Thread 723218636

https://massgrave.dev/windows_ltsc_links

Download the chosen LTSC you want (Win 11 or 10) and you will still get the necessary security updates for many years to come. Added bonus is the lack of bullshit software built it. But doesn't mean you can't add it later.

Be warned, developers could drop windows 10 support so newer games in the future may not work on win 10 LTSC. So you could opt for Win 11 LTSC and still bypass the Microsoft account nonsense.

security updates are bullshit

>>723218636 (OP)
>So you could opt for Win 11 LTSC
Was thinking of just doing this with my new PC but is there anything new?

>>723218636 (OP)
I just did the powershell thing for now.

>>723218636 (OP)
No. Now fuck off

>>723218636 (OP)
I'll just keep using Linux, thanks.

>>723218887
a nice laggy reactjs GUI which looks like shit

>>723218636 (OP)
w10 pro with esu until that's done then I go to LTSC

gee Tomasz how come your mom lets you have ten komputer

You have extended support already if white. Ltsc is an unnecessary meme like linux, almost as loud of a userbase too kek

>>723218636 (OP)
Nah I'm gonna keep using 10

>>723219076
I also use Linux. But I also know that some games just don't work on it thanks to the bullshit easy anti cheat or kernel level access anti cheat like that on BF6

So it's another alternative.

I was considering Ltsc, but I’m finally switching to Linux. Better do it now than postpone again and again.

>>723219376
shut up kurwa baster bitch

>>723218636 (OP)
>the necessary security updates
lol fuck off

>>723218636 (OP)
>developers could drop windows 10 support so newer games in the future may not work on win 10 LTSC
you know this means nothing right. also 10 LTSC doesnt support DX12.2 when the OS runs the same base version as the regular w10 that had dx12.2 shipped in. just install 11 LTSC or use linux instead

>>723219764
good luck with hrt

>switched to W11 IoT almost a year ago
>zero problems besides a few nitpicks like multi-monitor taskbar still being dogshit
The fact that some people need to be told to install the IoT versions of W10 or W11 is already troubling.

>>723220372
Judging by various posts before I made this thread, most don't seem to be aware of it. So it's good to just mention it and give a link.

anon don't spoonfeed the retarded niggers on this board

>>723220265
but sir you must do the needful sir

>PC upgraded recently
>still says it can't run W11
I dunno man, probably need to flip something in the bios

i used to do this until there was a game that i couldn't play a few years ago because of it and had to reformat, just switch to windows 11 and get over yourself it doesn't fucking matter

>>723222134
>just switch to windows 11
No tongue my anus

>>723220372
Most people wouldn't even know what to search for, which is why it's good to spread the word

>>723222134
Why kind of dog shit game, that requires a certain variant of windows 10, are you playing shill?

>>723218636 (OP)
>Be warned, developers could drop windows 10 support so newer games in the future may not work on win 10 LTSC.
I already use LTSC, you don't have to sell it to me.

>>723218636 (OP)
KUP TERAZ!

>>723218636 (OP)
I have a 3 digit IQ so I'll stick with Linux, thanks.

>>723225629
080, niggy?

>>723218636 (OP)
No thanks, it's too jank for normal use.
I'll stick to my rufus'd 11 Pro install.

Any niggers that "upgraded" to 11, do you need to reinstall all the apps or windows doesnt break them nowadays?

>>723226346
Who the fuck doesn't clean install windows?
I fucking clean install Windows yearly even
Its like spring cleaning your house, feels good man

>accept all the spyware, forced online, AI bloat and adverts
OR
>spend hours tinkering with debloating scripts and the registry to remove most (not all) of that stuff, and then do it again every time windows update re-enables something or adds a new "feature" without your consent
OR
>just install Linux and have complete control over your PC

>>723226402
my lazy ass, next question

>>723225629
you're a subhuman you mean

>>723226468
second option :)

>>723226517
Better than the first, but I never understood why someone who's technical enough to work the command line and the registry doesn't just move to Linux which is the same experience but without Microsoft getting in your way.

>>723218636 (OP)
So how do i got about activating this without paying .

>>723226602
Cause linux is gay

>>723226468
>just install Linux and have complete control over your PC
Don't forget to mention that you have to spend hours tinkering with the terminal to get anything to work and interact with the most insufferable people on the internet if you want help doing it.

>>723218636 (OP)
I often wonder who would be stupid enough to use Linux while having gaming as a hobby, then I remember /v/ doesn't play videogames and it all makes sense

>>723226468
>just install Linux and have complete control over your PC and have to emulate windows half the time anyway
Ftfy

The only thing windows security has ever done was not allowing me to play pirated games unless I made exceptions for them. If you're not completely retarded you won't need those security updates anyway.

>>723220372
Windows 11 internet of things?

>>723226808
retards like you got anally devastated by wannacry over a decade ago

>>723218636 (OP)
ltsctroons or linuxtroons, who's more obnoxious?

>>723226921
linuxtroons

I just can't be bothered to format my PC again.

>>723226897
except i wasn't?

>get offered the enrolment into an extra year of security updates for free
Phew. I can put this to the back of my mind for another year.

>>723226991
Only positive to live in the EU right now, i guess

>>723220372
>multi-monitor taskbar still being dogshit
How dogshit are we talking?

Nah, once the Win 10 support goes, I'm switching to Linux for good. I don't give a single fuck what game I'm missing, there's a whole backlog worth of games that'll take a lifetime to complete, and all that's waiting for me.
The gaming industry is basically on its last legs at this point anyway. I'm just hoping for a 1983-style crash again so the industry can be reborn and we can get good games again.

>>723227084
>I'm just hoping for a 1983-style crash again so the industry can be reborn and we can get good games again.
Me too. Sail the seas and accelerate the process of this happening in our lifetime.

>>723227084
The videogame crash can literally never happen again anon. At best you can hope for a majority of the companies to collapse, but you'll still be left with atleast a few trillion dollar titans who suck the money out of every normalfag with their yearly sportsgames.
Even if literally the entire industry implodes, there will still be indiefags making the next $5 sloppa for everyone to gravitate to at the very least.

>>723226643
You can do it all with ChatGPT nowadays, it's trained on all the linux forums and stack pages.

There isn't a way to change my current 10 edition to another without wiping everything is there? I'd switch to LTSC or even Linux but I can't be assed restarting with my programs and installs unless I absolutely have to.

>>723227195
>Jeet AI
Even worse

>>723227084
have fun troubleshooting how to play said games on linux, like the rest of its users lmao
the only time i get reminded linux exists is in game forums asking others how to make the game play or in wallpaper threads when they post their ascii anime bullshit

>>723226795
What software do you use that only runs on Windows? I'm only aware of esports games with root-level anticheat like BF6 and expensive commercial stuff like Solidworks or Adobe which typically have free alternatives.

>>723227209
I hear massgrave can, but I never tried myself. Look into it at your own leisure.

>>723227084
>the post has "the industry" in it
>90/100 times it's some jaded faggot bitching and whining and virtue signaling
At this rate this phrase is gonna end up in my filters very soon.

>>723227324
Then get on with it so we don't have to put up with you

>>723227237
>troubleshooting how to play said games on linux
Most of the time it's just "pick the right proton version from the dropdown in steam".

>>723227084
>The gaming industry is basically on its last legs
>Record revenue and profits year after year
>More great games releasing every year
Have you tried playing something from anyone other than EA, Ubishit and Activision?

>>723218636 (OP)
use https://docs.amelabs.net/using-wizard/install-windows.html

>Apparently already had my Windows Settings backed up to MS at some point years ago
>Free Enrollment in Extended Support
One year longer, baby.

>>723227373
>we
You had several people write that post for you?
Would love to filter out preaching faggots like yourself, too, but I can't come up with good enough regex patterns.

>>723226468
The irony of a linuxfag pointing out "hours of tinkering" as a negative.

>>723227195
>"Uhg, I don't want to use W11 for all the shitty updates and AIslop"
>You should install Linux and use ChatGPT constantly so you can navigate your distro of choice! Also don't worry if AI hallucinates a solution up and it doesn't work, just happens sometimes
This is one of the worst attempts on OS switch I have seen in my life. Like TOP-5 levels.

I don't even remember ever making a MS account.
Can i just make one and claim the free 1-year update service?

What's stopping me from just continuing to use windows 10?

>>723218770
in what sense ? they don't patch anything ?

>>723226468
>Hours of tinkering with W11 = bad
>Hours of tinkering with your text-based Linux distro = good
Tired

>>723227426
When does the option show up?

>>723227405
>>Record revenue and profits year after year
>>More great games releasing every year
Keep swallowing that slop down your throat anon. I'm sure it's really tasty.

>>723227520
>using ChatGPT to summarize documentation is the same as having a Microsoft AI embedded in your system and scanning all your files 24/7

>>723227486
No. I'm just tired of hearing people whine about people whining and saying "Oh I am so gonna filter you, you don't even know!" and then refuse to actually go through with it. Get on with it, it's fucking easy.
>but I can't come up with good enough regex patterns.
Install 4chan X and use the post filter options, that's what I do to get rid of actual schizoposters and not people I just happen to disagree with.

>>723227574
If you're doing hours of tinkering anyway, why not just use Linux? The only excuse wintards ever have for not switching is "boo hoo I have to use the command line" and then you go and run random scripts from github to activate and debloat your OS.

>>723227560
me

>>723218636 (OP)
You don't need LTSC to use a local account.

>>723227608
>Using AI is the same as using AI
Yes.

>>723220372
I heard all Disgaea games on Steam are broken on W11, is this just fake news?

>>723227656
you better quit it

>>723226949
I used to reinstall Windows several times a year and it was no big deal. Now that I'm an adult, I hate looking for my preferred settings and don't want to install anything new.

>>723227703
hmm Ill think about it

>>723227609
I have a slew of filters that remove low quality garbage already, "the industry" isn't there yet, but it will be soon.
>Install 4chan X and use the post filter options, that's what I do to get rid of actual schizoposters and not people I just happen to disagree with.
The point of filters is to remove dogshit bottom of the barrel posts so you don't have to waste time looking at them at all, to hide something manually you still have to read it, you preachy fucking clown.

>>723227893
Kekaroo, NAFOid xisters?

>>723218636 (OP)
Gonna be honest I'm getting too old to deal with this shit I'll just install windows 11 and get it over with

So even if im in EU I still have to use a MS account to get free updates?

>>723228141
From what i read, you need one to register for the ESU.
And you need to stay logged in to get them or else they stop updating after a few weeks

>>723227893
>to hide something manually you still have to read it
4chan X has auto filters that will remove stubs and additionaly can filter any replies to the filtered post, which I find far superior to manual filtering.
>low quality garbage already, "the industry" isn't there yet
>90/100 times it's some jaded faggot bitching and whining and virtue signaling
You're way over-sensitive. To the point you're coming across as a paranoid schizophrenic over casual use of words. So hurry up and filter it already, because everyone really is out to get you and make your browsing experience worse. Gangstalking is real. I am part of a Discord specifically out to upset (You), we talk about it all the time.

>>723227893
I'm surprised with the amount of retardness in your list that you didn't blacklist the c word.

>>723228304
It's a good list to be honest, probably longer than would fit in a single screenshot though

>>723218636 (OP)
I was going to, but FSR4 crashes games on Win10
works fine on 11

>>723228376
Filtering /pol/turds I can agree with but several of these are normal 4chan speech. That's almost like you're saying you're pro censorship.

>>723228238
>4chan X has auto filters that will remove stubs and additionaly can filter any replies to the filtered post, which I find far superior to manual filtering.
What the fuck are you on about,? How is it gonna figure out "automatically" that I don't want to read about some fagola whining about DA INDUSTRY? You HAVE to write filters yourself, what you're talking about is called hiding and there's nothing automatic about it. I am using 4chan-x, retard.

>>723228462
>several of these are normal 4chan speech
Not a single thing in that screenshot predates 2014.

>>723218887
it has ai now. everyone loves ai right
and more start menu ads

>>723227893
>>723227486
>>723227324
Go back

I'm in the EU and I only see message "Enrollment for Windows 10 Extended Security Updates will be coming soon".

>>723228553
Using Win 11 Pro
No ads, no AI and am a local user

>>723226949
>>723227716
massgrave has a method that doesn't require formatting/clean install (still back up your files in case tho)

nah i'm good, ltsc just causes issues with certain software, i'll just stay on 10

>>723228524
Social justice warrior is a word from the 2000s, anon.

>>723229117
My Xbox controller wouldn't work with older versions of LTSC.

um excuse me

>>723229314
Never entered the 4chan lexicon until 2010 through 2014 when tumblrites really became a problem

>>723229379
Been here since 2024 and I disagree though we called them feminazis back in the days.

>>723229425
>Been here since 2024
I'm sure that must have been a typo

Finally~... No more updates... I'm a free man from now on.

>>723229486
Yeh sorry meant to say 2004, I'm retarded. Have an old meme as an apology.

>>723223689
nta, but Wabbajack won't run on ltsc.

>>723218636 (OP)
instead of linxu why not create an app to remove the bloatware windows have? are programmers really such hacks?

>>723229585
That taskbar looks suspiciously like Win98

>>723229585
>using the worst OS after ME

>>723229602
It used to run on LTSC, too. Crazy that they broke it because they're so shit at coding.

>>723229602
What? MO2, fuck even Vortex of all things still works on LTSC, MO2 will still run on Win7 even.

>>723219652
Thanks, but I don't play competitiveslop. Never have, never will.

>>723225629
I didn't realize IQs could go in the negatives

>>723229914
That range is reserved for macfags

>>723226795
>emulate windows
Wine Is Not an Emulator

>>723226468
Linux is only good if you don't value your free time.

I'm a retard, but wouldn't a version based on an older build lead to problems with newer software? My CPU is from 2024, as is my GPU.

LTSC is for jeets and troons
Real white men use home

>>723227505
>>723227574
Just pick an easy distro and you won't have to do any more tinkering than you would on wangblows.

>>723218636 (OP)
tried installing it keeps stopping 20% into install kill yourself im not doing shit

>>723218891
What powershell thing?

>>723227237
>troubleshooting
Such as? I've been using Linux exclusively for a couple years. For 90% of my games I just click play, maybe select a different proton version for 9% of games and the most I've ever had to do for 1% of games is use protontricks to install some dependency. I can't remember a single game I've had to refund because it didn't work, and I don't even check protondb before buying anymore since like a couple months after I switched to Linux.

>>723230537
What about games that are not on Steam?

>>723230118
There is no need to be disingenuous. Wangblows will require less tinkering than Linux and you know this. The tinkering is also just a one-off thing whereas with Linux you run the risk of having to do it multiple times because something you wanted to install didn't work out of the box.

>>723230562
Lutris for pirated games. Heroic for gog or if you're retarded enough to use ep*c.

>>723230731
If you pick something like mint (for regular desktop use) or bazzite (for gaming), no, it won't

>>723230736
What about my original discs from 25 years ago?

Stay on windows, don't get baited. Get talon's debloater and you will be fine.

>>723230887
>Get talon's debloater
virus, do not get

>>723231021
It's open source.

>>723230736
NTA but what about eroge from DLsite?

>>723231059
The download is just a zip with an .exe file and it tells you to whitelist it from defender lol

>>723227272
shareX
i'm told it's on AUR but i'm not transitioning when i'm dual booting already, and it's questionable whether it could even do the job i need it for because of the inherent sandboxing prevalent in linux, most likely preventing audio clipping from something like mpv.
it's the last program keeping me bound to micro$hart

>>723220372
>I have no standards why can't you as well?
Ok.

>>723227563
viruses dont exist

>>723230854
Rip them. You stupid jit?

>>723231260
Download them and run them through DXVK. Guaranteed all eroge and gacha are DX11 or below unless you're playing some Unreal Engine 4 patreon scam.

>>723230854
same shit
install with lutris,

>use massgrave to enable extended updates
>Your Windows 10 Pro is already permanently activated

Huh, ok then, guess I'm good for the next 3 years.

>>723231367
Why are you lying?

>>723230854
those work better on Linux than on Windows these days lol

>>723218636 (OP)
1 get windows ltsc original iso
2 defender remover script from github
3 privasy sexy script*
3.1 Optional Cris Titus tech windows script
4 install tinywall or any other firewall to control quaks from ur propietare spyware
???
Good boy, enjoy

>>723218636 (OP)
Nah, I’ll just install Arch

>>723231693
Why are you lying? You cloned the repo or used the github release. Average windows user isn't going to do that, they'll just follow the link in the readme to the .exe download.

>>723228524
It's this sort of braindead conservatism that killed this site.

>>723230197
https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts

>>723218636 (OP)
So how do I pirate that shit? Just install and KMSpico?

>>723218636 (OP)
I'm on W11 Enterprise 24h2
it just werks

>>723227563
Don't connect your laptop to public wifi and don't download tvshowx.ep10.mp4.exe files and no one will give a fuck about your system.
Why do you think hacker give a shot about random chumps? Succesfull business owners, government operations and similar are targets.
What value would hackers extract from you? Your steam library or something? Who gives a shit?

>>723220372
>IoT
You have no idea what this means and what the Windows IoT versions really are

>>723232249
>Criticize WEF or visit the wrong website
>[This windows account has been locked. Please visit a re-education camp to unlock this PC.]
Yeah would could go wrong. There's a reason they're only allowing TPM-enabled systems to install W11.

>>723232348
>locked
local account

>>723232267
>Hacker shoves in rootkit into any of the thousands of applications, libraries, modules or other dependencies your system uses
>PC either bricked or mining crypto for some east-european Igor
>"Just don't click on weird links bro, you'll be good bro"
Good luck dude. Ignorance is bliss.

>>723232230
/fwt/

>>723232008
so you telling me, they use a github page with 3k starts as advertising for the malware they've been hosting on their website for a year now? does that sound right to you? anyone concerned about security can just build from source.

>>723232114
Are you really going to claim that everything on that anon's list made this site better?

>>723232447
W11 still verifies you are using a certified install of their spyware, and takes a screenshot of your desktop every couple of seconds. So yes, be a good goy and you'll have no problems. Also if you truly think they removed Recall after the backlash, you are so naive and gullible I am actually jealous.

>>723232527
Where did I claim that? Care to quote me?

>>723232502
Glad these faggots are useful for once

>>723230731
I'm a Windowsfag, but all it takes is a one shitty update and all your work goes down the drain

>>723232646
>It's this sort of braindead conservatism that killed this site
You implied it because the inversion of this, which is what actually happened and what really killed this site, means you think all these buzzwords are good.

Thoughts? https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat

>>723232758
Will disable all the AI crap, onedrive, some other apps. Doesn't seem to do anything with telemetry. I'd recommend not touching anything UI related tho.

>>723232945
Nevermind it does telemetry too.

>>723232758
>>723232945
>>723233041

This is only for normie versions of Windows aka the ones installed on prebuilts you buy from the store. You don't need this shit for LTSC.


If you have a custom built PC (YOU) did yourself, you're way better off with Linux anyways why bottleneck your hardware with slow as shit software known as Windows kernel?

>>723218636 (OP)
You don't need to "debloat" Windows 11, nor do you need to install the thermostat edition. Big tech isn't spying on you via the weather app. The MS Store isn't slowing down your computer. Take your meds.

>>723218770
*gets dabbed on by zero day remote access exploit*

>>723233135
>Big tech isn't spying on you
you glow too much

>>723233192
It only happens to bad people

>>723232728
No, I implied a causal relation between that anon's desire to freeze the site's culture at an arbitrary point (braindead conservatism) and the sort of cultural degeneration exhibited by his word filter. Those buzzwords didn't just pop out of the ether.

>>723232680
This. Remember the 2024 Crowdstrike antivirus incident that affected millions of Windows-only PCs in companies, airpoirts, banks, hospitals, etc. , forcing people into booting into safe mode to perform the manual removal of a faulty driver or else your Windows is as good as gone? Remember the latest shitty official Microsoft security update, from this past August, for Windows 11, that actually made certain commercial SSD models become unaccesible and even deleted data found in them?

>>723233135
what is it about tripfags that makes them always have the most obnoxiously shit takes?

>>723218636 (OP)
I have no reason to go back to 10 just like I don't have a reason to move on from my Tiny11 24H2.

>>723233367
Ask yourself: What kind of "person" would want to be recognizable on an anonymous laotian jungle mouse grinding forum?

Linux is just so much better for gaming because there's zero shader stutter. Valve solved that problem two fold. Steam and RADV. Microsoft still hasn't for their entire operating system and Directx API.

>>723233403
based bot net retard

>>723227209
https://massgrave.dev/windows10_eol

>>723220372
You only hate Win11 if you either used 7 or tried Linux. Not even bare minimum stuff like middle click on taskbar to close program is possible without Winhawk hacks. You also need regedit edit / another hack to bring back the old right click menu. Like literally Windows became so shit it's unreal.

>>723226468
>just install Linux and have complete control over your PC until some mentally ill tranny decides to insert "le troon rites" in a file manager
ftfy

>>723233642
I hate Windows 11 because I had to reinstall the OS in my sister's laptop twice because of bitlocker bullshit. If I ever build her her own PC, it's getting Windows 10 IoT LTSC.

>>723218636 (OP)
good guy microsoft gave me another year of updates on 10 for nothing

>>723233870
hmmmmmm

What are the downsides of using LTSC or iot?

>>723231543
Microsoft never even tried to convince me why 11 is worthwhile. Instead it uses fearmongering shills lol. I didn't realize they're that desperate

>>723229585
I tried using Steam in Windows and it seems like you can't download games from it anymore. Tried downloading TORtanic and it kept getting stuck at 25% and giving me the "download error".

>>723232453
I have never had a virus in 25 years of using pc and never used antivirus or updated windows

literally just don't click spam mail and don't install random exes or shit that other people didn't try first

>>723234073
LTSC doesn't have this problem.

>>723234124
you're still on windows but you can pretend that it isn't spying on you

>>723234280
How do you know that?

>>723234280
t. proud botnet member

Let's look at the other case: Say I am convinced I am part of some botnet despite being most prudent in my approach, how can I even check for any unwanted shit?
>hurr durr check for weird processes
How the fuck am I supposed to do that when even a clean Windows installation already has a million svchost processes running and other shit that nobody who isn't a sperg doing nothing else can identify as bad or "just windows shittery"?

>>723218770
fippy bippy

>>723230038
stop parroting your favorite streamer

>>723227405
>Record revenue and profits year after year
and 90% is in the chinese market, and on mobile at that
>More great games releasing every year
lol, bait used to be believable

>>723227893
lol what a massive fucking faggot, go the fuck back, nigger

>>723227209
literally just did this last night on my main pc and laptop
you download the win10 iot iso, run a cmd line, install as normal, then use a iot product key and activate with the massgrave powershell script

>>723228495
you are the fagola here, retardditor

>>723227893
no one is impressed that you can write regex, you thin skinned retard

>>723234124
You have to install game video codecs manually

>>723227893
>All the schizos mad their comments can be filtered
kek. just write original comments. you're not ragebaiting bots, right?

>>723226468
>OR
>run a single program one time
>hit apply
>reboot
Wow so hard.

>>723227893
sh@lom r@bbi

Surprised my thread has lasted as long as it did.

Read the replies and it seems more are interested or are using linux.

If someone is wanting to move to Linux but concerned due to having to use terminal alot, then I suggest using Bazzite or CachyOS (especially if you are using nvidia gpus, as CachyOS does work out if the box with it).

CachyOS has a fantastic wiki that I use if I ever run into issues. Which I have, won't lie. But most issues are easy fixes. Was able to get all the games I play (some old, some new) with little effort. Now most games I install now just works (first install configurations that work on future install of games).

Currently local accounts can still be done on windows 11 25h2, but current test windows doesn't allow it. Will it be a problem then jn the future? Probably. Hopefully the team at Rufus figures it out.

Otherwise, windows 11 25h2 LTSC IoT does exist.

>>723228553
I thought Copilot wasn't included in LTSC builds (not to mention that including AI assistants wouldn't make any sense considering the primary purpose of LTSC builds)?

>>723228553
i've had win11 on my work pc for months now with Explorer Patcher and it looks identical to 10
the only thing that sucks is the right click menus are a little bit laggy but it uses the old ones

>>723229117
Like what?

>>723236712
I'd use EndeavorOS or Mint instead if you're a Linux noob.

Once you get comfortable with Linux you can move onto CachyOS or Bazzite as you now understand their quirks more.

>>723219652
You have to jump through hoops to get the Vanguard Real Time Corruptor emulators working on Linux, it involves a complicated process with Lutris that I myself haven't even figured out. I can't wait to corrupt videogames again though...

>>723229634
Worse than that, they're Indian.

>>723227893
>DIY hugbox filters
If you don't have the bodily autonomy of a quadriplegic and the impulse control of a subsaharan vantablack nigger, you don't need to outsource your agency to scripts. But thanks for filtering yourself out of discussion.

>>723229634
>>723237152
Windows is bloated at the core. You are thinking too noob level. The kernel and wddm and dwm.exe itself cannot be "unbloated". To unbloat it means starting over aka a brand new OS like Linux.

>>723226602
I like playing video games

>>723237083
I've used Mint before but not endeavor. Mint is indeed easy but requires driver management for nvidia. While CachyOS does not.

With that said, easiest would be Bazzite. Since it's an Atomic distro (not exactly fully locked down but sorta is) that relies mostly on flatpaks for nearly everything outside of gaming, it's really hard to screw up. And most important software currently has a flatpak variant aside a few (DaVinci resolve & Winboat from top of my head), then I imagine it works for most users.

>>723237163
Ask me how I know you start immediately shitting and pissing your pants when you see a current year vidya female.

>>723237163
>discussion
There's nothing in these filters that removes actual discrussion, just cancerous bickering.

>>723232535
>takes a screenshot of your desktop every couple of seconds.
Would (you) believe me if I told (you) that Windows 10 also does this?

>>723235845
>You have to install game video codecs manually
What the shit?? is this true?
so basically if you install a game on Steam it wont just install all the necessary Direct X's and all that shit automatically?

>>723237384
You can setup nvidia drivers automatically during Endeavor install.

I do not like recommending CachyOS or Bazzite to noobs because they rely on custom kernel tweaks that breaks various games. You need to be an advanced user to know this stuff. Endeavor/Mint is just stock latest Arch kernel.

>>723237628
Arch/Debian kernel*

>>723218636 (OP)
LTSC doesn’t have the proper audio drivers I need to use recording software so it’s a no go for me

>>723227060
Not at all besides the ethernet and audio buttons not showing on the secondary screen. The window snap is even better than 10's when it comes to drawing tablets.
Everything else is on par with W10 LTSC, even the calculator hasn't changed.

>>723218636 (OP)
>No new DXR updates: Recently announced updates, such as DirectX Raytracing (DXR) 1.2, require the most current Windows releases to function. This update, announced at GDC 2025, includes performance enhancements like Opacity Micromaps (OMM) and Shader Execution Reordering (SER). These improvements are inaccessible to LTSC users.

Might as well install WIn11 LTSC, I'm using Win10 LTSC and it won't let me enable ray tracing in newer games, Silent Hill f won't even run on DX12 and throws and error stating that my PC doesn't support it

>>723233642
for me is the VISIBLE LAG you get when trying to open the context menu

>>723236712
>Surprised my thread has lasted as long as it did
That's the thing, Windows 10 was as stable as it could get (as long as you kept system "updates" off) and still very widely used, and the only reason why Windows 11 got a higher marketshare was because of people buying new laptops with 11 Home preinstalled. There was no reason whatsoever for Windows 10 to reach end of life when it's still a very popular OS used both by users and businesses, and especially when 11 wasn't even compatible with a lot of PCs because of secure boot bullshit, so you will soon start seeing landfills getting filled to the brim with "old" PCs now that they're being forced to switch them to machines compatible with 11.

I'm sticking with 10 IoT LTSC for as long as I humanly can, and surely by 2032 Linux will be popular enough for almost every program to be compatible with it without depending on Windows emulation.

>>723220339
>so newer games in the future may not work on win 10 LTSC
you can get most current games running on fucking 7 still, this type of FUD is retarded and has no basis on reality

>>723237396
>implying I'd keep up with, let alone buy modern minimally viable, triple-ass turboslop
lol
lmao
>>723237485
Ah, yes, this nigerian mudbrick architecture board is renonwed for its formal expression and everyone posting on here is always meaning whatever they type. Thin-skinned niggercattle. Again, thanks for removing yourself.

>>723218636 (OP)
>IoT LTSC 2021 is the only way to receive security updates for Windows 10 after October 2025.
>No, You can activate ESU in Windows 10 as well.

>>723218636 (OP)
Come home white man

>>723227084
What's the best distro for games, I cicle between Stellaris, Euro Truck and Sims every month of so for the past decade.

>>723227195
>>723226643
if you ever tried using AI to get stuff working you would know that's a terrible fucking idea
best case scenario it will tell you to run commands that just don't exist worse case it will literally brick your install

>>723237054
creative software and development ide's etc

>deferred my problem for a whole year with ESU
Least I got more time to see how the Linux game plays out before I decide which one to migrate to

>>723237810
You can go on the archives, input any word or phrase from that filter list, and find out that none of the posts that pop up are worth reading.
The buzzword diarrhea you just shat out makes me 100% certain you've never written anything worth reading either.

LTSC is the only windows I'll use

>>723218636 (OP)
>Windows 10 finally reach end of life
>computer fans start spinning rapidly and smoke is coming out of the casing
>controls are locked
>hard drive start filing up with pornography and viruses
NOOOOO WHY DIDN'T I UPDATE?!!! AAAAAA IT BURNS! I DIDN'T EVEN USED MY SSD!

>>723237992
Niggercattle, tell me, why do you frequent an free-for-all board, filtering it into a blank catalogue and wait for someone to present you with "content" tailored to your sensibilities, if there are dozens of parasocial digital-daycare botfarms that are curated to death by feelgood algorithms?

>>723238221
>>hard drive start filing up with pornography
You should thank your coomer hacker friends, now THAT is what i call premium service. Hopefully not gay sex videos

>>723238303
>why yes, I enjoy throwing shit, eating shit and being presented with nothing but shit, and I enjoy perpetuating this eternal shit-cycle by being the most cancerous double nigger faggot possible, how could you tell?
"People" like you have killed imageboards and I wish a painful death upon you and your ilk.

>>723238303
I visit a lot of other forums for discussion, not just here. I just don't like low quality posts, so I choose to not read or see them.
The better question is why are you so buttbothered by the fact that your low quality shitposts might not get seen by a random person on the internet.

>>723237836
>Arch with disabled animations and placebo performance "enhancements"
Actual white men use Arch itself

>>723238417
Can you share your complete list of naughty words you're incapable of handling, niggercattle?
>>723238469
>buttbothered
I've expressed my gratitude for your decision to filter yourself out of threads and discussions, twice.

>>723238638
Trannies use arch itself though

>>723218636 (OP)
Stfu fag why are you spoonfeeding retards? Fucking zoomers ruin everything

>>723238790
Trannies also breath air, but don't hold your breath

>>723238916
>Unequivocal argument
Try again troon

>>723219764
Been there done that, you won't like it and you'll just waste time installing windows again

>>723238730
>I've expressed my gratitude
Yep, u mad
>your decision to filter yourself out of threads and discussions
The filters from that list don't remove anything worthwhile. Have your "discussions" about trans fellas, cuckold fantasies, conspiracy theories, various -oomers, etc. all you want, please.

>>723238790
>Trannies use arch itself though

>>723238912
Who's a zoomer? I'm 40 years old ffs.

>>723234714
by logging your network activity

>>723238638
Only troons have the autism required for Arch.

>Ran the massgrave powershell scripts last night
>Thought "that's handled"
>Read through this thread
Oh what the fuck. I thought just running the scripts would turn on extended support and that's all you had to do. Why are people here making it look like a complex multistep bullshit process

>>723238912
>>723218636 (OP)
Massgrave connects to a non-Microsoft domain for activation. It's not like other scripts that just flip some switches with PowerShell commands. You're literally getting people to connect to an untrusted third party who can do literally anything they want to your PC because you've given them admin access. I'm pretty sure this is just some Russian/Chinese psyop to get more people connected to his botnet.

>filter out dall-e, drawthreads and complete garbage like single letter/dot threads
>this is somehow a hugbox
i'd never click on them in the first place though, all this does is skip me from having to ignore it

>>723237836
>>723239297
COME HOME WHITE MAN

>>723239513
a-HEM. Rule 10, chuddie. >>723239297

>>723239542
I still don't see what's the problem, I went and activated Extended Support on my old laptop with 10 Pro, which only required copy-pasting a script and choosing what I wanted to activate, but since I had already used massgrave to activate it some months ago, it just told me that it was already permanently activated. I guess it's only a matter of waiting and see what happens, and in the worst case scenario, I can just go to the next step which is upgrading to IoT LTSC instead.

>>723239240
>Yep, u mad
Niggercattle, all you need to do is scroll and, if you really can't handle naughty words, momentarily close your eyes as you scroll. But no, naturally you can't do that, because you have, again, the bodily autonomy of a quadriplegic and the impulse control of a subsaharan vantablack nigger. You'll continue giving me (You)s and proving my point, because you just can't help yourself.
You're competitively obedient, terminally domesticated debtcattle who reacts to squiggles and noises, not to actual human expression. For the third time, thank you for filtering yourself out of threads and discussion -- it's not fun bullying people like you, because you strike me as genuinely clinically retarded and unfit to use sites like 4chan, and the internet at large, without supervision.

>>723239628
>ads for merch

>>723239813
uh-oh u mad lol

>>723239813
>wordwordswords
The retard faggot can't meme

>>723239006
If you can't figure out how to dual boot linux and windows, linux is the wrong OS for you.

>>723239297
Just use Omarchy

>>723239746
>>723239542
Do you see "this PC is enrolled for extended updates" in Windows Update? If you see that then it worked.

>>723239813
>being this mad because 1 (one) anon won't see your posts

>>723238221
>I DIDN'T EVEN USED MY SSD
Good to know these sorts of shitposts are made by ESLs

>>723239980
Anyone who uses anything with systemd deserves this

>reformat to get updates
No you retard
https://massgrave.dev/windows10_eol

>>723239868
>>723239923
>>723240014
Thanks for the (You)s, niggercattle.

>all these retards blindly running massgrave
do they know?

>>723240175
Know what?

>>723239813
>filtering out the "stellar blade wife of Maciejchiki" spam means you're inhuman
ok thanks sharteen

>>723232319
They're the same they just get an extra year. They're for like kiosks and shit but it doesn't matter

>>723240220
;)

>>723239542
You grossly overestimate most people's computer skills, and yes, launching .bat file and following instructions is, for majority of people, a "skill" that they lack.

>>723240168
>I-I'M NOT MAD! YOU ARE MAD!
Oh you :3

>>723239813
>please please PLEASE PLEASE u have to acknowledge my existence please please PLEASE dont use filters or ur a... um... *checks notes for epic 4chan slurs* b-black n-n-nigger
hmmm... nyo :)

>>723235163
I don't watch any streamer because I value my free time, which is why I post here from work. When I get home I don't want to deal with Linux just like I don't post here when I'm off the clock.

>>723240006
I guess it does not, it still gives me the message saying that Windows 10 support will end on October 2025, and gives me the option register to ESU, which in turn says that I'm already eligible without cost until 2026, so now I'm not sure if I should continue with the registration.

>>723240318
>says no
>continues to acknowledge his existence by replying to him
I don't get it

>>723240358
If you register via windows update you get one year support. Supposedly the massgrave thing gives you 3 but I don't trust it. I guess you could do both and just wait a year to see if you're still enrolled past 2026

>>723239542
You need to manually change something in order to be able to update in place, there's like a million youtibe videos showing it

>>723240492
its ok ur just not very good at reading

>>723240520
I think I'll do that. As I said, worst comes to happen, I'll just switch to IoT LTSC. This laptop is almost 7 years old at this point, it's a miracle it's still working fine with virtually no damage on the shell or the hinges, that's why I want to extend its life as much as I can, especially since I just bought it a new battery last month.

>>723218636 (OP)
I'm on 11 pro with a fuckton of registry edits for removing/reverting retarded 11 shit, can I just change to ltsc? Will I lose anything or need to redo all the registry stuff?

>>723240263
>what's bodily autonomy
>what's impulse control
Oy vey.
>>723240315
>>723240318
>pottery
The gayest renditions of "lalala I can't hear" and "No you!", presented by "people" who can't handle naughty words or operate their mousewheel. Thanks for the (You)s.

>>723240650
>it's a miracle it's still working fine
Is it? Mine is a good 6 years old now and had GF not dropped it once chipping a corner off a hinge it would still be in pristine condition.
And it still works well.

>>723240045
>EFL brownoid seething when his jewish overlords get criticized

>>723240520
All masssgrave does is trick Windows into thinking it's activated. All updates come from MS obviously...

It's open source and has been used millions of times for years

>>723240775
EFL is not the insult you think it is, holy shit you cowfuckers are dumb

>>723239813
they hated him because he spoke the truth

*samefags*

>>723240779
The problem is he used Massgrave for the 3 year support and Windows Update doesn't show he's enrolled. Even if it works for Windows activation, it hasn't been shown to work for ESU updates yet. The only way we'd know Massgrave works for ESU is if we wait for the first ESU update and see if Massgrave ESU activated PCs get it.

I don't see why you wouldn't just upgrade to the same OS everyone else is using. Video games have to be made for it and if you think something's ugly or clunky someone will figure out a workaround.

>>723240775
The other anon is right, you should have used "EOL", though him being american, it's basically the same.

>>723240849
>being a mutt who can only talk english is good actually
Yes I'm sure it is, Pedro

>just cancerous bickering.
the irony of that entire reply chain

>>723227893
Good list, will steal.

>>723233135
Three letter agent glow so bright

>>723233519
Unbased unaware retard who clearly doesn't know about Tiny11 at all.

>>723237251
Good news, they work on Linux now.

>>723240754
Yeah, it's an HP Envy that was even bought second-hand, only has 4GB or soldered RAM, an i3 CPU and 119 GB of SSD, but it has rarely caused me trouble, it already outlived my sister's two laptops. If it ever breaks, I'll just get a Thinkpad or I'll shell the extra money for a Framework.

>>723226346
I just "upgrade" by just using windows update today and it just smoothly transitions over to win 11. My desktop icons got shuffled but overall all my programs run as intended and nothing tragic seems to have happened to my drives or user files.
I was already using admin local account and I had done bunch of restrictions on registry and GP side during win10 early days (because it was huge bloat as we all recall when we were mad about win10 and I actually had to remove bunch so win 11 would be offered to me lmao) so I didnt need to set up any weird accounts or anything like that and my win 11 started on my local admin account.
Next thing on my list is to comb through settings, GPs ,registry etc. if I need to kill anything that side.
I am a reluctant but lazy win 11 updater because I just have so much work and hobby software I don't want to break and this was the least painful option since at least I can remove the smell from this shit with 3rd party software and setting fuckery.

>>723239980
>vim
>zoom
>basecamp
>spotify
>dedicated buttons for ChatGPT, Twitter and YouTube
Nearly as bloated as Windows, no thanks. I'll just rice my own hyprland.

>SWITCH TO LINUX!
I would if there weren't a million different versions. Why can't someone make one that just works?

>>723230118
I run debian on my work machine with ipmi and a bmc. Currently I use moonlight on my gaming machine (win 10). My gaming machine doesn't have a bmc. I can't apt install moonlight on debian. What's a good, non-bloated distro that let's me install moonlight from the package manager and official repos? I generally do not sit right in front of the computer and instead control it remotely.

>>723241690
Just pick one and use it. Mint, Cachy, Endeavor. Debian, Fedora whatever they're all still Linux. You can make an informed decision once you learn what you like and dislike.

>>723227893
Why are you on this website, cretin?

>>723233192
those don't exists, this is not 2004 anymore and PCs are behind a router, not directly exposed to the internet

if you use an adblocker and don't visit any shady websites or do retarded shit like open PDFs from the internet, you are literally fine

>>723227893
Holy turbo autism

>>723218636 (OP)
dual boot ltsc and linux and pirate all your games
buy a steam deck to replace switch and play multiplats with bad ports on ps4 or 5 there u go
they fucked up the best games need like a 1050 ti max
lol

>>723226643
>t. wants everyone to spend hours reinstalling to windows lgbt edition anyways.

>>723227084
it already happened theyre coasting on laundering drug and human trafficking money
do you really think crap like bg3 sold 15 million copies rofl

>>723218636 (OP)
Why the fuck would I need security updates
My antivirus is common sense

>>723240650
>7 year old laptop
Just install Linux. Go with Linux Mint if you want an easy mode OS

>>723227172
>>723227084
"The industry" is worth billions of dollars and has insanely high demand.
It's simply not possible for a crash to happen. If you think it is you're genuinely retarded.

>>723241690
If you want one that just works, go with Mint. If you want one that has cutting-edge updates that may break things that you'll need to fix, go with Arch/CachyOS

>>723241389
Windows update still isn't showing me the option to update to 11 even though it says my PC fulfills the requirements. I got the ESU so I guess I'll just wait until MS gets off its ass.

>>723242424
That's another option, but this is the family laptop and my mom also uses it sometimes for work related things, so I'm not going to risk switching to an OS that might scare my not so tech savvy mom.

>>723240650
im still using a laptop from 2012, upgraded the ram and put and ssd in, runs fine with linux.
i only use it for internet stuff, movies and text work, for which it is perfectly fine.

>>723218636 (OP)
>am currently running 10 IoT LTSC
>have a 14700k and everyone says 11 has the better thread scheduler

im almost considering installing 11 guys. If i debloat it and turn off telemetry or whatever is it not that bad?

>>723242591
Linux Mint is pretty foolproof, it's the go-to distro people install on their parents/grandparents old hardware so they can use it without worries. Very beginner-friendly OS. In terms of programs, does she rely on specific programs that may not be on Linux? There usually are open-source alternatives.

>>723242070
You tell me. What and who do you think "this website" is for? Do you think applying those filters is gonna somehow diminish the quality of "this website?"

>>723227893
Why do linuxtrannies always the biggest "don touch meeeeeeeeeeeee" soiautists on the PC and vidya community?
Even Macfags are easy to deal with.

>>723218636 (OP)
>and still bypass the Microsoft account nonsense.
that's not the real issue. the real issue is their push for (((TPMs))) and (((secure boot))), both anti-user features aimed at locking down PCs like consoles
if those two technologies really were about security instead of DRM, TPMs wouldn't have baked in keys (especially ones that are signed by the OEM). they'd store a randomly generated key instead. and secure boot wouldn't rely on third-party CAs or brick if you replace the default platform keys (some hardware such as graphics cards may refuse to boot if you change the keys). moreover, the system can't be pro-consumer as long as there's no owner override to both technologies (aka what would defeat their use case as DRM)

>>723233321
wow thanks anon for localizing that to chingchongese. I can truly read this
>>723245368
are any of those so-called linuxtrannies in the room with us right now?

It still won't let me install Win11 on my PC even though it keeps telling me I have to.

>>723232140
thanks anon

>>723245368
You gave him the ick

>>723219252
I fucking hate this. If time travel is real and I find it? I owe everyone in the world the destruction of any and all electron app templates. I knew when the first demo html5 game came out it was gonna be complete shit and here we are.

>>723218887
Guaranteed updates.

I used ltsc 2019 for a while but then direct x 11 broke and I literally had to update LTSC to fix it. So much for LONG TERM SUPPORT

>>723226468
counterpoint
I spend the same amount of time configuring my windows as I do sorting proton versions with every single app on windows and just dual boot linux for everything else and stop farming internet points like every fake linux user

>>723226468
people don't want to learn how to actually use a computer. they just want to use chrome/firefox and steam. those types will never install linux.

>>723242797
Noooo, not the heckin thread scheduler! How will you schedule threads without it?

>>723242553
I had same thing but like I wrote I had to edit group policy.
Computer Configuration- Administrative Templates - Windows Components - Windows Update - Windows Updates for Business - Select the target Feature Update version
So it could be similar issue?

>>723227893
Yeah, it does good filtering out bots and reddit migrates but it's not good enough. The well is poisoned and I'm just biding my time before I go back to 5

>>723233192
like most internet users in the developed world, i'm behind a firewall. i'm not getting worm'd.

>>723245812
>u-g-g-guu Bigot
so much for linuxfags

>>723226468
>just install Linux and have complete control over your PC
>except when there are ads that can't be removed
>except when you can't use apps that you actually want
>except you can't play multiplayer games
>except when you can't play newly released games because they are broken and need a proton update
>except you need to use an old alternative versions of firefox with a shit ton of scripts
Nice """"""freedom""""" OS, shit is more limited than any version of Windows. What's worse, most linux users use chrome, use youtube, post on 4chan, etc. freedom means shit to them, it's all fake and performative.

>>723218636 (OP)
why do i need any of that shit? defender is still getting security updates on 10 for the next like 5 years

>>723246969
lmao no it isn't

>>723246909
>>except when there are ads that can't be removed
what

>>723229585
lol yeah win 8 runs it too
based valve desu
i dont get them lol theyre greedy as fuck but atthe same time they do shit like letting us use old windows steam lol

>>723247045
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2024/10/31/how-to-prepare-for-windows-10-end-of-support-by-moving-to-windows-11-today/

>Microsoft will also continue to provide Security Intelligence Updates for Microsoft Defender Antivirus through at least October 2028.

are you gonna split hairs over me exaggerating by 2 years?

>>723247316
>are you gonna split hairs over me exaggerating by 2 years?
This is 4chan, of course I am.

>>723233473
holy fuck this

I've reached a point where my computer is just an internet browser + a handful of games machine. I don't use any other kind of software anymore. Will Linux Mint be enough to run stuff like Civ 5, PoE, Slay the spire?

>>723247375
okay but it also says AT LEAST so they will likely support it even longer than that. Im honestly suspecting you of not even knowing they were continuing defender support at all, but this is fine

>>723247395
yes

>>723247395
Yeah, you don't really need anything else. Honestly, Bazzite might fit your use case too since it restricts you from breaking the system.

>>723218636 (OP)
you're fucked when developers stop supporting it. just save yourself some time and switch to linux or downgrade to 11.

>>723247554
We don't fuckin care. What about they paying you by the post?

>>723233321
Not even that. Windows is straight up hostile to tinkering. If you change a setting that ms doesn't want you to change, it'll be reverted in a couple updates, which means you'll constantly have to tardwrangle windows to work like you want it. Meanwhile, Linux will respect what you set and stay that way.

>>723247674
Amerimutts are 4x behind Chinese workers because they operate like on the right. Takes them 2 minutes to do a 15 second action. Takes them 2 hours to do a 15 minutes meeting. Takes them 2 days to do a 2 hours job.

>>723227695
I don't know about all disgaea games but I can confirm 7 does

>>723247610
"switch to a version of windows that has a webshit UI or you won't be able to run dogshit titles" is not compelling

>>723247840
yeah, that's my point. if you don't play anti-cheat shit, switch to linux.

>>723247770
Why is this important to know?

>>723247967
This is why your GPU prices are going up because China is ahead and America is behind.

>>723222134
I had to "get over myself" too and install 11 ltsc because I bought an expensive new hdr 4k tv and the hdr implementation in 10 is dogshit. 11 isn't offensively bad

>>723219076
I use linux too, but the whole point of PC is "do the fuck you want", so i think if someone want to use Windows, they should be able to use it, but the best experience possible on Windows should be of public knowledge.

And being able to actually own your computer regardless of the OS you use should be of public knowledge as well.

>>723227893
the kids replying to this have the same mentality as micspammers who get mad when you mute them
my list isn't nearly that long though, and the majority of it is just catalog OP filtering
surprised you have no variation of 'lebetter men' though, that shit got old after 2 days

>>723247770
I'd take you more seriously if the right one wasn't specifically curated to be fucking retarded and full of giant pauses, while seemingly working with a read/write and download speeds taken straight from 2006
The second it took the bugman more than 0.5 seconds to type in firefox it was over.

>>723247554
What's the difference between arch linux and W10

>>723247952
also not worth it. red hat is working flat-out to murder X11. so i will eventually be unable to run icewm on up-to-date hardware.
it seems like whatever OS you use, some corp wants to make it their walled garden.

>>723248141
you "can" use it but if you do anything online there is a exponential possibility of getting assfucked due to security flaws as the years go on.

>>723248167
>and full of giant pauses
name 1

>>723233192
>wasting zero day exploits on 4chan autists
You must think very highly of yourself and the other people here.

>>723248246
xorg is trash. get over it.

>>723248040
that would be a problem if there were any games worth getting a modern GPU for

>>723248209
arch is modern
windows 10 is so old it doesnt even hdr

>>723248358
compositing is trash

>>723248209
radv is 50% faster than nvidias windows driver

>>723248382
but i have hdr enaled?

>>723248291
Indeed.
But there are ways around it, also you could move to a completely unbloated version of Win11 as well.
It's up to you to decide, but the decision ends up better if you know, and knowledge is what should be spread, not "JUST USE X OR Y".
"here's the menu of your options, just read and pick what you want" is much damaging to the jeets at microsoft than propaganda.

>>723227184
This. The crash of 1983 was localized entirely to North America and happened because there were a billion shit consoles all with slightly different variants of the same shit games, so parents had no idea what to buy and what was good and so gave up, and the super-saturated market collapsed.

And it didn't even last that long, because Nintendo popped in with the NES, good games, and a seal that promised parents that the games for the console were completely playable and worth purchasing. That ended the crash and started a new era of gaming. So long as Nintendo exists, the crash can't ever happen again.

>>723248421
yet the alternative looks like dogshit and is inefficient

>>723248839
tearing is better than increased latency

>>723248765
there is no "option" when we're talking about proprietary software

>>723248917
yeah because you can really perceive those 5ms

>>723239813
trvke

>>723248246
>red hat is working flat-out to murder X11.
Who gives a shit? Do you really need a print server inside your display server?

>>723237732
I also need third party UI edit software because for what ever the reason they didn't bother enabling a vertical task bar in 11. Maybe it was the faggy macOS elements. My 11 looks pretty much identical to 10, and the parts that don't are better.

>>723218770
most anons are broke and don't have a bank account worth stealing, so of course you'd think security is bullshit. You'd never even know until your credit is fucked because a cookie stealer let someone in Pakistan empty out your account into their bitcoin wallet. Of course anons don't think security matters

>>723220372
I just use education (renamed enterprise) and Startallback. Have had zero issues. Fuck w11's taskbar though it's ASS

>>723250454
it's worse than you think. The entire start menu is a react native app
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44124688

>>723247610
>XHE Supports modern games
still on a hill playing Mechwarrior 2,3,4, Classic and remastered battlezone and old TES

>>723248998
yes

>>723250803
windows patches aren't going to protect you from a chromium vulnerability

>>723253835
how does a chromium vulnerability get patched? Astral projection? Are you out here running a 5 year old version full of holes and vulnerabilities? No? So why the fuck would you do the same thing with your OS?????

What if I keep using my system normally and use an anti-virus software?

>>723254313
how is norton, malwarebytes and kaspersky these days

>>723253835
>Great news, your kernel integrity is safe!
>Sry about that bank account though

Somehow I am wondering if they making all that fuzz not mainly for more consoomer en-sheepening, but for worries that the first launched tomahawk will lead to a bot-net activation that can DoS half the internet

>>723254229
what does your OS have to do with chromium, retard? how does windows 10 patch 123918273918273 protect granny from some cross-site cookie stealer vulnerability in chromium?

>>723254401
Norton still gets the job done for me.

>>723254401
Kaspersky is banned in the US. I used it for a while beforehand and it was fine. Norton is dogshit. Malwarebytes is best used as a supplemental but their overall quality has kind of dropped. I use Bitdefender now and it's paranoid as fuck but the overall impact is relatively low and it's saved me from a few sketchy situations.

>>723254542
and Mcafee went down the shitter

>>723254542
just use virustotal

>>723254479
You didn't answer my question. Why would you want MORE attack vectors, not less? You don't run a deprecated browser, why would you do the same thing with your OS??? Are you stupid?

>>723253752
good argument. go ahead and do a reaction time test and let me know what score you get.

>>723254640
>Why would you want MORE attack vectors
what is the threat model?

>>723254707
median 146 ms
mean 153.7 ms
std 19 ms
min 132 ms

>>723254767
August 2025 dealt with remote code execution through malicious websites. You want to chance that? Some Ransomware hack that gets shoved onto all of your data? A lot of these things are detected via white hat groups who send in their information to MS hopefully before it was exploited. They don't always catch it which is why zero-days are always going to be a risk, but the more layers of security you can put between you and a breach the better. Don't be stupid with your data

>Microsoft's recent updates during August 2025 Patch Tuesday highlight a significant security effort, addressing over 100 vulnerabilities across its major products such as Windows, Office, and Hyper-V. Among these vulnerabilities, several have been rated as critical, with CVE-2025-53766 noted for its potential for remote code execution through malicious websites. Despite reports of an absence of active exploitation, the critical nature of these vulnerabilities necessitates immediate attention from users to mitigate any potential risks.

Note that I'm not advocating for W11 being a good OS over moving to linux or some shit, just that actually keeping a system with mission critical or sensitive data up to date is actually important.

>>723254576
McAfee has been awful for like decades. I seriously can't remember when it was ever worth using.

>>723254593
useful for sandbox testing but not a live threat. That said, end point heuristics can be useful but shouldn't be the end-all for security. Routers, IOT devices, etc are also weakpoints in your network.

>>723255145
updates giveth vulnerabilities, and updates taketh away

>>723255007
cool so apparently less than half of what your reaction time is matters

>>723218770
/thread

>having some superhardened raspberry-tier device strictly for online browsing AND a gaming PC without any direct outside connection which you'd only accept vidya install-files coming from your online device at would be a theoretical ideal
>winjeets and DRM/microtransaction kikes won't ever allow it without causing more hassle than any average consumer will put up with

The companies create the wonky ecosystem, and then they look at you to clear up the weeds

>>723256725
>which you'd only accept vidya install-files coming from your online device
i just want you to think a total of 30 seconds how this could be exploited

HELP MEEE MY WINDOWS 10 LAPTOP SPROUTED LEGS AND WALKED OUT OF MY HOUSE! IT MUST HAVE BEEN A VIRUS! I KNEW I SHOULDVE SWITCHED TO LTSC! I SHOULD HAVE LISTENED!!!!

>>723227272
Japanese games.

>>723256951
Tell me about something that CAN'T be exploited in any way then, I'll wait.

>>723218636 (OP)
>Good OS verision.

It doesn't matter if any games are developed for Windows 11 and up because no one is buying any games for anything older than Windows 10 anyway.

Everything fucking sucks and everyone is emulating PlayStation 2 and GameCube stuff. Fuck the industry.

>>723254542
>Bitdefender
Do those nigs still require an e-mail address/account even for the free AV?

>>723257802
I mean probably, just use a burner email if you're that paranoid. You're literally giving a 3rd party complete control over your entire system when you use an A/V

>>723257169
if it connects to the internet, almost nothing. that's why it's important to have security updates, jackass.

>>723242797
https://www.neowin.net/news/clean-installed-windows-10-22h2-vs-windows-11-23h2-benchmarked-for-performance/

>>723218636 (OP)
LTSC is for enterprise retard and misses features for gaming

>>723258460
like what

>>723258460
>and misses features for gaming
And yet I've been on W10 IoT LTSC since day 1 and never had any trouble with any game ever, and I play a new game every 3-4 days.

Do you mind explaining what you mean by missing features?

>>723258460
You can nearly see the LED lights of that post

>>723258460
>>723258590
>>723258618
NTA but does LTSC get the updates to how W11 handles flip presentation model? DX kernel updates? How W11 handles HDR?

Other than that I don't really care about gamebar or any other accessory bullshit

>>723258590
>>723258618
nta but long term directx support and other apis in general

What happens if I just don't do anything?

>>723226870
Yes, IoT is a version of LTSC. I use it myself. I remember thinking it was a bit too barebones when I was installing something which I already forget. But I've been using the same W10 IoT LTSC install for 4 years and it just works like a charm.

>>723237583
You're being FUDDED. Games install normally, so do everything else.

>>723258914
you get no security updates. Over time your system will become more vulnerable to random exploits that you have no control over even with an antivirus. These will range wildly in their use and impact to your system/data but you might never run into it. Could be code execution, ransomware, infostealing, etc. Same reason you update your web browser and use adblock.

LOOONG term some software might drop support for your W10. I recommend either updating to W11 or Linux.

You should also probably update your router's firmware if you haven't in a while, just a reminder

How long until W12?

>>723218636 (OP)
I just enabled the extended security updates in the windows update menu
Says it's only good for a year but that is a problem for future me

>>723259313
never
w11 supposed to be cloud only and the way they remove and lock down the OS by requiring you to have account at all times to use your own PC - it is no different than cloud shit

>>723218887
yes, your computer will use double the RAM and network data because of copilot and telemetry.

>>723226949
so don't? editing the upgrade matrix is pretty easy

>>723259229
>you get no security updates.
I still use Win7.
Firefox still gets updates on Win 7.

>>723261416
updating the software isn't the problem, the problem is making it run.

>>723259313
W11 has a cold reception like Vista and 8, so probably just a few years.

>>723261720
what

>>723256419
what?

>>723234280
This
>>723233192
Try this

I dont get what the EU thing even did. I still have to use a MS account to get the free updates so how is this any different from what Americans do?

>>723230197
I assume the one that activates extended security updates. It's the 3.

So can I just make up a new throw away MS account to get this free update and then delete it after signing up to the updates?

>>723264027
you supposedly need to sign into the throwaway account once every 60 days

>>723227893
cuckchanners really REALLY REALLY didn't like this post /v/ros..... I wonder why?

>>723227893
>famitsu at the top
kek

>>723231664
You need to press 3 and 2 anon, not 3 and 1.

>>723264027
If you have a hotmail that works.

>>723227234
Linux users are worse than AI.

>>723227653
NTA but
>Why would you tinker with an OS you're familiar with instead of tinkering with an OS you know nothing about?
Truly a mystery.

used xp for 19 years, only using 10 for 4, guess what im going to stick with :^)

>>723258730
Yes it gets

>>723227560
Nothing just like the people who dont update windows for months dont have any issues
Only reason to be worried would be if you pirate games regularly and some bullshit gets added that your win10 defender doesnt know about anymore

>>723266552
I'd rather tinker with Linux because it's more customizable and gives me more control over what I run on my machine.
Linux is the better choice for technical people, and Windows is the better choice for normies who don't care about being spied on.

>>723267473
The proper term is "normalfag".

>>723267629
I'm also partial to normgroid.

>>723267629
some of us aren't bigots

>>723267792
Typical of a Linux user to say that.

>>723268704
another underage retard

>>723268898
Shut up tranny.

>>723245891
You need to go into your BIOS and enable Secure Boot and TPM 2.0. Even after enabling those it still said my PC didn't meet the requirements and wasn't letting me update to 11

Is W11 LTSC better than W10 LTSC?

>>723268965
post your favorite wojak!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>723269182
Why would I post a jak?

>>723269127
Lol no, its full of AIslop

I've been using Linux for a decade but I just installed Windows 10 ltsc on a separate drive because I have to transfer all my old mini tvs. What a fucking nightmare. So many updates and reboots, and then in the middle of a mini DV transfer it auto shuts off because I'm using the evaluation version. People who use Windows like being raped

Works for me.
Feels just like Windows 10.

>>723269910
Microshit will nuke control panel soon.

>>723219415
what's with that anyway? why are they so pushy? trying to normalize it to force more developers to make the switch?

>>723270056
NOOOO NOT THE HECKIN' CONTROL PANERINO!!!!

>>723270191
faggot. keep getting raped you filthy jeet

>>723237753
Yeah OP bring up a good point. I don't really want to go to 11, but capcom made an update like a week ago saying they aren't supporting windows 10 from here on out. I imagine most other companies are doing the same.

>>723239628
No we're talking

>>723269127
No but studios have already announced they are cutting support for W10. You can avoid it via work arounds I'm sure, but at that point you may as well just be on linux.

>still using a November 2021 version of Windows 10 not updated once
>Auto updates blocked
>Firewall disabled
>Proprietary antivirus used

>>723270648
Takin a dll and pasting it into the game folder is really not that much work.

I built a new desktop last weekend and was ready for pain installing win 11
I media created a flash drive straight from MS installed home, didn't connect to the Internet, entered one cmd line and I could make a local account.
Got a 10 dollar key off Groupon and it worked to activate
It was a nothingburger and you can easily uninstall OneDrive and copilot

>>723270565
the ssd failures caused by a windows update turned out to be bullshit.

>>723271772
For now, but the point here is to highlight how this will be an increasing issue the longer you sit on W10 LTSC. In a perfect world gaben would get off his ass and make a proper steamOS, but this is not a perfect world.

>>723271798
Does that upgrade your existing shit, or did you have to wipe your main drive and do a fresh install? Also whats the cmd line argument? massgrave?

>>723271798
how do you login your win11 pc without an internet connection

>>723272096
It's better to install the entire thing. If you somehow fucked up your previous OS you will still migrate some of those fucked up settings to the new OS, also you might forget to remove some really old drivers or other things. Not worth the pain, just get a USB and copy your shit, or upload it to google drive or whatever and then reinstall.
Either way you should always have at least 2 SSDs, one with 200GB just for Windows and another 1-2TB for steam, games, videos, etc. This makes reinstalling much easier and faster.

>>723272238
>login your win11 pc without an internet connection
You don't need internet to login, safe mode still exists.

>>723218636 (OP)
You don't need security updates if you're just a home user. They're a meme.

I guess the year of the Linux desktop is finally here.

>>723218770
as always, first post is the best. never download security updates

>>723218636 (OP)
Why would I need security updates that long when I don't use a single PC for more than a month?

>>723273345
The security updates will follow you, like your phone!

>>723218636 (OP)
Nothing ever happens (At least for the next 5 years)

>>723272096
>>723272238
It was a fresh install on a new computer
When booting the installer flashdrive don't be connected to a network
Press shift f10 enter oobe/bypassnro and it will reboot and let you continue setup not connected to the Internet and make a local account

>Just use the better and faster OS
I don't see any problem with this

>>723269910
>the 7 control panel is still fucking there
oh lawd

>>723272016
And that's exactly why I'm not moving from 10 until something I want to play or use absolutely refuses to work. Exactly like how I did it for XP and 7.

>>723272016
Gaben is focused to win at LeMans next year anon.
mainly now that Porshe Penske pulled out and told the Rigged BoP to neck themselves

after updating to windows 11 I have this weird browser glitch where the top part of the the screen stays while I scroll so only the bottom part actually scrolls, if I click around the top part refreshes and it works again, not sure if it's a driver issue since I updated it after moving to 11 or is it something weird going on, I think I had this before on other version but forgot since it was long ago

>>723232453
People here are masters of creating fictional scenarios in their head to justify doing nothing, when that same fictional scenario still applies to them.
Or do you believe you're magically immune to rootkits pushed through trusted channels while on 11?

>>723269910
looks cozy

>>723227893
You are literally evil

>>723227893
>pigger
That's the best fucking word for the minecraft nether pigs though