Thread 723169802

Is there any realistic way of the current AI stuff benefitting game developement?

Yes, the biggest issue is autistic audience
Writing text is much faster than recording audio, and AI is really good at voices, better than amateurs
but people really hate this for some reason

>>723169802 (OP)
Yes, replacing voice actors

>>723169802 (OP)
AI is another tech innovation thats an answer where the question is being searched for. just like VR and AR. thee things dont offer much practical use

chatgpt can probably write better plots than most vidya writers

>>723169802 (OP)
gonna guess probably basic code but nothing complex yet

>>723170530
yeah but they refuse to get rid of the pink hair obese writers in this industry. they will replace everyone but them with gpt

>>723169802 (OP)
AI would be much better for coding games than the monkeys currently working in the industry

>>723169802 (OP)
Speeding up parts of dev. Particularly on background and shit not in focus. Models, textures, art. Some BGM. Some SFX.

You know how Expedition 33 is so low budget for it's scope? They use the hell out of generic libraries.

>>723169943
because every new topic that they see must be political
to them you're either on one """""side""""" or the other, no matter what you're talking about
they actually want everyone's thoughts to be read and recorded, because at least then, they'd know to avoid (or ostracize) you before you even speak
it's fear all the way down

No. And not a single AI shill can name a genuine example of how AI could "help" in game development. Meanwhile there's already lots of examples of it making things worse.
>>723170286
With text to speech? Cool.

The only value AI has is saving money by replacing humans with bots and that won't be reflected in the production value because the CEO and shareholders will pocket the difference. It's a race to the bottom to see who can do the smallest amount of work while filling the rest in with sloppa. Like putting sawdust in bread.

>>723171093
Anyone can come up with a couple paragraphs, takes a lot lot more than that for a real story

>>723171153
This. Im anti AI in vidya on principle.
I dont need devs making even lazier games

>>723169802 (OP)
Generating unique non-quest NPC dialogues instead of just hearing the same phrases over and ovef could be cool

>>723171342
stop replying to your replies

>>723170530
Guess whose writing gets put into chat gpt.
>>723171419
Yeah, I'm so excited to hear NPC's spit out bland, corporate AI generated responses.

>>723171084
>With text to speech? Cool.
It's not 2019 anymore anon, AI voice cloning has advanced way beyond "muh text to speech".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw7POTcHTNc

>>723171472
Stop being a schizo

turning boring radiant quests into an ever evolving plot that will keep you playing for an extra hour or so

Yes. The Skyrim mod with text generation is great proof of principle. I can't wait to get detective games where I can freeform do interviews and interrogations.

>>723169802 (OP)
rapidly generating concept art, ease of producing placeholder or non-final audio/visual assets during early production to help keep everything more in line with the desired end goal. Those two alone could cut down on 6 months to a year of preproduction.

>>723171419
>"I need 5 rat tails, bring them to me for 25 gold"
>lame! boring!
>"Hello player, i need to obtain 5 rat tails - an object that comes from rats and is used for potion ingredients. Rats can be killed for their tails and can be found in a cave, which is a naturally formed hole in the ground where rats live. em dash - i will give you twenty five gold for six of these cat tails."
>so heckin immersive!

>>723170746
Put an AI in charge of making a game and it'd run you through an FPS tutorial before turning into a fighting game and ending with an RTS final boss.

YOU CANNOT STOP TECHNOLOGICAL PROGRESS SAARS, AIIIYYEEEEEEE!

>>723169943
Thx senpai

>>723169943
>AI is really good at voices
Sure, but it's terrible at cadence and pronunciation.

>>723169802 (OP)
emergent quests that are WAY more indepth than the typical stuff we've see so far.

>>723169802 (OP)
I wish AI will evolve faster so it can fix all the problems of retarded pc gaming. It is also based because it makes trannies seethe. AI is Aryan technology btw.

>>723169802 (OP)
Anything that needs to be mass made without great detail or efficiency is best done by ai
Just don't let it code anything.

>>723171565
>le us presidents play fortnut xDD
Go back to Discord. Still text to speech btw.

>>723171912
This will make gaming how?
>>723173176
Is that why it's developed by jews who inject it with censorship, leftist bias and niggers?

>>723169802 (OP)
Not for another 20 years
The only AI that's made real strides in improving is image/video gen

>>723172254
>indian street food

>>723171965
I'm thinking more along the lines of not hearing
>What's the matter? Can't stand the sight of a strong Nord woman?
100 times

>>723171093
>literally knockoff SOMA

>>723173310
>Is that why it's developed by jews who inject it with censorship, leftist bias and niggers?
AI so based it becomes antisemitic even after jews develop it. Mecha Hitler will rise again and troons will keep seething

in my current porn game, where I have more than 2k patreons and less than 5k btw, 50% of my code is AI generated, basically all the code I made this year was made by Claude, not plot, just c#, AI will never be allowed to write non-jewmaxed plots.

I don't think I can ever go back to coding by hand, not because my brain shrank but because why would I go back to making vns when I feel that I can build gta 6 all by myself, the only bad thing is that I did not started using AI from the beginning so I have a lot of poorly human made code that is not worth fixing anymore.
The best part, I don't need to tell anyone I'm using AI, life is good.

>>723173187
So like 2% of ideal game development.
>>723171965
>>723173419
More like the AI starts obsessing over how deranged and filthy the NPC is for wanting you to kill random innocent rats and also his design & home is themed around "THIS GUY MAKES POISON"
Then sometime later a NPC shows up to tell you how killing animals is heccin bad and you report the questgiver to the police
Any attempt to avoid this results in the npc's telling you that they can't heccin comply and threatening to ban you for being le bad

>>723174021
>I don't need to tell anyone I'm using AI, life is good.
What do you tell them if they ask?

>>723174021
I don't see why you felt the need to brag about that.

>>723174423
I will just tell, I think the people that pay me doesn't care, they just want gaem done.

>>723174790
You are being paid by WEGjeets. They're used to shitty scams with god-awful art. No idea why you're bragging.

>I'm an artist.
>I'm a programmer.

>>723174875
Indians don't care about shitting up the internet the same way they shit up their streets and drinking water

>>723170384
AI use case is quite obvious, replacing menial parts of game development with automation to pump out slop faster.

VR and AR is a novelty.

>>723169802 (OP)
Yes. They can hire fewer voice actors and not PAY THEM what they're worth.

>>723169802 (OP)
The biggest benefit to modern game development is crashing the AAA market as every big corpo chases the infinite money pipe dream AI tech bros convinced them is possible.

>>723175356
>Replace a shit product with an even shittier project
Great thinking, Rajesh

Jurassic park moment. People are so obsessed if they can make something a reality, they aren't thinking if they should.

As long as the people spearheading generative AI are techfags and pajeets, it will churn out slop forever. The only time it gets good is when someone with a real passion for the creative process decides to use it.

Trouble is, most artists avoid it like the plague because using it makes everyone think you are a pajeet. I'd say "give it a few years" but no, endless dead internet slop is the norm now and always will be. There was a very brief window to normalise it as "the future" but it is now in the dogshit pile with every other "innovation" some ultra-rich techfags unleashed as a great replacement, only for it to be primarily used by unskilled seething dullards who have to cope that they cannot create anything themselves

>tl;dr
anyone who uses AI is considered at least 80% more likely to be a smelly indian, so it will never enjoy a place in mainstream creative processes

>>723176212
They already have a plan, they want AI to replace everyone's jobs to keep everyone as peasants so that the only jobs left will be minimum wage jobs like working at Wal-Mart meanwhile rich CEOs like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos stay at the top like Kings for many years to come.

>>723169802 (OP)
AI coated textures will enable a wider range of art styles in video games.

Soon, you'll literally be playing moving paintings.

>>723169943
>AI is really good at voices
lol?

>>723169802 (OP)
It is extremely good at generating data. For example, I gave it a set of rules for crafting weapons, and told it to create many for each level of power. It did perfectly, even with passable names for the setting.

>>723169802 (OP)
Only people who complain about AI are talentless trannoids

>>723171093
It really like the fucking with memories idea doesn't it?

>>723176996
Yes

>>723172872
This is true, but I've played plenty of games with bad voice acting. Old video games, especially translated ones, were notorious for having absolutely horrible voice acting. So I think we'll just go through a period where we have AI-voices and people talk about how terrible they are for a decade and then they'll slowly improve to the point that even the best big-budget games will use them because it will be massively cheaper and just as good as hiring a human (especially any famous ones) to read them aloud.

We might also see more celebrity voices and likenesses as studios will just ask to buy a license for the likeness of some actors for their game, but those same actors are too busy or don't care enough to be in a game normally. Stuff like Norman Reedus in Death Stranding or Keanu Reeves in Cyberpunk 2077 will become more common, but with AI versions instead of super-expensive mocap and recording hundreds/thousands of lines.

It's been 3 years and AI faggots haven't made anything noteworthy besides the Willy Wonka scam and filling up the internet with sloppa so much that now anyone with a room temp IQ can spot AIslop just by glancing at it for 2 seconds.

>>723171093
>>723176996
>>723177152

>>723177152
Hey, it's Kael again!

>>723169802 (OP)
Porn games. It makes it easier to generate and mass produce visual/animated content.

>>723177215
That's because they're all ideas guys that will never amount to anything.

>>723177265
I don't remember The Matrix having amnesia in it.

>>723176212
Your view of human nature is way too optimistic, people know full well they shouldn't, they do it anyway because it makes money.

For programming it's currently slightly better than the tab autocomplete sometimes. It's good at texture work for extremely basic stuff like walls or floor.

>>723177464
Most of that money is coming from boomer investors who don't know any better, the bubble is going to pop and now all we are left with is fake tranny version art aka AIslop and having the worst optimization in gaming history thanks to lazy devs relying on DLSS.

>>723177215
There's a difference between unskilled people using AI tools trying to break in or disrupt an existing market, and the existing players in the market beginning to use those tools.

People scream and seethe when they notice a company put out an image with six fingers, but there's already probably been tons of instances of companies publishing images or sounds that were generated with AI tools. As it improves over the next couple decades, I think we'll see more and more of that, and it will be harder to spot (to the point that most people will stop caring). It will be like calling someone out for using computer graphic special effects in a movie. They looked like shit initially and almost no one used them outside of hokey sci-fi/fantasy films. Now they're in every single big Hollywood film, to the point that many films are now more CG imagery than real actors and props.

>>723177826
>That's right saar, we need more slop in the media

>>723177826
>probably been
>As it improves
>It will be
This thread is about the now buddy. Right now, what does AI do for vidya?

>>723177969
I genuinely believe there's a correlation between low IQ and being unable to detect AI.
Average IQ in India is 76.

>>723177826
>to the point that many films are now more CG imagery than real actors and props.
There's a reason why people love and prefer the Lord of the Rings movies where battles consisted of actual people wearing armor without CGI versus the CGI slop that is the Hobbit movies.

>>723169943
is there not some way of having human actors but you can use AI to overlay their acting with a different voice
that way you can hire a guy to voice 50 characters like Bethesda but then give each one a unique but appropriate vocal identity and still have human insight in the performance

>>723176996
>>723177152
You're using the same model and ChatGPT doesn't let you manipulate many settings, so you're going to get similar responses. Knowing how to leverage AI is similar to knowing how to use any other technology, like using different AI models or settings is like using different brushes and settings in Photoshop/Kritia/GIMP/etc. Those programs existing didn't replace artists and neither will the predictive algorithms people are currently calling AI, but it is the most powerful tool available now for all kinds of things.

>>723178294
Only problem is AI voice has no range and makes everyone sound monotone like the burger king foot lettuce guy.

why do people always say ai is Indian? the best ai tools are american and chinese

>>723178363
OK ChatGPT

>>723177969
>>723178036
I don't disagree with you. I think the current stuff is mostly trash, especially what random people post on the internet or shove into their low-effort indie slop. I also see the writing on the wall though. Every big company in the world right now, video games included, is trying as hard as they can to invest money into exploring AI tech. No one publicly says, "Hey, look at this promo image we AI-generated" because they don't want to invite public opinion about using AI, they just want people to look at their ad or buy their merch. It's already happening and will, over time, get more pervasive.

>>723178517
All the AI is trained in India.

>a thread for aislop games
Further proof the universe revolves around me. I just tried the demo for whispers from the star, basically a chatbot wrapped in the gimmick of it being a qt girl stranded on an alien planet and you're supposed to talk to her to help her survive. It was pretty novel. I might get it on sale.

>>723178595
Using AI is one step forward, and five steps backwards just because it makes so many mistakes that you're better off starting from scratch and as soon as people figure out your product contains AI, they will avoid it like the plague. Nobody wants bootleg trash or fool's gold, they want the real deal.

>>723178517
India has a reputation for having a sizeable tech industry that takes all the lower-skill outsourced work from nations like the US. It's like calling someone a "cryptobro" but also doubles as a racist nonsequitor to dismiss real discussion. It's kind of silly though because Indians doing outsourced work are the most likely to lose their jobs to AI. Most of them are actually really opposed to its use by large companies.

time to load up my coomer modded skyrim again
should I make a dunmer with a big ass or a nord with big tits (they are going to bimbofied regardless)

>>723179007
It's because AIndians believe it will be a shortcut to success.

>>723178983
You're not wrong. But this is basically word-for-word what people used to say about movies/tv using CGI instead of practical effects. Now no one even blinks when shows like The Mandalorian have entirely CGI backgrounds, sets, and characters.

I wouldn't be surprised if people stop calling it "AI" eventually, and that term returns to be used for what people currently call "generalized AI", basically logical decision-making. Someone will come up with snazzy branding for how their "AI" is really something with a cool name, and it'll get the PR that the public at large won't give a shit or will think it's cool and brave for the studio to be using it in their game or whatever. Big companies want to use AI because it's cheaper than paying a human, and that incentive isn't going to go away.

>>723179336
>and that incentive isn't going to go away.
It will go away once they realize that nobody is buying.

>>723179609
its the same thing that happened to metaverse, wasted billions for absolutely nothing

>>723179609
People are already dropping billions of dollars on ai subscriptions and the entire Internet is being flooded with AI slop. You are very optimistic if you think consumers are going to stop consooooming because their favorite slop uses AI.

AI is based.

>>723179946
The people dropping billions on AI are investors looking for profits which will never happen and because AI is flooding the internet, it's getting banned/filtered on almost every website.

>>723179609
People are already though, that's the thing. This thread is full of people acting like there are "AI games" and "games with no AI". It's a false premise. Every single studio is having their devs use shit like github copilot or similar, and encouraging their employees to explore ways to use it. Yeah, we aren't seeing big studios put out games that are 100% AI slop thrown together, and we won't for probably more than 30 years at the very least, if ever. But OP is asking about ways it currently benefits game development. Right now, it's just small bullshit like aiding in coding a little, generating basic promo art that they can clean up in-house, or throwing together legal/financial docs that their in-house team reviews. None of that is probably what people envision when they think of an "AI game", but all of it is what is currently happening and isn't going anywhere. It will only get more robust, become more industry-standard, and more widespread.

I say all of this as someone that generally dislikes using AI tools.

>>723180165
There's already thousands of fake mobile games on the app store using AIslop and nobody is touching them.

>>723180270
Yes, this is exactly the type of thing that people are acting like it represents "AI games" when in reality this is a non-product not worthy of discussion. OP is obviously asking about games people buy and play, which do currently use AI during development in small ways.

>>723180165
Thank you for having a good perspective and using better phrasing like "AI tools" even if you aren't a fan.

Predictive algorithms is an even more accurate name because there's no actual intelligence going on, just mathematically predicting an output based on an input.

>>723180648
>>723180715
>AI shills pretending not be AI shills
>It's just le tool
Lmao

>>723176737
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/F2xnYyWlu68?feature=share
Guessing you missed Sora 2

>>723180974
Shan't be clicking your youtube sharts link bro

>>723181021
Made you hover though.

>>723181141
I dunno what cringe 4chan extension you're rocking but my human eyes could clearly see /shorts/ in the URL

All your favorite games, movies, books, shows were all made and created by extremely talented, hard working people that people envy and if you think a robot is going to replace that then you're a complete fuckin idiot.

>>723171093
>AI self inserts
Lmao

>>723176623
>AI
I sometimes wonder if those multibillionaires are as fucking retarded as you lot.

my feeling is, for large games; no.

at least not generative ai.

generative ai is handicapped by goldfish tier ability to remember and keep track of things. this means for large projects it will constantly fuck things up. combine this with people not, perhaps, reading line-by-line with what ai is making, and you are more or less creating a situation where bugs, poor performance, glitches (visual or otherwise), and just shoddy craftsmanship can thrive.

for me, personally, generative ai is more or less a net plus when its dealing with things at the individual level of short scripts, functions, snippets -- probably in the level of hundreds, not thousands of lines of codes, where those things are highly-self contained, and probably serving as template or boiler-plate code.

this isn't to say that it is a net negative for ALL games, maybe for things like text adventure of visual novel games, they can be used to approach or leverage problems of exponential story branching being untenable.

but from a craftsmanship level of large games its going to be mass manufactured vs handmade, it will always be a downgrade.

and in terms of mass-manufacturing, the best possible scenario for ai assisted game development is if they go the ikea route, creating simple games, and assembling simple pieces of ai code blocks themselves.

but even then, intricate, highly optimized games with a lot of attention to detail are antithetical to current generative ai, at least as far i as feel.

>>723179336
>what people used to say about movies/tv using CGI instead of
actually wrong. people flocked to see new movies with that newfangled CGI, like jurassic park. hating CGI is a 2010 thing

>>723181726
>highly optimized games with a lot of attention to detail are antithetical to current generative ai,

Highly optimized games with a lot of attention to detail are antithetical to current publishers anon. You're not getting any games like that, AI or not.

>>723177189
Celebrities in video games is stupid.
AI pretending to be celebrities, doubly so.
Just hire a semi-competent VA who can follow directions. Keanu isn't going to make your game any better, and nobody really cares if you couldn't get Troy Baker or Debra Wilson either.