except for Parasite GMS so far. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that even going into Karmelita prepared, she'll probably still take me 6 - 7 tries.

>>723044650
I used no tools on Karmelita and still did it in about 4 tries, she's a great boss but she's not that hard
Beastfly round 2 is not that hard either except when the ad ons show up to spit on your cereal, I hate them so much I couldn't come up with a more vile creature.

>>723044196
>>723044452
>>723044541
Definitely getting DLC vibes. Maybe he makes a wrong turn somewhere and accidentally stumbles upon that cut mollusk village from the trailer. Or maybe Steel Assassin Sharpe murks him in a dark corner of the map.

>>723044751
Pilby was meant to die

>>723044558
Karmelita is easy with Wanderer, it's arguably the fastest way to beat her since you'll damage her fast enough to send her to her next phase. That and you can parry her melee attacks and attack a few times before she blocks. That stun + the phase shift roar let's you attack so many times you're basically halfway to the next phase. Then you do the same thing, spam poison cogflies, and you win.

>>723044541
>>723044751
DLC would be dumb because he's easily killed. They probably only included him in Pilgrim's Rest as an easter egg but he fucking died in the announcement trailer. Maybe he could've shown up as a resident of Bellhart after you free it if he's still alive, but he's not some important guy.

>>723044364
She tastes her hand.

>>723044572
Bug

>>723044747
The adds are definitely bullshit. I figured out on my 2nd playthrough to go get clawline and double jump first so I could just focus them down. Took me much fewer tries, especially with Conch Cutter taking them out after a clawline

There's no preparing for Karmelita other than getting max masks and damage.

>>723044434
Allegedly that only happens because the female beetles are supposed to burrow to the roots of the trees and lay eggs, basically makes it so none of the other males on the tree can have sex with her. So they give them a shortcut to the ground.

>>723044864
Karmelita is an endurance fight. She has as much HP as Nightmare King Grimm (1500) in a game without Fragile Strength AND she blocks half your attacks. There are only 2 bosses with more HP: Crust King Khann (1650) and Lost Lace (1800).

Grand Mother Silk has 1204, for reference, and you can just wail on her since she just floats there and doesn't have contact damage. Karmelita is a fight you have to pace yourself on, especially since her punishes are brutal.

>>723044747
>>723044997
Beastfly 2 is a gear check. Can you oneshot his adds with a silk art? If not, come back later. If you can, he's not that bad. I think a lot of seething over Beastfly 2 comes from people who fought him without enough nail upgrades since you can make that quest appear on the board really early.

>>722994193
Why couldn't it be a new character?

>>723044647
Are you sure you're just not retarded?
Pogo with hunter's crest isn't hard.

>>723045154
That's definitely the case for me.
>>723044997
Yeah, I did Karmelita after I was done with most of the game, I only found her location after beating Lost Lace, so I was admittedly over prepared.

Is Lace supposed to be this easy?

When I realized entering Krust King Kahn's memory didn't restore Sands of Karak right after it was silked up in the past or something I started crashing out. I was seathing. I was raging.

>>723045120
When each strike with max upgrades does 21, the stunned animation gives about 4/5 strikes and her roar lets you do 5/6 strikes, it's not really farfetched to say that an aggressive play style where you hit her about two times with a crest that attacks that fast after each of her attacks that builds up stun quickly is more than enough to chain the effects together. Her fight is actually far worse for the people who try to play too defensively, and encourages you lay on damage quickly.

>>723045415
>Is Architect supposed to be this braindead?
Yes

>>723045415
Architect with some kits and pouches and poison is kryptonite for most bosses in the game. The only thing that doesn't make it completely busted is the game expects you to play through half of it before you have the amount of tools needed to buy the key for it.

>>723045415
wanderer was piss easy too. architect and wanderer are the shitters crutch. i started again around lace 2 because i'd been maining wanderer the entire time and felt guilty and ashamed. now i'm slowly learning hunter and it has been a blast.

>>723012970
Mt Fay wasn't bad at all, just don't let the time limit get to your head and do the platforming like you always do, they made sure you have enough time to get to the next heat source even if you tarry a bit. The nameless village climb on the other hand... My teeth were rattling from frustration when I finally made it to the top, mainly because I kept dying to the centipedes while trying to farm them for silk at that final part.

I feel like if I was better not taking hits, Shaman crest with Thread Storm and Volt Filament would be stupidly good.

>>723045759
"We nerfed that in the new patch" - Team Cherry

>>723045793
Ah, my favorite. The classic "Let's nerf strategies in a single player game"." Got me again.

>>723045759
>Shaman crest with Thread Storm and Volt Filament
This is indeed the speedrun meta when you can assume you aren't getting hit. And since you can get Volt Vilament really early in Act 2, it's any other crest with that same filament+storm combo.

>>723045793
>>723045926
There's literally nothing wrong with nerfing thread storm. There's no reason for it to do double damage compared to the other silk skills. Options are a good thing, less so when there's one right answer

>>722989491 (OP)
>go to Grindles shop
>his fellow thieves hid away when they notice me coming
>buy some shit
>after doing this a few times, notice his lackeys aren't scared of me anymore when I walk in
Thought this was a really cool detail.

>>723045986
Why not buff the others and give more of a reason to encourage their use? Thread Storm doesn't give any invincibility, you can easily get hit before a hit gets off.

>>723046090
Anon, that's stupid. They already do plenty of damage, thread storm does absurd damage. Thread storm already has a reason, it's the aoe one (well along with rune rage) since you can attack all around you. It shreds adds

I went to do a second playthrough to do content I missed and I have to say the game is boring as fuck. Guess I'll wait a few years for it to fade from memory before a replay.

>>723042740
No it doesn't, Hornet's dash has gravity, it also has momentum so her speed doesn't instantly go back to 0 once the dash animation is over.

>>723044751
*gaijin lmao, too tired to type engrish right now

>>723042565
The HK dash feels exactly like something from a "My First 2D Platformer" tutorial.

>>723046336
That just makes it less responsive. It's the same fixed distance it's just not as flexible to use in the air and not as recoverable on the ground. Meaning it's got more downsides while changing nothing about the "brick" behavior being complained about.

I rarely used the dash after I got the clawline. I would have happily traded it for a dedicated glide button.

>>723045415
Are you supposed to be this trans?

>>723047731
Cry more

>>723046965
What are you talking about? "Blocky" is just meant that Ghost's dash is just a completely immutable unit with no freedom. It's the exact same distance and works exactly the same in the air so if you need it for any purpose than the exact movement that it provides you have to force your normal movement to compensate for its lack of variety.
Hornet gets a special air dash that you can immediately cancel and keep short if you don't need that much distance. She has a bit of startup on a grounded dash, but after the short startup you get put into a run state allowing you to control exactly when you want to stop, use a special unique dash attack if you want, transition your run into a jump to keep your run momentum, even do running turnarounds. Since there's no retarded cooldown on her dash and has adjustable length, you can dash the exact distance you need to dodge an attack, stop on a dime, and dash back in immediately. You can even air dash straight down to quick fall. Hornet's sprint skill alone has more movement options available to her than Ghost's entire kit

>>723046090
They did, but also Thread Storm is by far the easiest to hit aside from silk spear (which is probably the best anyways). Cross stitch and sharpdart got damage buffs, and pale nails and silk spear were always good. It's only rune rage that's irredeemably shit at this point

>>723046090
>>723048725
And just to be clear, Witch heal attack with flintslate, dual mirrors, barbed bracelet, and multibinder all stacked is one of the most damaging single attacks you can perform.
It does 222 damage
A single Shaman Volt Filament Thread Storm does 216

>>723049116
Are you sure flintslate and the barbed bracelet apply to the witch bind?
I'm skeptical, everywhere else I've seen says they only apply to actual nail hits, not anything that scales off nail damage.

seeing all the regular bugs on the very surface of the whole world was one of the coolest moments imo

game kind of sucks because it eventually ends imo

>True end (i think)
I was expecting Hornet would start laughing with Lace at the end. Probably breaks her character but would've been cute.

>>722989530
>dubfag has literally 20 IQ
Shocker
>>723039904
>I was pretending to be retarded
Wow, dumb as rocks AND you have no balls

>>722991995
What hornet did before her game is HER business. Be better.

>Clover Dancers
>right before it, Hornet says to the Green Prince that he should've expected to fail and it's okay his kingdom died because it was inevitable
What the fuck Hornet?

>>723049456
Well, shit I must have tested wrong before. I guess witch heal is the only non silk attack that doesn't count for flintslate (despite doing 1x nail damage each hit). That would make the multibinder witch mirrors down to around 150, barb flint witch charge attack is the next best at 180, and shaman filament thread storm is at 205 (my math was wrong before on all accounts since stacked modifiers are additive)
Now that my original point of buffmaxxed witch heal only barely being able to compete doesn't really work in a comparison though so there's no real comparison to be had

i wish yellow tools were better...

>>723051625
I think the witch bind is basically just a silk skill in terms of damage calculation, but I haven't tested it thoroughly or anything
One kinda disappointing thing is how much work the mirrors are doing for it, the bind on its own isn't even that strong considering how limiting it is, and they're not even actually that good with it. On other crests, multibinder+mirrors gets you two procs as the two halves of the heal go off so even normal crests can do ~120 damage per bind, while still healing normally if enemies aren't in range. It does take forever without injector band though, and you might lose a little damage depending on how they made the mirror damage ticks stack.

jesus christ can Nuu be any more clear about where to go

>>722989491 (OP)
He looks like a dildo salesman.

shit game
piss game
anyone who likes thsis hit neds tohe die

>>723052057
I mean injector band is basically a must on witch as well and makes it blisteringly fast, multibinder doesn't add that much too so the benefit to witch heal over multibinder mirror injector normal heals is that on Witch you're using 2/4 blue slots for that effect and other crests have to use all of their blue slots on it. Other crests would also need a stun's worth of an opening to get that off even with bands but Witch can just fit that shit in any time.
The real reason to play witch is the triple hit dash attack though that shit slaps

>>723051893
Yellow being ass is a given, I feel. those tools feel like "put these in the last notch(s) in HK" tier charms and the effects aren't too different, (excluding silkspeed,barb and dice because they're decent)
>compass
wayward
>magnet
gathering
>weighted belt
steady body
>thief mask
greed charm
The better charms equivalent got bump into blue tools/or merged into a crest instead. It sounds very dumb but It's.. actually bad by design. again excluding silkspeed,barb and dice

SHAW

>>723051482
>Hmmm. An actual civilization with beautiful architecture and advanced technology?
>I knew it. Only a pale (white) being could accomplish something like this.
Hornet... That's kinda problematic...

>>723053591
But she was right?

>>723052476
sand guy?

>>723051482
The whole verdania section is just so fucking out of place its funny.

>>723053853
Hornet is super respectful through the rest of the game, only to rip their hearts out for giggles? It just feels so abrupt.

>>723051482
In literally any other context (and really, in this one too) Hornet would be considered a total /pol/cel based on her words and actions in the game.
And that's hilarous.

>>723054105
People defend it by saying oh he wanted to die. But I thought the first game taught us that granting that wish was the bad end like with nailsmith. Thought maybe that really is a difference between Hornet and the knight.

>>723054421
>>723054421
She goes back to her old self.
If I can kill you, you deserve to die

>>723054105
I didnt really care much for the final dialogues, but werent they something like
>Please leave me alone i'm grieving
>K
>Enter needolin dreamshtick
>Entire verdania is gayhopper showing horny his kingdom and how he can't remember stuff
>Make him remember stuff
>He fucks his twin brother
>Then HE challenges horny to a fight so he can show her the true power of gay incest
>Then HE sudokus like carmelita and horny takes the heart as a prize

>>723054421
To be fair, bro was depressed and devoid of purpose in every interaction.
>Just die then lol - Hornet

>>723045415
The only boss I first-tried besides Moss Mother.

>>723054421
It's so abrupt i expect it to be changed considering she's meant to be going against her wyrm / weaver "dominate the weak" nature or w/e in act 3. People will just keep brininging it up over and over

>>723054591
Why does she take the ballsack heart and put it in her house like a trophy? Why didn't she just bury it or whatever funeral thing bugs do

>>723054738
I think Hornet is just sometimes an asshole. What can one say about her racist fly entries? Odd things to say about literal slaves.

>>723054758
>whatever funeral thing bugs do
drop it down the hole in bone bottom?

>>723054591
If he was fucking his brother it'd be EXTREMELY weird to make his story something you should feel bad about with the Cogwork Dancers n shit. when they were cutting content and repurposing assets, his story was probably changed. It's prob an oversight

>>723045415
I feel kinda stupid trying to git gud at the drill moveset now. Didn't realize it was the cheese crest

>>723054880
>Never get jailed in the game
>Enter the Slab
>Her diary is still about how she wants to kill them all

>>723054880
She just hates smelly things

>>723054880
>racist fly entries
>if you call ugly and smelly things what they are, ugly and smelly
>you are le racist
ok saar

>>723055082
Did you skip over the part where I mentioned they were slaves?

>>723055082
pale king raised hornet to be a chud. is it that hard to believe?

>>723054880
ask me how i know your T is low and you're a left-leaning faggot

It's cute that Lace warns you to Nigero and her favorite anime is Frieren during her boss fight

>>723056148
haha le wholesome chungus keanu 100 to you too sir

>>723001837
really hope we get to exterminate him and his species in the act 4 DLC

I finally got 100% and beat Lost Lace.
Jesus FUCK was she hard. I've cleared phase 1 so many times, I started no-hitting that phase.
Now phase 2, that's where most of my attempts died. All the visual noise flying around makes it hard to keep up with the bitch, and those vacuum counters are nearly impossible to dodge. My final trip into phase 3, I just KNEW it was the run. I had plenty of health, my trusty cogflies, and silk to spare. It was an uphill battle, and I was nearly dead, I didn't have enough silk to heal, but I had enough for a single thread storm. Caught her as she rose up to shoot her void sawblade traps, and it was barely enough to bring her HP down to zero. First time I physically popped off at a game in years. BRAVO
This game was peak, and I enjoyed it start to finish. 66 hours to full completion.
My favorite bosses were Trobbio, Phantom, Seth, and Cogwork Dancers. Such fun fights all.
FUCK beating Seth's minigame scores though. Thank fuck that doesn't count toward 100%

>>723054937
This game literally has a quest where Hornet gets impregnated. Why would you think that incest is an oversight?

>>723015439
I'd love if they called it Hollow Knight: Steel Soul, but Silksong already took the /ss/ initials.

>>723012970
I found all the platforming very manageable. Cradle to the Surface was my favorite gauntlet. First tried it.
Though, I am a precision platforming savant who plays kaizo hacks for fun, so my skills and opinions are biased toward the enjoyment of difficult movement puzzles

>>723054105
Carmelita dialogue as the 4th heart is also retarded

>>723058334
Congrats bro, I just did the same thing. I kept getting to Phase 2 and 3, took me the longest out of any fight. That final fight and killing her with one mask left was fucking magical. Overall pretty happy with the game, will definitely come back to it.

>>723010198
GIWTWM

>>723042505
I feel like the only one who genuinely enjoyed Seth's battle. He is very fair, and his telegraphs and openings are very easy to absorb and capitalize on. He is fundamentally a bait and punish boss that rewards methodical spacing and patience. Don't just rush him down expecting free damage. You gotta match his flow. The fight is a dance with a clear tempo

>>723059664
People also forget there's a tool that pierces guards/shields, which helps you a fair bit for his fight.

>>723051056
Smartest newfag

>>723059664
Yeah he was a very easy boss once you figure out his patterns. I feel like a lot of complaints about this game are like that