Thread 723232686

>New massive pokemon game has smaller development budget than marketing budget of some "indie" titles
Kinda amazing when you think about it
This, and new hollow knight really prove that you don'y need to beg streamers and gamejournos to shill your games. You can just make a good game that people would want to play

Shouldn't you congratulate GF for making high-quality games with so little?

>>723232686 (OP)
Those games suck ass worse than Pokemon, what exactly do people imagine a 300m budget Pokemon game looking like? Keep in mind it has to run on Switch 2 at 30fps

>>723232763
>high-quality games

>>723232686 (OP)
>reportedly
SV DLC had budget of 500 million yen, but the costs ended up being the same as Legends Arceus (same as Legends Z-A = 2 billion yen). So they went 4x over budget with a DLC.
Shows how much those budget projections actually mattered.

Centro is a negro.

>>723232873
Legends Z-A runs on Switch 2 at 1440p60.

>>723232686 (OP)
Pokemon is literally just coasting on its brand name. Why should they invest anything in it when it'll sell no matter how much of a broken, outdated, boring, pozzed mess it is because Pokesoomers have literally zero standards?

>>723232763
>high-quality games

>>723233034
>Pokemon is literally just coasting on its brand name
You always say that, but everytime devs decided to take it easy(rs and bw) and release uninspired slop, sales went down and fans had big outrage(real fans, not retards who just here for seething about game not having dark souls combat or other retarded shit), outrage big enough to make GF actually release great games after

>>723232686 (OP)
>Be recommended a string videos by youtube about Digimon being better than pokemon.
>Watch one of these videos.
>Realise the gamers making these videos are all trannies/homos/ginger.
>All the videos go on about how superior Digimon is and how it's trying new things.

Guys pokemon is a successful format. I 1st played Red as a Child, I loved Scarlet it was exactly what I wanted from a "Pokemon Game" 20 years later.

If you like Digimon just play digimon, don't try and turn pokemon into digimon, you're actually removing player choice by wanting them both to be the same thing.

>>723233472
The whole problem with Pokemon discussion in the West is there’s a lot of people who liked the Pokemon anime as a kid but they never actually liked the games mechanically so there’s this push for Pokemon to be destroyed so it can be reborn as something new and it’s intensified since the nat dex cut in Gen 8 destroyed some peoples’ “personal narratives” they’ve created with the games as far as the Pokemon they use etc

>>723233472
I love digimon, but it was just so weird to hear
>pokemon is bad because they plan to release dlc in half of year
>You should buy digimon and day one dlc to send nintendo a clear message

>>723232686 (OP)
I mean those games all suck, so clearly money is irrelevant.
I would rather play Legends Arceus than anything listed there so hopefully Z-A is just as good.
It might suck too but who knows

>>723233960
One of the biggest complaints about PLA was that Nintendo DIDN’T continue to support it with paid DLC so it’s funny seeing people bitch about this

>>723234079
To be fair ever since Splatoon 2's Octo Expansion launched Nintendo fans have expected higher quality DLC.

>>723234079
The biggest complaint was about the game being fucking dogshit with a retarded dumbed down battle system. People have always praised that garbage for letting you 100% without having to buy more shit (disregard the fact that poketards haven't realized that there's an even quest locked behind owning BDSP)

>>723234187
Shadow of erdtree>any nintendo dlc

>>723234243
>soulshit
lol
lmao

>>723232763
>high-quality games

This picture alone is making me not buy it. I was gonna forgive the flat 2d textures but this is just inexcusable.

>>723232763
>high quality games

>>723232763
Hi Joe

>>723234368
I don’t disagree this is lazy as fuck but I also can’t see it actually influencing somebody’s purchase decision

1. centro is a fag
2. oh, it shows!

>>723234864
>2025
>Not being randomly outraged

>>723232763
>high-quality games

>>723234864
Not that annon, however it does show a pretty clear lack of attention to detail or genuine focus on the craft.
On its own it's pretty silly, but if you put it alongside a bevy of similar errors it could very well be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

>>723232686 (OP)
>>723232763
Normally, I would argue that AAA games have bloated budgets. But due to the amount of monsters available in every pokemon game, a high budget is justified in order to get all the work done to a high quality.(I'm speaking of the GOAL of high quality)

YOU LITERALLY ASKED FOR THIS

>>723232686 (OP)
>This, and new hollow knight really prove that you don'y need to beg streamers and gamejournos to shill your games

You´re retarded.
Silksong is the sequel to a cult (plebbit) classic. It had a massive fanbase who edged for 7 years or so.
Pokemon is literally a child IP where kids from 5-12 worldwide are into this shit, with the exception of turd world children but they dont matter since their parents do not buy games and therefore fall off as potential customers.

OFC both of these IPs do not need shilling because there are already millions waiting for the next entry and even despite it, silksong, when released, was streamed pratically everywhere for at least 3 days.

The only thing these games prove that if you´re mainstream and don´t necessary look like straight up shit, you will sell units.
It doesn´t prove anyhting else, especially not that shilling is not necessary to sell games.

>>723235998
forgot to add, Silksong took also the Blackcock/Vangayuard/Gates Foundation money to be on gamepass, which is practically selling out to big corp cock. Doesnt matter how india team cherry was before, they are being funded by the big gays.

>>723235998
>Silksong is the sequel to a cult (plebbit) classic. It had a massive fanbase who edged for 7 years or so.
Dragon's dogma 2, Elden Ring, Monster Hunter World and Wilds
All had massive marketing budget, like actually massive. Despite the thigns that you wrote.
Same goes for latest dragon age.

>>723232686 (OP)
Isn't this the answer to what gamers have criticize AAA industry for so long? Running game development of super efficient budget, not bloating to the point where one flop can sink a studio?

>>723235542
It’s not supposed to cost 70 dollars

>>723236860
People hated nintendo for not going "cinematic experience" meme since first playstation days.

>>723236860
Yeah but there are limits mate. And the game appears to be a completely repetitive easy piece of shit.

>>723236969
switch 1 cost 50 (with game ticket).

>>723236426
Yes, and your point? That marketing will sell shit games?

>>723232873
>Keep in mind it has to run on Switch 2 at 30fps
Nigger there is no need to lie to make gamefreak look bad, they do fine just by themselves.

>>723232686 (OP)
I get that it's compared with AAAAA bloatware movies for clickbait, what's the usual budget nintendo uses for their games?

>>723232686 (OP)
More than anything it's a sign how much money laundering goes on in Western game development

I hate gamefreak with a passion, but they are completely in the right to milk retards for as much as they can (at this point).
You would do the same.

>>723232686 (OP)
>developers should make smaller, more AA games instead of throwing gorillions on AAAA games
>NOOO NOT LIKE THAT!!! STOP!!!

>>723237209
the moat they invested was botw 100M

>>723232686 (OP)
>"Hey, why don't we make the next Pokemon game as cheap as possible, with bad designs, horrible levels and the classic dumb ass half baked story?".
> B-but president san?!, what about our loyal players?. Won't they be disappointed if the game maintained the same levels of mediocrity for more than 4 generations?.
> You baka! (slaps him), they will buy whatever we put in front of them!.

you can dress the boy up in girl clothes, instantly pre-ordered

>>723232763
>high-quality games

>>723237482
>>723237446

>>723232686 (OP)
Shouldn't this new Pokemon game cost the same as Silksong?

>>723237482
There's no boy or girl in this game only body types

>>723232686 (OP)
Game Freak is so greedy that Nintendo suggested getting another dev to co-develop the Pokemon games and they outright refused

I get why. You have 1/3rd ownership of the most lucrative IP on the planet. Why would you want to share that with anyone you're not forced to do so. Game Freak got it made
>make cheap games
>people buy them buy the literal tens of millions, earingin you hundreds of millions
>continue to make cheap games despite being fully capable of making more polished ones
>have a legion of diehards that will defend your IP over their lives.

>>723237482
Muh dih

>>723233245
>>723233245
>sales went down
Never happened at a significant margin.

>outrage big enough to make GF actually release great games after
Well, I guess Scarlet/Violet is better than Sword/Shield, but it's not like that's hard to accomplish.

The entire game is an asset flip. It probably took less than a year to develop. Tendies market it for free too

Supposedly the entire city in the new legends game is one model

Is that bad?

>>723232763
GF reminds me of bethesda, where they still act like they're a small developer who has to work with a small incompetent team. they used to make games that people loved due to their charm and novelty, and then lost both over the years. nowadays theyre so far behind the rest of the industry its embarrassing, but they still insist on doing things this way instead of adapting.

the only difference is that pokemon fans are so whipped theyre not only completely fine with swallowing this mediocre, uninspired, passionless slop, theyll defend it to the death saying everything is nintendos fault or whatever. its baffling.

>>723237782
I thought sword and shield were better than scarlet violet. S/V was so aggressively ugly and buggy and didn’t “look” like a pokemon game. Being able to fly over towns and jump of rooftops also made it super obvious how barrren and small everything was. Also not being able to go into shops or having actual pokemon centers was shitty

>>723236860
It's just mad snoys as usual

>>723237904
>
the only difference is that pokemon fans are so whipped theyre not only completely fine with swallowing this mediocre, uninspired, passionless slop, theyll defend it to the death
I’ve seen people unironically say it’s due to the switch hardware. The same hardware that runs BoTW and Xenoblade mind you

>>723232925
>development costs no longer worth the profits
what the absolute fuck are they talking about
how fucking out of touch are these fuckwits
do they actually thing they're a small indie dev?

>>723235542
>paid more to work less
lmao

>>723238057
well I fucked that post up but I digress, my point still stands

>>723237981
They were bad in different ways if you ask me, Sword/Shield was essentially a 3DS game in scope and felt like a hallway, Scarlet/Violet was atleast ambitious with the non linear design and more open world stuff, even if the game looks fucking butt ugly.

>>723233472
Yet pokemon ZA is the one where the player character can be transgender. How Bizarre.

>>723238057
I've heard the same thing, and yeah, BOTW should've proven the Switch is more than capable of handling a complex open world game. Game Freak has proven to be abhorrently incompetent with 3D back on the 3DS, and it's only gotten more obvious over time. Pokémon fans are just in denial.

>>723237904
I don't see how you can compare a company that used to release good games over 15 years ago to one that has never made a single good one, todd.

>>723237782
>Never happened at a significant margin.
insanity...

>>723238129
Finally, a game for your obsession

>>723232686 (OP)
>>723232763
I sincerely hope you get raped to death you subhuman faggot.

>>723238126
Maybe I’m more forgiving of Sword/Shields shortcomings because it was my first game since Gen 4. But I really did enjoy the supporting characters more. Sonia/Leon were better (and hotter) than Penny/Arven/Nemona

>>723232763
>high-quality games

>>723232763
>game freak
>high quality

>>723238194
yes, fucking chubby animals

>>723232763
>high-quality games

>>723238154
I don't know which is which in your comparison but I just found the similarities interesting. GF has never been the most competent developer, but at least the early games were ambitious and novel. By the 3DS, it was obvious they stopped giving a shit to me, and also when it became obvious how big the gap between GF and the rest of the industry was becoming.

That's also why people were so lenient on the first Legends I assume, because Pokémon was stuck in a fucking rut for so long, refusing to experiment too much and going through the motions for generations on end. Even Mario didn't have it this bad.

>>723238173
Yes, Black and White's 15.5 million estimate isn't a significant margin drop from Diamond and Pearl's 17 million estimate.
I know that's what you are reference. A significant drop of, for example is comparing Monster Hunter World's sales to Rise. (23 million, literally Capcom's best-selling title ever vs/ 8 million sales. More than 50% drop off)

>>723232763
>high-quality games

>>723232873
>Cyberpunk
>worse than Pokemon
get some fucking taste you faggot

>>723238129
traps aren’t trannies

>>723238465
Damn shame no one can’t really get the IP because a lot of Pokemon fans will be happy just eating these subpar games

Why would they spend more money on developing games that sell the same amount regardless of quality?

>>723235437
Budget can be bloated without having to be made on a shoestring budget.
There is a middle ground here.

>>723238478
Rise was switch exclusive for a long time, world was a multiplatform game

>>723238684
I meant to say Wilds,

>>723238623
Ok, I had to stop everything. The fuck you mean they aren't trannies? A guy wanting to be a girl or dressing as a girl is a tranny.

>>723238793
you said that they were transgender
traps aren’t transgender, they don’t have delusions of being the opposite sex

>>723238738
Wilds already outsold rise

>>723233472
>trannies/homos/ginger.
are gingers bad or woke or whatever gives you nightmares at night now? what the hell...

>>723232686 (OP)
neither this or Fomo Knight Shillslog are good games

>>723238738
I suspect as much but even then it's a flawed comparison because you comparing one new game to another game that's been out for years and has been on multiple steam sales. A better comparison would have been how much World has sold during its time period as Wilds has. Wilds has been out for how long now, 4 months? How much did world sell during it's first four months

>>723238965
It's still a significant drop-off from World to Wilds, and Wilds started off as a multiplat, just like World.

>>723238965
Anon he was talking about the sales between world and wilds

the budget is more than fine, all those AAA games are just retarded

why are people latching on to this when it's the lack of integrity that's the issue?

>>723238981
irish hatred never went away…

>>723238965
>Wilds already outsold rise
In my deranged lunatic delusions that is.
Rise is already outselling Wilds on PS5 and steam regularly.

>>723239172
Funny how Irish and Italians weren't considered white during the supposed "great times"

>>723233472
>Don't try and turn pokemon into digimon
Bro, we want to turn pokemon back into pokemon.
Pokemon has lost its core audience since gen 5
Pokemon franchise is so fucking big that they can fucking build a 10000x10000 picture of Pikachu on the moon. All we want is a good game that isn't for toddlers and actually have good graphics that doesn't run on a calculator.

Nintendo and Game Freak unironically won. This will sell billions, and they will continue doing the exact same thing because not a single fan will ever stop buying these games out of sheer sunk cost fallacy.

>>723239262
>Pokemon has lost its core audience since gen 5
Care to explain?
I only see gen5 kiddies crying about games not pandering to them, just like they cry about gen1-4
A lot of people who loved pokemon for what it is, still love pokemon

>>723232763
>high-quality games

>>723239345
other games have to do something wrong if they can't do that.

>>723232763
I can feel the pain hidden behind this post

>>723239262
>All we want
>we
>actually have good graphics
>doesn't run on a calculator.
Well, that answered my question about who do you mean by "core" audience...
Literally twitter trannies who don't play games and outraged by everything
Holy shit
Good graphics in pokemon, when not being in black and white was massive achievement for series in late 1999

>>723232763
>high-quality games

>>723237482
O-oh no my wallet is moving on its own…!

>>723232686 (OP)
what the fuck are they spending their budget on, it certainly isnt the game.

>>723232686 (OP)
>$10m
>when palworld spent 20m on marketing alone
Lying piece of shit, there no way they could make game with such small budget...

How much do you think nintendo spent on trying to patent every aspect of pokemon and suing palworld? More or less than $13m?

>>723240752
Mandatory after work party with the boss

>>723232686 (OP)
if retards keep buying it why wouldn't they push the costs down? hell these niggas could sell flash-tier games for 100 bucks

>>723240904
It can be done, however it won't be good (from a programming point of view)

No Serena. No buy.

>>723239262
>we want to turn pokemon back into pokemon
What exactly about the newer games is not pokemon
You still explore a region in the mainline games to catch pokemon and complete the pokedex
There are challenges you face to become the champion of the region
Trading and battling with other people has remained a core part of the game and has gotten even more accessible with each entry

>>723232686 (OP)
>retarded tendies will buy anything you put out
>make slop for the cheapest you can to maximize profits
It just makes sense. Why bother trying to make anything better?

>>723241162
Bro, he's obviously a bw kid.
So he hates idea of exploring region and catching pokemon, believing it has nothing to do with "classic pokemon games"

>>723232686 (OP)
the reviews...

>>723232763
>high-quality games

>>723241612
kinda on the higher side for pokemon games.

>>723232686 (OP)
Why sink 130m into a project when you can spend 13m instead and the same group of people will ritualistically purchase it either way?

>>723241786
of course

Look at it.

>>723233472
>Guys pokemon is a successful format
It's a successful format only because you have fat-fuck-consoomers like in Star Wars.
You literally have fat retards rushing through card stores to buy the newest Pokemon TCG shit.

>>723241882
>we have palworld at home

>>723232686 (OP)
the budget for suing palworld is larger than a mainline title. grim

>>723237904
Gamefreak and Bethesda is what happens when your dev team are in their 50s and 60s without ever hiring new people or outsourcing. Everything they make is laughably out of date with the rest of the industry.

>>723241612
>nintendo bonus isn't real.

I don't know if this drawing exists or my mind just made it up... but is there a drawing of a guy eating good looking food while next to him there's a dude angrily eating a place of shit, and saying that his shit is fucking delicious and great and better than the other guys's food?
Asking because I feel that's the current situation with the Digimon and Pokemon game.

>>723241949
Arceus did it first

>>723232763
>high-quality games

>>723235998
>>723236378
>shazam lost and got raped so hard by Silksong they've collapsed into complete delusion

>>723239040
shazam lost

>>723238409
>chubby
I want so much more than that

I might buy it just to play something on my S2

>>723232763
>High quality
Brother in Christ did you hit your head and not remember how much of a shitshow SV is.

does pokemon still not have voice acting

>>723243881
No, please understand

>>723243881
Why would you want pokemon games to have full voice acting?

>>723232763
>pokemon
>high-quality
Bait use to be believable

>>723232873
Something that looks better than a Wii game

>>723232763
kek the level of seethe this post generated is off the charts

>>723244053
Because the retards at Gay Freak keep making cutscenes that should have voice acting, so we get cringe shit like this
https://youtu.be/tC9vQmmvvfI?si=1PXrMciZg7PsoN5N

>>723232686 (OP)
Give me 1,3M, not 13, and the pokemon IP and i will make an open world, cross-platform pokemon game where you can choose to start in whichever gen you want, rebalance 90% of shitmons into being somewhat usable (without grossly buffing stats, or giving op moves), buff meme types like ice and bug a little, nerf stealthrockuturnknockoff and all other free click cancer, make the pokemon actually have animations that are unique to each move they use(they still do not to this day, there's like 100-200 moves only or something), do dynamic habitats and ecosystems where you get to observe them actually do shit and not just walk in circles or reside unseen in bushes, have the game actually require you to think and not just press a on your overleveled starter. The game would be objectively superior to almost any pokemon game in existence and it would be absolutely unprofitable.

Give GF a budget of 13.00 USD or 13B, they will shit out the same low effort pile of shit as usual and it would be their most selling game yet.

The brand is unbelievably powerful and the playerbase ungodly subhuman. They ARE doing everything right.

>>723244053
There's genuinely no reason not to have full voice acting at this point. Even just story important characters getting voices while random NPCs make grunts or whatever would be better than the literally nothing we have.

>>723243881
no, the one that has voice acting both Japanese and English is Digimon Story: Time Stranger.

>>723244053
listening to the characters talk is a lot more enjoyable than reading

>biggest ip in the world
>game doesnt even have voice acting
>even though theres increasingly more cutscenes in every game they release
>no one cares
Ill never understand slopeaters man

>>723244573
>>723244713
Voice acting is waste of budget, because if you make changes to the scene you need to revoice it.
There a good reason why crpg went to shit the second they moved to it, and why something like bg3 costs 400m to make
Fuck, elden ring had hour of unused voice lines, this is budget and time that could have been spent on something else

>>723244234
>stop laughing at me!
>y-you're seething!

So did the mega evolutions for starters leak?

>>723244948
Oh right right, small indie company cannot waste their small budget on basic things, I forgot.

>>723232686 (OP)
All the money goes into paying fake journos for 10/10 reviews.

>>723244948
>Voice acting is waste of budget,

>>723232763
>high quality games

Heeey I just hit 60 hours in Digimon Time Stranger, such a nice game!

>>723244948
>pay 1k dollarino to have some unrelated retard talk into a mic is too much time and budget for your 100 billion dollar franchise

>>723245349
Based

>>723244948
oh no they might have to spend a fraction of a percent of a fraction of a percent of their billions and billions of dollars

>>723245349
Nice hips

>>723237680
Better yet, you like features? How about Game Freak makes 3 Pokemon games, one for each feature involved, which should have been included/continued in the past btw, so we can recycle ideas and not innovate?

>>723244948
>something else
The gameplay is the same, but keeps getting more brainless because of powercreep
The designs of the mons are strictly worse
The graphics are ass.
What are they spending the budget on?

>>723242269
And Palworld did it better

>>723245523
Reparations owed to Palworld.

>>723245349
I will not fall for plant woman propaganda

>>723234368
So we actually know now that these building were originally entirely 3D, but since GF are retards and have the entire fucking city loaded at once, they had to cut the geometry down.

>>723245612
What about demon woman propaganda

>>723232686 (OP)
Im more shocked to see how worthless the yen is. 2 billion is only a couple million?

>>723245152
They are a waste of budget... the american ones of course.
>>723245349
Nice plant.

How much more shit do Pokemon fans need shoved down their throat to wake up and realize what they are consuming is slop? They're literally cattle consumers at this point.

>>723245718
... She makes a compelling argument

>>723245826
>at this point

>>723245803
need this updated with current pokemon and digimon gmaes

>>723245927
I was just going to say that. I trust anons here or in the next drawfag threat, maybe I'll do it if I get one of those drawing tablet thingies.

>>723245612
>>723245718
Lilithmon is so cute

>>723245982 (me)
thread*

>>723245927
pokemon and palworld would work too, or even both

>>723245612
May I interest you in nuns?

>>723233472
Damn that's so weird. Because I haven't seen a single tranny, homo or ginger talk about Digimon. Plenty slopping up Z-A though.

>>723234368
I don't understand why they didnt brin back the 3D buildings for the switch 2 version. it should be strong enough to cover up the poor optimization. Maybe just lower the resolution to like, 1440p instead of 4K but have the game look overall better.

>>723237482
Dont gender lock the clothes but force one of the rivals to which body type you choose instead of having it be decided with some sort of questionnaire or something

>>723235542
We literally did not. The issue with GF is that they refuse to hire more people while still having to bend the knee to TPC demands of games having development time of 2 years or less.
What the image is referring to are projects like Hollow Knight 1 and 2, Abiotic Factor, Starsector and many others: projects where the devs, while small, stick to their goals and focus on improving the game as it develops rather than slapping together whatever you did on time because you suck at management.

Having a deadline is good to enforce focusing on the team and clear lose ends that could be worked on properly for the expansion/next game or other projects, having one when the game is still in pre-production is stupid and why so many AAA projects feel half assed, because they are.

Better graphics?
An appealing art style?
Good coding?
Proper, dynamic, animations?
Voice acting?
Good character design?
Interactions with your companions?
Good writing?
Innovative gameplay?
No? Oh well...not like Pokemon fans care about any of those things.

>>723232763
>high-quality games

>>723237680
Get the feeling that going this cheap is the only way for GF to stay afloat. They have one of the worst scored as a company to work at in japan, have refused to grow and expand the team due "keeping their artistic vision", yet the quality of their games rivals the jankyness of some indie games.

Basically, they have a lot of money piled up to keep the company around because were they to work hard and put out an actual big game, the profit windows gets smaller and they know they cannot deliver the expected quality.
No way in hell this pic is their reality >>723232925 , nobody believes that your projects have 1/5th of the budget big japanese projects have while selling 5 times as much and you're "risking your profit window". Either they have a really fucking bad deal over how much they take from their games or it's all bullshit. And after seeing their excuses on why the games are as they are, I'm leaning towards bullshit indeed.

>>723247326
>Good writing?
gen7 and 9 had the best writing in the series, shitposter kun...

>>723242187
It's not, at least not a paid one, Ninty never cared about the scores, only the american branch does and as far as we know, they don't pay. These people literally give pokemon a high score because it is Pokemon, hence why Eurogamer did not give it a high one, or why games like Xenoblade, FE or Metroid get lower scores.

It's even sadder than paid reviews, is jsut trying to ride the pokemon wave.

>>723233472
>can't argument why the new Digimon game is worse than the new Pokémon game
>I know I will call the reviews flaming fags and a ginger
Kek

>>723243881
Someone post that scene from sword n shield I think where a guy is singing and they didn't even make a fucking track for that moment. Not even background music.

>>723247590
The best of the worst...incredible.

>>723247813
https://youtu.be/tC9vQmmvvfI?si=3VQxPbS4cvmj0Sko

>>723244948
It's msotly a waste for american games ebcause they want big names and unions attached to it.
FROM VA is cheap as fuck sicne they usually go for people who actually works as VA for many things rather than wannabe celebrities.

Are there hebes in this game at least?

>>723247956
Plenty of transsexual ones all for your private pleasure Mr. President.

>>723247590
N alone mogs all the other gens in terms of writing.

>>723232763
>high-quality games

>>723247929
This pisses me off because wtf do you mean you couldn't even be assed to give the guy who SINGS a voice for when he's SINGING!

>>723247929
Holy shit man I forgot that he gestured that hard. It's like that Michael JAckson edit where they remove the song and add SFX but for real and not a meme.
Was it really that fucking hard to make a 30s long track for this scene? Hell you could make it voiceless, but show me there's music at play.

Thanks for posting this, anon.

>>723247931
Fromslop is still shit regardless of VAs

>>723247956
Thankfully no, and about time. It was one of the most disgusting things that emerged from this game, you filthy pedo.

>>723248075
Small indie studio prease understand

>>723232686 (OP)
>>723232763
Buy it and post proof so we can laugh at you.

>>723248121
Where are you taking that goalpost, anon? We're playing right now.

>>723247929
it was at this gym you could tell that they ran out of budget/time with s/s
the town this gym is in is literally a 1 road straight line

>>723248105
The wild thing is that they did it...back in BW2 on the DS.
https://youtu.be/IBL80C1vG9c?si=EjjpRWgvacQoXBh_

>>723248039
>le have you considered that pokemon don't like fighting for le trainer amusement
>i'm so cool, I throw my pokemon away after every fight because i''m like vegan
N literally was made to be mocked, unfortunatelly bw kids thought he was deep and insightful, and it was the entire world that was wrong and not him

>>723232686 (OP)
>outsourced to a small team in India at a fraction of the normal cost
Yes its amazing how these companies charge $70 for such cheaply made sloppa.

>>723248238
>the town this gym is in is literally a 1 road straight line
Reference to BW

>ban masuda from directing because the games were too good
>everything after bw2 is slop now but still sells just as well if not better
the absolute state

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>>723248323
>"I can communicate with Pokemon and I think they don't like battling!"
>literally everything in the franchise screams otherwise
So N just uh...he just never bothered asking, huh?

>>723248447
>Games he directed personally(RS, BW and ORAS, are literally considered to be the lowest point of series)
Funny how pokemon haters never even played pokemon games...

>>723248480
Buy an ad

>>723248602
>revisionist history

>>723247956
I think just the female MC

>>723248602
gen 3 is good cope

>>723241162
Non-toggleable EXP Share, the difficulty, no dumb evolutions like mega or gigantamemes. Scarlet and violet was in the right direction except it was way too easy. The fact that you could start at any gym leader was pretty cool and lore accurate for the first time, but the gym lvl should be based on game progression and not flat rate. Not mentioning graphics and performance.

>>723239437
>>723239638
>>723241345
You guys are sad as fuck. I grew up on gen 1 and the progression of the games was good untill 6th gen when it started catering to adhd kids like yourselves, keep enjoying your slop though

>>723248602
Gen 3 removed a bunch of stuff for no reason, but the biggest issue was the refusal to let us transfer our old Pokemon.
>inb4 random Youtuber comment

>>723232686 (OP)
Imagine being Sony seeing this. Reminder they have to share the revenue with Disney. And TLOU 2 had to be bundled to get those sales numbers up.

>>723232686 (OP)
Pokemon is shit tier nowadays but we can all agree you don't need 6 gorillion bucks to make a game

>>723248729
Only compared to bw(first gen that was targeted by bw kids to prove their superiority btw), outside of it removing features, pokemon and forcing you to waste hour of your life watching contest clearly made it into the low point of the series.
>>723248881
>and the progression of the games was good
So you clapped when they removed things like re-fighting trainers, or phone, or day and night cycle?

>>723248323
The entire fucking point is challenging his viewpoint, of course it's a flawed way of thinking, that's intentional.
These games are made for kids so no wonder you have the reading comprehension of one.

>>723232763
>making high-quality games

>>723249094
>HE WAS BEST WRITTEN CHARACTER EVER YOU HEARD ME IT WAS ENTIRE POINT OF HIM BEING RETARD WHO DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AND WHO YOU WAS FORCED TO LISTEN
Wow, no wonder you love N so much, lmao.

>>723248973
I still can't believe that itnernal document where they said that Spiderman 2 having +22 million copies sold was barely enough to break even. IT wasn't a flop, but it performed poorly enough to have all those cancelled projects.
But what the fuck was the plan, what were they expecting to get if 22 million was not good enough.

pokemon fun

modern AA slop not fun

simple as

>>723249265
The entire point of his character is that he's a sheltered, manipulated child who doesn't really know how the real world works and goes along with what Ghetsis tells him because he quite literally doesn't know better. He's never supposed to be "in the right", as that's why you're literally battling him, but he's there to at least make you think about what people are doing with the pokemon in the universe.

>>723233472
>randomly brings up digimon
take your adderall

>>723232763
high-quality games

>>723249862
someone should let gamefreak know what anti-aliasing is

>>723248387
>Left, up, right, up, eft, up, left, up
>an an optional cave

>a straight line
lel

A video comparing the game in Switch 1 and Switch 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H34ZUA-DD3M

>>723232686 (OP)
>>723232763
>>723232873
>>723233245
>You can just make a good game
>making high-quality games
>Those games suck ass worse than Pokemon
>to make GF actually release great games after

>>723249862
this is soul

>>723250041
no you dont understand the game would be better if they just cleared all the trees and added nothing to fill it in. modern gamers want an open world experience

>>723250065
SOVL

>>723241882
Starmie running around on his legs is kind of creepy.

>>723244626
Good for them.

>>723232763
>the replies
absolutely mogged

>>723250052
This game looks fucking ugly.

>>723244948
You're approaching the budget like an autist would, and preventing yourself from aeeing the bigger picture. Perhaps that explains GF's Pokemon problem, really.

>>723250527
Looks so empty too.
XY has more people on the streets than this shit.

>>723248602
>no kantoooooooooooooo and shartzard
>pokegoyim started seething
>sales declined
pokefags deserve this

>>723250570
>and preventing yourself from aeeing the bigger picture.
It was the bigger picture
Only retard would think it's okay to limit yourself.

>>723232686 (OP)
>The DLC for SV apparently cost more than some whole Pokemon games and apparently were "too much" according to the higher ups
What the fuck

>>723250779
Have you seen SV dlc?
It was massive

>>723232686 (OP)
Japanese have to be the cheapest people on earth.

>>723250595
It's very hard to add NPCs to a city please understand.

>>723244626
I hope digimon actually does well and we get one finally with all of them in the digital world from the show. Thats what they should do to print money. Keep the same artist.

>>723250105
on opposite day

>>723250847
Bloated would be the more accurate word here
How the fuck do you make DLC that costs more than whole games, while barely adding anything meaningful?

>>723250779
I skipped that whole gen because of how bad it was, what was in it?

>>723251082
Legends didn't had new 3d pokemon models
SV dlc had two super massive locales and more than 250 new/returning pokemon for players to find and catch.

It's like you are shitposting, or something...

>>723250957
me in the bottom right

>>723251214
>I skipped best gen since gold silver because I hate pokemon
And twitter trannies wonder why GF ignores their incel rants...

>>723251241
I said "anything meaningful"
The Pokemon models in SV are piss ugly no matter how you choose to justify them, and the world is SV is huge, but it's also fucking empty with barely anything to do beyond the main storylines, not to mention SV still ran like heavy piss for that time and didn't get any better until a literal new console came out.

Don't try to dress it up like SV's DLC is anything that impressive

>>723232925
>although the weak yen helped us this time, if development costs continue to rise, eventually development costs will no longer be worth the profits

fucking how? YOU LITERALLY PUT IN THE BARE MINIMUM AND MAKE BILLIONS IN USD BACK HOW THE FUCK IS THAT NOT WORTH IT MOST OF THESE AAA GAMES ARE PUTTING IN 400M-700M AND STILL MAKE PROFIT. HOW THE FUCKING HELL IS GAMEFREAK/NINTENDO SO FUCKING STUPID.

>>723251552
>pokemon aren't meaningful in pokemon
Got it, you are shitposter.

those textures in the background...

>>723251319
Huh, he's talking about the switch dlc for S/V not a game boy game.

>>723251319
>Best gen since ___
Shouldn't you be using that line for Z-A now?

>>723251319
>violet and scarlet the best game since gold and silver

Kek no. black and white was the last good gen.

>>723251648
>Doing the bare minimum is worthy of praise
No wonder these games are actively getting worse when all they had to do is jingle some keys for tards like you

>>723244395
>they can't even do this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBL80C1vG9c
Impressive laziness

>>723251809
>bw
>good
How to spot tourist who hates pokemon games

>>723238384
Splatoon ain't any better being flooded by westerners that piss their pants the moment you're not a groomed gay person

>>723232763
why is bait posting so meta in 4chin

>>723244948
This isn't your CRPG thread safespace, every game nowadays has full voice acting unless they're indie, get over it and get on with the times, your precious CRPG developers are doing that too (Dark Heresy from Owlcat will be fully voiced)

>>723251937
but what does the fanbase have to do with the quality of the games?

When did Centro become credible?

>>723245718
/ss/ propaganda is better

>>723248029
We're FUCKED

>>723252002
It ruins the fucking game when I have to see these fucks my matches virtue signaling because everything has to cater to them

>>723252290
then turn off plaza posts.
i ask you again, what does the fanbase have to do with the actual quality of the games?

Here you go.

>>723251241
>Pokemon Models
In case youre not refering to any of the hentaibait NPCs...

They literally use the same ass models as XY, just like any other Pokemon Vidya they released since XY.
And i hate fags like you, its your fault they got away with dexit and all the other shit.
The models and all the other data asociated with a Pokemon are less then 5MB, there is no reason to not include all of them from the getgo, except if you want to sell this shit to the designated "fans", i.e shiteaters.

>>723252120
There's that too in the game.

>>723232686 (OP)
Do we know the budget of other Nintendo games, other than BotW? Be it DK, Mario, FE, Xenoblade, and so on

>>723250527
Is the game nothing but the city?

>>723252362
I just answered your question. The localization is shit as well do to nintendo treehouse putting in their political idealization. 0/10 ragebait.

>>723252442
Digichads I kneel

>>723252524
GOATED. You made my day better

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>>723252578
Yes, this has been known from the start, that's the whole gimmick, it's an open world that is just an extremely large city on a scale the series hasn't done before. It's an intentional shift since their previous attempts at open world have all focused heavily on natural expanses.

>>723247326
God I miss this Pokegyaru slut. She was hot.

>>723232763
Suddenly! Out of 10! Put me in the screencap!

>>723252841
Fucking disgusting. Death to all urbanites.

>>723232925
>we're going to make our future games and DLC even more shit, unfinished, low effort, and low value
Is Gamefreak just allergic to making good content? Legends Arceus and the SV DLC (not SV itself, the game is shit) were the best things they put out in a long time and their response to releasing good things is to dedicate themselves to shitting it up in the future.

>>723252470
Actually, I'll play devils advocate, since Dexit, the revamps they've made to models and rendering of them changes more each game. SV for example gave basically every Pokemon new texture definition that wasn't in previous games. Additionally, in some case like Mewtwo and Charizard, some of them have gotten entirely new models. Additionally in some cases they keep the same model but rework animations (Typhlosion famously had its 3D model not showing fire unless it attacks, which people disliked, it now has the fire active in its idle animations).

These kinds of changes are significantly more common since Dexit.

>>723250527
>The year is 2025
>we can add ray tracing to reflections...even though player reflections are a technology lost to time
>making a good looking 3d pokemon game is literally impossible (((((((because it has to be made for the switch))))))
Modern gaming? Modern gaming.

>>723252775
The whole game of Digimon Time Stranger is about Inori and her new little brother Aegiomon who is very cute and they are not actually related so it's not illegal, so she spends the whole game grooming him.

>>723253160
Weren't most if not all of those changes in gen 9, not 8 though? Dexit should have brought the changes right away, not an entire generation later.

>>723253321
She even makes him wear little boy's clothes

>>723253392
There's definitely more changes in the shift from 8 to 9 than from 7 to 8, which you're right, is weird, when 8 is the one that started dexit.

To actually answer that we'd need to know more than just conjecture though. But the fact is making the changes they made in Gen 9 like giving shiny/scaly/etc textures to every mon is something that is more managable because of Dexit.

this pokemon will flop

>>723251667
>Made in Unity

>>723253160
>Dexit allowed Game Freak to do things that Fanmodders are already doing for free for BDSP's mods!
WOW!

>>723254112
if only
it'll sell even better than s/v and things will continue to get worse

>>723250527
Is it so hard to add more NPCs doing NPC things and having cars passing by to make the city feel more alive?
Majora's Mask already did it in its time in its own city, with scheduled events, at that.

2d-hd is a trending thing, why they never tried it? instead they make the same game with the 3ds engine

>>723254442
>ZZZ still has NPCs with soul even when it's one of Hoyo's smaller projects
Japan really is falling behind China

>>723254442
Small Indie Company.
Budge of 10 gorillion yen ($12)
PUREASE UNDURASTUTANDO!!!!

>>723254127
ZZZ is made in Unity...

>>723254742
>why they never tried it?
because it looks like dogshit?

>>723250596
>No Kanto

>>723255057
I posted before typing what I wanted to say. Saying you're right, cause they always get GEN WUN in somehow.

>>723255057
Wait, has every game since XY given you free KANTOOOOOOO starters or am I misremembering it?

Pokemon needs demon chicks

>>723254297
Fanmodders working with an already finished video game and no limit on dev time

>>723254442

Next you’ll be asking for windows that aren’t painted on

>>723253092
Man, you are fucking retarded. Can you not fucking read?
1st of all, that slide says absolutely nothing about full games, only DLC.
2nd, they say SV DLC ended up costing as much to make as Legends Arceus while being sold for half the money. So instead of making SV DLC they could've made another full game on PLA's scale.

Is this the level of reading comprehension of an average Game Freak hater?

Just a gentle reminder that ZA is releasing on the same console that can run CP77(a 5 year old game btw)

>>723232686 (OP)
that will be 70$ + 30$ + tip

>>723255760
>XY
You get one of three starters very early on.
>SM
No.
>SwSh
You get a free Charmanderino from Leon
>Legends Arceus
No Kanto starters in the game.
>SS
Nope.
>Legends Z-A
Free KANTOOOOOOOO

Overall about 50% of the new games give you a free KANTOOOOOOO starter. If you count remakes that drops slightly from ORAS and BDSP but that's offset from Let's Go shitting the KANTOOOOOOOO starters down your throat.

>>723259257
+ 20 dollars for dlc hidden behind online leaderboards :)

>>723232686 (OP)
Gen 6-9 were dogshit confirmed by the devs themselves
James turner was also one of masuda's favorites that helped ruined the company

>>723232686 (OP)
1. They only need to sell 370k Switch 2 copies to break even
2. For 1/10th of #Concord 's Budget you can make PLZA
3. For 1/10th of #PLZA 's buget you can make Silksong

>>723256246
There are words for what you mean:
DLC
Patches
New Content
Expansion

>>723256856
But you have to remember that Game Freak is a small indie company and Pokémon is a niche, unprofitable franchise that they can't even buy food and keep the lights on by the end of the month so they can't afford to polish their games, otherwise they'll starve.
Be mindful, anon.

The leaked documents revealed Masuda was behind gens 1 to 6 and then he stopped exerting influence on major decisions.
I’m sorry for everything Mr Masuda, you only know how to make kino.

>>723262656
All of Turner’s leaked concept art are extremely detailed and high quality. Quit holding a grudge because of a fucking ice cream cone and a trash bag.
He’s also not behind npcs, the decision to add more troon-core characters was done by higher ups.

>>723262656
It just leaked today that Masuda and James Turner literally did nothing wrong.
I’m sorry you had to find out this way.

>>723232873
Pokemon adults are something else

>Gen 10, a new Legends game, new live service game, and Gen 11 within the next 5 years
Does TPCi really think this many ambitious projects is a good idea in any sense?

>>723232763
>high-quality
fun? can be. But high quality? You really need your head checked.
also great bait.

>>723232686 (OP)
Pretty based to not be wasteful imo

>>723251068
on planet retard

>>723232763
>high-quality games
>Game Freak

>>723238129
Hey good going Bill

>>723248039
Fuck that N igga

>>723260697
I mean USUM doesn't give them to you for free, but you can get KANTOOOOOOOOO starters with Island Scan on the first island.

The Pokémon Company don’t give GameFreak any money to make the games

>>723232925
>The quality of the pokemon games is going to get even worse

How the fuck do they even think like this, or is this just corpo speak for ''Our fans buy anything we put out anyways why should we even bother?''

>>723273303
kek nintendo (2/3 of the pokemon company) only give gamefreak $10m to develop the games and i wonder if that also includes the marketing. thats lower than even 3 man indy steam games get from their publishers.

>>723273303
It's just fair. If they want total creative control they need to use their own money.

>>723232763
>high-quality games

>>723232763
Well memed

>>723232686 (OP)
It has no voice acting at all, it reuses animations from 3DS games, it only takes place in one city. They cut so many corners to make the game work.

>>723234368
Holy shit gamefreak is pathetic

>>723232686 (OP)
There’s no gaming company that runs itself like Nintendo. I have to give them credit sometimes, they’ll never spend themselves into debt and rely on subscriptions to stay afloat like Sony

>>723232925
>No reverse image search results
>Image never posted before
>Quotes from the slide yield no search results except this thread
Source or you're a faggot

Guys what emulator works for this game? Ryubing Canary just crashes a bit into the city intro.

>>723278097
could be your hardware. it works for a lot of other people.

>>723232763
That made sense during the DS era, but that level of "quality" has long passed.