Thread 723036175

Put the controller down and read a fucking book you pathetic slime

>>723036175 (OP)
I understand this side of the argument that "games make you dumb" but also the majority of people wouldn't get anything out of reading a book, simply because the average IQ is so low. Having that said, he's not being very smart himself trying to claim that one form of entertainment is superior to another. The reality is that games are much more of a higher stimulant than a book ever will be, but a book can offer insights that games rarely do. Doesn't mean that one is "better" than the other, it just means that they're different. People always have to pick a side and die on a hill when really it's just a dumb way of identifying yourself with a concept that has nothing to do with you, really.

Besides, if he had ingested anything from his books he would understand this himself and probably find a more efficient way of converting people to read books than trying to be an asshat. Had he been smart, he would have been kind to people who appreciated Trevor and his acting through that character and said "listen, trevor is a funny character and all but there are so many characters you can find in books who are equally interesting, and you'll end up learning a thing or two."

>>723036678
>"listen, trevor is a funny character and all but there are so many characters you can find in books who are equally interesting, and you'll end up learning a thing or two."
just as obnoxious kek
he can just be kind to his fans and enjoy his books in his solitude and stfu

Just finished pic related. AMA..

>>723036806
I was trying to match his tone, and besides I'm spit-balling. I'm saying IF he really wanted to go down that road of 'superiority', he should know that it won't help to do it aggressively. Literally nothing to gain from it other than vilifying the GTA community.

>>723036175 (OP)
>>723036678
>>723036806
>>723036901
>>723036907
I don't know who this is

>IM A LE REAL ACTOR I DONT WANNA BE SEEN AS TREVOR IN EVERYTHING
>only gets gigs to play trevor in everything

>>723036175 (OP)
>read a fucking book
same to you, poser

>>723036175 (OP)
Lowkey I feel bad for him cause he was a rising actor and saw GTA as a chance to make it big, but instead he became a typecast and is forever associated with the character of Trevor Philips. The most ironic part being he isn't even a gamer and never played GTA V.
>>723036678
Yeah I think he has some good things on his mind, but the way he says it just sounds totally obnoxious. He's definitely tired of being seen as Trevor Philips and not Steven Ogg and wanted to be a big acting star instead, but he really has this huge sense of superiority when he speaks his mind.

>>723036175 (OP)
It's funny too, because I think he recommended Dostoyevsky, not exactly the height of literature. Russians were paid by the page, that's why there's so many interludes where Raskolnikov is just wondering around doing jack shit. Really made himself sound like a stupid commie.

>>723036175 (OP)
100 years ago well read men were looked down and told to works instead

When he dies, you just know that all the headlines will read "GTA star and voice of the iconic Trevor Phillips has passed away". It's his legacy whether he likes it or not.

Recommend me a vidya for this feel.

>>723036678
>simply because the average IQ is so low.
>Having that said
Oh the pottery.

>>723037930
>Lowkey I feel bad for him cause he was a rising actor and saw GTA as a chance to make it big, but instead he became a typecast and is forever associated with the character of Trevor Philips.
He's typecast because he's a shitty one dimensional actor, and has an incredibly shitty attitude. Nobody likes to work with an asshole who's going to shit talk your production after the fact, not even money grubbing hollywood kikes

>>723038991
Big Legend of Zelda fan I see

>>723038878
fucking lmao

>>723036175 (OP)
book reader here

its just another form of entertainment that can be just as slop as anything else

>>723036175 (OP)
Ok

Re-reading picrel and wishing we had a period drama vidya set in the same setting.

>>723038991
Camus is a fagoo

>>723037930
>but instead he became a typecast
his own fault for not embracing it like all action stars throughout the 80s and 90s did.

>>723036175 (OP)
Sure thing trevor

>>723038269
All the so-called great literally works are trash. Real men study physics, biology, mathematics, technology, etc.

>>723039747
He got more pussy than you althoughbeit

>>723036901
hows it feel to finish peak fiction? and are you going to read the sequels?

>>723038878
I'd read that article

>>723037930
Lots of actors become typecasted for years and then go on do other things after some time. Like Gary Oldman.

A book? What do you want a book for? To read?
There ain't nothing you can get from a book, you can't get from a tv faster.

>>723036175 (OP)
vidya is a poorfag hobby

>>723036901
Based Gene Wolfe enjoyer

>>723038269
>Russians were paid by the page, that's why there's so many interludes
That doesn't say anything about its quality, brainlet. A lot of great works were made out of convenience or for the sake of quota or commission, the reasoning behind it doesn't exclude it from being a masterpiece.

>>723036175 (OP)
Why would i listen to someone that don't even know Z80 assembly?

>>723040172
Unironically, you are correct.

>>723036175 (OP)
>E-celeb trash should be banned

>>723040172
I myself am extremely poor but I know a rich guy (has rich parents and they live up on a hill in a 3 story mansion) and all this fucker does is play video games all day.

>>723036175 (OP)
If you insist trev, if you insist

Postan a /v/ classic
https://youtu.be/GlKL_EpnSp8?si=cN68GJo5H0Pn_BoO

Playing Crpgs trannied me to be able to read books and I'm not even joking. There was a recent article on the atlantic about how students who major in literature are not able to read books from start to finish, so I have suppressed many of those people already.

>>723040507
This is a beautiful song.

>>723036678
There's no way this stupid fuck reads books at all and why every single one of his tv show roles is playing as a nitwit psycho retard.

he isn't high IQ enough to get better roles

>>723036175 (OP)
Dude only gets slop roles. He literally humiliated himself by being in one of the V/H/S films for scraps, where his character had to get destroyed by a bunch of niggers and he ended up in a cage. Embarrassing actor. I'm glad people will associate him with what he hates.

>>723039690
Dune 1 = God Emperor > Messiah >>> Children = Chapterhouse > Heretics

>>723036678
>>723036678
Iq doesn't relate to intelligence

>>723040732
Holy shit you actually got it right.

>>723038878
lmao
someone should tell him this during a interview when he rants about not being a cartoon

>>723040507
NEET anthem

>>723036175 (OP)
Books are a waste of time unless they're non-fiction training books that teach you something. For non-fiction you might as well just watch a movie adaption and save yourself the time. Books are the ultimate pseud cope.

>>723041456
>Books are the ultimate pseud cope.
He says, coping.

>>723041456
whoa is that a andrew tate hustlers university alpha male? how many lamborghinis do you have

>>723041456
TRVTHNUKE

>>723036175 (OP)
Books and videogames are the only places I can go for good fantasy stories

>>723041456
What would it be like if you hadn’t eaten breakfast this morning

>>723041456
This.

>>723036175 (OP)
Oh hey, loved you in GTA! Have you done any other video games?

>all he says is that as an actor he's not interested in games and asking him to play a beloved game like GTAV is like asking the average gamer to read Dostoesvsky
>this makes gamers shit and pass their pants
I think I've read maybe a handful of books since leaving high school, but come on anons, surely you're not going to get ragebaited, right?

>>723039974
>hows it feel to finish peak fiction?
I feel elevated. It is seriously that good.
>and are you going to read the sequels?
100%

>>723042428
>disingenuous faggot
typical

the issue is he accepts money to attend gaming conventions and GTA V meetups and then whines like a faggot when people come up and talk to him about the game when he can very clearly not accept money and not attend.

He also accepts money on cameo from requests asking to do GTA V quotes and then instead of just making the cameo and delivering he goes on a 10 minute rant and still uploads it to the customer.

>>723036678
there certainly needs to be more educational media and science toys like there used to be in the 90's and 00's.

Who tf even is this dude and why should I care

>>723036678
Well put. Truly the apples and oranges comparison, it's why when games decide to rely heavily upon the story and plot that I roll my eyes. There is no way a game can stand up to books in the way of narrative. "The name of the game is in the game" a wise man once said, even Carmack understood that.
Ogg is weird in the fact that almost every other celeb of his stature and above seem to be able to cope with it. I mean Harrison Ford must have gotten/still gets everyone and their mom coming up to him expecting Han or Indy or something and he seems to be over it. You're telling me that he had so many people come up to him that he resents the fame, doesnt make any sense to me. Honestly the fact that he wanted the mo-cap and design of the character so close to what he looks like makes it mostly his own fault. To be fair though there aren't many other performances like his in video games so it almost has to recognizable.

>>723042613
Happy you enjoyed the book anon once you read Wolfe its hard to go back to reading other stuff for while. Like the man really was on another level when compared to his peers and leagues above the shit that gets called writing today.

>>723036175 (OP)
>experience makes you smarter not reading
>reading makes your smarter not watching
>watching makes you smarter not playing
dum dum.

I'm not a /lit/ dude, but I read shit all the time (because manga got boring)
But I still don't understand how people listen to audiobooks, is there some trick or am I just too low IQ?

>>723036678
There's a lot to learn from any media, but something like GTA is purely recreational activity I'd say. It's the same as reading Isekai ranobe slop.

>>723046628
Listen while you read.

>>723046628
I listened to a lot of audiobooks and it is fine for simpler stuff where you don't need to reread lines or paragraphs, or go back a few pages/chapters to reread. So if you like brandonian mormonian sandersonian it's fine, if you read something challenging you're better off reading with the eyes. I assume the people you're talking about read the former

>>723036901
Hey nice, I finished Claw a while ago and forgot all about the series. Time to pick it back up.

>>723036175 (OP)

I had plans on it. First, though, I'm gonna light me a nice scented candle, jack off to so some thick latinas, then prob

>>723036175 (OP)
>He doesn't read his books through Vidya.

>>723036175 (OP)
read this
*unzips dick*

>>723036175 (OP)
i've been an avid reader for about 12 years now and i've gamed my entire life. I can assure you all that reading has jack shit to do with intellect and the Trevor actor is just being a fag. i unironically believe that video games have more to offer you by teaching you critical thinking and training you to make quick calculated decisions especially if you play games against other highly skilled players in a competitive setting.

The shittiest thing about books is that they require a lot of time to read and process in your mind if you actually want to retain the information you've learned, if you don't than you just forget the entire book you've read in a few days unless it was a really good book, which is rare.

>>723046947
I guess you're right, listening to more casual stuff would probably negate my main problems (that are remembering names mentioned and skipping a bit due to diverted attention)
I'll try casual stuff.

>>723047248
Rereads are also fine, even for harders stuff

>>723037930
Rising? The guy was acting already for nearly 20 years by the time gta5 came out, and he always played basically the same character, some kind of complete asshole.

>>723036175 (OP)
Get an acting role that isn't just "Trevor".

>>723036175 (OP)
It's always non-book readers that say this. Anyone who says this is guaranteed to be a poser trying to appear smart.

>>723036175 (OP)
"Read books" is an overrated meme spouted by people who just learned to read.
I've read books my entire life but in my experience there are countless books that's as much of a terribly written time-wasting slop as AAA goyslop video games, and vague recommendation of "just read books" is a terrible advise.
There are good books sure but they haven't helped my life outside of it being entertaining, it's no different from movies, anime or video games, only thing it does is make you feel better for being able to read words.

He's jewish

>Crime and Punishment was fine, but I think Dostoevsky’s best work, without question is Notes from Underground
How would he have responded?

Interviewers should just ask him book questions from now on

>>723036678
>"games make you dumb"
>play crusader kings
>see stuff like the investiture controversy or the cadaver synod
>see they were real things
>look them up, read about them

Crusader Kings made me more interested in history

Setting aside how difficult it is to place literary value on any one piece of media to begin with, good characters and stories can come from any medium. Just because books are literary, and thus more likely to be able to directly inform someone of what a character is thinking, doesn't mean it's inherently better or worse than anything else.

>>723036175 (OP)
Did being known for Trevor really mindbreak him that badly?

I can't read books because I have tinnitus so loud that not having some external sound in my ears makes it impossible to concentrate on anything

>>723036175 (OP)
I pity him, GTA V is/was the best selling game for a time and will have a place in history and Steven Og had a roll in it. Yet he squanders it cause he doesn't want to be known for just Trevor. Unfortunately, no matter how many books we read, you don't get to choose how others remember you or your place in history; none of us do.

>>723039974
>>723036901
whats it about generally? I too am interested in peak fiction.

>>723036901
How does that compare to these other epics I finished this year?
- Dune (stopped where son began at Chapterhouse)
- The Stand
- Hobbit+LotR

I was planning on getting into Wheel of Time or your pic next. Thoughts?

>>723040172
except all every millennial billionaire wants to do to relax is play video games

>>723036175 (OP)
Sitting around reading books all day is what stupid people think smart people do.

i used to read a novel a week, sometimes 2, back in highschool. now i listen to audio books while i play games.

>>723049364
You are wrong. All the best movies are adaptations of books because they are acknowledging the written text of it is superior to anything they alone could come up with or create in isolation. They are taking the superior form and adding photography and music to it because thats all they have to contribute, they know the written form is the distilled apex of story.

>>723036901
I lost interest when the MC randomly fell in love with a dumb evil whore, and I sensed it was going to be a recurring theme.

>>723049526
I understand why he felt like that but in reality he's very lucky. He'll pretty much be immortalized and will never be forgotten while many actors will try three times harder than him yet they won't ever be remembered in any capacity, shape or form, especially in this slop era where Netflix can shit out whatever garbage constantly and entertainment become completely disposable daily garbage.

>>723039887
>althoughbeit

>>723041926
nice try loser, I DID eat breakfast this morning. FAGGOT.

>>723049016
It's an enlightening experience to read about what imperialism was actually like after putting so many hours into Vicky.

>>723036175 (OP)
Is that the cartoon Trevor from GTA V?

>>723042826
I miss the days of educational documentaries (ranging from stuff on the animal kingdom, history to math and physics) that were all over the place during that era. Between that and edutainment games that earnestly tried to teach multiple subjects was a massive boon to my education and why I'm getting a doctorate right now.

>>723039881
True, but books from antiquity and the medieval period are worth their weight in gold to this day. The problem with a lot of modern writers (of the last 200 or so years) is that they really speak in terms of their contemporary period, whereas ancient and medieval authors, while speaking of their current age, spoke of things that were timeless and in timeless ways. Doystoyevsky and Tolkein aren't as great as people make them out to be, but the Illiad, the Odyssey and the philosophical works of Aristotle, Plato and the other intellectual descendants of Socrates are the very heartbeat of Western Christian civilization. That being said, math, engineering and the hard/soft sciences will be timeless just by their very subject matter and great materials to learn from and a good reprieve from wordiness for a bit to more focused literature.

>>723039887
>he measures worth by the amount of pussy someone gets
you must look up to baboons

>>723042693
Add to that GTAV not even being that complex of a game to even get into in the first place. It's not like an RTS or a space flight sim where you literally have to do a training course to learn the essentials. It's basically just a free-roam, interactive play that while there's an over-arching narrative, you have control of the finer details.

I can't see why that sort of game is lesser than a book when they accomplish the same thing but in different ways. The boomer mentality of games being toys for kids really outs retarded insecure faggots for what they are: boys LARPing as men.

>>723050317
they are the "heartbeat of western civilization" because it was founded by freemasons and jesuits obsessed with perpetuating greek mysticism not because those works are great or more well written than anything else.

>>723048435
>I've only read the gambler or whatever and all I remember is "jawohl"
I don't care about impressing anyone

This nigga is a cornball and im glad he will be remembered by his least favorite role.

>723049537
A guys memoirs, written from his in-universe perspective. The world is insane, as is the prose. A lot of the fun besides that is in finding out why things happen the way they do, because the narrator himself often does not know, does not want you to know, or writes it in a way easily understood by natives of his world, but hard to get by us.
If you want something more accessible by the author pick up fifth head of cerberus. It is a lot shorter and is a single book, instead of a 4(5) parter that is meant to be read multiple times to really become the 10/10 experience.

That being said I don't subscribe to the fan idea that he lies at any point. He leaves out things, he misdirects, he pushes you into directions, but he does not lie.

>>723049537
A guys memoirs, written from his in-universe perspective. The world is insane, as is the prose. A lot of the fun besides that is in finding out why things happen the way they do, because the narrator himself often does not know, does not want you to know, or writes it in a way easily understood by natives of his world, but hard to get by us.
If you want something more accessible by the author pick up fifth head of cerberus. It is a lot shorter and is a single book, instead of a 4(5) parter that is meant to be read multiple times to really become the 10/10 experience.

That being said I don't subscribe to the fan idea that he lies at any point. He leaves out things, he misdirects, he pushes you into directions, but he does not lie.

>>723042967
>There is no way a game can stand up to books in the way of narrative.
This is such a shallow understanding of storytelling. Books cannot tell a story the same way a game can. It is literally impossible. Video games through their interactivity have a unique way to tell a story that no other medium can truly replicate. Video games are infants compared to books movies etc give them time to catch up.

>>723036901
>AMA
why did you think genre fiction counts as reading

>>723051665
go away, pesky lil nigga. no one cares what you read instead and it's all that you've accumulated is gonna burn down when croak anyway. a hundred self-help or philoslop books obviously couldn't help you realize when your opinion was desirable and when it was not

I haven't read a book in years but I read walls of ragebait here without missing a day

>>723052436
I write the word 'nigger' on all of chans various boards at least 15 times a day

oh shit behind on my quota

nigger
nigger
nigger
nigger

that ought to cover it

>>723036901
Have you played Thief: The Dark Project yet? If not, do you intend to?