Thread 723243771

Factorio

Suck and Fuck Gleeba

>>723244784
lmao get stomped

>>723244784
spoiled post

Post your fucking Gleba base.
RIGHT NOW MOTHER FUCKER.

Gleba is so shit that I made a way to get the science as fast and early as possible and get the fuck out of there as soon as I'm done researching shit.
Fuck Gleba.

I’m pretty autistic but not autistic enough to figure out purple science
The game was pretty fun up to that point

>>723246817
Purple science is literally just making a fuck ton of steel. The rest is piss easy. Believe me. If you've got a shit ton of steel you've solved purple science.
Wait until you reach Yellow science. The amount of green circuits you need is disgusting.

Making (a trickle) of legendary carbon fiber

>>723244784
>Leave Gleba
>Production line jams immediately due to spoilage

>>723247007
>Bots everywhere
>Even the BIoflux AND Nutrients

>>723243771 (OP)
Factoribro...

>People bitch and moan about Gleba
>But don't you DARE use bots

I've been playing this cute automation game.

>>723247282
Because anyone who sucks Gleba's dick used bots to 'beat' it. You didn't.

>>723243771 (OP)
factorio more like whacktorio lmao

>>723247384
What that is

>>723246349
Ok. I hate it here
https://files.catbox.moe/wiskzg.png

>>723248216
>Silo cheese
Honestly fuck Wube they really fucking shat the bed with Gleba. Not your fault you're using this kind of shit to get by their fuck up.

>>723248267
>those heatpipes
bro thinks he's on aquilo...

>>723247927
It's called "little rocket lab".

>>723248267
Gore webms elicit less disgust in me than this shit.

>>723248412
I have autism. If I don't route the excess heat from the towers somewhere, the thought of the heat going to waste is going to nag me.

Maraxis

>>723247114
I've had it a few times where I leave gleba and when I go back there is nothing on the belts, I sit there for hours and it works fine until I leave and i'm not fucking looking at it anymore.

I like the idea of an onslaught base defense but I don't like how it was implemented in the game. cleaning up enemies feels tedious in late game

>>723243771 (OP)
How is there a fully saturated yellow underground belt that then magically becomes unsatured when it comes back up from the surface?
Also I'm not sure but I think that underground run is too long for a yellow belt, but it's been a while

>>723248431
nope

>>723249207
Cleaning up enemies in late game is just sending a spider or two on autopilot. I find early-mid game more tedious.

>>723243771 (OP)
>never on sale
Yep it's torrent time

I just got the base game and have been neglecting my family playing it. There's so much to do I can't imagine getting SA anytime soon. Realistically how many hours can I put in before being ready for the DLC? It's intimidating

>>723250402
60

>>723250402
At least 100.

>>723250402
Once you've mastered up to yellow science, you're ready.
Space age just adds more layers of mechanics on top of the base game.
Also, launching rockets is much easier than in the base-game.
They added a lot of quality of life improvements to the base game.

>>723250402
You can sink hundreds of hours into it. But you can jump into the DLC immediately. It simply moves some of the tech tree to other planets.

>turns off biters
Yup, it’s gaming time.

>>723251196
>Can't make Biolabs now

grabbity grab grab :DD

>>723251338
I believe nests still spawn, so you can.

>>723251403
delicious space gushers

>>723248550
What's wrong with it?

God, this game is so fucking boring

What do people think of the Space Exploration mod? I've recently made a compatibility patch with my mod (https://mods.factorio.com/mod/aai-loaders-sane) for it, and it looks interesting. Does it override the vanilla Space Age planets?

>>723246349
It's been so long since I've played. I never actually got to Fulgora.

>>723247114
You should have a spidertron by the time you leave Gleba so it's a non-issue.

>>723248216
>Silo spam
So glad they're removing that shit in 2.1

More like fagtorio.

>>723253467
Wube needs to get rid of the fucking furries on the dev team, like, yesterday.
They're even considering removing quality on crushers. Fucking disgusting anti-fun pieces of shit.

>>723253137
SE and Spage are incompatible with each other. Also the general consensus for those who actually make it a decent way into it is that it is tedious, at least with the science and new resources.

>>723253467
>removing silo spam in 2.1
huh?

>>723253387
Spidertrons can reboot a nutrition cycle?

my biggest issue with getting into factorio are the bitters
I dislike the idea that my save can be bricked if I don't deal with them fast enough
but it doesn't sound right to just disable them
Am I just being a little pussy?

>>723253782
Recycle it to get the fish, turn fish into nutrients.

>>723246349
From my first run. I had no clue what I was doing but managed to get things into organized chaos.

>>723253832
Unless you are playing deathworld or going out of your way to force the evolution up, you're not really going to get softlocked by them. If they really are a problem, you can reduce their spawn/evolution rate when making a new save.

>>723253832
There aplenty of options.
Can disable them entirely.
Can set them to peaceful so they only attack when you start shooting at them and otherwise they ignore you.
Can disable expansions so once you clear nests they don't repopulate the area, making them essentially "finite" and allowing you to sevure safe perimiter forever (until you start polluting further away).
Can lower expansion frequency, nest sizes etc.

>rush to bots
>tear down factory because the first draft doesn't have enough throughput
>start recreating factory from scratch
>realize it's lost all soul
>quit

>>723253782
Easily. Just deconstruct some trees and turn spoilage into nutrients to kickstart everything. If you need eggs you can also just go kill a base and grab them.

Pentapod eggs are honestly a non-issue with even the most basic of circuit logic solutions.
If you're making too much, you can even burn the excess in a burner easily. Hell, I would go so far as to say that if you're having fuel problems, pentapod eggs are not the worst fuel to use for turbines.
And a single assembler can restart a nutrient chain with spoilage, so if anything goes wrong there's no reason the factory can't restart again.
The problem I personally have with Gleba is how fucking obnoxious the planet's spoil mechanic is, because using nutrients to power a biochamber, is actually extremely annoying to make decent builds for as opposed to THE REST OF THE FUCKING GAME.
Gleba is solved by most retards by using bots everywhere. That's the general approach most have when they realize how fucking stupid Gleba is.
But none of this would be as frustrating if it wasn't for the simple fact that THE SCIENCE PACK SPOILS.
And you can only have Biolabs ON NAUVIS.
So you have to SHIP CONSTANTLY or lose all of your fucking science into spoilage.
Gleba sucks. It deserves its bad rep. I only wish people shat on Wube more for Gleba.

>>723254048
Honestly if your base needs turrets inside of it to defend against pentapod eggs spoiling you're doing something wrong. There's a lot of easy ways to make sure they never spoil.

>>723249261
Yeah, that's 5 tiles, yellow can only stretch to 4. No wonder the throughput is low.

Also seems like a fun* mod idea, making undies slower the longer they stretch.

>>723254565
Those were there for the eggs I always forgot about in my pocket. I balanced my science so it needs slightly more eggs than I actually produce so it's impossible to end up with extras.

>>723254565
That's like arguing against a borrow checker. Sure a good builder can eliminate the problem, but why not stay on the safe side?

>>723253467
>they're removing that shit in 2.1
Unfathomably based. Silos should be revamped entirely so you can target and launch them with circuits (also do something so I can insert blue chips etc. into the payload.)

>>723254824
If you haven't figured out a surefire fix for all circumstances, then yeah. I guess plopping a few tesla turrets down can't hurt anything other than your power grid.

>>723255403
Just burn the excess eggs to generate power for testa lurrets that are there just in case the excess eggs hatch.

>>723253832
The best piece of advice is that it's far better (for your resources, time, and attention) to proactively destroy all nests that enter your pollution cloud. You go to them, not the other way around. Take advantage of the power spikes new tech gives you: grenades, the car, defender capsules, flamethrower turrets, and the tank.

2.0 gave tanks equipment grids, which means you can trick them out with energy shields, personal laser defenses, and even exoskeletons. Two of each along with one assembler making shells for your main gun - you'll become a God of Death tearing through nests.

More tips:
>Once you have flamethrower towers up biters are no threat there. It's harder to use them offensively but can be done.
>Pipes are good enough to serve as walls in the early game, and cheaper / easier to make
>Placing pipes (or any other object) in a chunk makes biters less likely to expand there. Some pipes in a winding circle around your starting area makes it far less likely biters will expand aggressively
>Once you have red chips, you can make efficiency modules. Everyone underestimates how much pollution electric miners produce; put E. modules in them and your resource patches will be much safer
>Get a mod like Even Distribution to make it easier to quickly put lots of bullets in lots of turrets
>The real best piece of advice is that this is entertainment. If biters make it less >fun, you don't have to play with them

>>723253619
>They're even considering removing quality on crushers
What the fuck?
>fun? NO, THAT'S NOT ALLOWED!
The quality already cucked infinite research when they added the recyclers (hard cap of 300% productivity on almost everything), why the fuck did they even bother adding it if they're just going to nerf the fuck out of anything even remotely interesting?

>>723255896
Space casinos are just too strong apparently.

>>723256108
If it's a fucking endgame I expect there to be SOME way to mass produce legendary stuff.

Would anyone want to play this with me occasionally? Im thinking about starting a new factory, no mods, space age expac enabled.

>finish gleba for the second time
>can't tell if it's better or worse than my original setup

>>723256337
Doesn't that mean it's more or less the same?

>>723256705
Realistically it means I learned nothing and just nigger-rigged everything so I can gtfo gleba.

Is there a way to sort something by the percentage of spoilage?

I bought Space Age and gave up not long after starting to figure out how to make a space raft.

>>723257059
Yes you can. Any filtering will work. You can filter
you filter 100% spoiled from the 99%-0% spoiled ones if you use You absolute fool. Did you really think Wube would allow you to NOT engage with this shit?

>>723257102
It's just one of those things you have to try it out and fix the problems as they arise.
I won't tell you how to do it, but I will say there are several different ways to deal with asteroid chunks

Space Age sucks. Quality sucks. All of the new planets suck. It's like they took the idea of the space mod, which was good, and fucked it up.

>>723257059
Not directly. But you're right that Gleba practically begs you to pick up circuits to try and find a way to solve the bullshit spoilage mechanic.
The main thing you need to know is that only harvesting fruits and having agriculture towers powered produces spore clouds.
The fruits have a long spoil time, so you have plenty of time to process them, only once you do they have a fucking 4 or 3 minute spoil time depending on the type of fruit.
This means that you want to turn them into bioflux and process them as you need them.
But there's a catch. Processing fruits makes seeds. And if you do something wrong, you need to pull spoilage from them.
So, one single biochamber needs not just 2 or 3 but up to fucking 5 different things going in and out of it.
1. Nutrients to power it.
2. Inserter to output finished product
3. Inserter to input ingredients (Sometimes two at a time. That's really fun, right?)
4. Spoil output
5. Seed output

It's no wonder so many faggots jump straight to bots. Gleba is SHIT and badly designed. Fuck Wube.

>>723257283
It seems like a logical feature, it's not like it's cheating if you end up throwing away 80% of your gleba science because you only use the least spoiled.

>>723257414
I like Gleba in that it makes you think outside the box, but there are a lot of features that are bizarrely missing just to make it artificially harder, especially with circuits.

>>723256221
Post a server and I might consider dropping in once in a while.

>>723257059
Just use a belt. The stuff in front is older than the stuff following it.

>>723256221
Last time I tried to play with /v/ I fixed the retard host's purple science. He put the train rails on one half-belt and used long inserters to feed them, he was getting like 10SPM and complained about it for hours until I just quietly fixed it when he was doing something else. I didn't even change his setup really, just moved the tracks to a single belt and switched them so a fast inserter could grab them, he flipped out, deconstructed the entire thing, and banned me.
I don't even care if things are inefficient, it's not like I was shitting on him or anything. I probably wouldn't have even helped him with it if he wasn't complaining about it.

>>723257673
Well. Id like to progress with people online, so debating just a listen server while hosting and not leaving it up full time.

>>723258115
Thats cringe. I wouldn't mind if anyone did anything especially for the sake of effenciency. Thats how you learn sometimes too, is seeing it work correctly. Maybe its a game to only play with closer friends

>>723258385
Well unfortunately /v/ is probably not a great place to host a server and invite people to join long term, unless it's a weekly scrimblo racing game or modded up the ass tf2 server. If you post a server and time to join I might consider joining but I can't guarantee that I can regularly join either.

>>723257901
could easily double the throughput by splitting the copper input to also go above the train w/ another red inserter (underground belts are my passion). Though I suppose then you'd also have to unload from above too and merge the belts...

>>723257901
My favorite part of this is that you have to refuel it by hand

>>723259017
Okay, but why when you could instead halve the throughput by limiting the red inserter to 1 item per grab.

>>723257901
You could optimize this by removing the rightmost power pole.

>>723259017
I'm not sure if throughput was the leading design principle here.

>>723259343
he's future proofing

>>723243771 (OP)
I quit after doing the three first planets and when you had go design both automated interplanetary logistic ships as well as a hauler to the ice planet
I think I don't enjoy the spaceship part of the dlc

>>723254117
Ah the story of humanity

>>723253336
How to do deal with constant armored bug attack? You got no defense.
>>723246349
It never jammed except when one lone stomper magically got in the middle of the base then I have no way to restart it since it needs 200MW to power Tesla turrets so I reloaded a save. If this stops, it will never start again, that's the part I didn't devise any system for.

>>723260474
>You got no defense.
Don't need it. The spores don't reach the nests.

>>723260347
I caved and used other people's designs, hate designing ships but enjoy mostly everything else.

>>723260474
>You got no defense.
If you have artillery turrets with a further range than your spore cloud you won't need any.

>>723254432
>If you're making too much,
I can also just always make less and then that's it. I still need to put laser turrets, what if one lab has eggs but doesn't work? Still need to kill the hatchling.
My nutrient line is a single belt going across all biolabs. Reminder that the spoilage of the fruits affect the nutrient start spoilage which then affects the bioflux spoilage and then the egg spoilage and then the science pack spoilage. I put the packs in box then say to the inserter to pick the freshest to put in the rocket.
The only problem I had was having no flush system to dump spoilage in lava on Vulcanus which is where I put my science labs when I research something that doesn't take Gleba science packs, otherwise I get 300+ science per minute, never had an issue, it works all by itself.

>>723261326
I didn't think of that, so I don't need 200 Tesla turrets. I was thinking of laying a 20 wide mine field at the edge of everything but that would take so long to place.

>>723257414
>The fruits have a long spoil time, so you have plenty of time to process them
No you don't have time, if you process an almost spoiled fruit it will yield an almost spoiled product.

And no you don't need to have seed output, you can have seed and spoilage output then separate them with splitter and also use the priority output of splitters to send the excess seeds into the burner with the spoilage.

>>723257391
SE welding cocksucking retarded AAI to itself is one of the worst decisions ever

>>723262287
AAI is probably the least of SE's problems outside of pre-space.

>>723257391
nobody tell him

For me Gleba was the most fun planet slightly above Fulgora.
I am completely incapable of making a good looking space platform to be able to enjoy it and fuck thrusters

>>723262917
literally just learn circuits, it's not hard

>>723253832
Do one vanilla factorio playthrough
Then for the space age one, make biters not expand but be more in numbers and reduce the amount of ores from each patch so you'll still be forced to expand and exterminate bugs

>>723263317
Don't need circuits except to start the iron/copper bacteria production and then stop once it detects that some are on the belt and/or the biolabs.

>>723263868
fuck that just keep everything going

>>723263983
That wastes too much green cubes and red mush.

>>723262917
Platforms are easier to design than you think. You can even use your hub as a storage chest and hook it up to most shit to keep stuff compact.
This is what my science looks like. This gets me enough to get to any starter planet comfortably. You honestly don't need more than this as your first white power production.

>>723264142
This is 150/m
If you want to double it, then making a second platform is extremely cheap. Just look at this shit. I'm proud of this one.

>>723264142
In my current run I spent 2 hours trying to do this with only one crusher. I'm not even that new to circuits but that shit drove me crazy
maybe it can be done with parameters which I learned about last week

>>723264591
The fact these assholes don't offer a tutorial for parameters fucking makes my blood boil. Fuck Wube. God damn dickheads.

>>723264069
Just get more green and red stuff, it's not like you're going to run out.

>>723264591
I don't see how parameters can help since those are only really there to allow someone to define things when pasting a blueprint.
You'd be better off with some simple deciders
If belt has > on it then output signal for that type of asteroid processing.
Then tell the grinder to change recipe based on signal and output

So that will just tell the grinder to switch to a recipe if the belt has more than a certain amount on it.

>>723263983
Eventually it will clog on iron/copper.

>>723264708
Another 2 hours wasted because parameters don't work if you name the request list you wish to parametritize

>>723264591
RBH I wish the crushers used furnace logic, just grab whatever asteroid and crush it. The mixed output recipes could just be done with a mk2 crusher.

>>723264591
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Give this a try.
It's a simple circuit set up to tell the grinder the recipe.
I've added a clock so it cycles through the recipes and you can just take that out if you don't want it.

>>723265083
You can just set the crushers to have the recipe of whatever is in the belt in front of it. Ain't no problem that green wires can't fix.

Plan? Nah nah nah. Stick that new shit wherever.

>>723264591
If you plug the belt in front of the arm with the crusher, the belt signal of the asteroid will be understood by the crusher as the basic asteroid crushing recipe, which makes it possible to have a single crusher crush all 3 asteroids.

>>723266049
just download squeek through, there's no shame in it, it should be in the base game.

>>723253619
>they're even considering removing quality on crushers. Fucking disgusting anti-fun pieces of shit.
Getting legendary quality modules takes long time already, removing quality on crushers will take so much time to produce legendary items in bulk. This is all post-endgame content and silliness once you complete the game, Wubes needs calm down with nerfs and removals.

>>723266174
I think they want you to get stuck on everything all the time

>>723266650
It was stupid to have that much collision, especially before the mech suit. I'm not saying you should be able to phase through everything, but getting stuck on shit, especially trees/pipes/power poles constantly is dumb as fuck

>>723264895
My iron and copper never clogs even if it's full. If no bacteria is on the belt it will just restart on its own when it has the space.

I couldnt bear to get past the first one or two planet on space age. building space platforms is so goddamn annoying because everything needs bubblewrapping to make sure resources cant flood its storage. I waited for space exploration to update to 2.0 and am happily playing that instead. I stopped before deep space last time but I enjoy having to scale up resource production and being able to lay claim to entire planets and all of their resources

>>723269278
I used to do this, now I just have the excess get sent overboard using the splitter belt priority and don't use the platform storage.
Although because of Aquilo, I now stock a certain portion of the excess on the storage to ship down if needed.

>>723269468
I get what they were going for with space platforms, but they’re programmed to be a puzzle way too much and a lot of issues they have are limitations intentionally introduced to make them a pain in the ass to work with in any other way but the intent. They even reduced the ammo stack size because people found shipping ammo to them was more cost effective then producing it on the platform.
If I didn’t have to ensure that literally everything had splitters, circuits, and funnels to throw out excess material, I might enjoy it more. As it stands, making a pleasing and effective platform design is too much trial and error. Not being able to place additional storage beyond the central hub and its extensions is cancer.

>>723256173
kovarex doesnt like it, therefore its bad
Just look at how long it took that stubborn mule to give in to research qeue

>>723269278
putting stuff in the landing pad on a platform is a shitter technique

I love designing compact/minimal space stuff. But sometimes I hate it too. Ships can get too hard to design when you're autistic enough to waste as few tiles as possible.

>>723270961
Readability > Compactness.

A big, aesthetic factory that's districted with a clear input-output lines. Now that's beautiful.

>>723271271
Shit taste

>just started playing for the time
>despite having owned it for 5 years
>go through the tutorial
>last mission scared me, bail on it
>buy the space age dlc because it looked cool
>follow the recommendation of immediately disabling the expansion anyway for a first playthrough
>start freeplay on default settings
>feel kinda proud of my shitbox
>think green science is assembling steel plates and copper plates (it's not)
>sphagetti my way into actually making branches of treadmills work to refactor it after 5 hours
>start a second freeplay because i'm curious what the seed generation looks like
Thanks for reading my blog. I'm almost certainly a ngmi for anything past green potions. This is kinda like learning how to sketch when you're too afraid to even start with a shrimple pencil on paper.

>>723271271
Designing optimized and compact ships for various tech levels is the ultimate endgame. I don't know why you would care about "readability" unless you use other people's blueprints, you should know what is going on in your designs. Compact doesn't mean it has to be just a thrown together spaghetti mess with everything all over the place.

>>723253619
>NOOOO NOT THE FURRYERINOS REMOVING MY FREE LEGENDARY SHIT AND SILO CHEESE!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Asteroid casinos must go.

>>723247007
you really, really need to learn when speed beacons are actually beneficial in the production of quality products.
please tell me you're at least upcycling toolbelts.

>>723271971
The best way to get started is to start producing gears and circuits from your first iron and copper furnace stacks. You can produce all the starting items from a belt of iron and second one with the gears and circuits

>>723271971
Blue science (after green and military) is the biggest filter in the entire game that makes people stop playing. More complicated inputs in addition to needing to play with fluids. But your reward for it- well the reward to making blue science is needing to figure out advanced oil processing (the first time the game gives you a problem that is best solved with a circuit condition), but the reward for figuring out THAT is bots, which are the single most important upgrade in the game. Even if you can only struggle-scrap together a factory that makes a couple bots per minute, that still gives you all the bots you need to do *everything* far faster than you used to. Embrace whatever spaghetti you need to get bots automated, only then start thinking about ripping things up and remaking your factory more efficient/pretty.

>>723271271
I'm okay with cityblock shitters like yourself so long as you acknowledge that such methods are objectively worse in every way compared to compactness. if you can't immediately determine what a part of your factory is doing and you aren't a new player, that's entirely the fault of your brain. and even then, do you not know that ctrl+f in the logistics tab finds where things are being made?

>>723271271
Automation means that you shouldn't even be able to read what is going on in the screen, because it's automated, no need for manual input.

>>723273035
>. if you can't immediately determine what a part of your factory is doing and you aren't a new player, that's entirely the fault of your brain
No true scotsman bullshit. You're going to divine what a circuit does from the overview are you, faggot?

>>723273507
Yeah, no system ever needs to be changed ever has any bugs or ever needs to be expanded.

Brainlet posters in full force.

>>723272510
Do you usually suck ten dicks at parties, tranny?

>>723271271
I just hit a thousand hours recently and the more I play, the more I appreciate ultra-compact spaghetti. Personally I stick with a half-bus half-spaghetti hybrid because it's just what my brain understands, but I love looking at other people's spaghetti and having to look at it for a few minutes to figure out what the fuck is going on.

>>723271401
Nothing better than giving up trying to figure out how your own factory works

>>723271971
theres a tutorial? The best advice you'll ever get is to just start figuring out what you need to make to make the next thing and make it.
Don't follow any guides, don't listen to retards telling you you NEED to make a bus/cityblock/anything, and DEFINITELY don't download blueprints online for anything besides belt balancers.
I played the game on and off for years before I launched a rocket in vanilla, eventually everything will just click, and don't be afraid of the DLC, you get to tackle it when you're ready and it's not that much different from the base game nowadays.

tl;dr stop worrying about how to play and just play it.

>>723253619
idgaf what they do, someone will make a mod that reverts/fixes it.
It's not his game anymore.

>>723248821
why not funnel the shit you want to burn to one place instead?

>>723272972
the great filters for most people seem to be advanced oil (this is one of the first times most people try to learn logic circuits), red chips, and space platforms (also mostly because of circuits, but I think too people don't know you can just dump shit off the side of the platform, I blame lack of communication for this one).

>>723271971
The best advice I ever got, and what made me finally understand the game, is don't worry about expanding, give yourself room to build shit and plan on being able to expand what you build. People get hung up on exact numbers and trying to be 100% efficient all the time but it's not something you should worry about until your factory looks like a motherboard.

>>723275301
>People get hung up on exact numbers and trying to be 100% efficient
Wow, do they? My storage are my belts, if they're not rammed full with surplus then I'm underproducing somewhere.
Granted I guess that won't fly with all the complexities added in space age but I haven't played in a few years anyway.

>>723272250
>No rocket symmetry
REEEEE

>>723253467
>>723253619
Source or fuck off.

>>723275836
That's my strategy, when I see an empty belt I just make another belt of whatever it is and plug it in

>>723253832
your a pussy
try rampant biters

>>723253832
You're being a little pussy, if you played the game for more than an hour, you would realize how retarded you are.

>>723271271
Nah

>>723275910
>Spoon feed me!!!
Shut the fuck up retard.

>>723272523
At least on Gleba, it doesn't matter. Resources are literally infinite, and using speed beacons produces more legendary carbon fiber, at least in the same footprint.

>>723253619
>pic
I've only ever seen this guy talk when he's been clipped by youtubers. Is there an actual full video of whatever weird conference this took place in?

>>723276558
this terrifies, confuses, and infuriates the blueprint negro

>>723244784
It's not that hard
Just set circuit conditions to destroy everything that hasn't been used after a few minutes and filter inserters to take spoilage out of everything

>>723276692
I really can't recommend making a blueprint that's just an inserter set to spoilage and putting on your toolbar enough.

>>723276656
Blackrock is made up of Globalist Zionists. Anytime they have a conference it's about sucking each other off and justifying baby killing to bring back slavery. These people are demons. If you've seen one of their conferences you've seen them all. It always boils down to that.

>>723276828
I think we should force these people to stream themselves starting a new factorio run so we can laugh at them for not being able to figure out green science

>>723276919
Zuckerberg would just get the Biters to dox themselves and then sell their data to the highest bidder.
Faucci would get the pentapods to get a 'safe' and 'effective' vax to help their egg production. (It makes them infertile)

>>723273878
Only a faggot barges into a thread and talks about dicks and trannies unprompted.

>>723250402
I put 700 hours in before space age, but that was over almost 10 years. I'd suggest doing a non-dlc run first, it's a significant reorganization from base game. Took me and some buddies (before they dropped out) 300 hours.

>>723248431
Oh it’s that tranny game

>>723277027
just two more weeks bro i swear
bros the bodies will pile up in the streets bros just two more weeks
for real this time bro watch cnn in two weeks it's happening

>>723250402
Beating the base game is enough to be ready for the expansion. Probably 40-50 hours on your first time go.

>>723274514
I have fond memories of staring at this for about 30 minutes wondering if I should address it but then ultimately deciding that it wasn't deadlocking anywhere and was thus perfectly acceptable
I later had to go back to set up legendary speed 3 modules, about 80 hours later, and realised that trying to add anything to it caused it to irreparably break

>>723276919
All of them would get the express delivery achievement on their first run without even trying. They're just better than you. That's how they got their power. You can cope and seethe all day long but that's just how the world works.

>>723277204
A single piece of lead is all it takes to remind the world that billionaires are mortal, too. That cock sucking health insurance CEO found out real quick.

>>723277260
They can kill you too, you know.

>>723277325
They can fucking try.
I'm not scared of pedophiles who think lying is virtuous. Are you?

>>723277185
This is honestly pretty easily readable, the pipe visualizer is making it look way messier than it is in practive.

>>723277396
It takes a special kind of retard to think you're going to kill everyone else and nobody else will kill you.

>>723277162
So why'd you vote for him, then?

>>723277514
Good job failing reading comprehension back in high school.

>>723277515
I haven't voted in over a decade. I'm not going to bother when the only two choices are the same shit with a different coat of paint.

>>723277561
>A single piece of lead is all it takes to remind the world that billionaires are mortal, too. That cock sucking health insurance CEO found out real quick.
>They can fucking try.
I passed easily. You obviously failed hard and ended up seething about more successful people on the video games board of 4chan.

>>723277635
Boy you sure are a fucking moron.
Look, faggot. I don't have to lift a finger before the civil war starts. Have you seen the shit going on around you lately? Gold going way up? The elites retreating back into their bunkers? They're obviously preparing to hide away for when shit hits the fan.
When it does, you're going to have to protect yourself and your family or fucking die. You're not going to get a choice.

>>723277742
>2
>more
>weeks
>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
/pol/turds think they're geniuses but fail at basic pattern recognition (extremely ironic)

>>723277802
Basic pattern recognition should teach us that NO empire lasts forever.

>>723277802
Are they even paying you for this? Or are you a bot? You're kind of weird.

>>723277853
>/pol/ fallback: post twitter screencap

>>723277929
Bot confirmed.

>>723277972
A bot would be more coherent and less predictable than you.

what a great thread about the video game factorio

>>723257901
>tfw waiting for more underground belts to get delivered

just 404 the thread, time to start over

>>723278278
>OP is a picture of box art with 1 word attached to it
did you really expect a thread that wasn't shit? shouldn't have replied to it.

>>723262917
Same kinda. I hated it at first but figuring it out was very satisfying and I look back at it most fondly. Took lots of rebuilds and a blueprint to prevent running out of pentapod eggs to get there though.

>>723278278

You're right, we should go back to bitching about Gleba.

>>723279095
>Had to get a blueprint online

>the one factorio thread where nobody complains about the game never going on sale is filled with /pol/tards having a melty
it really makes you think

>>723279182
I'm here for it.

>>723257901
why? it cant even refuel

>>723279156
I made my own first, but I wanted a more optimal one that never locked up. Picrel is my SOVL one from an old screenshot.

>>723279410
Here's mine. It never lets any eggs hatch because the very miniscule excess is burned as fuel for a heating tower.
And all it took was a literal minor circuit condition on a belt before the end.
7/sec science packs constantly. No quality. Pure churn and max freshness.

>>723279628
Noice, after a certain point I started getting a little sick of circuits, literally everything running on Gleba is using a circuit condition lmao.

>>723243771 (OP)
this game isint torture enough i need it to be more like gregtech

>>723280128
go play pyanodons

>>723280004
Just don't start over, you'll finish eventually
t. Got bored on Aquillo and put the game down for multiple months, literally had 10 hours left in the game.

>>723280174
What makes it so hard?

>>723280174
can i install mods on a cracked game

>>723279182
It's free bumps

When's the next DLC?

>>723280389
yes

>>723243771 (OP)
Play Space Exploration, not Space Age. Space Age is for homosexuals.
>t. 4900 hours

>>723273767
My system's power level is maximum.

>>723280657
you shouldn't be bragging about wasting 4900 hours with your dogshit taste

>>723280657
what's the diff?

>>723280642
good because i may also get this cool train mod

>>723281174
Space Age actually makes you play the game differently where Space Exploration is just different colored planets with varying resource densities and availabilities

>>723280004
>>Space Age run killed by getting bored on Aquilo
Just build a super spaceship (all solar) that drops carbon down to power everything. It cuts out like 99% of the work.

>>723281174
Space exploration is a dramatic expansion of logistics and base management. The spaceships are considerably more sophisticated and customized. Space Age is checkers. Space Exploration is Go.

>>723281863
Go is boring and overrated.
I just want to fight shit in space outside stupid rocks.

>>723275881
It's the best bro

Been fucked up in my head and havnt been able to get back into this game for like a year.
Just hopped back onto my 2nd attempt at space age. Im back on nauvis and just added some express belts to solve some iron and copper issues and expanded my roboport network so they can repair the laser turrets or walls out around the perimeters.

I have to automate a volcanus spaceship to bring back science.

I did this on co op but never designed so its kinda new now.

I just wanna get to the 2nd planet the recycle one since i didnt play that.

It was hard to get back in when i forgot everything i was doing

>>723271971
My first time playing i was kinda retarded and getting filtered at the 3rd or 4th science pack but you come back and stuff clicks

Now im a circuit enjoyer and have designed cool shit without any guides

>>723246902
>pre gold science
man what the fuck am I supposed to do with all this copper lying around?
>gold science
oh

>>723282467
just start over bro

>>723248960
what am i seeing in this image? what are the modded dome things doing?

>>723285378
>looks it up
>its blue because its underwater

Kill Bugs
Kill Bugs. Put bullets into bugs. Automate putting bullets in bugs. Drive around bugs throwing grenades. Pour fire on bugs. Put explosives next to bug homes. Shoot lasers at bugs. Ram bugs with a train. Burn bugs with lasers. Create a machine entirely for blowing up bugs. Throw death at bugs over the horizon. Refine uranium to eradicate entire bug colonies. Blot out the sun with nuclear clouds aimed at bugs. TOTAL. BUG. DEATH.

>>723281851
Nuclear does the job. I just ship a shitload of fuel cells.
Everything always boils down to just launching like 50 rockets a minute from Nauvis and brute forcing Aquilo.

>>723281851
WHAT IN TARNATION

>>723285801
I play the game to make my defenses deeper. Find choke points. Annihilate biters. Deploy legions of spidertrons. Clear the map.

Not enough cute fanart

>>723288868
not enough fanart period
shit's a dry well

>>723289073
A sad state of affairs.

>>723289385
Cute engineer

>>723289073
Does this count?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE8KMnGm2Xw

>>723289565
It does. Have this
https://youtu.be/01qux-5Qx_Y?si=t70oZLgVQpE0rr29

>>723289385
nice touch with the lua in the background lol

>>723254916
>also do something so I can insert blue chips etc. into the payload
Can you not insert rocket ingredients into a payload?

>>723289385
Efficiencybros...

>>723289776
only via robot logistics, you can't use inserters as they'll just target the ingredient slot for blue chips and never the cargo slots

>>723289721
built for being ran over by trains

>>723289893
>trains from production to inserters next to rockets
>inserters into logic chests
>dedicated network of just a few ports moving them one space over into the rocket
it's like poetry or something

>>723290898
>hotglue gun

>>723276692
>filter inserters
What are you, megabasing?
Split em out.

>>723291361
For when you just gotta fix things

orb

>>723291762
the body is round

>>723291762
How long did it take to get the edges perfectly round?

>>723253945
>mulching automated spider robots for the joke ingredient in the crafting recipe is the most effective way to transport fish interplanetarily
o i am laffin

>>723250402
Beat the base game, then play vanilla expansions like Krastorio 2, then once you're done with those move onto Spage and be a little disappointed

>>723291906
not too long, just made a quadrant, copied and rotated it

the platform thing with asteroids in every square inch of "space" is stretching suspension of disbelief a bit too far. nobody expected full kerbal space program physics but its pretty retarded.

>>723292472
What if you tried using your imagination and what you see is only a representation of its parts but the reality is a space station with internal parts and compartments but limited areas around the outside

>>723292472
>space drag

OP's automated conversation tool has greatly improved. Congratulations.

>open up editor mode to check something
>decide to finally redesign my old shitty Gleba blueprints
>and modularize my spaceship sections so I can upgrade them in chunks
>and optimize the build order for my automalls
>and rework my Fulgora stockpile blueprint
>and redo Kovarex
>and build a rocket weight calculator
One of these days I'm going to get back around to actually playing the game.

>>723246349
I really liked gleba but it is by far the worst for me when it comes to spaghetti because of the need to loop everything. I genuinely enjoyed the change of pace and the new challenges presented and liked both the visual style and soundtrack of the planet. Now that I'm done here I have to go back and modernize vulcanus, nauvis and finally get around to establishing a fulgora base worth a shit.

>>723291762
bro, your space penis?

>>723246435
he asked for base, not your momma

>>723296164
well good thing he didn't ask for yours because it drops the ups down to negative values

>>723243771 (OP)
Release the Space Age on Switch, you lazy fucks.

>>723253137
arcospheres are annoying. you actually need to bruteforce some condition with sheer numbers to overkill probability
>inb4 lmao filtered
my friend who teaches advanced maths came came with such conclusion, I know I'm dumb

>>723296309
Switch 1 is too shit to handle it. They'd need to do some janky shit like unload any map that you're not currently in.

>>723276558
>want a little higher output
>well, time for a new game

>>723297002
I'm surprised the game runs on Switch at all.

>>723293545
>Haha time to update my xyz blueprint
>spend an hour
>it's shit

>>723244784
the most new and fun planet. you literally got filtered (probably because you didn't filter, ironically)

>>723253137
>I made a mod for it. tell me about it
what

>>723254117
>tear down factory because the first draft doesn't have enough throughput
always use the first base to build the second. don't scrap everything before.

>>723301218
Yeah, that's a lesson learned the hard way, multiple times over.

How long until i unlearn making things compact?
I try to build roomy factories, but always end up spacing things too close.
100 hours in, by the way

>>723301976
Another 200 hours

this is my rail yard. roast me.

>>723256221
I'm down. I broke my foot 8 weeks ago and made threads about it. Have sunk 300 hours in. I'm still retarded, haven't made it to Gleba yet because I'm scared both of the extra mental processing I'll need to do and I want some casinos+Vulcanus and Fulgora to be efficient first. But yeah I've been looking for someone to chill with.

>>723302131
Eh it's fine, ugly but functional.

>>723302131
why concrete in your supply train

>>723302131
>all this for one red belt of resources
what are you doing. oh gosh, TWO whole belts for iron woah.

>>723303874
because i like to have flooring in my mines.

>>723303874
Building directly on dirty ground is for plebs

You have 1 hour to come up with an idea fora new planet and reply to this post or you factory will never expand again.

>>723303981
space age tech makes your factory shrink though.

>>723248398
Is it petty of me to say that Gleba unironically ruined space age for me?

>>723303981
Maybe an optional planet that is combat oriented, that actually can make proper use of all these rocket/tesla/rail turrets.

>>723243771 (OP)
haha le autism so epic! i love when my whole base is destroyed by roached and i love when i need to make and combine 15227 different materials to progress!

>>723303981
Biters and worms on asteroids

>>723304170
>i love when my whole base is destroyed by roached
nobody forces you to play with bitters on
>and i love when i need to make and combine 15227 different materials to progress!
it's almost like its an automation game or something

>>723248431
>SNIIIIIIIIIFF

>>723304157
I remember there being a mod that adds a planet of rogue robots.
after you land they start building turrets and shit and begin advancing through the tech tree.

>>723277027
what the author of this pic doesn't get is that I don't want the foreigner nor the billionaire to have my cookies

>>723301175
My mod adjust the costs of a building from another mod. I haven't actually played with Space Exploration.

>>723276558
>legendary-machines promethium ship
>even opted for legendary turrets (lmfao)

>gun turrets
HAHAHAHAHA

i always play the game up until i reach the space platform and then i lose motivation to play
how do i make it fun?

>>723307274
For me it was a matter of properly automating all the shit needed for platforms - grabbers, crushers, platform foundations etc. Trying to build platforms and running out of some component all the time and having to make more on the go constantly was killing the fun.

>>723303981
Waterworld planet
Radars and upgrades sonars to detect resources
Offshore rigs to mine resources
Offshore pumps to pump oil
Rigs are much bigger than BMD's but can only be used on water foundations

The main gimmick being platform tiles have a max weight capacity, larger buildings spread their weight over more tiles, but struts can be constructed to connect tiles and spread weight over a larger area

Mining offshore releases sediment and pollutants into the surrounding water and aggro creatures undersea, these creatures don't attack the player, just the platforms and damaged platforms destabilize the integrity, potentially causing submersion and sinking.

<70% weight capacity - Normal foundation
>70% weight capacity - Submerged foundation
100%+ weight capacity - Foundation sinks, destroying it and whatever was on it.
Damaged foundations have a reduction of max weight based on damage.

Could integrate with other planets as well, offshore rigs and sonar finding massive oil wells out at sea in Nauvis, Lithium brine on Aquilo, Stone and bacteria on Gleba, Tons of scrap on Fulgora etc.
Plus boats, freighters, floatation platforms giving an alternative to elevated rails, destroyers for water/surface bombardment, upgraded spidertron that can walk on water

The foundation gimmick is pretty much already there with space platforms acting similar just with no weight values

>>723303981
The planet from Pitch Black.

I don't understand how you can play this game without making a bus. Well that and a railnetwork which kinda seems like a bus with extra steps also impossible.
I want to play spaceage but I also don't want to build a bus for the fourth time.

>>723307578
I guess I shouldn't have said railnetwork but city blocks with automated railwork.

>>723288868
>>723289181
>>723289385
These (and others in the same style) are actually drawn by one of the developers, Hrusa.

>>723303981
Planet that has oscillating orbit compared to the others.

Orbits already don't really make sense since they all act stationary, but a planet that was periodically closer or further requiring actual timing of the supply ships etc.

Alternatively incredibly heavy gravity planet that you can't land on and you have to build a special initial lander for or something.

I think they should make the tank amphibious like the one from Command and Conquer 3 in the Japanese faction.

I dislike Vulcanus.
The whole time I was playing it, I didn't understand the point of it existing.
The production/smelting and there everything feels like something that should just be accessible on Nauvis in a special biome, maybe after completing 1 other planet.

I just don't see the point of it being its own planet, it's barely different from the shit you normally do on Nauvis.

>>723243771 (OP)
I'll always know this game as "that shitty ass pixel shit that never goes on sale and raised the price of the game because muh inflashun"

>>723308020
Oh I didn't know Hrusa was a dev.

>>723309101
I feel like all the planets kind of feel like they should've just been biomes of Nauvis, it doesn't make sense that every planet is just one (more or less) consistent biome across the entire surface.
Asteroids would be the obvious exception and you could still do things about needing to get to space first before you can travel to another biome because when you're having to do intercontinental travel you might as well overshoot slightly and use ballistic (orbital) trajectories anyway.
Maybe you could still have one actual other planet if it's like Venus, where the atmosphere is radically different globally.

>>723310818
> it doesn't make sense
Not what I'm saying and your ideas would not make it a better game, I think.

What the hell does silos have to do with gleba
Stuff are going to spoil in there anyways

>>723296720
lmao filtered
Every arcoshpere recipe has one of two outcomes, you can have a completely closed system that resets them orbs for each one.

>>723278278
This is the kind of discussion abib wants.

I feel like i can't play this game again as long as i'm still employed

>>723312948
The size most likely, it's like a fuckhuge chest

>>723309568
lmao poorfag cope

>>723309568
I just pirated it, fuck the greedy devs

time to start a new run, lets go

>>723315721
the devs have even said they prefer you just pirate the game instead of buying it through secondhand sites anyways

>>723301976
I think I finally got it after about 5-600 hours

>>723301976
You're just learning the game for the first 200 hours

>>723309568
>pixel
brain damage

Im new at the game, is there anything i should know beforehand?

>>723316298
Learn the hotkeys

>>723316298
Yeah, just play it and don't ask for help

>>723316298
Finish 1 playthrough without guides

>>723316298
make sure to post a screenshot of your factory to reddit after setting up 3 miners and a boiler

>>723293937
>all those turrets
You do know pentapods only attack your farms (and turrets) right?

What's the recommended planet order?

>>723318489
Fulgora first for the mech suit

>>723316298
Press alt to show icon overlay.
Hope you don't start in a desert.

>>723318489
Gleba first for spidertron.

Factory games are literally just
>increase amount of assembly machines until the belt in consistently full, then blueprint and copy paste
Why not just play something with better logistics like yeti or firs openttd, or better yet wargames

>>723318489
Aquilo first for fusion power

>>723318489
In terms of difficulty probably Vulcanus/Fulgora in whatever order, then Gleba.
But they can be done in any order, and Gleba has arguably best technologies to unlock out of the three.

>>723296309
What do you mean, it's on the steam deck already?

>>723302131
I did something similar but I ensured that 2 4 units long train can wait in their station. I also use only 1 rail and make trains wait in their station if it's in use. So far it served me well, nothing to improve upon.

>>723318489
For a player new to Spage? Vulcanus -> Fulgora -> Gleba. Gleba last, or at least after Fulgora for the simple fact that Tesla turrets shred pentapods and mech armor makes traversal easier, and Vulcanus before Fulgora because foundries are really fucking good.

>>723303981
Literally just Hell. It's got all the spawn rates cranked up as much as possible. You can only go here after researching a bunch of combat techs.

i love fulgora so much bros
the isolation, the lightning storms, the ruins

Tips for gleba?

>>723319963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpphSBYFYso

Vulcanus is boring

>>723319963
Build everything in small modules that go take in the fruits and output finished (non-spoiling) product. Don't try to have centralized bioflux etc. production. Turn off the input inserters when the chests are getting full. Make all the belts lead to incinerators, don't let anything lie around to spoil.

>>723319963
Set your farms to turn off if you have greater than x amount of fruit. It'll stop your spore cloud from being massive. Pic related is from before I realized I could do that.

>>723319963
Understand that resources on Gleba (except stone) are literally, 100% infinite. It doesn't matter how much of your fruit goes to waste, it can be replaced for effectively free. That being said, limit your production to what you need otherwise pentapods will swarm you. Like >>723320838

>>723243771 (OP)
>just a simplified version of much realistic and immersive Satisfactoy

>>723320605
>>723320838
>>723321485
thx bros i might get back to it gleba filtered me

>>723288868
Biter: fug :D

>>723318917
Yes, but I'd like to play it on a real handheld that did better than the nGage

>>723321485
>That being said, limit your production to what you need otherwise pentapods will swarm you.
Get artillery up and you almost never see them.

>>723323397
Do you import the shells then?

>>723323674
if you have automated space ship routes you can do shells (stack size is bad) but it's easier to just manually bring over 5 stacks of raw materials which will probably last like 50 hours

My experience of going to Gleba as my first planet:
https://youtu.be/OaGOhwuTfKw?t=7

>>723320838
Or as someone told me yesterday, set artillery to destroy every single pod that spawns where your spore cloud can reach.

>>723318489
Gleba first for advanced asteroid processing.

>>723319963
Do not create loops. Products can spoil on loops. Instead create an endpoint chest where stuff goes to spoil and an inserter from that chest into a heating tower.

>>723319963
Product's spoilage inherit their ingredient's spoilage level :^)

>>723325740
Why not make nutrients out of the spoilage?

>>723325740
My first Gleba base was a massive loop I was really proud of it and it ran really long without any problems until my seeds backed up
Bioflux and nutrients on the same belt but nutrients need multiple machines producing it all around the loop

>>723325740
you include escape splitters to the loops, dingus

>>723243771 (OP)
>Factorio
>build machines
>so you can mine more material
>so you can build more machines

Easily one of the most boring games I have ever played in my life

>>723326587
Literally noone asked.
Now go back to bing bing wahoo and watch coin number go up

>Want to play again
>Remember the first 10 hours before you can start to have fun
i should really keep an old save as backup that has at least the third 3 sciences set up

>>723326102
Spoilage is too precious, create nutrients from red crystals.
Oh and another tip, nutrients cannot be burned.

>>723326585
The functional problem with this is that it invites the possibility of half your belt being spoiled and your biolabs not being able to work until the later part of the belt being spoiled or used. The later part of the belt should all be exclusively older than the earlier part, in other words you should maintain an ascending order of spoilage on the belt to maintain full operation.

>>723326587
So that you can learn how you fucked up and fix your flaws. It's a bideo game.

>>723327328
Just use it before it spoils

>>723325740
I don't think even new players would be dumb enough to fall for this

>>723327617
You can't ensure that. What you can is that if the end spoils it gets flushed.

>>723326587
You could have just said you couldn't figure out green science. We all get stuck on our first playthrough and have to take a break.

>>723327812
It's a loop you can split off spoilage wherever you want

Do you meticulously calculate ratios or "screw it, just add more iron plates"?

>>723328085
I've never seen anyone who's autistic about ratios actually make it past blue science without just downloading blueprints online or giving up.

>>723328085
I don't know how to calculate them
Something like pumps and steam to turbines is easy but I have no idea what the numbers on assembling machines mean

>>723328085
just add more raw materials, they won't go anywhere

>>723328085
I just try to make sure I'm not taking more from a belt than it can supply to not starve it, that's about it. No need to be perfect.

>>723328428
Pretty sure it wasn't always this way, but current tooltips on assemblers are super clear.
[I need this many materials per second] -> [I make this many things per second]

>>723328085
You are rarely in a position where you have too many iron plates.

>>723328085
I refuse to care about ratios until they change the language in the UI
I have no fucking clue what "crafting speed" means and I'm not going to look up every single crafting recipe online because the game can't just say "assemblers needed for full blue belt: 6"

>>723328643
That's helpful. Do you need to add to that the bonus from speed modules or does it tell that directly?

>>723328826
Have you made it to steel production yet?

>>723328921
I made it to flux and tungsten export.

>>723328903
It calculates everything. Productivity, modules, bacons. It's the final input to output info.

>>723328903
It's the final value after all the crafting speeds and such. But to see it you do need to place a building and select a recipe. Maybe it's somewhere else too, but I gave up on trying to follow ALL the UI additions.

>>723328085
Yes I need ratios, if I say "ok I want 2 rockets per seconds", then I place how many machines I would need to get that result so it's easy to visualize the magnitude.

But if it's iron plates or copper, I just max out a couple of belts then forget about it.

>>723329030
>>723329060
Ok this makes it so simple

>>723328903
The ghost will not have the bonus from modules but the actual building with actual non-ghost modules will read the exact maximum output per second.

>>723328085
I try to use/fill an entire belt but no serious ratiomaxxing beyond that and oil setups.

>>723328085
I only ballpark the numbers on a particular product and then if I need more production I copy-paste it later.

>>723247114
I solved it by having just enough machines to ensure all the fruit is processed, with little downtime, combined with a switch to turn the agricultural towers off if for some reason there's no nutrients on the belt. I also have a power switch to cut off electricity to the non-essential parts of the factory if the steam in my storage tanks drops too low. Defenses include a wall of tesla turrets set to target everything, in front of a wall of rocket turrets set to target all stompers, and big strafers, with roboports and repair packs stored at regular intervals.

If for some reason, the factory DOES break, and there's no nutrients, I have ANOTHER power switch leading to a setup of assembly machines, for processing the yumako mash directly into nutrients, which I manipulate manually, and only once I diagnose why the factory died in the first place.

>>723248216
I hadn't considered using the rocket silo as a storage hub like that. Does that still work if the silo itself is frozen on aquilo?

>>723331510
Silos and hubs can't be frozen

>>723333094
You circled hubs and cargo bays. Silos can still be frozen.

I'm a neet for 15 years, whenever someone asks what I do for work I always say I work in a factory.

When I get asked what we do exactly I say something along of oh you know stone and steel furnaces, machinery, that sort of thing.

>>723335773
https://youtu.be/wj1Esms4cDo?si=quj-zWAB-PgjjPNu

>>723303981
Burner planet where electrical infetterence prevents using non-burner entitites.

>>723335773
just give up bro those fruits ain't worth it bro

>>723335773
FAT fuck

>>723335773
There needs to be a mod for this. Where enemies keep getting bigger and stronger the same way spawners do, but remove the cap.