Thread 723058609

how to fix powercreep?

don't do it?

>>723058680
well, thread over

>>723058609 (OP)
keep it simple stupid, i will never forgive ubisoft for what they did with rainbow six siege

>>723058680
"fix" implies it already happened

>>723058735
stop doing it then

>>723058609 (OP)
It is an inevitability when it comes to live service games. You have to come up with something new that your goys will pay for.

>>723058609 (OP)
Dokkan actually held up pretty well between year 3 and 7. The power creep was minimal and all they did was add new teams that more or less were all of the same level (ignore Namekians being forever a joke) but had their own niches they were best at, you just had more viable options to use which is what I call horizontal powercreep.
But then they got to a point where there were too many teams with too much overlap and less and less hype new characters to make, so they had to start doing number power creep again and it's actually insane how numbers that used to be super specific setups to get to are now just the average attack numbers turn 1. Made 99% of units unusable in new content. They increased the numbers so much in fact that we are starting to see units and enemies reach numbers too big for the game to calculate so they just roll down to 0 again.
It's over. You just need to make a new game at this point.

>>723058975
Do people really pay for bible length ability descriptions?
Most of the powercreep I see like OPs pic happens in gacha garbage, where most people just spend their money on whichever girl is wearing the least amount of clothing.

>>723059086
>spend their money
I haven't given any of them a dime.
Here's where OPTC is at with the long ass abilities btw.

>>723059225
And this doesn't include two pages of pvp specific abilities

>>723058609 (OP)
I'm fucking sick of hou yi metafags bitching about the devs letting Will's フィナル スライセオ random crit after the recent patch, as if they haven't been building Jade Dice instakills for the last month.

>>723058680
Congratulations, your players now don't buy any of the new shit that you release.
What now?

>>723059351
Will will get nerfed again lmao
Hou Yi meta never ends babyyy

its impossible to fix because there is literally a financial incentive to have power creep, the people who hate power creep are ultimately drowned out by the millions of people who line up for the latest meta shaping thing

>>723058609 (OP)
I can't believe Nine Souls makes you seethe this hard, good lord. I guess you got filtered really hard and that bothers you

>>723059452
Make the tits bigger

>>723058609 (OP)
Nine Sols

you make it so that endgame can only ever be beaten by the latest character addition that costs 10x more to acquire than anyone else

>>723058609 (OP)
Play better games

>>723060645
all games are like that now

>>723058609 (OP)
League of Legends had this issue really fucking quickly.
The game started with a simple premise.
>Ranged units are less able to handle a 1v1 slugfest but are better in team battles
>Melee units are either quick and squishy or slow and tanky
Then lo and behold we get a fuckload of melee fast tanky units with ranged attacks.
That's totally balanced!

>>723059916
not a bug, but a feature, sadly

>>723060978
>willingly play LOL
lol

>>723061626
Haven't played it in over a decade mate.
Once the powercreep showed up, I ditched it.
No fun when every new character utterly demolishes the existing ones.

sex

>>723060149
And we are back to
>how to fix powercreep?

>>723061661
It's so much worse than it was back then, too. There's a character with 15 different abilities now

>>723059452
Simple. You incentivize the use of new characters through things like a rotation where old characters rotate out and aren't scored or aren't legal to use any more and new characters (that aren't powercrept) rotate in and give more score, more rewards, or are the only legal characters for this "season". Powercreep is a retarded developers solution to not moving new products and it ALWAYS ruins the games it's in.

>>723058735
Balance patches.

>>723062650
>The solution is banning shit that players have bought from being used ingame
Lol, lmao.

>>723058609 (OP)
there's no balance
there will never be balance
it's impossible to have balance

>>723058609 (OP)
To provide a gacha example: FGO
They simply give you upgrade quests for older units to change up & improve their skill set. Now this doesn't really put them into 'the meta' but it prevents them from becoming obsolete as well.

>>723058609 (OP)
Stop playing gatchas.

>>723063892
That might fix older characters becoming obselete, but you still have the problem of your initially simple and/or intuitive system now unrecognizable due to all of the shit everyone can do.
I used the play a gacha and liked it a lot because I could actually look at skills and abilities and calculate the outcome from that alone, but now you need an excel sheet just to even begin calculating damage, and the game has become just throwing your guys in and hoping their bullshit is better than the enemy's bullshit which isn't fun.

>>723063703
Sad

>>723058609 (OP)
>(yeah we sold out to china)
more like they sold out to furfags in that pic

>>723058609 (OP)
Is this the thread?

>>723067325
Yeah