Thread 723118936

so, let's discuss more retro achievements in retro video games, which is a totally bias-free project and focuses on vidya

>>723118936 (OP)
How long 'till the site implodes on itself?

>>723119524
the thing is I think most players don't actually give a fuck, except the retarded lefty posts are pinned on the front page
ironically bringing more attention and flak to the whole thing
if it hadn't been pinned I never would have even heard about any of it and let's be honest, I myself didn't give a single shit about forums (like on Steam, it's a cesspit)

i'm glad your pretend cheevos are dying

I'm not sure if I want to post my masteries as proof but I've been on the site for a few years and even give Scott 1 shekel a month so I have an actual stake in this.
I think the whole thing was handled really badly, and even though I don't really care about Clover or Custer's Revenge being on the site or not, the flip-flopping was the biggest problem. It made them look weak, and like they're caving to vocal minorities on both sides.
I think I more or less agree with the take of one of the leaked admins, I would also like to see it grow and if that means trimming a few titles off on both extremes so be it.

>>723120047
>I'm not sure if I want to post my masteries as proof but I've been on the site for a few years
the fact normal people actually understand the totalitarian threat the jannies pose is enough for the whole thing to implode
ruling by fear is genuinely the worst idea ever, tenfold even if you're trying to build and keep a community alive lmao

Did the last thread get deleted?

>>723120486
I'm not afraid of site admins or mods, it would be unhinged users pestering me for being a 4chan user. Or something

>>723120672
archived from post count

>>723118936 (OP)
Transball says: will you be the first to achieve this prestigious achievement courtesy of our esteemed devjam community?

>>723120047
Then you are apart of the problem if you truly agree with their statement. They don't need to "trim" anything. A simple filter would of solved everything, but no, they decide to make a complete circus around one rom-hack. But now, it's too late for that, at least for me. It's going to take a lot more than a filter system and them un-banning the games they banned for me to come back to the site.

>>723118936 (OP)
https://mega.nz/folder/vlpGVAhR#ysZYtwFb3OjPhKLtUFHbbw The archive Bahamut posted at the end of his pastebin got updated recently with more stuff by the way

I'm out of the loop, what happened?

>>723120814
If the site wants to have legitimacy, and you can't even post screenshots from the game without breaking the TOS of the site, there is an issue there. I'm all for le ebin wehraboo/we wuz kangs memes but you're just not going to see that on any mainstream gaming hub.

>>723121738
trannies got butthurt Pokemon Clover was on RA and admins took it down along with some other games for 'offensive stuff' like custer's revenge
site is going to now start removing any game with offending content in it probably like Mother 3 since it has the magypsies

>>723121738
Trannies threatened people to get their way even using pictures of someone's newborn to do so.

>>723121876
The site shouldn't be aiming for "legitimacy". It's a fan-site .

>>723121738
https://pastebin.com/eBZ0FhBT

>>723121946
>site is going to now start removing any game with offending content in it probably like Mother 3 since it has the magypsies
I'm calling bullshit on this. Unless they start doing shit like scrubbing all Harry Potter games from the site, and then I will be holding a pitchfork with you.

>>723122081
literally is on the table by the way and taken seriously by the faggot admin

>>723119872
This. If I didn't use this website, I would have 1000% been in the dark and ignored their gay forums

>>723122309
Screenshot this, whatever. If that happens I'll delete my account and post @everyone YWNBAW in the d*scord

>>723122081
And by that time the troons inviting in troons will already outnumber you and your pitchfork will mean nothing. People still haven't learned not to give these people an inch. The only way to save the site is ban the bluesky RA users. Otherwise it's dead.

>>723121245
I'll post this again since last thread I did when it was at 500+ posts and page 10 and didn't realize.
One of those html files shows a report of "marioipod13" cheating. TL;DR they found out he is cheating with footage showing they have illegal Pokemon for the generation they are playing and some other stuff. Despite trying their hardest to find them innocent, because of the real problem to them is that the reporter called them a tranny. So they opted to not untrack them despite the clear evidence. You can still see marioipod13 tracked on the site.

Why am I pointing this out? Look at the date, before any of this recent stuff with people blaming solely Scott for bowing down to these sorts of people, their staff were already quite willing.

>>723121946
They say nigger in GTA:SA. They even call people fat. How will they get that around their new hate speech policy?

>>723122490
picrel anon so you understand I'm not even bullshitting you >>>723102836

>>723118936 (OP)
What are some of the most autistic achievements you've come across?

>>723118936 (OP)
Imagine being a zoomer fuckwit and needing shiny banana stickers to play old games.

>>723118936 (OP)
>Custer's Revenge removed
historical erasure

>>723122738
Yes, I saw this too. Scott does seem to be a gullible baby Leftist "getting educated" which sucks but that's still a far cry from him and the other admins reaching a consensus and actually doing that. That would blow up significantly more than a game with KKK pokemon being removed.

>>723122738
What's wrong with Daniel Craig?

>>723120047
this was the totally reasonable statement Scott whined about because he wants to plaster the website in rainbows and all his personal causes he finds compelling. and if he did that it would be the same as this situation. anyone objecting to his "children's charities" (Palestinian charities) would be labelled a far right zionist and banned.

>>723122516
wes is 100% some kind of brown cryptoSJW that tries really hard to pretend not to be one

I can't stop fucking laughing at this man, imagine this being one of the biggest guys behind the censorship going on in the website. Can't fucking believe I've never seen this shit before. https://youtu.be/OrJDjLfgrWc

>>723122810
I think it was OOT was completing the game 100% and hitless

I just thought of something
the average player doesn't give a fuck about this but.... if there is one thing he or she gives a fuck about it's probably the fact that ANY gameset can now be removed
along with all your points/masteries
who the FUCK is going to go and start sinking time into this shit if the ENTIRE point of the site can be invalidated by a hysterical manchild's whims? at any moment for no valid reason

>>723122309
I think they should ban Mother 3. Not only to be consistent with their dumb rules, but also as a Modest Proposal type deal to show how dumb this all is. It would unironically be good for the discussion to put banning M3 on the table.

>>723122516
>the real problem to them is that the reporter called them a tranny.
Really?
>ctrl+f transphob
>0 results
>ctrl+f slur
>0 results
>ctrl+f bigot
>0 results
Nobody mentioned any of that in your 10000 pixel (lmao) leak. They just think it's a bigger problem that someone created a burner account just to file multiple angry reports than immediately banning some random shitter at the bottom of the leaderboard cheating, which makes sense to me.

>>723120047
For this to even satisfy both sides, you'd need to also disallow "He Fucked the Girl Out of Me" and other trans promoting games. All gay shit, out. Especially this one >>723120746
No pronouns allowed. No gender flags on avatars.

>>723123068
wes is an AI drone. you can check his replies in the leaked discord pics and they 100% look like chatgpt responses

>>723123457
>look like
I'm absolutely sure they are

>>723123457
So he's just automating his internal discussions with the staff? lmao

>>723123161
this is the main point of contention for me, my ability to gain achievements in games shouldn't be dictated by social media outrage. today's whatever is tomorrow's pitchforks. i don't see a point in investing any significant amount of time into the platform anymore.

i don't care about Clover in particular but if Scott had objections to the content in the game he should have brought them up before years of hype and requests for it to have a set made and done so because of his own objections and not because he got bullied into doing it. that's soft, weak behavior and just shows he's spineless.

im surprised that one thread on RA is STILL up
>>723123575
in the pastebin BV said wes used AI to scan the Periwinkle script for anything bad which is not the way they do things.
No way this dude is human

>>723123575
i've seen third worlders do this on discord, they put the post they want to make into GPT or something and ask it to rewrite it. sometimes they accidentally leave the "sure, here's your post rewritten" instruction header in their post and have to edit it out lol

>Clover spent 49 months (over 4 years) in the top 20 most requested hacks list
>Wait until after the set releases to get it removed from the site
Quite a epic bit of trolling by Scott if I say so myself (and I do say so.)

>>723123413
The shit stirrers also have to go. Their entire accounts. The tranny flags and the group that started being vocal on the forums. We're not fucking dumb. If they're still on the site they aren't a neutral platform.

>>723123402
Are retarded? Its literally at the top as their first concern about anything, and since when do they care its some bottom of the leaderboard shitter? There are other pages in that leak showing the decision to untrack brand new accounts with 1 game. It's specific protection of someone they would've deleted instantly if not for the fact they are a tranny.
I'll spoon feed you pic related as its not even the case anyway, specifically with the game's leaderboards.

>>723123839
why would anyone waste time making achievements for romhacks now when they'll get removed anytime some insane person on bluesky throws a tantrum over content in the romhack or something the hack developer tweeted. same for investing time in grinding out a romhack.

>>723124026
just don't make achievement sets for racist bigoted transphobic fatphobic sexist ableist microaggressive romhacks, chud

>>723122516
I'm so glad I left that website. I mean, having a discord is never a good sign, but I wasn't aware they were such assholes. To hell with them.

>>723124081
yeah that's today's standard, what about 5 years from now? 10 years from now? what happens when violent video games are problematic and the ick and we can only have achievements for puzzle games? like i know it's a ridiculous hyperbole but the idea of Clover being banned like this would have been ridiculous hyperbole 10 years ago.

>>723122810
Someone mentioned an RE4 one that required you to beat the game at near world record speeds

>>723122516
>guys will you plz stop bullying me and calling me a necrophiliac if I stop using a tripcode :((((
>LOL I'M GOING TO CONTINUE BEING AN IMPENITENT ATTENTIONWHORE WHERE AND WHENEVER POSSIBLE

>>723122516
Concerning.
1. They do not have any experts to contact. No one on the team even plays pokemon. I know one of them personally expresses extreme disdain for pokemon on discord whenever he has the chance.
2. They do not play the games in question to gain an understanding.
3. Some of them are more concerned about a single slur used than actual cheating.
These are the people who decide whether to ban you or not after you've been reported for cheating.

Anyone have the image showing they are aware of /v/'s threads about this and linking the original one after Scott's announcement in their discord? Just want to point this out anyway if you thought they were oblivious to what's happening over here.

Kirby Air Ride will be removed from that website one day because this song is in the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bEZQ00OOxY

Why doesn't he leave?

>>723124274
They abhor Pokemon because an easily available save editor PKhex exists for every pokemon game and they can do fuck all about it even for HC if the player is smart and unlocks things in a non suspicious way, unless you are a tranny it seems.

>>723124543
It's very obvious that they are actively posting in these threads. I'm sure the posts in the other thread about the filter were directly from someone on the staff.

>>723124229
This is the same guy who you're mentioning. Kek.

>>723122516
Bahamut was the only one trying to do his job, what a shitshow.

>>723124623
probably because it's his breadwinner

>>723124780
tele and tomojin were working on dos support and they left kek

>>723123978
>Its literally at the top as their first concern about anything
No. Most of your 10,000 pixels are discussion about cheating. They also mention the series of angry reports focused on one person from a brand new burner account with zero activity.

>It's specific protection of someone they would've deleted instantly if not for the fact they are a tranny.
>if not for the fact they are a tranny.
No such evidence. Your 10,000 pixels has
>0 mentions of transphobia
>0 mentions of slur
>0 mentions of bigot
>0 mentions of problematic
>0 mentions of marginalized
>0 mentions of minority
Nothing.

>get banned for cheating
>from emulator cheevo site
I legitimately don't understand.

>>723122516
I posted this RIGHT before the last thread archived, but that marioipod13 guy is a retarded attentionwhore zoomer that makes stupid falseflag threads about himself on /vp/ and his shit youtube channel all the time. The person that reported him is obviously marioipod13 himself
https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/thread/58330608/#58330608

>>723124543
the only thing i know of is Bahamut mentioning that he was surprised 4chan was being more reasonable than bluesky about the removal of Clover

>>723124886
Man you are far too obvious in this attempt to want them to use specific words as anyone else here is this stupid to not see what they are doing.

>>723123402
Did they took a chunk of your brain when they chopped off your dick? They gave the cheater a pass just because he was called a tranny. One of the mods even said he was hoping the tranny was innocent. They immediately took the cheater's side because of one slur. Meanwhile they'll untrack anyone for anything they post on the forums.

>>723124956
>terms are clearly stated
>cheat anyway, trololololo
>get banned
>"WTF, WHY DID THIS HAPPEN, /V/ROS?!?!?!"

>>723120047
realistically, is there even growth for RA?

>>723122064
man progressives are insane

Guys, don't fall for the self absorbed retard's bait.
>>723125091
There will be growth, when xkeeper inevitably becomes admin and bans everyone who disagrees with him.

>>723124623
Maybe he just wants to play games?

>>723123048
scott shouldn't have a fucking say, the faggot barely is so hardly active, mods have said he's taken years off only until the drama started did he want control back

>>723125286
He hasn't taken years off collecting Patreon bux though he's present for that.

>>723125080
I've never used it. I wouldn't.

>>723123161
This is why I've deleted my profile. Even Gaystation won't remove my trophies and I've spent years swearing at people online. There's no point in using RA if the mods are allowed to remove your badges over some drama. I don't even play Pokémon, what really happened days ago is they just killed RA and most of the players are too stupid to realize that.

>>723125390
But surely you are intelligent enough to know that people hate cheaters in anything even tangentially competitive, right? Having to use an emulator isn't cheating if it's an obvious prerequisite, save editing and Action Replay codes are.

>>723125049
>want them to use specific words
Yeah absolutely, I want evidence they're "being protected because they're a tranny." Any evidence. There was none.

>>723125058
>They gave the cheater a pass just because he was called a tranny.
They didn't immediately ban a random shitter at the bottom of the leaderboard a pass because nobody gives a fuck about a random shitter at the bottom of the leaderboard.
>because he was called a tranny.
Give me any evidence of this.

>>723125045
>Bahamut mentioning that he was surprised 4chan was being more reasonable than bluesky about the removal of Clover
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU BE, BAHAMUT?
LOOK AT ALL THE DELUDED FUCKS ON BLUESKY
LOOK AT ALL THE SHIT THEY SPEW HARDER AND MORE SERIOUSLY THAN WE DO
LOOK AT HOW THEY TOOK YOUR WEBSITE FROM YOU AND STABBED YOU IN THE BACK GLEEFULLY AND WITHOUT ANY HESITATION
DO YOU THINK ALL THE SHIT WE SAY ABOUT THEM IS A LIE?
DO YOU THINK THIS IS A FUCKING GAME TO THEM?
FOR FUCK'S SAKE ALL THESE PEOPLE KEEP BOWING AND BENDING THE KNEE TO INSANE PARASITE PEOPLE WHO DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU AND DON'T PLAY YOUR GAMES AND ARE ROTTEN TO THE CORE AGAIN AND AGAIN AND GET ZERO BENEFIT IN RETURN
WILL THAT NAIVE FOOL EVER GET TO SEE AND READ THIS POST? I DON'T FUCKING KNOW ANYMORE MAN

>>723121245
I always thought Sting was an absolute dickhead from a couple of times I informed him about incorrect achievement unlocks.
>Sting's threats and meltdown.html
>they only keep him around because he is useful
Not even surprised, I'm sure its like this for many achievement set makers too since its all contribution based. Don't want to anger anyone big who makes blatantly retarded achievements because they'll just leave and never contribute again.

>>723125080
i cheated games in softcore, but it was just money in jrpgs. big woop

>>723125574
>winning gold stars for playing gba roms is competitive
I still don't get it.

>>723125943
i hope he realizes the Scott can't even be trusted

>>723126069
>"I jumped from Australia to America using my bare legs!"
>"You sat in a plane and fell asleep for six hours, dude, shut the fuck up."
inb4 hurr durr, still don't get it

>>723125661
>spoonfeed me
I'm not your father. If you can't read between the lines then that's on you. Go 41% yourself.

>>723123109
>https://youtu.be/OrJDjLfgrWc
Holy autism. That explains why every one of his arguments is just "uhh... you're bigoted and a nazi."

>>723125943
People are already saying 'guys we should just move on with this and pretend it didn't happen' like we didn't see these evil tranny accounts post on the official forums and bluesky and we should just carry on like nothing happened and they're just part of the site now. You cannot fully grasp how fucking spineless some people are.

>>723126434
>>723126237
Somebody link him the threads here already

>>723122810
Castlevania romhacks were filled with BS. Also some of the official games.

isn't it funny how much hate troons create, so much so they keep digging their own graves (in more ways than one)?

Video games?

>>723126743
are being threatened yes.

>>723123109
you see how totally unlikeable he is and it all falls into place why he's like this lol. i campaign against "bigots and nazis" so i'm a Good person, i'm on the Right Side Of History so anything i do is Good!

>>723126743
Video game culture, actually

>>723126401
So eager to type until asked to produce literally any evidence whatsoever.

>>723118936 (OP)
I've been playing Yoshi's Island with retroachievements, I haven't looked into the list yet so I don't know if there any super retarded achievements.

>>723122810
Empire Strikes Back for Atari 2600 apparently requires you to spend about 7 hours in a single sitting to get all the achievements.

>>723124727
>>723124229
>uses a woody woodpecker avatar
>it says take it up your ass
>Brazilian
He is absolutely beyond aware what he is doing and taking the absolute piss.
t. Brazilian

They fucked with GAMERS

They finally got tired me commenting under all of their posts lol

>>723127020
To be fair one of the starters is a suicide bomber that is middle eastern themed. The game is edgy, in a funny way.

>>723127009
you knew too much

>>723126934
people check the list beforehand if they care about getting all the achievements for a set, some people don't give a fuck

>>723127207
One of the funny things is that they only post the website announcements on their BlueSky now instead of Twitter. They only post about event stuff on Twitter and nothing else lol

this thread reminded me that I have a rom of Clover with a nude mod
does anyone know where that came from? I don't even know what version of Clover it is

>>723126934
SMW2 is mostly comprised of 100%ing every level and minor challenges for secret subareas

>>723127337
guess if anyone wants to make a throwaway then they can post the leaks there instead lol

>>723127464
Post it.

>>723127009
hi CakeBananaCake :)

>>723127337
The fact they have a bluesky account means RA isn't neutral. That would be like announcing shit on truth social. An account there is already in the fray picking a position. The fact they don't see that and think it's okay to have a bluesky account is how they were blind enough to end up here.

>>723127564
Hello :)

>>723126683
why does he lie so much

>>723118936 (OP)
>mid to late 2000s tranny gimmick, but le retro
r*ddit garbage

>>723127848
>gimmick
xbox dying doesn't mean shit's gone away

>>723127794
Pretty sure he's a bong

>>723127962
fuck xbox, fuck wow and fuck steam

>>723127584
Of course. I mean look who runs their Community posts.

>>723127584
trvke

>>723127982
Yep. He worked at Rare at one point

>>723127490
Sounds pretty reasonable then

>>723128027
I would expect someone with a loli icon to be at least semi-cool

>>723123109
>>723126804
>>723126420


It gets worse the more I look into this guy

>>723128027
>>723128119
if only you guys knew

>>723128012
>playstation okay by means of omission
>individual nintendo games okay by means of omission
lol

>>723128027
This dude (?) is weird. He seemed genuinely pissed off at Scott caving to the troons and wanted to keep Clover on the site, at least that's what I remember from the leaked screenshots. But he has a bluesky account and is one of the mods on that screenshot about investigating some IPs sent to them by xkeeper, so I don't know what to think.

>>723128212
undercover nazi, two-faced bitch. that's all you need to know

>>723128172
Have a day, I suppose.

>>723128212
Yeah some people swear by him as being one of the better members of the site, but every time I saw him post whether it be on the site or other ones, I never had a high opinion of him.

>>723126934
atari achievements are deceptively hard, like hours of grinding the same giant pixels.

>>723127131
he cute

>>723128204
just jewgled and it seems like goytendo doesn't have achievements, fuck söyny I guess

>>723128119
lol
lmao

>>723128303
Utterly insane individual, midwit pheno too.
Someone needs to compile the shit he does so he can't be accepted into any other community again.

>>723128203
Qrd?

>>723128172
What a fucking dork. He has the exact phenotype I expected for being such an asshole in how every post reads. People like this are always ugly and gross inside and out.

>>723128203
Elaborate.

>>723128715
>>723128936
the last thing i want to do is add more fuel to the drama. just believe me when i say most mods are closer to (Your) beliefs than not

>>723128971
I truly want to believe that. But i have yet to see any evidence to support that. But as you have seen, some of those leaked screenshots paint a different picture.

>>723129038
the leaked screenshots are from the official moderator discord. take that as you will

>>723128027
That guy was always against removing Clover and still says he disagrees with the censorship but all you guys care about is superficial drama

>>723129094
I'm aware. What's your point?

>>723128971
I was watching a vod from some guy on twitch ranting about it and he seemed to say the same thing, that the mods don't agree with scott but basically got overruled.

>>723128971
And yet none of you will do anything except wait for this to blow over so who really cares. The flashpoint is here and now. This is not the time to keep your head down because there is no second momentum shift after the outcome settles here.

>>723128971
Okay. Any chance of Scott really going back on his decision, implementing filters and restoring the banned games? Hypothetically of course.

>>723129123
If he disagrees so much, why hasn't he left the site. All I see is him hiding announcement posts on BlueSky instead of posting them on Twitter. Yes, I saw him disagree with the decision to ban Clover, among others as well, but he's still working on the site anyway.

>>723129237
Yeah, this whole wait til it blows over crap isn't going to work, at least not for me. I won't forget.

>>723129279
No. The community and the frightened mods need to make this entire experience so unpleasant for Scott he quits. And then has a permanent blacklist in the retro community. He will not reverse his course. Unpleasant social pressure is all you have to convince him.

>>723128280
Not really.

>>723128280
lol nigger

>>723129491
hi nepiki

should i even bother continuing to earn cheevos on this platform at this point? there's no alternative which sucks

>>723129191
That's exactly what Bahamut says in his pastebin, so it should be true.

>>723128971
these threads are full of tourists who don't know shit about any of this. most of them don't even know about the initial announcement from last week. they probably just learned RA even exists

>>723129491
Hello Nepiki :)

>>723129563
ra mods are constantly monitoring here/bsky/kiwifarms. it's clear to me with
>>723129491
>>723129529
one of their little side servers found this thread. the entire website is just cancer. can't wait until it collapses

>>723129553
No
>>723129563
Not inaccurate, but without any avenues to talk about it without it being privated or deleted, people really don't have any choice.

>>723129542
>>723129591
I have an account on RA but I'm not Nepiki. Take another shot in the dark if you want.

>>723129279
>Any chance of Scott really going back on his decision, implementing filters and restoring the banned games?
Scott recently said he was "completely in favour" of filters over bans, but whether that will translate to any actual changes is pure speculation at this point.

>>723129689
>one of their little side servers found this thread
LOL good I hope them troons are crying and shitting their diapers
get fucked niggers you will be purged :)

>>723129563
yeah because last week i was just earning achievements in my favorite games so i didn't even know it was going on until i saw a thread here and thank god i did or i would still be grinding away

>>723129742
starting to think /v/ is extremely retarded

>>723129732
i don't believe a word that fag says, but it would be so fucking funny to see xkeeper seethe over clover getting added back

>>723122810
Digimon World 1 wants you to evolve to every single Digimon which takes a minimum of like 60 or 70 hours even if you know the exact paths just because of having to wait for them all to die off.
Devil May Cry 1 wants you to beat every single difficulty with S ranks on every single stage with easier difficulties not being retroactive if I remember right. Meanwhile the platinum just requires you to beat DMD at all because it knows DMD is already difficult enough let alone Sing every single stage of DMD.
Castlevania: Circle of the Moon wants you to do like five full playthroughs using each of the different filenames even though there is barely any gameplay difference to speak of.
Golden Sun: Dark Dawn wants you to do a 100% run that requires you to be glued to a completion guide or it's not possible due to how much is missable and how many items are hidden in maps that are impossible to enter again after certain points in the game.
Megaman Legends at one point had everything in its bonus subset as part of the main list which included beating the final boss on the hardest difficulty using just your melee weapon while you die in one hit. It's a 20 minute battle.
Megaman Legends 2 wants you to beat every boss at the hardest difficulty with starting equipment while you get one-tapped even though the rest of the list is perfectly fine.
Literally every single Pokemon romhack wants you to complete the dex which can sometimes mean hundreds of hours of grinding to do so. Even the SWSH remake romhack wants you to get all 800 something Pokemon for it if I remember right. They also always want you to be some autist that loves mastering the Battle facilities to absurd degrees.
Pokemon Gold and Silver 97 (The Spaceworld recreation romhack) wants you to beat the entire game with Nyanya (The psychic Meowth baby form) for some absurd reason. They also want you to do all of the gym rematches with one single Pokemon without going to a Pokecenter.

Just to name a few.

>>723129796
>starting

>>723129796
pray tell, what are you crying about?

>>723130005
>not being able to think
>immediately think of trannies when you try to form a coherent thought

>>723129725
That really doesn't narrow it down. I mean even Xkeeper has an account lol

>>723130058
I mean when they are actively destroying a website by being pests. Of course he would be talking about trannies

>>723130058
lmao nice gaslighting attempt nigger
literal AXEWOUND TROONS have been trying to kickstart this whole thing, you ain't sweeping that one under the rug, breaindead faggot :)
don't forget to kill yourself

>>723130123
>>723130127
rent free. sorry not sorry for being hot as fuck

>>723130208
Hello xkeeper

>>723129903
>Literally every single Pokemon romhack wants you to complete the dex which can sometimes mean hundreds of hours of grinding to do so.
Is it actually hundreds of hours though? I thought they allowed speeding up the game even in hardcore.

>>723130208
bait used to be believable

>>723130249
Speeding up doesn't change certain Pokemon having ridiculous requirements like Munchlax in Emerald unless you're using RNG manipulation or Feebas as quick examples. If I remember right for the SWSH romhack that has everything up to gen 9 it also has like 10-20 Pokemon per route or something like that so you're coin flipping for hours.

As a game dev, adding achievements to games designed without them in mind is genuinely angering and mental illness in my eyes. Fuck off with that shit let them be
Your newer games are so stagnant and garbage that you need to ruin older ones. At no point should I respect you or anything about what you do

And if it wasnt bad enough the stupid broon bullshit injecting itself into every possible thing and creating drama and fighting over something this stupid only reinforces the stance that you should not be humored and shunned.

>>723130519
YWNBAW

>Achievement: Complete Level 1
>Achievement: Complete Level 2
>Achievement: Complete Level 3
>Achievement: Complete Level 4
>Achievement: Complete Level 5

WOW THE GAME IS RUINED

>>723130635
erm sweaty? you should only play the way I say you can (that is to say not play vidya at all)

>Achievement: Beat Secret Boss
>Achievement: Witness Secret Scene
>Achievement: Beat Game Under Challenging Conditions
THIS IS LITERALLY GENOCIDE TO GAMEDEVS

>>723130341
I don't think there are too many bullshit Pokemon in the mainline games like Munchlax or Feebas though, right? With speed up I think completing a dex could be comfy. I'd be surprised if it took more than 20 real world hours but maybe I'm underestimating something.

>>723130901
There are some odd ones that have a 1% encounter rate like Chancy in Gold and Silver. (maybe it was Crystal?) But, the Safari Zone is usually the most obnoxious thing to deal with in the mainline games.

>>723130620
good, i like my cock and being a man. keep your tranny bullshit out of the workplace

>>723130901
On the early games it's mostly fine, but the further you get into the series the more you have to collect and the more you need to jump through hoops. In gen 1 the worst is something like Porygon's grind at the casino but then you get to gen 3 and now Munchlax honey farming and Feebas pixel hunting is what you have to do. You also have to keep in mind every game has multiple 1% encounter rate Pokemon which gets worse the higher up you go, especially in romhacks.

I just did Super Mariomon recently and a 100% playthrough was about 130ish hours, and that's something with just 151 Captures and that game had quite a few 1% spawn rates.

>>723131121
Show us your game "game dev".

It kinda feels like the controversy is fizzling out and nothing positive will come out of this, unfortunately. I was hoping for a fork, but I don't think it'll happen after all.

>>723131381
you're right we should register for bluesky and donate to Palestinian charities

>>723131381
Yeah, I was hoping for a fork as well, but if Tele is not doing it, then I don't anyone who would that left RA

>>723131381
oh well we can still let scott know he's a spineless piece of shit every day for the rest of his life

>>723131381
>>723131457
What would a fork possibly achieve? None of your progress would be kept between the sites, you'd have no one to actually fix blatant issues with the achievement lists because devs are on the official site, you'd have no official emulator support because you'd also have to convince them to support your log in system alongside R-A, you'd have to start from scratch when it comes to new achievement list devs, etc.

>>723131565
if the site has APIs you can definitely port progress over

>>723131565
I wouldn't really care if I had to start over. I mean my account was deleted, so I would of had to start over anyway.

>>723131381
no one fucking cares about this dumbass bullshit is why, it's pure culture war nonsense attached to achievements which were always faggot shit, so two kinds of crap no one should ever care about

>>723131565
>what would a fork possible achieve?
having achievement logic use proper endianess so we can use it on ares, the superior multi-emulation app

>>723131672
why are you here then?

>>723131672
YWNBAW

>>723131565
i could make achievement sets and/or achieve in games and not have to worry about bluesky deciding that i shouldn't be allowed to play that game

>>723131672
kill yourself FUD tranny

They should have just included a way to filter out content that would've gotten peoples knickers in a twist on-site like Custer's and Clover instead of nuking them, fucking retarded.
What you playing, anons? I'm working on SMW mastery after not playing the game in ages, Crash 1 is being a ballache so I don't know if I have the patience to get all the gems.

>>723131812
Nothing :)

>>723131812
AHEM

>>723131565
I wrote about a different idea in the last thread.
>>723101968

>>723131812
anon.. you left identifying info in your image. mods are gonna ban your ass so quick

>>723131887
smart anon gg mastering this piece of shit game

Some anon kept posting about getting banned for having certain anime on his MAL list lol. Is there anything in the leak about that, or was that guy full of shit?

>>723131996
>smart anon gg mastering this piece of shit game
I love it :)

>>723131381
there will be no fork, but there may actually be some good developments coming from what I heard, we'll see

>>723131968
decentralization is the only way but mods are too busy clout chasing and trying to gain the most users. i miss when the internet was about sharing shit on open standards instead of everyone trying to run their own business

>>723131996
Probably not, I didn't do anything. But you made me paranoid lmao.

>>723131165
Finding Feebas isn't bad at all. There's multiple methods online of identifying which tiles it can be found at via your trainer ID. There's also a tool online for Munchlax, but it's still at a 1% rate making it far more of a grind than Feebas

>>723132164
it's easy to look at the last several players of a game and by sharing your masteries with the time it took, mods can narrow you down super easy. if you've seen the leaks, play time and mastery time are often used to sus out cheaters. it's not a qol feature, just another tool to weed out people they don't like

>>723131887
Never played Donkey Kong 64 but I hear people talk shit about it all the time. Good on you though.

>>723132303
it's because it's a very expansive collectathon, but you don't even need to collect that much to be able to beat the game
101'ing the game though is where it gets rough
the achievement set also has a lot of hitless bosses, included the final boss which has 5 whole phases and you sure WILL get hit many times until you manage hitless

>>723132095
For what it's worth, RA is open source, so on an intrinsic technical level it's not all about maximum clout.
I agree that decentralization is preferable, that's why I wrote my idea, but there are also plenty of obvious benefits to centralization as well.

>>723132292
Ah I've only seen some screenshots here and haven't read the leaks in-depth but I know there's a lot of weird shit going on behind the scenes, doesn't surprise me.

>>723132405
Makes sense. Good job on the hitless challenges, those can be a pain in the ass in some games.

>>723132095
it's so fucking irritating how everyone always has their hand open begging for money on the internet now

>>723132303
it's kind of a quantity over quality collectathon, not terrible but i think it's aged a little worse compared to its peers.

>>723131968
Decentralization rids the achievements of their worth to most people who do it as a mix of showing off and doing them. It also completely rids them of their value because you could very likely find some way to cheat them in if you stop regulating it as hard by keeping them online-only. Having the lists as downloads still means there needs to be a centralized place where the achievements are created, and it also means websites would have multiple lists of the same game causing many lists to have no real worth to many people.

It just doesn't make sense as a system.

>>723132557
thank you :)

>>723132678
RA's already ridiculously easy to cheat lol so that excuse doesn't work here. they have to manually review cheat reports and it's not even a dozen people (even less now with the resignations)

>>723132678
You can already cheat them. Someone made a recompile of Retroarch that circumvents the Hardcore restrictions like save states and such. It's Linux-only though.

>>723132678
>Decentralization rids the achievements of their worth to most people who do it as a mix of showing off and doing them.
You could still show them off. If you just want to brag to your friends, you'd still have local records. You could also connect to a server as well, though none would be as monolithic as RA.

>It also completely rids them of their value because you could very likely find some way to cheat them in if you stop regulating it as hard by keeping them online-only.
Yeah, you'd only really be "competing" with people you trust. If some random person claimed to complete a set under my system, you'd be skeptical, but if your friend did, you'd probably believe them, right?
I guess servers could try to implement their own anti-cheat too.

>Having the lists as downloads still means there needs to be a centralized place where the achievements are created
Right, I think the trickiest part would definitely be set distribution and QA. I think there'd necessarily have to be some level of centralization for that reason.

>and it also means websites would have multiple lists of the same game causing many lists to have no real worth to many people.
Not necessarily. Sets could be hashed, so people can distinguish between different sets. This also lets people use older or alternative sets for a game if they want without relying on an authorized canonical version, though obviously a server would be able to decide which sets they recognize.

cmon tele, fork RA

did he ever send anyone server invites? i posted a long time ago requesting an invite but never got one

>>723133159
all i'd really want is some ability to ping for aggregate stats like completion stats and comments, everything else is totally superfluous to me.

>>723133578
i was in the last 2 threads and i never saw any discord links.

>>723133578
people were saying they did make a server but apparently tele quit and the server got deleted or something? might just have been a larp though

>>723133578
Apparently tele abandoned it according to some people on kiwifarms, but they did not provide a source

>>723133159
>You could still show them off. If you just want to brag to your friends, you'd still have local records.
Sure, but for a lot of people it's also literally that meme of showing everyone you did it, not just your friends. I personally just do it for myself and don't care about other's opinions but many people take them seriously and you would basically remove those tryhards that want to go after the leaderboard. It also effectively removes legitimacy of the lists.
>You could also connect to a server as well, though none would be as monolithic as RA.
That's the issue though. RA -is- this system. Other decentralized sites will not have the legitimacy of it. Steam achievements as a whole are already viewed as worthless because of how easy it is to cheat them and that's "official", now imagine if I told you you could earn Steam achievements on EGS or Origin or Ubisoft Connect because the games have the same lists.
>Sets could be hashed, so people can distinguish between different sets. This also lets people use older or alternative sets for a game if they want without relying on an authorized canonical version
Which most people wouldn't like because it's even more arbitrary what set is worth considering.

>>723133639
>>723133648
oh well not a big deal, just wanted to be able to chat with RA users without a bunch of faggots posting as well

I read in these threads that some turbosperg named Xkeeper is deeply involved in both this faggotry and some faggotry that happened with TCRF not long ago. I haven't read TCRF in a while but did they memoryhole any shit the ResetTroons always mald about, ie censored lewds in Western releases? I've read quite a while ago that there were some mentally ill homosexuals against recording such information on that site.

>>723133851
it absolutely is xkeeper. and the mods keep shutting down anyone who mentions the fact that he started all this drama. i didn't know who this faggot was before he shoved his head in our space and a quick google search was all that was needed to know he is a colossal fag who always starts drama in every community he pokes his tranny head in. mods should've banned and blocked his ass instead of caving like pussies

>>723118936 (OP)
I have a really shit take here, please bare with me.
I love achievements on my Xbox and playstation. I love signing in and comparing them against my friends.
I like to see how far they got, or which games they liked enough to finish, or even how dedicated they are to get the hardest ones.
I, also, like striving for completion on games that I like.

Now, you'd think that'd carry over to my retro and emulators. But it doesn't.
I just don't feel the same way, and I don't know why.

>>723130867
Achievements are meant to give the following:
Marking progress
Informing players about possible missed content
Giving ideas about alternative methods of playing the game

All of these are objectively good things.

>>723133578
the first server was made by BahamutVoid but failed because he left
tele made another server, but random anons were never invited, it was for people on RA

>>72313456
I kind of feel the same, and it just boils down to the real game devs designining achievements/trophies vs some random autist I guess, emulators already feel fake as it is too

>>723133639
>all i'd really want is some ability to ping for aggregate stats like completion stats and comments, everything else is totally superfluous to me.
That'd depend on a central server. Servers could theoretically pool stats together if they wanted too.
Comments for sets are a necessity, so I guess wherever the central set distributor would also need to allow for comments too. Distribution and QA would be tricky.

>>723133754
>I personally just do it for myself and don't care about other's opinions but many people take them seriously and you would basically remove those tryhards that want to go after the leaderboard.
A decentralized system would still allow for someone to host a server with their own leaderboard and anti-cheat measures. A server could even be much more rigorous and selective, like a private tracker. That could have even more appeal to tryhards, like the private competitive CounterStrike ladders. But until things like that are established, I agree, the system I'm proposing has less appeal to the people who seriously care about leaderboards.

>RA -is- this system. Other decentralized sites will not have the legitimacy of it.
I disagree. I think servers that aim for establishing that kind of legitimacy have options, like going the private tracker route.

>Which most people wouldn't like because it's even more arbitrary what set is worth considering.
I think people would be able to decide whether a set is worthwhile based on its achievements, and also generally agree on the rough value of different sets for a game based on sets' constituent achievements. Like I said QA could be an issue, so one implementation of an achievement might inadvertently permit something that another wouldn't.
For people who opt for a server-based experience, their server would choose the specific set(s), so everyone on the server could compete for the same thing.

>>723134567
Because it's not "official", there are no standards for how achievement lists should be done (and no, I don't mean the "unfavorable concepts" stuff, I mean actual standards), and isn't as aggressive at stopping cheaters to legitimize it.

Sony and Microsoft have systems in place which outright ban PSN and Microsoft accounts if caught cheating trophies because it means they hacked their Playstations or Xboxes. They also have standards for their lists, their lists respect player time for the most part, and
PC achievements aren't taken seriously because you can convert console saves to PC version saves and they're recognized which unlock achievements, you can use things like Cheat Engine or SAM to unlock stuff, you can use shared save files to unlock stuff, mods can allow you to unlock stuff, console commands exist, and you're not punished on any platform for doing it. That's not even getting into the fact that every system has its own system and people just barely consider Steam's stuff "okay" whereas EGS, Origin, Ubisoft Connect, and GOG may as well not exist as achievement platforms. PC achievements are by far the most useless things to exist.

At least 80% of the lists on RA would be thrown out of the room in the concept phase if being released on actual systems because of how they only cater to people who have spent hundreds of hours on a game, are willing to dedicate hundreds of hours of attempts grinding things, or are willing to guide game the entire way. I gave the example earlier but go compare DMC1's list on RA to the official list. Hell, go compare the Suidoken lists to the official ones. The official ones are how they should be done, and half the RA achievements should be thrown into a bonus subset that only the autists play.

I think the worst aspect about RA is how they have the audacity to defend the bad or ridiculous achievements by saying "You don't need to master the game" or "That's why it's called Beaten, not Mastered".

>>723135084
Call me a stupid retard here, but one of the bigger draws to the Xbox Ally X is that my achievements and saves can carry between the two devices on supported games.

Anyone who says that a central achievement authority isn't important on some level is just as retarded as I am.

>>723135084
Whoops, forgot to finish a though.
>...their lists respect player time for the most part, and
they also consolidate everything to their ecosystem. They also make sure that their achievements and trophies are reasonable to do for most people who have spent maybe a couple dozen or a hundred hours in the game.

Just compare
https://retroachievements.org/game/2606
to
https://psnprofiles.com/trophies/5223-resident-evil-4
It's the difference between a 90+ hour affair or two playthroughs and some side objectives.

Developers have learned that no hit, speedrun, multiplayer, missables, and grinding (Like "Seriously") achievements should not be done. Those are pretty much basic go-tos for RA lists.

>>723135286
Nah, that's a completely valid point. You're also in the Xbox ecosystem which means you have official Xbox achievements that the developers themselves created for the games giving them the legitimacy.

>>723135462
https://www.xboxachievements.com/game/mega-man-9/achievements/
https://www.xboxachievements.com/game/mega-man-10/achievements/
these 2 are heavy inspiration for why RA makes the sets they make. i see them pop up many times when users complain about no-hit, speedrun, etc.
>well, mega man 9/10 did it!
so blame crapcom for solidifying the idea i guess

>>723135462
>>723135613
I loved Megaman 9 and 10
Those perfection achievements can suck a fat fucking dick.
I got maybe one or two of those type before noping out. I realized that I was just not having fun anymore.

I hate achievements, and I hate culture war drama!
>enters achievement culture war drama thread

>>723135286
>Anyone who says that a central achievement authority isn't important on some level is just as retarded as I am.
A central achievement authority is definitely important if you really value confirming achievements' legitimacy or want to compete with others.
I just imagine a world where there'd be more than one, kinda like Xbox achievements and Playstation trophies. Imagine if Xbox and Playstation synced your achievements. Some servers could work together to sync your progress, or they could accept porting your progress in from other whitelisted servers. Maybe a server would be really permissive and don't care about validation at all. But the point is people would have different options, including no server and fully local-only.

>>723134892
>A decentralized system would still allow for someone to host a server with their own leaderboard and anti-cheat measures.
The problem is that that server is the equivalent of you going to like EGS or GOG for your achievements. Do you view those as good as Steam ones for instance? Even if you do, most people don't. It's just splintering things and making them care less because barely anyone cares about them or are in such a small, insular community no one but those in that community care.
>I think servers that aim for establishing that kind of legitimacy have options, like going the private tracker route.
Legitimacy will only exist on that server and will not be taken as legitimate on other servers. Again, EGS and GOG are examples where the achievements are 1:1 to Steam lists but most people do not view them as "legit" when done on EGS or GOG.
>I think people would be able to decide whether a set is worthwhile based on its achievements
The thing is that requires more steps than just having one central authority that decides it that the community can complain about. Having seven lists of FFVII that you can do on different sites is worse than having just one list on RA.

>>723135613
Which they haven't done in many games since because they got flak for it.
https://psnprofiles.com/trophies/3802-mega-man-legacy-collection
Even the Legacy Collection has none of it, it just has boss challenges accessed form a separate menu and simply wants you to beat the game.

This is like saying all Halo games going forward need LASO achievements because Halo 3 did it. Meanwhile the Mythical/LASO achievements are the most hated in the community because streamers are like the only ones who can reasonably obtain them. Or that more games need garbage like the Lost Planet lists because they had those stupid achievements at one point. Or that we need more games to be like Bullet Witch with its five playthroughs due to all the difficulties just to pad out playtime.

>>723135756
To be honest, this is probably the best discussion I've seen on the internet about this subject.

Reminder that Scott worked on the Texas Chainsaw Massacre game so he deserves every last fucking ounce of hate he gets.

>>723118936 (OP)
So like uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh why don't you just uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh copy RetroAchievements and make your own site. Like it's all open source, innit. As long as you don't make the classic fuckup of being hardcore politicized on the other side of the horseshoe instead of resetting things back to actually neutral + have a spine, you'd probably do well. What's the problem? No money for a web server?

>>723136195
Is it that bad?

>>723136195
Back to your schizo /vm/ thread with you. Back, I say.

>>723131565
>what could it possibly achieve?
>you'd have to like, do all this work
So?

>>723136474
Gun media makes games then after a couple months they hand them to dogshit mobile game developers who run the game into the ground.
On a monthly patch one time it was ONE change to fix the reflection of a puddle under a car and that was it and it completely bricked the fucking game and made it unplayable for a month straight.

>>723136195
>>723136474
the individual developers/code monkeys who actually made the game possible weren't really the problem, it was the retarded "idea guys" faggots running the game ignoring all criticism.

>i really hate these evil nazi chuds
>the one who threatened to doxx him, deplatform and posted pictures of kids of people who disagreed was the offended side
is this guy mentally retarded? why is defending the people who quite literally want to fuck him over openly

>>723135835
>that server is the equivalent of you going to like EGS or GOG for your achievements.
Mostly true, unless they implemented their own anticheat. EGS and GOG allow cheating for achievements, right? It's no different than Steam or Ubisoft, as you mentioned previously. If a server implemented means of verification, they would garner legitimacy.

>Legitimacy will only exist on that server and will not be taken as legitimate on other servers.
Not true. Private trackers usually fully acknowledge and respect ratios you maintain on completely separate trackers. Sometimes during registration, it's even a requirement. The trackers are fully independent, but they treat each other as legitimate.
A similar thing exists in CounterStrike. There's the public ladder, and then there's FACEIT, there's ESEA, and more. A rank earned on FACEIT wouldn't be ignored when you play on ESEA.
With achievements, of course, different servers would have different levels of legitimacy, but legitimacy would be transferable. If two servers were both equally reputable, a set earned on either would carry equal legitimacy.

>Having seven lists of FFVII that you can do on different sites is worse than having just one list on RA.
I imagine there'd probably be a "most popular" version of a set adopted by the majority of servers. At worst, the basic lists wouldn't vary that much, they'd have mostly the same achievements.
I think it's better because it gives players more freedom for which specific set they want to run. Maybe they prefer an older set for whatever reason, or mod in their own achievements into a set, or even mod some bullshit out. Servers might not recognize that specific set, but they would be able to run it locally offline.

I think the amount of people who don't care at all about being part of an achievement leaderboard is generally underestimated.

how does this affect me as someone that doesnt use the forums at all?

Oh so it's double Scott's fault then?

>>723136723
Multiple set makers have left that are huge contributors and multiple games have been pulled so there's going to be a lot less sets being released.

>>723136590
So people would have to start anew or if not anew they'd be with this mishmash of legacy RA achievements and your new achievements, you'd always be viewed as the outlier platform, you'd have way less support as a whole because now you've split developers between both platforms, and you'd have a legitimacy crisis as a site. The work isn't the issue, the results of that work are.

It's like making Bluesky because you don't like Twitter. Do people use Bluesky? Yes, but it's a fringe group that primarily just uses Twitter anyway.

>>723136723
Certain games will not be allowed to have achievements made for them because they're controversial and it's entirely arbitrary what can or can't be put on there. They've also removed lists that have already been developed like Custer's Revenge because you rape a native.

>>723136474
>>723136643
see
>>723136762

>>723136821
>blah blah blah more lack of confidence shit
Booooooooo
So you're saying there's no reason to do it if you're not a FUCKING PUSSY

>>723136857
right, Sumo were the ones who actually built the game, but Gun are the ideas guys who do all the deicisionmaking. they're hilariously incompetent and the reason for the game's failure. Sumo are just one of these devfarms that work on games at the behest of other people, it's all very low level people, Scott is like the equivalent of a manager at an Office Depot or Best Buy or something.

>>723136821
>rape
It's clearly consensual. There's even a role-reversed version.

>>723137068
Gun isn't the one who put the pressure valve right at the bottom of the well on Slaughterhouse or thought it was a good idea to ignore all feedback about rushing being retarded.

All this tranny espionage is pretty much just like those church moms in the 90s, right guys?

>>723136716
>EGS and GOG allow cheating for achievements, right?
Yes, but the point here is that despite EGS, GOG, Ubisoft, and EA App all having their own achievement systems the lists are still identical to Steam's, yet they're viewed as less legitimate than Steam's. No one cares about them compared to Steam (Which people already don't care about but that's besides the point). You can go after them but no one will take you seriously, or even outright dismiss you for it.
>Private trackers usually fully acknowledge and respect ratios you maintain on completely separate trackers.
In this example the entire reason why an alternative to RA would be made is to include games they deem "wrong". Why would RA acknowledge the new T&A site that allows Pokemon Clover and Custer's Revenge to interface with it?
>The trackers are fully independent, but they treat each other as legitimate.
You're viewing this as the service, I'm talking about the community. The community would not view you as legitimate but an offshoot/Chinese copy. Mega Bloks work with Legos but don't view Mega Bloks as legitimate as Legos. Does that make any sense? To the community what you're bringing to the table is a fake. You'd have to create a centralized achievement server and the sites would be used to decide what list is "official" for their site, but even then people would still likely only consider RA the "official" unofficial achievement site.
>I think the amount of people who don't care at all about being part of an achievement leaderboard is generally underestimated.
They obviously exist, but a lot of people also want some online way of viewing their account and showing off. Even on the console side most people play online, not with local accounts and sync trophies/achievements.

>>723137131
I thought the whole argument was it was rape which is why it was removed? Were they pushing for the colonialism angle then? I'm only a bit versed on what it is so my bad.

>>723135835
>Having seven lists of FFVII that you can do on different sites is worse than having just one list on RA.
Also, you probably wouldn't sign up on all the different servers. Most people would probably sign up for one, so the experience would be no different than RA.
Or, I just thought of this now, maybe you could connect to multiple servers simultaneously and run sets in parallel. That could help a little with the QA issue too, since you could quickly test multiple sets at once.

>>723136723
Fewer and less frequent new sets. Otherwise, nothing.

>>723137251
>Also, you probably wouldn't sign up on all the different servers. Most people would probably sign up for one, so the experience would be no different than RA.
Right, but those servers would still be seen as offshoots of RA and less "official" since RA was the first. A lot of people would also view them as fairly redundant because they don't really offer much that's different compared to RA. Private Trackers work because the userbase is creating different torrents and has different hordes of content whereas in this instance you'd be different sites choosing to legitimize certain sets.
>Or, I just thought of this now, maybe you could connect to multiple servers simultaneously and run sets in parallel.
RA can't even get subsets to run at the same time as normal sets and require an entirely other patched version to do so, I don't know how viable that would actually be.

>>723136723
Expect to see more pride flags and other forms of signalling around the site and its future (current >>723120746 ) sets.

>>723137180
yes they are, because they ALWAYS rejected legitimate criticism about game balance. every time someone brought up issues like that they'd huff and roll their eyes and passive aggressively insult the person criticizing them.

>>723137646
Wasn't Gun the main reason why Bubba was always forced to be a character and it took them like a year and a half to renege on that because they refused to acknowledge some people didn't want to be forced to play Bubba?

>>723137234
You assume RA is the standard just because it is now. It shit the bed. It is until it isn't. There's clearly interest and enough people who want the bluesky trannies gone to oust it as the standard. Not on day one but every failing industry leader is the biggest until the day they aren't. And they've already done all the work compiling the achievements they need to just be taken now and put in a new community.

>>723137234
>Why would RA acknowledge the new T&A site that allows Pokemon Clover and Custer's Revenge to interface with it?
RA wouldn't, I was referring to servers under my proposed system.

>The community would not view you as legitimate but an offshoot/Chinese copy. Mega Bloks work with Legos but don't view Mega Bloks as legitimate as Legos. Does that make any sense?
It does, but I don't think it's applicable here. I don't think the brand legitimacy argument works because RA stands alone, there are no alternatives.
If a server implemented anti-cheat measures, especially if they were more onerous than RA (such as implementing selective or screened admission), people could trust achievements verified on that server. Eventually, they might even see achievements earned on those types of servers as even more legitimate than RA.

>but a lot of people also want some online way of viewing their account and showing off. Even on the console side most people play online, not with local accounts and sync trophies/achievements.
You're probably right. I suspect the majority don't care about the leaderboard, but the majority probably also care about an online record that they can show off.

>>723137721
yes, during the first week or two of launch it was a big problem and one of Gun's idea guys "devs" literally said it was a "skill issue" that stuns were so freely available that playing LF wasn't fun because you just got bullied in the basement until the victims finally left. there was literally zero recourse for this as Leatherface, you have no way to deal with being coordinated chain stunned like that.

they were like this about EVERYTHING. every single point of criticism they would respond like this no matter how well articulated or respectfully it was brought up, they took everything personally all the time and could never respond to criticism maturely.

Reminder: this lil nigga destroyed 13 years of work building RA

>>723137929
He cute. He should show up in orb fetish thread.

>>723137741
>but every failing industry leader is the biggest until the day they aren't.
Iin this instance they're functionally the Sony or Xbox of retro achievements. Like I said, this would be like making Bluesky because you didn't like Twitter. You might get some people coming over from Twitter who are as mad as you but it's very likely not going to last or you'll be in such an insular community that most don't care. As it is Bluesky right now is mostly bots and an extremely fringe community of mental cases.

>>723137841
>I was referring to servers under my proposed system.
My bad then. They'd be considered the outlier from this system then, I get it.
>Eventually, they might even see achievements earned on those types of servers as even more legitimate than RA.
RA has the brand power, decades of public knowledge to work with, and influence over emulators on top of it. Every single server would need to get this kind of support, particularly from emulators. I suppose devs could fork support into each version that eventually gets merged into the public branch.

I don't know man, I'm in the camp where I don't think spinoffs would work, or it would be a Bluesky situation where only a fringe community would leave and not be taken seriously. It's like unironically using Truth Social or Bluesky when Twitter is right there. A big issue would be that many people would not want to outright lose their RA progress, particularly if they've been doing it for years, and even if you grandfather them in that just further legitimizes their list over what you want to try pushing. On one hand, yeah, it gives more freedom for achievement creators, but on the other hand it means most people will not really feel a drive to achieve these achievements because there isn't one "official" unofficial list everyone can agree on.

>>723137447
>Private Trackers work because the userbase is creating different torrents and has different hordes of content whereas in this instance you'd be different sites choosing to legitimize certain sets.
I'd say another key value of private trackers is the refined userbase. Compared to public trackers, sometimes orders of magnitude fewer users, and yet orders of magnitude greater availability and speeds. Selective admission, and those admitted must abide by the rules.
The allure of a "private" achievement server would be similar. You could have more faith that the leaderboard is clean. The exact, specific set wouldn't affect perceived legitimacy as completing the game's set on a high quality, respected server.

>RA can't even get subsets to run at the same time as normal sets and require an entirely other patched version to do so, I don't know how viable that would actually be.
True. It's easier to imagine perfect implementations than to actually program them.

>>723138357
>The allure of a "private" achievement server would be similar. You could have more faith that the leaderboard is clean. The exact, specific set wouldn't affect perceived legitimacy as completing the game's set on a high quality, respected server.
But then you're back to the GOG/EGS/Ubisoft Connect/EA App example again. They're all equal or better in some ways to Steam's system yet they're not viewed better than Steam. Technically the Microsoft Store would be a "private" server in your example since they use the Xbox side of things, but it's viewed as a completely separate thing because it's part of the Xbox achievement system and not PC achievements.

>>723137929
Base

>>723138545
Not him, but you're using examples that are too heavily impacted by extraneous factors. The achievements on those storefronts aren't what's not popular, it's the storefronts themselves, and it's because purchases are involved. It's a far cry from the situation of competing open source forks.

>>723138545
apples to oranges, you're talking about game platforms that require significant monetary investment vs RA type things which just require fiddling with the plugins.

Its easier to just fork the banned sets.

>>723138887
I get the feeling he's high up RA staff scared people are about to do this and trying his hardest to discourage it. They know Scott monumentally fucked up.

Is there any kind of possibility for a back door or side script of any kind? The guy who runs gab made a extension called disqus which essentially put a comment page of sorts on every page on the internet so even if a web page was censored in theory you would still have a way to talk about it to people. It never really took off but the idea was interesting, I don't know if something like that could be done with this where you could still have a form of achievements or tracking that isn't controlled by them but still piggybacks on their system somehow?

>>723138780
>>723138887
>The achievements on those storefronts aren't what's not popular, it's the storefronts themselves
Regardless of their popularity and use as storefronts the point is that games are still purchased on those systems and come with their own achievement systems, yet people do not really care about those achievement systems despite it being the only way to play games. Take Assassin's Creed or Watch Dogs games; even though you have to go through Ubisoft Connect to get your achievements on Steam at all most people view the Steam achievements as the important ones, not the Ubsioft Connect ones even though the UC ones are what's unlocking them on Steam at all.

>>723138967
This is honestly what makes the most sense.

>>723139002
>he's high up RA staff
I have spent the entire thread complaining about RA, why in the hell do you think I like the site? Like I've said over and over the majority of sets on the website are complete and utter trash and the community is filled with people who refuse to listen to or accept criticism to constantly argue "Mastery" and "But you now have 'Beaten', isn't that enough?" arguments instead of address the actual issues with the achievements. They're a community that sucks each other off and have the mentality of "I did it so you should suffer too".

I just don't think a fork or multiple forks would work out like you guys are thinking it would, I think it would be a Twitter and Bluesky/Truth Social situation where next to no one goes to them and only a small community forms around them that's very insular and not taken seriously. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try it if you want to, I just think it's a lot of effort for something that will likely be overshadowed as the Mega Bloks of retro achievements.

>>723138342
>Every single server would need to get this kind of support, particularly from emulators.
Not quite. I imagine that the servers would be implementing my own theoretical "RA-fork" (not the site, but the technical achievement infrastructure) so it's just my project that needs to be able to work with emulators, then everyone using it reaps the benefits.

>I'm in the camp where I don't think spinoffs would work
I fully agree. I don't think going to the repo and spinning up a competitor would do anything, not now or ever. I just think my decentralized concept is sufficiently different enough that it could be successful.

>On one hand, yeah, it gives more freedom for achievement creators, but on the other hand it means most people will not really feel a drive to achieve these achievements because there isn't one "official" unofficial list everyone can agree on.
I think that's not really a problem since most people will primarily track on one server, and probably that server will already have one canonical set for a game. Plus I think people won't really mind if you got the FF7 achievement for escaping Shinra using Jimmy's set v1.2 or John's set v0.8, it'll mostly come down to a server's reputation with anti-cheat.

>>723139002
>I get the feeling he's high up RA staff scared people are about to do this and trying his hardest to discourage it.
I don't get that at all. To me he just seems like a dude open to longform discussion. Rare on 4chan and especially /v/.

>>723118936 (OP)
I just want it ofline, let me download the cheevo database for the games I want and that's it, have an optinal sync to server that it's not available for hardcore or whatever

>>723139295
>Regardless of their popularity and use as storefronts etc. etc.
No, you cannot divorce things from the fact that those platforms are unpopular storefronts and are storefronts first and foremost. This is also why even when you go
>but what about the games where you still end up with another storefront installed behind Steam
Then the obvious answer is that it's still being impacted by Steam being their primary launcher due to factors related to PURCHASES

>>723131565
Make it work offline as more of a personal game log thing

>>723139002
Also to be clear, I am not about to do this and I have no idea if anyone is already planning do to anything like it. Right now I'm just kicking around my crazy different idea, admittedly hoping someone vastly more capable than me likes any of it enough to run with it.
See
>>723131968

>>723132215
I think that if I need a separate tool to find out the "not randomly" generated Feebas tile, it indeed counts as just bullshit RNG that a normal player couldn't actually know how to read. And at least on the actual GBA you could bypass it by just getting a Feebas traded from someone else

>>723139486
>I imagine that the servers would be implementing my own theoretical "RA-fork"
I suppose that could work, but then that means you have to force people to use your specific fork which is an extra hurdle to get them to bother as it means they now need to set up this new fork, all the BIOSes, all, all the roms, all the configurations. Even if you offered some sort of "Copy RA settings?" button it still feels like an extra hurdle.
>I just think my decentralized concept is sufficiently different enough that it could be successful.
I think it could work for small, insular communities that want something specific, I don't think it could become something like RA though. I think it would work for something like testing certain lists, or banned achievements, or stuff like that, but on a broader level I can't see it taking hold as much just because of the issue of the decentralization as a concept and not having as much legitimacy as RA due to its pedigree. Even if each decentralized site picks different lists to promote, to the community it'll feel like nothing is as legitimate as the RA set because it's the original site the concept spawned from leading to those lists feeling less important.
>if you got the FF7 achievement for escaping Shinra using Jimmy's set v1.2 or John's set v0.8
That's already a thing on RA with revisions though.

>>723139693
>you cannot divorce things from the fact that those platforms are unpopular storefronts
You can, because no one cares about Battlefield achievements on the EA App even though they're forced to buy and play games on it. No one cares about Fortnite achievements on EGS even though it's the only platform you can play the game on, they care about it on Xbox and Playstation. The storefronts may be unpopular but even when they're the only choice they're viewed worse than more "legitimate" achievement systems like Playstation or Xbox despite being just as legitimate as them due to it being the developer's direct input into them

someone explain the nugget thing to me, i don't watch speedruns

>>723140029
>>723123109

>>723140029
Imagine people are more interested in counting chicken nuggets than watching your rehearsed speedrun. Now imagine while that's happening, you're given the nickname Susan.

>>723139993
>but even when they're the only choice they're viewed worse than more "legitimate" achievement systems
No, they're disregarded compared to other platforms because people are disregarding the entire platform, even when it's their only choice. People don't want to be there because they don't want to deal with separate storefronts, so of course even in cases like that they're gonna disregard everything else about it because they're wanting to disregard it as a whole. They're not going to care about other features when they're only there begrudgingly. Again, there is absolutely no way you can divorce this from the actual core issue, even in these scenarios.

>>723140256
>People don't want to be there because they don't want to deal with separate storefronts
People would only be going to separate achievement sites because they're on there for specific games. The rest of the site would arguably be just as irrelevant and hold less weight.
>They're not going to care about other features when they're only there begrudgingly.
But you could make this same argument with forks of RA. If they're only there for specific games or lists why would they care about doing other lists there or progressing there specifically? They have their reason for being there which is to go after things RA otherwise censored, but they have no reason to really stick with this site's broader offerings because RA is still the hub for these things.

>>723140213
i have no idea what this means

>>723140151
>>723140213
thanks. i have a hard time understanding why he's so annoyed though, seems to just be a joke, and the announcer was doing her best to pronounce it correctly. then again they say you have to be autistic to be a speedrunner so maybe that's why

>>723140495
Here's an idea.
We can create our own central authority that can aggregate PSN, Xbox, maybe steam, and a choice selection of emus, with filtering options.
We can take submissions for lists, and accept official ones while still allowing other people to host their own and filter down.

We'd have to scrape the PSN and Xbox data, I think.

>>723140680
I think it's because he specifically asked for the guy not to bring chicken nuggets to the couch during his part of the stream.

>>723140740
So Raptr and Exophase.
Also, the lists being official isn't just the only factor why people accept the lists, it's also because it's on the systems they're on. Xbox and Playstation are not only popular but people have to actively buy the game on those platforms granting them legitimacy through their purchase, it involves the ecosystems of those platforms, it carries over to new platforms in the future, works offline (Well, not Xbox since the Xbone), and also has checks in place like full account bans for cheating them in.

If you had the official list for RE4 for example but available on some RA spinoff no one would care as much as getting it on their PS4 or Xbone because it's several steps divorced from why it's as important on those systems as just booting up a rom on PCSX2.

I don't really know how to explain this because it's a feeling thing over a practicality thing, but hopefully you get where I'm coming from. RA has earned their position of legitimacy from how old they are, how they became the centralized hub for this sort of thing, how it's online only so hardcore has legitimate connotations to it, and how every emulator supports them.

Is Clover any good besides the edgy jokes

there are already people on the forum trying to get Hong Kong 97 removed for showing a dead body and promoting genocide against Chinese communists

>>723141106
It's widely considered one of the best Pokemon hacks

>>723141106
i enjoyed it and i don't even like pokemon games aside from 1st and 2nd gens. aside from the gameplay the graphics and music are actually really good

>>723141106
It's one of the more polished romhacks, yeah. It's like Odyssey, Super Mariomon, Emerald Seaglass, Polished Silver/Gold, Nuclear, Bushido, and Brown.

>>723139295
It's not like disgruntled sampling of users leaving Twitter for bluesky at all. A better analogy is EverQuest players leaving for World of Warcraft. The disgruntled leavers aren't randos they're the OGs and the hardest and most passionate. Retro game achievements isn't nearly as market saturated as you believe for RA to have a monopoly. Proven by them pulling this stunt to attempt to get to the next growth plateau. Again a parallel to EQ and WoW. A competitor with the leaving talent copying the base level work already put into RA would outcompetes it. I also think it would see more user growth than RA. On RA you can't make it to the top of you haven't been there for years. A fresh start with people actually aware the site exists means more competition and therefore more players.

>>723141106
also indisputably technically impressive romhack

>>723140495
>People would only be going there for a specific game
>You could make this same argument with forks of RA.
And again: no, you cannot make this same argument out of the box, because the factors that go into people's distaste for those platforms begin with the fact that they are storefronts and money is changing hands. That's why, even though downloading Fortnite might be a situation where no money is changing hands, the systems that people are disregarding are the ones tied to the EGS specifically, and are disregarded because people have distaste for it as a storefront.

It's fundamentally different when you enter a situation where there is no expectation of purchase being tied to the platform at all. People don't have that inherent distaste built into it.

You seem to have made up your mind before this conversation, as you've just been running in circles regarding this.

>>723141393
for its time*

>>723118936 (OP)
I don't like that it doesn't have an offline mode in emulators.
Some Achievemetns are ass to get. Like makes the game unfun (though i think most of them got removed anyway)
I also never really cared for achievements, i just tried it out because people talked about it

>>723141347
>The disgruntled leavers aren't randos they're the OGs and the hardest and most passionate
It's a mix of people, the point is that as far as we know it's still a smaller vocal fringe group akin to Bluesky than the majority of people. Neither you nor I know just how many people are actually mad enough to up and leave over this, but typically it's not some insane amount most of the time especially when they keep flip-flopping on their stance.
>On RA you can't make it to the top of you haven't been there for years.
Sure, but there's also the point I made earlier where people also do not want to leave their existing work behind either so you'd have people who don't want to migrate at all because of it, or would be half-and-half on it. I agree it would bring competition into the space though.

>>723141417
>It's fundamentally different when you enter a situation where there is no expectation of purchase being tied to the platform at all. People don't have that inherent distaste built into it.
The easier entry doesn't preclude the fact that people are still going into this new site or system with less acceptance for the system on a broader scale. RA is the established site and example for all this stuff, it would take years for a competitor to make people feel like their lists are on par or equal to stuff released on RA, especially when it needs a userbase, and the comparison to RA as the original would always be there.
>You seem to have made up your mind before this conversation, as you've just been running in circles regarding this.
My mind isn't made up at all, I simply am not convinced an exodus from the site or the adoption of some other site would be as big as you make it out to be nor do I think people would take to it as much as you guys do. I think fringe groups would go to it that want to achieve the banned games' achievements and I think people who ideologically oppose the admins over at RA would also swap over in a half and half sort of way.

>>723142089
>small vocal group
3-4 large set makers for retroarchive left, including the admins, you dont get to admin without making a ton of shit, in the mod chat themselves they were talking about how there's more and more consoomers but no new set makers

>>723120047
>middle ground
>ban anything associated with "le far right" while leaving up anything about how trannies are the best
It's always so tiresome when the "enlightened centrist" decides to have a take.

Either everything is acceptable, or none of it is. If pokemon romhacks send trannies into a frothing rage so bad they need to be banned, why isn't openly promoting tranny ideology also banned? It annoys anyone with a brain.

>>723139993
>I suppose that could work, but then that means you have to force people to use your specific fork which is an extra hurdle to get them to bother as it means they now need to set up this new fork, all the BIOSes, all, all the roms, all the configurations. Even if you offered some sort of "Copy RA settings?" button it still feels like an extra hurdle.
Yeah, at the start it'd definitely be an extra hurdle, but I hope it'd eventually gain enough usage to be a seamless easy option like pic related.

>I think it could work for small, insular communities that want something specific, I don't think it could become something like RA though.
Yeah, I'm skeptical that it'd ever be as big as RA, not any one server or even if you combined the populations of all the individual servers together. I don't think it'd be too small, though. I could see some servers with hundreds or possibly even thousands of people eventually.
I think tryhards would especially like the prospect of more rigorously "hardened" private servers, similar to private trackers, with stricter requirements, rules, and anti-cheat measures. I think a lot of them would rather be in a 150-person server with strict anti-cheat than a 1000-person server with much laxer anti-cheat, though I can easily see there would be some that would rather be high ranked in a larger server regardless of the laxer anti-cheat. I don't know what the proportion would be.

>not having as much legitimacy as RA due to its pedigree
I can see how servers that don't implement anti-cheat would have difficulty really "competing" with RA's tenured reputation, but I think some servers could build up legitimacy by having a reputation for strict anti-cheat measures. Having any respectable anti-cheat on the server also gives achievements earned there legitimacy which helps the server gain some legitimacy over time, too.

>>723142393
That's how it is the middle ground is collapsing the old guard, sneaking in troon infiltrators and calling a timeout to reset tensions claiming everyone needs to calm down. Rinse and repeat. It's an old leftist tactic of setting the terms of the debate between one reasonable position, one wild one, and then resetting the middle point of the discussion to include both equally. Nobody wins they storm off into their corners but when they do this multiple times they move the middle ground closer to their position after each reset.

>>723142247
That's a solid group to build up a new site, but I'm talking more about basic users in addition to the big users. How many people would actually move over permanently enough to cause RA to panic?

>>723142551
probably all of them if they just forked all the achievement progress over and had a prettier UI with active devs while RA has none.

>>723142546
>but I think some servers could build up legitimacy by having a reputation for strict anti-cheat measures
Probably, though I'd argue it would take years of consistency to achieve that, and people would still ultimately defer to RA for most things anyway with the other sites being more as a "for fun" kind of thing. RA being the serious option, the side ones being more of a spinoff option.

>>723142393
because trannies are just le heckin fighting for their right to survive chud, thats why pokemon heil santa needs to be wiped off the face of the earth.

>>723139993
>to the community it'll feel like nothing is as legitimate as the RA set because it's the original site the concept spawned from leading to those lists feeling less important.
I'm not sure about that. myspace was gargantuan but nobody looks at Facebook as any less legitimate for it. At the time some people called it a knockoff but eventually people stopped caring.
I wasn't around when this was a thing but one time my dad told me before Microsoft Office there was this other company with a massive monopoly called Lotus, but before that I literally never heard about Lotus before.

The difference is that even though I think a decentralized version would be vastly superior in many aspects, I'm having a hard time imagining it growing as big as RA. Facebook and Office eventually eclipsed their predecessors. I guess it's possible my idea could too, but I doubt it.

Still, like I mentioned, I think legitimacy will come to servers that implement their own anti-cheat. As long as people have good reason to believe the leaderboard is legitimate, the server can gain legitimacy. And the more people trust the server (how effective their anti-cheat measures are), I think the faster legitimacy can be established.

>>723142970
>myspace was gargantuan but nobody looks at Facebook as any less legitimate for it.
That's more because they both ultimately ended up doing different things whereas in this case both would be doing the same thing (Getting achievements). Myspace was more akin to a public customizable blog you could feature your friends on whereas Facebook is more of a social networking sort of thing for friends and family you post short content on. Myspace also lost relevancy because it targeted a specific audience of teens and young adults whereas Facebook targeted everyone so Myspace had to pivot more to the startup band side in the end. I can believe a competitor could rival RA, but it would require RA consistently doing things poorly and not adapting that the competitor outcompetes them.
>As long as people have good reason to believe the leaderboard is legitimate, the server can gain legitimacy.
Sure, I don't disagree that people could eventually find meaning, trust, and reason to use these sites, I'm just of the mind that RA would require a lot to be usurped for another site to become the go-to for everyone or to become a bigger focus than a side thing overall. A good example is Figma vs. Photoshop. Figma has only managed to start threatening Photoshop because of PS's consistently poor decisions in that space, but even then PS is still the go-to for most people and companies.

>>723129903
Not really a cheevo hunter, just play retro a lot - wasn't the point of these obscure achievement websites to record ridiculous feats that require legendary bouts of autism to achieve? What's the point of achievements that just go "beat game in x hours" or "collect all stars in SM64"?

This is probably a planned takeover attempt. Romhacking was one as well.

>>723143471
>wasn't the point of these obscure achievement websites to record ridiculous feats that require legendary bouts of autism to achieve?
No, it was to give achievements to games that don't officially have them and likely never will. The general goal was to provide interesting achievements akin to was something like Dead Rising did for those games but got warped into being forced to do things like speedrunner routes or tricks, obscure glitches you need guides for, unlock literally everything possible in a game that never expected you to even get half of that, no damage entire games, 1cc games that clearly expected you to coin feed, or do challenge runs with tons of restrictions on games that take dozens of hours. Great example is FF1 requiring you not to open any chests other than mandatory ones so the game just requires tons of grind and shop items so you can kill Chaos at all.

There is nothing wrong with autism achievements if they're relegated to subsets that you have to manually opt into and are optional. Have your dick waving contest there. The average person just wants reasonable achievement lists with fun requirements, not guide gaming and extending the game 50+ hours longer than is reasonable even for a 100%er.

Over the years RA in particular has had people literally put in achievements where the WR holding speedrunners of games had to call out the requirements because they're unreasonable for any normal person or people had to call them out because even the WR holder struggled. Simple example is
https://retroachievements.org/achievement/40750
Prior to a revision in 2021 it looks like you had to be as good as the WR holder at the time to match the original time requirement. The Megaman Legends bonus subset was previously part of the main game's list and you can view the world record holder at the time in some of the achievement comments saying it took an absurd amount of time on stream dedicating hours to them just to do them.

>>723143310
>A good example is Figma vs. Photoshop. Figma has only managed to start threatening Photoshop because of PS's consistently poor decisions in that space, but even then PS is still the go-to for most people and companies.
That's a good example. That's how I envision it too.
My idea was primarily focused on being local-first and highly portable. I thought also about set distribution and QA, a little about servers, but very little about the competitive leaderboard side or how many people would actually use it, so it's been fun to explore those facets with you. I gotta sleep now, but I appreciate the conversation, thanks.

>>723143610
>This is probably a planned takeover attempt.
If you want the boring truth, it was nothing more than me throwing out my dream for achievements
>>723131968
and luckily a few people were willing to entertain the idea.

>>723126328
It's more like
>I used a cab to go to work
>My friend drove me with his car to work
My point is that playing and beating a GBA game is not an achievement in any way, especially when you can easiliy cheat them. The fact that they can be removed because you cheated them is also hilarious - majority of tough achievements on Steam and PSN are manipulated in some way, mostly using other people's saves.

>>723118936 (OP)
retro achievements is the gayest thing ever.

>all of this was caused by some guy with 0 score
lmao
literally why would you ever listen to some retard that doesn't even interact with your systems
i get that you'd maybe like argue with a retard who hasn't played a game on /v/ because you can't really verify their integrity on it unless they post a screenshot or whatever the fuck
but if you have a system that shows if they're active/participating or not
why would you ever not USE it

So, realistically, will anything at all change? I am 95% sure Scott will try to brush all of this under the carpet and move on like nothing happened. My minimum to consider the people involved human - a public apology for Bahamut and a reversal of the shush-bans.

>>723145164
>will anything at all change?
you'll have more retards try to (and probably get away with) trying to pull more games off the site that they don't agree with
there wont be a site that replaces it because it's been around for too long
nothing ever happens

>>723145164
>>723145290
Yeah the outcome here is now a flesh eating virus. Slowly, games with “objectionable” content will get purged. As this happens, it will empower bolder and more ridiculous purges, until there’s nothing usable left and the entire “community” is just AGPs sniping at each other on Discord over who’s the most offended.

The rot has set in now. You didn’t excise it early. No amount of chemo will save you.

>>723145164
He will try to sweep it, hoping the majority will just say whatever, however, the 0 score guy will definitely try to stir more shit and start going for more games since he just saw that he can get away with it and once it starts affecting user scores and people lose progress, that will be the end of the site and be replaced with another site with a better name. I too also get confued between RA Retroachievements and RA RetroArch. Hell, maybe the push for offline achievements would be implemented.

>>723145785
>and be replaced with another site with a better name.
lol
when was the last time this sort of thing happened
everyone just sticks to the shit, no matter how bad it is
see: nexusmods, 4chan and others

>>723145864
Nexus hurts

The slope that just keeps on getting slippery

>>723145957
The timing is somewhat on the nose

>>723146119
more like somewhat on the noose LMAO

I JUST WANT TO PLAY VIDEOGAMES
I was enjoying retarded cheevos showing me funny new ways to enjoy my games, and now I feel dirty booting up an emulator with RA enabled.

This just in: after axing achievement support for Custer's Revenge for nudity despite being a retail game and the adult-only filtering in place on the website, they just approved a set for Princess Maker on the MSX (yes, the uncensored version), complete with a 33-endings subset.
https://retroachievements.org/game/21450
https://retroachievements.org/game/34303
And yes, the sets' dev is a reoccurring personality at GDQ events. Double standards? What's that?!?

>>723143893
>There is nothing wrong with autism achievements if they're relegated to subsets that you have to manually opt into and are optional. Have your dick waving contest there. The average person just wants reasonable achievement lists with fun requirements, not guide gaming and extending the game 50+ hours longer than is reasonable even for a 100%er.
hard disagree. The problem is the assumption that everyone should be 100%ing the cheevo list for every game. That’s the REAL autism. Games should be full of optional “autism level” challenges because that provides long-term engagement potential for fans to really dive deep and develop high levels of skill expression.

Cheevos as they currently exist are a mistake. We use them as basic bitch chapter headings for completion. Ooh craft an item, ooh, beat the first map, fuck out of here with that shit. THAT’S the shit that gets tossed in as an afterthought. I WANT “beat the game without collecting a single coin”. I WANT “kill all the enemies in this level without touching the ground”. I want the retarded shit. That’s the whole point.

Not just for RA. For all cheevos. This is what they always should have been. It should be possible to 100% a game without getting all the cheevos.

>>723145164
> scott won't acknowledge that an admin doxxed another
> "we won't add new games to the banlist" as soon as any king of filtering is added stuff like vice city will be added there and shadowbanned
> xkeeper and succint will continue to say all chuds deserved this because the community was infested with wrong think
> emulators remain easily exploited but hardcore mode is still considered the peak of skill
> site falls apart when its stretch too thin
community doesn't care because wii soon
> everyone who complains gets nuked from orbit so nobody else sees dissent

this is what the playerbase has chosen

>>723146557
>The problem is the assumption that everyone should be 100%ing the cheevo list for every game. That’s the REAL autism.
No, that's what virtually everyone wants. They want to be challenged but not to such a degree that it's frustrating. They are fine with 100% requirements as long as it's not guide gaming to do so or they can replay content to do so. They are fine with missables as long as it's clearly stated and not tied to some absurd tracking they need to do. They are fine with challenges and weird things as long as it's not game-wide or requires some absurd setups to achieve.
>Games should be full of optional “autism level” challenges because that provides long-term engagement potential for fans to really dive deep and develop high levels of skill expression.
That is for the subsets and should always be for subsets. Requiring a player to 100% Fusion in two hours should always be a subset requirement, that is literally memorizing the entire game, routing an entire game, and executing it with a leeway of 20 minutes I think it was. Same deal with 0% which requires you to know how to do the power bomb glitch. You should not be requiring someone to make a game their job just to get a single achievement, or suck the entire fun out of the game so that they are forced to become the mind drained creature known as a speedrunner just to get a single achievement.
>I WANT “beat the game without collecting a single coin”. I WANT “kill all the enemies in this level without touching the ground”. I want the retarded shit. That’s the whole point.
Which is why you're an extreme minority taking the literal meaning of "Achievement" and twisting it to force everyone into nonsense that elongates games well past their tolerance levels. You are the kind of person who would push for #1 ranks in multiplayer modes, "Seriously" achievements being a staple, and dumb nonsense like that one Halo 3 DLC achievement of "Go 25-0 in this FFA match on this specific map".

>>723141262
>Emerald Seaglass
Battle screen aside, the retarded mon type changes/rebalancing and the ability to swap pokemon everywhere with a portable PC (thus getting instantly healed up in the process) breaks the hack's balance like a twig. Doesn't help that the creator was one of the more vocal advocates in favor of Clover's achievement set, success breeds jealousy...

>>723146485
I thought Custer's Revenge was removed for the rape, like 177.

>>723146930
*against
forgive the slight ESL possession

>>723146930
>the ability to swap pokemon everywhere with a portable PC (thus getting instantly healed up in the process) breaks the hack's balance like a twig
This is just a quality of life thing every modern Pokemon hack has now. Pokeball hotkey on R, run in battle on B, portable PC, move tutors in the menu, and so on are all backported for convenience's sake and you're expected to not touch them if you want a challenge.

>>723145957
You're a little bit late on that, they're used to run @all pings on the sercer whenever some big RA user is having runs at GDQs, it happened this past SGDQ too

>>723146949
princess maker has child nudity which would be illegal in many parts of the world. isn't that the same as the banned lolita games on the ban list? i'm not sure the context of them but by the name alone i'm guessing it's similar stuff

>>723146207
ke-ACK

>>723146876
The notion of “subsets” belies the assumption that completion is for everyone.
>this challenge is fine, as long as it’s opt-in
All cheevos are opt in. No content is locked behind them, that is the entire point of them existing. They are just for fun. The only reason to have “subsets” of achievement is the ass-burgered belief that you are entitled to see “100%” on your game achievement list. If some autism level speedrunning achievement is too hard, JUST DON’T FUCKING DO IT. Who says you have to do every single achievement? Nobody. Why does there need to exist some gay ass gimme-list of noob-friendly cheevos?

All a cheevo needs to be is
>interesting
>demonstrably achievable

It doesn’t need to be “balanced” because it isn’t tied to the larger system of the game. No content is locked behind it. No reward is associated with it. It simply stands alone as a thing you can either choose to do, or not choose to do.

>>723147090
When you can completely heal up everyone and swap at your own choosing even inside the E4/Champ last stretch, it stops being QoL and becomes plain handholding. Just because people can just not use it doesn't mean anyone can bitch about that, especially when you go the lengths to do competitive changes like changing Pokemon types out of the blue (Doduo/Dodrio as GROUND-flying, Noctowl as GHOST/flying and so on). Some people cheat all the time to skip grinding in romhacks anyway, so to just make it "official" in the game doesn't make it less egregious.

since when was pokemon difficult

everything you said just saves time

>>723147238
>They are just for fun. If some autism level speedrunning achievement is too hard, JUST DON’T FUCKING DO IT. Who says you have to do every single achievement? Nobody. Why does there need to exist some gay ass gimme-list of noob-friendly cheevos?
Because the entire point is that the base list is there to challenge you to a reasonable degree, force you to experience most if not all of the content there is, experience easter eggs or lesser known content, and try out certain things in the gameplay leading to a second goal on top of the initial gameplay. It is not there to hit you with balls-to-the-walls grindfests, speedrunner autism, or replaying 100+ hour RPGs because you missed something. It's why Treasure Trove is constantly cited as one of the worst achievements Lost Odyssey has. It's why Halo's achievement lists got worse with every subsequent game because they had to pander to people like you with the LASO ones and people across the board hate it. It's why everyone under the sun hates White Knight Chronicles' entire list. It's why everyone hates the PC and PS3 Super Meat Boy lists and opts for the 360 list because it doesn't have the no death world runs.
>It doesn’t need to be “balanced” because it isn’t tied to the larger system of the game.
It needs to be "balanced" because it actively affects the enjoyment of someone going for the list. People like to go for 100% completion. When you have reasonable achievements and then "Crush your dick in a vice and send it to the devs with your screen name" slapped in there you're doing nothing to add to people's enjoyment, you are actively souring their experience of wanting a completed game because to many people the achievement list is part of the experience of the game, it's not tertiary or optional to them

People do not like seeing lists unfinished, it leaves them with a bad taste in their mouth and it's human nature to want to complete something. It pisses people off. Why do you think boosting is popular?

>>723147238
>The only reason to have “subsets” of achievement is the ass-burgered belief that you are entitled to see “100%”
Yes.
>achievement is too hard, JUST DON’T FUCKING DO IT. Who says you have to do every single achievement? Nobody. Why does there need to exist some gay ass gimme-list of noob-friendly cheevos?
Okay.
>Requests account deletion

I always ignored cheevos so I thought they were harmless fun for the sort of people who treat games like checklists and want to officially get them over with asap. But I recently heard something about mobage-esque limited time events where you had to log in and play certain games during certain times to get extra points? Please clarify how this works, because that's pretty disgusting if true

>>723148313
>because to many people the achievement list is part of the experience of the game, it's not tertiary or optional to them
That's my point. That's their autism, not mine. If you feel an overwhelming compulsion to get 100% on something, even when it isn't fun for you, and there's no reward for doing it that would justify the unfun experience, then that is a you problem. It's okay for things to be hard and not everyone needs to do everything. The idea that you have some obligation to do every single challenge some autist dreamt up for a game is something you should see a therapist about.

I get the argument for grading difficulty levels of achievements. I get that everyone is at different skill levels and there isn't much to be said for "extended engagement" if the only levels are "ordinary player" and "top 0.01%". But the achievement system should not exist to be a pop-up that coincides with ordinary game progress. That's stupid. I can't change the fact that modern devs have reduced it to this because they use it as free analytics (hey, we can track how many players got X ending or got filtered by Y boss, and we don't even have to write our own code for it!) but RA is getting it right by having cheevos exist which AREN'T in any way tied to the core completion context of the game. This is something to embrace, not hide from. Why would you WANT a game to do nothing but catalogue basic bitch completion that the game is already tracking?

seeing this news makes me proud and devastated
i met bahamut as a cool ass guy on another side of the internet. what can happen to someone just because theyre the only ones doing their job is disgusting

i unironically say this as a leftist faggot myself: we really could use an anti-leftist crusade on the internet. until we get a huge number of autists rallying against all this deranged shitlib retardation, turn as many faggot and tranny symbols as possible into things to be used against them, and give them the same treatment they give to anyone who doesnt side with them, then the internet will be left to rot and deteriorate indefinitely

>>723120047
Wow you sound like a truly horrible person. Morals are free you know, it costs you literally both to not act like this. And no I'm not replying to the pic, I'm replying to you personally anon. Take a fucking stand, it's some random fucking achievements, who gives a shit if you say something they don't like?

>>723148630
They do have some stuff like that, you can see on the main page on the right side their weekly and monthly acheevo. Weekly is supposed to take an hour and monthly 6? People who do the event get to vote on which game gets it from a multiple choice poll. Anyway its all done for an event badge on your profile.

>>723148979
just make a bluesky pokemon hack dedicated to wiping out the nazis in each towns community
you come back later in the game and the towns deserted
you beat the elite 4 and then theres no more npcs anywhere in the game

you win!

>>723148709
>That's my point. That's their autism, not mine. If you feel an overwhelming compulsion to get 100% on something, even when it isn't fun for you, and there's no reward for doing it that would justify the unfun experience, then that is a you problem.
Your mindset is literally what people take issue with because it again brings up RA's retardation with "It's called 'Mastery' for a reason". When the majority of people are bringing this up as an issue then the entire system you are pushing is at fault, not these people. Like I said, people find these things as part of the experience for a game, especially because outside of RA everything is officially developed by the developers of the actual game. It's "priced in" for people as an aspect of the game to go for in addition to what's in the game. Because of that this mindset extends to RA and they're completely right to bring it up there too.
>The idea that you have some obligation to do every single challenge some autist dreamt up for a game is something you should see a therapist about.
You could say this about doing anything in a game. Why do the challenges in anything if it's too hard? Why collect every item if there's no reward? People want extra tasks to do that are enjoyable, being forced to be some savant or dump two to three times the average playtime into each game just to fully complete it is stupid.
>But the achievement system should not exist to be a pop-up that coincides with ordinary game progress.
It's not "ordinary game progress". Obviously there's the progression achievements everything has which is what you're talking about, but every single game out there also has reasonable challenge achievements, collectible achievements, exploration achievements, and unconventional achievements. That is what people like because it's not always tracked or encouraged to do in the game.

>>723122516
Where did you get this? The link to Dropbox and that other site lead to removed content, and I don't think I saw this on MEGA unless I missed it (downloading it now just in case it too disappears).

>>723149353
In the update folder and then another subfolder has the html for that image. Drag and drop the mario one into your browser.

>>723149353
Also shit a lot of the stuff in MEGA is piles of text (code, and it's all Retroachievements Workshop files), so sifting through that just to read what happened is gonna be fun unless cleaner versions were posted elsewhere and disappeared.

>>723146254
DON'T MAKE ME TAP THE SIGN

>>723149470
Its not piles of code lmao, download those html files and then drag and drop the them into a browser.

>>723149470
Disregard. >>723149461 Answered that.

>>723120047
I'm still opposed to Clover being removed from the site even though I didn't have much interest in playing it myself.

>>723149552
I wasn't sure how else to word it but yeah. Tard moment for sure.

I was top 400 but havent been able to play in a while and dropped to around 500 for shame.

and whats the issue with clover? what does it have in it thats bad.
I dont pay attention to all this stuff, im just there to play retro games

>>723148709
>but RA is getting it right by having cheevos exist which AREN'T in any way tied to the core completion context of the game.
No they absolutely are not because there is literally no standard for any of their sets or achievements. You have hundreds of achievements in Digimon World that solely exist as progress markers for the medals. You have over a hundred achievements in Tomato Adventure a third of which are playing a card game and another third just executing each attack at the highest difficulty once then some minigame challenges for first place that were optional in the game. You have speedrunner achievements for Metroid games that require you to spend five times as long as a 100% playthrough takes of the game to learn basic speedrunning tricks, learn the entire 100% route, and then execute that for hours sucking the entire fun out of the game to do them.

Actual good achievements would require you to do easter eggs, odd content, optional content, or reasonable level challenges. A perfect example is the Shinespark easter egg in Fusion, that's a good achievement because it's all execution and most people can achieve it reasonably.
>Why would you WANT a game to do nothing but catalogue basic bitch completion that the game is already tracking?
Again, the game isn't tracking a majority of these things, or it's doing them in the background, or it's entirely optional.

https://retroachievements.org/game/2482
Sacred Stones is a great example of what a list should be like. It's a mix of progression, a mix of optional objectives, and completely reasonable challenges anyone can do without losing their mind. Notice how it doesn't ask you to S rank every single convo between all characters even though that's tracked in the game, or beat levels under a limit because you can grind in it, or not use certain weapons. It lets you play it like a normal game while also giving you reasonable challenges along the way.

>>723148202
Play Pokemon romhacks yourself, you'll see what I mean with time.

>>723149772
>what does it have in it thats bad.
Memes that make light fun of races or religions.
The dreaded "Retard" word that sends morons for the hills.
Dialogue that offends modern sensibilities.

Think of it this way: Anything people normally post here is considered "offensive" to these people and the romhack itself is basically normal posts from here as basic dialogue. Instead of taking it as-is as a shitpost they think it's some sort of targeted hate speech and whatever phobia you want to add on top of it.

>>723150050
>The dreaded "Retard" word that sends morons for the hills.

It's crazy to me that literally no one cared about saying "retard" back around 2010, and now it's seen as being extremely offensive. I'm a literal autist myself, but I still don't care if people say it.

>>723149772
this is one of the starters >>723137929 read the filename
>>723150050
>Memes that make light fun of races or religions
i mean light fun is understating it but yeah they're shitposts, the game is pokemon but 4chan

>>723150346
good ol euphemism treadmill in action

>>723149781
>no achievement for beating the game without the tower
Shit list

why do you people care so much about some fake tranny achievements, this is insane

>>723150346
That's the thing, terms like "dumb", "stupid", and "idiot" were all the "retard" of their day and made to avoid saying some other offensive word yet people are fine saying them and not "retard". People read way too much into it and go with the whole "Oh, so you're implying people who aren't all there mentally are bad people" when it's just meant to mean you're not right in the head. They have to jump leaps and bounds to think it's an insult to actual mentally retarded people who couldn't help their condition when the point is it's an insult to someone who doesn't have mental deficiencies that they're mentally deficient. Being mentally deficient doesn't make you a bad person, but it's not a good thing at all yet they want to grandstand and act like you're insulting all mentally retarded people.

Drives me nuts.

>>723126628
They don't create. They threaten until they're able to worm their way into something, destroying it from the inside, all while lying and say they created it.

I for one applaud them for stopping a future generation of fascists. Everyone knows watching violence causes people to be violent, just like those road runner cartoons.

>>723151049
not good enough. they need to ban ALL harry potter games IMMEDIATELY. Mother 3 needs to go. Princess Marker needs to go. And that's just the beginning. Silence is violence and the hesitation here is killing millions of trans folx.

Why did Scott really remove bahamut after he heard that he was being threatened by another mod?
And I guess he is never going to acknowledge publicly that his mod team is compromised.

This whole situation reminded me of this video from ages ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A

>>723151260
This. Every time someone plays Pokemon clover my estrogen vial starts coring.

Nothing about this is a surprise, but it's still an awful reminder of current trends in the shaping of modern culture. RA always had censorship in their blood. They built the foundation for it with the bans on titles featuring loli content. The legal argument holds no water when you aren't hosting the material, and keep screenshots SFW. It wasn't until Clover got the hammer that people noticed, and complained. It never should have been up to Scott or anyone else to say what a dev can create a set for, or what a player can earn achievements for. I would bet that Xkeeper will send his tranny lackeys as an offense force to target other titles in the future. This is internet business as usual in 2025. Doesn't change the fact that it's all still gross enough to gag a maggot.

>>723150050
Funnily enough, I think the nigger word is only said twice in the entire game. Once by Terry Davis(fittingly enough) and another by an NPC referencing this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVFUYetRjb4

>>723151341
>we will remove you for your safety

this game is great
cheevo trannies are gay

>>723144771
Because it's done to appeal to a group of people who people think are morally superior and virtuous. Some people in our society live with the single goal of being approved and like by everyone, and they would literally cut a piece out of themselves to give to somebody for approval and light themselves on fire to keep people who wouldn't piss on you if you were alive warm.

>>723152940
What's Slugma?

>>723152940
It really is.

>>723151843
I've seen posts on Bluesky calling for more games and users to be banned on RA.

>>723151341
Bahamut was inconvenient to him so he contrived a way to remove him ASAP. First through intimidation tactics, then under the guise of his safety, and is now trying to paint him as bad for leaking his "private" messages that he's happy to talk about in public (just not now or ever).

Why do trannies have so much power in the retro community?

>>723154281
xkeeper runs a server for a cut content wiki and thinks that entitles him to control the entire online retro gaming space.
You should see his "if I was a mod" post.

>>723154438
I understand that, but why do admins still fall under his spell? he's not even near a passing tranny or something, does he blackmail people?

>>723154530
Scott doesn't care about the site itself and instead sees it as a business opportunity (despite being over a decade late to actually capitalize on it). He was convinced by Xkeeper that not capitualting to trannies will be bad for business. It's as simple as that.

>>723118936 (OP)
Is it really worth it? I'm playing SH1 again and just finished Fatal Frame 1 & 2.... does it give you that dopamine spike when you get that notification? Is it worth sending data to their servers or I can self host it?

>>723150664
We don't, which is why RA barely got threads until now. We just wanted an excuse to rant about trannies all day.

>>723156282
You will never be a woman

kneel

>>723150664
Golly, it's almost as if something those troons did made us care.

>>723154530
>not even near passing
so double oppression points?

>RACheats team members leaked
>no one says anything
>the members pretend nothing happened
I mean, we all know who you are now. I wonder what's happening and being said behind the scenes.

Guarantee less than 10% of the people posting in these threads even use RA at all, and of that group, only a couple actually get cheevos on a regular basis

The site is full of retards who master a small handful of games and then just get burnt out forever btw. If you don't have more than 5,000 points you basically don't exist

>>723158595
YWNBAW

>>723158595
>site based of scoring doesn't suck you off for not scoring high
no foolin?

>>723158423
yeah i'm going through them and a lot of them look like total assholes. they seem to have a very low opinion of the site's users

>>723158595
I only master freepoints games and pretend I'm good at video games.

>>723158595
All the trannies demanding the site cater to them have 0 cheevos

>>723158595
I'm within the top 2%.

>>723158595
My rank is somewhere between 300 - 350
It's also highly unlikely that you'll ever be a woman

>>723158673
I like the cringe sniper emoji wes uses as confirmation that the user has been taken out kek

>>723158595
You're probably right that not a lot of people here use RA. I'd honestly say maybe five people across all of these threads use it.
I know cake is here, but he deleted his account already. He's chill.

>>723142393
I have a hard time equating someone wanting to chop off their dick with someone joking about rape, or lynching, or holocausting etc. One of those is based on harming others, and the other one is just making a choice about their own body. I don't care about trannys, but they really do seem to live rent free around here.
>>723149582
I am too. But I can at least understand if the admins don't want it being on the site to be used against them. I don't expect people running a passion project and trying to stay neutral to be on the frontlines of some gay culture war.

>>723160704
you're fooling no one

>>723158595
I'm top 3%

>>723160903
Rent free

>>723160704
>I have a hard time equating someone wanting to chop off their dick with someone joking about rape, or lynching, or holocausting etc.
Trannyism is a cult, trannies reproduce by grooming children.

If you want to be a tranny, whatever. Say you're a chick on your profile when you're actually a dude, nobody cares. The issue is when you have to spam "tranny rights!" everywhere because you want to fuck kids.

SUSAN

>>723160397
>>723160912
i played on hardcore mode and when i finished i went back to the website to check and i only had the grey medal? fuck this shit website

the fucking emulator randomly put me back to softcore

>>723161105
still laffin about how Susan the chicken nugget midget got called out by the #3 ranked guy on the site

REMINDER
It's all xKeeper
It's not just that xKeeper is a tranny that caused a ton of drama, it is absolutely, 100% xKeeper who
>started the initial drama a year ago (who Bahamut referred to as an anonymous harasser)
>threatened to start a protest against the site and make a competitor (again, Bahamut's pastebin)
>restarted the drama when the set finally released
>pressured moderation and Scott
>"educated" Scott into believing their shit

>doesn't even use the site

>>723161080
Okay and? I don't care about children, if they're retarded enough to want to be women that's not my problem. At least a passing tranny I can jack off to, that's something of worth.
People are hypocritical when they say "If you hate clover don't play it" then have a meltdown if they see if a trans flag. Be consistent.

THE FOLLOWING GAMES HAVE BEEN REMOVED UNDER THIS UPDATED POLICY:
Not officially rated:
177 (PC-88)
Custer’s Revenge (Atari 2600)

Unlicensed releases:
Pokémon Clover (Hack, GBA)
Pokémon Periwinkle (Hack, GBA)

The following games are still banned on RetroAchievements:
The Guy Game (PS2)
Lolita Syndrome (PC-88)
My Lolita (PC-88)

is this why you fags are mad? they banned like 5 games?

>>723161286
Yeah, you're not even trying. You'll never be a woman, man.

>>723161427
Mostly mad because it feels like the admins were pressured into it by SJW/culture warrior leftists/trannys. They were originally going to add a filter system so people could avoid seeing things they didn't want but that wasn't good enough because it was going to "promote nazi ideology"

>>723161559
its a private website? the owner can do what he want tho

>>723161549
Why would I want to be a woman? I'm just free of the grifter anti-woke brainrot that has infected US culture, which is just as retarded as the sjw brainrot of the 2010s. I hate all gay moralizers on both sides.

>>723161612
If that's true, then why is he bending the knee to leftists instead of just banning whatever he himself wants?

>>723161427
>The Guy Game

That game has literal child pornography in it, though. It's technically illegal to own.

>>723161427
next is gonna be Harry Potter, Dragon Quest, Earthworm Jim, and so on
it never ends

>>723161902
what?

"Retro achievements" is an oxymoron & "achievements" in general is just a scam meant to make you feel like you didn't waste hours of your life in front of a screen.

>>723118936 (OP)
most sets are autistic bullshit

>>723161987
so you are just making shit up? ok schizo

>>723161987
And this doesn't even have the part about the girl lying about her age and exposing her breasts in the game.

Do not respond to dishonest trannies who pretend to not understand it is about doxxing and threats over an edgy pokemon hack.

Got this from the side server. Tele has been talking with Scott and they may have settled on a solution.
Things are looking good!

>>723162321
Big if true

>>723162321
No apology for covering for the doxx, no play

pokemon clover is actually the best poke hack ever and im not kidding

>>723162203
Legal in 99% of the world.

>>723162321
so what bahamut was suggesting from the beginning
genius!

>>723162321
Scott vetoes are definitely the biggest threat to the site at this point. If Scott relinquishes his power there then I'll have hope for the site. He doesn't have to leave or stop collecting checks, but his hasty bullshit is what got RA into this mess. He needs to be checked, especially if he's going to be relying on a volunteer team to handle everything for him.

>>723162628
Made in the US, distributed in the US, illegal in the US. It's not a morality question.

I just want RA to do well but not get too popular for fear that it attracts legal action from big publishers. I like getting cheevos for old games and can't wait for the Armored Core 3 set to be completed.

Like the following poster said: >>723119872, I really don't give a shit about this partisan polticking stuff. Hope this shit just dies down and people remove themselves from woke battlefield brainrot. It's all rooted in Russian and Chinese psyop bullshit anyway.

>>723162689
>everyone comes together to vote on an issue
>scott shows up and says "nah lol"
the site would instantly heal if scott and xfaggot got banned and someone with half a brain was at the helm

>>723162203
>be a whore
>show tits
>realize you fucked up and your gonna be in a game
>just say you were 17

why isnt she in jail for producing cp then?

>>723162321
To late faggots, your face is forever stained with that mutilated tranny cock. Should've done this before, now everyone know any mentally ill groomer can make any decisions for you any time he wants, your website is worthless.

>>723158595
let me fucking guess, it's never enough anyways?
get fucked nigger

>>723162321
How about
>oust Scott
>revert ban on clover and games that had sets and make them visible to everyone
>ban xkeeper and any future shit stirrer
Imagine cucking to people with 0 point accounts. The pendulum swung too hard on their side. It needs to swing twice as hard in the opposite direction.

>>723120746
I looked this game up, and it isn't even trans-related. It's made by some hobbyist Spaniard who likely doesn't even know some faggot has co-opted it for his AGP fetish.

>>723163413
Source/link? I refuse to click on that game.

>>723162203
>>723162882
>wheeee! i'm gonna have my tits shown on tv!
>wait... what do you mean it's for a video game? noooooo!!! get me a lawyer right now!!!!

>>723162203
>It's your fault for not seeing through my forged documents!!
will never not make me mad

>>723163491
https://github.com/santiontanon/transballmsx
This guy likes the MSX so he makes homebrew games for it. It's called Transball because you look for then transport a ball to the goal.

>>723162321
Assuming this is real and going to happen, this is going down in the books as one of the worst handling of a happening on the internet in a long time. This will be the second flipflop in less than 2 weeks. The credibility of site leadership is about as bad as it could be.

>>723163614
Here's what the in-game ball looks like. Just plain purple.

>>723163614
>>723163686
That's pretty sad then. The guy who did the writing/art for that set should be banned.

>>723162321
There's no compromise that undoxes the guy's kid, Scott.

>It's probably not urgent
Is that a fact?

>>723162628
Stay out then faggot.

>>723162321
I doubt Xkeeper will allow this

>>723161427
>pokemon clover and another hack listed alongside with nothing but literal rape games

>>723164075
They still haven't found the doxxer, have they?
The fact that they didn't even mention it means it's Scott. Anyone else on the admin staff would have been swiftly dealt with.

>>723164481
From what I've heard, the Pokemon Periwinkle hack was only banned because it had the same devs as Clover, even though it has way less "offensive" content.

>>723164679
It's apparently been "narrowed down significantly". They probably either know or will soon know who it was. They probably won't out them publicly but autists or leakers may find out.

>>723164679
>They still haven't found the doxxer, have they?
it's probably Scott, or someone he is otherwise entirely complicit with. anyone with mod/admin access could have saved the picture at any time and passed it around to their transsexual cohorts, which is straight out of their child abuse playbook

it's been 11 years and the industry still hasn't recovered from gamergate

>>723165070
Gamergate was just a symptom. Things can't recover until the problems that caused it are solved.

>>723158595
Doesn't make it any different from x"petty block pages to own the kiwi/4chin chuds"Kreeper, who fancies pronounself as the RA janny grandmaster despote having a grand total of 0 (zero) (zilch) points on its RA account

Where did the idea of slippery slope being a fallacy come from by the way?

Cheevofags are amazing
>wahhh this achievement is too difficult, it shouldn't exist so I can "master" the game
Just don't get it if it's too annoying for you?

>>723146876
>Requiring a player to 100% Fusion in two hours should always be a subset requirement, that is literally memorizing the entire game, routing an entire game, and executing it with a leeway of 20 minutes I think it was.
Actual speedrunners have times barely over 1 hour based on the in-game timer. You don't need to be a speedrunner to get a 2 hour time in Metroid Fusion, you just need to know where the items are. There's even an alternate ending screen so the devs thought it was reasonable too.

>gais the slippery slope DOESN'T EXIST OKAY
>gais what are we banning next?
>ERM STOP BEING A FALSEFLAGGER OKAY WE DON'T BAN GAMES HERE

>>723165635
Because it often is. it's literally used in that stupid Nazi bar analogy.

>>723165635
When the chattle started nooooticing

>>723165954
The difference of course is that using "slippery slope" inherently implies that every action is intended to be one-off thing instead of a stepping stone for greater plan or goal, as the censorship issue here is. Virtually all in support of it have expressed desire for more censorship. Slippery slope is not a "fallacy" in that situation at all, it is the intended result.

>>723165635
I wonder (((who))) traditionally has a vested interest in you not noticing the set-up/precursor to future hostile actions in a hostile action that was just perpetrated upon you...

>>723165819
>it shouldn't exist so I can "master" the game
It should exist, just not on the main list. That's the entire point of subsets: to be a place where specific challenges that most people would find unfun or difficult go. The only ones that typically get a pass are arcade or GBC backwards games that are like an hour long or less so 1ccs or no damage are far more reasonable to ask for.
>You don't need to be a speedrunner to get a 2 hour time in Metroid Fusion, you just need to know where the items are. There's even an alternate ending screen so the devs thought it was reasonable too.
You need to know where every single item is, have a route for it, only save a few times max, beat bosses quickly, rush through every segment possible, barely get hit, etc. It's not like playing a Shantae game and just rushing through it, Also, I have no idea where you're on about this, RTA is two and a half hours and only 70ish people have actually done this and submitted it to Speedrun.com on Normal. You do need to be a speedrunner to do it, the best people in the world only manage it in like an hour.

>>723163645
KEK

>>723163614
>>723163686
What the actual fuck, so the whole achievement set has troon references because... the tranny who made them just felt like using it for propaganda?
>>723163847
Absolutely agree

>>723161185
fucking lol

>>723122738
Looks like someone explained this imbecile he was being trolled so he deleted his reply.

https://bsky.app/profile/impeachmusk2025.bsky.social/post/3m2rml2meps2w
Reply (now deleted): https://bsky.app/profile/scottfromderby.bsky.social/post/3m2tbopqfks2m

>>723161185
Kek he's seething

How does this thing even work, is it a launcher for emulators.

>>723166131
Post proof besides one bsky user saying JK rowling made the HP games

>>723161185
suuuusan

>nooo the edgy pokemon romhack can't have achievements or be on the site!!
>hijacking a normal non-political game and making its achievement set tranny-themed is totally okay though :)
Just requested my account deletion, should have done it sooner

>>723167093
You can check the ongoing thread right now asking for anyone who disagrees with them to be banned or otherwise removed from the site. Censorship isn't limited to just the games on the site, as much as you'd like that. Although obviously there have been plenty of examples of that in previous threads as well, as careful as troons such as yourself have tried to be.

>>723166928
No. You make an account on the website and then on most emulators you can find a place to sign in to earn achievements with that account. Then when you run games with a matching MD5 hash (Some platforms it doesn't matter, I believe it's NDS onward because of the filesize and it not being able to do it quickly so it just guesstimates) you'll see a popup saying you're logged in and it'll download the achievement list which then tracks what you're doing in-game via the RAM reported by the emulator or something.

You can choose between softcore (Baby mode that allows save states and rewind and people make fun of you for playing on) or hardcore (What you're expected to play on) along with some other options for the site like if you want it to report your current progress or not akin to Discord. It's always online though, you can't earn achievements while offline to prevent cheating.

>>723158595
anon got pretty quiet when the score chads showed up ITT

>>723167216
Link it? I'm on the forums now and don't see it

>>723130635
>>723130867
>>723134763

FUUUUUCK...

>>723167093
Check the convo on the Clover page.

>>723162321
This won't be good enough for the bluesky brigade.
They want this stuff gone period, not hidden away or whatever, just gone
The mere act of it being on the site makes them feel "unsafe".

Hell I'm almost positive all of this was planned for clover too, no rich presence, not event eligible, etc. The only thing I think is new is the blocking from "new sets"

And none of this matters if Scott is still around.

>>723167204
>authorblues
what a shock

>>723154530
he has nothing but free time. he jannied for free more than anyone else so when the actual owners/creators of TCRF moved on he had the influence to take it over.

>>723167779
qrd?

>>723167865
GDQ homo who acts big and breaks rules as he pleases. RA loves him because muh shoutouts and twitch streams.

>>723125091
>>723121876
>>723121990
This whole thing is entirely retarded because the entire premise of retro achievements should have always been a bonus way to replay shit. I fail to see the point of legitimizing anything, random faggots upload and make random sets with 0 consistency just for a passive fucking novelty. The achievements should never surpass more than that, it becomes at risk of forcing a hierarchy based off nothing, and making it """official""" simply means reducing more and more options from users and creators to pointlessness. Fan games will be on the chopping block, and h games, nsfw games, etc. Its like anon said, it should and have always pursued to be a FAN site. It should just be a hobby, should just be things either people work on or don't. I already thought it was retarded to remove a Dev status from someone because one game had fan translations and the fags are too lazy to keep up to date with it and instead nuked the hash of them due to retards being unable to get specific patches, but instead of encouraging updating/replacing people uninterested/increasing standards, as always with any fucking hobby project, it ends up catering to a bottom line for people who give less and less of a shit over time. Who cares about competition when they were the first, will always have the most options, and will actually be maintained better than a bunch of ban happy puritan faggots who have nothing better to do than argue that their fetish needs to be publicized? Its fucking video games, ideally we should put any and every game on it, not the other way around. If we were going official then what exactly is even the point of giving a shit over steam achievements when it'll be impossible to ever reach publicity like that without severe compromises and c&ds from several companies. I swear comptrannies who over value this shit defeat the purpose of it every fucking time, its a NOVELTY nobody cares if you bing bing wahoo better than others Jesus Christ.

>>723161612
except for host an achievement set for Clover apparently

>>723167865
just another he/him fag who wants to ban all the heckin nazis. i'm not aware of any particular drama about him

which one of you was this....

>>723161902
the game isn't porn. a child being in it doesn't make it child porn.

In addition, side point but it was just severely retarded to even humor any seething fag. Ignoring them always pays off, acknowledging anything always makes the problem seem bigger than it already is. They always take more than an inch over a bunch of fucking nothing. Banning the nigger would've been better than posting anything about it.

>>723162321
a filter isn't enough, it's not enough to hide the content, no one should be allowed to interact with it because it has the incorrect vibes. it should be a game about making fun of white Christians and grooming children instead.

>>723168541
That's what should have happened to begin with. There shouldn't even have been the initial announcement about only forbidding illegal content. The moment xfaggot spoke up, ban. Back to business as usual and nobody would have noticed or cared outside troonsky

>>723168683
To be fair, making fun of white Christians used to be cool. I find them and trannys about equally annoying

>>723161943
afaik you answer questions and if you get the answer correct a chick takes her top off, and one of the chicks was underage, so it's CP

>>723168794
Not really.

>>723166526
The game's icon has the ball with the trans flag too, despite of how it looks ingame. Someone should report this by whichever mean there is.

>>723168794
kill yourself faggot

favorite clovermon?

>>723168919
How was this shit even approved?

>>723168250
because you turn what should have been a bonus into a community, this is what happens, you need people to run the site, the forums(now discord servers) to make the achievements, maintain them, if it was just about the side stuff it wouldn't be a problem but the site is now about IDENTITY rather than achievements, especially with money involved

>>723165070
because the leftist activists ruining gaming (and media as a whole really) spaces weren't properly gatekept out. if anything they were deeper entrenched after that because they were able to use the "muh harassment muh soggy knees" excuse for everything.

>>723167204
>normal non-political game
What the fuck? This piece of shit put a tranny flag on the badge for a game that has nothing to do with trannies and in his announcement on discord also wrote
>RA says Trans Rights
Is this the trash pile RA has become in just two weeks?

>>723168879
>>723168951
How quickly people forget it was evangelicals who tried to say videogames caused violence and shootings and try to legislate a bunch of morality into people's lives. Jesusfreaks deserve to bullied

>>723167204
>>723169147
reminds me of when tabletop simulator banned political discussions and that included trans stuff.. OH BOY that blew up so much because apparently it's not "political"

>>723169147
this would be like someone making a achievement set for OOT and making the symbol for it some kind of political Muslim symbol because of the Gerudo stuff lol

>>723162729
You will never be a woman.

>>723169235
those people have had literally zero social power for over a decade now so i don't care about them, i care about the trannies and browns with power today who keep ruining all media i like

>>723118936 (OP)
Chuds lost
Make your own site unironically or continue to sit in the cuck chair in the corner and do nothing /v/ cucks
Tranny chads won

>>723167204
>>723169147
are you fucking serious
the absolute state

>>723169235
your gaslighting doesn't work here leftoid
normal people want pedophile groomers like you dead

>>723169147
The administration blatantly disregarding their own rules to own the chuds, has never happened before.

>>723169319
evangelicals are at the heart of current republican base. you're already seeing them start to fuck with morality shit like weed or prayer in schools.
>>723169558
I'm centrist, far right and far left are both my enemies. Fuck Leftists and fuck christcucks.

>>723169235
Nobody forgot that. People like you haven't shut up about it since that one time your mom wouldn't give you a pepsi. It was just one pepsi, and she wouldn't let you have it. Christianity, am I right?

>>723168327
Kek. This is the guy who shit on Scott and got personally banned by him a couple days ago. One of the lesser jannies had to backpedal it because he didn't even break any rules, just Scott's ego. Glad to see he's still keeping it up.