Thread 723083142

One year later I have to say I loved this remake, still thinking back fondly on it. I kind of wanna reinstall

Why would you wanna reinstall a DEmake

>>723083142 (OP)
I'm playing it for the first time and I just got to the hospital. I was having fun with just James exploring the apartments but Maria is fucking annoying.

The entire bloober team should be in prison for making such a shit remake. Don't know why they were allowed to spit on the original by changing the story and entire gameplay

>>723086016
Because look at how positive the reaction has been otherwise. Its really mostly just some fans on /v/ that are bitching. Even that clown from youtube who claims to be a huge fan, Max Derrat, said he loves this demake.

>>723087598
Most of these tards werent even born when the game released, never owned a PS2 and only heard of the game from some video essay.
Posers and their remake slop are a fucking plague.

>>723086016
>your beloved lynchian gameplay, sir

>>723083142 (OP)
it was stuttering even with a 3080 for me and i never went back to it

>>723083335
>>723086016
>>723087598
>>723087858
Do you guys ever just get tired of being mad all the time about everything? Seems like an exhausting life.

>>723088140
I rather have to kill 15 enemies with a shit combat system than 300 with another shit combat system

>>723087858
>Posers and their remake slop are a fucking plague.
Yeah these people are just easily pleased. Its a remake of an iconic game that is at least competently made even if its a complete slap in the face in truth to the original. So because of that these people like it. Don't even need to try that hard to please these people. They also will get angry at anybody going against their opinion. Don't even really need shills these days as much as some on here may think. Consumers love slop.

>>723086016
>>723083335
>>723088218
good mornings sir

>>723088241
I did not want a remake of the game. It should have gotten a proper port that isn't the HD remaster but Konami is too damn greedy to care. And lack of source code is no excuse since Blue Point was able to reverse engineer the MGS games apparently in order to remaster them. SH2 did not need a remake. Especially not one that shits all over the original.

>Make literally the exact same game with updated graphics and cutscenes
>People still complain

>>723083142 (OP)
it was slop but still less slop than f

>>723088241
>Do you guys ever get tired of not liking things I like?
No. Retard.

>>723083142 (OP)
I thought it was pretty good but I dunno if I want to NG+ for either of the two new endings.

>>723083142 (OP)
this game is such a fucking gem that i still cant believe james voice actor didnt get any awards
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/V6R7HyjXdBw

>>723088757
>exact same game
did you even play it?

Eileen shaving

>will you wait for me?
>James... I've always been waiting for you..

https://youtu.be/62Z3Dn4EroU

>>723083142 (OP)
Sorry chuddies but the remake sold more than the original and sure the boomer version might have been released during a time before social media and before gaming was mainstream butttttt uhhhh fuck you, you’re just mad the remake is more popular!

they should've added more weapons for new game pluses

>>723083142 (OP)
It's pretty good. I just wish Maria was dressed as her classic design. I've been meaning to replay it as well though.

>>723089268
>he actually carried Mary to the back of his car and drove with her body to Silent Hill
>she is covered with a blanket that has a floral pattern
>the flowers are forget-me-nots
Disturbingly beautiful

>>723089540
Kino game, I also feel like people don't realize how much shit James went through knowing his beloved wife that he probably thought would live and be with him until he dies, gets a disease that makes her lash out at everyone and visibly fall apart physically and mentally in pain and fear. I feel like despite hating what she's become and how their lives together ended up, he killed her more out of mercy for her than he thinks, he blames himself thinking it was purely him being selfish but I don't think that was ever truly the case.

Who the fuck won over Luke Roberts at the Game Awards?

The fact that /v/ doesn't unanimously hate it despite being a modern remake of an artsy-fartsy game is a testament to how good it is

i like it because the combat actually feels like theres risk

sh2 gameplay is either janky mash x shit this >>723088140 or "press x to win with a gun, don't worry the game will aim for you!"

i ended up cutting my last replay of og sh2 short because i got through the hospital and realized i was just breezing through everything with no risk whatsoever and it just sucked out all of the tension for me

I wstill love aspects of the originals, but they are basically movie-game tier

>>723083142 (OP)
>>723088241
>>723088624
Woke DEImake dogshit

>>723090434
Poltard fatigue

>>723088218
ue stutter has almost nothing to do with your gpu, it's the cpu
>>723088305
>filtered by prison

>>723088140
the atmosphere is pure soul

the demake makes the place look like a theme park expo

>>723089127
kek at your dedication to these posts

>>723090486
retard

>>723087598
same retards were positive about the Demon souls remake. They dont give 2 shits about the games quality itself. They just want to say they are part of the popular IP.

I prefer the remake over the original, I also prefer the new Metal Gear Solid Delta Snake Eater over the original. Ugh, I know, I know haha it's just I kinda prefer them. Yeah hahaaha like the thing is I'm just not gonna bother with the originals, like uh, yeah Im just HAHAHHAHA im just not gonna play the originals and stick to the remasters. I'm not getting vaxxed. I'm not voting. I'm not playing the originals.

>>723088140
ah yes the much superior horror gameplay

>>723088757
the character redesigns are ugly and make most of em look like humanoid gremlins and obese to boot. It also ruins the atmosphere.

>>723090868
Its a scripted moment. Plenty of ways to make it look bad on purpose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uwCcF0iI0c

>>723090868
>Purposely playing through the scripted sequence like a retard
lol

>>723090868
i love you you inadvertently proved the point you were trying top oppose. for example in the webm you posted we see that you actually have to aim your gun and theres always a chance of missing in tense action segments, which ads way more tension than just pressing x to win in the original. we also see that enemies can be more aggressive and the player is required to more actively avoid taking damage in way that also has a chance of the player fucking up which also adt more tension than just walking away like the originals

>>723090868
You're supposed to run away. It's basically a scripted segment. The fact that hit/hurtboxes are accurate is a welcome sight after having played f.

If this game came out today /v/ would call it woke and shit.

>>723091326
There is literally only white people in the game

>>723091326
/v/ calls everything woke, because 30% of /v/ are mentally ill freaks from /trash/ posting thinly veiled porn threads, 50% are poltards ragebaiting, and 20% are actual vidya players. imagine if janitors did their fucking jobs that they're PAID highly to do and banned these freaks, everything would be good and holy again.

>>723091326
Nothing woke about the game though.

>>723091216
>>723091173
>>723091161
>>723090868
>your games shit combat bad
>my games as shit combat good
why would i play a combat system thats as shit, but the game has 20x the mobs. That alone makes the original superior in gameplay. Least it doesnt force me to interact with it for long.

>>723091510
ok friend explain why you think the combat system in the remake is shit

What is good horror gameplay?

>>723090240
Between this and MGS Delta, Konami has been doing a surprisingly good job with remakes. Though I feel Delta is superior because it basically IS the original game 1:1, but with QoL improvements. My only complaints with Delta were the lack of Subsistence camera in the Legacy mode and them screwing up the timing on the ladder scene slightly.

>>723090434
fpbp

>>723091617
Unironically SH3 on hard mode. The game really limits your supplies on hard and every playthrough I end up with barely anything by the end.

>>723091617
The Resident Evil games. Silent Hill mogs RE in terms of story, but RE beats SH in terms of gameplay.

>>723092223
SH3's gameplay is fucking awful

I unironically thought the combat is sh2r was good. Nice and simple, feels good, no overly complicated mechanics dragging it down.
>muh thousand mannequin
You can just run like almost all of the regular enemies like in every other survival horror game

Playing 2 again now and I feel like it's the hardest of the original trilogy to replay. 1 feels like a more complete package while 3 feels the most tightly designed. The school and mall are much better openings then the hotels. It's a shame since from the societal center to the end is when SH2 hits hardest.

>>723092481
3 has the best gameplay out of the ogs and 2 has the worst
both sh2make and f went the cookie cutter route and ruined it with the same over the shoulder slop

>>723083142 (OP)
It was the game to truly and utterly kill the franchise by turning it into Resident Evil. And now ever single game will need to be something besides an actual Silent Hill game.
Poetic in a way, it ends with the destruction of it's greatest achievment

SH1 is the thinking man's SH.

>>723091686
>Between this and MGS Delta, Konami has been doing a surprisingly good job with remakes
Are you fucking shitting me??
Every single DEmake of theirs, ESPECIALLY the SH2 and DELTA, have been irredeemable, AIDS-filled trash. UE5 jank, DEI shit, overpriced valor theft, with BUTCHERED gameplay.

DELTA itself is literally the "Twin Snakes 2025", that proves how much attention to detail Kojima paid to the game balance and art-design, where as the Poo-inna-loo devs Jewnami outsourced the Delta to just keep slapping in modern features and not giving a fuck about balance nor optimiziation. There's not a single reason why a PS2 game running on UE5 cannot get at least 60fps at native 1080p on > 12GB DX12 card.

>>723092512
It's not a matter of being "good or bad". The action-oriented "Souls lite" gameplay has no room in the Silent Hill franchise.
This was established already back in 2008, and it stays so in 2025. The fact that these Polak homos decided to axe Masahiro Ito and make a literal SH:HC reskin with nonstop DOOM 2016-style combat arena rooms, obliterating the slow-burn, somber horror adventure style and mood, is unforgivable sin.

>>723092598
This is what I've been saying the pasts 25 years now. I adore SH2, but it's a pain in the arse to play.
I do honestly feel the same about 3 as well. It also has the least replay value in general.

>>723091473
Why is on the anti woke gamer list then?

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/Woke_Content_Detector/discussions/1/601893430931519588/

>>723092863
If 3 has the "best gameplay", then Silent Hill just has shitty fucking gameplay period

>>723092973
>The action-oriented "Souls lite"
What the fuck about it is souls? The dodge button? It's literally just diet Resident Evil. Shoot the stanky leg, and finish off on the ground. It's not "souls" by a simple virtue of enemy attacks snapping to you.

>>723092973
>"Twin Snakes 2025"
Given twin snakes was a massive improvement over mgs1 sounds like delta is the go-to way to play.

>>723093526
Sovlless

>>723093234
gameplay is not just combat, but also all the mechanics you have to interact and engage with, retard

>>723090868
Silent Hill games do not need a dodge. Its amazing how much these developers working on the games in the past 2 decades have convinced idiots that this series needed it. The only dodging it should have is footsies aka strafing but not a literal dodge button.

>>723090486
>Poltard fatigue

>>723083335
Why are cats so great?

Good gameplay is actually the antithesis of a good horror game like Re4 is pretty fun because you can like snipe zombies and karate kick them in the face but it's not scary in the least same with say dead space where you use a chainsaw and stamp aliens by comparison something like Alien Isolation and Outlast actually are quite scary but they're literally just hide and seek simulators which becomes dull.

>>723091326
Maria is hot and so is Angela so no
>>723093031
Look at the bottom it's about the DEImake not OG

>>723094078
The story and actually substance of the game is unchanged and that's what he's crying about.

>AAA crawl through gap segments
>over the shoulder camera sapping tension out of the game
>constant combat encounters
>everything looks too clean
The one nice thing was expanding the town a bit and being able to go into a decent amount of stores.

>>723094078
Proto-soi. No wonder people that played this 20 years ago are all balding soifreaks.

>>723092973
>not giving a fuck about balance

They rebalanced the game. Mostly notably with how they nerfed the Tranq gun because it was way too broken in the original. They increased guard sightlines to make up more your increased movement capabilities too.

>>723094249
>tension
What tension? You literally had a radio that told you when enemies are near. The remake at least was clever with and made the radio not react to hidden enemies.

>>723083335
Because it plays better than the clunky-ass original. Not to mention that the voice acting is leagues better, making the story much more engaging.

>>723094078
>Look at the bottom
You are acting like what they wrote there in terms of characters and themes is not applicable to the original.
>The backstories and story events of multiple characters are indicative of anti-family, anti-male/anti-patriarchy themes.
There is no Silent Hill 2 on Steam, only a remake.

>>723083335
>>723086016
Eh, I've been a fan of the series since the OG game came out and I really enjoyed Silent Hill 2 remake.

>>723092598
4 is the shittiest one to play, by a mile.
The concept is genius, the execution not so much lol

>Change the game in anyway like SH2R
WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!
>Keep everything basically exactly the same like MGS3R
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!

Holy shit fuck gamers no wonder devs despise them.

>>723083335
I loved SH2R and I guarantee you I've played more SH games than you have.

>>723094372
The original voice acting has a certain effect with its awkwardness. Guy Cihi’s performance in particular is perfect for James. He sounds like a quiet, emotionally stunted sperg, which is perfect for the character.

>>723094519
Why, its not even a SH game

>>723094372
If you call whatever the fuck those voice actors did better than the original, you're retarded. Mary's letter in the original is one of the best VA performances in all of vidya, and they completely shat on it in the remake. The DEmake also loses tons of nuance in order to make it more casual and TLOU-like

>>723094584
Neither is anything after 3.

>>723094535
There is too much yapping in the demake in general.
SH games were supposed to feel like a dream, not a day trip with your safe slutty gf.

>>723094654
SH4 and Origins are more SH than 2.

Do homecoming and downpour work on a ps3 emulator?

I actually own them on 360 but have somehow managed to lose the console somewhere.

I've heard they are shit but don't care.

Okay but where'd he get the pizza

>>723094475
There shouldn't have been a remake for either. In fact, no good game will ever need a remake.

>remake
cringe

>>723094805
They do. I played them several years ago on fairly old hardware

>>723083142 (OP)
Tranny Demake

>>723094738
>There is too much yapping
I disagree. On his own, James says almost nothing, and his interactions with Maria while touring cannot be categorized as "too much yapping" when half of his responses are "haha you too..." other than that, there is very little filler ad-lib that was added.

>>723093561
>snoy still seething after 20 years

Are horror games supposed to have good combat? There's nothing scary about satisfying combat or having lots of options to fight stuff or being agile.

They're remaking 1 and probably 3 as well.

Cope and seethe.

>>723095209
No, combat is supposed to be slow and clunky, and you're supposed to want to avoid it as much as possible. That's why nu-SH makes no sense

>>723095268
>IGN India
that's the fucking demographic for these remakes.

>>723095327
Please let the endless parade of morons bitching about combat know this

>>723090240
i think it helps that it was actually a love letter to the game by real fans of the game and not just another Tomm Hulett situation where "actually i know better than the original people who made the game, the game has shit combat and shit voice acting but i love it and think it's great" like we all thought it was gonna be.

>>723091510
even the combat heavier entries of the series like 1 and 3 are better than 2-remake or SHf because it's still not focused on the combat, the focus is always on the environments and atmosphere. i was thinking about how much scarier and memorable the bosses in SH1 are even though they are a magnitude easier than most video game bosses because you're totally immersed in the experience and not juggling 30 different meters and game mechanics. SHf just felt like every FromSoft game and their derivatives i ever played before.

>>723095209
Making a horror game is the hardest game genre to make, if the combat is too good it's no longer scary and just an action game but it's bad you get tards crying about it or complaining it's a walking sim or hide and seek simulator.

>>723094801
lol faggot

>>723095327
>you aren't supposed to engage in the games mechanics.
We got a real Shattered Memories enjoyer here lmao.

>>723095547
>Making a horror game is the hardest game genre to make
Granny was played by more people and made more money than all SH combined. Horror is the shittiest genre for low IQ retard.

>>723095679
Mking engaging in it ever optional and discouraging it are different things.

>>723095327
>you're supposed to want to avoid it as much as possible
What, in your opinion, goads players to GET hit in the remake? There is no bull rushing the enemies, and you can only hit one dude at a time. You are not invulnerable during stomps and can easily be stunlocked. Most dangerous rooms, where you are outright forced to fight, consist of you running from side to side, chipping away at numbers. Again, the nigger fags who insist this is Dark souls dodge have not played the game.

>>723093332
boss fights are literally fromsoft fights lol. it's the exact same tricks and mechanics fromsoft started using as a crutch in lieu of actual interesting fight mechanics in elden ring like attacks that are delayed forever, input reading, high damaging instagrab attacks, the works. and yeah the whole thing with babysitting a stamina bar, dodging, parrying, it's all fromsoft 1:1.

>>723094038
at least RE4 is a fun shooting/action game though when you're over the horror it provides. i think the first playthrough can be pretty scary at least. but you look at SHf and it's not a good action game so when you're over the limited scares it provides all you're left with is the story.

>>723094475
the consensus i'm seeing is more that they did the wrong approach for each game. MGS3's charm doesn't really translate to modern day HD with a 1:1 remake. but i think SH2's atmosphere would translate with a 1:1 remake. on the other hand SH2 lost a lot in the 'modern' translation, but MGSV exists and shows the game works with larger environments. it should have just been like a Ground Zeroes type rework of all the game's environments.

>>723083142 (OP)
>I love pointless remake
>I love playing a game because of old hype
>but not the old original game, I wanna a remake slop
What causes this illness?

>>723095760
I never heard of that game before seems like an inferior version of Hello Neighbor how sad.

It's over.

The actual best SH game

>>723088757
>exact same game
except the part where they changed the theme of james' otherworld for no reason
get ready for sh1r to look exactly like sh2r, which doesn't make any sense

Will it be kino?

>>723096119
My brain initially interpreted this as a photoshop that changed "lost in vivo" to "lost in kino"
Then I realized it wasn't edited at all
Am I damaged?

>>723096119
signalis

>>723096231
god, I hope so

>>723095921
>the consensus i'm seeing is more that they did the wrong approach for each game.
The /v/ consensus? Because everyone loved both of these remakes. In fact the main criticism for SH2 is not the combat, but rather it's too easy to just run past everything just like the original. Everyone agrees that despite it being soulshit, it's still better than the OG.

>>723095420
Silent Hill 1 is archaic as fuck, even moreso than 2. Everyone would benefit from playing the remake with the industry-standard, over-the-shoulder gameplay of SH2R. There's nothing stopping you from downloading DuckStation and playing that clunky relic, but there's many of us interested in the series that are put off by its outdated gameplay and presentation.

I just don't don't find games about random monsters and ghosts scary.

If you want an actually scary game you should make a horror game about a war or than or maybe a game about a single woman being hunted by a serial rapist now that would be some scary shit.

>>723096380
It's funny how PBR makes everything similar even though Unreal and RE engine are different.

>>723096446
>outdated presentation
wrong
>outadated gameplay
wrong again

>>723096446
Filtered by Lynchian kino, truly sad.

>>723095679
SH1-3 are survival horror. You're intentionally trying to avoid combat as much as possible to save supplies and health. Now compare that to nu-SH where you have to fucking perfect dodge and parry every enemy you come across. Not only does this get rid of any suspense you have of the enemies, but it also defeats the purpose of the characters. In SH2, James is supposed to be a every man's man, not someone who is able to fucking dodge and parry enemies.

>>723096467
>survival horror porn game
You are cooking bro

>>723096446
There is no such thing as outdated in an artistic medium like video games.
Its not an engine where legions of engineers optimize the friction to increase power output by 5% over the years.

>>723096617
Kek you upscaled the game because you couldn't stomach the original graphics.
>>723096620
You learned the words 'Lynchian kino' from this board, you mark.

>>723095876
The fact that you HAVE to fight every fucking enemy. Also, there is blatant dodging, and SHf makes the SH2 DEmake combat even worse.

When?

>>723095921
>boss fights are literally fromsoft fights lol
But they aren't. Holy fuck, why are you people acting like fromsoft invented attack winds up now?
>input reading
Actually shizo hours now. What boss "reads" inputs? What the fuck are you even referring to? They all have their set pattern attacks, they don't give a shit if you heal, and again, their attacks snap to you. It doesn't matter if you dodged away, if you missed the timing of the dodge, it's going to hit even when you are not in the range. That's not "souls".
>babysitting a stamina bar
Nigger, the dodge is on a set cooldown. There is no stamina.
>parrying
You haven't played the game.

SH2 is a game everyone swears they owned and played but in reality just got their opinions of the game from youtube essays and GDQ speedruns.

>>723097063
I have played the original and it was a dogshit game. Stayed away from the remake because of that. It was better on PS1.

>>723096832
>HAVE to fight every fucking enemy
No, you don't. There are rooms where you have to fight because exiting requires an animation of moving bullshit and such that will be interrupted, but there are a fuck ton that you can just run past and retreat. You can still run past every Mandarin in the game (except the two in labyrinth). I'm starting to have a feeling you have not played the game and your sole knowledge of it comes from /v/ shitposts.

>>723096623
>SH1-3 are survival horror. You're intentionally trying to avoid combat as much as possible to save supplies and health
Ask me how I can tell you haven't played them without telling me so.

>>723096828
shit graphics and art direction stay shitty no matter how much you upscale it
good graphics and art direction are timeless and look good whatever the resolution
upscaling it as technology improves over the years just make it look even better

>>723097063
They are the typical
>massive silent hill fans excited to play the series for the first time

>>723096779
Video games are a fusion of the mechanical and abstract. The artists' vision can only be interacted with using physical hardware that's subject to contemporary limitations
That hardware is used to commandeer a narrative presented through in-game parallel mechanical systems meant to provide a challenge to the player. Those in-game mechanical systems are also subject to age because they can be limited by the power of the target hardware.

>>723097247
This was from my first SH2 playthrough. On normal, supplies isn't scarce, but combat isn't something that you're actively seeking

>>723096446
Here's your typical Blooberfags that have never played the originals

>>723097386
If I developed a game today that looked just like that, you'd call it awful... because it is.

>>723097247
It's kind of silly that in SH1 if you kill an enemy by stomping it always counts as a melee kill even though you're using a gun to down them 99% of the time

>>723096446
Silent Hill 2 Remake didn't even try to be an alternative to the original, what makes you think 1 Remake will be any different?

I just shoot them in the knee and whack em with my crowbar then when the get up I shoot em in the knee again.

>>723097724
You don't need to seek it. You easily have enough supplies to kill every enemy you come across. It's like Resident Evil. I can't fathom how you'd ever think the game has limited supplies unless you're just missing every single shot and facetanking enemies.

>>723097738
Because the way it looks and plays are downright off-putting— which is what I said in the first post.
>>723097873
SH2R presents the same narrative as the original, but with loads of quality-of-life fixes. It absolutely is an alternative to the outdated original.

>>723097649
The ultimate expression of whatever the developer wanted to do that appears on your screen is limited by hardware. But the concept behind the game is artistic and thus timeless.
Silent Hills gameplay and design is just as serviceable as it was in 1999. This zoomie mindest that games can be "outdated" leads to the current landscape of off the line, mass produced UE5 slop that universally follows the same formula. Or, which I actually think is the case, this idea was shilled top down to make people accept that all games are the same now.
Blooper didnt even try to recreate SH2, they just made some generic over the shoulder UE5 crap.

>>723096623
SH3 is the most combat focused out of any SH.

>>723097985
Yes, supplies isn't limited, and it's very easy to go the whole game without dying. Still though, I would rather SH1-3 combat compared to whatever the fuck this new combat is. It's just not like Silent Hill at all.
In SH2, James is supposed to feel weighty and clunky on purpose. He's an average guy. Now compare that do this fucking atrocious TLOU combat where you have to dodge every attack and press X not to die. Not only that, but you have to fight far more. Destroys part of the character, as well as suspense of the monsters.

>>723097873
>what makes you think 1 Remake will be any different
Because direction of all conversation that are not cinematics is flat and lifeless (watch how on release there will be a pack of shizos pretending that this was absolutely international and not a result of limitations). Characters just stand in front of each other in groups of two or three, gesticulating randomly. With minimal close ups, PS and all. All of this will be changed for sure. SH2 conversation cutscenes already had direction and polish fucks knew better than to change them drastically. This is not the case of numerous "PS1 models stand in front of each other and talk"

>>723095921
I think ALOT of MGS3 would be lost with a reimagining unless it was the original devs doing it. MGS3 holds up remarkably well to this day, so Delta really didn’t have to change much aside from modernising the controls.

If it was something like MGSV, you’d lose the tight pacing the original hand because it would become a semi-open world game rather than being a linear journey through small interconnected sandbox areas. I really feel Delta is the best they could have realistically done. I’d rather have a remake that’s safe than a remake that’s a complete departure from the original. Original concepts I think would be best put to use in a new Metal Gear game. Maybe the Delta team will end up making a new Metal Gear game that doesn’t focus on BB’s bloodline and is instead about some other agent, and Delta was just a trial run for that.

>Now compare that do this fucking atrocious TLOU combat
Meant to say
>Now compare that to this fucking atrocious TLOU combat

>>723098419
As long as you admit
>SH1-3 are survival horror. You're intentionally trying to avoid combat as much as possible to save supplies and health
Was a complete bullshit statement, that's fine. You're entitled to your other opinions.

>>723087598
>Because look at how positive the reaction has been
From normalfags who never played Silent Hill, but saw "Silent Hill 2" on the box and felt the need to act like "huge fans" for the epic gamer cred.
>cares about ecelebs
God, normalfags begone.
>>723088241
I'm genuinely very tired of dealing with normalfags like you who refuse to stay on their turf.

>>723098232
I'm sorry, but video game narratives can't be consumed or experienced in the way film and literary narratives can. I'm not playing a 20 FPS blocky, clunky slog of a game from almost 30 years ago to experience a story I can read on Wikipedia. I'll happily wait for Bloober to release their remake.

I hope they'll never remake SH3, bloober will definitely make it look worse than the original

>old good new bad
>'cuz I was told so!
>FUCK OFF NORMIES

>>723098764
I hope they get nuked before they can release their 1 remake

The problem with SH2R is there's too many enemies in the game.
It starts to feel like a beat em up because there's constantly enemies around and yeah they made them too easy to kill with melee

>>723098749
They could remake the game instead of releasing their own cookie cutter shit you know.

>>723097804
of course it was limited by tech because it was released 26 years ago
despite that it still manages to be atmospheric (especially thanks to the limited render distance that they had to work around of), look good overall and still has perfectly horrific scenes
there's plenty of indie games nowadays trying to replicate ps1 graphics and SH still looks better than all of them
pic related (not dissing it tho)

>>723098419
>He's an average guy.
And this aspect is still in the game. All of his swings are desperate. He screams and gasps. All of the on-the-ground finishers are imparted by his voice to be someone fighting for his dear life. His awkward side step isn't a ranger roll. Not to mention this trigger discipline and the added accidental discharge, where the first time you aim the gun with James, he will shoot on his own accord because he doesn't know what he is doing.

>>723098897
I weep for what they will do to Heather...

>>723098425
>it'll be an alternative to the original by completely changing it

>>723098820
>FUCK OFF NORMIES
Yes.

>>723094372
We're doing this again, huh

>>723083142 (OP)
Its a complete butchery of the original game
Its actually amazing how much this game ruins and at times completely displaces the original aesthetic and style of Silent Hill 2

An abomination

>>723098897
Post more edits. I'm sure that will prove your point.

>>723098897
If you complain about the Remake's redesigning of Angela because you no longer find her attractive, you didn't understand a damn thing about her character.

>>723099225
>she got raped so she has to be ugly

>>723098974
>And this aspect is still in the game. All of his perfect dodges are something a normal guy could do. When he swings a metal pipe as fast and hard as he can, three times, in the matter of seconds, it's something a normal guy could do.
Get the fuck outta here

>>723098974
James in the demake is capable of fucking genociding the entire town with just a pipe while dodging their attacks like a pro fighter
Original james is just a normal scared guy fighting for his life
Get the fuck out with that shit

>>723099257
She wears a turtleneck to appear modest, because she doesn't want to be sexualized or seen as a sexual object. Why? Because the sexual abuse she suffered at the hands of her family left her with a broken understanding of love, lust, and sex. It's evidenced by the way she chastises James after he saves her from the bed-frame monster. Her redesign was a test, and you failed.

>>723099356
>I can't swing a metal pipe/piece of wood three time in a life or death situation.
No, anon, you should get the fuck out of here and lift literally anything heavier than the keyboard you are typing this bad-faith bullshit on here. Is James infinitely stunlocking the gimps with never-ending overhead slams supposed to be average male behavior too?
>All of his perfect dodges
Side steps and half-meter lunges are a superhuman ability indeed.

>>723083142 (OP)
9/10 fantastic bait

>>723098869
If they made the melee kinda bad like in the original (or basically unusable like in SH1) it would have been fine.
This reveals exactly why gun focused combat is important for survival horror games because it forces resource management. If melee combat is too viable it's a problem unless you add weapon durability which for some reason survival horror games rarely do.

>>723099671
Go back.

>>723098897
>>723099225
Funny thing is in Bloober's concept art she is attractive, their modelers are just incompetent or they just decided to use an ugly scan.

>>723099908
>>723100086
Here. Have a nice wank, you pigs.

>>723094202
>>723094276
>>723094401
4k members dont represent the majority of the Anti woke Chad crowd, only the DEImake is woke trash

unreal that you incel freaks think that new Angela is unattractive
who gives a fuck anyway?
stick to your anime gachas you pathetic losers

>>723100143
>eyes have no occlution shadow and reflection despite the modified shape
Yeah, just incompetent modelers

>>723099680
Yup, okay.

>>723099225
>>723099671
None of this matters, they Made her ugly to fill an agenda and that deserves to be shunned
>>723100143
Much better

>>723096446
Youre retarded, Silent Hill 1 probably has the best gameplay and movement of the first 3 games

>>723083142 (OP)
I like the remake, but it's way too long. The original had replay value because multiple endings + normal lenght (10hrs for a first playthrough, 5hrs for replays).
My playthrough of SH2R took around 17~18hrs.

>>723100486
3 is the best in regards of gameplay. More polished than all games released after it, even.

>>723100335
James getting grabbed by PS3 games

>>723099475
>Original james is just a normal scared guy fighting for his life
And he is not able to genocide the town because of tank controls? And if you are good at the game, then what?
You can run through numerous rooms and encounters in the remake and fight only when you are blocked. The only reason you'd go out of your way to not run is supplies found vs. potential damage reward. There is no reason to rack up several hundred kills by the end of the game except player agency.
Again, you fags need to decide what's a gameplay concession and what is actually part of the character.

>>723100335
Normal people don't have hands to restrain a handless figure? Or the rest of the webm James suplexing him? Or the retarded complaint is about James not melting from acid? Pray tell, how does James survive from being hit over the head with a giant ass blade? Is he even human?

>>723100741
>A normal guy is holding onto a armless monster in order to get acid blasted in his face.

>>723100961
You don't know what arms pushing look like do you?

>>723098636
We're enjoying the vidya we play, little /pol/fag. We're happy. Can you say the same?

>>723101223
Where is he pushing? He's literally holding onto a armless monster, kek

>>723101404
He is pushing against the monster as it leans in to vomit all over him. If you can't see that then you have bigger problems anon.

>>723083335
This is a cat thread now. Post the funniest cat gifs

>>723101562
Pushing is an outward motion. you directly go outward. You are a massive retard for still trying to defend this

>>723100961
>a normal guy getting hit over the head with a giant blade and merely flinching
>a seemingly normal man gets hit by a spear full force and produces a mere grunt
Autist-san, do you understand the inherited separation of gameplay and actual written character?
A character surviving unrealistic damage is not an written aspect of a character (unless it's Ethan)

South Vale, entire start of the game and through the apartments was extremely well done. Probably my favorite part of the game, maybe the lake view hotel is better because that was fantastic too, definitely my favorite single level and I loved the balance of puzzles and enemies in it.

Hopefully they learn to balance the two better with the SH1 remake because SH2R got a little overbearing in the middle, on one side I can commend them for that because of how grueling it is but on the other side its not a nice feeling when it starts feeling overbearing, you need a break every now and then

>>723101759
>A character surviving unrealistic damage is not an written aspect of a character (unless it's Ethan)
That's not the issue. The issue is that he's able to fucking go the other direction to avoid getting acid blasted in his face, but he doesn't. And it's all for a TLOU press x not to die

>>723101720
I see you cannot grasp the concept of momentum - he absorbs the push/lean from the monster (which in turn limits the extension of his arms) and as he goes to extend his arms it vomits all over him so he raises his right arm to cover himself. The left arm still pushes but with minimal force as he is distracted by this sudden attack.

It is clear as day in the webm.

>>723089268
;__;
my favorite ending

>>723101953
>And it's all for a TLOU press x not to die
Yes, it's a grab, autist-san. He will push the figure away after the prompt is complete. At the moment it's thrashing in his face, and he is straining against it. Where is your goalpost about him being a normal guy? Did you hide it in your ass? What about him needing metaphorical fortitude to push it away makes him not a normal guy?

>>723102357
Fuck you shill

>>723091326
this board is now 90% indians and se asians, no one with a triple didgit iq comes here for discussion anyway

>>723102357
>RDR2 picrel
that explains it

>>723102501
>so desperately in search of arguments has to resort to looking for comeback in reaction images insinuations

>>723090365
You should have played Resident Evil 4 instead. Silent Hill isn't for you.

>>723102719
forget this nonsense, what is your favorite cat meme?

>>723102862
For my money it has to be blin cat.

>>723088140
>Make the final boss more like the one from homecoming
>everyone claps and says it's an improvement

Monkey proportion

>>723103034
>>723103090
kino

>>723102862
>>723102862

>>723103147
it's kind of funny how bad they are at proportions, Maria's head is too big, Laura has monkey arms, Eddie has the body of a bloated alcoholic in his 50s, Angela looks the most consistent but I guess people complain about her weird jaw, I see it but I don't think it's as awkward as the other characters. James' hands look really small in some scenes

>>723083142 (OP)
I did reinstall after bailing on f out of sheer boredom, and I’m reminded of how much I loved the SH2 remake. I just finished the prison area last night, and I’ll probably go through the Labyrinth tonight.

>>723083335
Been playing SH since the launch of SH1, and I loved the remake of 2. You’re the tourist here.

>>723088305
>No, I won’t tell you how it’s shit.

>>723103527
Yeah, honestly I think they're just really bad at it, regardless of any DEI bullshit.

>>723096380
>The /v/ consensus?
the Metal Gear/Silent Hill super fan overlap. people who have SH2 and MGS3 among their favorite games and they love both series as well. /v/ is mostly third world phone posters now because the faggot jannies chased away most of the quality posters so i don't really care what the consensus here is now.

>>723098441
i disagree. i guarantee you they had a lot of ideas left on the cutting room floor when they were developing the game. MGS2 even was meant to be closer to Ground Zeroes and that idea of "open world" than what it turned out to be, so you can't tell me that when they were coming up with the idea of sneaking in the jungle they weren't imagining a dense urban sprawl for you to sneak and crawl through.

if it weren't for the fact that the Master Collection exists i'd be inclined to agree that a more faithful remake would be the way to go but it's just an inferior version of Snake Eater with a pretty coat of paint. there's no universe where i'd want to play Delta over the original, but at least the SH2 remake has some different things going for it.

>>723104114
Yeah more than anything is them just not knowing how to do proportions. They even patched Maria's head in the day 1 patch so it was even worse before that, which is pretty funny.

But I do think they come from a place of love and to me at least I felt like the remake was a labor of love, they put a ton of work into the environments and sound design and I love that shit. It's not without its flaws and they definitely could have spent more time and money on the cutscenes.

>>723104114
Is the left AI upscaled? It looks really crisp.

REAL QUESTION

Did he improve upon his original work?

>>723089865
I feel like you can see that bitter, sad angry side of him whenever he interacts with Angela. Especiallly when she says that he doesn't love her.

>>723094249
>>everything looks too clean
Desu, I can smell the must and mildew in the hotel, the remake is downright nasty.

>>723106946
Consider the squalor some anons choose to live in, so the state of buildings in the remake might be normal for them.

>>723096623
You're making life hard for yourself by tackling South Eastern Vale by killing everything in sight, you can easily run or hide. If you take the shortcuts, you will be in a tighter area, and will have to fight your way out, or take the long way and sneak in the dark. I made things so much harder for myself by fighting.

>>723096623
>In SH2, James is supposed to be a every man's man, not someone who is able to fucking dodge and parry enemies.
Forgot to say that the remake did a better job of capturing this than in the original. James is slow to aim and fire every gun which does a better job of showing how he little he knows about firearms in comparison to the original where he autoaims and kills enemies across town.

i'm spooked

>>723106504
Fuck no

>>723099475
>Original james is just a normal scared guy fighting for his life
>>723107469
With one little detail, the remake did a better job of displaying James like a nornal scared guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM-2smNqVZc

>>723107535
Never realized SH was located in New Jersey

>>723094816
The tone just manifested it because he was hungry. Just like how Maria was also manifested for James because he secretly wished Mary was a bombshell.
At this point I want to go to silent Hill so that the town can manifest me a big titty tall goth/emo gf to defend from my inner demons

>>723103527
>>723104473
>it's kind of funny how bad they are at proportions, Maria's head is too big
her actress just has a big head in real life but her body is proportional, but they put her head on another model's body so it looks fucking weird and off because her head is not made for those proportions. i guess they were trying to give her a more flattering body to make up for the office lady outfit they gave her but it's just really uncanny valley.

>>723106074
i think it's from the Enhanced Edition, not sure how they upscaled the CG cutscenes.

>>723106504
no but i still liked a lot of the new tracks he did

>>723102765
So silent hill is for retarded faggots who want 0 stimulation outside of muh story easy/easy difficulty settings? shut the fuck up nigger you don't speak for anyone.

>>723110592
Silent Hill was never about having big flashy combat or an undue focus on it, it was always about the atmosphere. if you can't finish SH2 because the combat isn't in your face every 5 seconds then yeah this series isn't for you, sorry.

>>723088305
>300
Dude it's almost like 500. Also prison documents confirms it.

>>723090578
the remake prison fucking sucked dude what are you talking about lol. pretty much all the tension/confusion is absent because they can't help from video gaming it up and making what you have to do super obvious. built in game mechanics like destroying walls with melee weapons undermine one of the creepiest moments in the game. the maze was weak for the same reason, they immediately turn it into a video game dungeon with set "wings" that makes it into content to clear instead of a totally incomprehensible nightmare you can't escape from.

>>723112501
>the remake prison fucking sucked
Not him, but I liked the new prison a little better only because it was more dangerous than the original. Mostly because of those guys that jump at you from the walls. The original wasn't that interesting to begin with imo.

>>723111174
>Silent Hill was never about having big flashy combat or an undue focus on it, it was always about the atmosphere
Tell that to SH1 and 3 and the devs who punish you for not using your ammo.

>>723112952
the whole thing is that it's a place that shouldn't exist. there can't be a prison just sitting preserved under the lake like this, there can't be a long tunnel going from the museum to this place. you're meant to contemplate the nature of this place and question the perspective of the character you play as. but the remake makes it very clear it's just more of the same, find the things and move on to the next thing, nothing unusual or abnormal here. the prison is the beginning of this long descent into utter madness and chaos but in the remake it just feels like the next level.

>>723113391
>the prison is the beginning of this long descent into utter madness and chaos but in the remake it just feels like the next level.
The prison in the original felt more like a transition to walk through (which is a lot of the game really), the remake actually gave it teeth.

>>723113330
pretending that R2+X is anywhere close to the absolute slog that rollslop SH combat plays like is very disingenuous. even SH1 on hard is way more enjoyable than SH2R or F's extreme emphasis on combat at the expense of everything else because the atmosphere is still emphasized.

>>723083142 (OP)
Do it and play a harder difficulty or get a different ending, after a whole year it feels pretty fresh.

>>723113607
>actually gave it teeth
yeah like this series just isn't for you "bro" it's not about proving anything lol, the prison isn't supposed to have "teeth". sorry that SH2 didn't validate whatever deep set insecurities you have man.

>>723113817
>because the atmosphere is still emphasized.
So did the remake.

>>723114267
I'm sorry the remake did the prison better than the original, but ad hominem aren't suddenly going to make a game from a quarter century ago any better.

Why would anyone play this over the original? I've beaten both numerous times, but if I had to return to one, I would prefer the scarier, more atmospheric one over the generic, bloated one. The original is superior in practically every way except graphics (the remake is kind of grey and generic looking anyway), but there's a trade off with that too: Unreal Stutter.
>>723113817
SHf could've been way better if they refined the combat mechanics and removed the hitstop and forced fights with the same few enemies--especially the pregnant monster. It's hardly a Silent Hill game anyway, so they might as well focus on the gameplay then.

>>723093876
>Silent Hill games do not need a dodge.
Why not?

>>723114870
Because it trivializes every encounter with absolutely no risk taken since you basically have infinite iframes. At least you have to mind your position in sh1 and not blindly mash the dodge button to avoid any attack.

>>723083335
fucking love this gif

>>723114870
Right and it was not needed. In fact it looks quite goofy in this game. I was in a thread yesterday and a few anons had mentioned that they didn't know that Silent Hill 2 and 3 had blocking.

>>723114639
>Why would anyone play this over the original?
Because the original is more movie than game.

>>723117085
apologize

>>723094535
>>723094738
>>723094654

>Poser

>>723117085
Worst Combat in the series.

>>723117506
saying that when F exists is wild

I didn't like that the cutscenes were changed so that there's a lot more focus on facial expressions .I didn't like how the James POV was removed from the Staircase of Fire scene so we don't actually see Angela talking down on us. I don't like that Angela wasn't positioned above James during that scene to signify her ascension. I don't like that the Pyramid Head scenes were slightly censored so that we don't actually see him assaulting monsters. I don't like that Pyramid Head didn't get enough buffs to make him a threat in open areas.

Angela shouldn't have broke down during the stair case of fire scene. this is supposed to be the first time in the game we walk in on her in a position of power.

>>723117085
I wish this came out of PC or something, I never had a 360 so I never played it.

I prefer the remake, haven't played the original as I wasn't born yet when it was semi-popular.

>>723118035
Ironically SH2 was never popular. It was always a niche title. It only came to prominence during the YouTube secondary era when people started talking about it. Most fans of SH2 never even played it before the remake.

>>723118035
SH2 wasn't really liked on release. it was scene as pretentious and an insult to the original because it deviated from the occult story line. there's not much issue with the remake's combat. it was a much needed improvement. The issues I have are mainly with the artistic choices.

>>723092972
>The dynamic lighting on the bottle as its flying
Wait that's fucking impressive

>>723092972
how were you supposed to know how to get the good ending on your first playthrough?

>>723094475
>There is yet to be a legal way to play the original SH2
>There is a legal way to play the "original" MGS trilogy but 2 and 3 have unique flaws that for some reason were just never addressed
Okay, bro, you do you.

>>723104114
Nothing will ever infuriate me than the modern industry's apparent loss in knowledge of how to utilize lighting and shadow to compose a scene. There is no reason to not have mimicked the original's intentional dark tones and mappings to create a sense of uncanny, that something is obviously very wrong here, and create the tone of discomfort that is just GONE in the remake. AND I SAY THIS LIKING THE REMAKE.

who is the guy on the right?

>>723088241
I hope you die in a car crash.
Today.

SH2R was decent but had some pretty fucking terrible gameplay balancing. I'd never call it great but I guess it was fine to good.

>>723083335
fpbp

>>723120278
It's the janitor from the bathroom stall.

>>723088241
ridicule and righteousness doesnt equal to seething, brainlet. why would i be mad knowing i have superior tastes and perception? if anything it makes me pity the goylems like you that eat up every slop they get served without questioning.

thats why the jews are correct. some of you are literal cattle.

Why is Silent Hill 2 so fucking beautiful when it should be a disgusting horror game full of slop shock? The narrative is so dark, mature, and painstakingly thematic to a single characters trauma. How the fuck did they do it? Truly a masterpiece

What could have fixed him?

>>723091161
>>723091173
>>723091216
>>723091320
>i-it's a scripted encounter! the remake's combat is full of tension i swear!

>>723125126
friends

people all over the world go through trauma, but don't turn out to be murderers. Either because it would be difficult to do so without getting caught or they found some way to heal through companionship. :)

>>723098114
If the original silent hill games suck, why would you even want to play them, let alone a shittier remade version of them?

I would fuck the shit out of nu Maria, no questions
Way hotter than the original

>>723100486
>Silent Hill 1 probably has the best gameplay and movement of the first 3 games
>best movement
It's always so easy to spot someone who has never actually played SH1 and are just regurgitating the lies spread by its fanboys because that is blatantly false. It does not have better movement than any of the sequels including SH2, not by a long shot and it's one of the biggest detriments to the game.

>>723125126
Feeder gf

>>723094350
>The remake at least was clever with and made the radio not react to hidden enemies.
Not to be a dick but the original did this too, there's a reason why the lying figure under the car works as a jump scare.

>>723094350
that's the point. to warn you of danger, but not exactly tell you where it is from. I always turned off the radio in all Silent Hill games because I like the suspense and the noise can be annoying :C

>>723127946
>show good gameplay
>call it bad
what did he meant by this

Just beat this game an hour ago and thought it was great. Got the Maria ending, which seems like the "bad" ending. What influences the ending you get? I shot Satsui no Mary in the head after beating the final boss; did that somehow alter the ending? Was I supposed to chill around while she kept calling James name?

>>723083335
Cause it's a falseflag post

>>723124090
Because it's relatable to anyone going through a break up or divorce. SH2 feels very personal and real, like it could happen to any of us.

>>723118231
>>723118435
>SH2 wasn't liked on release
According to Yamaoka and Imamura who were both there since the first game it was very well liked on release actually.

silent hill fans deserve to eat shit

>>723096828
Are you retarded?
The game was run initially at 800x600 and was meant to be played at CRTs that image is barely upscaled and still looks good on a flat screen.

>>723125126
Distortion made it better.

>>723130128
I was on Gamefaqs when the game was new. people thought it was cringe and boring. you'd have to have a super duper mature Twin Peaks/Jacob's Ladder enjoyer which was a small percentage of gamers at the time. teens mainly liked Resident Evil and other action games. people that liked SH2/Ico/Shadows Of The Colossus were cringe emo kiddies.

SH "fans" are the whiniest cunts on the internet. Those faggots over at Twin Perfect have ruined discussing these games for the past 10 years and counting.

>>723088140
>mentally ill person who is sleep deprived and completely oit of it should be a master of combat with improvised weapons
This retarded logic is how we end up with "teleports behind you" jap schoolgirls in F

>>723134574
We had to deal with bad Silent Hill games that kept happening after 4 and now we have successful Silent Hill games that miss the point artistically that are dividing the fanbase so yes I am going to be pissing my panties and whining about videogames.

>>723083142 (OP)
>Konami ruins Castlevania with shitflix troons and nogs
>Konami proceeds to let troons and nog tourists ruin silent Hill
It's fucking over

>>723089127
>Eileen's armpit stubble all over the blanket
hngnr

>>723130601
the game would run at 240p on ps1

>>723083142 (OP)
i love it when faggots like you make the same OP over and over and shitposters use it to farm engagement from anons retarded enough to engage with this

>>723088241
"Hate keeps a man alive. It gives him strength."

-Arrius

>>723096337
my brain saw "lost in Ohio"

>>723128759
The absolute state.

whoa this game is great

>>723134848
>that miss the point artistically
how does f miss the point artistically? aside from being unreal engine slop

>>723083142 (OP)
remake Brookhaven and Lakeview might be the most beautiful locations in modern gaming, such genuinely compelling locations that stay with you.

>>723142570
>Lakeview
Lakeview was more or less perfect, the pristine hotel in contrast with the rest of the game, the balance of exploration, puzzles and combat. It's my favorite level in the whole game and I'm glad it went out so strong.

The only thing I'd change which made me seethe a little bit is that one room with actual manikins in it, it felt so cheap to have the manikin enemy jumpscare in that room, it would have been so much more memorable had there not been an enemy in there and you just had to be on your guard expecting something that never comes. I actually kind of rolled my eyes when one popped up, have a little restraint.

Harry is godly levels of Chad, hopefully the remake doesn't fuck up his character model. For all the flaws of the character models in 2R they did do a good job with James.

>>723142236
dude.... psychological horror and super natural. it's not Resident Evil type of Horror so it's SILENT HILL! SILENT HILL PHENOMENON MEANS THE WHOLE OTHERWORLD CAN HAPPEN IN ANY PLACE AND ANYTIME! it doesn't have to take place in Silent Hill. I see surreal type of horror and I think Silent Hill.

the only reason why people compare it to silent hill is because of

>>723088140
bruh, the S O V L is oozing out of my screen

>>723108254
>lorelet

>>723083335
Do you just stay up 24/7 waiting for the next silent hill thread and post this? Every time.

>SHf
>Find spooky thing
>Inspect
>"I should leave right now"
>Sprint back to save point
idk how that spooked me more than anything in the game so far

>>723123636
You sound like a huge fedora tipping faggot holy shit

>>723146229
it's a bit unsettling at first true, but you quickly realize nothing happens in that room
there's really nothing scary in that game
the only "scares" and danger come from the hidden mannequins behind a corner, which is ok a couple of times, but it happens all the time in that game and are only a bit dangerous if you're running all the time, easy to avoid if you take it slowly
the monsters themselves are a non issue, you can just walk by them they don't even attack you, and they're quick to drop aggro too
webm related

>>723147107
yea i'm starting to realize combat is unrewarding and i should sprint and spam dodge past everything