Thread 723003793

Estelle is the cutest girl in vidya!!

With so many girls in video games...that's debatable.

>>723004038
Nope, it's been settled!

>>723004038
It's not, haha...

Is it true that the script for this version comes directly from the original rather than from Western fan fiction? And if so, does anyone know how good it is?
I find it incomprehensible how difficult it is to get decent translations in games. In literature, when someone does a new and more faithful translation directly from the original language of a work, it becomes news and everyone celebrates. But apparently in the world of games, this is some kind of reactionary thing... It's forbidden to be faithful to the original authors, this makes consumers and journalists angry for some reason.

>>723004214
>>723004402
She has some competition at least. I'm just scratching the surface with those characters.

Kloe tummy

>>723004704
The script of the games that came out on PSP and PC like 15 years ago is mostly fine. I prefer it more than this modern one. The changes are mostly in humor: Estelle has a catchphrase she says repeatedly in Japanese and in the OG translated games she says shit like making people talk to broken teeth or hitting them with her big stick. And they also added a lovely little detail in that open chests have messages completely absent in the JP release.
This new translation works but is inconsistent. For example, a character starts calling one of the MCs "Mr." out of nowhere and it's this weird inbetween of wanting to go full weeb and include things like -san, -kun, -chan, etc and translating that into English. And it stands out as it is the ONLY game that does that. Then there are obvious signs of un revised literal MTLslop. The humor falls flat most of the time, but the game is still fun and the translation works. It is just incongruent with later works.

But, it is worth noting that the most recent arc, Daybreak, has instances of humor being shoved in just because, especially in instances where characters in Japanese are 100% serious and not trying to be humourous.

what do you guys think about her nasally english voice

>>723006969
Thank you for the detailed explanation.

>>723007747
No problem.
I think the marketing for this game and people's reaction to it give the impression that the original translated game was just fanfic and that is not the case. It did switch things up but stuck to humor.
The newer translations are the ones that are running rampant with forced humor and memes. I would prefer if Falcom had stuck with Xseed, but the quality of their work came at the cost of time. They were way too slow and I guess Falcom lost trust.

>>723007375
I feel the same way I feel about Rex in XB2:
It's a mostly bad performance that at best sounds okay, but most of the time it's pretty bad. Sheh's best voice to me is Natalia's from Tales of the Abyss. I think a lower range works well for her.
Everyone else but Estelle and Agate sounds fine. I dunno how the dude voicing Agate still finds work he sucks lol

>>723006969
>But, it is worth noting that the most recent arc, Daybreak, has instances of humor being shoved in just because, especially in instances where characters in Japanese are 100% serious and not trying to be humourous.
Have any specific examples?

>>723003793 (OP)
Tough question but who is the better protagonist Estelle or Rance? Been wondering for a while.

>>723004214
>>723003793 (OP)
Rean is so lucky

>>723010532
They're incredibly different but also both chads, so up to personal preference.
I like cute girls with a little innocence more so Estelle for me.

>>723006969
isnt daybreak just geofaggots hired for an official translation

>>723011352
Both characters enhance their story with pure personality. That's why I think they are similar. Can't imagine Sky without Estelle and can't imagine any Rance game without Rance.

>>723003793 (OP)
Crappy taste. Renne mogs her massively at 12. Estelle is just too plain, nothing going for her. Unless you like stepcest, I guess. You fuck.

>>723011652
not everything is porn coombrain

>>723003793 (OP)
Anyone know how to get a cracked copy to work on steamdeck?

>>723011652
Renne is a completely generic lolicon fantasy character with a stereotypical animeslop dude child rape lmao backstory

I remember in the original there was a cat translation book and every single cat's dialogue in the Sky games could be decyphered using that and it actually made sense. Is it still like that in the remake or did they fuck it up?

>>723011812
When I said "mogs her massively at 12", I meant already. But you actually didn't say anything about Estelle there at all. I have won this thread. It's time to let it die.

>>723005346
Name these characters and their games

>>723010532
Rance without question. Estelle is not a good or interesting protagonist. She's just "fine".

>>723012680
Wrong.

>>722988403
This is one of my biggest gripes with cold steel as a whole, the cast of villains is so weak. When you're going through the final dungeon in CS4 every single one of them has the exact same disposition of "haha.. I don't really want to do this but this is the path I chose.." which leads to them being instantly redeemed the second all that shit was over. Completely lame.
The difference between them and the original cast of enforcers in SC is they get closure though their final conflicts, not redemption. They all chose their paths and were happy to continue going down it, except Loewe who died anyway

>>723012468
Firis Mistlud (Atelier)
Yuki Kinjou (Blue Reflection: Second Light)
Chihiro Inoue (Blue Reflection)
Chocola (Nekopara)
Connie (MeiQ: Labyrinth of Death)
Hibari (Senran Kagura)

I don't know if this is a spoiler or not, but I think Estelle's father is one of the worst characters in the series.
He's kind of like that badass guy that everyone respects and fears, including the badass villains who have moves that seem completely impossible to deal with, but at the same time, he does absolutely NOTHING in the first two games of the series, except show up to save the protagonists in the cutscenes after the protagonists have already done all the work fighting.
He's supposedly one of the most powerful guys in the world, but you never see him do anything useful when you really need it and you're completely screwed.

>>723013349
Arigato

>>723013495
He's arguably the biggest Gary Stu in the entire series, especially in SC where it feels like he has a copy of the black records and can see the future. I'm actually glad Rean kicked his ass in CS4.

>>723013084
McBurn is kino though

>>723014271
Lmfao

>>723014560
Sounds like someone isn't ALL OF ME

>>723014271
The only cool thing he ever did was also the last thing he ever did

>>723003793 (OP)
>run into Agate
>"w-whoa... the Heavy Blade.... he's so strong...!"
>joins the party later on
>he's the weakest member by far
Mogged by children. The absolute state of Agate.

I did think it was neat later on though when he fights the silver-haired man and he tells Agate "you need to either throw everything away and become a demon, or let your rage go and live as a human". And that matches up with why he's so shit in combat. If he calmed down and his crafts were more tactical and could inflict more statuses, he'd be way better. If he went full ungabunga and had S+ damage crafts, he'd be better too. Instead he's this shitty middle ground. Only there to eat damage like a meatshield and use items. Like the party butler.

>Entered the final dungeon with two reciped still left to cook
Fuck, did I just screw myself out of getting all of them or do the enemies in the dungeon drop ingredients?

>>723016120
you need to farm crates in the dungeon, hoping to rng the ingredients you need, besides, you gotta do ng+ to get 100% achievements, you are an actual real fan who will get 100% achievements right?

>>723015642
Haha...
Agate is a virgin manchild, please be nice to him!

>>723004704
It's pretty great aside from chapter 3 and the finale which throws in shit like totes and welp randomly. Overall it's way better than the shit XSEED put out.

Tita!

>>723008509
To be fair SC is where the fanfic shit really started and went off the rails.

>>723017359
>>723017464
I'm gonna say it.
Trails doesn't have good lolis.

>>723017359
she cute

>>723017652
You don't like Tita, Renne, or even Kea?

>Tita and Renne grew up
I mean before that

>>723003793 (OP)
Tita is much cuter and I think Estelle herself would agree. I do agree Estelle is pretty cute though. I just made it to Zeiss, and I can't fucking take it. In the original Tita is cute of course but with the updated graphics, I can't stop staring at her model. I also checked the mods and to my relief, they do show off her cute tummy. Estelle and Agate are so lucky, holy shit she is like the perfect little sister.

>>723017652
Altina by herself makes this a 10/10 loli series.

>>723017652
I don't agree, but I do think it has way more/better hebes than lolis

sorry joshua

>>723018045
I just got to Zeiss too
>meet Tita for the first time
>think "aww, she's cute"
>first thing Joshua says after she leaves is "she's cute"
>Estelle immediately agrees
based

Estelle is a great character and all but for me, it's Towa.

>>723018045
>t. Estelle

>>723019156
Based TowaGOD

>>723017359
I want to be pushed into a box with her

>>723019156
I get you, you want a girl your size. For me it's Estelle/Anelace/Duvalie

Who will you take in SC? Schera-nee or fAgate?

>>723019406
I went with Schera. Agate is kind of a dickhead and Schera just vanishes after Sky so you're better off using her in the party whenever you can.

>>723019406
whoever is better in gameplay

>>723019584
You're taking Schera then

>>723019156
Towa is second best for me, haha.
Good taste tho

You know a game is shit when every thread about it is just waifushittery.

You know a game is goated when every thread about it is just waifuworship

>>723019909
Cringe

>>723019986
Based

I wouldn't say I worship Estelle
but there's a first time for everything

Getting real tired of the Cassius wank

>>723020473
Eh? Cassius? You mean... Cassius Bright?! The genius from the war? So you're his kid... huh... well maybe that means you're worth something after all..... if you know Cassius Bright... the genius bracer...

trails of daybreak 2 was dogshit, i couldnt get past the part where that one guy turned into a fucking angel

>>723020473
wait until you reach cold steel, you'll begin to miss how tame the cassius wank was.

>>723020473
you'll miss the Cassius wank when you get to Rean's games.

>>723020687
Why? Rean wank never gets as bad as Cassius wank cause Rean gets shat on more than he is praised.

>>723021109
they treat Rean with kids gloves. Rean still gets wanked 10x harder than Cassius, hell even Cassius wanks Rean

Oh wow. I don't normally bother with buffs but in this game they're actually useful

>>723021210
Not even close mate. I played FC through CS and then FC again and no character gets obnoxiously jacked off as much as Cassius. Play the games

>>723021724
I have played them, I'm telling you Cassius wank isn't that bad in either FC or SC.

>>723021509
I can't imagine how one could play nightmare without at least Clock-Up EX and Earth Guard. I cheesed every Chapter 2 boss with Chaos Brand too. Genuinely no idea how you're supposed to beat the dogs without that.

Apologize

>>723015642
Huh? Agate is really good in this game unlike FC. Crafts are actually good in the remake and Agate easily makes a joke out of everything once you get him. Can literally spam S-Breaks and you only need to do that 4 times at most.

Remember that time Cassius jobbed offscreen during the tournament just so Falcom didn't have to bother making new animations for his boss fight?

>>723004038
The only other girls in competition (by anyone serious) come from japenese games. And estellle btfo of them all.

>>723022136
this shit is painful to look at after getting used to Sky 1st's new style

>>723022037
YOU apologize for being OLD

>>723021859
I just damage raced the dogs with Estelle spamming AoE arts and Sylphen Wind. Joshua on delay/clock up EX and Kloe on healing/clock up EX duty. Completely ignored the less Def or Arts Def gimmick.

trails of subhumans

Tio-chan is my trails waifu

>>723022406
>45
Literal dinosaur fossil lmao

I really like this outfit. The half-skirt is a bit dumb, but the color scheme is great.

>>723022136
It's becoming painfully obvious when a character won't appear simply because Falcom didn't create a new model for them. This shit is all over Kuro

>>723003793 (OP)
>playing a censored BlackRock-funded demake
Just get the originals off GOG you retards.

>>723023296
Shut the fuck up dumbass.

>>723022726
Olivier is by far the funniest character in this remake.

>>723023347
Don't eat bait

>>723023347
I'm not the one playing a shitty demake that has "we sold our souls to jewish capital" written all over it. If this were a western company or Capcom/Square Enix (but I repeat myself), /v/tards would be up their fucking asses over this, but because it's Falcom, there's this blind spot for some reason.

>>723022726
>>723023456
I love this zesty nigga he's funny as fuck

Shizuna Rem Misurugi is my wife

Tita and Agate are so cute together

>>723023213
>Olivier and Schera make a cameo in Daybreak's ending
>But their child (who should logically be there with them) doesn't, because Falcom is now faced with the daunting task of depicting a mixed race kid in a way that isn't offensive
Like seriously, wtf is their kid gonna look like? The anime staple of "mini clone of the mother/father" isn't gonna apply here.
Spoiled just in case there really are people in the thread playing Sky remake as their first game.

>>723023213
They basically copypasted Zin's Daybreak model into Sky 1st.
I wouldn't be surprised to see way more Liberlel characters in Kai 2, slap an eye patch into Olivier, give Cassius the Royal Guard fit, DONE.

What determines when I cast magic? Sometimes it's 5 enemy turns later and sometimes it's immediately after I start casting.
Is it just that enemies take actions that have longer delay than me casting magic?

>>723024054
>I wouldn't be surprised to see way more Liberlel characters in Kai 2
Anelace bros... we won

>>723024106
Different spells have different delay assigned to them. Some spells are quick, others take longer.

>>723024054
>They basically copypasted Zin's Daybreak model into Sky 1st.
Which is sad because his Daybreak model fucking sucks.

i will miss the old art style

>>723024106
>>723024971
and you can get items that cut down on cast time

>>723017359
Why did she violate Estelle?

So the prince is absolutely still alive isn't he. No way a "Maritime accident" kills anyone in this universe

>>723003793 (OP)
Not even the cutest (or hottest) in her own games.

>>723026157
dude, nobody dies ever in this series

Estelle has a cute butt

>>723027023
otto...

*Sigh* I missed a quest deadline. It's not like I'm going for a 100% run but it sure bums me out seeing that red x on the quest log.

Kiseki has to be the series that you only love as a teenager or as an adult retard
I used to love this shit ten years ago, now I've realized they're all 6/10 at best
The music until Hajimari remains great though

>>723028309
I am an adult retard so I enjoy them

>>723003793 (OP)
I fucking hate LRG, still waiting for my fucking copy

Who the hell fights with a stick?

>>723024106
Also worth mentioning that the game isn't counting time in number of turns. There is an actual timeline, it just doesn't show it, so if several enemy turns happen to occur close together it can be hard for even a quick spell to sneak it before them.

>>723028309
>if you don't think exactly the way I do you are a retard
This is what we call the hubris of a rètard

>>723028309
What series is enjoyed by high IQ adults?

>>723028594
pokemon

>>723021792
>Cassius wank isn't that bad in either FC or SC.
LOL
>hey we need to organize an international incident in another country to lure this ONE GUY away because otherwise he'd fuck up our plans so bad we'd have 0% chance of success.

>>723028309
Feeling like you have to change what you enjoy as you grow up is a cucked mentality. Yeah this series isn't high art, but I still love it

>>723028774
There are tons of things I enjoyed as a kid or a teen that I still love today
Kiseki is just so heavily flawed it doesn't stand the test of time

>>723028772
This is a JRPG you're talking about. One guy can be Cloud Strife, Adol, Demi Fiend ect. who could take down hundreds of thousands of guys at full power. All this proves is Ouroboros were smart enough to get him out of the picture while also extracting info from him with Joshua.

>>723028145
>Estelle my child, you must always make sure to do plenty of squats to build up your muscles. Also you must wear skintight spats with no underwear and no skirt. This is the secret to becoming a true Bracer
Was Cassius secretly based all along?

>>723025281
I miss all the girls having slightly chunky arms and legs. Estelle is too much of a twig now.

>>723028309
What is the problem with enjoying a 6 out of 10.

>>723028774
>B
OMG it's Haruhi!

>>723028774
Musse was that big?

Reminder that Genshin does everything Kiseki does but better when it comes to lore and world building

>>723029114
They say that about Joshua and he got his ass beat by Cassius.

>>723029257
I'll be honest the whole "worldbuilding" angle always felt like dumb artificial hype.

>>723027023
They kill the strongest woman in the series in the gayest way possible by one of the gayest characters who gets away with everything.

>>723029114
This guy really got the short end of the stick. A bunch of people still talk about him as one of the strongest sword users to have ever lived but with the power creep of the series you just can't imagine it with what you see in his games.

>>723029257
>spaceship
Also I can make it through 1 billion hahas but the dialogue in that game kills me.

>>723029310
that's the point anon, Joshua was never gonna beat Cassius in a straight up fight but he might have gotten him if Cassius let his guard down. He's considered on the weaker side as far as fighting but his covert skills are top tier

>>723029524
>No. All legends must have an end. It's time to put you to rest
KINO

>>723029682
Filtered

>>723020473
Honestly it wouldn't be so bad if Estelle knew literally anything about her father.

Her constantly going "WHAT!?" all the times irks me.

>>723029524
>by one of the gayest characters who gets away with everything
I also thought that about him, but little did I know all it would take to make him permissible was making a protagonist and give him a fun crew. Turns out he just made a dogshit villain but his smug shtick can actually be fun when he's tardwrangling a crew that's fucking around 24/7

>>723029608
> bunch of people still talk about him as one of the strongest sword users
he's in the latest Ys vs Trails game also, Japan really liked him. Kondo is just giving fanservice since the new games suck and the japanese fanbase started shrinking.

>>723012680
Doesn't that make her the best female protagonist of all time, by default?

i played the remake, my first introduction to estelle, everyone here saying she's a "great character" and i honestly dont see it. all i saw was typical cringe animeshit with a side of EEEEEHHHH NANDEEEEH? KYAAAAAAAAAAA sperging out over her feelings for joshua, which by the way, as literal old man irl, why should I give a fuck or subject myself to a teenage girl acting retarded around a boy she likes?

>>723029608
I can't remember how many times a character in this series has compared themself or someone else to the bladelord, but the funniest one to me will always be Yin in Ao because she immediately gets BTFO'd by Arianrhod

>>723030592
>he played the demake
a tragedy

>>723030723
Fuck... I'm no different from those people who played the FF7 Demake instead of the original

>>723030592
There are two estelles and you are experiencing the nu version. The one "everyone grew up with" is in the OGs. Also
>as literal old man irl
A bit late to start playing JRPGs if this is your reaction.

>>723030723
We won't get this will we?

>>723030927
i grew up playing jrpgs, not ALL of them are cringe, sometimes i have to step over that line just to have something to play though

>>723004402
Estelle-nee...

>>723020473
I don't have a problem with Cassius wank considering he gets powercrept immediately by Arios in Crossbell

>>723029972
I liked that part because that's very realistic. Usually, children have zero idea about parents' job.

Bitch

>started playing demo for 4h
>"I wonder how it compares to the original, I played it so long ago"
>install original game
>beat the prologue
>decide it's better
I am not interested in the remake anymore. The only improvement are voice acting and cutscenes. Everything else is a downgrade. Expecially combat.

>>723031570
She just wants richard to belong to only her.

I just wish Cassius had cooler facial hair.

The fucking mustache is not cool

>>723029379
Roido...
The TRVE hero of Zemuria...

>>723031570
Richard should have won.

>>723031570
Wife

>>723031638
That's fine, play whichever you like better. As long as you're supporting the games and not skipping straight to Cold Steel like a fag then do what you want

>>723029379
When did Lance become that good looking?

>>723015642
>Agate
>Weak
Lmfao. In the original FC sure but in the remake he's broken.

>>723030592
I'm guessing you're not a father? She's a fairly realistic (if exaggerated) representation of a 16-year-old girl, equal parts sweet and insufferable. The humor comes not from what Estelle says but from how the other characters react to it.

>>723021109
>Gets shat on
Lmfao. We got a Reanfag here upset there's other characters getting wanked. Everyone point and laugh at him.
The entire Cold Steel series is everyone sucking him off.

>>723031638
there is a voice mod for FC, SC and the 3rd

>>723032342
nta, but any clips of it in action

>>723029712
Saying Joshua can kill thousands and having Cassius body him so thoroughly is high grade wanking.

that demo was hot ass until I got to actually press buttons. does the story git gud at least

>>723021792
I agree. I don't know where this narrative comes from. I think people tend to exaggerate their recollections because our memories condense things into stereotypes, rather than recalling everything in full detail.

>>723032503
Yes but it's better in the original.

>>723032503
Not until SC. FC's story is pretty low scale until the final chapter and mostly setting things up.

>>723031036
No and that's a good thing.

>>723032640
FC picks up in chapter 3.
Chapter 2 if you're astute at picking up foreshadowing.

>>723029114
>>723029608
In the game's defense most people talk about how much potential he had. He was already insanely strong and was only getting stronger. I think Arianrhod mentions somewhere that he would pass her up soon.

>>723032341
Yeah, I'll never understand why Reanfags act like he doesn't get wanked extremely hard. If anything, the fact that he loses and STILL gets wanked hard makes it worse since he's getting undeserved praise just because he's the MC.

>>723023213
Yes, but that's hardly unique to this series. You see it in long-running TV and movie series as well when a particular actor isn't available for a given installment. It's one of the advantages that novels have over other forms of media.

>>723030125
As a villain, he's for women. They adore arrogant pretty boy villains for some reason.

>>723032775
That's a decent comparison, but I imagine it'd be easier to get an actor to come film for a day to do a one-off cameo, than it would be to create a character model for a one-off cameo. The latter is unlikely especially since Falcom is pretty small and probably working with a tight budget.

>>723031570
She's a bit weak as a character but god damn you gotta respect her loyalty.
Her appearance in SC is actually one of my favorite scenes screaming at them to just execute her and give it over with then breaking down when Richard walks in and tells her its over. Underrated scene.

>>723026935
puta

>>723017359
Agate is such a lucky guy

>>723032989
You'd be surprised. Having to deal with someone that owes nothing to you can be a massive headache.

>>723032993
Richard must have saved her as a child or something because she's loyal to a fault.

>>723032993
they ever explain why she's so loyal, or did she just want his 8 leaf blade?

>>723028309
I still enjoy the series but yeah after a few years you really start to realize how flawed a lot of it is and how it was kinda overhyped online for a lot of years. It's a mostly 7/10 series that has occasional moments of brilliance and moments where it is legitimately some of the worst shit I've ever sat through in my entire life.

The worldbuilding initially seems kinda neat but the more games you play the more you realize just how fundamentally shallow it all is and how little overall direction there seems to be with the series considering how much it completely changes direction from arc to arc. I think it only really got this reputation because of the character cameos because the actual worldbuilding isn't really any more in depth than the average JRPG, there's just more of it. But more =/= depth especially in this case. I've come to terms with it over the years but it does feel like wasted potential and people have way oversold it.

The gameplay is sorta fun but it's utterly brainless and Falcom just entirely refuse to do even the most rudimentary balancing pass on it so every game just ends up broken as shit filled with mechanics that all feel undercooked.

>>723033035
>puta
for Joshua only

>>723033384
>>723033392
Richard is just that good and charismatic.
3rd had a scene where a former subordinate shows up and BEGS him to come back to the army.

>>723032993
>>723031570
>Girl boss that reaches her 30s without having any kids.
What a tragic character

>>723033397
Yeah, CS4 undoing pretty much everything from CS3 plus the overall ending of CS4 made me drop it. I hear it's even worse in Reverie. So I just enjoy the time I spent on the game.

>>723033384
>>723033392
I honestly always just assumed she was won over by his natural charisma and love for the country over any crazy single event. They also have more in common, as it's stated several times Kanone isn't a very strong fighter and was more renowned in the academy for her tactics. Richard is the same way where he's very crafty and smart tactically but not a very strong fighter.

>>723033519
Technically the last time we saw her she was like 26 or 27 or something. It COULD have happened... but knowing Falcom, lmfao. It's a miracle Olivier and Schera have gotten as far as they have honestly.

>>723033683
After Cassius left Richard was the strongest person in the army.

>>723033397
I would say CS is a 7/10. The rest is good, but I will agree the more exposed you are to its writing it hits a little less.
Like I just did the Leiston Fortress shit and ok, Major Cid knows Cassius. Fair enough. But the whole "a boat is ready for you' asspull I didn't even think twice about when I first played FC.

>>723033883
they are going to be background npcs going forward so that's why they did something with them.

>>723020473
It's only dumb because they wank him so much and then immediately make like 3-4 characters stronger than him including Rean who is the protagonist of like 5 games.

>>723033397
>The worldbuilding initially seems kinda neat but the more games you play the more you realize just how fundamentally shallow it
Pretty much, it's funny how despite all of its issues Cold Steel has the strongest worldbuilding thanks to the Black Records actually giving you insight into the history of Erebonia.
It's fucking insane to me that we still haven't read the Testaments and learned more about the Primal Grounds, despite knowing about their existence since the 3rd.

>>723033397
If this is 7/10, what's 10/10 to you?
Average JRPG wordbuilding is theme park style. You have towns based around a particular theme (the industrial town, the furry town, the tropical foreigners town, etc.) and most everything flows from it in a very predictable way. This series is certainly a step above that: each city normally has some sort of coherent role in the region's political economy, and you get added depth from meeting the key players, learning their history and pivotal life events, that sort of thing.

>>723033912
I mean sure but on the bigger scale Richard is nothing power wise.

>>723013957
He's not a Gary Stu because he's cool and charismatic while Rean is a fucking charisma black hole. Also he didn't "kick his ass" he literally just passed a test to show that he had what it takes to master Void.
Seriously though I don't understand any issues with Cassius, he's presented as highly competent but not infallible, great supporting character.

>>723033939
>This guy was so good with a sword he is called the Divine Blade
>Oh uh actually theres like 8 Divine Blades and he's the only one just called "divine blade" instead of "divine blade of x" and he's also the weakest one
Why do Japs love this sort of powercreep lol

>>723029524
>They kill the strongest woman in the series
Highly debatable on various levels.
Also, she was physically, emotionally and mentally just done with all of the bullshit and she still had to be killed by one of the strongest characters present, in a sneak attack with a bullshit magical mech
This is trails, someone at that level can only die taking a shot for someone else or through bullshit. Never as a result of a stright up fight.

>>723033515
>>723033683
Richard was the best villain in Trails. Guy just did what he had to do. Why? Because of the love of his country. And even when he lost and quit the army when asked he said "I still think what I did was the right thing to do" even though he tried to overthrow the legitimate Queen of the country.
I wish Japan latched on to him like they did Loewe. He is still my favorite male character in the series and I hope he will return someday.

>>723033519
She can join the lonely cake club with Sara, Claire, Sharon, Vita, and many more. It'll be an international alliance rivalling the one Towa works for.

>>723013495
Dude Cassius is so powerful the villains literally had to concoct an international scheme just to get him out of the country so that they could do their plot. In the later games they don't even bother they just tell you a guy is powerful and expect you to just believe it instantly.

>>723034202
>He's not a Gary Stu because he's cool and charismatic while Rean is a fucking charisma black hole.
lol

>>723034271
He's my favorite character in the series. I'm kinda glad he never showed up again though because I haven't enjoyed any returning character since Cold Steel. They all feel either useless or flanderized to hell.

>>723034271
Same. Richard is great. The main reason why I want a remake of 3rd.
Too bad there's so many retards that mistakenly think he's a misogynist.

>>723034271
He's a really good example of a non evil villain imo. I never expected him to defend Estelle & co. the first playthrough of FC.

>>723034271
Except he didn't "have to do" any of that, as shown by Queen Alicia maintaining Liberl afloat and thriving without the need for a military dictatorship. He was overly paranoid and controlling and explicitly being manipulated by an evil man to further his ends, classic good intentions gone wrong. Same thing as Dieter Crois except Dieter actually had more of a point since Crossbell suffered in the short term without him.

>>723033397
Honestly, no, it's perfectly serviceable JPRG techno fantasy setting with arguably above average world building and certainly above average character writing.
90% of people 'realising' how 'bad' it is, is a direct consequence of the weird content sterilization in CS3/4 and that CS4 is an avenger's assemble wank off to its own existence (and completely failing to stick the landing regarding the septerrions). Both directly make the world feel simultaneously small and unrealistic (which is the opposite of the premise of the series).

>>723034471
The whole setup with Dieter was excellent but my god did they royally shit the bed when it came time to pay it all off. A problem with the series in general really. They can just almost never stick the landing.

Say
His
Name

>>723034471
He wasn't manipulated.

>>723034340
>In the later games they don't even bother they just tell you a guy is powerful and expect you to just believe it instantly
I think they've done a good enough job of making powerful people feel powerful. That is, until Kasim. They introduce him as "the strongest warrior who ever lived" which is an absolute joke, dude has never done anything of note except shoot his stupid railgun.
If they went with "strongest jaeger currently alive" I'd find that hard to believe but it wouldn't be nearly as egregious with Rutger and Baldur dead, and Sigmund seemingly out of action. But no, they had to just go way too far.

>>723034471
???
Richard was LITERALLY proven right about everything he said the very next game.
The moment Liberl had a moment of weakness Erebonia rolled in with tanks and tried to start shit again. THE ONLY REASON they failed was because Cassius and Olivier managed to thwart the invasion and trick them into holding off long enough to get rid of the Aureole.
If Cassius hadn't rejoined the army after FC Erebonia would have marched into the country again, just like he said would happen.

>>723034471
Queen Alicia was a retard that gave away their military superiority for no reason. If Erebonia or Calvard invaded again Liberl would have been destroyed.

>>723034630
>They introduce him as "the strongest warrior who ever lived"
this line was actually a nisa mistranslation im pretty sure

>>723034556
I don't agree I fucking love Azure's ending and never got the complaints around it, only thing that should've happened is some bad guys dying (especially Sigmund and the lawyer)

>>723034556
>>723034471
Unfortunately Deiter is shit since he is behind the DG cult

>>723034623
He has literally, explicitly been hypnotized by Weissman lol

>>723034556
>>723034471
Dieter was just BadRichard.
Fucking shame because he should have been another homerun. Instead, for some reason they make him go crazy and evil and talk about taking over the world whenever he gets Kea. If they had just kept him where he was (wanting Crossbell to be independent and free of others) then there would have been actual reasons to doubt if what the SSS was doing was right. Instead he just goes crazy and talks about holding other nations at gunpoint so the SSS comes off as saviors.

>>723034696
If that's true then that's by far the worst thing they've ever done (that I'm aware of), because it completely turned me against his character from the beginning.

>>723034630
>That is, until Kasim. They introduce him as "the strongest warrior who ever lived" which is an absolute joke, dude has never done anything of note except shoot his stupid railgun.
You better watch out, or Kasim will start counting!
>>723034696
Yeah. I think the actual implication is "the strongest KRUGA warrior" which makes sense. But calling him the strongest warrior in general or even the strongest jaeger is obviously laughable. Sigmund would fold Kasim in half.

>>723034865
they still fumbled his debut in kuro 1 but i think the actual line is just him being among the strongest warriors, not THE strongest warrior ever

>>723034832
He was given the black orbment and told the location (supposedly) of the Aureole while having his memory wiped of where he got the orbment or who told him. That's it.
Hell actually he still remembers where he got the orbment as it's openly stated Lorence gave it to him.

>>723034770
I'm of two minds. I thought overall it worked with Crossbell being annexed. However, everything in the Azure tree can suck a fat dick.

>>723034696
>Ah, the strongest soldier currently serving, no, one of the strongest in history, nicknamed "Khamsin"—
Seems like they fucked up

>>723034832
It's memory loss, not hypnotism. He was told about the Aureole but then his memory was wiped as to who or how he got that knowledge.

Pay attention next time.

>>723034271
>And even when he lost and quit the army when asked he said "I still think what I did was the right thing to do" even though he tried to overthrow the legitimate Queen of the country.
I don't remember that, but I do remember picrel. I'm not saying you're wrong, but his views on the matter are a bit more nuanced than you're letting on.

>>723034646
The idea is to keep Calvard and Erobnia equal and in an uneasy stalemate meaning if one or the other invaded the diversition of reasourcve would cause the other to gain the upperhand on an inevitable 'main front'.

The issue with this is
1. Realistically, Clavard and liberl would be closer anyway as not only has erebonia tried invading in living memory, but also they're literally the evil empire next door; and
2. Clavard's military has been comically useless at all times before the daybreak games, there is no reason liberl should have any faith they could stop erebonia, so giving erebonia anything was a fuck up.

>>723035145
i think he means the door in 3rd when he says that the reason he declined returning to the army was because he would do it all again without hesitation if he felt that his country was threatened and he didn't want to put himself in the position where he had to make that choice again

>>723035145
It's in his star door in 3rd.
He says the reason he'll never go back to the army is because he feels the same way as he felt before and that if the opportunity presented itself he'd potentially do it all over again.

Did they keep the line when Lowe says "I trust you will not be offended if I choose not to go easy on you because you are women"?

>>723035145
Happens in 3rd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPJ9AAL7H50

>>723034908
>>723034936
>let's use this mysterious device I got from an unknown source I mysteriously can't remember that conveniently benefits my own goals!
Definitely not being manipulated btw

>>723034640
Nothing Richard did helped to prevent that, at best you can argue his plan happening and failing lead to Cassius rejoining the army which saved Liberl from Erebonia but that wasn't his goal. If he'd won it's much more likely Cassius would've remained in the bracer guild. And at that point you're getting into hypotheticals so you can easily imagine a situation where they succeed anyway without Cassius in the army (such as Olivier cooperating with the bracer guild in some way).

>>723034554
>when the genders get split camp gets put on the female side

What is camp hiding from us?

>>723035208
No. That was either intentional XSEED fuck up or one of their accidental fuck ups. The remake fixes it. The original is:
>お前たちが女であろうが手加減をするつもりはない……

>>723034630
He's not even the strongest character in Daybreak 2.

>>723035208
He actually says the opposite. Women or not, I won't hold back on you.

>>723035507
Zin is such a fucking jobber in Daybreak. Even funnier because Walter is the exact opposite and is a gigachad who beats the fuck out of everyone.

The remake is so fucking soulless

>>723035168
Anon, I'll play devils advocate and tell you why the Queen actually proposed the engine/non-aggression pact.

Around the time of the Sky games, Erebonia built the massive railway guns in Garellia fortress aimed at Calvard and Crossbell. Calvard was so pissed they were about to declare war. (there is a line about this in CS2 but I did not screencap it) The Queen due to her pacifist nature decided to give away her weapons so they don't fight and save lives. That's literally it.

>>723035550
Why did they do Zin so dirty.

>>723035507
who's the brown tomboy (my weakness), she cute

>>723035192
I interpret that as being afraid that he would fail again in the same way. It's an admission of his character flaw, not a claim that he was right all along.

>>723035507
The Geneses are such retarded plot devices

>>723035507
>They're
PLEASE tell me this actually refers to a group and not just fucking Zin.

>>723035609
because of his cuck tier mentality. Won't accept S rank because he feels he can't live up to cassius. Can't beat walter because of feelings. He's got no self esteem.

>>723035648
Feri. She is 14 and childish.

Aaaah I can't wait for the 1st person mode patch on switch

>>723035507
this game was either the biggest elaborate shitpost self-parody of all time or literally nobody involved in its development gave a single fuck at all and im gonna guess its the latter

>>723035341
>Nothing Richard did helped to prevent that
(nta) I agree with that, but he was right in diagnosing problems with the state of Liberl. I think Alicia even has a line to that effect.

>>723035689
Respect Zin's pronouns chud, it's they/zhem.
They're referring to both Zin and Kilika

>>723035689
It's Zin and Kilika lol

>>723035687
Yeah the Geneses are like everything wrong with macguffins distilled into one.

>>723035656
Rewatch the scene dude.

>>723035771
>blind desire
>terrifies me
My conclusion is correct. He's avoiding military service in part because he doesn't trust himself.

>>723035865
Richard-sama...

>>723035764
quat gets away with it because it was experimented on by seemingly the only actual bad group in the series and follows biblical angelic lore.

>>723035934
meant for >>723035865

>>723033683
3rd Evo's CGs are so fucking bad, man. Look at her uniboob.

Oh well, at least they're fun for edits.

>>723035751
i hate how excessively humble people are in this series i know its a japanese thing but it just makes everyone needlessly annoying

Dude. I thought Calvard was gonna be all Chinese due to the "Calvard District" in Crossbell

Sex with Rean Schwarzer haha

>>723036051
falcom have retconned calvard so many times cause they had no fucking idea what calvard was supposed to be until they actually started making it even though they had 20 years

>>723036054
My hero...

>>723036054
t. Crow Armbrust

>>723036112
Why have you done this...? Why did you show it to me?

>>723036051
Seemed like it was just a place full of immigrants from the get go. You hear about how it has internal strife between people because of the different cultures pretty early on in the series.

>>723036112
Man is nothing without his porn stache

>>723035771
It's certainly not intended entirely seriously. There are lots of instances of characters winking at the camera (sometimes literally).
The series has always had a bit of self aware humor to it, but Daybreak 2 pushes it to outright farce at times.

>>723035963
Also literally a hermaphrodite, and thankfully they don't try to pull any "identities as X" crap when they officially reveal that

>>723036101
my eiyuu

>>723036178
I guess, but even the NPCs from there were like Mr. Ching chang and stuff.

>>723036112
He looks like he has the most awesome daughter ever

>>723036184
idk having characters constantly wink and the camera and go "wow why did you even do that heh get it cause it was pointless" just annoys me it just feels very lazy and dishonest especially in a game that is supposed to be your big follow up
if this was specifically a parody spinoff then maybe i could get behind it but this was a mainline sequel

>>723036292
Their president was called Samuel Rocksmith since Sky 3rd, doesn't sound very chinese to me

>>723036320
I'm not saying you have to like it, but I don't see how that's "dishonest". As I said, I think this sort of light parody humor has been present in all of the games, they just took it farther there.

Behold the actual strongest character in the series

>>723036108
sex with crow too

>>723036481
>that connect event in 2 where he talks about breaking up with his gf
Such a great moment and most people won't see it unless they reload. Seriously hate how cold steel introduced that persona bullshit where you just can't see everything in one go.

>>723036292
Even as early as SC you had characters like
Elsa Cochrane and Rocksmith from Calvard who don't have any Asian influence.

>>723036453
its dishonest because instead of actually improving the writing and doing something interesting they just do the same old shit and then throw in some line poking fun at how its the same old shit and because they acknowledged it its now supposed to be okay somehow
its the same thing behind when people try to make a movie that is "shit on purpose", it's just dishonest and hiding the fact that you're afraid to actually be genuine and take chances

>>723036481
This guy warmed up my bench in Kuro 2 like nobody else could

>>723036560
You mean Zero, which did it way worse. With the Cold Steel games all you need to do is download a complete save and you're good to go. Did they make it stupid again in Daybreak?

>>723003793 (OP)
she's cute but nowhere near close to cutest

>>723036560
Thank god for cheat engine.

>>723036653
I'm talking about the connect events which pop up multiple times throughout the game that CS1 introduced. Zero just has 1 unique scene based on affection so it doesn't feel like that big of a deal since it's mostly non-canon romance.

>>723036560
>Seriously hate how cold steel introduced that persona bullshit where you just can't see everything in one go
You can in NG+, they just went full retard in Daybreak and ruined a good system, although I've heard they've fixed it in Kai.

>>723036784
How did they ruin it isn't it literally the same as it was in CS (which wasn't good in the first place, you just also had to reload to see everything).

>>723036784
How'd they ruin it?

>>723031570
Jobber
She even uses the fancy boss music only to fuck up again.

>>723036560
yeah i hate how starting with cs every relevant characters development exists in this weird state where a lot of their character development exists in this optional content limbo that just never really impacts the story and ruins a lot of the impact the characters otherwise could have

>>723036560
It's dumb, but normally it's easy enough to reload if you want to see everything. There might be a few events that require you to have seen an earlier one?

>>723036729
She is thoughever

>>723036850
>download NG+ save
>can see everything in one go
This is a problem unique to consoles.

What's her problem

Question about Cold Steel 3 and 4 on the PS5, it already comes with all DLC like 1 and 2 did on the ps4 right?

>>723036868
Man, Estelle really marches to the beat of her own drum when it comes to clothing.

>>723036948
Mentally challenged, but at least she's not Kloe

>>723036560
To think there are people that beat the game but didn't see Renne's final bonding scene.
Even her one in the first game where they discover Jeorg's letter is top tier

>want to play Calvard
>it's been fucking years since I touched this series and I pretty much forgot everything
aaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>723036850
>>723036861
If I wanted to replay Cold Steel right now I could see all the events since I've play it before, and even if I didn't I could get a save file. You can't do it in Daybreak and have to resort to cheat engine, even if you are doing the game in NG+, which is retarded because it wasn't an issue in the game where this system was introduced to begin with.

>>723037026
you legitimately did not miss anything

>>723037026
It's a new arc, you'll be eased into remembering all the important stuff, it's fine.

>>723037026
At this point just wait until it's finished.

>>723034271
>gets beat up
>I'LL SACRIFICE MUHSELF FOR YOU GUYS
What a weak ass bitch

>>723036868
Yeah I don't know why they play Silver Will for her, should have just been Recapture. She can't even S-Craft

>>723036868
I really like the detail of the controlling character looking at the closest character here.
It's like Estelle is talking shit to her.

>>723036481
I really don't like how this guy was handled. Like he was obviously shady but his big reveal just feels so unearned. I get that they wanted it to be a big twist but a good twist makes you think back and realize how stupid you were for not noticing it. With him it's just for shock value and they're going to retroactively try to explain it in the sequel. This arc just feels so ass backwards.

>>723037026
Calvard is kinda of a soft reboot anyways, most of references are just "Dicaprio pointing at the screen" tier.

Incest is wrong

>>723036948
stupid.

>>723037297
>>723037361

is this scene in the original

>>723037263
She looks up at this sign too.
I love little details like this in games. They're totally unnecessary, but it's fun when you notice them.

>>723037551
The dialogue yes, the visual no.

>>723037551
It is.

>>723037551
broken neck

>>723037551
Yes, you just don't see it as they are in the box with no cut in

>>723037551
>brotherfucker
>lolilover
What the FUCK is her problem?

Will new fans from the remake get filtered by Sen?

>>723037748
doubt new people will even get that far. they won't play 2d crossbell games

>>723037748
Given it's always been the most popular, no

>>723037551
Their arrangement to fit inside the container was awful.
They should have gone like this in two pairs.

>>723037297
I'm adopted

Does anyone else completely forget about the overdrive mechanic?

>>723037297
it's actually not because no one ever has sex in Trails unless its in a backstory

>>723038297
I didn't like how it immediately cleared you of all statuses. Statuses already struggle to be relevant but that mechanic just completely eliminates them.

>>723038297
Useful in nightmare for removin statuses

>>723038209
That's how they end up doing it in the end for the most part which is confusing since Agate goes in last.

>>723038297
That plus S-crafts because I just didn't need them. Then in chapter 4 I decided I wanted to get all the reward things so I started spamming them in every battle.

>>723035818
she's so CUTE, bros...

You can't just fucking throw schera back on the team after I haven't used her for like 20 hours wtf game?

>>723039256
>Bitchslap girl
>Yell at her
>Tell her to stop being a little brat

>She falls in love with you and spends the next decade chasing your dick
What did Falcom mean by this?

>>723039583
>Fails to give her the dick while she's still in her prime
What did Agate mean by this?

>>723003793 (OP)
Not even the cutest of her own game.

>>723003793 (OP)
rape estelle bright and renny

>>723039709
(((ethics committee)))

Agate and Tita's mom should hatefuck

>>723040768
Uh no

>>723031638
>>723032342
>>723032389
All 3 games are on nyaa with the voice mod

>>723039583
There's a lot of physical violence that I can't get behind

>>723003793 (OP)
How I play Trails games
>play for 25 minutes
>masturbate
>go to sleep
>uninstall the game halfway in

>>723040768
oh yes

>>723041071
Also yeah

if you like Joshua, you may like it

also estelle

>>723040975
that's a funny way to refer to Erika

I'm playing the Sky FC remake and liking it, and I'm planning on playing the original Sky games after I'm done. Is this a bad idea?

>>723043960
Should be fine, just take into consideration the older graphics, overheard camera, and the more lean combat. Second Chapter is also probably the most difficult game in the series and you can't change the difficulty, so make sure you either know what the fuck you're doing or start on Hard (or even Normal).

>>723044151
Kurt in nightmare made me want to kill myself

>>723041516
Can't wait for Renne to namedrop him in the 3rd remake!

>>723044151
Interesting. I was under the impression Trails had a reputation for being easy, but I'm guessing this a more recent phenomenon.

>>723043960
Playing 1st remake is a great idea. I’d probably just move on to cs and wait for sc remake which is probably less than a year away. You don’t need full knowledge of sky or cross bell until cold steel 3

>>723044384
The "Trails is easy" reputation mainly comes from the 3D games like Cold Steel. The 2D ones like OG Sky and Azure are more than happy to kick the player's ass if they aren't prepared.

>>723044384
Well the battle system didn’t change in a meaningful way until daybreak so it was totally solved how to break the game

Richard did nothing wrong

>>723045072
He tried to usurp his rightful monarch he’s a faggot. The fact he tried to do it in favor of a literal retard makes it even worse

Just heard a clip with Agate's english voice in the remake
What the fuck

>>723044384
i started the remake on nightmare and got my shit kicked in on several boss fights, granted i never played a trails game before so I didn't know what the busted spells were/strats were, anyway, I persevered and like most games you eventually blow up in power so the later bosses stood no chance.

>>723045268
Never played cs?

>>723044280
>First real boss of the game
>Insanely tanky
>Kills you in ~2 hits
>Can heal himself for ~15% of his HP off cooldown
>Has no deadrange. If you try and kite him he can just throw out a spear that has a change of instantly fucking killing you
>Entire fight is just praying he decides not to fuck your face
>Main strategy is to use a consumable that you had to know to craft beforehand. If you did not know this and did not craft enough you can softlock yourself

Such bullshit.

>>723044384
The series can be hard at times but it rarely does difficulty well imo. Arianrhod's fight is the best example to me of a good difficult fight but there aren't many

>just found out that Kloe has the same VA as Nozomi from Hundred Line
I have mixed feelings.

>>723045350
People always point to Arianrhod but I don't see it. By that point of the game you have to be legit retarded to not have Lloyd at ~95% evasion in which the fight just becomes dragging her into a corner and tanking her while keeping zero field up with TIO to avoid the S-craft.

Best 'hard' fight in the series for me is probably SC Loewe.
The fight vs Sigmund in Azure where you're on a timer was also insanely difficult but for all the wrong reasons.

These games are overrated as fuck and even if Estelle is based, it's not worth it since there's so much Joshua wank.

I've spent too much time playing pom party...

>>723045350
Every cold steel fight is horseshit
>haha I am le insanely powerful elite here to fuck you up!
>pant pant we somehow won
>but i was merely pretending! I will smite you with my true power!
>what an incredible aura!
>wait I am the insanely powerful elite (good guy) who has appears out of no where, I will keep this villain busy so you can repeat this process with the next 5 villains!
>divine knight auto attack spam fight

>>723045680
Did someone actually film themselves cosplaying rean and acting like a retard? Federation News Service I want to know more

>>723045806
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7vg0gOMwpY

>>723045947
>2 hours 38 minutes
Christ I’m going to regret this aren’t I
>alisa is the female lead
On second thought….guess I’ll grab some booze and settle in for cringe kino

>>723045680
>Casts insight
>miss
>too slow
>miss
>too slow
>miss
>too slow

>>723045680
>>723046136
I was actually kind of indifferent towards Rean when I first played CS but all the shitposting made me like him more haha

I really don't like this new trend of remaking the old game and stretch it to multiple game fuck square enix for giving people idea

>>723046136
>heavenly gift
>my mind is clear, my blade, empty
>my mind is clear, my blade, empty
>my mind is clear, my blade, empty

>>723046260
Sky fc is a very accurate and good remake, however if they ever remake cs1 I am actually begging for less content because I can’t be fucked to play through 100 hours of filler again

>>723046241
The ONLY reason I like rean is the kino shitposting. It saddens me trails will be for normalfaggots now and we won’t get to enjoy our threads anymore

>>723046342
I know people were unironically begging for FC and SC to be just 1 game for the remake. I disagreed with that but with CS1 and 2, I'm completely down to just combine both and remove the nonsense filler.

We just have to wait a little bit and we'll get more haha kino

Huh. I remember lorence beating the shit out of me in the castle when I played the original. God I was a stupid fucking kid

>>723046952
Lorence in the remake is a fucking joke. In the original, especially on nightmare, it's a coin flip whether he just decides to murder you or not and you have to abuse how absolutely fucking broken Kampfer is to not die.

In the remake I think he got 3 turns.

Daybreak 2 is so shit bros
I can't believe I was feeling optimistic for the future after Daybreak 1.
The cast of Daybreak is so good but the story is so fucking bad, it makes me so mad.

>>723047053
I was excited for Daybreak for like the first half of it.
The entire ending being just a ripoff of Cold Steel 4 (which was already steaming shit) ruined it for me though. Daybreak 2 was just falcom saying "Yeah the series is shit deal with it".

>>723046915
3 more months until my boi returns…hopefully horizon is his game just like reverie was

>>723047053
The hardboiled noir detective angle had so much potential but they butchered it by going back to the staple plot points too soon. Oh well best boi rean will be back shortly and presumably valimar

>>723047256
>best boi
Yeah, can't wait to see Kevin again.

>>723047304
I hope we get another “choose 20 party members” moment with literally the entire cast

>>723047120
>The entire ending being just a ripoff of Cold Steel 4
it's funny because Reverie was also a ripoff of CS4
They literally did the same thing 3 times in a row

>>723047304
Damn the kevinfag has arrived, abandon thread

>>723003793 (OP)
White Gehenna sweep

Me and my husband

>>723047425
This made me unbelievably mad and quit the series for two years. I’m only starting Kuro now after fc remake. Cs4 wasn’t a 10 but i did find the ending relevant and all the characters returning charming. Then I was very excited to finally see a new part of zemuria after 4 games (5 including azure) only to find out reverie was literally cs5, rean’s arc dominates the story, and it just rehashes themes already solved in cs4. Hopefully lapis does something eventually to redeem it

Sex with renne (cunny model)

>>723047649
which personality though

>>723047646
Not only was it a ripoff of 4, it was also a retread of Azure lmao.

>>723047716
at this point I’m enjoying kuro for no other reason it’s not crossbell and erebonia

>>723047818
Enjoy that high while it lasts.

>>723047821
based

>Ability to actually chose your party is unlocked at the very last dungeon
>Game is literally just a tutorial for the next game
How long was the wait between releases because holy shit that must have pissed a lot a people off back when you didn't really know what this series was about

>>723039583
>What did Falcom mean by this?
they wrote the accurate mentality of a girl

>>723047976
Trails games come out very quickly it’s the only thing that excuses the rampant asset and system reuse

>>723047976
it took like a year and half between the release of FC and SC (in japan)

Why does every trails game have scenes where one character is voiced and the rest are text or it switches from voiced to text halfway through jarring as fuck

>arts and crafts
Heh

>>723048210
because trails games have more words in them than the lord of the rings

>>723048240
It took me like 10 years to realize this

>>723048210
Falcom cut costs at every chance they can.

>>723047818
You're lucky you're playing the current version and not the janky release version.

>>723048440
What happened on release?

>>723048504
https://www.falcom.co.jp/kuro/product/support.html
Lots of QoL and bugfixes. They redid some animations and cutscenes too like the prologue and when Van turns into Grendel for the first time.
Used to look like shit from the previous engine. Made Falcom look like idiots since they were hyping up the new engine a lot for motions and cutscenes at the end of Reverie.

If I give agate the burn quartz does that chance stack with his attack that causes burn or dies it overwrite it?

>>723048927
Sad, I still can’t really tell any engine differences from cs1 other than the textures and models etc are obviously higher quality. FC remake is the first one that actually looks like it’s a different engine even though it’s obviously based on daybreak

Calvard was a mistake

>>723049227
So was cold steel
>name implies savage military saga, probably some ptsd shit
>its 400 hours of high school drama. The ptsd episode is 45 minutes other than mc having his hair and eyes change color.
>anime as fuck and every dramatic moment is undercut by backpedaling and you realize nothing fucking happens
>the main villain could have been compelling but is entirely absent of character development except for 5 minutes in the secret ending

>>723044151
>so make sure you either know what the fuck you're doing or start on Hard (or even Normal).
You can also just turn on adaptable difficulty in the settings

>>723003793 (OP)
She will never score.

Estelle is a big dummy

>>723050098
Literally begging for cock but Joshua outright refuses

>>723050192
Maybe she just can't conquer his dick.

>>723047852
I also like daybreak has a sense of style. Not as much as persona but the other trails games have none at all

Sheesh nigga

>>723045947
The thumbnail always kills me, Alisa looks FAT.

>>723051394
>Implying this isn't "pure w aura drip style", as the kids say.

>>723052210
Tbf Olivier is definately bi

>>723052275
The band scene was okay, spending 20 fucking hours to set it up was not. Also towa wore it better

Why was falcon allowed to get away with making cs3 literally the same game as cs1?

>>723043960
Depends on how much you can tolerate a much slower game and inaccurate translation.

>>723054923
Oh dear god are we still rehashing the skies translation shill? What is your actual argument?

>>723055057
XSEED's translation sucks because it rewrites multiple characters.
I take solace in the fact that the faggot responsible is dead and we'll likely get a better script in the remake.

>>723055382
So let’s reeeee about the remake and the uh fan translation and the google translation and the chink translation and realize there is no such thing as a real translation

You faggots are normalfags that discuss fictional girls in a taiwanese basket weaving website and as well are 3dpd niggers that are sex havers or wannabe sex havers. Fuck off and be more private about it, unvirgin/virginity denying swins

>trails game
>every character wears a full towel in to the onset like a retard

I love schizo hours

>>723053403
It's not even close to being the same.

>>723055830
It is beat for beat the same fucking plot until you get to the final assault on ouroboros at the gral

>>723052275
The dance number at the end of Daybreak 2 was also kinda cringe but not nearly this bad

>>723056540
>Rixia is absent for the entire game
>She shows up to cameo in the ending dance because ????
>Like she's not even playable postgame in the Garten or anything, she's literally just included for the dance scene
I can't even began to fathom wtf Falcom was thinking there.

How does Falcom manage to crank out two or three of these games every year?

>>723028594
Final Fantasy

Trails fell off after CS2

>>723057597
It's quite simple, really.
Does anyone remember that one flash/browser game where you can make your own scenes, assign models, etc and make it all play out in a movie? It had Powdered Toast Man.
Anyway, Falcom basically animates all of their scenes like that. Just drag and drop, baby!

>>723057597
Reusing assets. This is also the reason that Falcom will eventually outlive all video game developers except for maybe Nintendo because since the costs are so low, every game is guaranteed to be a profit.

Still unsurpassed

>>723061007
Well, about that...

With this remake being done, I'm almost certain that the Liberl crew will show up in Kai 2 just because they finally have the models for them.

>>723007375
i played the entire game in japanese and then heard her in the trailer for the 2nd game... and her voice was grating to my ears

why tf are anime/weeb voice actors so fucking garbage? why can't they sound like normal women? and why do they have some shitty chink VA voicing it? and you just know they probably have some faggot politics too.

>>723013495
only played the first one but it kinda makes sense. if you have super saiyan goku fighting yamcha, the story sucks balls


>>723032157
how do you break him in remake? i found him to be only okay. his quartz/orbments kinda sucked for any high damaging arts and his crafts were only okay imo. what did you abuse to make him so broken?

>>723038297
nah spammed them at every opportunity to unlock the rewards

>>723062094
He would've topped the tournament if Cassius used a sword.

>>723064153
He's not supposed to be an Arts spammer. It's literally just

Step 1: Equip Lone Blade Quartz + Victory Headband (+ Gladiator's Belt if not using Tita)
Step 2: Wild Rage
Step 3: S-Break Final Blade
Step 4: ?????
Step 5: Dead enemies

You only ever need to do that 4 times at most. I didn't even get to see Richard's other moves.

>>723064264
Cassius himself claims that is not the case.

>>723065408
He's just being modest.

>>723065408
Yes but you know how Trails characters are with their fucking humbleness and glazing of their opponents. Reminds me a of a certain manga I'm stuck reading. I can't "escape".

>>723065689
>and glazing of their opponents.
Including political opponents!

>>723038297
I could never forget the best mechanic

>still having "is Cassius the strongest" discussions
simpler times

>>723066254
I like that the remake basically reverted all plot/lore discussions to a decade ago. In five years we'll be having a Reanpost renaissance.

>>723066594
Reverted just like what happened in Kai

>>723013084
I think for all the things this series does right most villains feel weak

>>723003793 (OP)
you are playing a censored remake SHIT version of the game. he LOST! hes a FAGGOT! he plays CENSORED GAMES! absolutely FELTED. I could not imagine being this absolutely KEKED.

>>723018045
The way her nylon leggings are rendered in the remake drives me nuts

>>723028145
Damn... how did this get past the censors...

>>723023296
me when I lie

>>723023296
ankle skirts always had voids in tbe games retard cause they wont wanr to model the legs

Playing Azure right now and realizing I hate how I'm not told how much damage a Craft does. Like, I don't know how to maximize my physical damage. Earlygame I'd decide by their secondary benefits like debuffs, but lategame every enemy is immune so now I'm just trying to max out damage.

I looked up a guide only to find that for example Lloyd's dash attack has a higher physical multiplier than his single target attack - make it make sense.

>>723066947
Sniff

>>723028309
Kinda feel the same, used to be a massive fanboy over the Sky games but playing Crossbell now and it feels so limp and flat. I don't know if it's the game just being worse, or if I'm getting fatigued by the formula, if the novelty has worn off or if I've simply grown out of it.

>>723053403
They've been making the exact same game since Zero
>Go to central hub
>Pick up lost cat quests
>Do obligatory hub dungeon
>Go to a different down
>Do lost cat quests
>Plot will happen at the end of the chapter
>Go back to the hub
>Repeat until finale

>>723034271
+ he looks and fights like fucking Vergil

Why they didn't added her alternate outfit from Sen no Kiseki 4 as a purchasable?

Will people be mad if the SC remake comes out before Kai 2?

>>723037551
The remaster had a CG that this is mimicking

Does anyone actually think the Crossbell arc is better than Sky? I feel like it's such a downgrade on almost every front except maybe combat and QoL
The setting is worse, the story is just as slow and feels like it's kinda retreading familiar ground, the main cast is as bland as white bread and there is no sense of journey to it because you spend 100 hours in the same city and 3 towns

Back when it was still completely untranslated I thought it looked like the coolest shit ever but playing it now it feels like the beginning of the series "going through the motions"

I like Trails

>>723068471
Common pattern. Hype what's not available, then when it finally is, realize it's average or worse.

>>723068471
crossbell is where they began just blindly pandering to current trends and settled into their formulaic writing style that they would use for the rest of the series
sky is the only good part of the series

>>723068653
Sky SC invented having chapters where literally nothing happens except for a villain who only uses 1% of his power and then goes "fufu wouldn't you like to know whats happening" before teleporting away. To be fair only the first half of SC was like that unlike games like CS3 or Kai where the entire fucking game is like this but everything shit about the series was kinda there from the beginning it just got flanderized over time.

>>723069046
That's fine since it's literally the 2nd game of what we thought at the time would be like 6/7-ish games. It's when they kept on doing it that you suddenly realize that Falcom doesn't know what the fuck they're doing.

>>723057202
There's a rumour that Rixia was also going to appear in the postgame, but she didn't because Satou Rina had covid at that time.

>>723065830
CS4 is inexcusably bad jesus H christ
Forever will be the lowest point of the series idc what some people say about daybreak 2 it's not even close

>>723069961
Reverie was worse than CS4 thoughbeit

I want to KILL Tita.

>>723070559
Calm down, Renne.

>>723068471
Azure was when the series jumped the shark

Is the squad in SC the exact same as in FC?
I love it but i didn't see enough of each character to be satisfied, so I'd be happy to keep the same in SC

>>723071735
yeah and most of the characters get their development in sc, fc is pretty much just a giant introduction

>>723071735
there's a couple of new party members but the core ones are the same.

>>723052275
I kind of miss when this series had its own unique anachronistic technology style, instead of literally present day.

>>723071735
haha...

>>723072134
yeah they killed that off rather quickly unfortunately