Thread 723104164

/V/ can I get some help again, I got some help with Balatro months ago but now ever since I have been unable to break records

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https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/710133814/#710133814

I just can't fucking win. /v/ taught me to use to the moon but I cant come up with cool new strategies on my own and I refuse to google stuff
I wanna learn on my own

>>723104164 (OP)
>I wanna learn on my own
>HELP ME 4CHAN REEEEEEEE
make up your mind retard

My stats

>>723104352
>two pair
lol
lmao

>>723104279
If you're not a genius you can't just come up with meta strategies you will just infinitely lose because every game is now balanced around everyone having immediate access to the best possible strategies 24/7

>>723104482
But I dont wanna cheat, why would I play a game thats not trial and error...

>>723104352
if you can get that high, it seems like you already understand how to create a powerful deck. Just try to focus on your multiplier.

I just dont get this game, it makes me tear up and wanna cry and hyperventilate...I'm not stupid I think...
>>723104604
I managed to only get that during the same week /v/ helped me but only because of To The Moon, Im a one trick pony but even now Im not getting that to work

I hate this game, I keep playing it but I hate it

BUMP
can i have any advice?

BUMP

>>723104164 (OP)
Oh you are that fag, I am done trying to teach you how to play the game, all you are good for is ERP larping with other anons you slut.
>>723104352
>7% deck stake wins
Honestly pretty pathetic for 75 hours.
>>723104724
Get photo and chad together, they are pretty common and easy to win with, take jokers that generate money if you can beat the mid and boss blind, more money equals opening more packs, spectral packs are worth it early, Joker packs are worth it to see more jokers, arcana is great but you don't want to buy arcana packs when your broke. Lean in to a hand that is either consistent (Pair, High Card) or strong (Straight), two pair can be played if you have the pants and square cards that benefit from two pair

>>723105997
WHY CANT I PLAY OR BE GOOD AT THIS GAME?

>>723104279
Some strategies aren't anything special to figure out, I swear just look at your jokers, and think which ones will work together with each other. Like for example, does a joker act in the played hand or holding hand? If the former, get then jokers that multiply/add mult for the played hand, and same for the latter. Or, if it's a joker that slowly scales mults by multiple hands played, what jokers would work with that? Well, other things that scale, or money jokers that work by playing more things.
The way most balatro runs work, the moment you get a good joker you can start gearing your run towards that, by looking for other jokers that work well with it, which is achieved by a good economy.
There's some more specific things that you do just need to play to figure out, ie what's the best hand to play for a joker like ride the bus (hint, surprisingly not high card) and some simple math to figure out when it comes to order of retriggers, but mostly you just gotta think about your choices a bit more.

>>723106291
I just dont get this game, nothing works. I've tried every single combo of cards I can get, nothing works

bump

>>723106760
Do a quick test for me. Do you have the joker "baron" unlocked? Go into your collection, and tell me what jokers you think will work with it, and what cards/hand (incl. their seals and other stuff) would be best for such a joker.

How can you not beat white stake? +mult on the left, xmult on the right, that's it.

>>723107702
I've done that, but I can't get past red stake.
>>723107580
Sure, let me check that.

>>723104164 (OP)
>/V/

>>723107580
Well yeah, I have baron and I am not stupid!
I would use that same way I use to the moon which has been the only viable strategy as a one trick pony
get a lot of cards to copy kings of many suits in mass, with tarot cards, with packs, and so have like a lot of kings in hands and make them all silver cards, get the card to improve high card

here you can see thats what i do already
>>723104724
>>723104812

>>723108136
>get a lot of cards to copy kings of many suits in mass, with tarot cards, with packs
Is that the only way to copy/get more kings?
>make them all silver cards
Ok, that's nice, but what else can you do to these silver kings to make them score more?
>get the card to improve high card
Are planets the only way to improve high card?
I feel you're missing quite a few things, for example what deck would benefit for trying to get this run? What ways to increase retriggers?
And a big one, is steel the only effect you should put on the kings?
>thats what I do already
All I can see is that you half less than half the picture, both some integral jokers that could benefit from this and some tarot cards are woefully underutilized. You see it as a "one trick pony" since you haven't thought of more synergies, but I admit, not many jokers work with in hand effects that well, and it's more useful especially later Antes, while you're struggling with just clearing.

>>723104724
You can force that strategy but you're ignoring all the scaling mult jokers, which are pretty easy wins if you get them by ante 3 or 4 (green joker, ride the bus, spare trousers, red card, etc.)

Also something that gives a nice boost of mult (abstract joker, torn joker, banana) can help you get through fist 4 or 5 antes usually with one or two hands, which gives you money to buy nice things

Having one chips boosting joker can be nice if you're playing a low chip value hand like high card and aren't leveling it up

Having one good money making joker helps you find everything else you need

To finish the game getting an X mult joker (the twins, Cavendish, ramen, vampire, constellation, etc) can help you get the big numbers you need

Seals and tarot cards are very powerful too, especially don't sleep on blue seals

Ok, another test, now not related to something with in hand then. What should you use Lucky Cat with? Or, to look it at another way, which jokers should you have for you to consider swapping to lucky cat? How should you play this build to make this joker worth it?
There's some very obvious answers, but I'm asking for the full picture, so those plus some jokers you wouldn't initially think of putting with this one

ill answer in minutes
>>723109564
I've never used that card, I dont think i own it

>>723109669
How?? This isn't a joker held by an unlock, you have it from the start. Technically the only requirement is for it to start showing up in a run you need to have played a lucky card. Do you just not play them?

Ok, I'll go now, but if you've never seen lucky cat in 75 hours of playing it means you experiment way too little.
Have tarot cards you think are bad, so you don't initially play them? Do the opposite, just play them and see what happens when you focus on them. Jokers that seem kinda shit so you don't pick them? Again, do the opposite, pick the jokers you're least sure about and try to actually utilize their weird mechanics. Same goes with seals, hands, etc, just try stuff and commit to it. Sure, some really are duds, but most tarot cards and jokers can be useful at a certain part of the run

>>723110685
wait, i have a retard on a call, family man

>>723110720
I gotta sleep, not staying up any later. I might reply if this thread is still up when I wake up, but honestly at this point if you still need more advice just swallow your pride and watch some videos of some more experienced balatro players and how they play. There's a lot of micro decisions that just can't be adequately all explained to you unless somebody is watching you play, so the alternative of learning through how others play it will help a lot, and still won't be just about following blindly a guide.

>>723104164 (OP)
>>723104352
>>723104724
>>723104812
>>723105226
>I've played balatro for 75 hours but I cant complete the game

Well it says you've completed a few decks in your stats page, so clearly you've won some white stake runs. Can't you just replicate the strategy you used to win those? But if you're telling the truth and you haven't won in the last 3 days, dude what are you doing? This game is seriously not that hard, ESPECIALLY white stake runs. You can get away with really bad jokers and unoptimized ganeplay. You've gotta seriously be fucking up in order to lose white stake runs, can't imagine you on a gold stake trying to balance eternal, rental and perishable jokers. I'm not even trying to be a dick, but if you can't handle white stake balatro, maybe you should play a different game. White stake is some tutorial mode difficulty tier, so if it's giving you trouble, honestly just give up.

If you insist on persisting, then I guess I can give you some practical advice I guess. Hopefully you're constructing your jokers and your deck correctly, if not, then watch some YouTube videos, there are several that will teach you the game. An almost fool proof joker combo that wins 99.99% of white stake runs is 1 chip joker, 2 mult jokers, 1 mult multer, and 1 utility (typically econ). So for instance, something like bull, constellation, green joker, the trio, and golden joker is a joker combo that wins white stake on virtually every single deck.

You're probably doing your econ all wrong. Remember that you earn interest on every dollar you hold on every deck but the green deck. After you get your first 1, maybe 2 jokers that will hold you over for the first few Antes, don't buy anything in the shop until you've saved more than $25, unless it's a foundational joker you're going to build around. You're number 1 goal at that early stage should be getting over the interest cap to start building your bankroll so you can snowball.

>>723112025
Stop gambling on planets; I see in your consumables that you're buying plutos the most; that doesn't make any sense, are you exclusively doing high card runs? Even if you were, shaping your deck with jokers and especially tarrot cards is way more impactful than planet cards in most circumstances. Since you're still dogshit at this game, for now, try and avoid buying any planet packs until ante 4-5, or until you've built up your econ, say you've got like 35$ or more. Otherwise every dollar should be saved in order to hit the interest cap, or spent on tarrot cards to shape your deck.

Finally, I'm hoping you understand joker positioning, because you might be leaving a lot of points on the table because you aren't positioning your jokers. It goes mult on the left, and mult multers on the right. Chips go wherever, and utilities either go wherever or must also be positioned if you're using certain jokers like blueprint and brainstorm. In those cases, if you're unsure of what to copy, hover over blueprint and it will tell you what's compatible.

And if all that doesn't work, then just give up, this simply isn't the game for you. Stop beating your head on a wall and just give up. Again, if you're struggling like this on white stakes, then you don't got what it takes to win at this game, white stake is coma patient difficulty tier, I cannot comprehend what's taking so long for this game to click for you. If it hasn't reached you by now, it might never, so just go play something else that's more applicable to your level of intelligence. You're probably a battlefield 6 kinda guy, so just accept and embrace it.

>>723104164 (OP)
>RNG mechanics
>pixel "art"
>rogue like game loop
You fell for the trinity of indie slop, OP.
Consider.

>>723104435
Nothing wrong with the old reliable

OP here I dont know if i care anymore, this game is frustrating, i have a massive ego so i feel i have the need to win stuff given i already invested so much time but i mean, what do i get out of playing this thing?

Anon is back
I remember that epic thread
completionist+ stream when?

>>723104164 (OP)
Maybe try it on a baby console
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=--n4VS8ppwI&pp=ygUMQmFsbGF0cm8gZ2Jh
For your baby hands and baby boy brain

>>723113730
i dont know how to set up a stream
i can ask chat gpt to teach me later
>>723112095
>>723112025
i see, thanks, im reading up on this im just confused about this game
>>723110685
>>723109564
im not lying to you, ive never seen it i have one of those in real life in my room
i think i saw it once and thought cute but didnt buy it
>>723113797
i can be very smart sometimes!

>>723113589
Fun. But you're clearly not having any. Just drop it. And admit you're retarded.

>>723112095
if i dont buy planets i feel im out by ante 4 or 5, i need stuff. i like to play one card or try to make the best of the cards i get...
i play on red stakes now...
>>723108975
yeah thats the only way i know to get more cards, i never modify my deck ngl, 52 cards is the default right?

you get a card that can use the stuff in your hands or the face repeat one i dont know
i dont remember what i used for to the moon

>>723104164 (OP)
This game is literally for women, its a modern day candy crush. Think about just how asinine this thread is.

>723114314
dumb anime poster

A Ghost of Yotei grifter thread died for this shit.

>>723114314
so is this game good or not, i feel mad that i wasted enough time anyways so i feel i have to win

>>723114314
Tranime poster. Opinion discarded.

>>723113990
>i dont know how to set up a stream
Shame, it would have been fun
I don't know how come the game hasn't clicked for you yet.
Get your economy in order, make sure you're making money because it helps you do everything else. Make sure you're over the chips threshold because not having any chips will kill you. Get some base mult you can multiply once you get xMult jokers and you're set. Don't just play random hands that look like a good draw, choose a hand in the first few antes and stick with it. Blue seal is your best friend, take one whenever you can and dig for it while playing hands
Do you find yourself losing to boss blinds or do you just get ouscaled by scoring requirements?

>>723115021
What do you consider a win? You have already beaten a run

Finally free from the nigger deck, holy shit
I thought I was going to lose with The Club

>>723115645
well for one im not willing to talk as people could mock my voice/accent and im very nervous

ill think about it. I mostly, well.....I dont wanna give fire to the posters calling me brainlet but I dont calculate at all and mostly try to go at it like in real gambling, I just cant do the math that well
I mostly lose in boss blinds yeah

>>723115674
Wrong screenshot for some reason

>>723115774
This game is all about calculated risk, no gambling involved. Maybe you just have the wrong perception from hearing about the game before you played it, but you should have a different mentality after 80 hours of gameplay.
>I mostly lose in boss blinds yeah
Do you look up the boss blinds before playing into them? Check the boss blind in the shop before every small blind and see if you need to adjust your strategy to beat it.
I am almost certain you're just not paying enough attention to econ. You get $5 of interest every time you beat a blind with over $25 in your pocket, keep that in mind at all times and it will be easy

>>723115797
Congrats
I haven't touched the black or plasma decks after beating the gold stakes on them

>>723116745
Is Plasma as shit as Black too?

>>723117000
It's just different to other decks
First few rounds are easy and you can beat them with almost no help at all. You can use this to you advantage to get the econ going
At some point around ante 4-6 you have to make a decision to pivot from chips to mult or stick with chips until the end. Most ante 8 runs you can win with chips, but you can also run into the Violent Vessel which could end the run
15 gold stake speedrunners always start with Plasma followed by Black because Plasma is the most inconsistent deck and Black is considered the hardest so they get them out of the way first.
My least favorite deck is Nebula. It's not hard, but it's the least flexible. You lose your consumable slot for almost no benefit at all

bump

>>723104724
Play pairs with blue seals held in hand, anon. Ignore my highest hand, it breaks and resets if you NaN, but you can see from the 100% and the fact I had 13,000 bucks at some point, that the game is not that hard.

>>723116745
Yeah its rare when I dont struggle with econ, I just cant make this game fuckign work for me