Thread 722993703

So is Toby Fox our version of Kojima? Going to Japan and becoming a big shot there?

>>722993703 (OP)
no, that will be me once my game is out
then I will use my new influence to have the japanese government deport toby fox

>>722993703 (OP)
Original image

>>722993842
We have their tourist Kojima shitting up our industry with pro globalism games, we might as well give them games about empathy toward JRPG monsters

>>722993703 (OP)
its hard to me to believe there are no independant journalists or even fans with phones unable to make a pic and reveal the face of Toby Fox and Yoko Taro. I think we only have old photos when Toby was like 20 or younger

>>722993703 (OP)
how did toby manage to squirm his way into this group of people

>>722993703 (OP)
Isnt suda and kojima and the re4 maker missing from this also the dark souls creator

I imagine he speaks fluent Japanese, no ? This would already earn him more respect than 99% of Ameritards. And then he makes their type of game. He's also very very small, so he won't intimidate.

>>722995485
He can speak Japanese and Undertale is extremely popular in Japan

>>722993703 (OP)
never seen so many hacks in a single room

Guys, you said he's trooning out! Why is there a beard? Where's nail polish?

>>722993703 (OP)
Sakurai and Kamiya absolutely mog all those other clowns. Taro is alright in my book tho.

>>722993703 (OP)
>Fox is just an out of place indie dev hack
>He probably made more money selling his fangames to trannies than every other dev in the table minus Sakurai
Sad

It is sorta admirable how far this guy made it with one dinky earthbound clone he did like 10 years ago.

>>722996378
Kodaka's made more. Danganronpa as a series sold over 8.5 million copies with a higher price tag than Undertale

>>722996378
Undertale has been massively outsold by Phasmophobia, an indie game a year old. It's nothing overtly special in terms of sales.

>make a shitty game that somehow becomes successful because of mentally ill internet users
>other game producers suddenly want to be friends with you

this earth is gay, nothing is real, everything is clout based, no one gives a fuck about talent and skill

>>722996237
My theory has been btfo

>>722993703 (OP)
Post the original jap dev roundtable image from a few years back. This is a cheap imitation

>>722997637
>no one gives a fuck about talent and skill
Did you just wake up from a coma?
That's been obvious for the last 15 years or so, maybe more

>>722993703 (OP)
>Sakurai
Most consistent. Closest thing he's made to a bad game is Sm4sh WiiU and that's more dull than anything.
>Toby
Never played UT/DR but his career is proof that anybody can make it. His code is infamously awful and he got his start ROMhacking and yet here he is. I like some of his music a lot; it gets overhyped by his fans but he can write a damn good melodic hook.
>Taro
Pure idea guy but in a way that's genuinely unique compared to most that just think they're unique. That's the only reason people could play games that play/run like Drakengard 1 and Nier Gestalt and be enamored with them.
>Kamiya
Idiosyncratic and stubborn, in both good and bad ways. DMC1 and Bayonetta both changed the landscape of action game design but have insane choices in them only he would make. W101 is either the greatest game of all time or a hodgepodge mess depending on how you look at it because it's a culmination of his entire career.
>Toyama
Deserves to have the notoriety of Sakurai/Toby/Kamiya if only for Silent Hill, but Gravity Rush, Siren, and Slitterhead are all very cool games.
>Kodaka & Ishii
Genuinely not much of a VN guy so I can't say much but people really seem to like the stuff listed here (and Hundred Line is an SRPG so I might try it one day).

I just hope they will inform him how much they love Krusie. Maintaining the agenda is top priority.

>>722993703 (OP)
Nobody in Japan cares about Toby Fox.

>B-but Sakurai

Sakurai talks to everyone.

>supposed "videogame" forum where everyone is fucking miserable all the time and doesn't like jack shit, especially modern games
>visibly seething at someone who actually made a videogame and was able to push success in life while meeting all his heroes cuz he wasn't a miserable blob wasting his life away
>there will never be a connection drawn, it's just luck and toby is an asshole for stealing my dreams
Surprise, surprise.

>>722996432
the power of kissing ass and shmoozing.

>>722998528
You realize not everyone dreams of making video games, right? Most of us just play them and that's where it ends.

Toby “Girls like Undyne CAN love girls like Alphys” Fox next to Hideki “Bayonetta and Jeanne’s relationship was never like that you delusional freaks” Kamiya is a very strange vibe

>>722998397
>His code is infamously awful
His games run flawlessly, I have never seen a single bug or visual error in any casual playthrough of Undertale/Deltarune

>>722993703 (OP)
That's more hacks than average RU-only CS lobby!

>>722998528
>it's just luck
it is. there's been endless quirky rpg maker sloppa. the ironic thing being /v/ is a huge part of why this hack is huge. i hated him from the beginning while you were all still hugging his nuts.

>>722998770
Not non-functional, just cobbled together and amateurish. Every single dialogue box in Undertale is in one single If/Else statement. Point being, if it works it works.

>>722993703 (OP)
Chiyomaru is a better writer than all of them put together.

>>722998696
>Girls like Undyne CAN love girls like Alphys

>>722996432
Undertale is the definition of being in the right place at the right time. One genuine, sincere game in an ocean of Whedonslop. Retro pixel graphics were also peak nostalgia in 2016.

>>723000221
>sincere
>murder is............. le bad!!!!!!
wow so heckin' sincere.

>>722995485
Toby’s games were lightning in a bottle I guess you can say

The Danganropa guy looks exactly like you'd think he would: A 50 year old guy who thinks he's a high schooler. Most embarrassing dialogue in any games. Have no idea how people play them.

>>723000452
Given the state of pop culture's tone at the time, it was relatively sincere yeah. This was a few years before "He's right behind me isn't he"-tier writing started to get shit on more regularly.

>>723000694
it was a garbage game back then and it's still garbage now.

>>722996432
>>722997637
>>722997281
>>723000221

Despite all this I'll never touch Undertale with a 10 foot pole, I’ve already got the true chad Earthbound

>>722993703 (OP)
>Going to Japan and becoming a big shot there?
I see what you did there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSJbRk0tv7g

undertale is shit low effort meme game like angry birds, hilarious how this slop got so popular

>>723000871
Based.

>>722993703 (OP)
>Muh Japan Game Awards

These are just the Judges. So it isn't a gathering of prominent game devs or anything.

>>722995598
First of all, this is a meeting for a judging panel that they're all on.
Secondly,
>Suda
No relation to anyone here aside from Toyama and Kamiya
>Kojima
Does everything at his own studio or during tours (he's in Brazil right now).
>re4 maker
Mikami really only knows Kamiya that well of everyone here.
>dark souls creator
Miyazaki is unrelated to everyone here aside from maybe Toyama.

>>723000557
the fuck else you want High Schoolers to sound like in a video game?

>>722993703 (OP)
>A bunch of hack frauds and Masahiro Sakurai

>>722993703 (OP)
this you anon?

>>723003048
It's probably not him actually.
Most /v/ OPs can just be sourced back to twitter in general.

>>723000452
>his career is proof that anyone can make it
as long as you are a hyper autistic genius with musical skills that is. hes never a good coder but he makes it up with actual talent

>>723000452
>Toby makes a relatively simple and basic empathy test
>sociopaths keep failing it and getting mad

>>722993703 (OP)
>big shot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2WaJwET0GI

>>723003715
meant for >>722998397

>>723000452
In the realm of video games, that can be a deeper message than one would generally expect.
Most video games, and especially JRPGs, involve wanton murder of everything you come across that isn't immediately useful or docile at all times. Certainly Undertale isn't the first to tackle this idea, MOON was very similar, but it's still prescient for video games.
And whenever video games confront the implicit act of murder in what are essentially tools of desensitization to extreme violence and constant death, it's always kino.

>>722996432
and all the plagarism

>>722998397
>(and Hundred Line is an SRPG so I might try it one day).
More VN than SRPG, but it is one of the few games where "Choices Matter" actually means something (100 endings across 21 distinct routes). Some routes are worse than others, but it's one of the most fascinating games of the decade for that dedication alone, and it's a bit of hope. While Toyama's independent attempts failed so far, Kodaka basically blew all his money, all the money his studio had, and went into severe debt for this one game and it paid off.
Try the demo if you haven't, it goes up to Day 7. The choices don't come in until 30 hours into the game.

I don't really get why "we" keep having this thread where a bunch of people that never played Undertale or are really aware of it are super opinionated about it or don't know that most of the guys there played it and liked it too.

>>723004924
>japs have shit taste
yeah we know.

>>722993703 (OP)
>play old game(s)
>build a career off that
Kamiya sees in him a kindred spirit.
Sakurai is of the old.
Taro is Suda with a bigger cliche.
Toyama made that one game that one time at the end of the '90s.
The other two uuuhh

>>722993703 (OP)
How could a western human surpass ZUN

>>723008583
touhou being irrelevant for like 15 years will do that.

>>723008885
We still have threads for it.

>>723009503
>dumb trannies who've been obsessed with a shitty series for an eternity continue to make threads about said series so it's relevant OKAY

>>722993703 (OP)
Reminder
ZUN brought back Ran to a mainline game because of Toby

>>722993703 (OP)
wow all those games suck

>>722995485
He is more of a Japanophile than a real Weeb. I think he mostly played obscure JRPGS and visited Japanese forums in his yout rather than just consuming anime and manga. He really lvoes Japan and its culture of 80's and 90's video games and so he was able to easily adapt. Undertale and Deltarune are games meant for Japan to accept him as their developer

>>722996237
>trooning out
>when appealing to old fag Japanese creators and their community
Bruh, literally a reason why Kris is not non binary is because Toby doesnt give a shit about western values. He makes games that suppose to appeal to average Mother/Chrono Trigger/Dragon Quest player. Even the main protag is an eyeless blank state

>>722993703 (OP)
Kodaka looks starved. The Too Kyo studio was a failure. None of their game became a hit, their best "Hundred Line Defense" game was a dud that some desperate fans still try to shill. Meanwhile everyone is now hyped for Spike remake of Danganronpa 2. He must be in real bad shape and probably trying to think of a way to quit and return to Spike and beg the CEO for a job.

>>722997637
>great original game becomes succesfull
>it is bad because it also becomes popular
what causes this mental illness? Are you one of the faggots who also claim Dark Souls and Disco Elysium was shit and didn't deserve to win any praise?

So was the stuff about the dead kid real in the other thread are there any real underfags who could confirm

>>722996237
Bro if BASED Sakurai learned that Toby made a game about troon shit, he would kick him out of the table. Toby is aware he wont win anything in Japan by appealing to tumblr

>>723003048
Not me, but is strange someone copies this thread as their own post on twitter. Why not just screencap the OP?

i HATE toby fox...

>>722993703 (OP)
Siren 1 is Toyama's masterpiece

>>723005198
Why do they love Krusie so much then?

>>722993703 (OP)
Goddamn it Toby, stop wasting time with jap geezers and whip those bums you call a team into shape!

>>722997637
>nooo theres no talent because i dont like the people related to it
outing yourself as someone who will eternally remain a talentless faggot that will do nothing good in your life unless you change your ways

Proud of Toby for the marriage/engagement

>>722997637
Have you considered, just for a second, that it might be you who is wrong?

>>722995485
appeal to the modern mass of faggotry. the jesus for fags (most people under 25)

>>723020105
>appeals to faggots
>still becomes a god in one of the most conservative countries on earth
how can one man be this powerful...

>>723019661
I hope it's that girl who was sniffing his hair and slamming him into lockers in the school.

>>723013917
>original game
>its a literal earthbound clone

kill yourslef troon

>>722993703 (OP)
A room full of amazing talent, and Kodaka.

Amaterasu and Emileas as cameos in Deltrarune confirmed. Kirby in the Swich 2 version.

>>723021078
Please be true

>>722993703 (OP)
>toby getting all that japanese cunny to himself
its not fair bros

>>723017814
They love all ships involving the humans with the most popular side characters. It's not particularly good taste. It just is.

I wonder how they all felt when Robert Foxstein started lecturing them on the toxic heteronormativity of heterosexual relationships and the importance of nonbinary protagonists in video games not even five minutes into dinner.

>>722993703 (OP)
I have quirky indie dev fatigue. Please, for the love of god let some bpd whore accuse him of rape already.

>>723000557
He's still better than the furfag who thinks he's japanese.

>>722993703 (OP)
So all of these guys other than Sakurai are has beens or never wases?

>>722997637
Based, Undertroons seething

>>723025429
More like Sakurai is the exception, there's literally no indie japanese dev like him, he is one of a kind.

>>723023506
What about oikophobia?

>>722993703 (OP)
So what did Toby do that makes Japan like these games so much? I feel like I’ve never seen people talk about that because even cope shitposting narratives don’t explain anything

>>723026813
Same reason why it was popular everywhere else - appealing characters, great music, good story, but it was also inspired by Japanese media a lot, and it also got a Japanese translation.

>>723026813
The game is kinda like Pokemon and Earthbound mixed together by them. Plus they are obsessed with the characters like us.

>>723000221
Toby has literally never written something sincere in his life. The community he lurked in and all the Earthbound fandoms and shit were at the cutting edge of the modern irony poisoning, and he's STILL best buds with Andrew "Post-Ironic Clowngender" Hussie. Any sincerity he claims to have put in is bland-name bullshit that makes people clap and go, "That's me!" the same way as fortune cookies and horoscopes write nonspecific feelgoodery.

>>722993703 (OP)
WORK ON THE GAME FAG DOG

>>723027929
>Chapter 5 delayed for 2027 (laughs)

>>722993703 (OP)
Why does toby hide his face, everybody knows what he looks like already

what would be the worst outcome for dessrielfags?

>>723021078
Wasn't Temmie his wife and also one behind design of many characters? Or was i memed and fooled?

>>723023506
He is an oldschool 90's JRPG fan as well as married and soon to have kids if he already doesn't have one. He will never bent the knee to any woke shit mental illness. He makes games that his kids gonna play. Which is also why o dont think he will force a lesbian stuff with Suselle just in case his kid is straight.

>>723030264
If she didn't age while in forma de caballo, this means she will have the same age as Kris. Just sayin'

>>722993703 (OP)
>He's the youngest dude at that table by like 30 years.

>>722993703 (OP)
I don't know why but it's funny to think that Toby might be the riches person in that room

I was against Toby because I thought he was Jewish but I found out he is (or was) Presbyterian or something like that so wish him the best.

>>723026813
Toby knows how to pander to autists and as it turns out Japan has a lot of autists

>>723030732
>tfw Toby is 3 years younger than me but already rich, popular, with loving family and living in the best country for nerds and weebs

>>723000774
unc opinion

>>723030859
I have no idea why people here think Toby is jewish, unironically

>>723030859
If he was Jewish you would have Kris and Susie visit a school to read about trans gender therapy and not attend a wholesome sermon in church along with choir singing

>>723026813
anon, his games are just borrowed JRPG tropes from famous old games.

>>723031097
yeah in this image
>>723030667
he looks like a Slav or Serb

>>722998397
The key to Toby Fox-ing it is
>Music
Absolutely key. It short-circuits people's brains. Good music in a game with non-objectionable gameplay will be hailed as an all-timer.
>Simple character designs
You want something fan artists can latch on to. Something even beginners can doodle and be happy with, but which more advanced artists can go to town with. Strong iconography.
>Eccentricity
Be casually, lightly weird in a way that inspires in-jokes.

Anyway he basically followed the ZUN model.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIv8MSJW4nQ

>>723000452
the messaging of the game has nothing to do with whether or not it is sincere mr.sociopath-kun

>>723027738
I can't go for that. He makes things too faithful to the originals he's aping for there to not be some love there. See >>723031202

>>723031202
And it also need to be focusing on friendly themes, while all the real life trauma should be more subtle. Heartbound was already on the nose with the missing dog and abusive mother storyline and music was also forgetable, it could never reach the level of Deltarune or Undertale

>>723031173
Slav here, he looks Caucasian or Central Asian.

>>722997637
you're a retard
>>723000871
>>723021137
you're retard bitches. how many earthbound-like games are there? like 5? and why are they categorized in that genre? just because they are not traditional jrpgs? just because they are like dragon quest but with quirky humor and emotional depth? fuck off
undertale is great because it has great ideas and interesting characters, while also having unique gameplay when having to pacify enemies
omori also is also trying to be an undertale wanna be but falls a bit short, probably because the story is a bit stupid. or at least, omori, the character, is

>>723031479
>while all the real life trauma should be more subtle
Yeah right

>>723031674
I mean it is still not as radical a fucking blood screen jumpscare with noose hanging like in the first minutes of Omori

>>723031990
The night is still young.

where is she?

>>723032960
There is an entire show just to figure that out

>>723032960
Where "she" belongs.

>>723032960
In Undertale. Frisk and Chara aren't going to be in Deltarune, little bro.

>>723033339
Context?

>>723034140
It's one samefagging retard from /vg/ that had been shitting up Deltarune threads for months and drove basically all the real people away.
That particular post was the one actual thing anyone actually asked them to do and fucked it up starting a vicious cycle of them getting progressively more mad about nobody liking them and their fantasy of everyone not liking them falling apart and eventually the Deltarune threads to go empty as they got more and more annoying, even if something could be said about how fucking many people never came back when 4chan went down.

>>723034140
It's a new thread schizo. Don't reply to it.

>>723034573
>Hey here's some really specific behavior that a certain someone does
>NO NO NO DON'T LOOK AT IT HE'S CRAZY STOP TALKING
No I think he's right on the money
Also that image is talking about what you're doing.

>>722998397
>Never played UT/DR
>I like some of his music a lot; it gets overhyped by his fans but
you probably find it overhyped because you didnt hear it in the context of the game

See where Toby is sitting?

That could have been you, Anon. If you just took the time to stop wasting your life away by doing absolutely nothing productive, you could have already created a phenomenon in gaming that rockets you up to the top echelon of game creators. You could be a fuckzillionaire by now.

So why aren't you?

>>722998397
>>723035878
post scriptum
part of what makes his music so liked and also not as interesting if you hear it out of context is that his music, specially the best tracks, relatively very 'functional' compared to most games

this is specially true for tthe motif autism because he doesnt really throw around it lightly. Like that one part of BIG SHOT where
>the superboss melody is established as a recurring thing
>it references the yellow soul fake-out superboss fight from the first game, which fans always wanted a real version of, and they finally got one

>>723035991
i have no talent, and i'm not willing to be a hack and steal all my ideas like this clown.

>>723036282
They keep telling us that you will own nothing and you will be happy. This is why you need to start stealing.

>>722996237
Old Japanese men aren't into femboys, he had to dress up for dinner. please understand, sister

>>722993703 (OP)
>jap version of epstein files

>>723035280
There's not really a point to anon, he's just going to keep doing this until even we get sick of him and he's just bot spamming 400 "reply" threads to himself alone.
He's been doing it for YEARS now.

>>722993703 (OP)
No womandevs?

>>723031674
Toriel did nothing wrong.

>>723040306
>nothing wrong
Is that what Sans is going by today?

>>723042174
Him and the whole town lmao