Thread 723114927

There's no chance it won't suck, right?

it's woke

>>723114927 (OP)
That one polack fem dev that lives in sweden is pure ntr bait

>>723114927 (OP)
vampire the masquerade blinfinitydlines 2

>>723115054
huh?

>>723114927 (OP)
There is an ε chance it wont suck

>>723114927 (OP)
vampires suck? i sure hope she does!

It's gonna be rough

It's going to be a masterpiece.

>>723114927 (OP)
oh it vill suck
your blood, that is :F

GOTY 2025, without a doubt.

NINE DAYS REMAIN

>>723114927 (OP)
If you were a vampire, would you still be racist regarding bloodsucking?

vam phyre...

Between the lengthy and troubled dev cycle and TCRs aversion to actual gameplay, I'm putting this one in the "Wait and see" column.

Hopefully the reviews drop this week. Achievements have already leaked, physical copies will probably be in circulation by mid-week. They're going to completely lose control of the PR narrative, so may as well ride the wave.

>>723115042
yep its woke

>>723119694
>>723115042
The Nomad woke up, yes

>>723119582
What aversion to gameplay? There's so much gameplay online already.

>>723114927 (OP)
In the original, you had a lot of options to be a huge asshole or even a complete sociopath.
Bloodlines 2 looks like a game that has only
>yes
>yes (sarcastic)
>no (will come back later and then say yes)
dialogue options.

>>723114927 (OP)
There's no humor in any of it. No funny radio commercials, no over-the-top characters - the game takes itself way too seriously and is going the dark, edgy route. It's like if VtM was made by Dante, VtM2 is trying to be an ugly, passive-aggressive Vergil.

>>723120075
>In the original, you had a lot of options to be a huge asshole or even a complete sociopath.
Which VTMB2 doubles down on.

>>723120159
Why lie so brazenly?

>>723114927 (OP)
do you want it to be an rpg and true sequel or dishonored in vampre drag

I fully expect to be disappointed by the hub exploration. This thing looks like it's completely on rails.

>>723120418
>I fully expect to be disappointed by the hub exploration. This thing looks like it's completely on rails.
It's basically identical to 1, for better or worse.

>>723120232
Show me a funny clip from the game. Like that snarky Tremere coffee barista. Or that mid-40s ugly Asian hag describing her schoolgirl/priest fetish. Soooo fucking funny a hah hah hah. Go ahead and provide some wacky comedy in VtM2.

>>723120534
Bloodlines 1/2 are over the top, and have humour, but I never laughed a single time at Bloodlines 1, so I don't expect to laugh much at 2.

>>723114927 (OP)
After getting passed around to many devs yeah it's going to suck, play the orginal

>>723120727
It hasn't really been passed around. The original devs fucked up. They were fired. New team came in with their own vision of what Bloodlines should be.

>>723120586
>humour
Hello Brit.
>but I never laughed a single time at Bloodlines 1
Well then you're definitely the type of faggot who would enjoy VtM2. We can all thank people like you for it's creation. But real quick, you asked why I lie so brazenly when I brought up the """humour""" of these games. So I'm still waiting on you to demonstrate and provide an example of this from VtM2. Go ahead, I'm waiting.

>>723120075
>Bloodlines 2 looks like a game that has only
>>yes
>>yes (sarcastic)
>>no (will come back later and then say yes)
>dialogue options.
I'm curious where you got this impression because it could not be further from the truth. It's sorta hard to understand how someone could be so wrong about a game.

>>723120534
Humor is subjective. If you don't find it funny, that's a you problem.

>>723120929
Show me a funny clip that is actually funny from 1. For example, Fat Larry is charming, but he's painfully unfunny.

>>723119804
>punch some guys in an alley
>punch some guys in a parking lot
>punch some guys in a reception area

apart from the VN stuff which does seem decently engaging, honestly the gameplay comes across as quite bare like either a lot is being hidden/held back or is actually barebones as hell. and the devs don't exactly have pedigree of providing more than a vibe-y cinematic walk along with basically no gameplay agency.
we don't know how expansive actual interiors and self-contained levels we be that aren't just in the open city, which will obviously be a bit inconsequential.
like if you are storming through whole hotels on multiple floors, restaurants, museums etc with non-linear layouts like the first one it could be pretty cool.

the opening scene in the abandoned building has a decent vibe but ofc it's completely linear and basically a tutorial. comes across as more of what they've done in the past.

>>723121246
>>punch some guys in an alley
>>punch some guys in a parking lot
>>punch some guys in a reception area
I find it funny that this basically describes the Hardsuit Labs version of Bloodlines 2 to a T.

>>723114927 (OP)
it looks kinda cool from what i've seen, i just hope it's not too bad and woke

>>723120075
This has happened so often in games, does it has a name? Has anyone made a meme image I can conveniently re-post instead of having to type out an explanation every time a game does this?

>>723121173
>Show me a funny clip that is actually funny from 1.
Literally this entire video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLp6vQ6_yKU
If you don't laugh at any part of this then you really need to kill yourself, because you can't show me a single thing from VtM2 that comes close to this.

>>723114927 (OP)
I'll try to go in open minded but it lacks the charm of the original. The soul, the atmosphere. It's just not ticking the boxes for me. You can claim it improved in this area or that area, but overall they did not capture the mood of the original. It looks like a different game to me, just not feeling it. That being said considering I'm trying not to be cynical I'll give it a fair shake and try to go in as blind as possible. Even though Paradox and The Chinese Room do not deserve my money. It's hard for me because I really don't think it should be supported, but I'd like to say I had made an informed opinion.

>>723121987
I never found Deb of Night particularly funny. It reminds me a lot of GTA's radio, which broadly isn't actually funny, either.

>>723121040
Yeah I'm clearly in the wrong for thinking Fat Larry is far more hilarious than that old Tremere cunt running the coffee shop.

>>723121987
The funny part to me is that on /v/ a bunch of people seethe about Bet of the Night (or maybe it's just one guy), but on Youtube nobody can tell the difference between Deb and Bet.

>>723122145
I'm not saying it's wrong to find the first one funnier, but that it's wrong to say "there's no humor" when you actually mean "I don't find it funny."

>>723122116
>I never found Deb of Night particularly funny. It reminds me a lot of GTA's radio, which broadly isn't actually funny, either.
Okay I'm done with you and your bullshit. Kindly fuck off.

>>723119458
If I were a vampire I would play videogames, read books and play with my action figures all day. My ghoul would be a cute girl and I probably would make her bring me food (humans) because I don't like nightclubs

>>723122116
>It reminds me a lot of GTA's radio
GTA's radio talk shows were great in the older games. Now that I think about it, it's probably why I liked Deb of Night too. Had a similar charm to that of older Rockstar.

>>723121918
Pretty sure it's called illusion of choice or something. It's just so devs can say
>Look we have dialogue options in our game!
while they literally don't change anything.

>>723120075
>Bloodlines 2 looks like a game that has only
>>yes
>>yes (sarcastic)
>>no (will come back later and then say yes)
>dialogue options.
You can blast the game on how poorly its written but it absolutely doesn't have this Rajeesh.

>>723120534
He won’t, he will just cope and say that VtMB was not funny. He does this whenever he gets called out on shit that VtMB did better, just say VtMB didn’t do it either and then ignore everything that proves him wrong. Hes literally paid to come here and do this. Best you can do is call him out as the pathetic cum chugging faggot he is.

>>723121040
You wouldn’t need to say this if a game actually had funny shit in it.

No Character Creation (only Customization Hair/Outfit for example)

No Guns

No Melee Weapons

No Stats

No Stat Checks in Dialogue (e.g. Persuasion, Intimidation, Seduction, Scholarship, Investigation)

No Inventory

No Quest Log

No Hacking

No Lockpicking

No Nosferatu

No Humanity System

No Gangrel

No Frenzy

This slop has nothing to do with Bloodlines. Just a stolen title for nostalgiabux.

>>723122993
The problem is that (not him) I never actually laughed at anything in Bloodlines. I like the game, but it's not very funny. It's not a knee slapper. It's mildly amusing at best. So when talking about Bloodlines 2, it's sorta hard to establish a baseline.

>>723123036
Oh holy shit is all this really true? I've only been vaguely paying attention but if that's the case I'm out.

>>723123036
>No Guns
What's this then?

>>723123142
Yea, it's basically System Shock 2 vs BioShock with a pinch of Mass Effect 2 and Dishonored.

>>723123036
>No Quest Log
I kinda find it interesting how people are mad that the game finds a way to have a big open world with lots of side-quests without a quest log. Are people really that afraid of design innovation? Do they absolutely need to be coddled by familiar design templates?

>>723115042
go to bed gramps

>>723123081
You saying not him isn’t going to hide the fact that you’re the same faggot trying to pretend to be other people that agree with you in order to make it seem like other people agree with you since you can’t show a funny moment in you shitty cashgrab. Go get stabbed by some shitskin retard.

>>723115042
One can tell that just from the cover art shills keep spamming on /v/ alone. Basically it got all the trademark of being woke like 1) having angry looking girl boss 2) having no skinship 3) awful pic composition

>>723123387
Careful the shill will start spamming the ugly androgynous screenshots of phaggot and say how it’s totally hot and how he wants “have the fuck with it”

>>723120972
That's what wokeguard shills said in their wokeguard shilling thread. I'm sure it will be lauded as "return to form" here too.

>>723123387
>Basically it got all the trademark of being woke like
>1) having angry looking girl boss
>3) awful pic composition
Yep.

>>723123036
Can someone confirm every point made in this post to be real? because it's just shit if this is the reality. He says guns are a thing>>723123153

But what about the rest? I might even hold off from bothering to test it out against my better judgement knowing how much things it doesn't have. Jesus Christ. The people apparently excited for this game will have to do a lot of spin work to ignore this, and I would say they've been successful at spinning it thus far.

>>723122907
I know. That's why I'm not engaging with him and his bullshit if he's only here to argue just for the sake of arguing. He can say humor is subjective but if he can't provide an example of humor to compare with then it's a waste of time.

>>723123261
There's no "quest log" but the main quest and all available side quests are marked on the map and you can choose which one you want to follow.

>>723123505
Come on then, go on youtube and show me dialogue where you can't say anything mean in VTMB2.

>>723118534
>flat and medium boobs
they really don't want money

>>723122864
Alright shillfag, what did I miss?
Pretty much every preview mentions how lackluster the rpg mechanics are and every trailer and gameplay footage was focused on sneaking or combat.

>>723123601
>Pretty much every preview mentions how lackluster the rpg mechanics are
Every preview mentions how they didn't play enough of the game to tell whether their choices were going to have consequences.

Achievements leaked, BTW. So all those people claiming the game's choices aren't important are naturally BTFO.
https://www.exophase.com/game/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2-gog/achievements/

>>723123545
>he's only here to argue just for the sake of arguing
That’s not what he’s doing, he’s acting obtuse for the sake of doing damage control because he is a moronic faggot that is paid to be here by his own admission.

>>723123601
None of the previews played long enough to become sheriff and be capable of taking on sidequests and meeting clan trainers.

>>723123261
Like >>723123556 said, the combination of no quest log and markers on the map means the game designers care even less about the setting or the player being engaged. Accidentally skip a text box and don't know what it said? Who cares, just go to the map marker! If you turn the game off and come back and don't remember what a quest is about? Who cares, just go to the map marker!

It's the worst kind of Skyrim quest design but Skyrim at least gave you notes to read for give what you're doing context.

>>723123676
They matter, you trying to advertise the shitty achievements doesn’t change that. Having what faggot doesn’t die or what cutscene you get isn’t going to change that. Take your retarded nonsense to a bridge and jump.

>DEVELOPER: The Chinese Room

This alone should tell you how shit this game is going to be. Those guys have zero experience with games that have actual gameplay. They make shitty walking sim cutscene "games"

>>723123601
No one played long enough to show how choices actually mattered

>>723123601
>The game's writing is bad but it doesn't have that
>Shill
fucking retard, jfc

>>723123676
NTA, I'm looking through these achievements and they're all either combat based or some kind of arbitrary achievement like glide 75 feet or feed on 30 people without getting caught.

Which of these achievements indicate there are choices that have consequences?

>>723123601
They didn’t get to play long enough so it didn’t get to show what was there

>>723122313
>Lazy vampire
>Make ghoul bring him victims
>One day ghoul brings strange German guy with a massive chiseled jawline.
>"BRENNE IM FEUER DER RECHTSCHAFFENHEIT, YOU DEVIL SPAWN!"
>Vampire is too clumsy and inexperienced to fight or escape
>German guy burns retard vampire to death.
>Cute ghoul chick becomes normal again
>German guy bangs cute chick on the vampire's ashes.
Just go out and hunt.

>>723124069
Hoonter must hoont

>>723123968
They also screwed up the Amnesia series with A Machine for Pigs. It's not like I believe Frictional are free from blame considering they still made trash like Rebirth. But I do still consider The Bunker to be something of a redemption for them.

>>723123567
When all of it are I don't need to prove shit because it just means you're a disingenuous shilling faggot.

>>723114927 (OP)
That's a weird assumption to make given not only this game's development history, but the development and release of its predecessor. If it comes out half baked and needs committed fans to mod it into being functional then it's right on brand.

>>723123906
All games have been made like this for over 10 years.

>>723123516
>He says guns are a thing
first guy is kinda right. there's no gun in the equipment sense. you use telekinesis to hold the gun in front of you and fire for a few seconds. its a glorified temp powerup.

And no, TCR couldn't even bother animating your char holding the gun, and reloading animation may as well be lost tech for them.

>>723124305
You don't need to be this desperate to shit on this game, no one cares about it enough.

>>723124000
Ok so no proof, just seething?
Even the pajeets hired to shill this crap are half-assing it.

>>723124340
Do you think posting old screencaps will make people think you’re not a shill? Because pretending that people are going to like this dumbed down trash made to appeal to normalfags and retards is just asinine. Especially since VtMB got support because the content and base game was good enough for people to give a shit about. Whereas this slop is so bad it needs faggots like you to do damage control daily.

The pajeets spamming and shilling this slop are the most embarrassing i have seen so far

>>723125023
Holy shit dude, you're really invested in this. I'm not a white sheet, project elsewhere spaz.

>>723123676
I never got an answer so let me ask again:
>Which of these achievements indicate there are choices that have consequences?

>>723125279
You will always cry but never say that I’m wrong.
>I'm not a white sheet
I know, you’re browner than shit.

>>723125465
Wrong again, champ. I never said you were wrong just like I never said the game would be good, cuz I'm not a dumbass who forms committed opinions on unreleased games I've never played.

It just looks boring. Don't give a shit about politics or how androgynous the protag is, but the game is just visually boring and has zero atmosphere. The soundtrack I've heard so far also doesn't hold a candle to the original game.
And the way the vampires' look is just so bland, there are no weird clothes, everything looks so sanitized, the only one that comes close to "weird" is one Tremere outfit that just looks like a dark fantasy romance novel cover model.

>>723125696
>Wrong again, champ. I never said you were wrong
Yeah that’s what I said retard. But thanks for further proving you’re a retarded shitskin.

>>723124658
>I was only pretending to be a retard

>>723114927 (OP)
It's going to be another AC Shadows situation.
You guys will keep pretending it's going to be terrible and woke and nobody is interested, and then it comes out and sells well and is well regarded and you will stop talking about it for absolutely no reason.

>>723125748
lol good luck with puberty, chief

>>723125340
All the achievements talking about endings and choices.

>>723124551
Guns were always a temp thing in Bloodlines 2.

>>723125879
BioShock fits better with the crying nerds.

>project deadline is on vtmb2's release day
>we arent behind
>we are in fact ahead of schedule
>high chance I can just finish work and go home to play this game leisurely
should I buy it guys?
Im worried it might suck and I dont want to waste money, but I also want to have spooky fun this hallowweeeeen (dont know how to spell it)
the stars seem aligned for me to play this game, but the development hell this game went through does not bode well.

>>723125882
>gets btfo again after outing himself
>starts seething and coping
This is too easy

>>723126061
There are plenty of games that fit that criteria, I just picked the latest one because it keeps happening, but it's a trend that keeps repeating itself. People here don't understand that this is an echo chamber and that normies give 0 fucks about our usual concerns.

>>723126243
>random post that isn’t replying to anyone
>blatant lie since the game has been in development hell for six years
>asks retarded question to try and farm engagement
>image straight from reddit
Shills really are the lowest form of life.

>>723123387
>skinship
did this get a new meaning when i wasn't looking?