Thread 723044386

>another year
>another Citizencon
>another delay
star citizen thread

I remember reading about Mark Hammil joining them in a Game Informer magazine over 10 years ago. What the fuck are they doing?

>>723044386 (OP)
>post yfw you didn't fall for the scam

>>723044669
they mocapped and recorded all the actors lines a decade ago

>>723044386 (OP)
the funny thing is.. even if the multiplayer part works perfectly with good performance, i still would have 0 interest in the pvpve aspect of it, i tried it for like an hour and then refunded. im pretty sure im not the only one and the fact that you need a pretty good pc to run at more than 30 fps means it will always be super niche. atleast it keeps most third worlders away i guess

>>723044774
>atleast it keeps most third worlders away
why don't you want to play with other people from realities different from yours?

how long before chris roberts announces they're starting over with a new engine and needs another 900 million??

>>723044386 (OP)
>20...
2099 release date
See you fags next century.

>>723044774
>Keeps the third worlders away
The game is full of fur fags jelqing to anime
The same people get upset when you talk about real world things like politics or religion

>>723044386 (OP)
G12 when?

>>723044386 (OP)
relevant

>>723044386 (OP)

cry engine was never meant for this project, you'll are playing in a sandbox in scam citizen , nothing works everything glitches , the most basic of things are maybe implemented , there are like what 3 planets ?

this is all by design, roberts will keep this shit in perpetual early access and this way he's basically running a company as CEO and paying employees. maybe in 20 years once he's fucking 60 years old he'd be like
>ah well guys you know what maybe we cant do it yet haha oops sorry
meanwhile bastard raked billions.

books will be written on this shit. i bet my EVERYTHING roberts is just abusing the early access thing , basically glorified kickstarter hoaxes.

remember the sand worms ? lol yeah, fucking bullshit. they are producing concept art.

fuck Roberts and his entire fucking bloodline and all the losers who support that fucking hack. how more obvious do you need it to be ?

you know what retards im making a matrix game, yeah its in perpetual development because "le matrix" its complicated and shiet am i rite gimme money.

fuck you Chris. i will dance on your fucking grave you ugly munchkin man. hope that 10k enterprise slide door cuts your dick in half you, your ancestors will carry the burden of being ashamed by being related to the incel that stole billions, because you cant keep this shit forever.

>>723045082
I don't believe people who still spend money on this are even "gamers" anymore but just "investors" who truly believe that this will be the Next Big Thing.
They are people who think they will be able to trade their virtual ships like you trade gold. Smell like the biggest video game scam.
You know what a man said once : "the higher you climb,the harder the fall". I can't wait to see this game bomb and laugh at people crying for being ruined by it.

this thing still going on? WHY?

>>723046631
whales keep paying

>>723044386 (OP)
so much money put into this and they can't do anything right jfc

>>723046631
almost 900 million, that's why. it's beyond microsoft levels of getting money for doing nothing.

>>723044386 (OP)
How is there a con for a game that doesn't even exist what the fuck

>>723044386 (OP)
I understand why Star Citizen is never coming out, but isn't Squadron 42 the single player version of it? What is stopping that?

>>723046339
>there are like what 3 planets ?
>remember the sand worms ? lol yeah, fucking bullshit. they are producing concept art.
The sand worm boss is in the game, and there are more than 3 planets.

>>723044386 (OP)
I remember in 2012 someone told me they were getting a clan ready for launch next year

>>723048597
I had a friend around 2016 build a branch new computer because it was just about to be finished

>>723044386 (OP)
Lmao I thought they wanted to compete with GTA 6?

post that fucking faggot on his yacht

Honestly one of the best grifts of all time

>>723044386 (OP)
why the FUCK did they nerf Corsair like that!?

>>723047939
Worm 2.0: Electric boogaloo is a much better fight desu.

its kinda annoying that faggots like this completely fucked over crowd source funding

>>723044680
You realize that the anticipation of something is usually better than the actual thing? That's the experience I'm paying for and it's worth every penny.

>>723044386 (OP)
>>723044680
PC bros what the fuck.....

>>723051635
>My fucking sides

>>723046748
>900 million
WHERE DID ALL THE MONEY GO?

>>723044386 (OP)
>Muh dream
>Muh vision
>Muh server streaming
Just release SQ42 you fuckers

Would have loved to play the original concept from 10+ years ago: A 3d remake of the original Wing Commander games.

>>723051635
That's true, that's why i plan to died of thirst before drinking water

Every space game is built with compromises because you cant do everything and get the game out. Star Citizen promised to do everything and the kitchen sink so it's no shock that it's taking forever, the scope is too big. They should have just focused on releasing a barebones game first and then moving to the next one.

>>723047752
no one *really* cares about the singleplayer game, whens the last time a campaign-only fps made headlines? wolfenstein? doom? people talked about those games for like 2 weeks max
the multiplayer is the only thing with any staying power but chris is still chasing his hollywood dream but he cant do film so he does it in video games instead

>>723044680
>mfw not a goddamn cent

>>723044386 (OP)
why don't they just go on yacht vacation?

>>723047939
>sand worm boss
I hope you fight it in a space ship like a Star Fox boss or something, otherwise why the FUCK is there a sand worm boss fight in a spaceship game?

>>723044386 (OP)
Who was the black guy who was a game producer or something who put lot of money in the game. Later he said the whole thing is undo able and he was one of the first ones to call is a scam. He made a simmilar space themed game which was decent.

He was vindicated in the end.

Chris Robert's got away with it. He made his wife who had zero business experience into a ceo

Wouldn't it be funny if they switched to Unreal Engine 5 now?

>>723044669
Chris hired a whole bunch of a list celebrities mark wasnt the only one

>>723055006
>He was vindicated in the end.
Wasn't it that they were both scam artists and he was just pissy Chris Robert's was a way more successful scam artist?

>>723051635
>He unironically buyeted

What I don't get is how they've not been taken down by a class-action suit yet.

>>723055730
this

Star Citizen devs aren't getting paid to make a game. They're getting paid to work on it. If they finish the game, their job is over. Why should they ever release it?

>>723056068
125D chess game

>>723055730
And have they not been audited? Surely a multimillion dollar revenue company with no products would raise eyebrows at some point over the course of selling "promises" for 13 years.

>>723056224
might be paying them off or something

>>723056224
lawyers rarely take stakes in PNGs as collateral

>>723046362
Really? From what I've seen the people who seem the most still invested in the game are the type who would otherwise built their own pilot cockpit at home to play flight simulator. Like people who only play a few games but not for playing games, but simulating an experience and are well-off enough that to them putting five figures into some niche bullshit is just a hobby investment they don't really think about, because if it wasn't something like this, they wouldn't have anything to spend all their extra money on anyway.

has he freed palestine yet?

>>723045902
>hansen walks in
>guy is already sitting

>>723051635
I pray for your sake that this is a troll. YOu didn't actually buy Scam Shitizen, right?

>>723044386 (OP)
Do people really, unironically keep on funding it?

>$900M
>Did not even cast a porn actress
Money wasted

This game made me realize (just from watching luckily) that it is dumb to ever fund an unreleased game, if that means the game will make more money by not releasing. Even if there was ever the intent to release anything in a timely manner, why would they now instead of dragging it out to the bitter end? Not only because of the greed and scam aspect, but even seen as a regular company, releasing the game now means cutting off most of the revenue they do their finances with and they have nothing to replace that with.

>>723056891
Two more years and they will release it!

How many years has it been by now?

>>723051635
Retard. You can just anticipate it WITHOUT giving them money.

I still remember the threads where people here PROUDLY posted their physical citizenship cards they got for backing the kickstarter.
They were spamming the thread with shit like;
>I'M A PROUD STAR CITIZEN
While gloating about how much they paypigged.
It was fucking embarrassing, Wonder how many of those anons have roped.

Does anyone here still have their card? lmao.

>>723057241
I went in for like twenty bucks and don't remember a card.

>>723044386 (OP)
>Hey, am I allowed to give you MORE money?
The absolute state of these fucking people.

>>723056950
Got burned once on a Kickstarter game that looked awesome; at least I only spent $30, but I was so mad, I swore off that jew site

>>723044386 (OP)
>literally one small phrase about SQ42 during the whole show said at the very end
>it's about putting in "le final polish"
>which was exactly what they said last year
>release is """""""allegedly""""""" in 2026
It's officially owari da.

This thing is about to reach $1B and it's not even 1.0

>>723056950
That's called the Patreon Paradox. You get funding to make something but you're incentivized to never finish it because that's how you get your monthly funding.

>>723044950
>different
Anon, he's just a 3rdie who thinks himself higher than his fellow poors.

>>723044774
>unoptimized garbage is now "niche"

>>723047752
Because SC was created and keeps existing solely on a promise of dream fulfilled.
The moment that "dream" becomes real and turns out to be shit SC will run into problems with their disillusioned whales.

>>723055730
Pretty sure there were some lawsuits regarding refunds. Since at some point Chris stopped returning money to disappointed players.

>>723056432
Same thing really, cattle but with better salaries. No point getting upset over it, just wait for some other game to do it in fraction of the time sc "will"

>>723052303
Hookers, cocaine and yachts

>>723052303
This shit is worth about 30k+, one in each of Chris' mansions rooms, few on each of his yachts, the rest in hookers and blow. Based.

>>723059180
Imagine being this catastrophically illiterate AND clueless

>>723053595
Should get the bare bones version just after gta8, then

>>723059671
>30k for that
I wouldn't even pay 50. I don't even know what i'm looking at.

>>723051635
reminds me of bike cuck

>>723044386 (OP)
all WEGs aspire for this level of paypig scammery

>>723044386 (OP)
lol is that scam still going?
I remember a Redditor I knew irl gleefully showing off walking around “his” spaceship to me back in 2012 or whenever.

relevant to whats being discussed

>>723056432
For real what is it with rich people and flight/racing sims? Why don’t they just learn to fly irl? Like unironically it would be less expensive than the shit they do.

>>723059671
>>723060030
…seriously what is it, a scentsy warmer? I’d assume it was ai generated because it doesn’t look like any object that I know about.

>>723056950
It's especially bad for the process of art making itself.
It ruins focus, pressure dynamics and team cohesion if it's done by people lacking certain creative professionalism and extremely high competence as a whole.
And it ruins perception of projects in public, because you pay not for full course meals, but for breadcrumbs mid-baking, or brushes on canvas in place of actual paintings.
Much like running a convoy, if you make a project, there's no place for unneccessary detours or really bad errors on course.

Crowdfunding is a mistake that allows scammers and opportunists to milk chumps, allows the incompetent to be lulled into a trap of overestimating their competence, and allows skilled but ethically lacking devs to cut corners in products.

>>723060723
i used reverse image search and it looks like some kind of coffee maker? It looks impractical as fuck and their dumbass CEO already blew like 15k on a coffee maker for his office.

>>723060608
yesss ia m sober officer!

>>723045330
>talking about real world politics and religion in a space game
are you from twitter or something?

>>723044680
Stop laughing at them. We must be better.

>>723044386 (OP)
QRD on this Criziencon? Any cool shit?

Star Citizen is just a more successful Ashes of Creation

At first I thought the amount of money the developer got was more than enough to make the game they want to make but considering the current budgets for AAA games they either have run out of money by now or are close to it.

>>723046615
you didn't post anything and I still read it in his voice

>>723060651
the same reason people do paintball/airsoft/minatures dumbass
the real thing is even more expensive and comes with tons of strings attached, like where and when you're allowed to fly

Holy shit even destiny 2 (ex-)players have more brains than SCultists.

>>723044386 (OP)
I don't get it, why didn't these developers just market this game as an MMO?

>>723044386 (OP)
pic related, even if the game released in 1.0 with all the stuff they've been promising, so what?

>>723064227
That post misses the critical point that existed from the very start, going so far as to be baked into the highest original backer tier: multi-person crews. Someone will own the ship, sure, but many can be part of what is done with it. What originally had people excited was just crewing a ship with a few friends and going off and doing stuff. No guild involved.

For my part, I just want S42 and might try out persistent if a small group to do it with is apparent for me.

>>723044386 (OP)
journalists really trying

>>723064227
This is what I don't understand, if you have multiplayer game with functionally unrestricted PvP where 'paying more=winning more' you end up with two classes of players. Predators and prey.
And you're always going to be the prey unless you're literally retarded and put all of your life and money into a fucking video game.

>>723056068
they could just relese it and work on updates like every live service/early access game already does
just to end the memes

Did they stop holding it in big convention halls?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n9bXJnkgBQ

>>723052303
Yachts, mansions, hookers

>>723044680
feels good mane

>>723056068
This. It's like cancer research

>>723045082
you dont get it
he NEEDS an engine with AI integration

>>723063054
lol true. I don't think they will be able to get out of their debt

>>723044386 (OP)
>another delay
When was this delay?

I went to school when this shit was announced and now have kids on my own and this shit is still not out wtf

>>723067490
qrd?

>>723067547
Shitlibs fleeing Afghanistan

>>723044680
>>723051635

>>723057957
He's retired because of course he is, the target audience for Star Citizen is (I think fairly consciously at this point) guys too old or out-of-touch to have any idea of what is and isn't possible to make as a game. Like it's basically all 40 year olds, 50 year olds, 60 sometimes... sorry to any 40-somethings in the room with us but if you are at that age you very possibly have a wife and a full-time job and maybe a kid. Your hobbies' main cost on your resources becomes time and not money. Then you hear about Chris making the fucking everything-game, and you're like wow, video games must be further along than I thought if this guy thinks he can pull this off.

Idk. It's a new sort of elderly scam operation, aimed this time at guys who self-conceive as "lifelong geeks" or whatever.

>>723056950
This is why I don't buy anything on early access and never preorder a game

>>723055730
>What I don't get is how they've not been taken down by a class-action suit yet.
Because they can only be sued, if
>A: They are not developing the game
>B: They release the game and promises weren't kept
Thus, why Star Citizen is forever stuck in a "development" stage. Can't be sued for not delivering on promises if the "promises" are in progress.

>>723057957
This retired boomer could just buy a real life fucking boat and actually have a hobby worth having.
But instead he spends his children's inheritance money on PNG's of ships that will never actually be playable.
You know, I am not a religious man but this makes satan seem real.

>>723068029
>the target audience for Star Citizen is (I think fairly consciously at this point) guys too old or out-of-touch to have any idea of what is and isn't possible to make as a game.

The target audience is vulnerable, stupid, weak-minded people. Same kind of people that cults and televangelists target.

>>723055730
>What I don't get is how they've not been taken down by a class-action suit yet.
The store makes it clear, you're not funding the game. You're not actually buying anything. You're not investing either.
You are just donating, it's your choice to give money for no return. Nothing was promised.

>>723068620
>Nothing was promised.
Except, people were promised a game back in 2011. They didn't change the contract until 2018. They are open to law suits, once the game is finished and those contract clauses were not met.

When The Game Is Finished; so never.

>>723068689
>Except, people were promised a game back in 2011
On kickstarter, which makes it clear that promises are nothing more than empty words.
NO REFUNDS.

>>723051635
Holy cope

>>723044680
imagine being a PCkek lmao

>>723069487
Top kek
>shocking your pet dog because it needs to be in the shot for streaming appeal
Absolute subhuman behavior

This has to be the single biggest scam in video game history. What baffles me about it is the cult mentality surrounding it. People are throwing thousands of dollars on a game that doesn't exist and continue to throw money at it even though it's been a decade of nothing but breadcrumbs and empty promises.

>>723044680
Star Citizen isn't a game, it's a philosophy bordering on religion at this point.

>>723044386 (OP)
Scammers gonna scam, it is what it is.

How is this shit even still a thing? How can you just scam thousands of people out of $90 million, have absolutely nothing to show for it, and be able to keep the grift going by spinning bullshit lie after bullshit lie?

>>723069595
It works because it offers basically the ultimate power-trip.
>Give us money and you can curbstomp a bunch of nobodies and ruin their day!
>Even better, you can own land and have literal nobodies working for you like slaves! Isn't that great?
>Just give us money and you can be like a virtual KING!
>Just ignore the feasibility of this!

>>723045330
>Complaining about people not wanting to talk about IRL shit they experience all the time during their escapism
You're a faggot, you have no concept of sensible boundaries. I fucking despise talking about politics while playing video games. I am trying to unwind, not get fucking mad.

>>723069758
>$90 million
almost 900 million

>>723044680
I feel sorry to whoever payed a dime for this game

>>723044680
https://youtu.be/cJsKh7kJImA?si=NQceS0NAMbnVJD29&t=1989

Tortanic gloating whatever, but you can't convince me that this shitton of reaction images isn't in significant part samefagging.

Aside from mocking specific deluded paypigs, most of what gets posted about SC is just being retarded. And all you need do to show it is is poke it in the gentlest manner, not even defend anything, and promptly get dogpiled as a "cultist."

>>723060030
>>723060723
It's a bad coffee machine.
https://youtu.be/mvmRtPGR4C4?t=241

>>723070387
The images used really do look like someone scraping their reaction image folder for more that kinda make sense to post rather than a ton of posters all picking one from their own collection.

>>723057957
>retired
>gave $15,000 to scam citizen
This retard is going to be meeting Jesus soon and the first thing he's going to be asked is why the fuck he gave away all his money to Chris Roberts instead of starving orphans. As grim as grim can be.

>>723060651
I know someone who spent thousands to build an F-18 cockpit in his office to play DCS
Thousands wont even pay for the fuel (fuel you have to pay for) needed to get a pilot's license
A license which will never get you in maybe a prop plane
The cost of an entry level single seater jet is in the high 7 digits and that won't be the same as a fighter

>>723044386 (OP)
i dont understand
after they were already done with their stretch goals they said what they were doing to do, which was the first episode of sq42 in 2015
as in literally ten years ago. you dont think maybe youd have to be a legitimate retard to believe them, do you?

on a serious note, anyone know if that dude redchris something is still active on reddit? he was great, he had hundreds of thousands of words defending this garbage

>>723045082
Holy shit.

>>723044386 (OP)
What did they announce this year? I'm not watching that shit

I bought this game a few years back and couldn't figure out how to do anything in it. Tried to land on a space port or whatever the fuck they call it and couldn't get it to work. Flew down to a planet and the station was nowhere to be found. Figured I was doing something wrong but it turns out the game was just bugged and I had disconnected from the server so nothing was updating or working. No notification that there was a problem or any other indication. Immediately requested a refund and got my money back. I don't know how people can defend this garbage.

>>723052303
They hired a gazillion a-list actors for the spin-off

The sad thing is, with all the gacha slop neo-/v/ consooms we can't even pretend like the /v/ of 2025 is any better than the average Star Citizen "player", they've basically just bought PNGs of ships just like mongoloids here roll for their Twitter Horses or whatever.

>>723071765
Gachafags should be shunned, locked into work camps, and eventually gassed as well.

i unironically think they actually ran out of money
otherwise they woulnt be pushing for monetization shit hard in the recent patches

>>723072429
...they've always done that
and remember that ol' chris said that their funding model allows them to take their money four times further
so, according to the logic of the genius himself, SC has actually received closer to US 3.6 billion.
without the first chapter of SQ42 that was supposed to release ten years ago.

The most insane thing that I don't see anyone commenting on is that the Squadron 42 sales page has been down for years.
First of all, their store is called the "Pledge Store". Imagine walking into a store to do some shopping, and the guy tells you something like, "Wait, we don't sell stuff here, here you make pledges to us, and maybe we'll deliver something to you at some unspecified point in the future". At least you can say that the store owners are honest that they have no intention of actually delivering the things you buy, LOL.
But anyway, about 10 years ago there was an option to ""buy"" Squadron 42 in this store, and it said that you would receive a digital download of the game.
There are people who did that in 2015, and to this day, not only have they been unable to access the game download, but if they try to fucking access the page, they get a 404 error.

>>723072759
>and remember that ol' chris said that their funding model allows them to take their money four times further
Are you referring to the kickstarter phase when he talked about private funding in addition to the pledges?

>>723072429
>otherwise they woulnt be pushing for monetization shit hard in the recent patches
But asking fans for money is exactly their business. If someone in 2011 says, "Give me money and I'll make the game of your dreams", and in 2025 that same person is saying, "Give me money and I'll make the game of your dreams", then you can safely conclude that making the game isn't exactly this person's priority.
In fact, their fundraising this year is the largest in the history of the project.
So we can say that their business of asking for money is being successful. Game development? That doesn't matter much, as long as the core business continues to function.

>>723073021
i dont even really remember at this point, i just remember him talking about this funding model letting them take their money four times further

but at 900 million it doesnt matter. hes either a complete failure or a complete failure X4

>>723044680
Never paid, never will.

>OMG LOOK IT'S A FACESCANNED HOLLYJEW ACTOR
massive red flag if I've ever seen one

Do you guys think Mark Hamill will still be alive when (lol) this releases?

I played it like a year ago and the map is really cool. And they had functional PVE bases. I don't get why they don't just
>spam enemy hideouts and gang variety
>put enemy hideouts in the cities as well so you can earn money without a ship
>just put alien NPCs and ships out in the world
And instead of the enemies spawning in when 1 person accepts the quest, just have them spawn "first come, first serve" style so players can run into each other clearing them. Idk seems like doing that would require you to develop zero new assets and you could fill out the world instead of animating a bunch of animals or something. They could always replace that kind of filler copy-paste content later as long as it was full of something.