Thread 723028281

Demo is out
Go get that medussy

I'll take chocussy

>>723028281 (OP)
Why is there no fortress?

>just witnessed t7 schism unit do like 5 attacks in a row and lost
what the FUCK

HE'S IN

>>723028578
Their music is too good, it makes the other factions look bad

>>723028806
need some way of interrupting their focus generation

>>723028281 (OP)
The game is pretty good, the overworld also looks pretty good with this artstyle from a distance, but the outlines look like shit and once you zoom in it falls apart. More annoyingly, the artstyle is still that overdone WoW-cander style.

You want to go with 3D models at all costs? Fine, but why not just go with HoMM3's artstyle? Or HoMM2's, whatever just not the 5+ shit.

Also why did we get 3D townscreens again but this time we can't even move the camera? Townscreens in 5 were fully 3D, looked a lot better than these, and you could move the camera. Now we get all the drawbacks of 3D with none of the upsides.

>>723028936
just realised how op generating focus while dealing damage from the offence subskill is with that unit

>>723028912
Speaking of music, why is the music in this game the very definition of mediocre if they got Romero back? The Schism town theme and main menu are up to par but basically nothing else is

>>723028281 (OP)
I want Nagussy

>>723029641
it's all competent but extremely generic orchestral stuff with no real melody presence
even the schism tune is just woo augmented fourths we're soooo evil
maybe their idea was that the background music shouldn't draw too much attention to itself and that's what they went with but it's really disappointing

>>723029830
higher definition image for you coomer anon

I wish I could draw on the map and block off areas I've explored / don't care about anymore
There's too much to keep track of for my ADHD if I look away for a while to do something I come back and get overwhelmed by having to load it all back into memory

>>723029903
Thanks. Didn't realize it had ass resolution until after I posted it

>>723029854
Considering that the HOTA team rejected Romero's Factory music for being too ambient, maybe the dude just lost his touch
The music is still present but not for Factory itself, just for the campaign

>>723029641
I have no idea what's with the music, it's so generic. Even 5 had more memorable tunes.
Both 3 and 4 have variety in mood and genre and most of the soundtrack stands up whether the songs are supposed to be part of the background (overworld songs) or the foreground (battle and town themes).
I've played about 8 hours of the demo and couldn't tell you SHIT about the fight theme. Don't remember a single note. And you're supposed to tell me whatever they made here is supposed to compete with this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSwATqPUsv0
Same for the overworld. Don't remember ass. But I could hum you the melody from most of the songs from 3 or 4 off the top of my head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOZRUREX6xo

Focusing on priority targets? VERY GOOD VERY GOOD INDEED.
On the one hand its easy to predict what the AI will do when they see like 800 skeleton archers.

>>723030239
the ai focusing on doomstack t1 units has been a homm stable forever at this point

>>723030239
How the fuck is this balanced.

>>723030237
People often forget that while Romero is the composer, there was also Rob King, the producer for sound and music in Might & Magic games, and he was likely responsible for directing the overall style and tard wrangling Paul a little.

>>723030563
1) you need 2 focus points to use the ability
2) sanguine lich is significantly weaker in combat than pestilent lich
3) 90 sanguine liches restoring around 800 skellies which is probably like 4k health is not that much, only less than 50hp per unit, and you lose your turn to attack

if anything the liches were done dirty, probably why the default growth is 5 per week

>>723029641
The obvious answer is that Romero has always been a hack. If he was so good and consistent, surely his music would appear in more games, movies or tv shows. But nope, he hasn't created anything notable in the past 25 years. So why do people expect him to create something good now? He just got lucky with HoMM3. A typical one-hit wonder.

>>723028565
>>723029146
Did the pendulum swing and now new releases all have these sexual designs?

>>723030907
I like his tunes in homm 2 and 4 as well.

>>723031008
nta but i thought 4 was basically royalty free music, i've heard some of those tracks in a lot of games

>>723030907
2 4 and 5 all had great music

>>723031042
Yeah, I know, but I think he did the town themes, and I actually like those.

>>723031042
Some parts of it were original music, some parts of it were licensed samples. Probably because they were rushed and not given a whole lot of time and money.

holy fuck an enemy cleric (the stuttering one) rushed out of her zone and surprise attacked my hero. I was just barely able to hang on, killed the last unit with 2 of my own units left and got a shitload of loot

>>723028281 (OP)
Would 3d models getting baked into 2d sprites work in this time of age? What's stopping people from doing that again

>>723031089
yeah the town themes aren't among the ones i've heard elsewhere, but to be honest, i'm not a huge fan of orchestra and i think the non-town tracks are better

>>723030949
that image is from 2013

>>723031139
>What's stopping people from doing that again
4 looked, let's say, special

>>723028912
>Promises to drain the swamp
>>723030949
HoMM has been doing this for decades, slavs don't care about silly western hyper prude culture

Will there be a tower/order faction in this?

>>723031139
It only works when you also let your artists draw over them afterwards, which is why 4 looked like shit - they didn't have time to do it like they did with 3
Probably too expensive these days

>>723031376
Not on release. They talked about possibly doing 2 more factions over time to a total of 8 but they didn't commit to anything.

>>723031376
Not among the first 6, devs said they're gonna aim for 8 for full release which will most definitely include stronghold so I just hope they make some version of tower/order/academy as it's my favourite town

>>723031376
Hopefully no, fuck magic and fuck wizards

Humans can build two times in a day they are busted
Also game is bugged as fuck

>>723031517
>Humans can build two times in a day they are busted
Takes so many law points by the time you get it it's nothing special

>>723031517
Goblin rogue? What this can refer to? I haven't seen such unit.

>>723031376
We used to get like 8+ factions at release now we are lucky to get six in our strategy games

>>723031517
Fairie dragon?

>>723031489
I NEED naga kveens

>>723031517
Takes a lot of law points to get there, and you need lots of lumber, ore and money to take advantage of it fully. It would be broken if you could get it right away and turbo boost your econ

>>723031609
Homm4 had 6 factions, homm5 had 6 factions with 2 added with 2 expansion packs
This game will launch in early access with 6 with the plan of having 8 for the full release

>>723031582
Not when you claim new castles

>>723031676
Naga should join the Barbarians and make stronger offspring. They don't belong with pathetic wizards at all

>>723031760
Wizards not so pathetic when they cast testicular torsion and mass alzheimers

>>723031231
>>723031457
4 was way more complex because you had to see the unit from 8 angles, opposed to 3rd's single sideview
But I mean surely someone would've tried to recreate the art style and techniques by now, does't even have to be a strategy game

>>723031760
Actually they crave big titan cock

>>723031376
Schism has already taken the role of snow faction. So I hope we won't get towerfaggots back.

>>723031902
You're in luck, order/academy aren't snow factions like tower

>>723031861
Age of Empires II DE does that.
But in general there's no real reason not to just use 3D models, they're way easier to animate and with good shading there's no real difference.

>>723031902
>>723031937
There is no sand native faction yet so it could easily be Academy. God I hope it's Academy.

>>723031937
>You're in luck, order/academy aren't snow factions like tower
Really? Look snowy to me.

Also you can get a spell that makes you "connect" to your castle and take all the units from it while your heroes is away exploring

>>723031376
Honestly we already have magic faction so I wouldn't mind more original or underused faction instead of going mages again. Maybe lizardmen or pirates since they are present on Jadame in M&M8.

>>723031939
Now that I think about it Factorio probably counts as well
Those buildings have some insane detail but take up almost 0 computer resources

>>723032081
they were the desert faction in 2

Am I stupid or is there no way to see wall health during a siege?

>>723032190
Also in 5

>>723031489
>fuck wizards
Yor father

>>723032089
A spell that lets you grab units from external dwelling far away. A spell that let's you exchange units/artefacts with another hero far away. There's a cast that just adds movement points to your hero. And all of that is on top of the usual DD and Town Portal stuff. And don't forget that Fly spell reduces movement cost. There are way too many movement/army manipulation spells. You can be anywhere any time you want.

>>723028281 (OP)
>mobile
fuck off

>>723032313
>Fly spell reduces movement cost
That's a tier 2 adventure spell, you telling me it removes rough terrain penalties?

>>723032081
In 4 your town background depends on the surrounding area which is not guaranteed to be snow for order

Alright lads, just won my first game after a couple of failed attempts. I think I might have turned the difficulty up to 125% instead of 100% by mistake before, otherwise I can't explain why this run was SO MUCH easier. Some more thoughts on the game:

>UI definitely needs a lot more work. We're talking here about ownership flags being hidden behind foliage, capturing a town but the flag randomly turning into your opponent's color etc.
>I LOVE the fact that the game's philosophy is to give everyone a bunch of cool OP shit and let them fight with their toys. So many games end up focusing on muh balance, sucking out the fun of the game
>There should be more ways to get alchemical dust. The fastest way to get it now is by disenchanting items, but if you get bad RNG and don't find neutral buildings that drop them you'll be falling behind quite fast. Potentially they should tune down the upgrade dust value requirements, I was 3 months in, fully owned 80% of the map and only by then was I able to actually fully upgrade one of my town's buildings
>Necro is fun AF to play. I love the necromancy focus
>For the love of GOD keep the same tab open when I move towns. Eg. If i'm in recruitment screen of town 1 and click on town 2, bring me to town's 2 same screen not the main one
>similarly, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD let me set up default unit upgrades, whenever I upgrade some units it defaults to the first upgrade choice
>some speels seem to not work? For example the "Reinforcements" spell says i am in range to interact with a town but i click on it and nothing happens. Although it seems like a pretty useless spell since town portal is much more powerful and only costs 2 mana points

Overall the game is fun AF, already put 10 hours into it. It definitely captures the essence of HOMM. A bit more ui work, a LOT more graphics polish and we're talking here about a worthy successor.

>>723032390
Right. But the native terrain for academy in 4 is still snow.

>>723032390
>>723032081
4 is a really good game

I wish the weekly resource shit would just be flagged instead of needing to go to every week.

It was the best thing 4 did.

>>723032482
I suppose but when you go against other really good (better) games it gets overshadowed a little bit
I play 4 for a week or so every couple of years, but that's nothing compared to how much I play both 3 (HOTA) and 5 (5.5)
The game is just so hero-focused and unbalanced

>>723032456
Necro dog upgraded unit icons are switched

>>723032081
kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k9fPBM-rPo

>>723032456
There is usually a building that let you turn resources into dust, you just need a slave heroes to be closed to this building

>>723032604
>The game is just so hero-focused and unbalanced
That's exactly why I like it so much

>>723032895
did an entire map playthough and haven't seen it desu

Honestly I'm chocked the demo has so much content for you to play with. Even if the game has some flaws. Still, it's nice seeing some homm discussion on this board again.

>>723032956
I dunno it's on jebus cross that for sure

>>723032456
Gotta do the runback after Town Portal though which can cost 1-2 days

>>723032932
Assuming Olden Era fully releases with the quality seen thus far, I wouldn't mind for the next HoMM game to take inspiration from 4 and do it right this time. Concept is good but execution leaves a lot to be desired for me

>>>723019783
Yes, it worked for me. It SHOULD be showing up on the post-game screen, but alas. Just keep track of how many the battle screen told you are remaining vs how many you actually end up with after you accept the results

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z_avCG9tPs
>best castle screen
>best theme
>best roster
it's been like 6 games now and none of them have been able to recapture the feel of going to your faggy little girl town and recruiting your double flier double shooter army.

>>723033254
you get small icons appearing on top of your hero after a fight signifying how many undead you raised, even if you level up after closing the screen
it's what i hope to god is a placeholder and it sucks, but its still there

>>723031816
>cast testicular torsion and mass alzheimers
Nah. The better spell would be Mass Instant Brazilian Wax.

>>723033410
I realized this after I killed an army and *didn't* have a screen pop up above, at which point I was able to see icons showing the extra units coming in

for Ascension I guess I want to make a bunch of 1-unit stacks and sacrifice them to power up the rest of my army?

>>723033703
i haven't actually played necropolis in the demo because it was 80% of my playtime in the playtest but in there you could still see the units pop up after you had chosen your level up

is the AI challenging?

>>723034085
Choose 200% and get back to us

>>723033832
I mean, having a bunch of 1 stack t1 units is regular strategy for a town with low tier shooters until midgame.
Here's a pro tip: units from the cthulhu faction can resurrect dead corpses.

>>723034330
>units from the cthulhu faction can resurrect dead corpses.
i think they are dependant on the amount of starting hp the dead stack had

what does it mean when an unit get a shining light above their head?

so hows the demo?

>>723032932
same here, i just enjoy the powertrip with a 30-40 level hero single-handedly flattening armies of mobs.
i also like the mini stories of the main campaign and the OST which i think might be the best of the series.
it's a shame the devs were about to dissolve while making the addons and didn't give much fucks about the plot anymore

>>723035659
I mean, it's free. Try it
I'm enjoying it

>>723035970
i remember playing a pvp game with a friend online
he played regularly
I said "fuck it we ball", lumped 5 barbarians no creatures on a single army and started running around trampling over everything
I fucked him up so hard he didn't want to play again for a while

>all humans are white
>monsters have tits and ass
What year is it?

>>723036223
it's slav o'clock

>>723036223
If you like monster tiddies check out their previous game

>>723036223
Shame the art direction is shit except for the t'n'a

>>723036223
>all humans are white
Then who the fuck is that >>723028565?

>>723036553
blacks arent human :)

>>723036553
That's a creature

Is my man Sandro in this?

>>723036647
no nor is Chad Hack

I sharted all over apocalyptic ai on jebus cross
It didn't even put up a fight, their best hero had half my stats and a fraction of my army. Maybe it couldn't handle neutrals?

>>723035427
Either they got an extra turn from morale, or they crit on an attack from luck.

I don't get it, I play in normal difficulty and in like 1 month in the enemy appears with a HUGE ass army through the portal.
Also the magic system is confusing for me

>>723036809
>>723036864
It's strange I see a lot of posts saying the game is kicking their ass but then I've had very easy time on 150% and this anon is doing even better than me

>>723036949
Combat AI is better.
Global AI is still terrible, and it will never match humans. It's extremely hard to program AI that can do all the chaining, army transfers, etc. So AI will always lag behind in resources and army.

>>723030239
Kek this looks like slop. Series peaked at 3.

Do you like to play a hero that buffs a specific unit, or a more "general" hero?

QRD
Is this a 4x game?

>>723032895
It's insanely useful.

>>723037526
short answer no
long answer hell no

How the fuck do you beat the Grail fight?
It's vs a copy of your hero and army but better in every way (larger stacks, WAY higher hero stats, same spells and abilities). If you try to cheese it with a single t1 shitter he gets like 500 T1 shitters instead

>>723037526
boardgame version of a JRPG

>>723030949
EQ Landmark was a cashgrab before the company went under they knew what they were doing and it's why that dave loser kept promising basically every wishful thing imaginable for mmo addicts when shilling it

>>723032895
this one?

>>723037736
am i witnessing paranoid schizophrenia live on 4channel

>>723037453
my wife

>>723037797
No, it's one that gives you 15 dust per 1 of every rare resource put in

Never played any HoMM besides this demo. In the older games, was there a dedicated vampire faction, or was it baked into the necro faction? Been enjoying my cringe phase right now and just watching lots of vampire shit and playing vampire-focused games lately.

>>723037843
the clown hero probably makes the clown upgrade with double melee damage decent

>>723038005
Necropolis previously and necropolis in olden era is almost 1:1 except vampire used to be t4 unit in 3 and 5
Turns out it's difficult to balance lifesteal which made those two units extremely overpowered previously and now to compensate it's the highest level unit

>>723038145
Wraiths seem kinda underwhelming but I haven't played necro much
Having zero defense means I just blast them down whenever I see them. Vampires are a lot scarier

>>723038195
Wraiths are underwhelming, I suppose one way to balance lifesteal is to make the unit literally the most vulnerable in the entire game and be suspensible to counter-attack
Ghosts in HoMM 4 and 5 were absolutely bitches to kill without the right setup so it's another big change

>>723038275
>suspensible
susceptible

>>723036223
>all humans are white
That would be unlike rest of series

>>723037453
+1 speed/initiative to specific unit is more valuable the better you get, so as a noob I prefer the generalists. And might>magic

>>723038464
Yeah I know, I wasn't even expecting that, which is why I was doubly surprised.

How do I know which creature abilities use a turn and which doesnt

>>723038789
it uses the turn unless the tooltip states otherwise

>>723032456
>>There should be more ways to get alchemical dust. The fastest way to get it now is by disenchanting items, but if you get bad RNG and don't find neutral buildings that drop them you'll be falling behind quite fast. Potentially they should tune down the upgrade dust value requirements, I was 3 months in, fully owned 80% of the map and only by then was I able to actually fully upgrade one of my town's buildings

Remember the lawpoints
One of them is an option to get 100 alchemical dust instantly

>>723038464
>>723038543
But they are literally not all white.

>>723037453
initiative is KING
any hero that gives initiative is godtier
if you do damage first especially with ranged units you delete their strongest stack first, plus you get spell casting priority since you go first

>>723038863
only for dungeon

>get an Sentinel of Glory
>its incredible buffs can be copied onto Angels
>playing Lord Edgar so the Sentinel gets even more insane stats
well I guess I win then

Anyway to let me appreciate the strategic depth in this game like I would with games like Mahjong?

>even the units have backstory
Huh, Angels aren't actually Angels, they're imitations
That feels like something that'll come up during the campaign

>>723028281 (OP)
Dogshite.
Meaningless abilities for units, mostly useless spells, sulfur replaced with extra annoying dust, absolutely disgusting cartoonish art style with few bad baits for gooners and Jesus fuck, have you read descriptions buildings/heroes/items? It looks like these were written by 13y old girl with autism (or 4channel tranime dweller). Did I mention UI? Yeah it's bad.

It's heroes 6 & 7 all over again (just worse), it's over but I'm not even disappointed.

>gooner
>tranime
opinion discarded. you're underage

Yeah, cool story sister, I hope you're doing great with your transformation or whatever.

I am a girl

I am a boy

>>723039043
>be lord edgar
>fight my mirage
>his t1 unit has these stats

>>723039847
Yeah mirages are fun, when I fought it with schism army, its hero had not only twice as much stats as mine, it also had x 1.5 as many units.. but all you need is stack of ranged units, spell which prevents enemy unit from shooting and its ez win.

>might hero with bonus to spells
>magic hero with bonus to basic attack
no wonder that faction is called schizo

>>723038005
>Been enjoying my cringe phase right now and just watching lots of vampire shit and playing vampire-focused games lately.
I wish you joy.

>>723040728
don't talk shit on my stargazer boy
being able to zap problem enemies with heroic strike every turn gives you a lot of room to just buff up your units

>>723039135
The original angels were just robots anyway, so its not that much of a difference.

>>723030759
>3) 90 sanguine liches restoring around 800 skellies which is probably like 4k health is not that much, only less than 50hp per unit, and you lose your turn to attack
Its still resurrection on a unit, if you are going to win the battle anyway you might as well replenish your troops and ranged stacks are valuable for early clearing

>>723041047
>it's just a robot anyway

I have it on my wishlist but typically don't bother with demos, seeing these nice monster designs and how there's a lot of content I might actually install this one

>Click arena because want to see what it is
>Select random hero
>Select eight skills
>Select eight artifacts
>Select eight spells
>Select 8 burgers, 8 fries, 8 tacos, 8 cokes
>Click the back button

>>723041435
the arena mode is probably better titled "build test mode"

>>723041435
Same

I never played HoMM. Which one should I start with? I've seen anons comment VI and VII sucks and III is good but I've also seen other anons say III is too simple and dated. Are there other games similar to HoMM worth playing?

>>723041913
Olden Age demo
HOMM3 + HotA
Song of Conquest
That's about it

reminder to click this

>>723042315
what exactly does it do? other than the obvious

>>723030239
>You have Tier 1 100(Melee), Tier 2 50(Range), Tier 7 5(Flying/Melee).
Assume that enemy have the same number, which one would you kill first to get most value and win the combat also you get to move first.

>>723042498
>kill 2 so it can't chip my 7
>bait enemy 7 and kill on next turn
>cleanup melee once it joins the fight 3 turns later
I mean this really relies on what spells you have and what the monster abilities and ranges are

>>723042624
What are you going to kill T2 with? If you fly to enemy T2, enemy T7 would atk your T7 so you lose a counterstrike which give enemy T1 to score free hit on your T7. Both are castle faction.

>enemy hero has like 40 of the tier 7 units 2 months into the game
How am I suppose to win this? This is on normal

You guys -ARE- upgrading the spells you use right?

>>723042498
Nuke the ranged stack with spells/my own stack, wait for the t7 to attack me then double dick it with my melee units, when the tier 7 goes down I can continue taking shots at his ranged units with my own, his tier 1 units aren't a problem if I still have a ranged stack

>>723037453
I like playing the human hero focused on Archers because that guarantees an easy early gayme.

How do I see what stats even do, like I can't find anywhere what the "knowledge" stat even do

>>723043519
press shift

is this game actually fun or is it similar to the indie HOMM clone that came out recently where you're supposed to abuse spellcasting with tons of 1-unit stacks

>>723037843
Mine is Walkha. Theres at least one good chick per faction so far, hopefully we get a hot bugger with Hive.

>>723041913
3 and 5 were the best ones. Olden Era is basically the same as 3, so you could just try this demo and see if you like it.

Or, alternatively, skip this franchise altogether and play Age of Wonders 4 for a superior version of the same concept.

>>723044596
>Age of Wonders 4
This is the way

>grants all unlearned subskills of intelligence
>one of the subskills is literally "level up instantly"
>unequip and equip
>level up
>right click for faster cycling of unequipping and equipping
>lvl 50 maxlevel
yeah that's probably a bugreport lmao

>>723044801
pranked!!!

>>723032456
>wow tier item art
every time I see more of this game I hate it even more

Is the franchise still owned by Ubisoft?

>>723045339
Apparently not since this isn't published by them.

>>723045339
unfortunately, I keep hoping any day ubi is kill

>>723045467
I thought Ubi licenced the IP to these guys. Not directly involved but they got paid out of it

>>723042054
>>723044596
Cool. I will check age of wonders and 3. Quick question: 3 HD or complete?

>>723043314
have more than them lol
this was my army in the 1 month solo hero scenario I just played, depends on map ofc

>>723045978
Complete. The HD version didn't include the expansions, and is an overall shittier version.

>>723045480
that might explain the generic art direction
it's probably some old fart higer ups still think all medieval fantasy video games must look like warcraft

>>723041913
3, 2, 5 Chronicles.
4 is a lot different to the others, hard to say if it's good or not because of how different it is.
1 is barebones compared to its descendants.
6 doesn't exactly suck but it's non-functional due to always online bs that's no longer around.
7 bad.

I'm not crazy

Damn the towers in cities are way stronger than I thought

>>723046804
>>723045978
Thank you based anons. Already downloaded all of the games you recommended

>>723028565
Silver hair with brown or choco skin is peak design, Helena Storm, etc. Good shit

>>723031376
Bracada was desert in M&m and it was Indian/Arab themed in HOMMV. Always loved Rahkshasas and how they change with the upgrade

>>723036809
I got fucked by the Kittenhornes. It was karma.. I've got to say that art aside I really like the creature and ability variety.

>>723028281 (OP)
when will normal might and magic come back? I've never been able to get into strategy games.

>>723038275
Pfft. Nothing compares to the OG OP necro units, the dreaded Homm2 ghost. Every time it killed a unit the stack grew by the same amount PERMAMENTLY so if it killed 500 peasants with 40 ghosts you had 540 after the fight

>>723050336
not a necro unit

>>723039135
Even in death I still serve.
Lore wise angels always were androids in M&m. Since you recruit them from the Radiant Forge they probable went for that

>>723032658
I love HoMM4 music so much, it was so great. Best in the series for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDXNSWJLuo

>>723032604
>and unbalanced
Most of HoMM were unbalanced, thought.

>>723041913
1 Sucks. 2, 3 and 5 are all solid choices. 4 is a good game but too different to anything that came before AND after. Avoid 6 like the plague. Avoid 7,but I enjoyed it. It has very nice music. It had great creature synergies and some good ideas but a mediocre execution at best.

Who knew the demo would bring out all the boomers and slavs out of the wood work.

>>723050304
Heroes got popular because the strategy element can be very minimal. A lot of people play it as a pokemon RPG game, but you also need to protect your gym as well as conquer others.

>>723050948
Everyone knew that.

>>723032482
how can you look at that picture and ever think that ?

>>723053397
It's very simple, he's actually played it instead of just looking at the pictures

>gog removed localized prices for HoMM
>can't complete the collection anymore
sadge

>>723038527
>boost to attack AND defense
Wow, slow down there cowboy.

>>723030239
And done with my first 200% apocalyptic difficulty game.
Different from 150% creeping is definitely harder, even normal sawmill had rather large stacks so I needed to level up a bit with pickups and get a few more heroes to get more units before I could comfortably take things on.
Which reminds me how the Twilight spell which shut downs ranged units is so good and Dungeon's Clown hero gets it at level 1. Ridiculous how OP dungeon is in this game but I digress.

enemy AI this time around was definitely more aggressive, although with this map there are A LOT of creature dwellings and I mean you can get tier 6 and tier 7 units from like 4 dwellings(2 for each respectively) in your first area far faster than building up your city. That contributed a lot to snowballing my skelly stack and stopping AI in time from snowballing. In this map if you don't take the middle area fast enough its basically over since it contains like 4 cities.
>>723047618
This is a bug, and I had another bug(Probably)where I couldn't affect enemy armies with negative effects. I have no idea if this is a skill or something but its like they all had the same protection the angel had from negative effects NONE of my spells worked other than berserk.
Thanks to that I had to give up on casting nightshade magic almost entirely which is ridiculous. Again though it worked normally on creeps until I met the enemy heroes so idk what's going on.

>>723054103
The series was on sale for like $2. What country are you in that that is not doable?

>>723036143
Why are you and your ilk lying? There is no such thing. Even on largest map if you went with 5 heroes you would get jackshit xp you would reach max level 10 with them. And if the difficulty would be higher than normal you would die to a fucking sawmill guardians. You would get buttfucked by a regular army plus 2 heroes. Retards spouting stupid shit that never even played anything but campaign piss me off

>>723055184
Was it really necessary to give t2 agile twink elf unit to two different factions?

Was it really necessary to give t2 agile twink elf unit to two different factions?

Is Sandro in?

>>723054103
>>723054635
Alright, I was exaggerating a bit, but the prices are different. The Collection is 5$ more than buying each game separately, manually. I hate women, love from Kazakhstan.

>>723055632
no old heroes from previous entries, no.

>>723055747
what the fuck man...

>>723055442
Things like this makes me miss HoMM5 art style.

>>723029903
>6 arms
6 armpits
imagine

>>723055747
There's actually Vatawna from Heroes 2 in Sylvan but they made her quite ugly

>>723055879
all of them are mine and mine alone

>>723054239
Not just that, a boost to attack and defense based on attack and defense!

I think the black dragon is way overdesigned.

>>723029830
>>723029903
Where's my fucking Tower?

>>723055747
If that's the case, why there is Galthran on the game web page? I think I also saw Thant and Halon posted somewhere, but I can't find it. Galthran and Thant aren't in the Necropolis hero roster so I'm guessing they're campaign only heroes?

>>723037453
Played that ice queen, shit was pretty cash.

>>723056229
Wait, I found Halon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSDDvdcDXiU

>>723056320
I this has to be Thant.

>>723056229
In case anyone doubted it's Galthran.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWX3YFcvsx4

Also there's Vatawna in the druid faction as this anon >>723055975 already mentioned.

How does Necromancy work in this game? What exactly is being revived?

>>723056320
Is this the rampart equivalent faction?

>after 2 months the ai has a much larger army than me
>this happened in two different games now
Why? I did nothing wrong. I did everything correct.

how the fuck you're supposed to use ascension after you build all tier units?
>here, wait until your 10 inquisitors die to get you small buff

>>723056814
>I did everything correct.
How?

>>723055975
To be fair she was always quite ugly so it's still a improvement.

>>723051951
It's too complicated for me. Too many numbers and variables attached to it. I don't quite know how to get good at them either. This brand of strategy and RTS games are easily the genres I'm weakest at. I do love how these games look and the music and I can appreciate the gameplay at a glance but I just feel like when there are this many moving parts I can't easily parse how to win. I know managing gold/items/units and whatnot is paramount but I have trouble executing on these things. Wizardry never did this shit to me.

>>723028281 (OP)
I like the game but have no idea why they went for this cartoony / mobile pg13 art style. Imagine it was like gwent art

>>723056814
2 months and you uncovered only this little part of the map?

>>723057009
She looked like an elf who's pushing 40.

>>723057009
How come her eyebrows are brown in Homm2? Does she dye her hair?

>>723028281 (OP)
>Olden Era
God, even the titles now are begging you to associate the new slop with the entries that were actually good.
>sure we ruined the series, but pleeeeaaaaaase feel nostalgic and buy it anyway!

>>723055846
I mean that was just 100% WoW

>>723056802
It's Ramflux

>>723055846
HoMM5 was the game that transformed warlock into some weird elf assassin bullshit that then had to be progressively reigned back in over the following games and STILL we have these weird rogues and chakram wielders that just don't make much sense outside of Ashan

>>723043365
There is so much shit to upgrade. Always forgetting.

>>723057478
It's not, it's H2 Sorceress but with Qilin instead of unicorns and weird tree stumps instead of dwarves. In H3 Sorceress lost faeries and phoenixes because... I don't know, too bright for serious dark fantasy? Only to have them added back in to pad Shitflux. Always hated that move.

when will someone make a homm clone with modern military setting?

>>723056229
>>723055747
Octavia is also in. And she's Sylvan hero, what the hell.

>>723057504
literally they’re just drow/druchii who have enslaved various creatures in the underdark and use them as weapons.
When I first saw them in H5 that was my immediate impression.
I don’t think that’s a bad thing necessarily but yea can be a turn off for some H3 fanatics.

>>723057039
Gwent or TES card game art is great, but generic in its own right, wouldn't fit M&M imo.

why is it all gay LoL art, where the fuck is the original art style

>>723057765
This will SURELY attract the zoomers

>>723057765
HoM&M was always a trend chaser.

>>723057765
artstyle's generic but at least it's not visual vomit.
the real uglyness is during battles imo, units really look they come from a mobile game

>all the boomers itt who played the original games and hate to see what has become of the series
>mfw being a zoomer, never played homm before and thinking olden era looks neat
surely this will never happen to a series i like when i get old

>>723058002
boomers were already complaining back when 5 came out, no one should listen to them anymore in 2025

>>723058085
Those boomers who were alive for HoM&M5 are in retirement home now.

>>723058085
To be fair the series had a hard life, not a single game since III releasing in a finished state. V got some polish over time but that's about it.

>>723058195
and they still play homm3

*block your path*

How do you even end a game when there's 20 towns and the enemy got like 6 heroes just walking around everywhere?

>>723058257
take the towns and kill the heroes retard, what do you think

>>723030237
>People praising HoMM IV soundtrack.

Anon, most of those tracks are from royalty-free libraries and existing classical pieces.

>>723056187
It's on a completely different continent than Bracada, so no Tower.

>>723058002
I know it's hard growing up with everything being hyper feminized, but we actually used to have masculine art

>>723057765
>where the fuck is the original art style

What the fuck do you even mean by that? The only games that had a coherent art style were the first two. Other than that they radically shifted from title to title.

>>723058373
I don't think you know what coherent means

>>723058350
That's because a lot of those are painted-over and modified portraits of real-life people, similar to what Baldur's Gate 1 did.

Why won't boomers make their own games, exactly like they want?
They must have enough money saved and other likeminded boomers to coop with. Unity and 20 people should enough to make another WC3, Fallout, M&M, with black jack and hookers.

>>723058570
This is boomers making their own game exactly like they want. The problem is that some boomers can't agree on what they want.

>>723058257
Get your doomstack/main stack and keep pushing and taking towns one by one, you can also attack undefended towns with smaller stacks to annoy your opponent. But usually when you get your main army and start pushing the AI will meet you with their own doomstack.
Now it depends if you manage to beat their main stack you go in aggressively.
Also use your dimension door, second wind etc to outmaneuver them.
Also there’s a spell I forgot the name which lets you scout for enemy towns and heroes when you fully upgrade it. With that you can always know where they are even in fog. Gives you enormous advantage.

>>723057028
The main chore of HoMM series is logistic, you need more heroes to do a lot of stuff - you need someone who would hire and deliver fresh units, you need a scout to explore the area where your main army would go, you need someone who would just run around d the map and gather resources. And your enemies would do the same, so at some point your areas would be flooded with low-level heroes with small armies, but who'll be robbing your resources and took yours mines and that's the real pain in the ass to deal with such cockroaches. I honestly really hate this part of HoMM. It's such stressful that it was the most basic troll tactics against other player back in the day, your game could go on forever.

>>723058350
What's exactly masculine art to you? Asking as an artist.

>>723057413
And it's still better that whatever they tried in every next game.

This whole setting being on Jadame makes no sense. We know what Jadame is like, we had it in M&M 8- it was mostly dark elves, trolls and minotaurs. This is some OC donut steele setting.

>>723058570
Sure, lemme grab my patreon link, don't let the last updated date discourage you :^)

>>723058252
sex with all of the triangles in this picture

How the fuck does the terrain tutorial work

>>723058570
Boomers made HotA and majority of players loves it.

>>723058729
Not gay feminine art. thanks for asking

>>723059003
Cheers!

>>723058854
Literally no one cares about the setting, especially considering M&M series.

>>723059091
Trust me some people autistically care about the setting.

>>723059091
I car.

>>723057765
my wife

>>723059091
kills me that some people take the lore of m&m seriously when it's just an assortment of random bullshit

>>723059310
But it's my random bullshit.

>>723058982
Figured it out.
Why do skellingtons give more movement points than swordsmen?
They're slower

>>723059252
That's just a depressed, pouting Jinx.

>>723059437
native terrain bonus

>>723059437
They are native to death terrain, it tells you in a tutorial message at the start.

>>723059437
skeletons don't have muscles thus they don't get tired

>>723059483
>>723059503
Oh, I'm retarded
The unit speed = movement points isn't a thing anymore?

>>723058570
>Why won't boomers make their own games, exactly like they want?
they do
hence HoTA and all the other mods for HoMM exist
this is also why VCMI and fHeroes 2 exist

>>723058854
Does it really matter? Exhibit uno >723059091
You can still play the old games, theorize for your own pleasure, play and make mods respectful of the setting.

For example, have you considered that MM8 likewise was a subject to extensive script alteration after NWC pulled full stops with the Forge? The concept was partly acknowledged in the Heart of the Abyss.
https://heroes3wog.net/interview-with-greg-fulton-about-angels-gelu-and-heavenly-forge/

>>723030907
I love ost from all homm parts

>>723058985
>>723059602
Makes since desu
Boomers don't want new thing, but old thing remixed, changed, bent to their will and whimsy. Preferably for free, even if takes a long time to make.

>>723032482
This game have only good music and Heroes

>>723058729
It's quite simple anon
He is now middle aged
The old art makes him feel younger
The new art reminds him he is older
This makes him feel sad to notice, so he will ascribe it to something nonsensical like the art being masculine when if a modern game's art presented him with misshapen women's faces and shaved women with topknots (ttly nothing like an undercut!) and retarded goofy mans staring off into space he'd call it feminist slop

>>723057039
>why they went for this cartoony / mobile pg13 art style
ubisoft outsourced this to unfrozen which is a small studio
they'd probably have to kick out their artists out on the curb and hire new ones to do a different art style

I agree though, this art style sucks donkey dick and balls

>>723059310
It could be cool but they shoehorned their sci-fi so bad.

>>723028578
Lizards and dragonflies are too based

>>723028578
Alkin too strong

>>723059893
Ooooh shit, I get it now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA3D1UtSSQo

>>723059893
The grim reaper comes for all of us, one day you'll understand.

>have this weird feeling about the icons and artstyle as it reminds me of some other game's
>suddenly remember LoL has these kind of icons
it all makes sense now

>>723028578
To sell dlc. Im more surprised why they want to make lovecraftian fraction so bad. I remember even in King's bounty 2 they've made some sort of eldritch horror fraction.

>>723060115
the irony is Lol used to have normal art but transformed into chinese pandering gacha in recent years

>>723060380
yep,old LoL looked "goofy" but unique in its own way

>>723059091
>>723059310
you're both brown
>>723059310
you could say that about any fictional setting ever
>>723060003
silence negro, science fantasy is peak genre
if a sight of a spaceship or a robot offends you then take your snowflake ass back to tolkien

>>723060380
It was always shitty looking cartoony garbage trying to emulate Dota 1 look. Just a different flavor with more money poured into it now.

>>723060570
>Dota 1 look
custom map made from WC3 and other stolen assets, wc3 looks like shit for todler too my guy

>>723060561
I'm russian and literally zero players in homm community give a fuck about m&m lore.

>>723060897
Of course, the real fans are in Poland.

Stats looking really good for a demo.

>>723060936
That's funny because Poland isn't real.

>>723060561
t. HotA nigger

>>723060561
>science fantasy is peak genre
I would actually agree if it done right, I like it. But in homm it's fucking awful.

>>723060897
>tourist doesn't care about previous titles
This describes most HoMMIII "fans"

I don't understand this, how do you know how to fill out the subclasses(?)

I loved HoMM2 and 3, grudgingly liked 4, wanted to like 1 but got filtered by it, hated everything after Ubisoft took over the series. Is this worth trying?

>>723061705
yes it's a great game.

>>723061589
You can go for this they’re ok but it locks you into specific kind of gameplay like in H5 whenever you wanted to get your ultimate skillwheell.

>>723061769
Is there any way to see this in-game?

>>723061705
How valuable is your time in $ USA?
Pirate the demo at least.

>>723061842
never saw it myself you just get an icon on top of a skill when you level up that shows you that’s what you need for advanced class

>>723060998
That's what Poles want you to think.

>>723054404
Full dragon set gives controller's units immunity to negative effects, maybe it was that
>>723061842
On the level up screen the relevant skills will have a matching icon to whatever subclass it contributes to

>>723061747
Thanks anon.
>>723061906
I'm a renowned time waster, so not much. But good idea
Wait, PIRATE a demo?

>>723062037
Yu don't want to let ""them"" know you like playing new HoMM game, trust me.

>>723062167
who the fuck is Yu

>>723062167
I'll just use my burner computer in my burner house

Downloading the demo, never played an HoMM game before though I did enjoy the King's Bounty games a long time ago. Got any tips for me?

>>723062167
Take meds

>>723062368
>>723062521
>>723062698
The Fr*nch

>>723057009
Left is just hag, right is like they trying to sexy hag energy

>>723062657
Enjoy

>>723029903
She looks like she fucks Wizard men

another homam where dragageddon is laughably OP
we're home

>>723062657
read and try not optimize or stress too much at first

>>723062657
Play on easy
Explore
Don't waste units

>>723028281 (OP)
>another game for kids

>>723063870
damn, those must be some big-ass kids

>>723061589
>>723061769
>forced to savescum if you want any of these
A bit sad

>>723030237
>Even 5 had more memorable tunes.
The fuck do you mean "even"? 5 has amazing music.

Can I play these games naturally? Or you gotta optimize, exploit and go for best stuff from the start else it be impossible to beat?

>>723054404
>)where I couldn't affect enemy armies with negative effects
this isn't a bug
there's a skill which gives your troops immunity from negative effects

>>723064202
You can, just play Might and Magic IX.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBoIfiqjhWo
>tfw we will never get another fairytalemaxxing pixel-style HOMM
feels bad man

>>723028281 (OP)
i tried getting into this game (homm3 and the tut of this game) and the combat is just pure garbage i cant force myself to play this

>>723064202
These games aren't that difficult and discovering what's broken is part of the fun
Don't listen to this >>723064774 retard MM9 is unplayable garbage

>>723064990
It's funny and absurd garbage.

>>723064202
It's harder to understand where to go and what to do than just killing enemies.

>>723061239
I'd like HoTA if it didn't switch Forge for Factory
HoMM didn't need a steampunk faction
>>723061443
>But in homm it's fucking awful.
if anything, it's in M&M not HoMM
and if it is so awful then provide a better example, I'll gladly check it out

not fond of the ice cthulu faction to be honest lads i mean the idea is cool but all units are literaly gray/blue dude with tentacles

>>723065381
I laterally cannot tell their units apart

>>723055184
>didn't happen blah blah
nice argument

>>723065271
I once had a bug where bookshelves become sitting figures with animation but with bookshelf textures.

>>723064904
I just realized the reason this HoMM game feels off is that it lacks the comfy fairytale/fantasy feel.

>>723065428
>I laterally cannot tell their units apart
have you tried to tell them apart medially?

>>723064904
wheres the boar and spearman upgrade?

>>723062657
It's TBS, not a singleplayer RPG. So probably your first enemy hero would have much better army and more level than you. You probably can play with single-hero mode, but usually you need to hire a lot of additional heroes so your main hero wouldn't waste his movements.

How do simultaneous turns work?

>>723065770
While they're active you and your opponent take turns at the same time so you don't have to wait for each other.

So, am I supposed to hire as many heroes as possible or is there a mechanic where it's good to always have 1 hero in a base so he can protect it when under siege? How long would a pvp match last? So much to upgrade, so much to keep track of, like my own turn would easily take 5+ minutes

HoMM6 is not that bad...

>>723065770
Every player can play at the same time while they're active.
Internally the map is split into smaller parts. As long as two players haven't setp within the same part (meaning they won't make conflicting actions) the turns are simultaneous. The moment a second player steps on a part explored by another hero, the turns are rolled back and the setting changes to traditional turn based to preserve the integrity of the game.

>no caravans from neutral dwellings to cities
>still have to have a ton of rando lowbie heroes running around zones visiting windmills and leprechauns for resources

Just add those features like HoMM 4 and 5 had. Nobody likes spending MONDAY, the "best" day of the week when you should get a shitton of new units to play with and conquer harder fights running around your already controlled zone for weekly resources. And by the time your tax collectors have almost finished their rounds its likely day 5 or 6 and you gotta do it AGAIN in a few turns. Fuck.

>>723064904
if it was, you would still find something to complain about

>>723065770
Each player plays the game "separately", limited by a turn timer. When one player sees another, reaches a certain date or enters a specific part of the map the simturns end and the game plays normally. Sometimes the game needs to roll back a turn when that happens.
This was all done to expedite multiplayer, a 1v1 on a regular map like menus cross for example can take like 4-5 hours even WITH sum turns, imagine if you had to wait for another person to complete theirs every time.

>>723034085
i feel like the diff bump between 100% and 125% is crazy

This seems like a bug

>>723065926
It's not bad "conceptually", but they did everything in their power to make me hate it. And apparently it's publisher fault. Which is not that surprising. Fuck that game.

>>723065926
I agree

>>723066086
armageddon VFX looks like that?

>>723065343
>HoMM didn't need a steampunk faction
If you want a sci-fi fraction with cyberzombies and goblins with flamethrowers then steampunk wild west fraction should be allowed too.

>>723065889
I'm pretty sure there is a single-hero mode, also probably in campaigns you would mainly use only a couple of heroes, at least at the start.

>>723028281 (OP)
Tried it. Surprisingly bad.The graphics are generic bubbly WoW graphics. There's no distinctive art design or music. The combat is clumsily trying to be complex by just adding more buttons to press, but it compromises the fundamentals and it's just ability spam.

3/10. Generic and the devs don't understand that modernization isn't just adding more shit, it has to come together into something.

>>723066228
No it's a spell that reveals all the positions of all neutral monsters on the map

>>723065602
That is the pikeman upgrade
Boars don't have an upgrade in 2.

The design is controversial, but I liked the demo. It's sad that the release is delayed until 2026. By the way, what can you say about the SoC? Is it worth playing while waiting for the release of HoMM?

https://www.twitch.tv/viev
Check random streamer, a woman in a stupid suit plays on impossible difficulty while /v/ get complains they get destroyed on easy, is /v/ so bad at games or shes that good?

>>723066926
You can play other not homm meanwhile, i kinda find its overworld design more readable than both song of conquest and olden era, it is a bit too zany though.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2147380/Heroes_of_Science_and_Fiction/

>>723067402
>Silence of the Siren now Heroes of Science and Fiction
Heh.

>>723066931
half this thread is crying about non-gameplay related things, that should tell you just how much /v/ likes videogames

Btw when during autocombat AI cheats.
I was doing a dwelling with griffins in it and AA did it without any loses but when tried manual combat I relized it was impossible because only 2 stacks out of 7 had higher ini than them.

>>723067639
Most of the game's faults are in presentation, so not in gameplay, chuddie wubbie.

>>723028578
why is fortress so underrated ...

>>723067725
gameplay is the only thing that matters lil tourist

>>723067713
Yeah, same with black towers (so vs dragons).
AI does it with no losses but manual battle it's impossible to have no losses because dragon goes first.

>>723067556
It is a really dumb name and i don't know why the fuck they thought it would be a good idea.

>>723067402
>>723067556
What a shitty name change
Is it any good? I played a demo during some steam nextfest and don't remember much

is there any hope they redo the ui completely? i absolutely hate it, looks like mobile garbo and is unintuitive to use.
at least give us icon tooltips ffs, why are they not in the game?

>>723066014
why dont you go fix the game instead of shilling it on a russian basketweaving forum thanks

>>723067713
Yeah, the game sometimes presents you with too few losses or what's essentially unavodaible bloodbaths in your army.

>>723067763
Hard to enjoy gameplay when you can't even tell what you're looking at.

>>723067849
The UI is an amalgamation of every HoMM after 4 and I doubt they'll change it
>at least give us icon tooltips ffs, why are they not in the game?
Holding shift/alt seems to give more info on various things. Hoping they'll improve, it's like half a year away from early access launch after all

>Two castles next to each other
But why?

>>723068085
Pick Shamrock or Jebus.

>>723068085
Forgot the related picture.
>>723068148
That might be a good idea as this is just silly. My main castle is slightly north of these two.

I miss the ability to choose which units to (not) deploy into battle from HoMM V 5

>>723067926
only women make absurd exaggerations and youll never be one

>Have to delete saved games from the AppData folder
The save folder is going to take up a lot of space in no time.

The maps spawns WAAAAAAY too many towns

>>723068236
Went to check and how can these save files be so large lol, the whole save folder is 600mb

Do simul turns give AI an advantage? I'll try turning it off on my new playthrough.

What's the point of the "wait" command vs just skipping a turn?

>>723068386
You get to act later on in the turn

>>723068191
>exaggerations
Wow, look at all this ???
Bonus points if you can spot my sun heralds

>>723068386
Skipping turn skips your turn.
Waiting lets you act later in the same turn. For fast units that means potentially acting twice in a row.

>>723068564
fuck off schizo
ywnbaw

>>723068386
>What's the point of the "wait" command vs just skipping a turn?
anon it's simple
wait with your archers to make enemy melee move forward so you can do more damage with your archers

>>723068564
I don't even know which is worse - ctulhu fraction or transforming inferno into zergs.

>>723068649
I know.
ywnbam

>>723068793
Lorelet esl

>>723068952
Ah yes, ctulhus were famously all over Jadame in M&M8, lorelet.

>>723069009
That's not the lorelet part, esl

>>723069074
Which part of the lore turned Kreegans into zergs?

>thought that schism is some reimagined Dungeon
>see Dungeon right next to it
buwah? who the fuck are these guys supposed to be Heroes6/7 expies?

This already plays better than Songs of Conquest. They're also not jewish to give you only 4 factions in base game. The UI in Olden Era is horrendous mobile crap though.

>>723069119
not telling

>>723069119
Give demon a break, they have been nemesis since forever.

Can you even find it in the demo?

>>723066086
Get Annihilated , idiot.

>>723069205
Nobody, they're not mentioned in any previous HoMM title.
However they replaced academy sadly.
There was no need to replace academy tbqh considering they were one of the very few factions which nobody had an issue with and even in heroes 7(never mind H5) they had the most mechanics and were one of the the more fun factions to play.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx6R3YgmK0s

>>723069205
Schism is the Tower function - snowy terrain, lots of expensive but powerful abilities, lots of ranged units (including T1), magic focused

>>723069474
yes there's a mirror/mirage building where you have to fight a stronger version of yourself and you get rewarded with the grail. I warn you though it ain't easy.

>>723069682
Their magic guild only goes to level 4 thoughever

>>723067849
not in this short timeframe,i don't think they will redo it unfortunately

Can I bully the AI longer, I dont want the game to end yet

>>723070303
In Disciples II when I need more exp I would give my enemy free gold through diplomacy so he could buy another hero and troops. Don't know if it's possible in homm.

>>723057669
>>723057669
oe is a prequel

>>723070303
is this single hero mode?

>>723070303
>I wish the summer would never end

noice, I thought it was stuck in development hell or forgotten

Is it me or units cost way too much?
I especially mean tier 4/5 I feel like I always don't have gold to buy out them weekly.

>a whole bunch of tutorials
>4/6 of the launch factions
>3 skirmish maps and 3 game modes
This has to be the heftiest demo I've seen in forever. It's basically an open beta that never ends.

>>723071105
They're not taking it away after a while?

>>723071105
Yeah, I really like it.
Also 95% of questions in those threadsbwould be anwsered if anons played turotoriel.

>>723071191
Can they forcefully remove a demo from my library? It's not a live service game afterall, right?

>>723071253
It could just be disabled
Like how Free Weekend works

>no 1v7 maps
why even bother

>>723071105
It's actually 6 maps, classic and single hero each have a pool of 3 different maps

>>723069626
>any previous HoMM title.
Gelu is a Vori and Vori are in Schism
they're also in Might and Magic the RPG Blobber
The entirety of OE is set in a place that was only in the Blobber

>>723071253
Not sure, but some of the other games I tried that had demos had a set date where you couldn't play it anymore. Might be a Steam Next Fest thing though.

>>723056814
Game is tuned to jebus cross autists. So if you aren't doing week 1 breaks you are pretty much screwed (at least on 200%).
Also it's pretty much rng, either the AI snowballs you or it doesn't even get to break before you crush them. It must be a an AI bleeds out too much army on X encounters issue

>>723057669
IF Milfala is in, I will now buy your game

>>723056691
>How does Necromancy work in this game? What exactly is being revived?
Everything. You get more undead units after every battle based on how much HP you killed in the battle

>>723028565
Queen of hearts edit when?

What's the 3D Engine?

>>723058886
I really loved Re-Life. I've got to. Rewatch it

>>723071893
It's on unity

>>723057765
that's nothing to lol about

>>723059091
I care because m&m is high fantasy
With Spaceships, Literal ayylmaos and interplanetary war. It's much more interesting than regular fantasy. But I understand why they went for just fantasy.

>>723071739
Never you retarded monkey

>>723071739
Built for Edric

God I hate Dust.

>>723060986
They will probably sell 500k-1M. Don't know if that's good or not

>>723064202
>Or you gotta optimize, exploit
If you play it modded (MM678 Merge), then yeah, no guarantees you wouldn't have to. I think original games should run fine on modern systems, but you could always try applying GrayFace patch.

>>723067906
>not laptiweaving or gusliplucking
One job

>>723072468
That seems unbelievably optimistic even for HOMM.

Be honest bros. Is the one hero only mode FUN. It looks like how we used to play homm when we were 10 years old.

>>723072589
Its how I'm used to playing because of hotseat house rules, so a turn doesn't take ages. Now I'm glad that I can force that on the cpu

>>723072589
its fun when playing against a friend but i wouldnt do it vs ai

>>723072589
Reject modernity, embrace tradition.

>>723072914
I wish the new one wasn't ass

I don't remember stack of tier 1 units actually dealing damage in homm3

>>723073034
When was the last time you played homm3

>>723071350
allegedly OE happens centuries before events in the blobbers
either Crag Hack & friends are immortal or this shit doesn't make any sense

>>723073034
Did you only play Conflux?

>>723072960
I didn't think King's Bounty 2 was all too bad. The biggest problem with it was its length. It hit me like a brick when I realized I was close to the end of the game, when I thought I was barely 30% of the way through...

>>723069119
Kreegans are ayylmaos that invade and conquer multiple worlds. They have hives , a queen, collective mind. And most kreegans are mass produced in cloning vats. They arent demons in M&m. That was a homm thing. I like regular Inferno and The bugs. Porque no los dos?

>>723072960
Although I enjoyed collecting a harem of Valkyries

>>723030239
THis looks so fucking ugly, jesus christ

If ur game is getting visually mogged by something tht came out 26 years ago then maybe u should just stop and reconsider

>>723073034
A tier 1 stack that approaches the quadruple digits is scarier than most t4-6 stacks that are in the double digits. Under the right circumstances, of course.

>>723073150
King's Bounty 2 is not King's Bounty, it's Ascension to the Throne 2. Just like Disciples: Liber/Domination is not Disciples, it's the shitty version of King's Bounty.

>>723030949
Americans are as short sighted as ever

>>723073139
Conflux t1 sluts will carry your early game and you will like it.

>>723072562
I don't even know how much Song of Conquest sold. Whatever it is multiply by 5 and that's very likely

>>723064202
yes, just download greyface patch (don't use the merge if you're playing for the first time, mm6/7 get kind of broken by the 8s engine)

>>723073302
>Ascension to the Throne
huh. Never heard about it.
Thanks, I just put it on my wishlist.

>>723072562
>>723073403
soc has sold an estimated 700k copies, devs said they had sold 500k during early access

>>723073403
>>723073517
Do we know the price of the full release?

>>723073447
You will be surprised finding out the same kingdoms' names in King's Bounty 2.

>>723073517
If soc sold that much then olden era will easily get 2 million sales.

>those units
This literally looks like a kiddie mobile game lol

>>723073517
If soc sold that much then olden era will easily get 2 sales.

>>723073517
Then this will surely sell at least 500k.SoC only did so well because boomers were starved for ANYTHING that resembles Homm3 gameplay. Played SoC, liked it but at the end of the day I just thought "wouldn't it be nice to get a decent new mainline Homm that doesn't Rape the franchise,? Nah, why would something good ever happen?

Now here we are. I guarantee 90%of the SoC player base will buy this game day one.

>>723073517
SoC came out at the perfect time, just before big HotA updates and before OE was announced, in hindsight that came isn't very good and wouldn't sell anywhere near as much if it came out today

>>723073728
yeah it severally lacks content. 4 fucking factions and the rest are dlc? fuck off
oh and the campaign for each faction is like 4 maps.

>>723073286
I'm still not sure, whether H3 visuals aged flawlessly, or is it just nostalgia goggles. Better for some random people, who haven't played the games and visit these threads randomly to comment on.

>>723072562
750k wishlist

>>723073831
it's an indie dev, the scope of the project isn't nearly the same as HOMM, my bigger problem with SOC is the pixel based graphics that look like ass.

>>723073874
even as a child growing up with these games (started with HoMM2) I always felt like the aesthetic of 3 was superior to the others. 4 looked like all the units were made out of plastic and 5 looked too cartoony.

>>723073931
I don't know why the art style of oe triggers people so much but regardless it is a hundred times better than the mess that was soc

>>723074014
It's way better than HoMM5 too. HoMM players have seen some shit.

>>723074014
>I don't know why the art style of oe triggers people
Because HOMM3 has been ingrained into our brains over the last 25 years.

>>723028281 (OP)
I'm not feeling this. It's no HoMM3 or HoMM5

weirdly it's the UI that's putting me off. 3 and 5 had really nice UI

>>723032561
>>723032313
I played H3 modded so that overworld spells didn't exist and weekly resource buildings were capturable. Both made the game a lot more enjoyable. All hero movement was meaningful.
Too bad they didn't want to kill these sacred cows for OE.

>>723073874
Well, I grew up with H5 and still vastly prefer that. I don’t hate H3’s art style, but I always think while playing that it would look so much cooler in H5’s art style

>>723074187
I think the UI is good enough.
It's just that everything takes one click too much and there's not enough hotkeys

>>723074187
my largest complain is that I can't just right click a unit to get more info about it, I got no fucking clue on what my units does

>>723074369
>I can't just right click a unit to get more info about it
It works on enemy units but not our own, and I don't understand why.

>>723074187
>5 had really nice UI
?

The silver lining of this thread is that even if the full release is complete shit if they reach at least an X amount of sales it could signal a new beggining of the homm franchise (and hopefully a new m&m game). My question is. How many sales do you think Ubisoft needs to say OK, you can work on the sequel of Olden Era And Dlcs before scrapping the whole project. Because 6 and 7 looked like money sinks (high production costs, low sales) but if Olden Era is (very low production costs, mid sales but favorable cost/sales ratio). Would they still go for it?
My guess is. Under 500k. AXE IT
500K-1M. Either way
1M +. Make Dlcs ASAP
2M+ and beyond. Start working on a sequel.
What do you guys think?
There's interest on the internet for sure

>>723074486
simple and effective

>>723074486
big responsive buttons, mmm lovely

>>723072589
Yes, way less hassle and drama.

>>723074549
If it sell well then they will give the project to a larger team that doesn't know how to handle homm

>>723074317
Come on, Olivier Ledroit worked on HoMM V, that's why most of the hero portraits look cool.

Relax people, it still a demo.

>>723074549
Might and Magic needs to die.

>>723074549
Sad as it is to say, you really don't want to be successful under Ubisoft

>>723073627
if its a kiddy game why are you playing on easy like a bitch?
>>723073286
its not vanilla nigger. show how it looked like on crt in 800x600 with no mods available

>>723068793
Bugs is fucking trash, surely kreegan were due some redemption. I also think they shoudve gone lizardman instead of Cthulu, as a nod to mm8

>>723074775
its more of an beta considering the content, but it looks like they are after bugs and peoples thoughts so there is still hope

>>723074724
Cool another name to add to my proompts

>>723069793
if you have no spells and defensive army its impossible. got mogged so hard when i played necro it wasnt funny. 30% more army and double the stats, what a joke

>>723074892
>half a year away from early access release
>beta

>>723074549
Sales for the first week will definitely exceed the million mark. I hope that Ubisoft doesn't decide that they've finally created a new cash cow and start pestering the developers with their brilliant ideas. The developers of HoMM5 shared their experience with Ubisoft, where they constantly interfered with the development process. As they say in Russia, if it works, don't touch it.

>>723073874
No question, h3 artstyle is kino, H5 was also a great game, but its art style is ass and has only gotten worse as time goes by. H4 artstyle is a fucking mess. I dont play it nearly as much but H2s artstyle is also timeless. its not nostalgia, its just really well executed.

>>723074708
You know what? You are 100% right. It's definitely what regular Ubisoft would do. But they are bleeding rn and just the fact they gave Olden Era the greenlight signal the fact that they are so desperate for money they are willing to let devs work with creative freedom and passion as long as it makes them money.
One can only hope. But hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

>>723074895
Also did you know that HoMM V would have naga faction in cancelled third DLC?

>>723064904
When it comes to graphics and sound effects, HoMM 2 is still the best.

>>723075089
That faction made it to HoMM6
Only reason to try out that game

>>723075013
Remember - Ubisoft wanted HoMM V to become RTS.

>>723075089
huh i didnt know. i thought it did pretty well. so it wasnt selling that much?

>>723075089
Holy shit we've been robbed. Ubisoft really messed up managing this franchise. I feel robbed of Dark Messiah as well - of what it could have been.

HOTA sucks

>>723075138
All fucking recruitable heroes in all factions in HoMM VII are humans. What were they thinking?

How does the curse thing work? You get an artifact and you get cursed? Now what?

>>723075302
You're cursed.

>>723074841
We wouldnt be discussing it if it were truly dead. The point of making game is to sell them for profit. If you have a player base that wants X game. Why wouldn't you make a new one to make more money? Megaman was never a blockbuster sales wise but the people that want Megaman games REALLY want Megaman games. They don't have to do anything fancy. If they did Day of the Destroyer 2, with the exact same graphics as 20 years ago but with decent maps and quests I would gladly pay 20 or even 40 bucks for it. I know I'm not the only one

>>723075323
Curses

>>723075302
>How does the curse thing work?
It doesn't.

>>723075013
They did Nival so dirty it hurts. The towns of HommV will never be surpassed

>>723045326
That's praise

>>723075173
Granted, I don't mind the idea of making spinoffs. Clash of Heroes was fucking great.

>>723075434
It's not.

whats coolest looking faction/ legendary lord?

>>723075479
It is.

>>723075392
This shit is fucking bugged. Filed a report.
If you level up while cursed you don't get your stats back.

>>723074865
Im not playing this garbage

>>723075234
>Yves Guillemot: Our players would never want nagussy.

>>723075173
yes we remember
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTmhR1FL-ZM

>>723075517
Nope, warcraft post 2 = shit.

>>723055442
Schism is explicitly an Alvar spinoff, so that's why

>>723075573
go to bed unc

>>723075727
untz untz untz

>>723057009
This is a huge improvement and it still looks like her
It's really weird all the Slavs are seething about this game's artstyle. You will never be white

>>723054404
I played the 3 player classic mode map and there were no creature dwellings at all

>>723073874
>eating animals in a faction that loves nature

>>723075173
Warlords Battle cry clone with Homm3 units and heroes would work pretty well tho

>>723075518
should be until the next battle otherwise its pointless

>>723061769
>locks you into a very specific build
>you might not even get the 5th skill you need
wonder if it's even worth it really

>>723075701
Alvar is split into 3 factions. No wonder since they were the main race on jadame.

>>723064202
what in unholy fuck is this? new sorpigal with the MM8 UI and MM7 characters?

>>723075957
https://www.celestialheavens.com/forum/topic/16657

>>723075957
No, it's new Sorpigal with the MM7 characters and UI. The MM8 UI has the skull in top right and the resistances doll in upper left.

>>723076181
nah mm7 didnt have the skull or the "guy" its from 8

AHHHHHHH fighting mirror image of yourself is soooooooo hard!

>>723076368
does the enemy hero not use spells?

>>723073874
HoMM3 has this nice storybook look to it but it looks extremely dated
I don't have an issue with the new game's looks other than the UI being obtuse, and that's primarily because it's a PC UI. If it was a "mobile UI" it would have tons of sub-windows tucked away that pop out at a tap. The PC UI just needs tooltips and hotkeys and it'll be fine
>>723075234
Dark Messiah was very enjoyable, too bad it's kind of a pain to get running on a modern PC
>>723075445
I spent over 100 hours on Clash of Heroes. Jezebeth-chan...

>>723074357
I want hotkeys for: end turn, build menu, heroic strike, spellbook, and F-keys for my castles. Tab works well for everything else
>>723074369
>>723074406
You have to select the unit then right click the portrait bubble. For enemy units you can just right click them directly. It's jank

>>723076412
he blasted me with few damaging spells

how do you deal with these FAGGOTS?

>>723064990
>>723065334
>>723072480
>>723073423
>>723075957
Thanks guys, I'll play 6, through MM8 gog version with merge patch for now, it just werks. Restarted a couple of times, read the manual, figured skills and characters, should be smooth sailing for now.
There are so many fucking monsters, no wonder in Heroes you get to command whole armies.
Portraits are my fav part so far.

>>723076646
easy battle :)

>>723076659
Can you hire npcs?

>>723076682
haha easy battle
>suicides half you're army
nothing personnel kid

>>723058483
Sir Mullich is surely just a photo

>>723064774
Recommending Might and Magic IX to any. M&m newcomer it's like recommending Boku no Pico to an anime noob. Except it's not even funny. Kys.

>>723076703
Yes, I think I found a playable party character NPC in a guild and a bunch of NPCs like Banker, Cartographer etc that take % for the hire.

>>723076808
never played m&m before, why?