Thread 723161754

Are chinkhelds mainstream now?

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>>723161754 (OP)
I cant stop using my loki max, PC games, streaming from my series x, and quick remote work to my laptop all at my finger tips. I do emulation on my odin lite but i truly love my chink handheld even when i was scared to spend the money for something so unknown.

>buying this instead of a phone controller
sheesh yall stupid

The industry and this board is gaslighting me about how I should like handheld gaming.

I don't. It sucks.

Handheld gaming sets my teeth on edge.
It's the temerity of it.
Handhelds are for people who speak quietly and shrivel up in company. It's an unbelievably arrogant platform.

>>723161754 (OP)
Any of this one that can run ps2? I only care about few games

>>723164015
google it nigga

I think it won't be long until you start to hear game developers moaning about people experiencing their games on these things instead of the "proper" way on a big tv with a controller in your hand.

I kind of agree. A lot of game genres just don't work well on that size of screen.

>>723164015
reliably?
>Retroid 5 (OLED, supports custom Linux OS)
>Konkr (LCD, more powerful than Retroid 5, can run some Switch games)
you probably can even upscale some PS2 games with those.

There are cheaper devices that won't be able to run everything smoothly and of course you can pay more for not that much extra

>>723162889
Phone controllers are all dogshit and phone hardware in general is not good for emulation.

>>723164709
>all dogshit
wrong
>phone hardware in general is not good for emulation
what do you think they put in these chinkhelds ?

>>723161754 (OP)
Why would I buy one of these when I have a steamdeck oled
1. better hardware
2. better software
3. support a company that matters
4. not chinkshit

>>723162889
>slap on phone cooler
>attach a phone controller
>plug in USB-C cable to powerbank
>put on bluetooth earbuds

Yep it's gaming time.

>>723164795
Your piece of shit phone is going to overheat and start throttling itself 10 seconds into anything more demanding than a SNES game.

>>723165261
my piece of shit phone can almost emulate ps2 games

>>723165261
Just get a phone cooler if you plan to play more than 10 mins.

>>723165090
Steam Deck is massive with the case which makes it kind of a pain in the ass if you actually want to use it as a portable. Chinkhelds come in smaller sizes (Retroid 5 and Mini 2, Anbernic RG series, etc) while still being able to reliably emulate up to Wii and PS2.

>>723165537
>just spend almost as much to cobble together some abomination instead of just buying a dedicate gaming device
no

>>723165147
It's morphing time!

>>723165537
Henshin!

>>723161754 (OP)
I think for the most part they're getting there. They're filling a requirement that both Nintendo and Valve refuse to fill: actual portability. I can't take a Steam Deck on the go because I don't carry a fucking purse and there's not a pants pocket big enough to fit it in.

ARM-based CPU are also insanely power efficient, so, again advantage over the big ones: you get more than 2 hours of gameplay.

My daily driver. Does it all, runs windows. Gpd win 4 2023 (4tb 64gb ram model). Has as much ram as the Deck's cheapest storage option. Was as expensive as a laptop because it has as many features if not more. Nothing against Deck owners but this thing is as thick as it has features.

>>723165147
>phone cooler
This is a thing? Like for real?

>>723168298
Phone gaming is popular around the world but phones do not have heatsinks so performance drops sharply after 15 mins so phone coolers exist to solve this problem.

>>723167647
most of these devices are too big to transport comfortably in your pocket, let alone having the additional space to spare.
The boon of those things is that they have decent battery power, easy to setup and are cheap and not something you have to worry too much about breaking or getting stolen

>>723167647

>Nintendo
>The switch is not portable.

but the S1 IS portable. Sure, its not POCKETABLE, but you can take it wherever and play whenever, which is the exact definition of PORTABLE.

the S2 tho? yeah, thats a bit harder.

>>723161754 (OP)
a boutique accessory handheld with no official support from a real brand will never go mainstream

>>723168384
i am abit curious about that new Anbernic DS which is touted as being a Cheap Dualscreen emulator solution.

if by any chance it has a CPU capable to at least play smash 3ds with frameskip, im sure it will sell pretty well.

>>723165261
Yeah, I prefer to use mine in winter.

>>723168401
That's literally just the autistic definition of portable. From a practical perspective, it's not portable unless you carry a purse or backpack everywhere you go.

>>723168298
There are already dedicated gaming phones with internal cooling, too.

I only care about the Steam Deck

>>723162889
I have a dumb phone because smartphones are the most complete form of spyware that has ever existed. But even if I did have a smartphone I probably wouldn't want to rape the already too small battery on it for games since presumably I have a need for the phone.

>>723171579
Batteries are getting beefier, and so do the chargers. Seems like a rather large leap over the last few years, actually.

>>723172151
fast charging only kills the battery faster.
Most phones are a pain to change the battery.
But this is besides the point, maybe you just need your phone for something else

>large leap
doesn't feel like it
my first smartphone had a 1500 mAh battery now I have 5100 mAh. battery is easily twice as big and lasts about just as long under normal usage. So it's like a 50% improvement over 15 years

Personally, i understand now that using your main phone for gaming can be a bad idea.

That one should be used for calls, messaging, whatsapp, internet, video and music. And maybe the ocassional gacha

If you want to use a smartphone for gaming, you should be buying a second hand one and make a bit of an effort to tune and clean it up if necessary.

If you are dedicated enough and lucky enough, you will surely find a decent used phone at a nice price. Slap a controller of your choice and done!

I've always been against chinkhelds but they could be good for traveling. Usually when I travel I just doomscroll 4chan or twitter and stare into space.

>>723162889
>yall
Not a question, but picrel applies the same

>>723168142
The Win 5 is such a fucking downgrade

>>723168521
If the alleged base price of sub 100$ is real I don't see it ever being good enough, which is unfortunate because I like the design better than the other options

consensus on rg slide

I got a cheap xiaomi for free and I use it with a gamesaar phone controller to emulate anything up to psp and some dreamcast. I've always been against playing on my phone but having a dedicated one for it is nice, and the battery lasts forever

>>723162889
I'm not wasting my phone battery on bing bing wahoos

>>723164015
budget?
the ayn odin has been able to do it since the beginning. odin 2 does it much better.

>>723161754 (OP)
If I bought one, I probably wouldn't even use it for emulation, because the input lag bothers me, even when I emulate on my desktop pc.

i can play all my games on this device

>>723180409
I never understood this input lag meme. this is only a issue if the emulator you're using is terrible. like look at Wii U n64 virtual console. it has worse input lag than the Wii version despite being weaker hardware.

>No one is shilling AYANEO Pocket AIR Mini
Strange.

>>723161754 (OP)
I like them way better than the steam deck since all I do is emulate old console games for half the price, the weight, the size, and double the battery of an 'eck.

>>723180515
The Android operating system adds lag.

>>723161754 (OP)
Saw one looking like a Nintendo DS yesterday.
Now let that thing be able to smoothly emulate PS2 and I'm all in.

>>723180792
>90 dollars
wtf that's almost the price of a gamesir controller
what's the catch for these things?

>>723162889
Enjoy your input lag

Any pocket size Chinkhelds can run Wii U or Switch comfortably?

>>723181635
Mostly shitty LCD screen.
Other than that I don't know.
indiegogo will start tomorrow if you want to get discount, $69 for the base model.
I know if I bought one it would simply collect dust but I'm still tempted.

When the FUCK is SteamOS coming to chinkhelds?
Open the gates, gaben

>>723182056
they dont wanna support drivers for a gajillion hardware setups

>steam deck gets popular by targeting a sub-$500 price point using older hardware
>every other manufacturer responds with a $1000+ top of the line brick with a jet engine attached to it
what happened

>>723182056
Just buy a steamdeck tranny they're cheap as fuck

How well does PS2, GameCube and PSP run on the Retroid Pocket 5?

>>723182435
They can't compete with the deck or valve directly so they need to try to win over other tech nerds who NEED the most impressive shit. Deck is perfectly priced for what it is. There is no space for a competitor. You either need to go chinkheld cheap (<100 USD) or expensive.

>>723182479
>Steamdeck owners are trannies
Explains a lot.

>>723182435
The Deck is sold at a loss and only Steam can afford to do that because they have the steam store to offset the loss in sales.

It would be cool if one of these retro handhelds supported being used as a generic gamepad for another computer

>use the device when traveling
>get to hotel / house / apartment / whatever
>use it on the big screen with a more powerful device, no need to carry 2 controllers.

I use one of those telescopic controllers that I can pair to my phone / laptop and just game that way when I'm on long flights.

>>723164015
The rg557 can run ps2 fine, probably the rg556 too. First is at 180 and the other arround 150

I'm not really convinced to replace my 3ds with one of them.

>>723180792
This actually looks interesting especially at the early bird prices
How bad is DS and 3DS emulation on these single screen chinkhelds?

>>723182435
If you're talking about handheld PCs (because this is a chinkheld thread), it's because manufacturing costs are expensive. Steam Deck came out underpowered on release with a shit screen and battery and even then Valve stated they had to subsidize and sell it at basically no profit. And they only did that because they want to push linux gayman. If you look at the Deck OLED it's not that far off from the Z1E devices and with the current global climate and tariffs everywhere I doubt the Deck 2 is going to be nearly as fairly priced as the first one.

What is the use case of these highend Android chinkhelds like the Odin 3?

>>723185548
its a high end snapdragon device so anything you can do with arm. android has billions of apps (official store & unofficial sideloading apk). you can run linux. you can even run windows on arm. mesa/dxvk works on snapdragon.

>>723185548
Gaming, Media Consumption, Treat it like a Super PSP/DSi.

>>723185548
with high end phones and usb-c telescopic controllers (so no lag) there isn't much of one if you don't have a budget. If you're on a budget cheap hone + retrohandheld is a better deal

>>723185548
High End Gacha Gaming

>>723185548
Being able to run my favorite unoptimized RenPy WEG on Joiplay. Just kidding, I'm sure not even these can handle it.

>>723186396
I've been meaning to try out the SEQUEL series on one of these chinkhelds, wondering if Joiplay or Winulator would be easier to do it.

>>723186683
I think Joiplay makes binding controls easier while x86 emulation should be more performant. Only tried the former though.

>>723186814
Sounds cool, performance shouldn't be too hard to run since they're pretty basic turn based RPGMaker games.

>>723180792
>4:3 screen
Not very strange desu.
I would never.
For me it's either the Retroid Pocket 5 or the AYN Thor.