Thread 723033073

Battlefield 2042 has the same terrible map design as bf4, the constant forcing of infantry to run long distances from cap to cap without cover, dooming them to be raped by vehicle players or snipers whenever they dare leave a capture point. The only difference between the two being the absence of an operation metro rip off in 2042 so its shitty map design became too glaringly apparent to ignore and caused a deserved sperg out among the player base that couldn't retreat to a 24/7 meat grinder map as they could in Battlefield 4.

BF4 was saved by the fact it had operation locker so players could stay in an infantry only map all day and effectively dodge all the other maps, and the fact it was unplayable for the first 12 months on PC so by the time most people returned some DLC maps had been released, so the horrendous launch map lineup could be more easily ignored and people could cope by playing operation metro and operation locker 24/7 servers, a coping mechanism bf2042 lacked.

Although Bf2042 did have a potential coping mechanism to dodge the trash launch maps, in the form of the ported over bad company 2 and 3 maps in portal mode, DICE mistakenly turned portal mode XP earning off and killed this potential coping mechanism in the first week.

>>723033073 (OP)
BF2 was the peak.
>BF VIETNAM
>BF 1942
Everything that came after was shite and demanded expensive NVIDIA that I couldn't afford at the time so became upplayable with extra garbage heaped on top.
You cannot improve on perfection.
It's like MS Word 2017 with all the extra crap a simple text editor doesn't need,
>now comes with extra wombats and wine glasses
just to justify the $8000 price tag + $400 a month ass raping charge.

>>723033073 (OP)
They have forgotten that games are supposed to be fun and not a fucking second job.

>>723033481
BF2 is literally unplayable by today's standard the shooting is beyond garbage. What are you talking about? You haven't played 2 in 15 years or more I bet.

>>723033619
I unlocked everything then stopped play children's games.
The fun went out of it.
I see no reason to go back now.
>unplayable
It was true gaming back in the day.
This laggy high latency nonsense has killed gaming.
>microtranvestites
No think you.
The entire industry has crapped its own pants.
It's dead.
It lost people like me and my money.
It's downhill all the way now.

battlefield is dead not buying

>>723033842
*stopped playing

>>723033619
the jet boomers are the biggest problem that makes bf2 unplayable
a new player literally cannot and never will be able compete with a guy thats been playing jets nonstop and has never willingly set foot on land since 2006

>>723033073 (OP)
>Battlefield 2042 has the same terrible map design as bf4,
both have better maps than codfield 6

Battlefield 4 is good
OP is gay

>>723035369
battlefield 3 is better
>>723035257
battlefield 4s maps are complete dogshit, if siege of gibralter were in bf4 people would be calling it battlefield 4s best map by far

>>723035497
Holy gay

>>723036323
cope all you want you know its true
bf4s maps are almost all dogshit especially the launch maps

>>723033073 (OP)
you're insane, bf4 had great maps with a wide variety of locations, the best in the series by far

bf3 was just full of desert and some east europe maps

bf6 looks like more of bf3, with some american maps this time

>>723036882
>bf4s maps are almost all dogshit especially the launch maps
whats wrong with siege of shanghai?

>>723037642
the fact that half the server leaves when the tower falls down
>>723037473
>bf4 had great maps
no it didn't
>with a wide variety of locations
which all looked ugly
>bf3 was just full of desert and some east europe maps
and they were all much better than bf4s
the average bf3 map is so much better than the average bf4 map its ridiculous

All battlefields have shit map design. It has shit game design as well.
How the fuck are you gonna have a low ttk game when the map gets flattened with no cover LMAO

>>723038296
>All battlefields have shit map design.
some more than others

>>723033073 (OP)
Vehicle niggers deserve genital mutilation

>>723033073 (OP)
This problem is way worse on pc because half of the servers have instant vehicle respawns. Respawn timers should be longer than they are in base game to force vehicle abusers to think more carefully about how they play.

>>723033481
>2142
>shite
the only thing thats shite here is your opinion

>>723042494
no one played 2142

>>723044605
>le zoomzoom doesnt know older games
typical

>>723033073 (OP)
I don't understand this idolization of 4 that began in recent years either
Back when it came out I found it to be worse than 3 in every way, the only cool thing about it was the map with building

>>723033073 (OP)
Thank you for describing why BF4 maps are good.

>>723033073 (OP)
>BF4 was saved by the fact it had operation locker
the same could be said about bf3 with op metro and grand bazaar. the truth is that vietnam, 2 and bc2 are the only games with good maps, and bc2 only worked because it changed a lot of the core gameplay

4 has the AEK which makes all infantry fights into "getting spotted by the AEK nigger and vaporized instantly without even being able to retaliate", regardless of map

>>723037473
>some east europe maps
which ones?
there is only a french map and the rest are arabic/middle eastern

>>723033073 (OP)
BF4 kicks fucking ass and they should've literally just re-released it with slightly better graphics.

>>723045936
>>723045379
+Operation Riverside
Kaiser Railroad
Sabalan Pipeline
Nebadan Flats

>>723046096
>Kaiser Railroad
iran
>Sabalan Pipeline
iran
>Nebadan Flats
iran
none of these are eastern europe

I don't know where the canon locations are set, but they look believable Eastern European besides maybe Nebadan Flats.

>>723033073 (OP)
I had like 600-800+ hours in it, so I have to disagree with anyone calling it bad. Actually that number may be astronomically higher but I do not care to admit the real figures, it's likely way more and I cannot say the number because I'm not proud of it. All I can say is that one year after release and from that point on I never stopped playing it.

Whatever BF4 did just worked for me and it clicked. I preferred it over BF1, BFV, and I didn't play 2042 because I don't think it looked like the same game judging from the gameplay. Was nowhere near as polished. I don't believe I saw anything in the maps that immediately reminded me of it being the game I wanted to play. If 2042 was BF4 I would have been first in line, but it wasn't.

>>723045859
>the same could be said about bf3 with op metro and grand bazaar.
and damavand peak, along with having a functioning rush mode which made all the other maps fun too. BF4s maps were so bad it killed rush as a game mode altogether

>>723037936
zavod 311 and hainan resort better than all bf3 maps

>>723045859
>>723046868
and nashar canals, and that other french map that was also fun on rush
the tehran map was also pretty fun on rush
hell all of battlefield 3s launch maps were pretty fun on rush aside from 64 player metro rush
>>723046975
zavod is an 7/10
hainan is a 6/10
they seem great because they only have to compete with bf4s garbage map line up. If they were in bf3 they'd be considered mediocre

Say thank you

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/qARzQy

bf4 launch maps
>dawnbreaker
fun infantry map
>flood zone
fun infantry map (but easily campable)
>golmud railway
shit, fun vehicle map but the other two thirds of the team not in a tank or jet are just fodder on an empty field
>hainan resort
kino naval map
>lancang dam
kino naval map
>operation locker
boring grindfest
>paracel storm
kino naval map
>rogue transmission
abysmal dogshit
>siege of shanghai
kino naval map
>zavod 311
kino tank + infantry map
8/10 maps are playable, 6 are pretty good

bf6 launch maps
>empire state
abysmal meatgrinder map
>iberian offensive
okay infantry map
>liberation peak
sniper central, vehicles barely matter
>manhattan bridge
abysmal meatgrinder map
>mirak valley
fine, trenches are cool. but just fine
>new sobek city
abysmal dogshit, literally unfinished
>operation firestorm
best map but it's a remake of a 14 year old map and is worse than the previous two incarnations
>saints quarter
boring meatgrinder map
>siege of cairo
just fine. more meatgrindery than previous games but not as bad as the infantry only maps
3/10 maps are playable, maybe 2 are good, and if you actually want the full battlefield experience A SINGLE MAP IN THE GAME is actually any good for it and it's a remake
there is no comparison. this is ignoring DLC maps, the majority of which in 4 are fantastic
6 has the worst launch maps of any bf game and it's no contest

I agree with you, I was super hyped about it after bf3 and ended up playing like 30h before dropping it, I didn't even get the dlc maps and I paid the battle pass or whatever its name was at launch.
The servers worked terribly, the movement was trash, and more than anything, the maps were absolute dogshit, the game didn't have single good one, it's as if the entire map designer team left and the interns did them.
Dropped the series right there and haven't played a battlefield since. Looks like I didn't miss much since they apparently only got worse.

>>723035257
>>723046817
>>723047341
i forgot to say in the OP when i say bf4s and 2042s maps are shit its in comparison to battlefied 3, not 6

Bf3s maps just looked so good, especially the DLC maps
Bf4 looks like shit next to it unironically

>>723033073 (OP)
Yeah the stock maps in BF4 are fucking garbage. The worst part is that I live in a low-pop region and all the good maps being paid DLC meant that literally nobody played them.
Jesus Christ, Shanghai was actual cancer dominated purely by helifags who I had never once seen on the ground in my entire time playing.

>>723034220
thats pretty much every battlefield game with jets since the only thing that counters a good jet pilot is another good jet pilot and nothing else.

Man if you're posting about these BF3 maps being pretty at least just stick to the ones that aren't grey and brown middle eastern shitholes.

I heckin love BF3

Few of these are over 4mb...

>>723033073 (OP)
you're supposed to use vehicles to move infantry from point to point
you're also supposed to have a commander to air drop transports and coordinate the team

>>723051094
Inaccurate pos main gun on this doodoo.

>>723051170
I was an absolute menace with it. It's not hitscan, you have to lead a bit, but the constant chip damage on air means no repair, and combined with smoke and terrain, you cant lose to a jet. The anti-infantry dmg was nerfed as it would be super OP if it was an infantry shredder.

>>723051302
Its so much worse than the US one. Feels like it's inaccurate, no matter if you're firing in bursts or just dumping everything until cooldoown.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2812836570

i can't remember a bad map from bf4
golmud railway was one of my favorites

>>723045936
caspian border
armored shield
there's a tank centric map in the last set of dlc or maybe I'm thinking of bf4
and some scandanavian levels with forests and ice but I forget what it's called, might as well be ukraine or russia

kaisar railroad, damavand peak and scrapmetal could pass as eastern europe

there just needs to be a limit on middle eastern/desert levels to 5, we already had 20 years of desert themed shit because of iraq

so glad we got 100x more powerful gpus today
now games can look AND run worse
god bless ai upscaling

>>723033073 (OP)
you want call of duty

>>723033073 (OP)
>portal mode XP earning
we don't need "xp" in battlefield
>>723033481
>BF2
we don't need "persistent outside of match tracking weapon unlock garbage for zoomers paying good boy fees to rent a ranked server" in battlefield

its dead

>>723052848
Not according to this. This is off hours.

>>723052972
HOLY SHIT ITS ALIVE and filled with bots

>>723052213
>caspian border
not eastern europe
>armored shield
chechnya
>there's a tank centric map in the last set of dlc
iran, iran and iran
>and some scandanavian levels with forests and ice but I forget what it's called
damavand peak is iran, death valley is iran and albors mountains is iran

Can't easily find Armored Shield map pics. I'll end this here.

>>723033619
BF2 has always been unplayable because of jets. Because of the lack of spawnable infantry anti air launchers. The only good bf2 maps were the ones without jets. Like karkand and ghost town on the special forces dlc.

The only somewhat good bf2 map I played with jets, was a custom map; that segregated infantry, ground vehicles and jets, mostly away from each other. They all existed on the map but barely interacted with each other, unless crossing zones or going into each other's zones. I forgot the name of the map, but it was america vs the mecs, had cap points in clustered urban areas that were specially designed for infantry and guntrucks like humvees to fight in. Jets and tanks could support from the outside but couldn't really kill inside the core part of the zone. There were several of these zones around the map. Tanks and apcs would battle inbetween these zones. And jets would battle in out in the sky above. There was one zone that was in the middle with big closed off structures, too large for infantry, but too sheltered for jets to bomb you consistently. Sight lines were long and narrow. Perfect for tank battles. Few people played it because it was a custom map on an unranked server.

>>723052972
spoofed players, only that top american server and 1 of those german servers is full of real players
admins competing with spoofed player counts killed bf3 because all returning players would end up in 50 different spoofed player servers instead of the real ones

>>723051152
>you're supposed to use vehicles to move infantry from point to point
you're also supposed to have a commander to air drop transports and coordinate the team
wow its just like bf2042

>>723045859
take operation metro and grand bazaar out of bf3 and people can still play rush and have fun on the other maps
take operation locker out of bf4 and you have bf2042

>>723052041
There are no battlefield 4 maps I look at and think “wow I’d like to play that again”
they’re all pretty bland

>>723033842
>I see no reason to go back now.
then it must not be a good game, if it was truly a good game you would go back and continue playing it retard