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i miss xcom

you can still go and play it anon why do you post this here

I play it and mod a viper into my group and my ranger and her work really well together but then I get bored when they area too tired to go on the next mission and stop playing.

>>723192348
no
i cant
its dead

>>723192348
if a game's concurrent player count drops below a certain number it becomes illegal to play that game.

>>723192271 (OP)
you always miss in xcom

>>723192514
this is true

>>723192271 (OP)
I think this game is at its best in the early/mid game. By the time you get double sectopods per mission, and all of your guys are stacked with abilities and utility, I think it gets too boring.

>>723192385
Anon, just because nobody plays it doesn't mean you can't play it.
You are not a drone. You are not part of a hive.
You miss playing it. Go play it.
I missed playing W40K Chaos Gate, and i played it twice, and liked it. And this is the second time only in this year I mention it to somebody.
Don't care about approval. Just go, and have some fun.

>>723192764
Just got to that point in my current playthrough. I'll probably do an iron man run on my next go round and never even make it to that point.

>>723193358
You can definitely rush it and never see them. But with WOTC in play I think there's a few plates too many that you have to keep spinning now to do that reliably. Especially if god forbid you're running alien rulers too.

god I want xcom 3 so bad bro
that initial xcom 2 reveal was so hype I can't believe it's been nearly a decade

>>723192271 (OP)
It's kind of a played out formula. Too hard to balance to make interesting or novel in its current format. 2 games was enough.

How do you fuckers even play this on the harder difficulties on iron man? 2012 XCOM is fine because there are no timelimits so I can overwatch scum victory, even on ironman.

But 2...it's fucking brutal.

I prefer Xcom: Enemy unknown. I like the struggle to avert the alien invasion. Guerilla warfare against occupation forces is stupid. The second game is cringe and gay.

>>723192271 (OP)
Whoever is posting this new wave of xcom threads, please note:

Yes, we like xcom
Yes, even the bitter anons that claimed to not enjoy the new xcom games in reality bought both of them and their expansions and enjoyed them a lot.
Yes, both XCOM:EW and XCOM:WotC were way better than the base games and basically saved them

So you need to be careful, but, speaking for /v/, if you make more GOOD xcom games in Jake Solomon's style:
we absolutely will buy them,
we absolutely will create positive groundswell,
we absolutely will be stoked because there aren't many games like it,
and we absolutely will make tons of lewd mods to attract new players.

If you half ass it though youre going to lose a lot of money.

Now go back to your corporate overlords and report and get whoever is Jake's successor a budget. A good one faggot

>>723193609
Ever since playing the Wasteland games and JA3, I feel very spoiled with action points. Mechanically I wish any future XCOM would use that system instead. Speaking of that I didn't mind what Chimera Squad tried to do, but not having any way to influence the turn timeline with your gear or breaching choices was really dumb on their part.

>>723193738
I think Commander feels the most balanced personally. The two biggest things are having good utility (e,g. mind shields vs warlock, a couple mimic beacons for if shit really hits the fan).
Second is knowing what enemy abilities are on the board. If I have an encounter with a sectoid, two troopers and a shieldbearer let's say, my priority is going to be the troopers first. The shieldbearer is almost certainly going to run to cover and shield up, and the sectoid will 99% of the time try to make a zombie out of a dead trooper. That kind of thing applies to a lot of enemies. Archons will try to use pinions immediately, Codexes like to use their grav well that disables weapons, Vipers like to tongue grab immediately. Knowing what the AI is likely to do with their units lets you plan around the fight.
With XCOM 2 as well, you're expected to play fast and scrappy, you won't often get a perfect encounter and you'll need to take bad fights out of position all the time. Having a lot of utility to stall a turn or break cover is essential in this game. Keep moving forward as often and as soon as you can, go for flanks always, the AI will always try to reposition when its out of cover or flanked and if you have it in a crossfire situation where it can't avoid a flank then sometimes the AI will outright skip its turn.

>sectoids lost their commanders in 2
>forced to become lanky bois
Goddamn, 2 is depressing

>>723192271 (OP)
I kind of want an X-com FPS coop game.

>>723194772
Be careful what you wish for.
I actually really enjoyed this game, it was a little camp and B-movie at times, but still a decently fun game

>>723193738
it's not very difficult on commander
the biggest hurdle is the early game but in wotc you get a free hero unit to start with and that trivializes the early game
i play commander ironman with difficulty mods
legend is for fags anyway since it makes the game take longer for literally no good reason

>>723192271 (OP)
>annihilate enemy
>alien edgelords call me to shittalk me
What the fuck is their problem?

>>723193738
XCOM 2 is pretty manageable on L/I.
The only hard things are Gatecrasher and the first Retaliation and you can technically fail it and be fine(ish). After that Mag weapons are in sight.

Now XCOM 1 on I/I is just groin abuse at the start. Even the devs admitted they made it bullshit since they didnt know how to make it harder any other way. 6HP thin mints are just pure rape until lasers and even then they'll fuck you at times.

>>723195594
>What the fuck is their problem?
They're massively arrogant bastards who are actually the best of the very best of the ayyliens and they know it. At the very least the Assassin respects you for defeating her most of the time. And I think the Warlock also admits defeat at the very very end.

>>723194772
I want something like it too, just an medieval fantasy RPG over the should point and click adventure with lootboxes

>>723197369
Witcher 3

post the viper fanfic pastebin if you are so good

I'm so over the XCOM Cinematic Universe

I do not like Long War

>>723193924
I agree. The general storyline of Enemy Unknown with the all of the improvements of 2 is all I would ever want from a hypothetical new Xcom game

>>723202410
I like the idea of Long War, playing it on the other hand

how the fuck did they never make an xcom 3. i thought it was guaranteed after 2 came out to good sales and acclaim.

>the LOST missions
>save before exfil
>reload the save from time to time playing a last stand survival

>always make my highest ranked heavy look like Jesse Ventura from Predators

>download sound boards for squadies like the cast of king of the hill or it's always sunny in philadelphia

>save scum like it's going outta style

>never finish a playthrough
>do it all over again in six to seven months

>>723203059
Because they made this. They made this abomination. It shat all over everything that the previous 2 games had made. The glorious 2 games that revived a dead series that most people didn't even know exist. Those games revived it from the dead and elevated it to heights nobody would have dreamed possible.
Chimera Squad was just so bad though that it killed the entire series. Anon, we are never getting another XCom game again, and it's all this turd's fault.

>>723193924
The atmosphere of EU is indeed head and shoulders better than 2's

>>723192271 (OP)
Why does the first game feel so much better than the second? Its like they tried too hard in 2 whereas 1 is just kino in a bottle.

>>723204889
It was Midnight Suns completely bombing

>>723205708
I struggle to fathom how much Marvel slop rotted their brain that they thought this would fly.
I despise Marvel with every fiber of my being for ruining so many things.

>>723193738
The biggest hurdle on playing on the explicit ironman setting are the bugs.
Sometimes you get Xcom'd and all your units die instantly from spagetti code that wasn't caused by you or the aliens.

>>723204889
if this was marketed as a spinoff phonegame or small expansion without the cringe writing (like, any writing at all)
it would've been fine

the game is ok, except for the overarching death/chaos counter being way too easy to counter

it's just not the big main course sequel people wanted (and yes, the writing and some art was fucking cringe)

I thought the breach mechanic and more chaotic small rooms meshed well with the more chaotic turn mechanics per individual unit
it made the game feel different enough

>>723193738
i tried veteran ironman a couple times and got owned on the first blacksite mission every time until i kinda gave up

i want to try the harder difficulty
but playing without ironman is lame
combined they just btfo my ass

Midnight suns was a good game doe

Man XCOM 2 is one of those comfort games I always come back to. I hope Mars Tactics ends up being good, cause aside from that I don't know what the fuck else to play.

>>723208059
No, it wasn't just the terrible writing, though that certainly was a major part of it. The game was also buggy as all hell. It crashed on me, repeatedly, and the crashes got more frequent the later I got into the game. How did it run worse than XCOM2, while doing also doing so much less than it?
>>723205708
I don't eve know what that is. So I am certainly more inclined to believe it bombed.

>>723192470
If that were true at least the steamcharts faggots would have a point.

What's wrong with xenonauts 2

>>723204889
I never understood how the militarized police are understaffed and the criminals are so abundant that you HAVE TO often escape from missions with infinite spawning enemies. The writing and most of the character designs were awful too.
At the very least it is non canon that humans have Viper strip clubs to enjoy.

>>723204889
unfortunately the series was already dead and buried internally before chimera squad even released. chimera squad only existed because the devs were begging to make an XCOM 3 and management finally relented and let them make this spin off

>>723209615
it's not done

did that gooner xcom-style game ever come out and was it any good?

>>723209683
now canon*

>>723192271 (OP)
>you didnt buy our marvel slop game so XCOM isnt coming back!
thanks firaxis, and now civ is dying too

>>723192764
>>723193358
I personally find playing wih 5 squadmembers the sweetspot. for some reason the moment it goes over to 6 my brain loses object perminance and I forget who I have and haven't moved.

>we must defend the earth from aliens
Nice, I agree.
>We must defend the earth from aliens, but some of them stay.
Wait waht.
>We must defend the aliens on earth from the evil humans who want them to leave.
Yo. This game is shit and I'm glad its over. Never forget why this series doesn't exist anymore. It died drowning in WOKE PISS.

>>723209745
Firaxis are retarded and losing Jake was their biggest mistake.

>>723203059
also, just plot wise, 2 left with purposeful plot hooks for 3.

>>723192271 (OP)
>Make perhaps the greatest Tactics game in the west
>Disappear for a few years
>Come back, release a shovelware casual title
>Die
What was their master plan?

>>723210847
Firaxis bosses were filtered by 90% misses so they scrapped the series.

I miss when the aliens were alien

>>723208059
>i tried veteran ironman a couple times and got owned on the first blacksite mission every time until i kinda gave up
start is always the absolute hardest. once you get more party members and abilities/items, it becomes evidently managable.
TBF when I died in iron man 1/2 the time I force quite before it could auto save.

>>723208794
It's ok. It has a severe case of corporate meddling.

>>723210916
war of the chosen was the point of no return where they turned the aliens into cringe anime OCs with dialogue

>>723192271 (OP)
I miss real xcom

>>723192271 (OP)
this game was such wasted potential
we could have had proper resistance fighting, setting up cells across the world, having them be overrun regularly, having to work with not just rookies but civilians with a lot more spirit than capacity

basically make you feel like you're the underdog clawing your world back

instead we got superheroes

>>723192271 (OP)
Stop stalking me, I just started playing this game again a few days ago

>>723212248
The aliens spent too much time on Earth. They became contaminated, not with pathogens, but with cringe.

>>723212891
>Invade earth
>become woke
How did we do this?

Any spare XCOM 2 keys from Amazon Prime floating around out there? I got one for myself and have been looking for extras for friends, but they're surprisingly hard to find.

>>723213103
Human culture is too strong, so the aliens absorbed it over time like a sponge since the Elders removed all of their respective cultural roots. They were doomed to get infected by all aspects of it, not just the cool stuff.

>>723192765
Have you tried the 40k mods for Open Xcom Extended? Janky but full of soul, especially if you were a fan of the OG Chaos Gate.

>>723194953
I actually ended up enjoying that game as well. Tacking the XCom name onto it was a detractor though, and would have been better as an ending reveal of the origins of the XCom project.

>>723192271 (OP)
jake left the studio and is working on some the sims clone now. I wonder if anyone is working the next title

>>723203059
Because Firaxis and 2K are dumb and basically wrote off the IP as having any further value for some reason. Chimera Squad was made on a budget and mechanically had some things going for it, but its characters and abysmal writing tanked any real chance it had.

>>723209615
STILL in early access after all this time, and apparently they made some poor decisions around progression requirements that people really don't like.

>>723214752
Jake is working on paralives?

>>723214752
>Sims clone
Really? It is a pass for me unless I can have my not-Sims woo a snake waifu. C’mon Jake, you know what the people want!

>>723210847
The games were giving humanity some bad ideas that the global shadow government run by ayys didn't like. So they had to kill off the IP.

>>723192271 (OP)
>make awesome reboot
>make an also good sequel that has a controversial central element
>immediately give up when people complain and make a bunch of deislop instead
why did they do it

I just wish that OpenApocalypse got finished. For whatever reason I want to play Apoc again but don't want to have to try and wrangle and older copy of the game.

>>723214885
Maybe with mods. They seem pro-modding.

>>723214954
Crashing this franchise, with no survivors.

>>723202410
every fucking time

play hero lodge

>>723214752
Wasn't Jake working on the star wars xcom

>>723195768
In XCOM 1 early bomb missions are not even worth trying. Even with lasers they are tough and I skip them until plasma.

>>723192271 (OP)
play Hard West

>>723192348
but i have for 500 hours and i want something new

there is a star wars xcom coming out that i believe is made by some xcom devs. remains to be seen if its good because star wars and good are words that dont go together
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggo6OKeKNAY

>>723192271 (OP)
Why? It was woke slop

>>723210916
In UFO Defence most of the aliens were genetically and mechanically altered terrestrial creatures. Just the same as in XCOM 2.

The snakemen in UFO Defence didn't have tits, but giving them tits in the later games was a big upgrade.

I would love a redux of the original XCom, but 3D and uses the Phoenix Point battle system for the missions. Because that manual aiming and locational damage stuff becomes pretty fun once you wrap your head around it.

>>723220183
the aliens in XCOM 2 arent altered earth life, they are the aliens from the previous game enhanced with human genetics

>>723202410
>it's Payne!

I've got a LWOTC campaign going on
I play it every week
I posted about it last time, I think something like 'look at my guys uniforms'

>played with a vanilla+ modlist that changed the alert mechanics
Constant pods running into me in the middle of a fight holy fuck it was so hard

>>723194953
I liked it too Anon, campy as fuck but a cool overall atmosphere. Not a "play it over and over" kind of game but a good bang for however much it cost.

>>723192271 (OP)
>tfw find out that Jake Solomon is working on a life sim game
>https://www.videogameschronicle.com/features/interviews/xcoms-jake-solomon-on-his-new-studio-and-what-went-wrong-with-midnight-suns/

So much for Xcom 3.

>>723193924
This

>>723214674
>Tacking the XCom name onto it was a detractor though
I think so too. I think it really coloured people's expectations and probably hurt it more than it helped it.

>>723209364
#worksonmymachine

>>723210962
not to be that guy, but what's the point of iron man then (if it was related to a bug or crash i understand though)

>>723192271 (OP)
If you haven't beat Xcom long war of the chosen on long war impossible difficulty you have not played Xcom, get to it.

>>723192271 (OP)
I'm hoping Mechanicus 2 will have destructible enviroments, watching destroyed map after extraction was the best part of Xcom

Don't worry OP I also miss XCOM, so I'm starting to learn UE5 so that in 20 years I would be ready to make my own version of X-Piratez but in 3d.
I'm being 100% serious about this btw, the only reason I'm not making an XCom-like for my first game is that I want to get some game dev experience first.

its right there nigga just open the game

>>723229845
>tranimeshit
god you are a faggot

>>723192271 (OP)
here have some cute and jank anime xcom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7DiHaZHHtQ

>>723204889
This was spin-off game. They launched it at 50% off ($10) for a week or something. Clearly they didn't have much confidence in it.

Jagged Alliance 3 is pretty fun

why jake hate Terror from the Deep so damn much? the ending scene in XCOM2 literally implied some sort of reboot TFTD but fuck that jake guy dumbshit nigga! I mean why even bother foreshadowing the next xcom gonna go deep sea hunting alien in your fucking campaign?!

>>723233753
I really love JA3, but I can see why JA2 fans probably don't like it as much as I do. If I could take the movement/combat mechanics of JA3, the weapon synergies of Wasteland 3 and the sandbox of XCOM 2, I'd have a game I'd play for years.

>>723236631
>the weapon synergies of Wasteland 3
Huh?

>missed out on alien rules because i waited too long to scan the initial POI and that bugs out the mission
wow
i doubt they were anything challenging anyway considering final mission was a cakewalk
still a bummer

>>723236919
What I mean is that, a lot like JA3, certain attacks will trigger status effects, bleeding, concussions, blinding, you can add elemental damage to ignite, freeze, etc. some perks can then interact with those status effects to deal more damage or apply a different status. How you go about building your team, the weapons you give them, can change your entire approach to fights because some weapons can guarantee certain effects.

>>723194280
What if i want to make a game inspired by OldCOM?

>>723192348
>Play Central's archives
>Lazarus Project
>First mission is you with 3 fucking soldiers
>One is a rookie fuck templar
>A total of 3 pods
>One with an officer, two mooks, and a stun lancer
>Another with officer, two mook, and priest
>Last with Sectoid, purifier, mook, officer, and stun lancer
Jesus Christ that shit was AIDS.

>>723192470
As if any noble auroch acts like a goycattle.

I'm still sad that the Vipers never got an official figure/statue. I want a tiny snek lady to just exist in the corner of my room on my bookshelf.

>>723222576
WHACK 'IM

>>723192271 (OP)
Midnight Suns is their best game. XCOM 2 was garbage.

>xcom3 finally comes out
>10 years time skip
>you actually lost the previous war, the rebellion failed, and the REAL bad aliens show up to conquer Earth
I'll laugh

Show me ur posters

>>723229845
What's so great about LWotC?
Looking at the mod page doesn't explain that much

>>723240442
Have you played a Long War mod before? It's basically a free expansion made by fans. The devs of Xcom EW called their own game a tutorial for Long war.
LWOTC is the same, it makes the Chosen more competent it gives them new actions, abilities, missions, ways to attack your havens.
It's just a straight up improvement over the base game but it does come with increased difficulty and play time. This is where you have to master the strategy layer to win.

>>723240252
no
this is a blue board

>>723238597
Hey are those tits on that snake!?

>>723242284
> tiny snek lady to just exist in the corner of my room on my bookshelf.

>>723242284
Those are CLEARLY venom sacs. C'mon man, geeze...

>>723208794
but no one played

>>723228704
Yeah and XCOM2 at max settings with all DLC and a dozen mods running at once #worksonmymachine you gay sounding faggot, but the pile of Chimera shit wouldn't.
How pathetic you are to defend that game.

Now that the smoke has cleared can we agree that Chimera Squad wasn't actually that bad?

>>723203059
They moved on to marvel slop.

>>723233514
Yeah, I remember. That's how much I paid for it. I remember seeing that and being filled with an uneasy sense of dread.
Why would they launch a new XCOM game for $10? The previous ones were great and worth every penny I paid for them. Why would this one be so cheap? I shouldn't worry about it. It's still XCOM. It'll be great!
It was not great. It was so fucking far from great.

They should make xcom but with Half Life characters in Half Life

>>723209745
>unfortunately the series was already dead and buried internally before chimera squad even released
Why though? XCOM was a hit. EW made it even better. XCOM2 was an even bigger hit. The DLCs made it even better. The franchise was on fire. Internally, the suits should have been begging the team to make an XCOM3 game and print them free money.

>>723245085
suits are insane
they got the marvel licence so that's the only thing they wanted to work on. marvel is popular (lol) and prints money! (lmao even)

>>723244492
Fuck you. I hope you choke.

>>723245445
I like Marvel, but that doesn't mean I like everything Marvel. I'm not going to pretend like the original batch of Marvel movies weren't good because contrarians like to shit on them now. However, for me, those movies topped off at the 1st Avengers movie. I know most normies were just getting excited for the new thing at around that point, but even for the normies, Avengers 3 was a very clear signal that the Marvel fad is over.
For the non-normies like me who liked Marvel, we're burnt out. We liked what Marvel was, not what it is now. Normies will always chase the new fad. They don't actually care about it. They just want to fit in and feel like they belong or are popular because they also pretend to like what is popular. For the rest of us though, we saw the thing we like change to appease the normies. Now the thing we liked, is no longer the thing we liked. Marvel is on a huge downward trend now and executive suits are too delusional to acknowledge it.

>>723233814
For the longest time I hated Terror from the Deep. I hated the color pallete, I hated the goofy Seamen art direction... It wasnt until I stumbled upon a Ben and Lewis save the world playthrough of it, where they had their units inside a dark cave underwater at the bottom of the ocean surrounded by nothing but darkness and those brain things that turn your humans into zombies, that I realised that Terror from the Deep is possible the scariest fucking Xcom ever. I hope to god Xcom 3 is a soft reboot of it.

the first 3 games are such boomerslop, unplayable pigshit by comparison to the new ones

>>723244492
Coming off of Wasteland 2 at the time, I actually really enjoyed the breaching and timeline mechanics it had, I just didn't think it did enough with them. There should've been ways to influence your timeline position off of the breach and with your equipment, instead of it purely being ability based. Making the characters set in specific roles was a bad idea too I think, several of the characters were the best in slot but were fucking insufferable to listen to.

Just play xpiratez

>>723246382
>Retarded zoomie can only handle having 2 grenades and 1 rocket per squaddie

>>723220183
Revealing that thin men, who are described as creepy infiltrators stuck the uncanny valley, were actually troons was also a nice lore touch.

>>723240442
It turns it into an actual resistance experience with an extremely intricate strategy layer and a lot more tools to use in the tactical layer.
Everything is revamped with more depth like class builds where individual soldiers stats/xcom row perks dictate how they're built, research is padded out a bit more to make weapon damage scaling more linear instead of massive power spikes, a number of new enemies to flesh out roles for advent.

The biggest turn off for most people is the strategy layer; the game doesn't hold your hand telling you what missions to do when and in the original LW2 obfuscated a number of game-overs that LWOTC fixes, but a lot of people get 50 hours in and didn't even realize they lost the game 30 hours ago with 2 tremendous fuck ups.

Personally I can't play the game without it but I understand it's not everyone's cup of tea losing until you don't. it also doesn't fix waterworld being the most unfun dogshit

>>723195594
fucking this, its annoying as shit.

>>723242668
>man holding his ayylium snek daughter in the palm of his hands while his ayylium snek wife takes a cute picture (Vipers are born really tiny)

>>723240093
Honestly, even though I'd be disappointed, I'd just be happy to have another XCOM. Personally I think the best way to go about making an XCOM 3 is to have it set after victory with the world devolving into a myriad of different factions vying for control that XCOM has to either destroy or incorporate into a united faction, with the option to recruit or destroy any deserted alien straggler groups you come across.