Thread 723012032

Let me guess, you need more?

>>723012131
What are some games like this?

>>723012131
what happens in 6th dungeon?

>>723012032 (OP)
I need less, the town is unnecessary.

>>723012182
Dark souls (3)

>>723012224
Final Kino Legend

>>723012131
>one town hub
>multiple dungeons that can only be progressed in order
>higher god-like figure of existing determines whether a giant calamity will come and destroy everything

Etrian Odyssey

For me it's TOWN

>>723012032 (OP)
I will now buy your game

>>723012131
So.. what happens if you pull the lever?
Also needs a halfway point forward settlement/safe zone with a permanent portal to town that you activate.

>>723012224
>>723012662
k i n o
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>>723012224
>venture into the dungeon to fight the big bad
>encounter mirror world where you are the big bad and people are coming to fight you

>>723012662
Go ahead.

>>723012224
Digimon world 3's asuka and amaterasu servers kind of fit this.

>>723013032
>weeb
no thanks

>>723012224
Kino

>>723012032 (OP)
>Temple of Elemental Evil

rate my city planning

>>723012032 (OP)
I was thinking about the origin of this structure, and honestly Le Guin's Tombs of Atuan might be the answer.
big L for male authors, imo.

>>723014376
Are there temples/dungeons between floors?

>>723014639
lol if you think a foid wrote anything. She had a ghostwriter like they all do.

For me, it's like this.

>>723014639
Dave Arneson's Blackmoor fantasy setting which featured Blackmoor dungeon might have been written without him reading Tombs of Atuan, I could not find exact years of him coming up with stuff with quick googling.

>>723012224
Tales of Eternia

>>723012662
Hollow Knight

No, Etrian Odyssey is kino

>>723012032 (OP)
Shining in the Darkness?

>>723012662
Each layer should be its own civilization.

>>723015462
What the fuck is a Interse Ction?

>>723012032 (OP)
Deliciousness in Dungeon did this right:
>Top few levels are inhabitated by Adventurers, Merchants and Mercenaries. Town centers it's economy around the dungeon.
>Levels below the Top of the dungeon are wild but somewhat tamed.
>Levels below that have Orcs and other monsters using the dungeon as a full village and the monsters as a meatshield preventing invasion.
>Levels even further below start getting into the actual ruins of the civilization that built the dungeon.

>>723015723
The c is lower case, no excuse.
>You didn't include a -!
Explode.

>>723015462
Maybe it's because I just started it but this looks exactly like Magicus from KEIZO.

>>723012032 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnMR6SOBa9k

>>723012032 (OP)
dungeon crawlers are even worse than open world ubisoft sloppa

>>723016060
What the fuck are you babbling on about?

>>723016082
Never heard of it, but thanks for the rec.

>>723016272
He's saying it's "Interse-ction" Which when properly formatted is "Intersection." Crossroads. Quagmire. Etc. A neutral land with branching roadways leading to other more interesting places.

>>723016581
I have never seen quagmire used to mean intersection before.

>>723016710
*shrug*

Any other cool layouts?

>>723014376
20/77

>>723012032 (OP)
Yes, fuck dark cloud.

>>723015462
What do the colours signify? And why does the hub give you toilet paper?

>>723012662
Torchlight 1?

>>723019474
Teleport.
But anyway, each color represents a macguffin you gotta collect somewhere in each zone for completion, 16 in total (START is the home of the white macguffin).

>>723012032 (OP)
Make it a tower to heaven instead of a dirty monster pit.

>>723020230
Okay, but what if heaven is at the bottom in the beneath-sky?

I really need a proper dungeon crawler ARPG, the closest thing I've played to that is Bloodborne's Chalice dungeon and they just don't scratch that itch

>>723012032 (OP)
for me it's

>>723020889
What do they eat?

>>723012032 (OP)
Kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE4jsPjluds

>>723020230
This. And you can put guns in your skull.

>>723021584
God Rengoku 2 is sick

>>723012224
>Be born in town on lowest layer
>Too low-level to climb the dungeon
>Forever stuck underground

>>723021840
You gotta jump for the beef, Anon.
There's no other way.

>>723022386
I mean, they can only rotate sideways, since otherwise the town would be annihilated.

>>723012224
Dragon Quarter

>>723022386
>>723022609
Oh, so that's how those spin tiles in Wizardry work.

>>723012032 (OP)
pit of 100 trials moment

>>723022609
The buildings are constructed with respect to tile boundaries, so different parts of the town neighbor other different parts depending on the day and how the tiles rotated.

>>723016145
Mah nigga

>>723023661
That's.. not at all how that'd work on a Rubik's Cube.
If it was a Rubik's Cube, there would be chunks of the town that get rotated would be forced underground.

>>723022386
so, what's the goal? dead center? since it kinda doesn't rotate?

>>723012224
Tales of Symphonia, kind of

>>723024308
to the center

>>723012032 (OP)
>>723012224
I hope this is what the Dragons Dogma 2 DLC ends up being.

>>723015462
Oh my Miyazaki

>>723012032 (OP)
I'd prefer multiple towns and dungeons instead of a singular super dungeon and 1 town. I like variety.

>>723012724
Good question. It's a poorly-formed meme.

>>723024629
Not even close.

>>723024491
>Dragons Dogma 2 DLC
anon, I...

>>723024756
It's pretty much dark soul

>>723024757
What? I'm sure they'll finally announce it at E3 next year.

>>723022609
Dungeon is in a different dimension.

>>723024838
No.. Not really.

>>723015462
I fucking love those maps.

>>723024897
Yes.. really.

>>723012662
>delve dungeon fighting horrors
>get to the bottom, it's an ancient civilization
>find out they built the tower to survive the apocalyse
It succeeded. the surface world is the new world they reached and the dungeon monsters are the remnants of the apocalypse and it's why the monsters can't leave the dungeon

>>723015462
Fucking Chain of Memories

No, I want this

>>723025480
Not even close.

>>723012182
Angband.
>>723012032 (OP)
Yeah, pic related and you can wander off around the proc-gen'd hex map but the monsters are probably going to kill you if you wander too far if you are not strong enough so better get into the dungeon.
North: Dungeon.
Centre: Village.
South: Witch's hut in the woods that can sell you potions and shit.
South-East: Swamps
South-West: Beach.
North-East: Lake. (Go fishing or someshit.)
North-West: River crossing.

>>723012224
I'm pretty sure Final Fantasy Legend was exactly this

>>723016251
dude, where's your argument

>>723025719
no story and you just kill monsters on samey looking floors

>>723026317
Violence neither needs nor permits justification.

>>723012032 (OP)
Hell yeah. I love 3D V-Cache chips.

>>723012662
MegaMan Legends except technically it is all ruins from an ancient civilization.

>>723014376
kowloon?

>>723022386
spiral knights my beloved

>>723026634
There's usually justification for violence that happens:
>Monsters are bad and terrorizing the village, go kill them. (Heroic Quest)
>The dungeon is a trial and those that descend its depth ascend into immortality. (Quest For Power)
>You need some sort of McGuffin from the depths of the dungeon in order to stop the world from ending. (Fetch quest.)
>You just need to make money and that's the only way you can make it. (Rags to riches/Heist Quest.)
kek.

>>723012662
Unlucky for you, my game will never exist because I am too lazy to make it.

>>723012032 (OP)
is that a patent? i hear diablo music when i look at it, did blizzard patent this

>>723012224
amazing

>>723027459
http://www.graybeardgames.com/download/diablo_pitch.pdf
Diablo design/pitch document

>>723025565
DS2?

>>723012224
>

>>723012224
rippen

>>723012032 (OP)
For me, it's dark cloud, the best dungeon crawler ever made.

>>723027838
Nigga wut

>>723027971
Man, I only ever played the demo as a kid. Shame they never sold it in my corner of the world.

>>723028406
>SHUT
>IT
>DOWN

>>723012224
the first quarter of smt4 was possibly the peak of the entire series

>>723028406
glitch in the matrix

>>723028406
Dumber than a fucking dog, that's incredible.

>>723012032 (OP)

Add a pond with a fishing minigame in the empty corner and it's perfect.

>>723028406
Humans are fucking stupid it's unbelievable, we deserve another asteroid or 2.

>>723029109
why does he move like the creaking skull

>>723029158
just failure of american education.

>>723029109
The fuck is the origin or context of this?

>>723012032 (OP)
Is there any actual dungeon crawler or roguelike that does something like this properly or gives you towns as you go further down into the dungeon. most games i can think of always completely segment the dungeon from the town or make it so you have like a million checkpoints the further you go down rather than have the risk/reward structure of delving deeper or returning up

>>723014376
?!#?!@/10

>>723029231
Who do you think did the mocap for Creaking Skull?

>>723012032 (OP)
no i don't need more, actually. this is the most kino setup of all time and i want to make a game that uses it.

>>723012032 (OP)
Is that an image from a patent?

>>723029309
entertaining a retard, i figured you'd know this best

>>723029935
You bloody basterd!

>>723025565
Pathologic?

>>723027838
>THIS IS WHAT GNOSTICS ACTUALLY BELIEVE

Fixed

>>723012662
KF4

>>723025476
What do the monsters eat?

>>723012224
Our glorious real and true Hyrule
vs
Their twisted fake and nonsensical Termina

>>723025476
I swear this is a troon containment protocol post

>*digs straight to the ancient artifact room at the bottom*
nuthin personel demon lord CHUMP

>>723031358
Ah, the noita player has arrived.

>>723012032 (OP)
Where the Giant World Tree?

>>723014376
What do they eat?

>>723031358
>discovers a second, even demonior demon lord's dungeon
What do you think the earth's crust is held up by, fucking idiot adventurer. There is NOTHING BUT dungeons under the surface.

>>723031858
>There is NOTHING BUT dungeons under the surface
hmmmm, sounds like I'm gonna need a bigger shovel!

>>723029346
>Is there any actual dungeon crawler or roguelike that does something like this properly or gives you towns as you go further down into the dungeon.
This is literally the model for Wizardry 1, and Wizardry games as a whole. This is also how Diablo did it. It's the most common method, and it's usually more casual games which break it up into multiple shorter dungeons in different areas.

Final Fantasy Legend 1 also did something similar, starting you at the bottom and having you progress upward. On occasion, you'd run into a "floor" which was a town or basically a rest stop. Otherwise, each floor you went up was either a dungeon or otherwise a dangerous area you needed to work thru to get to the next one.

>>723022386
Neverwinter nights infinite dungeons

>>723015618
That was my first thought too.

>>723031858
But then...what's under THAT dungeon?

>>723012182
Hades 1/2

>>723012131
Dangerously close to Twilight Princess.
>first 3 hours are faffing about
>dungeons are in a fairly steady stream after that, especially from #4 onwards
>speaking of #4, ACKTUALLY IT WAS GANONDORF ALL ALONG AND ZANT IS JUST SOME BABY BITCH
>also, there are exactly 9 dungeons

>>723020983
Birds

>>723029309
afraid of fireworks, so that's how he celebrates 4th of july

>LOL YOU WANTED MORE SHONEN POWER LEVEL TRAINING ARC FAGGOTRY
yes, I wanted the deeper levels of demon world explored, fuck you, it would've been kino.

>>723032203
Don't ask questions you don't want the answer to.

For me, it's Ultima Underworld and also King's Field 1 and System Shock

For me, it's Ultima Underworld and also King's Field 1 and System Shock

>>723024425
Beat me to it

>>723027971
>Dark Cloud
>a picture of Zelda
Hmm?

Okay hear me out

>>723033373
Monster Hunter

>>723033373
just wait until it cools down

>>723033373
Diablo 2

>>723012575
I beat this game this year and I have to say the ending forklift operator arc is the closest a game has ever come to making me feel like I'm working a real world soul crushing job. it took me weeks to force myself to play through that shit.

>>723029309
I think they're testing and recording his reaction to different colors.

>>723012182
Torchlight

>>723012563
gosh, that game was shit
no idea why I forced myself to finish it on DS, complete waste of time with zero innovation and as annoying dungeons as they could be plus 'draw your own map!' 'saves only at save points!'

>>723015618
For a game that contains a lot of SOVL, I REALLY fucking wished you could go literally ANYWHERE besides the Labyrinth. Even the brief moment where you're outside the Labyrinth is such a breath of fresh air no pun intended.

>>723034362
>draw your own map
it's fucking stupid, and not even automapper can save that shitty mechanic
when you have double digit icons and symbols to draw your map then it's hot garbage, i'd rather draw on paper

>>723012575
Town Simulator: the game

>>723025565
This and also a giant wasteland of lava that's like a kilometre above the rest of civilization.

>>723012662
>the ancient runes are actually modern day civilization
>the game was fantasy up to that point
i fucking hate that shit, it was only cool when the planet of apes did it.