Thread 723071687

How do you feel about him being the main villain for FOUR FUCKING GAMES IN A ROW?

major blemish on the series after City. kinda foreshadowed that Rocksteady was a one-trick pony meme studio.

I blame how popular he became with normies in the pre-gang weed era rather than the devs themselves. I am sue they would have liked to have the penguin or two face as the main villain in a game, but at the time everytime you mentioned batman, all people only cared for Joker. That said I think they did a good job especially in City with Strange and Raz Al Ghoul. Joker might be the main villain but outside of Asylum he can fall in the background very often

other villains are just worse
who would you prefer, a fat man in a suit? a man with an icethrower? a man that likes puzzles?

>>723071687 (OP)
He wasnt a villain in Arkham Knight, he was a hallucination and basically the devil on Batsmans shoulder

>>723071687 (OP)
Isn't he the main villain of the whole franchise?

>>723072296
You know you can oversimplify him as "a clown" and he would come off as the least interesting one in your list, right?

>>723071687 (OP)
It was exhausting after City. Scarecrow and Hush should've been the main villains of Knight.

>>723072535
Hush and Two Faces presence in the game wrapping up after 3 short missions each was fucking retarded

>>723072531
at least he has le wacky personality unlike the others

No one gives a fuck about Harvey you spastics. We need a game where Basil is the main villain.

When are we getting more motioncaptured Joker in a video game? It's been a while.

>>723071687 (OP)
I totally don't care.

>>723071687 (OP)
>>723072430
How they did him in Arkham Knight was a good way to shoehorn him in after the events of City and the way he was used and present made for a better insight of the Batman/Joker relationship and their two psyches than could've been done if he was just an antagonist. They could've easily just gone
>LOL IT WAS CLAYFACE AGAIN YOU GOT JOKERED BATMAN
and taken the lazy route but they didn't

It's the only Batman villain they think that can carry a game.

if batman just raped him in the first game he would be done for

>>723073230
I thought it was implemented amazingly well, especially when you tried to ignore him and he would pop up in really creative places and keep ranting.

And the part where Scarecrow gets spooked by Joker possessed Batman was kino

>>723073354
Name a batman villain other than Joker that can carry their own game.

>>723073653
Raz Al Ghoul

>>723073030
I read somewhere they've decided DC movies and DC vidya are all one canon now. Don't expect anything good until they reboot again.

>>723073653
I think most of them can if done correctly. You could have easily made an entire game out of the side missions they did. Also Scarecrow and Jason were the big bads of Knight.

>>723072604
I straight up dropped the game after seeing what they did with Hush. He had massive build up in city and I don't think I've ever been so disappointed in my life.

>>723073762
The voice actor for Gordon from Arkham Shadow said that they're doing a sequel for Shadow. It was a really good game, even though I think it would have worked better as a non VR game.

>>723073653
DeathStroke game. You assassinate people.

>>723073386
If only Jackie existed in the Arkhamverse.

>>723073828
I was disappointed with Hugo Strange in City. I thought that the final battle would be Strange and Batman fighting both in Batsuits and Strange would study you during the game with the cameras and use half assed versions of the techniques you used.

>>723073961
I get what you mean, but when I first played city I always had the impression he wouldn't be the 'main' villain if that makes sense.
In contrast Hush just had a lot of cool build-up and was genuinely unnerving. I was expecting him to do more Ted Bundy esque shit with Bruce's face but nope.

>>723073719
Can't even spell his name right lol.

>>723071687 (OP)
i only wish they could give us the real joker. you know, like in "The Killing Joke."

>>723073653
Literally whole roster of batman villain
Just go watch the animated batman, we only get joker games because he's the safest villain to make a game on

>>723074570
Alan Moore hates The Killing Joke, he said he was still thinking of The Comedian from Watchmen when he wrote it. Kinda crazy that capeshit is so bad that even Alan Moore's worst work is considered some of the best capeshit out there.

am i the only one here who actually fucking loves the joker and doesnt mind him being the main villain all the time

>>723075229
No, I like him too.

>>723074826
>Literally whole roster of batman villain

You really need to choose your words more carefully...

>>723072296
I want the masketta man

>>723074845
Alan Moore is a contrarian faggot who dislikes anything he makes that gets popular.

It blows my mind how hard they fucked up with Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League. How do you fuck up Arkham game after you've done them 3 times already? Just do a Beyond game. It's almost as if Warner hates money.

>>723072531
clowns have always been interesting what the fuck are you talking about

>>723071687 (OP)
Joker is fucking boring, all of the other major villains are better

Arkham is the only game series I care about.

>>723071687 (OP)
The only memorable parts of Knight were the joker moments and seeing Batman suddenly snap into rage mode. All the scarecrow and red hood shit really shit the bed

>>723074570
The Killing Joke Red Hood shit Barbara shit is canon to Arkham. I don't understand what you're trying to say.

>>723076258
There was no Red Hood in The Killing Joke. You're thinking of The Death in the Family or Under the Red Hood.

>>723076386
That's not what he is saying.

>>723071687 (OP)
I unironically loved Knight and even liked it a tiny bit more than City.
HOWEVER the amount of car scenes were starting to really tire me out and it propably has the worst Riddley "riddles" out of all 3 games.

Still I loved the way they implemented the Joker and how the story/atmosphere unfolds. I usually fucking hate Joker and think he's reddit but the way he randomly popped up was fun and not excessive. People love to clown on the story but it felt more "consistent" than city in my opinion

>>723073762
>I read somewhere
it was when they launched New 52

>>723071687 (OP)
He was already too much by origins

>>723076598
I don't think so. I could have sworn it was something Gunn said but when I went looking to find the quote it was actually the opposite. I probably misread something and have so little contact with DC properties that I never figured it out.

>>723076731
He did say that. I remember reading it too. I wouldn't worry too much about it because Gunn will be gone soon.

The Arkham series is the second best Batman media right after The Animated Series.

>>723076580
Knight still to this day looks incredible. Just like the titan boss fights were fucking stupid in Asylum the Batmobile tank fights are stupid in Knight.

Is it just me or does Knight still feel like one of the only games that is "next-gen". AAA games these days make it look like a technical marvel

>>723076972
Ten year old game looks better than 95% of the AAA slop that releases today, this industry is such dogshit right now

!! TRVTHNVKE ALERT !!
he was amazing in the arkham knight

I'M GOING TO DRINK SEA WATER

>>723076598
And that was what, three reboots ago?

>>723076972
>Knight still to this day looks incredible
Genuine insane how games of that era still look thousand times better than whatever slop AAAs have been spewing out the last 3 years. All that talent just gone

>>723077779
Where did it go?

>>723077138
It's not just you, 4GPT-san, we all think this way, which is why you were able to generate this prompt.

>>723077858
Propably fired and now working for some tech company that pays 10x more with nowhere near the same stress and retarded management breathing down your neck constantly. Most AAA things are outsourced to pajeets anyway

>>723077905
I am more than a robot DIE WILY

>>723077905
its gpt4 not 4gpt you retarded bot
and 4 is obsolote as we already have gpt5
its so fucking funny when a bot calls real people bots

The games are so good that I have purchased the trilogy 3 times now.

>>723078076
the joke is that a bot created for *4* (FOUR) *CHAN* would be funnier if it was called *4*(FOUR)GPT instead of GPT-4 which is just the name of the model itself
hope this helps!

>>723078221
>retard didn't just wait for the epic games free drop

>>723078303
I bought them for PC like 2 years ago and few months ago for Switch.

>>723073653
Arkham City would have been fine without Joker and just focused on Strange and Ras fucking with the city
Arkham Origins would have been fine without the Joker twist and just actually kept the guy hiring assassins as Black Mask or if they're not confident with him being a minor villain, make the mastermind be Bane, Two-Face, or Penguin.

Remember when the cartoons tried to do something new and put Batman in the future with new future enemies? Then his feature film is back to fucking dealing with Joker lmao

>>723077138
>a technical marvel

Actually it's a technical DC.

Batman has the best comics, movies, animated shows and games.

>>723078830
Some bitter little goblin Jew exec must be seething at Bruce Tim or some reason, thats the only reason I can think of why they leave all that money on the ground with Beyond. It would instantly be popular again

>>723073961
Lol Hugo Strange is a doctor, not a gifted man who trained in martial arts, ninjitsu, criminal psychology and forensics. He would have and did get his ass kicked the moment Batman was face to face with him.

>>723076386
>There was no Red Hood in The Killing Joke
Joker WAS Red Hood in The Killing Joke

>>723075736
Bane?

>>723078830
The straight to VHS DCAU films from that era didn't do really well when they had smaller villains in them.

>>723080113
Oh right, I forgot. I was thinking only of Jason. My bad.

Asylum and City are the only two good Batman games. Joker was great in the first game. Joker was almost like a red herring in the second game and him dying was a fitting end. Series should have ended there.
>durr in the third game Joker is a heckin' ghost infection and everyone turns into Joker
fuck off

>>723080326
It was kino, chud

>>723080401
Kill yourself trans freak

>>723080419
You didnt play the game

>>723073653
Mr. Freeze was the main villain of pic related. Joker was just the first boss.

>>723076972
>>723077160
>>723077779
Night/Dark environment are really easy to get right. This is why NFS2015 looks photorealistic, meanwhile its sequel built on the same engine but with day/bright scenes looks utter dogshit.

>>723078830
Then again, the Joker themed gang was kind of established from the start.

>>723073653
Bane

>>723081475
The Bane boss fight in Asylum would have been hundred times better if they didn't have the exact same fight like 3-4 times in the game. Origins Bane fight was so good.

>>723075638
Condiment King is the main antagonist of the next Arkham game and he's treated with the same level of seriousness as Batman's most evil enemies. How do you write him in a way that makes him feel menacing?

Nobody knows what to do with two face all they know about his character is he has two faces

>>723081475
The masked man?

>>723081796
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c_ORJHJXgI

half the plot points in knight were so contrived and pointless and the rest of the side stories are half baked

>the whole arc for the infected jokers ending with them just fucking killing themselves
>also retcon the joker+titan blood from arkham city that was meant to poison and kill civilians and batman (joker literally dies from it without the cure) and change it to a non-lethal joker personality virus with no trace of the titan venom shit
>scarecrow gassing the empty fucking city he threatened to evacuate
>ivy killing herself to help the empty city
>most obvious red hood twist wow they even randomly flashback to joker killing robin i wonder what that could mean

>multiple tank boss fights
>tank stealth fights
>tank chase fights
>the azrael shit they teased in city? lmao AR fights
>the hush shit they teased in city? lmao QTE cutscene
>hey remember when riddler actually gave a bunch of riddles you have to find/solve that references batman lore? lmao racing "riddles"
>deathstroke shows up and wants a rematch of your AO fight. lmao tank boss fight

>>723082206
I don’t think anyone would argue with all that, it’s what happens when you kick your writer from the game thinking you can one up him

Play DC Universe Online!

>>723073230
No, it was fucking retarded. If he had just been a fear toxin hallucination then fine but how is Joker's blood causing people to turn into the Joker as opposed to just killing them? It doesn't make any sense.

>>723071687 (OP)
origins is when it broke me, I was so excited to go around comfy christmas season Gotham fighting black mask and his goons. then it's revealed it's actually da jokers origin story as well and all my excitement immediately turned to frustration.

>>723071687 (OP)
he is batman's arch rival

>>723082206
isn't it weird how beside all these flaws the game still felt fun to play and finish?

>>723083821
not really

>>723083706
Origins is my favorite one.

I went from thinking the Bat Mobile was the coolest shit ever to absolutely hating it by the end of the game.

>>723071687 (OP)
He wasn’t the main villain in City, Hugo Strange and Ra’s Al Ghul drove the main plot, the Joker Titan blood thing was the B-plot. He’s not even alive for Knight, that’s all Scarecrow and Jason Todd.

Bane and Killer Croc show up in all the games too.

>>723075813
That is true, but a more legitimate reason he hates it is because he wrote it as an uncannon elseworld story, yet despite that every dc writer since then decided it was cannon and he hates the fact he was responsible for putting Barbra in a wheelchair.

telltale batman games are garbage
thank you for your attention to this matter

arkham knight makes no sense as a name for red hood and the 4th game, they just wanted to ride the nonsensical arkham naming scheme. they really should have named arkham city, blackgate city instead since most of the people inside were criminals from blackgate anyway and the only arkham inmates were the batman villains. then arkham origins should have been just origins or some other name since it doesn't have anything to do with arkham anyway.

>>723072531
wtf are you talking about? clown phobia is a thing.

>>723084153
I liked them. They were fun.

>>723082206
While I'm fine with the Joker showing up as a fear toxin hallucination, that should have been it. It taking up half the plot with the retarded Joker virus subplot was a massive mistake. And also Jason todd should have been revealed as the red hood much earlier.

>>723078830
Batman Beyond is really good but let's not pretend it was trying to do something new and cool. It was trendy at the time for cartoons to go futuristic and sci fi. hell they even made fucking bugs bunny into a futuristic super hero

>>723083263
Was looking for free games on the Eshop and found it by accident. Actually been addicted to it for some months now

Anyone remember the devs revealing the Arkham Knight in their trailers and confidently declaring it's a brand new character when people already started guessing it's red hood and even had to lie and say "no it's not Jason trust us"?
What was their plan there? They just assumed gamers don't know shit about batman lore?
Even in the game they were banking on it like it's some big dramatic reveal, they dragged it on and on with multiple calls between Batman and Alfred trying to find out who he is and didn't even bother to throw in some red herring like Prometheus, Court of Owls, League of Assassins, or Deathstroke.

>>723085191
Why would they spoil their game?

>>723071687 (OP)
>The Raped

>>723072296
>>723073653
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5kG0ynEDmw

>>723071687 (OP)
>man i just bought the newest mario game and bowser was the bad guy AGAIN? i'm so fucking pissed *hits vape* i'm so fucking pissed dude...

Give Batman & Robin game so I don’t have to see the same fucking villains
>Professor Pyg & the Circus of Strange
>Red Hood (the cool one)
>Flamingo
>Jackanapes
>The TDKR Mutants
>Club of Villains

>>723083864
mine too but the joker part of the story is still ass and unnecessary in it. I do wish they'd workout whatever the issue with origins is so it can get added to the Arkham collections and I can check it out again.

>>723085191
Also it’s just bad storytelling to base your big reveal around a character who had never been in these games before and whose relation to the player comes from shit outside the video games.

I AM LE JONKLER BAYBEE

>>723085702
Comparing yourself to Nintendo storytelling is not the own you think it is, Sefton.

>>723086186
don't know what sefton is. the writer of the game? is that the bit we're doing?

>>723072430
If anything there's four Jokers in that game, five if you include Batman or the Joker in his mind.

>>723083862
arch nemesis

Are contrarians still pretending Knight was bad just because it's the newest one?

>>723083263
>>723085075

Actually, play Something Unlimited.

>>723071687 (OP)
batman has no other villains capable of carrying the story
as we saw in Knight when there was an attempt to make "man with gadgets and cars" into the main villain
only for them to pull out brain only joker instead cause nobody else in that universe can compare

>>723085702
as we all know, every single batman comic/movie/show also had to feature joker as the main villain everytime because they don't have any other villain.

>>723086638
Knight got plenty of deserved bad word of mouth due to ass performance and forced batmobile mission being a fucking chore.

>>723072274
Just a reminder to everyone ITT that we missed out on Hush being the main villain of Arkham Knight, with Scarecrow and Jason Todd filling similar story roles to Strange and Raz in Arkham City, respectively.

>>723071687 (OP)
good

>>723072296
>you can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs, caped crusader!

>>723086638
80% of the game is batmobile sections

>>723075813
Extremely based actually

>>723072296
I'm with you. I only play Batman games for the joker.

>>723087172
>>723086882
>people massively overexaggerating the only bad aspect of the game because it's the only thing they could think of to complain about

>>723074845
>>723075813
Doesn't he only think TKJ is his worst work because he wrote it when he was depressed and felt like some of his juvenile anger created some bad dialogue? It doesn't seem to be due to popularity? Or am I thinking of someone else?

>>723087387
it is not an exaggeration, the game's main mechanic was the batmobile
boss fights were about the batmobile, riddles were batmobile challenges, it was the batmobile game

>>723073653
Scarecrow easily

>>723073653
you could use any of the guys who have their own gangs and it wouldn't make a difference gameplay or storywise. penguin, black mask, falcone, doesn't matter
with the others you'd have to get more creative since they don't have their goons

>>723074845
>alan moore hates x thing
Thats literally his entire personality, no one should give a single fuck about what that guy likes

I still need to even play these games. I wish the collection trilogy package included Knight actually on disc otherwise I would have bought it by now.

>>723073653
imagine a version of arkham knight where darkseid shows up as the true final villain out of nowhere, like k rool in dk bananza
as your final act as batman you have to defend the entire world from his invasion by destroying his fleet with suped up suit and uber powered versions of your normal gadgets, like the final chapter of hl2 where you have the super charged grav gun
a batwing section too
then he shuts the portal forever and bruce wayne vanishes, presumed dead
would have been so fucking peak
they need to lean more into the justice league for future arkham games

>>723081624
Hes treated as a joke trough multiple segments until the final stretch where he starts liquifying people with acid in a desperate bid for attention
Include a sequence before that where the incapacitates Batman by pulling a high calliber handgun on him and shooting him in the cowl, knocking him out for a moment
Final level is a parade of liquified and melted people partially fused to the walls due to the compounds hes using, framed as a horror/gore level

Batman: Ark-M Absolute

>>723078830
Granted, Terry absolutely dunked on "Joker" in ways Bruce never could
The Joker is an absolute joke when hes not dealing with his gay lover whos never going to kill him

>>723087959
That sounds really stupid, but it would have broken the internet in 2015. Especially if it was a twist and not in the marketing material.

>>723073653
Almost all of them. Batman's rogues gallery is THAT good.

>>723087293
based

>>723088332
atto boy! i mean, atta...

Has anyone posted Harley's tight ass yet?

Thread theme
https://youtu.be/gQD2IZItlVk

It is amazing how much he brutally mogs every other comic book character in the history. He stands well above them all, the GOAT

Knight is good but theres really no excusing not having a final boss fight that tests all you've learned in the game. Roided out Joker and Clay face were meh final bosses but they are least existed.

Am I really to believe the "final" boss fight is the raid on GCPD? Even those shitty ass bombs were harder cause of.how small the are is.

Like it's not even fucking hard since you can just have it all be Mental to battle scarecrows toxins.

>>723088332
Big deal GLADoS took over Aperature in 1/10th of an attosecond

This clown isn't so tough after he got raped. Would never happen to Penguin.

>>723071687 (OP)
Bored. They have a billion villains to choose from and they always go for the most low hanging fruit because Joker is popular and they think it will only sell if they put forward a character that every normalfag casual knows.

>>723088123
Joker was an old man and it wasn't even his own body where he was.

>>723073653
Riddler, easily

>>723088614
spidey is better but sadly the writers at marvel hate peter so much it's insane

>>723089726
Imagine having death traps after death traps.

>>723076731
He said there would be tie-in games, but there will still be standalone DC games.

>>723088123
Terry and Beyond are how you handle a legacy passing on shit was perfect and the ending was 10/10

>>723078830
>Beyond game never ever
FUCK

>>723090273
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaP_1dLKkBc

>>723071687 (OP)
I haven't replayed these games in a long time but Aslyum is the only game I actually remember him in it. In City I honestly struggle to remember him, in Knight I remember he's there as a hallucination and then the infected people who turn into Joker style characters.

No game where you as Batman gets to kill villains en masse and then you wake up in a simulator and everyone goes "Well, what did we learn?" only for Batman to hesitate a mere moment with his reply

>>723072296
>a man that likes puzzles?
Arkham Asylum was probably my favorite Batman game, and my favorite part about it were the riddles.
The riddles in the open world sequels were just so shit.
I would like a more linear Batman game with ridler as the main villain.

>>723088614
Its because most of the others are overpowered and need to rely on bullshit superpowers in order to get over. Batman is practically just a regular man outside of his wealth. This makes him stand out as much more of an impressive badass by comparison. Solid Snake had a similar idea going on in the MGS games. He was a clone but he was also simply just a normal man overcoming the odds and facing off against modified freaks that had an unfair advantage over normal men.

>>723090412
WARNER

For me, it's Lord Death Man.

>>723071687 (OP)
KINO KINO KINO of the highest order.

>>723071687 (OP)
Asylum is 16 year old game and it still holds up to this day and is still talked about.

>>723072296
Penguin is awesome.

>>723092214
Nolan North made a really good Penguin.

>>723072296
>>723073653

I'd like to see Batman in a war/post-apocalyptic scenario

Say NATO and the Warsaw Pact start going at it in 1989 and this actually turns to be the big one that ends human civilization as we know and Gotham gets hit with a couple of nukes. How does Batman navigate the following collapse of all social order without compromising his own morals?

>>723093091
North played a good alternate take on the character that seems to be growing more popular these days but it was basically a subversion of classic Pengy's character. I like him better when he's sophisticated and uses big words, so I always read him as Paul WIlliams.