Thread 723131410

He's kind of a dick

>>723131410 (OP)
He's explicitly the devil.

>>723131410 (OP)
Olgierd insulted him a little bit

>>723131410 (OP)
>let that prick Olgierd get what was coming to him
>tell Gaunter I don't want anything from him and to fuck off
>he actually does
I dunno seemed pretty reasonable for a malevolent supernatural entity to me.

Olgierd was an asshole but there was NO REASON to kill the soup spoon guy. Absolutely uncalled for.

>>723133327
>t.

>>723131410 (OP)
His gwent card was very good though

>>723133435
I guess they tried to tone him down and show that he's actually evil for no real reason. You probably wouldn't side with Olgierd since he's such a dick, but meeting someone who's out of your reach could change your mind.

This guy was a real jerk!

he really hated that professor who was researching him

>>723133378
Would have been cool if you could hold his favor until the big collection of allies at the end of the story for the fight against the Wild Hunt and then call it in.

>>723131410 (OP)
Don't care. Im a Witcher. Its in my job description. I kill monsters. I only kill humans in self defense. The entire sob story dont matter to me. The soup spoon guy dont matter to me. I kill monsters. Gaunter is a monster. I kill him.
Yes, I killed the succubus that was chilling in the city. Also the other one in the mountains. Im a witcher. I kill monsters.

>>723134934
>It would be so cool if the game had an anime ending where all your friends come out to help you

Eat a dick

>>723133378
This is the right choice. Geralt would never consider shit from him after witnessing all of that.

>>723131410 (OP)
I really wanted to make Olgierd pay and suffer, but then Gaunter killed a guy for the crime of wanting to have a drink with Geralt, and I've decided that making sure Satan doesn't get what he wants is a higher priority.

>>723135046
>I kill him.
How can you kill a god?

>>723135098
Fuck off retard, assembling your allies for the battle of Kaer Mohren is a major part of the game which you either haven't played or are too fucking dumb to remember anything. It would have been more interesting than a free refresh on liquor/food or a faster saddle for your horse.

Is he Jewish?

>>723135098
But it already does. It's called the Battle of Kaer Morhen.
Did you play the game?

>>723138158
He's the devil, so probably.

>>723131410 (OP)
This guy is going to show back up again in The Witcher 4 and Ciri will girlboss him to death once and for all.

>>723133378
>tell Gaunter I don't want anything from him and to fuck off
>he actually does

No he doesn't. He whistles at you.

>>723139856
Ever since I played the expansion I just expect him to be like the death guy in rdr 1 and 2.
Full involvement in the first game and only hints/a single quest in the second game.

>>723133378
Almost all the bad shit Olgierd did happens after his deal with GoD

>>723135973
With the power of anime JRPG.

>>723140847
>GoD

>>723140847
This, you guys are crazy for killing him over the literal devil that tricked him, Olgierd is quite literally FAVSTIAN

>>723135973
What a grand and intoxicating innocence.

>>723133378
Can't imagine not picking the Olgierd ending
It's too kino

>>723145690
I used to always just side with Olgeird. But, my last playthrough i sided with Gaunter because Olgeird is SUCH a piece of shit. It felt nice giving Olgeird his comeuppance.

>>723145838
>Olgeird is SUCH a piece of shit.
Gaunter literally turned him into that. The worst thing the game says Olgierd does before the deal is like causing shenanigans at the local village with his brother. No actual rape or murder. Gaunter swindled you too.

>>723134742
Norm was never funny, child.

>>723133378
Same, fuck olgeird, why was I supposed to feel anything but contempt for some rapist snowmonkey

>>723133934
Olgeird’s card was literally the only usable counter for WEEEER THE KRINFRED REAVERSSSSSSS cunts

>>723135046
What happens when you skip all dialogue and can’t read

>>723146487
Because Satan tricked him into giving away his soul. No soul makes you immoral.

>>723135409
GOD goes completely against the canon and themes of the books in every way to the point that it’s difficult to say what his realistic response would be.
Like if it were a story written by sapkowski, there’d be an eventual scooby-doo reveal of him being more like the allgod, that it’s a farce somehow. An actual demon really doesn’t mesh with his world at all.
He definitely wouldn’t help olgeird or care about his problem at all. The only unknown is whether he’d try to kill O’Dimm anyway.

>>723145838
I’ve only played the game once and physically couldn’t get myself to even want to help olgeird. FAFO.
>>723145983
>he was just a bum that ran around destroying people’s businesses in mostly peaceful rampages bigot! He probably didn’t even rape anyone!
Nothing of value was lost

>>723131410 (OP)
>hes kind of mean
Oh im sorry next time lets make a videogame with no villains. The monsters are kind of mean too so we can remove those. It will be a very interesting story. Triss: Hi Geralt its nice weather here, theres nothing bad happening in the kingdom at all.
The witcher 4, go pick some flowers. No one is at war, monsters dont exist. Its a very nice game

>>723146997
No it was like teenager shenanigans. Messing with the alderman, trying to pickup girls, having too much fun at the bar. CD projekt were careful not to make Olgierd a murderer or rapist or too evil before the deal with Gaunter specifically so people wouldn't find him irredeemable.
I guess you weren't paying any attention though. Also the guy Olgierd was about to execute outside the burning mansion is a rapist, thats why he's pissed if you step in to stop it, because Geralt clearly doesn't know wtf is going on.

>>723131410 (OP)
>is supposed to be the devil
>is supposed to be the strongest most vile enemy in all of Witcher
>is a fucking Indian

>>723131410 (OP)
i always help Olgierd so i can get the serpent sword and btfo the devil in the process, feels good

>>723148379
>is a fucking Indian
What? His devil tongue is georgian.

>>723131410 (OP)
Just don't make any deals with him.

I felt super smart figuring out that the water was an unbreakable mirror, before Geralt had the time to spell it out for me.

.

>>723151793
He turned that woman into a wight because he pretended to be a begger at her home and she told the homeless bum to get off her property.

>>723131410 (OP)
>random nothing character is revealed to be a giga-villain in DLC/sequel
KINOOOOOOOOO

>>723131410 (OP)
No, he is evil.
It's not an adjective, he IS evil and evil is him.
He is the embodiment of the abstract concept of evilness.

He was inspired by an Eastern European story where a guy sell his soul to the devil and use it for good instead of for his own interest. He think he can escape the deal because he got the devil to agree to collect his soul in Rome and never went there, until he meet him again in an inn called Rome, but the virgin Mary come and save him.

>>723135046
Geralt only kill monsters if they are dangerous. He is a mutant and not human, and to him, human, like elves or dwarfes are monsters if they are dangerous.

>>723152936
He's bros with Regis who is objectively a monster so yeah it's only kill on sight if they're something that can't communicate. Monster isn't even a real category of being anyway its just what people call all the weird shit that arrived during the conjunction.

>>723131410 (OP)
Fuck Olgierd, he's borderline a Gypsy, that's reason enough to let O'Dimm collect his soul.

Never, EVER trust a BPD bitch bros

I say that but literally every sorceress is BPD

>>723153373
>every sorceress is BPD
So your statement still stands

>>723152696
Well does he fuck with people? He tells them exactly what's going to happen and even warns them before they accept the contract. And he never breaks his word.

>>723133253
He's not the devil, he's a crossroads demon doing Faustian bargains. Like Crowley

>>723153373
and all the witches are bitches so it's correct

>>723153256
I am the man who defeated the sum of all malevolent energies in this world and the others at his own game while he was cheating. You are a courier boy running errands to whoever toss a coin at you.
We are not the same.

>>723153920
He told the guy that he was going to kill his father by "accident", that the love of his life will be repulsed by the new man he would become and that their life will become nightmare until he can't take it anymore and ask for the end?

>>723131410 (OP)
>Don't mind me just pirating this wooden spoon

>>723154239
Width is a better dimension to control than time. Think of all the things he could do.

>>723131410 (OP)
I was with him until he stuck a spoon in that drunk guy's eye. It's one thing to make a deal magical deal with people and fulfill a bargain's terms, but killing someone for being annoying as too much.

>>723154415
I thought about that scene and wondered if that guy ever struck a bargain with him or did something horrible in his past.

>>723154529
He sank a boat full of people just to get Geralt out when he could have teleported him or something.
Do you really think he had to eat that dead guy head trough an apple?
He IS evil, read the ingame books.

>>723154529
He just says "that's the last time you interrupt me" and spoons him. I get that it's to impress upon the player how dangerous he is, but it seems uncharacteristically petty and excessively violent.

>>723135046
what line of work are you in?

>>723131410 (OP)
WITH ARMS WIDE OUPAHN

>>723154818
>He sank a boat full of people just to get Geralt out when he could have teleported him or something.
Yeah, it took the God a long time to get all the whores onto the yacht too.

>>723146161
That's like, your opinion, man.

>>723145690
Giving him that he deserve doesn't sounds that bad, he shouldn't have make a deal with the devil in the first place.

>there are people in THIS VERY THREAD that let everything go the way he wanted and let Olgierd die
oooffff...
imagine not getting Geralt's character

>>723156578
>he shouldn't have make a deal with the devil in the first place.
My dude O'Dimm has literally been shown to manipulate things into making people have no choice but to make a deal with him.
Hell he fucking does it to fucking Geralt so Geralt can help him collect Olgierd's soul.
O'Dimm isn't a "dindu nuffin" demon that only does bad shit if humans ask of him first. He's actively evil, he makes things worse for everyone involved just so he can get his kicks and deals.

>>723154017
He's literally CDPR ode to Stephen King's Randall Flagg. Who in some of king's works went by the alias Walter o'dimm. Flagg is never explicitly explained as to what he is but he is a meddler with grand ambitions and otherworldly powers.

>>723153920
>Well does he fuck with people
Spoonguy?????

>>723154824
Yeah, that's how they wanted to make it clear that he isn't just granting wishes in exchange for a soul, but that's he's also evil without any real reason.

>>723153373
>fuck her
>let autistic retard vampire kill her
>kill autistic retard vampire for terrorising the city
>dandelion's gf is mad but lives
Ah, the good ending

Olgierd's wife was hot as shit

>>723154818
>He IS evil, read the ingame books.
this. I vaguely remember one of the books talking about a dude that he started fucking with just because he was researching about him

>>723156838
>My dude O'Dimm has literally been shown to manipulate things into making people have no choice but to make a deal with him.
Doesn't matter, not an excuse to make a deal. No matter how bad is situation your answer should ALWAYS be NO. Your actions could lead to even worse situation.

>>723157238
>Doesn't matter, not an excuse to make a deal.
Tell that to Geralt after O'dimm manipulated events to get him arrested and on his way to death and basically forced him into a deal just to survive

>>723157207
You literally meet that guy in the main questline. Gaunter tricked him into living inside a magic circle for his safety

>>723157207
Yes, this book is in the same room than the guy who lived inside a pentagram for 20 years because G.O.D. told him that he will die if he leave it.

>>723157238
Explain the woman who got turned into a wight then. She didn't make a deal, she got cursed for not giving some random beggar free food. How would she know the beggar is a godlike figure in disguise?

>>723157238
I guess I will be executed in Kovir then. A shame that somebody told the guards that a witcher was going to kill the prince.

>>723154017
He's the literal devil and a derivative of this story
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Twardowski

>>723157306
>>723157340
To be fair I played this almost 9 years ago

>>723133378
While i feel no sympathy for Olgierd, Gaunter is not as honorable as he presents and is incredibly petty
>the peasant he kills with the spoon
>the researcher he curses and kills for trying to find out what he is
>the spoon hag
Gaunter is a fucking dick who will abuse his powers whenever hes not bound by the rules he sets for himself

Is anyone else pissed off the Mr Blue Eyes from Cyberpunk didn't end up being like Gaunter O'dimm? I felt like they built him up so much, especially with that Mayor Side Gig and then, nothing.

>>723157847
I don't think both games share the same world, at best Cyberpunk is some alternate universe like the many Ciri explored

>>723158134
I don't mean literally Gaunter, I mean like some type of Rogue AI plot point similar to Gaunter (mysterious figure, source isn't clear, shows up multiple times throughout the game etc)

>>723158134
>I don't think both games share the same world
well duh.

>>723157770
>the spoon hag
I forgot that one. What is the deal with spoons?

>>723157847
They're probably hyping him up for the sequel.

>>723158894
Can't wait to play it in 2035

>>723157847
Ciri went in the world of Cyberpunk but there is no easteregg of her. What a disappointment.

>>723159325
The guy who directed the game vetoed the idea I recall.

>>723159432
It would have been pretty on the nose if they gave her a sidequest or speaking role. They coulda got away with a tiny cameo/easteregg but I don't think it's really bad that they didn't.

>>723159531
Or they could have had her sword be an item in the game (she loses it in Night City while world-hopping and Geralt has to gift her a new one in the cannon ending).
There already was a katana with runes in 1.0, and the DLC added a proper witcher-style sword.

it's not fair the most SOVL, f2p friendly and fun card game on the market flopped.

Geralt is the kind of person who just can't fucking help himself huh. The most hero "not a hero" ever.

>>723131410 (OP)
Lawfull evil most he kills deserve it

>>723159432
But not glados, streamers or a borderlines talking gun?

>>723157847
no im pissed the assault station ending doesnt have an extended playable ending if you chose somi

>>723133253
The devil operates by force, not by contract. He can induce a victim to respect the contract, but if the victim does not, he ignore the contract and takes what he want. Gaunter O'Dimm is binded through contracts. When he want to that woman that was wealthy, asking something for food, she doesn't give him anything and he cursed her. The Devil would have stormed the place and take everything he wanted, due to the simply fact that he has the power to do so, so he does so. He wouldn't simply limit casting a curse, like a punishment for a misdeed, for it would be considered as a chastisement, like if he is the good guy going around judging.

>>723134582
Thing is that we will never know if the misluck Olgierd got before asking him for help, is just a natural consequence of events, or just Gaunter trying to luring him.

>>723157847
he was in phantom liberty

>>723157847
No, its a badly written game so it I didnt get dissapointed when it turned out to be badly written.

>>723131410 (OP)
its been like 9 years since I played this dlc and forgot everything . Is he some extra terrestrial being? Was it explained how he was able to stop time

>>723138158
>O'Dimm
Worse. Irish

>>723164081
He's a faustian-esque devil/demon or some kind of anthropomorphized evil force

>>723154415
This.

>>723163286
it's less that and more that he like ironic punishments

>>723156991
If he was evil without any real reason, he would have done that, to the spoon guy, even if the guy remain quiet and not interrupted at all. He seems to show pride, for he consider himself the only worthy of the attention of others, like the only one to consider, when he is around, and not to fuss in any way (consider the Olgierd guy who Gaunter puts the fly into the soup).

>>723157095
Hot and sweet. She didn't deserve such fate, but sometimes shit happens.

>>723157306
It was just to troll him. Try switch the pentagram candles off.

>>723167623
>>723157095
SSSSSSSSSSSSEX

>>723157305
This. And it's the same thing that induced (in its own way) Olgierd to ask him for help.

>>723151742
>Stalin is Satan
whoa

>>723164081
He's the classic folklore devil who plays/makes you play along by his own fucked up rules that the hero has to outsmart/subvert. There's also the Hym demon on Skellige that you can trick by throwing a baby into an oven, but you can also just fight it (boring).

>>723157770
This just prove that the correct ending is Geralt banning him from reality, for he is a menace.

>>723152807
*a guy sells
*he thinks
*he meets him
*virgin Mary comes

Not trying to be a dick, just trying to be helpful

>>723169613
>that the hero has to outsmart/subvert.
Those stories in the historical Christian context have this as the trap and central irony, not an actual achievable goal. The Devil doesn't do deals with random idiots. He does deals with prideful people who think they can outsmart the Devil. They can only save themselves by giving up on their pride and appealing to God to save them. Which is always an option, so the Devil's game is to keep the victim focused on trying to outsmart the Devil instead, and get corrupted along the way.

In fact, in possibly more theologically sound terms, the deal is completely bogus anyway. You have no right or power to sign away your soul, and the Devil no right to claim it based on some made up deal. But you're likely to do evil things with the Devil's gifts, and even worse things teying to wriggle out of the "deal". And then you'll go to Hell for that anyway.

>>723133253
No, he told Geralt "you don't want to know", and Geralt is well aware the devil exists. He's above the devil.

>>723167780
GOD

>>723171117
Nonsensical drivel, there's no one single "historical Christian context" you pseud and I'm not reading past that. You know jack shit about eastern european folklore, so please stay out of the discussion.

>>723157009
>Regis is now an outcast from the vampires and has to flee Toussaint
always a cloud to go with the silver lining

>>723131410 (OP)
He's literally Satan.

>>723151793
He doesn't give a fuck about the deals. He can and does kill people regularly without them ever making a bargain with him. He plays by the rules solely because they're his rules and he finds it funny.

>*Refuses to pay a debt
>nooooooo odimm is the bad guy, contracts are evil and ursary!!
Pay your rent, loser

>>723175257
Fuck off, O'Dimm.

>>723131410 (OP)
He's based