Thread 723044786

Now that the dust has settled, who wore it better?

>>723044786 (OP)
Dark Souls, Demons Souls has good atmosphere but almost everything else is inferior.

>>723044786 (OP)
Demon's Souls.

This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I enjoy how Demon's encourages you to cheese bosses. Using the thieves ring on the old hero feels like such a big brain moment even if it trivializes the fight.

I was replaying both recently and noted that NPCs have unique dialogues if you leaving abruptly when they're talking.
I like DeS more.

>>723044786 (OP)
demons souls is more difficult to me

>>723044786 (OP)
Dark souls is better from gameplay aspect.
Demon's is better from all other aspects.

>Dark Souls gameplay is better
>if you don't count the second half of the game
wew

>>723046335
It's not 'the second half'. it's like the last 3rd and there's even some degenerates that enjoy the dukes archives.

>>723045907
dark souls 2 also did this iirc, pretty neat

>>723046335
i dropped dark souls at lost izaleth when I saw the copy pasted taurus demons.

>>723044786 (OP)
Demon's Souls, it's more consistent than Dark Souls even if I think the "DS1 falls apart in the back half" thing is exaggerated

Dark Souls is an asset flip of Deomn's Souls. Sorry, not sorry.

>>723046335
>>723046826
>Valley of Defilement

>>723046992
Great area. There's a difference between an area with a dreadful atmosphere and an area dreadfully designed.

>>723044786 (OP)
Dark Souls is objectively better my heart will always say Demon's Souls

>>723044786 (OP)
Love both but DeS is my favorite.

In terms of level design and progression, King's Field IV is the true proto Dark Souls.
Dark Souls is a KF4 sequal wearing Demon's Souls' skin.

>>723046992
Not a bad level at all. Only part of Demon's Souls I really hate is the last section of Shrine of Storms, the boss runback is fucking brutal

>>723044786 (OP)
Dark Souls 3. It is just Demon's Souls but better.

>>723044786 (OP)
Can't say. They're good for different reasons. Demon's Souls is fucking rough in some areas but it has soul. It also had a different design approach where the levels were meant to punch you in the dick and the bosses were mostly set pieces. Dark Souls started the boss rush mentality and the vague, unfinished story and lore. DeS was just knights and shit, very straight forward. It was also a bit more dickish on the pvp side but overall DaS had more enjoyable pvp.

>>723044786 (OP)
How often does Demon Souls go on sale? I'm thinking of finally buying, but no way am I doing it at full price.

These threads make me sad for the direction From went in post-Dark Souls 1. I miss Demon's, DS1, and their pre-Demon's games. And yes I've played most of them.

>>723050858
i thought DS2 was a decent halfway point between DS1 and DS3. putting aside how mediocre the game was, it still has a lot of that DS1/DeS charm and FS hadn't fully converted to the current formula yet

>>723050729
Just emulate it. The ps3 version has a better artstyle anyway.

>>723044786 (OP)
The real question is which one was more unfinished?

>Demon's Souls
>Bloodborne
>Elden Ring
These are the unironic GOATS that no one will admit. Sekiro is clearly different from the bunch, so it's excused.

>>723044786 (OP)
Dark Souls 1 is the best game ever so that.

>>723045738
The bosses in Demon's Souls were largely made to be more gimmicky. There are exceptions but this is largely the theme of the boss fights. For the most part this changed in every later game including Dark Souls. Eventually it seems they outright removed any gimmicky boss in the later games. Sometimes it can work well but other times it can be total crap like bed of chaos. A big reason I think they likely changed it is because these games encourage you to make different builds an done build might have issues with a boss that others wouldn't. So it was likely easier in their eyes to make most future bosses be based around the rolling mechanic.

>>723052567
>Elden Ring

>>723044960
It's actually a good thing the PS3 version is the only one on PC

>>723046013
how its slower then demon for no reason

>>723050729
>>723050729
how is a game you cant buy on psn thats no longer been in shops for 15 years gonna go on sale you stupid idiot
look on ebay go ahhh nah or I get it stupid asking fucking on godly stupid shit

>>723044786 (OP)
People told me Demon's Souls was the easiest Souls game.... total lie. The bosses are the easiest, that's for sure, but the areas are so fucked up and the bonfires are so far and few between.

>>723059608
Oh it's not bro. You WILL get torched to death by a dragon

>>723052567
>Elden Ring
Elden Dogshit Ring is the worst Souls-ish game FromSoftware made, I went from loving them to hating them because of this casualized abomination open-world slop.

>>723059775
Dark Souls 1 is easier. I made it halfway through DS1 without humanity and people beat it naked too. And anyway Nightreign is their hardest game. General Radahn in SotE was stupid difficult.

Then there are extra hard mods like Convergence and Garden of Eyes if you're a PC player.

>>723045738
I feel like bossfights in DeS is trying to ape old fantasy stories or fairy tales, where there's a lot of David vs Goliath or Jack vs giants kind of thing where the hero have to find weaknesses or special weapon to eliminate the big bad, or use specific methods like making use of Old Hero's blindness. So I don't think you're supposed to feel bad, that's how the game is supposed to be played, by outsmarting your much stronger and bigger enemies.

>>723059879
>Dark Souls 1 is easier
Nope.
>And anyway Nightreign is their hardest game
Nightreign is not Elden Dogshit Ring.
>General Radahn in SotE was stupid difficult
Nope. Elden Dogshit Ring has too much cheese and over-powered tools, all the bosses are a joke.
>Then there are extra hard mods like Convergence and Garden of Eyes if you're a PC player.
Gameplay mods are non-canon and only subhumans waste their time on it.

>>723059972
Wow you're braindead

>>723059891
These souls games uses to take inspiration from team ico games. The DeS bosses feel somewhat similar to shadow of the colossus in ways, many large fights with a weakness to find out and exploit.

>>723060136
Tower of Rauh or whatever from Shadow of the Erdtree really felt like I was stepping in Shadow of the Colossus for a minute

Demon Souls is a better experience overall even though Dark Souls 1 has higher peaks

>>723060672
>tfw your character climbs up a little ledge in Demon's Souls
>Wait a minute they can do that

3-2 has better level design than anything Ds1 outside the Burg and Parish

>>723052567
>Elden Ring

>>723060672
I can always go back to DeS and enjoy but with ds1 I just cba.
It's kinda like NMH and NMH2 for me.

>>723052567
The ones that deal with Old Ones/Outer Gods, the lovecraftian entries

>>723044960
not really though

>>723046864
its an upgrade because the worlds looked a lot cooler than the previous one

after grinding for the 2nd month though I stopped caring and beat it on pc

>>723059608
this the bosses are fun to beat, other than that the worlds arent as fun to go through

>>723052567
>Demon's Souls
>Dark Souls
>Bloodborne

This is the true holy trinity of SoulsBorne

>>723059972
Nightreign is horrendous dogshit you need to hate it more

>>723044786 (OP)
Demons is a Specialist Game what if you gel with it, tis the clear best, while Dark is the best all-rounder of the franchise but unless you either like that exact all-rounder blend or really like the interconnectivity there is likely another game in the series that suits your exact taste more closely at this point.

This dargon single-handedly makes Demon's Souls the hardest Souls game

It's crazy how the npc quality depleted after Dark Souls and you don't get anyone charismatic anymore. I know it's a minimalist bs game but we need more npcs that would stick with us at least. Blooborne was the worst offender at this.

>>723064778
I enjoyed Nightreign a lot more than that boring abomination Elden Dogshit Ring.

>>723044786 (OP)
fromsoft peaked with dark souls trilogy.

>>723044960
for real though
/thread

>>723052567
BASED, you enraged the dark tranny xbawks tourists with this one.

>>723065212
yeah man dark souls npcs thats just ahh demons with the added sun lad

>>723065212
Fromsoft only did one decent npc and that was Ansbach in Elden Ring. The of the rest of them fall in line of one or two lines of dialogue before dying or le I'm going insane hahahaha. They need to learn from other rpgs and learn how to craft npcs better and stay away from any jrpg trash too.

>>723064929
Dargons...