Thread 722993168

>>723021127
lmao

>>723021313
ChadGPT

It's an arranged marriage. The man also doesn't get to choose who he ends up with.
It's not like women are all wonderful prizes. More often than not the man was the one who got a raw deal.

>>722993667
I would switch places with them any day.

>>722993831
Why exactly are arranged marriages bad, anyway? I fucking wish they were a thing so I could get a wife directly without partaking in the whole online dating humiliation ritual.

いただきます

Man the combat in this game is fucking ass, is it worth powering through for the story or the 2deep4u? Im at the school, original plan was to play it twice for the full exkkpgperience but the combat is way too fucking dogshit, and thats from someone that had fun at Homecoming.

>>722996774
>disco elysium player is a retarded onlyfans consumer
sounds about right

>>723022320
You're a fucking incel. That's the difference.

>>722993831
bait, but what exactly is bad about getting to marry someone that loves you, looks good and has money?

>>723022320
Depends on the type of arranged marriage.
Japanese arranged marriage was basically a tinder with parental supervision, even with "profiles" that were folders with your photos in them, some stuff about your personality and whatnot. You'd look at it, see if the person interested you, then relay to your parents who would relay to the matchmaker. Then if person interested you, you went on dates with either parental supervision or by yourselves and both of you had the choice to back out at any time before deciding to go through with it.
Jeet and muslim arranged marriage leaves no choice, so I get being against those ones.

>>723022615
>is it worth powering through for the story or the 2deep4u?
God, no
I hope you like hitstuns

>>723023090
That japanese tinder thing sounds comfy as fuck. Let my parent do all the heavy lifting of marketing me to potential partners.

>>723022949
Would you marry someone you don't love?

>>722993351
tactical trvke

>>723023708
Hinako expresses her love for Kotoyuki even after the wedding is cancelled. What is your point here? Unfair comparison, no?

>>722993515
Being a sucker is for cucks not for men
Living up to society/womens standards just to be rewarded a temporary mid 7/10 30+ year old wife is being a sucker which is why young men rightfully say "fuck no" to that deal

>>723023874
Apparently she doesn't love him enough to marry him lol

>>722993351
Yep.
Can you imagine this game getting regular Heather threads 22 years later? I can't.

>>723020690
That's because the only counter to the unvarnished truth is a comfortable lie.
And that, only causes problems in the long run.

>>723024038
The mere existance of silent hill 3 makes them seethe so much because they can't use the "you only hate it cuz it's a woman" card.

>>723023708
Because they paid off all her father's debts and can bought a lifetime's worth of cancer medication for my sick mother. His is also kind and caring, have dedicated his life to this marriage and have known her since childhood.

Hinako's problem:
>"i don't wanna marry!"
>somehow this manifests the otherworld in her head with trauma symbolism mumbo jumbo
>she says it out loud instead of thinking
>ok marriage is off bye

Alessa's problem:
>7 year old girl of a satanist drug dealing single mother
>bullied by her school mates and only has one eyebrow-less freak friend
>abused at home by her satanist drug dealing mother
>mother impregnates her 7 year old daughter with what's basically satan
>does an immolation ritual, burns her own daughter alive in an attempt to birth her god
>the suffering is so much that she splits her soul in half to finally experience happy childhood and prevent the birth of god
>keeps her daughter alive for another 7 years through excruciating pain and wounds that never heal because god is feeding on her pain and suffering
>god gets stronger and stronger and SH1 game happens because she is trying to prevent the end of the world by reuniting her soul
>splits her soul in half again and creates Heather
>uses the little power she has at the end to sacrifice herself and save the man who gave half her soul a great childhood and a loving home knowing that he'll take her of the new Cheryl

>>723023708
I wouldn't have a reason to deny someone with those qualities.

Hinako's problem:
>"i don't wanna marry!"
>somehow this manifests the otherworld in her head with trauma symbolism mumbo jumbo
>she says it out loud instead of thinking
>ok marriage is off bye

Angela's problem:
>raped by her father and brother since she was born
>beaten by her father every day of her life
>had to get a job as a waitress when she was a teen
>was sexually harassed by customers at her job
>went home every night only for her deabeat dad to take all her earned money
>then rape and beat her
>19 years of this
>every single day of her life

>Hinako, I am perfecting myself and going above and beyond to become the best husband you can get,. All my world revolves around you I also helping your parent to whatever their need. HINAKO HINAKO HINAKO HINAKO (canon).
The only thing I ask is for you to accept my love and hand in marriage and to give your unique blood type to that Kyubi in the corner of the room.

>>722993667

This doesn't make any sense as a perspective when you:

a) Consider the nature of biology and mate selection
b) Consider the pressures placed on men which are of an equally oppressive but different nature
c) Consider that gender norms are prrimarily forced by the expectations of the opposite sex and thus society is at all times entirely culpable for whatever injustice it claims exists towards one sex
d) Consider history as a whole and how women have continued to benefit from male success, but consistently need to reframe the entirety of civilisation and its structural fabric to craft the exact convenient perspective required that makes them a victim
e) Consider that historically women have always oppressed other women with no particular desire to change this, whilst men in positions of power have been responsible for limiting whatever societal limitations were placed on women in the first place

It's fine as a story, as a perspective of a particularly ignorant and narrow-minded character, but if it's trying to make a statement about society it is a woefully overdone, boring and essentially very wrong take that always requires ignoring about 30+ observable truths about reality - which is ironically exactly what people accuse women of doing when it comes to addressing problems in their life.

>>723024651
He was, literally, put under a spell.

>>723017519
>Can't even stay in character for a 5 second meme video.
Fucking hell.

>>723023708
>Would you marry someone you don't love?
That's the only way I would ever consider marrying.
"Love" turns you into a subhuman lobotomized animal who would eat dirt before some retarded waste of life that might not be worth your one nail objectively. Then in a couple years it passes and you realize what kind of fucked up things you've just made to your life under the influence. Seen that 50% divorce statistic? That's the love shit.

Doing something as impactful as picking a person you will have to spend the remainder of your life next to should be done with a very, very cold head.

>>723024275
>>723024328
Love is not a bar you can max out in a video game. Being caring and selfless are great qualities to have. But love is built around mutual attraction. Either it's there or it's not.

The way you type makes me believe you are being owed affection for being kind, which is not kind at all.

>I WANT MORE OUT OF LIFE THAN MARRIAGE
>okay like what
>UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>Be silent hill
> Japan ignore you
> be silent hill f
> omg kawaii, sugoi, kino, QUICK, MAKE A FAN ART

fking piece of shit.

>>723025264
If you reject someone who's being kind, wealthy, handsome and loves you, you're plain retarded. Sorry to break it to you sister.

>>723024915
Hi Anon, Peter Griffin here. The video's intent is that being 'sentenced' to a stay at home mom is actually a very easy lifestyle. The girl in the video isn't 'breaking character', she's subtly through opposing facial expressions hinting that it actually isn't that big of a punishment and she sees doing nothing all day but live at home not working as a good lifestyle, yet is pretending it is bad for dramatic effect. Haha, okay, glad to help you out there buddy, you have a good one.

>>723025393
Again, I don't think you're actually kind if that's how you handle rejection.

While there is a lot of truth in sexual realism, the fact it is being spouted through every kind of social media imaginable tells me its just another demoralization tool wielded against me

>>723025540
Or maybe I'm not fortunate enough to reject literally perfect candidates for partnership. And neither is 90% of the world.

>>723025540
I never said *I* was kind

>>723025264
>Love isn't a bar you fill up in a video game
>Love is a happy sunshine feeling of rainbows and kisses like I read about in my young adult novels
Yeah your version of love sucks too buddy. Keep searching for that 'perfect', maybe you'll find it one dya.

>>723025714
>>723025682
>>723025619
>THERE! AM I NOT BEING NICE?! I AM OWED PUSSY FOR THIS ACT!

>>723024651
All of the shitposting only works when you pretend there's no supernatural shit going on
also the cornerstone of Hinako's character and the first thing you can read about her is "i want to make my own decisions even if they're terrible and stupid"

>>723026035
There is no supernatural shit going on. The game makes it clear.

>>723026002
It seems your retardation made you forget what this argument was even about.

How are women still complaining about traditional gender roles when they haven't made an earnest attempt to fit within them in like 25 years? Was their mother happily raising them really that devastating?

>there is no-
BOOM
Retard.

>>723026134
Because women don't complain to fix things.
They complain to see if the man will react properly by backhanding them and telling them to shut the fuck up.
The mistake is always to believe their complaints have merit.

>>723026183
Explain Kotoyuki's letter, sis.

>>723026250
which one, because there's a bunch of them

>>723026083
>r-word
Not very nice of you.

>>723026346
The one in the outro.

Silent Breed.

>>723026398
>>723025682

Quick reminder : everyone in this thread has a mother.
Even those who insult women thus insult their own mother.
And someone will probably call me a roastie.

Men and women hate each other on so many fundamental levels that I can only come to the conclusion that human existence is just deliberately designed to torture everyone

>>723026650
roastie

>>723026409
what is there to explain? kotoyuki is reliving his childhood as a child because he spent most of his early years basically under the regiment of a noble i.e in strict misery
he's enjoying life because he's no longer possessed by his fox ancestor and can do what he likes, living away from Ebisugaoka

Im so sorry Hinako.....I must be a better man....

>>723026650
It is roastie "logic," the "I know a tall chinese man" non-thought.
So, even if you aren't physically a roastie, your faculties of thought are as under-developed as one.

>>723026718
How did he send it to her, which was a reply to a letter she sent to him after the marriage was off, when they were in the temple just a second before? How did he have those experiences? When did Hinako send a letter between the temple and the top of the hill?

>>723021313
This internet hypothetical killed an entire generation of women. Just cut its throat and yanked everything it could out of the bleeding hole. It did more damage to gender relations than the Cult of Cybele. And the worst part is it's not a symptom of the times, it's just an earnest glance into the "logic" of women.

>>723026834
>which was a reply to a letter she sent to him after the marriage was off,
does this look like a reply letter and not just basic correspondence?
>when they were in the temple just a second before?
you get the letter AFTER the credits roll, which is an epilogue after some time has passed, plus its fox arm who's holding the letter
>How did he have those experiences?
What do you mean how, he never lived in Ebisugaoka to begin with
>When did Hinako send a letter between the temple and the top of the hill?
again, she never sent a letter, and if she did i''d like to see it since i can't find any letters written by her beyond the one with the pressed flower

>>723027250
The only people who get mad at this are people that you're better off with a bear

>>723027814
>she never sent a letter

>>722993667
Silent Hill f is set in the 1960's
We live in 2025
If you're in the first world then women simply aren't more oppressed than anybody else nowadays

>>723027842
>bear will always kill and eat you
>"I pick the bear because bad men exist"
Just admit you're a dyke

Kotoyuki is clearly a real person, he's the person Hinako was arranged to have a marriage with. He's not a fox spirit or a descendant of a fox spirit, those are just framing mechanisms for the traditions he's trapped in and the ancestors he thinks he must appease through the marriage. He doesn't appear in the Fog World because that world is tied to Hinako's sense of innocence and her desire for freedom, tying her to her three friends. Part of her wants to retain that sense of innocence, and another part of her wants to grow up and follow the traditions expected of her, and these two parts of her struggle to reconcile, with Fox Hinako seeking to kill human Hinako.

>>722993667
>1965
>women are treated like property
>men are treated like drones (if not extremely rich)
>2025
>women are treated like princesses
>men are treated like drones (if not extremely rich)
All you managed to do was refuse to pay into the social contract out of sheer greed and hubris, totally robbing you of any long-term benefits society offers anybody.

>>723025393
Anon you can't force someone to be sexually attracted to you. Even if he was perfect. Now let's discuss Fox Mask, he doesn't even have a personality. Everything about him is fake because he was cursed by his family. He used to be a somewhat rebellious little boy and suddenly he became devoted to his studies so that he could be perfect for Hinako but he is barely a person, everything about him is controlled over his obsession with Hinako. He is a slave to his curse and Hinako probably pitied him. Btw all of this ultimately turned him into Hinako's worst fears: he is basically the perfect abuser and she doesn't stand a chance against him

>>723027250
They're not being honest, anon. They're picking the bear so they can have something else to complain about

Nipah :3

>>723028221
meanwhile in reality all of the real women lust after the fox retard

>>723028221
>>723028258
it's because he's a good man not a slave

>>723028313
It's because he's hot.

>>723027924
so your hangup is just that you can see kotoyuki's letter but not hinako's

>>723028258
just because hinako doesn't want to have her life dictated doesnt mean there aren't a ton of others that do, especially with an ikemen involved
>B-BUT HINAKO
is the fucking exception to the rule, and its why Junko is her foil (someone who prioritizes results and outcomes over something ephemreal like happiness)

>>723028464
the game frames liberty from societal norms or expectations as the direct path to happiness
it would be severely dishonest to consider the above with regards to this woman character whose most persistent sentiment told to the player is
>marriage bad
in the current era of horrendous womens liberation that has unironically ruined everything

>>723028464
You're deliberately being obtuse, right?
My "hangup" is that the game is all symbolic and in her head, not supernatural and the letter clearly proves it, as she sent him a letter after the wedding got cancelled, he is already in another town, had experiences, and replied to her letter. All that couldn't have happened no matter how supernatural the game is in the split second between teleporting from the temple and the top of the hill, as both Hinakos are still at the same place post credits and still act as if the game had just happened, no time skip.
It only makes sense if the game is purely symbolic.

>>722993667
Based, incels seething in the replies.

This game sounds like the vidya equivalent of those second-generation asian American woman novels that are so prevalent and lacking in self-awareness or appeal that they turned into a meme.

>>723028221
>Anon you can't force someone to be sexually attracted to you.
Yeah I can.

>>723028258
>Being in a real toxic relationship vs shipping a fictional japanese girl with a fictional attractive toxic character who just needs to be saved

It's basic shipping. Hinako is his savior and he is a good boy deep down. It's like a fairy tale

It would be really cool if could buy a house and raise a family on a single income like they did back in the 90s. I wish we could make that possible again. Unfortunately, trannies ruined that.

>>722993667
nah, i'm pretty sure they don't like me cause i'm ugly, poor and don't care about them
pretty much the exact opposite of the guy that bitch was supposed to marry

You know what, living an entire life without ever getting a girlfriend doesnt seem to bad anymore, considering how shitty women are nowdays
Be free, anons, once women have successfully driven away all men, they will realize how much they need them, and we will see them suffer from their own mistakes

>>723030251
sounds like the agenda was successful

>>723030251
Yup, any day now...

>>722993727
Can someone explain why white face paint is so hot?

>>723021127
>woman
>guro
every time

>>722993351
Inshallah habibi

>>723030668
>pig nosed, squashed up face gook
Yeah, we wont be missing much

>>722997613
>court jesters were all women

>>723030673
This, but unironically.

Oh my god I just realized the f in silent hill f stands for fox.

>>722993831
what do you expect from a board that cries for "government mandated wives"

>>723030881
non sequitur

>>722993667
I'm gay and I want women to hate me so they get the fuck out of my gay bars and stop trying to convince me their rot dogs are real penises.

>>723030941
I thought it stood for feminist propaganda

>>723030941
it actually stands for female

>>723030941
iF

Why do faggots say shit like "oh women just hate you because you're a BIGOT CHUD" when in reality they hate ALL men by default, and even if you were the most submissive, self-sacrificing simplord alive they would just see you as a pawn for their bidding. I never went out of my way to harrass or even interact with women, yet they still decided to ruin most of my favorite franchises with their woke garbage, while telling me that im not the audience anymore. They are just hateful to the core...

>>723031159
Because women's survival strategy is parasitism and deception.
Both of which fail if men know the truth about them.

>>723031159
You sound like the biggest dick-sucking faggot.

>>723031159
>they hate ALL men by default, and even if you were the most submissive, self-sacrificing simplord alive they would just see you as a pawn for their bidding
But men are like that too

>>722993351
>I AM MORE THAN MY VAGINA
>FINDING MYSELF MEANS FILLING MY PUSSY WITH A DIFFERENT COCK EACH NIGHT

>>723028581
no, that's just Hinako's perspective

>>723028687
>one singular document not existing means none of the supernatural stuff is real
lol
just play the game next time

>>722993168 (OP)
>Society imposes upon women the renunciation of their own identities, leading them to accept submission to survive an undesired marriage
>So anyway, muslim refugees welcome :)

>>723031529
>he literally has no argument about it
KEK
So the game is either not supernatural or it is poorly written
Pick one, bud

>>723031448
I don't remember who it was, but once the question was asked of women, "How would you keep your boyfriend if your vagina disappeared?"
Their response was, uniformly "Anal"
To which he said "I gave you the opportunity to prove you're more than a series of holes, and you failed."

>>722993168 (OP)
do people really just ignore all the bad shit that happens to her except marriage?
Like maybe the marriage symbolizes her dependance on a situation, thing or person that she believes is curing her troubled situation, but is actually just making things worse?

I'm wasting my breath. Japanese media is literally too deep for post-2012 western people.

>>723031590
Women are here
Women are proud
Women are THRIVING

>>723031632
>he literally didn't play the game
classic
the game is supernatural and one epilogue scene doesn't make it poorly written
feel free to post your next cope statement, as i shan't be giving you your replies anymore

>>723031302
You ARE the biggest dick-sucking faggot though

>>723031834
>still can't come up with an excuse to how the letter came to be if the game isn't just symbolic and all in her head
>calls Ebisugaoka in Silence "one epilogue" when it is the one ending that overwrites several journal entries, no matter if you go and do other endings again or not, deeming it the true ending

I accept your concession, shitposter-kun.
Didn't expect someone to have actually played the game when discussing it here, huh?

>>723031693
Oh, that's interesting. I never thought about it that way. ywnbaw btw.

>>722993351
My mom is a woman so you're gay and retarded, kys incel.

O.O

>>722998895
>ugh women are so oppressed they have opportunities that men could never dream of

>>723031639
Thats a Patrice O'Neil stand up bit

first off
>reddit spacing
second
>how the letter came to be
again, youre getting assblasted because there's no physical literal letter "LETTER FROM HINAKO TO KOTOYUKI (letter i wrote to Kotoyuki-san after i called off the wedding. what a loser incel chud)" as though all the evidence in the game that proves the supernatural exists somehow doesn't exist because...Hinako was transported from the Dark Shrine just as every other protag is kicked out from their Otherworld
>one ending that overwrites several journal entries
it only adds two more pages to Kotoyuki's entry and changes his portrait. feel free to post the other entries changed (you wont, ofc)

What does seloko mean?

>>723032049
>ywnbaw btw.
thank fuck. I like being a man, unlike you who is a pussy faggot afraid of thinking too hard about shit.

>>723032584
seloko = "você (se/ce) é (e/é) louco (loko)?" = "are you crazy?"

>>723032363
It doesn't exist retard because since women are much less likely to be violent than men it means you don't have to worry about entering a marriage with a rich girl hoping she won't beat the shit out of you and if she somehow does. Guess what? You leave. She won't try to kill you either. You can leave, find a job and support yourself and you don't have to worry about getting kidnapped and being sold into the sex slave trade because nobody wants your ugly ass

>>723031159
We just got your clinical evaluation.

>>723032741
Most lesbian relationships are abusive. This is a cope.

>>723032741
"Less likely to be violent'
The source that comes from draws heavily on convictions for violent crimes.

If you look, though, you'll find that they are exactly as criminal as men, but at every stage of the process from Crime Committed to Convicted, women are less likely to have the process continue.
Less likely to have charges pressed, less likely to have trials not dismissed, less likely to have harsher penalties.

>>722993168 (OP)
Is NG++ worth doing or should i just watch the 4th ending on youtube?

>>723030251
>I am very incel

>>723034090
It is a pain in the ass playing it once more, but if you are going to skip it, don't only watch the ending, you may have noticed by now that the most important clues come from the new documents and cutscenes.

>>722993168 (OP)
>iiieeeeeeeeeee it's just like modern daaaaay!

At least she acknowledges some level of hypocrisy in that pic, if only she knew what accountability was.

>>723034406
>Hinako just loves the fox fag anyways
Just sit in the chair Shu

>>723034997
*Bonk.

>>722993351
fpbp

f in a nutshell.

>>722993351
FPBP

>>723035424
kek

>>722993351
All of you are 13

Play Labyrinth of the Demon King. Samurai horror kino, vastly superior to this game and has a great soundtrack too.

>>722994064
Women are mad when they arent getting attention

>>722993515
I make six figures and bench 305 actually.

>>723035992
Neither the gameplay or the story were finished before it got kicked out the door. Still worth a play though

>>723035992
ok, I will pirate your game

>>723008942
Both political parties work for wealthy donors and economic freedom is one of the things that makes a civilization prosperous, the only thing you're really criticizing in your post is inheritance, and that's a very interesting subject because it's the mark of a barbarian to be against inheritance. Modern civilization comes from the value surplus created by slow life history strategists who worked hard, took on stress, delayed gratification and died without seeing every gain of their endeavors, but it paid off to do so because it made the environment a better place for their offspring, and that includes giving them their inheritance. Their parents worked harder than they needed to for them, not you. No one gives a fuck about you.

I've actually been thinking about this recently so it's funny a spearchucker was dumb enough to bring it up. I just wish I had enough space to explain it all out in detail, because it's honestly hilarious how anti-civilization egalitarians are. We'd all still be hunter-gatherers if we listened to egalitarians.

>>723036249
All this falls apart when you switch to a debt based economy that makes value out of thin air. It is anti-civilization by definition because made-up wealth does not actually create or improve anything for anyone, other than concentrating power in the hands of the few. Under this system the rich get richer and they do so by doing nothing, instead of advancing humanity or taking on risks. What you are speaking of is the generation of wealth during the early era of industrial revolution, when there was an innovation around every corner and business ventures did need to take on risks to get anywhere. We have become so far removed from this order of things that you describe, that it would be more accurate to describe the current economic system as neo-feudalism fueled by debt slavery.

>>722993351
BASED

>>723036136
It's a better videogame than SHf, that's all that matters, really.

>>723036205
Go for it.

>>722993515
FPBP

>>722998567
best post itt

>>722998895
yes exactly women have easier lives

>>722996774
In a way, you were the father they never gotten

>>722998567
Stop noticing!

>>722993168 (OP)
>society
Sorry sweatie but gamers have it way worse.

>>723037148
This, but unironically.

>>723033540
yes exactly
>>723032741
You're a pathological liar. They're much more violent towards easy targets.
And when domestic violence DOES happen, there's billions of dipshits like you asserting that it don't real because men are stronger than women, so her throwing boiling water on him can't cause significant harm.

>>723033950
https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/behavioral-neuroscience/articles/10.3389/fnbeh.2018.00081/full

Men are much more violent than women and even violent women are less violent than men choosing to be more bark than bite

"Some women do use violence against their romantic partners, although the severity and form of the IPV may differ compared to male-perpetrated IPV. Women tend to engage in fewer acts of severe IPV than men, just as women engage in less aggression than men generally. For instance, one study of IPV arrestees reported that women used an average of 1.44 severely violent tactics (as defined by the severe violence scale of the Conflict Tactics Scale; Straus, 1979) during the arrest incident, whereas men used an average of 2.27 severely violent tactics (Busch and Rosenberg, 2004). Women are more likely than men to throw objects at their victim, to use weapons, and to bite their victims (Magdol et al., 1997; Archer, 2002; Melton and Belknap, 2003), whereas men are more likely to beat up, choke or strangle their victims (Archer, 2002).

>>723037442
Cont
Indeed, IPV causes visibly greater physical and psychological harm in women than men (e.g., Morse, 1995; Archer, 2000; Caldwell et al., 2012). A meta-analysis found that male IPV perpetrators were more likely to cause physical injury than female IPV perpetrators. Over 60% of those injured by their partners in an IPV incident were women (Archer, 2000). Female victims of IPV are not just more likely to suffer physical injury, but also posttraumatic stress disorder, depression and anxiety than their male counterparts (Caldwell et al., 2012). Additionally, an important aspect of IPV is sexual violence, and in this category, women are far more likely to be victims than men (Foshee, 1996; Coker et al., 2002; Black et al., 2011). Similarly, women are far more likely to be victims of IPV-related homicide than men. In Australia, women comprise 76% of IPV homicide victims (Ramsey, 2015). Other countries also show this gender disparity in IPV homicide rates. The World Health Organization (2013) examined 1121 crime data estimates of IPV-related homicides across 65 countries from 1982 to 2011. Of these homicides, the median prevalence of women killed by their partners was 38%, whereas the corresponding rate of murdered men was 6%."

>>723035992
Downloading it right now, looks really kino.
Been meaning to play more videogames this month.
Anything I should know?

>>722993667
>So what if you're treated like a possession? You're a PRECIOUS possession that is CARED FOR so what's the problem?
This, but unironically

>>722993168 (OP)
Civilization causes people to become more specialized and for women that means spending more time rearing children while men do everything else. In the ancient past, men simply had a strength advantage over women, but in the more recent past they had an economical one as well since that's a man's field. In both scenarios, it leads women to having children with men they may not choose themselves. Should they get pregnant, the natural response is to force the father to pay for the child, but that wasn't enforceable until recently; the other option is to abandon your baby. The time spent going through all of this would natural give these women a disadvantage at having more kids, especially with other men, especially if they kept them. Not to mention the unfortunate rate at which women became infertile or even died giving birth. At any rate, this causes a problem as far as genetic inheritance is concerned: it means women who don't care who their kids' father is reproduce more. This has lead to women in general having a genetic predisposition to not believe in genetic predispositions. If they did, they'd abort rape babies and possibly never pass on their genes at all. So women love their children regardless of who the father is and trust that they can mold them into good people by adulthood.

They can't because how you're raised matters fuckall to who you are as an adult, but by then it's too late and they're out having their own babies, so this feedback never makes it through the selective pipeline. Women nowadays have full control of reproduction so they can just choose the men they want, but since the rape-accepters outbred women with higher standards, women in general are sexually attracted to evil men and they have this built-in belief that they can fix their kids. So the end result is women love evil men, have their babies thinking they can fix them, but they can't, and they then grow old begging younger girls to listen to them.

>>723013876
>Hinako = Rena
There's something in that, I suspect. Of course Rena's broken home and poor relationship with her father stems from very different reasons.

>>723031639
that's because they have no illusions about what men care about, and what they don't care about.

>>723037391
Lol
Perpetrator characteristics. Most infant and toddler homicides are perpetrated by males (65.3%), individuals 18 years and older (93.4%), and family members (67.8%, Fig. 1). Approximately 34.7% are perpetrated by females, and 26.9% by acquaintances. Three perpetrator profiles account for over 80% of all infant and toddler homicide victimizations: male family members 18 years and older (36.5%), female family members 18 years and older (26.9%), and male acquaintances 18 years and older (20.9%).

https://injepijournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40621-024-00518-0

Keep in mind that women do most of the childrearing and duties so they are much more likely to be stressed from it

>>723038284
>so they are much more likely to be stressed from it
right, they didn't do it but it's not their fault that they did

>>723038284
Child victims, age 5–12
Males (77.0%) and individuals 18 years and older (86.6%) overwhelmingly perpetrated child homicides

Adolescent victims, age 13–19
Almost all adolescent homicides in 1976–2020 were perpetrated by males (95.2%), compared to 4.8% perpetrated by females

And for the rest of the age groups

>>722993168 (OP)
>>723037847
So to finish what I was saying: the default position for women is to believe in bullshit like the blank slate and nurture-over-nature, even though the data is incontrovertible that people are mostly sacks of genes and growing up is mostly just the process of unpacking the .rar you were born with. They have to believe in environmental forces of human conditioning in order to cope with raising rape babies.

This is why women always blame "society" in diatribes like this. Who the fuck is society? Society is mostly women. So are women oppressing women? That doesn't make sense. Perhaps they're rules baked into the culture? Nope, because the last century was one massive exercise by people to reject cultural norms. It was to their detriment, but is that someone's fault?

No. What these women are actually complaining about is their own biology. Through some combination of mental illness and believing in the lies of cult leaders (eg. mentally ill college professors) they've come to believe that their very own existence is somehow an affront to itself. But they can't blame their genes because they don't believe in that, so instead they blame the environment, like always. This isn't surprising given what I've said so far, but also since women are evolved to placate children and survive bad situations through pity by being attractive, which means they're natural conformists (women make up a majority of cult followers, despite men making up a majority of cult leaders). So they believe the media's and academia's mentally ill propaganda, it lines up perfectly with their own rape baby coping mechanism.

I like that she says femininity BECOMES an artifice molded to meet men's nasty expectations, because (1) femininity and masculinity are always going to be two sides of the same coin, one doesn't exist without the other, and (2) women themselves mold masculinity by selecting for those kinds of men - more than the opposite, since women control reproduction.

>>722993351
FPBP

>>723038496
Women are more likely to do the child rearing and despite it all they don't kill children as much as men do. Men just tend to fuck off and that's for the better

>>723030881
I don't think you know what jesters were if you think being passive aggressive was a common trait.
Unless you are stupid enough to believe being facetious or using satire is passive aggressive behavior.

Oh holy shit, I just realized you're all Indians.

Hinakopop, cute!

this thread has been "resurrected by a random post" every time it hit page 10, btw

>>722993168 (OP)
>>723037847
>>723038748
We could have an entire conversation about how to "fix this problem," but I think it's important to first figure out how much of it is a problem to begin with. What's funny is this kind of thinking is often referred to as progressive, but it's actually regressive. If you look at primitive societies, like hunter-gatherers and agriculturalists, what you find is that men and women are biologically more similar to each other than they are in more modern, technologically advanced societies. The advances of civilization cause masculinity and femininity to become more extreme. Add on top of this that advanced civilizations are created by slower life history strategies, which include genuinely loving, eternal relationships of sexual exclusivity and close parenting, and you start to see the full picture. A truly progressive society wouldn't be one where women are strong and independent, it'd be one where women are entirely invested in their husband and children.

Not equally, either. You should put your mate above your children, since your mate should be the best possible person to reproduce your genes with, while your children are just attempts and can be replaced. When you look at modern dating and divorce rates, it becomes clear which direction we're "progressing" in.

>>723031639
That's what a middle school english class would've taught you is a "leading question".

>>722993667
>This is why women don't like you, /v/. Just saying.
No, that's what women will TELL you right before reading steamy lit about their obsessive 6'8" jacked stalker that nearly murders them before raping them.
Women ARE objects, and enjoy being TREATED like objects, but when the person doing that is an UGLY 5' MAN, they feel worthless instead of aroused because it gives them self esteem issues that this is the only kind of man that would feel passionate about her like this.

>>723037549
Don't use rusty katana to restore your sword.

>>723040075
BY THE WAY, this is also why women are gooning over the fox guy in this game- because Ryukishi is a MAN who is too stupid to understand the gap between women's words and revealed preferences.
If he just made her fiance UGLY I don't think there would even be this discourse around the game.
Hinako's aversion would instead be immediately obvious and understandable.

>>722993168 (OP)
I haven't played Silent Hill F yet because I'm still working my way through Cronos, but the game's commentary on womens' place in society pertain to the period, right? The 1960s? Realistically, how many women in the developed world are trapped in Hinako's position? Or is there an element of class consciousness, wherein the game posits that women's lib simply isn't attainable for the impoverished?

>>723040575
most of the commentary is about the fear of marriage/domestic abuse in general

>>723039252
Any interviews yet?

>>723035992
Kino game. Thanks for recommending.

>>723040075
>can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy
Unsurprising

>>722993667
im male and this was how I was treated by my mother.

>>722993351
FPBP. Women are barely sentient.

Otsukaresama, Hinako-des.

>>723037549
A puzzle that's in the game isn't finished and can't be completed
Just Google the Butsudan after the first tower
Parrying is pleasantly very forgiving. You're visibly blocking after a single press? You're parrying
Try shit out to find the styles you like before upgrading because you probably won't get enough to upgrade more than 2 things to max
Doors you unlock remain as red on the map
Loads of doors just do nothing

>>723041102
>>723041162
>>723041324
Very nice, would definitely date

>>723041356
she wouldn't even look at you, chuddie

>>723041339
Oh, and attacking right after a successful parry counts as a different move. It takes up less stamina than a normal attack and also works on 0 stamina

>>723041056
>can't tell the reality in fantasy
Is more appropriate.
Your sexual fantasies reflect something about your sexual preferences!
Is that hard for you to understand?
Women find men being possessive, sexually assertive, and dominant hot!

And no, this is not limited to some 'kink' they have cordoned away mentally to make that fantasy socially acceptable!

>>722993831
>marrying a rich guy is bad
i thought women were gold digging whores???

These threads were much faster midweek.

>>723041740
>Forgotten after 2 weeks

>>723041740
It only slowed down recently. Read the thread and try and guess which bits were moving fast

>>723041339
Thanks. Game seems really fun and has lots of soul. One of the few games I feel like that managed to capture the soul of PS1 games but I just finished the tutorial.

>>723030941
fox
fate
freedom
feminism

>90% of the story is told through the diary and the 30 seconds after credit scene
I want to strangle somebody right now. What a fucking waste of time

>>723042298
for me it's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Df5V40-VYI

>>722999610
Forbidden knowledge ahead, don't open this spoiler: this truth also applies to women

>>722993727
ALL WOMEN SHOULD SO BE GOTH WHORES OTHERWISE IT IS OPRESSION!!!!

>>723042298
this is another one of F's major pitfalls, and not that it doesn't have good tracks but it doesn't have anything that really defines it

>>723023991
She want to love Tyrone and his friends first before have enough love to marry Kotoyuki.

>>722996774
What is it about women and tarot?

>>722993351
do none of y'all love or have been loved by your mother or what the fuck am i looking at here?

>>723042298
I like this version better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFTW49WYf-Y

>>723042345
>>723042446

When I was younger, I thought that Claudia Wolf was the one singing these songs.

>>722993168 (OP)
>People find this ugly 5 head bug attractive
Get better standards

>>723042446
I really like the atmospheric tracks of F
https://youtu.be/3QhOMzudj-4
https://youtu.be/27hmscznOP4
https://youtu.be/2eux7DScV_A
https://youtu.be/mNK2zx00zV8
https://youtu.be/K-vQaipprxE

>>723039964
And it only takes a maginal level of intelligence to not fall for it.

>>722998567
Every man would gladly marry a hot rich woman so the premise would be retarded

>>723018315
She was also taking white claudia lol

Cannot fucking wait for the next Naughty Dog or Square Enix game to come out so I can stop hearing the usual suspects whine about all the microaggressions this game has against men or whatever. The thin skin here is ridiculously pathetic
It's a good game with a well told and interesting story. But it isn't explicitly about owning the libs so of course a bunch of jeets need to spam the board about how it's woke because that's what cool kids on 4chan do, right?

>>723018315
If you had played the game properly, you would know that he didn't even need to marry her. He did it of his own volition because he cared about Hinako. The previous heirs of the Tsuneki clan just kidnapped the girls and the town write it off as a "fox wedding".

>>723043396
Isnt that her model with the fox mask edited out? I'll never understand why you people are so dishonest
Most videogames models usually cheat to look good and in this case she meant to look good while Fox mask is on and they edited her hair around to fit along with that aspect of the design

>>723030881
It is literally their job to be actively funny, you retard.
Not passively

Where did he come from?

>>723044220
From the advertising bill.

>>722997420
>Unless you have personally experience it, it doesn't exist.
How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning.

>>723042284
>I actually have to play and interact with the game instead of just watching it on youtube
>This is somehow a negative
Is this your first horror game or something, little bro?

>>723044456
In his country you can only play games on phones since no one can afford a console

>>722993168 (OP)
>marriage is oppressive
>being a debtslave working for mr. goldstein's megacorporation your entire life isn't
genuinely what is wrong with women

>/v/ tells me its a feminist woke game
>it is actually a hardcore NTR game

>>723044456
Diary entries are normally fucking dull. The story needs to be told in a way that compliments the gameplay instead of grinding it to a halt

>>723044319
Sorry, SHf chud, but no ads here.

>>723044807
NTR is a female fetish.

>>723044872
Welcome to the room with the puzzle you can't complete

>>723044807
No one who uses the word woke has ever played a video game so it's not surprising they didn't play this one

>>723044807
That's why I have trust issues with this board.

>>723044807
The game is too layered with plot threads, yes it's woke, yes it's also NTR, it's not 1 thing exclusively

>>723045407
I think if saying "You shouldn't sell your daughter" is woke we've reached a point where the word doesn't have any meaning anymore
Is woke just when you don't have a burning insatiable hatred for all women at all times in every conceivable context?

>>723045595
Don't be dumb anon
People are not saying it's woke for those kinds of lines many people have posted many examples of the woke side of this game over and over.
But as I said it has many layers and plot threads that amount into unimaginable levels of retarded, so it's many things.
Yes it's woke, yes it's NTR, yes is whatever garbage social commentary Ryuk came up with and more.

>picked game up after not playing for a week
>left off right before the end of playthrough 2
>roll credits
>decide to start #3 and see how far I get
>skipped all cutscenes this time before getting back to Hinako's house because it should all be repeats
>rolling credits again after only 4 hours according to in-game timer

>>722993168 (OP)
Wasn't the guy also being forced to get married?

>>723046104
Shhh, we don't talk about that.

>>723046104
No one who watched YouTube clickbait on this knows that therefore it didn't happen

>>723046104
All the game is an drug trip

We don't know what is real aside from a few lines that could possibly be in the real life during the wedding.

The in game lore says he got possessed by a fox god that keeps other gods at bay so sacrifice girls by fucking hem so they can spawn more babies for the clan and then the girls are tossed.
But then he retcons everything saying the dude personality was an actual perv who wanted the girl.

And then the girl has cursed blood made for sacrifices but then the writer writes the girl to actually like the dude and wanting to marry him in the real world in the despite the previous lore saying she will be sacrificed.

There's many instances where the plot threads collide with the narrative or go nowhere.

What's real and what's not we don't fucking know.

The only thing real is the awful cringe dialogues that pop up which some are mistranslated.

tldr; Ryukishi is a hack writer who can't keep anything consistent

>>723046654
>which some are mistranslated
Haven't seen anyone else mention this but it was bothering me too. They're mostly minor but some are important changes

>>723044456
I just finished the game reading these as a cool filler subplot and expecting the main story to evolve, but it never did. Turns out that absolutely nothing actually happens in the story if you take away these notes. Even the little amount of interesting shit you thought had happened in the first half is taken away by "its just le pills bro" at the end.

She said the thing!!

>>723046654
>All the game is an drug trip
retard
>But then he retcons everything saying the dude personality was an actual perv who wanted the girl.
the fucking fox god literally explains to you that the possession makes the vessel inexplicably attracted to the girl
>but then the writer writes the girl to actually like the dude and wanting to marry him in the real world
kotoyuki used sandalwood to literally cast a love spell on her and its one of the reasons why the wedding is called off because they dont trust their love to be fully genuine

>>722993351
why do you all assume that if a woman doesnt wanna get married, she's automatically a slut? you're all not really any different from old aunts who gossip and talk badly about young women more beautiful than them.

>>723046906
>>723046906
1 Explain how the game is not a drug trip and explain how everything is real even the 2 Hinakos in the end without saying it was a drug trip or some mental garbage going on.
2 Yes but Kotoyuki is an actual perv and wants Hinako whether Fox god possesses him or not
3 Still doesn't explain why she wants to marry him in the true ending, despite knowing marrying a member of the clan is basically a game over for her.
Answer nothing is real, or everything is real and Hinako is a retard given the conflicting plotines.
REAL ANSWER
Ryukishi is a hack

h-hinako?

Sielnt Hill: Foxy.

>>723047457
Is ugly

>>723047457
wtf she did toku?

>>723045595
>Is woke just when you don't have a burning insatiable hatred for all women at all times in every conceivable context?

Why do leftoids always lie? No one is saying you have to hate women every single second of your existence. They are saying that yes society oppresses women and yes society oppresses men but without those sacrifices we end up with monkey clown world.

If you want people to take you seriously stop flying into hysterical nonsense arguments trying to conflate any amount of disagreement with genocidal hatred.

>>723047457
It is her, you can miss that nose.

>>723043396
>>723047705
You really just posted the same thing because nobody payed attention to you except for the one guy calling you out for being retarded

Do you ever think about how pathetic of a display that is?

>>722993168 (OP)
>>722993727
>>722996801
What's her opinion on Muslims?
>>723042391
That's not Goth retard kys waste of oxygen

>>723047834
But they are different pics also you are the one getting worked up by a model without the bangs or makeup

>>723047892
Wives should obey their husbands.

>stares at you
>makes you feel funny things

>>723047305

Because women who don't get married want to ride the cock carousel and once they get on it they destroy their chances for a stable marriage.

>>723048072
Buy a better GPU ffs.

>>723048112
NTA but he is playing with the no-fox mask mod
That's Hinako's face under it

Should Hinako invest in her Tokusatsu career?

>>723047323
>1
the drugs are the pathway with which the otherworld bleeds into the real world using Hinako (of super special blood) as the gateway. fox hinako is real in the sense that it's her spiritual form reborn as divine (which is the point of the rituals)
>2
yeah ok ill coinsneed on that one
>3
despite denying her own womanhood, the fact that kotoyuki sees her as a woman and is so deeply interested in that side of her gives her the kind of attention that Shu never once gave her (and somewhat resents him for). tl;dr kotoyuki groomed her

>>723048112
>But muh GPU!!!!
I'm just taking screenshots of a video

Spooky

>>723048296
This is literally just Saya no Uta.

>>722993168 (OP)
ok now explain why I should play the game when I already know what feminism is?

>>723030881
Weren't a significant number of jesters castrated?

>>722994550
this but in reverse

>>723048436
20 hours of a clunky bad combat system!

>>723048436
You are fucking retarded.

Imagine silent hill 2 if the true ending revealed that James never killed Mary and he just divorced her

That's sh2

>>723048521
Do you play games so you can feel smart?

>>723048575
Thats SHf*

>>723048436

There's no reason. It's probably the weakest writing in the entire series and the gameplay is a shittier darksouls complete with an Ornstein and Smough fight. The music is also complete dogshit.

I will say the art direction is a standout. But if you want shitty social engineering propaganda from a complete faggot that completely whiffed on a period piece then this game is for you.

>>723047909
Youre posting a model edit and then calling the character ugly. How is that not fucking retarded?

Playing Silksong rn.
Whenever I die I blame myself no matter how many times I've died, how many hours I'm stuck in the same boss.
Combat in SHf just felt bad, clunky, poorly designed, unresponsive.

>>723039964
Wtf is a leading question?

>>723048248
1 So you agree it's mental garbage then and nothing is real except for the wedding stuff due to the 2 Hinakos in the true ending
3 You are ignoring my point, she will get fucked by the clan as she accepts Kotoyuki if we go by everything is real like my first point
As I said Ryukishi is a retard, don't try to justify his bad writing.

>>723048663
It's not a model edit, she just doesn't have the mask on and doesn't have the bangs and makeup.
Maybe I should download the mod and use the camhack mod too so I can post more of her ugly moon face if it bothers you so much.

>>723048772
>nothing is real
is as real as every otherwrorld manifestation in other SH games
>You are ignoring my point,
no im not you fucking dope, Hinako doesn't know anything about the Tsuneki or the Igarawa clan and only goes through the ritual of rebirth because she's under Kotoyuki's spell

>>723048742
I agree that it's clunky, but it's also extremely easy and cheesy. If you put 10% of effort it is impossible to lose.

>>723048921
1 The otherworld in 1, 3, and origins was very real
2 Yes she will still get fucked it's a dumb plot hole and if you go by she doesn't know then you are making Ryuk look even more of a hack because that's a dumb argument given all the exposition, or you can go for nothing is real and justify your point

Holy shit Fox Wedding is such a dogshit ending

Surprisingly Junko looks better than Hinako without mask

>>723049090
This is a nice piece of fanart because it makes me think of a better character in a better piece of media.

>>723049132
Only the Shu ending is good because of the post credits scene, everything else is anime hack shit

Her feeling she hides,
her dreams she can't find
She's losin' her mind,
she's fallen behind
She can't find her place,
she's losin' her faith
She's fallen from grace,
she's all over the place

>>723037391
Did a quick search because of that graph.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/255033/number-of-child-fatalities-due-to-abuse-in-the-us-by-perpetrator-relationship/
Oh god it's real.

>>722993351
only millenial and gen z women

>>723049029
the dark shrine is also real because the town believes it exists
>it's a dumb plot hole
why would you assume she knows anything when the last ending is the only ending where she can actually see what the Tsuneki clan wants to do with her and rejects it wholly, even under the sandalwood spell? and its not like Hinako knows Kotoyuki is a Tsuneki since its never stated anywhere (except for the "i used characters from my name and your father's name so that you would be easily recognized" shit, and if you think that should be enough knowledge for Hinako to realize Kotoyuki is Tsuneki then idk what to tell you

she does not want to be like her mother

>>723048903
Its more the fact that nobody paid attention to you and you kept trying to get attention and now that you got even a bit of attention youre spamming. That and being dishonest in the first place with the model edit

>>723049501
Wait so you're saying that people don't want to repeat the mistakes and dysfunctions of their parents? Whoa....deep....

>>723049521
I am not trying to get attention. It is the model without the mask.

1 If it exists then she killed her friends, and then spawned them again, it's even more blatant like in Shu's ending it's dumb, it's not real.
2 But she doesn't reject it she specifically says she is interested in becoming a wife for Kotoyuki at some point, and if we go by what you say she knows what the clan wants to do with her it's even dumber
As I said Hack writer etc

>>723049521
I mean I not trying to get attention I just said she is ugly, but if it bothers you I'll take that but you should reflect in yourself, and like the other anon said it's the model without the mask literally.

>>723049692
meant for >>723049431

Hinako is ugly.

>>723049692
1. fox hinako killed her friends according to how the fox ancestor foresaw, demanded and her parents too which is what you see after you leave the Shimizu house
2. yes she wants to marry kotoyuki while rejecting the clan because that faggot fox laughed at him, basically the equivalent of eloping

while i do agree that ryukishi is a hack i think the story does not suffer nearly as much as we perceive it to

>>723049862
yes

kek

>>723049915
1 again you are ignoring how she spawned her friends again in the otherworld
2 agian yes but you are still ignoring the clan would fuck her given all the exposition and lore dump hell an interaction with a so called god, either way if you find the world real or not you end up in front of a wall of bad writing with conflicting stuff
Ryukishi is a hack writer

>>723049862
MOGGED

>>723038801
>despite it all they don't kill children as much as men do
This here is a word play, notice the graph about Filicide then the poster switch to "Perpetrator characteristics and firearm use in pediatric homicides", which is a different subject.

>Silent hill threads will never be comfy after this trash
Owari da

>>723050323
it will get worse, wait for the 1 remake

>>723050383
I have more faith in Remake 1 but the normie flood will be inevitable

We must be better men
We must be worse women

It still baffles me that /v/ is so triggered over this game.
Its not even a bad game. Its just ends up being the typical old good new bad shtick.

>>723050706
>idea good
>combat bad
>story convoluted
>dialogues shit as fuck
>narrative conflicting
it's shit anon

my beautiful wife Rena

>>723050771
The combat isnt even bad. Thats just what normies keep saying because its filters them. The combat is just simply okay and I'll never understand why people sperg out over it.

>>723050706
>hitstops and an egregious dash that makes ds3's rollchaining look good
yeah no

>>723050885
No the combat is shit, the hitboxes are spherical for no reason so in alleys you constantly hit walls behind you, the auto aim fucks up whenever 2 enemies are in the screen, also the hitstop stamina and rollslop, the fox arm and rage mode and clunky animations are no place for Silent Hill