Thread 723256128

>a mediocre Star Trek series gets a video game that is shaping up to be one of the best games ever
DS9 game never ever. It's unfair.

turns out most people love voyager. Even back then, vocal minorities online had zero sway.

sorry bro even Babby alone 5 was better space station show than Deep Suck #9 and a large soda

Same with Elite Force. Voyager was a good premise that wasn't done well on TV.

>>723257448
>needed nu-trek fuck-ups to shed the "worst in the IP" title
>"love"
That is like saying everyone who does refrain from shooting you on sight must want to have your children

>>723256128 (OP)
There's only one good character in the show and he is Neelix.

>>723258161
Kes when she was evil for that one show was the best. They should have made her evil to begin with. Such a waste like the entirety of the show

>>723257940
fake news. If you want to introduce someone to star trek, you show them voyager.

I bet you 2 bars of gold pressed latinum that if this does decent that a DS9 game is probably in the running.

>>723256128 (OP)
I didn't like any of the characters except Paris and Janeway. And don't call me racist because I liked the entire diverse DS9 crew.

>>723262249
No one likes Kim because we are all like Kim in real life.

>>723257708
>Same with Elite Force. Voyager was a good premise that wasn't done well on TV.

It was a messy show with some good episodes. It wasn't all bad. Elite Forces was an interesting hot take of a Stra Trek FPS.

>>723260958
I bet you 2000 self sealing stem bolts that this game is shit.
>>723258161
This
>>723257448
Seven of nine is the literal antithesis of "woke" but people who never watched the show probably see a woman captain and get mad.

>>723256128 (OP)
>DS9 game never ever.
Imagine missing out on Star Trek Tomb Raider kino.

>>723260958
I really doubt it, they probably don't want to touch DS9 in case they want to shit out a Star Trek: Sisko show if everything goes up in flames. Voyager has the benefit of being "complete".

>>723256128 (OP)
Is 7of9 in it and can I stop her from Akoocheemoyaing?

>>723263146
Thanks for Obongo

>>723262249
>>723260958
Voyager was consistently more popular than DS9

>>723263105
>>DS9 game never ever.
>Imagine missing out on Star Trek Tomb Raider kino.

What would a Deep Space Nine game be about, anyway? Micro managing DS9, while going on weird side adventures/ missions with the runabout?

>>723263353
>What would a Deep Space Nine game be about, anyway?
Nigger it exists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Deep_Space_Nine:_The_Fallen

>>723263146
Yes, and unknown on the latter. Probably.

>>723263597
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Deep_Space_Nine:_The_Fallen

https://youtu.be/ijiBFVwKwjM

>>723264416

That release date...

>>723263353
>Micro managing DS9, while going on weird side adventures/ missions with the runabout?
Yeah
It'd be a Tycoon game

Imagine enjoying Voyager when B5 exists

This game's success will entirely depend on mods
And fixing those performance issues

>>723256128 (OP)
Voyager is the only Star Trek series I ever watched so this is for me, personally. Sorry to the other Trek nerds.

>>723264792
Far more comparable to DS9, and you really do NOT want to know about the B5 Voyager equivalent The thief bitch was hot though

>>723263238
DS9 was a bad fit for syndication. TV stations would air episodes however the fuck they liked in random order which made a serialized show nonsensical. Both DS9 and B5 were pioneers in the long-form TV show storytelling, but they were years too early.

>>723264657
That would just be Startopia.

>>723264657
I'd like that, could like Startopia without the building part.

>>723256128 (OP)
>ds9
Babylon 5 is infinitely superior

>>723265264
>That would just be amazing.
Correct
>>723265301
I imagine there'd be some room changing, like what stores you want to allow on the promenade, building up your defenses, or changing storage bays into gardens for Keiko or something
Plenty of potential built into it

>>723265091
I'm more of a DS9fag, but we need a whole series about the fucking B5 space wizards.

>>723265481
Sounds pretty much like this Voyager game at the core, except probably less exploration and more trading and logistics.

>>723257940
enterprise is the worst in the ip, not voyager.
voyager is no dsp or tng but it's still not as bad as it could have gotten.
It's also still significantly better than pro-american bush propaganda shows like stargate.
not quite as good as farscape or firefly or andromeda or most other sci-fi tv.

>>723263238
They should totally own the salamander bit and somehow tie them into the Distant Origin episode. Like the salamanders made from snakeTom and snakeKate made somehow got sent back to 3 billion year earth and they evolved into the dinosaur people who then left earth.

Don't give the Star Trek franchise holders any money.

>>723265753
ds9*, it's so over. minor typo and my post is ruined.

>>723265727
There would still be plenty to explore: the Gamma Quadrant, the Badlands, the Denorios Belt.

>>723264614
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Fallen
Release date: September 11th...

>>723265708
That is pretty much what the few episodes I can recall were about, the baldy second from the left is a rogue Technomage.
Bad case of sound idea but campy execution.

>>723265727
That's part of why I think it'd be such a good follow up, yeah
You could have some Gamma Quadrant exploration but eventually you run into the Dominion and the game becomes more about politics and diplomacy with the occasional foray back through the wormhole or Maquis territory or wherever else

>>723257641
To this day I still think that all the B5 fans are trying to collectively gaslight the world, since there's no way that anyone could enjoy all the wooden acting, dull plotlines, and terrible CGI in that show.

Will the game have B'Elanna pitta?

>>723264416
>unreal engine

>>723258161
Who was the Neelix of DS9? Jake annoyed me at first but he had his moments in episodes. Espessially the one where he thinks a warzone would make for a great story and spends the entire episode ashamed of being a coward.

>>723266167
>Newfag thinks the Unreal engine of 2000 is the same as the Unreal engine of 2025

>>723266272
Maybe the Grand Nagus? I'm not sure there really is an equivalent, even guys like Rom turn out great

>>723264614
This is pretty good, actually. Suffers from "where the fuck do I go" a bit. Alternatively, I was retarded when I was ten.

>>723266167
UE1 is kino, fuck off.

What's the gameplay like? Is it like a management sim?

>>723263105
It's kind of mid, honestly.

>>723265091
>The thief bitch was hot though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze53sYbyN3s

On the subject of UE1-based games:
>fight your way through Rura Penthe
>walk on the outside of a space station
>talk to the Duras sisters
>kill people with a disc like the one from Predator 2

>>723266408
he's not really in the show enough to be that
I do like the episode where the prophets de-evolve him so he's no longer a space jew, was really funny

I hated how it was completely forgotten that half of the crew used to be terrorists. After the first couple of episodes everyone was assimilated.

>>723267247
Isn't that just due to each episode taking place an indeterminate amount of time from one another?

>>723266647
>>>723266167
>UE1 is kino, fuck off.

Unreal Engine 1 was a pretty good alternative to ID Tech 3 back in the day. Best features of UE1 was the ability to support different graphics API's (DX6, DX7, DX8.1, OpenGL) and its' ability to do modular music. Not a lot games that licensed the engine outside of Deus Ex, RUNE, a couple Star Trek games, and well technically Duke Nukem Forever,... which launched with a UE1 engine license, but the engine itself was heavily modified. The Voyage Elite Forces games use ID Tech 3.

>>723256128 (OP)
>TFW you will never play dukat with a harem of bajoran women

>>723263146
>will never suck your dick in public
Why even live

>>723267291
That would only become feasible once Kes is off the ship in ses4

>>723266272
>Who was the Neelix of DS9?
They didn't have one. The whole cast was great. There were definitely bad episodes here and there though. Like any time Sisko started bitching about much racism, or ace reporter Jake Sisko. Julian could be annoying at times too, but he grew to be endearing.

>>723266272
kai winn?

>>723267247
Nobody actually liked Cardies to begin with, so it didn't really matter.

I like every Lwaxana episode.

>>723267878
>Like any time Sisko started bitching about much racism
That only happened in one episode, plus another where he had visions where he was living in the 50s.

>>723256128 (OP)
>DS9 game
They have a fuck ton of game. They're just not good

Why does /v/ have the best Trek threads

>>723268220
Meh. She was fun, but the Troi/Crusher harpy moments that she caused with nearly every appearance made the episodes worse

>MR WORF, I GAVE YOU AN ORDER, FIRE THE FUCKING TORPEDOES! I WANT EVERY SINGLE MAQUIS MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD ON THAT PLANET DEAD! GLORY TO THE FEDERATION!
What did Captain Commander Benjamin Sisko meant by this?

>>723268503
>That only happened in one episode, plus another where he had visions where he was living in the 50s.
Multiple. There were two episodes in that 1950's shit, plus that stupid casino heist episode that he ruined.
>We can't have fun in a retro inspired holographic environment because muh racism
Fuck you Sisko, I'll be two doors down enjoying Vulcan Love Slave VI.

>>723268568
/TV/ is full of top many neurotically obsessed freaks who would rather gossip about an actresses nipples then talk about a show.
>>723268692
Eddington was probably on that planet and he was done chasing him.
>>723268698
1950s episodes are shit. It's like the 1930s episodes in the original trek.

>>723268692
>dump some poison gas in the atmosphere that will take hours to reach the surface, giving everyone enough time to pack up and leave
How could he Starfleet bros...?

>>723268568
/tv/ has several schizos that make the threads unusable

>>723268698
There was no race stuff the second time the 50s stuff happened, it was just him being locked in asylum. The casino heist one was the other one I was referring to, but yes that one sucked and was stupid.

>>723268879
>/TV/ is full of top many neurotically obsessed freaks who would rather gossip about an actresses nipples then talk about a show.
Reminder: 20 years of global politics were defined by Seven's tits.

>>723267878
DS9 needed Miles and Julian acting like "bruh Sports! BEER!" caricatures together to be as annoying as one Neelix

>>723269083
Or rather, they were defined by Seven NOT getting her tits out.

>>723269327
O'Brien and Bashir going from "I can't stand this guy" to "I just... like you a little bit more" was peak, in all its forms

>>723269491
Not sure what you mean. Jeri Ryan's coom brained ex-husband Senator Jack Ryan forced her to participate in sex acts in some weird BDSM club, which led to their divorce and his disgraceful exit from office. Obama took his vacant seat, and from there quickly ascended to the presidency. Trump's success in American politics was largely a result of backlash to the Obama administration. Therefore, Seven's boobs defined twenty years of global politics. Also likely reshaped human history. The mammaries of the millennium.

>>723269794
>forced her to participate in sex acts in some weird BDSM club
Where are leaks when you need them the most?

>>723269887
It happened before smart phones really existed, so there weren't a thousand cameras around.

>>723269472
Average GDQ runner.

>>723263112
>shit out a Star Trek: Sisko
I think Avery Brooks would probably tell them to fuck off

>>723270136
He seems like the sort of dude who is always down for a paycheck.

>>723256128 (OP)
can we save Tuvix?

Were are the Janeway lewds?

>>723270376
god I hope not

>>723270297
He acted like a weirdo in that The Captains documentary Shatner did

>>723269794
That's interesting and all but without pics I don't care that much

>>723256128 (OP)
>published by the Gollum devs

>>723257448
>turns out most people love voyager
Nah, it had some dogshit ratings that wasn't allowed to fail because it was a flagship program of UPN.
And as someone who is currently in the middle of a voyager re-watch, it was a show that had an interesting premise that was jettisoned almost immediately to turn into Diet TNG.

>>723270882
>He acted like a weirdo
He was never exactly a huge actor, and I think he has been teaching music for years, he's just transformed into an old black jazz-man.

>>723270882
He was clearly stoned.

>>723256128 (OP)
It inadvertently doomed the country in the same way Casablanca did

>>723270376
>can we save Tuvix?

>>723268698
I don't mind era appropriate actors, plus the actor who plays Jake says NIGGERS in such a nice way that I can't be mad.
The casino stuff was kinda retarded but even then the end result of the whole thing was his wife telling him to get the fuck over it and help his "friend" instead. You wouldn't see that shit in modern TV, ever.

>>723270882
He's definitely a weird hoity toity artist, I was sad to learn he wasn't just a normal guy. It's weird that playing characters who act normal IS the act.

>>723271498
>clicks perform the separation
Janeway, that cunt.

>>723257940
Voyager is great, not sure where it gets "worst in the IP" from

>>723269794
>Jeri Ryan's coom brained ex-husband Senator Jack Ryan forced her to participate in sex acts in some weird BDSM club
Qrd?

>>723270136
Nothing is stopping them from recasting him.
Then again I'm more afraid of the quality of a modern ferengi face mask, that shit will probably just look fucking awful. Or, hell, fucking commieferengi at all.

>>723271761
>not sure where it gets "worst in the IP" from
it gets it from the era where it absolutely was
sure it compares favorably to shit like Discovery but when your competition is TNG or DS9 then yeah no shit it was considered the worst in the franchise for a time

>>723271498
Where's the choice to trade away transporter technology for foot massages and coffee?

>>723271761
Worst as in least good, it's not like it's fucking awful or anything

>>723260610
Voyager needs the context of the Marquis to be understood properly, so it's best enjoyed after DS9.

what genre is this game? Is it like base management stuff or what?

>>723256128 (OP)
I nearly got Neelix killed in the first mission he was available because he couldn't charm his way out of the situation. I've never played a Star Trek game despite loving the franchise (that ended in 2005) but I will be buying this as I enjoyed the demo

>>723266089
>terrible cgi
this was your only correct point

>>723269030
My headcannon is that Ben Sisko, enlightened 24th century man, living in an era where racism hasn't been a problem for several hundred years. When lincoln apologizes for calling uhura a nigger, she's confused about why she's supposed to be offended.
But sisko had his consciousness inserted into the life of a black guy in post-war new york.
For an innocent mind being put in that situation and having a lifetime of memories of it implanted into his head could absolutely make him a little bit sensitive about it.
And Brooks' objection isn't out of line, trek can be incredibly accepting and aspirational, but sanitizing the past like that can be counter productive.

>>723271903
XCOM base management + simple map exploration + resolve events in a "storybook" style like in some modern CRPGs where you pick your crew and shit and get different outcomes based on the stats
So far it's just whatever and I guess it will mostly get used as a vehicle to make more /v/trek threads.

>>723271860
TNG has more bad episodes than Voyager though. The only Voyager episodes which are terrible are the Warp 10 one and the boring millennium one.
And the one where Kes returns actually.

>>723272180
NTA but TNG has a lot of really bad episodes. It also has a good number of really good episodes.

I don't know why I always click on star trek threads when my only experience with the franchise is a handful of episodes of TNG and watching voyager with my dad after school whenever mXc wasn't on spike TV

>>723272030
I don't think the CG itself was "bad" but it had some bad compositing that made it look like an FMV on a 1990's television set piped through an analog transmission across copper coaxial cable.
Watching the remaster that came out relatively recently, its not terrible CG, and they do their best to use it sparingly or as backdrops.
The models are fine, sometimes they're great even (the station, some of the ships), what shows its age are the low-res textures.

>>723272412
It doesn't sound like BDSM, more like those weird swingers clubs or whatever orgies the elite do behind doors.

>>723272691
>Jeri Ryan described one as "a bizarre club with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging from the ceiling."

>>723272758
Lmao
Honestly the kind of people who go to those clubs are fucked in the head. The BDSM "community" is as toxic as it gets.

>>723256128 (OP)
>DS9 game never ever

There was a bad platformer on the Sega Genesis.

But no Quark bar management sim.

>>723256128 (OP)
After ENT and STD and PICAIDS and CANCER and PICKLE CADETS
Yes, VOY looks like a god damn masterpiece. Also best trek game is either bridge commander or elite force 2. Even normies can appreciate EF2

>>723268698
On random occasions I will inform my cat that "IT MIGHT BE FUN FOR ME AND YOU BUT ITS NO FUN FOR THE BEEEEEEEETLES!" in a high pitched nasal annoying voice.
I

>>723272891
Enterprise was better than Voyager.

>>723272891
t. faith and/or heartless

>>723272506
it's an old and storied franchise with a lot to talk about and a lot of crazy shit under the hood.

>But no Quark bar management sim.
You will never get to play a WEG as young fed boy walking out of post-scarcity society with the goal of stacking up enough latinum for your own uncensored holodeck

>>723272176
ok but why have holograms mine with pickaxes?

>>723273072
S4 maybe
S1-2 fuck off it was so bad paramount fired the entire writing team and just dropped the temporal snore plot. copium huffers i swear.

voyager disappointed me
really good premise and then they completely waste it for the most part

compared to nu-trek it's a masterpiece tho

>>723263238
Voy was pushed hard by UPN and was also available to everybody since UPN didn't require cable. DS9 wasn't advertised anywhere near as hard and was stuck on syndication.

>>723272180
>>723272435
This was maybe my main problem with Voy
Mostly it just flatly went on and on with very few highlights like Borg, 8472 Warhip voyager or Year of Hell.
Probably because too many ideas, good or bad, were always used in TNG

>>723273072
Agreed, it might been worse written but was still more enjoyable to watch

>>723272180
>TNG has more bad episodes than Voyager though. The only Voyager episodes which are terrible are the Warp 10 one and the boring millennium one.
Absolutely not. What fuck? After S2 of TNG you'd be hard pressed to find a bad episode. Might have 2-3 in those 5 seasons. VOY had a multiple retarded episodes per season.

>>723274314
There are some part of it that definitely become a drag.
It was supposed to be carried by the the whole "alone away from home" setting and thw characters, but most of them are not that interesting.

>>723256128 (OP)
Odo is fucking dead, bro

>>723273778
Imagine if we got an actual Year of Hell season instead of just a two parter.
There's other weird episodes like where they get split except their antimatter and it's the ship that beat to hell and lost the Kidman baby and Harry Kim that go to survive.
Or the silver blood duplicate ship that died because the experimental drive they tried fucked with their biology. (It doesn't make sense that they'd completely forget what they were but whatever, it's definitely an interesting bottle episode.)

Voyager Episode 173: Harry final gets promoted

It's funny compared to NuTrek, Voyager is a masterpiece. I always liked it for cheesy 90s adventure goodness. Some episodes are really fun and good among the entire franchise.

I like Voyager and I will get this game

>>723256128 (OP)
>Medicore
VOY is hot, unsavable garbage.
Thank goodness we got ENT kino after it.

>>723275169
that's the worst part about modern media.
it's not that it's just bad, but it's worse than bad media from thirty years ago written by scab writers and execs during writer strikes

>>723275169
nuTrek was made by people who have nothing but contempt for what Star Trek was about. For all their faults at least Berman and Braga liked Star Trek for what it was.

As someone with a vague understanding of TOS and TNG, but does NOT want to watch them (at least right now) out of curiosity for the lesser series, should I watch DS9 or Voyager first
And what is Enterprise because I feel like no one ever talks about that one

It also got an alright rail shooter for the arcade

>>723275290
>he didnt like the WWE episode
There is nothing in ENT that even comes close to it. No one at all like early season ENT. Its worse than SG:U

>>723256128 (OP)
If you want to play Voyager, just make a run to Saggitarius A with the fuel rats in Elite: Dangerous. It may not be as flashy granted. It's the ST aesthetic that counts.

>>723275360
Voyager has followup elements to DS9 so watch DS9 first. Enterprise for me had a rough start, but gets really good in the final seasons. It's meant to be a prequel series, but for stupid reasons they shied away from that for the longest time until the very end where they went crazy with it.

>>723275360
Both DS9 and Voyager expect you to have watched TNG as TNG is the show that establishes the technology and politics of the 24th century. It's also one of the greatest TV shows ever produced so if you are interested in that era of Trek you really should just start with TNG. If you're that worried about the early seasons you could watch Encounter at Farpoint in S1. Measure of a Man and Q Who in S2, and then just start on S3.

>>723275360
Just watch them in release order you fucking nigger, some TNG characters become main characters in DS9. VOY doesn't do those cameos that often but they happen every once in a blue moon. TOS is the only thing that you can conceivably keep for later. It also depends on how much you can enjoy 60s TV.
As for ENT, it depends on how much faith of the heart you have. It's a prequel to the whole franchise. I personally really like it but others don't. You won't see character cameos from the other shows.

>>723275598
>>723275608
Eh I was just worried that watching the best ones first would make it hard to watch the other ones

>>723275608
>You won't see character cameos from the other shows.
Until the finale is a bizarre, ridiculous callback to a TNG episode

>>723275006
>Imagine if we got an actual Year of Hell season instead of just a two parter.
Season 3 of enterprise.

>>723275608
>faith of the heart
I'll never be able to hear this song without thinking about the fucking krystal vore video one of you assholes posted like four years ago

>>723275680
>would make it hard to watch the other ones
It's like going from a 9 to a 8.5 to an 8 (depending on who you ask), it's not like it actually goes to shit or anything. Well, until you get to anything released past the 00s, but you can safely ignore all of it

>>723275360
DS9 started airing around TNG's fourth season
IIRC Voyager also started airing around DS9's third or fourth season.
You could just watch the episodes in airdate order and be fine

>>723275169
nu-trek is made by people who despise star trek
never been more obvious than that Starfleet Academy slop they just released a trailer for, no purpose to that shit other than trying to make people mad. Hateful miserable people

>>723274720
For trying to be carried by characters they had very little character development going on.
Paris calmed down right from the get-go so much that any time he tried to act as rebellious badboy again it looked like an early bout of midlife crisis. Belanna and Seven simply smoothed down their worst bitchy edges a bit. The Doctor was really the only developing crew-member on the ship.
DS9 had far more character development imo.

DS9 >= TNG >= TOS > ENT > VOY

>>723275776
just pretend that episode doesn't exist
it was a hastily thrown together mess when the show got shitcanned

>>723256128 (OP)
I tried the demo for the new Voyager game, but it keeps on crashing on the ship screen. What little I played was fun, but the stability and optimisation was complete garbage.

>>723276028
>Paris calmed down right from the get-go so much
When I was a kid catching random episodes of Voyager on TV I genuinely thought Paris was meant to be the goody-two-shoes model officer type, that's how much they deleted his entire character.
From what I understand, pretty much everything from Voyager's pre-production bible was forgotten after the pilot, but they didn't really replace it with anything. They just had nothing.

>>723275360
TNG and DS9 were the absolute peak of Star Trek. Watch DS9 first. Voyager and Enterprise are passable. Enterprise is set a hundred years before the original Star Trek and is just the adventures of the first crew of the Enterprise.

>>723275360
TNG is a pretty essential primer to both, just lookup an essential viewing guide. This one is for ds9.

>>723276007
Jesus Christ nigger you actually made me watch that thing.
My personal highlight is this, what the fuck is it supposed to be, a fat female Jem-Hadar, yelling LET'S GO PEOPLE SHOW ME YOU'RE WORTHY OF YOUR UNIFORM at a bunch of people in a physical training course. Why is this thing so fucking fat? How can you fucking POSSIBLY be fat in Trek?

>>723276345
And found the one for TNG.
VOY next.

>watch Voy
>kind of not really like it
>yet somehow get really pulled into Paris's and B'elanna's relationship
What the fuck's up with that? Relationships in Star Trek are usually terrible and actively make the show worse.

>>723276007
I don't mind lower decks as far as nu trek goes but yes

>>723276582
>mfw T'Pol's and Trip's relationship

>>723276529
>Skin of evil
I will never not find that episode funny
lmaoing at Tasha

>>723260078
Having Kes be secretly evil and the audience would know but the main cast wouldn't would have been incredibly interesting and suspenseful. But that kind of storyline would only have fit for DS9, not voyager which wanted to be the new TNG.

>>723276320
>STO's Iconian storyline has the races of the Alpha Quadrant so desperate to win against the otherwise unstoppable Iconian armada and break out the Annorax to go mess with time
>think they've found an even so insignificant it will be alright to change, accidentally cause the Romulan Empire to be assimilated by the Borg in TNG era, and change it all back to how it was, more or less
>this makes the player character inadvertently responsible for wiping out the Sphere Builder species and starting the events of ENT

>>723260078
Don't look up what happened to the actress

>>723276320
Would he have succeeded with this event if it weren't for Voyager's time shields fucking their calculations?

>>723276007
I think you're giving Kurtzman too much credit; he doesn't even know what a Star Trek is or what the appeal is, yet Paramount has given him the keys for damn near a decade now. It's like if that fag who acted as Voyager's Native American advisor was in charge of administering a reservation.

>>723276664
That one was like watching a train-wreak in cute.
Everybody KNEW it had to become a horrible mess at some point because no way the purists would have allowed to retcon that Spock was the first human/vulcan hybrid to be born

>>723276529
Looks like the Voyager one is a joke.
Maybe just sort by imdb ratings, or don't. Even bad episodes are noteworthy.

>>723277008
forgot pic

>>723276917
Maybe, but he did seem a bit on the crazy side. He pretty much got what he wanted but kept going because it wasn't a 100%. Dude really wanted that platinum trophy.

>>723272176
If holograms can do mining, why can't they just hologram in some mining robots with big dick mining tools?
Actually, why can't they just forget the photons and do the mining with a cascade of forcefields?

>>723276917
What he wanted was impossible

>>723277215
The old EMH Mark I was retired from service but they still felt the need to do something with it. So they sent them off to the mines.

>>723277139
He never got what he wanted until Voyager destroyed the time ship itself and that reset actually everything.
He said he wanted to restore the Krenim empire, what he actually wanted was his wife and daughter back.
And of course the dramatic irony: he has no memory of all that so he's working on the time ship again. But maybe this time his family can distract him from it.

>>723276770
>what was once an absurdly cartoonish over-the-top villain would not be an out of place regular 4chan poster now

>>723277215
They had the EMH already, it was flexible enough to do the work and it could even use existing tools to do it. They'd have to do years, maybe decades, of work to make a purpose-specific miner hologram.
The idea of holograms is kind of novel but it really gets out of hand if you think about too much. By the 25th century your ships would probably be 98% holographic (not necessarily the crew but for sure at least terminals and furniture) and you'd only have physical terminals and hardware as a failsafe backup. Terminals are already basically 100% configurable but you have to be there standing at it.
There was also that TNG episode with the exocomps that replicated tools as needed, but they had to be swept under the rug because they were sapient.

>>723277272
and then the big twist is that the actual space jews on the show are the Bajorans

>>723266089
londo and g'kar were kino performances

>>723277661
>>723277215
The exocomp episode was also about them trying to make a particle fountain to mine planets directly from orbit and the abject failure of the technology

A DS9 game exists, Harbinger.

>>723256128 (OP)
Voyager is comfy. Not as comfy as DS9, but still comfy.

>>723277661
>humanity will never explore the stars because they would only be a special needs liability to our automated exploration ships
Just get in the cryotube and wait for the android/AI to wake you at your new home, meatbag

Thanfully Babylon 5, the superior 90s sci-fi show, already got a video game adaptation.

>>723271701
Tuvix was annoying and it sucks but two people have greater need than one annoying new person

>>723263185
Wait what's with the 7ofNEIN gave us Obongo?

>>723278130
read the thread, spoonjunkie
>>723272412
>>723269794

>>723277959
I want to watch it but who has it?

>>723269794
Whoever else would have filled that seat would have been used as a pawn instead of Obama, don't be stupid. And Trump only got elected because most people just wanted to see how badly he'd fuck up, you'd have to be especially retarded if you never caught on to how insincere this site was about him back in 2016.

Either way Trump is literally one foot in the grave, and will never have a third term. Trump being an idiot and making it obvious how broke and corrupt everything is from the top down (even if it was like that before) means people aren't going to be voting along party lines in the future lmao.

>>723278267
Just pirate it like a normal person

>>723277948
Star Trek is a constant struggle to keep something like The Culture from devouring the Federation's, culture. Especially as it encroaches on the same technology.

>>723263353
I think the ideal DS9 game is a Tell Tale (pre-shit) mystery title taking place on the station. Odo or someone taking on the role as a detective and investigating some political scheme with the Cardassians.

>>723276432
I take it the people making this have no clue what the Jem'Hadar are and think they're "like Klingon's or something"

>>723278267
The new restoration from a couple of years back, which looks miraculous next to the DVDs which were dogshit even back at the time they released, was on Apple and Amazon on release but it's out on blu-ray now so I'm sure there's a rip floating around somewhere. Just make sure to track down The Gathering somewhere first; it's the pilot movie but wasn't restored as part of the new release despite being essential viewing before going into season 1. None of the other movies were included either but they're all standalone stories that don't impact the show's plot, and only one of them is any good anyway.

>>723276432
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS HOLY SHIT NO

>>723266967
>space jew
Neuronal activation, anon

>>723278625
thanks for that

>>723265091
is this worth a watch? I've seen most of the B5 movies and absolutely loved the show but never got around to Crusade

>>723276432
Who is watching these shows? How are they still being made? Didn't the streaming platform shut down/merge/reboot itself like 3 times already?

>>723272097
>but sanitizing the past like that can be counter productive.
Only tangibly related, but one of the things I like about SNW is that it doesn't waffle around the fact the foundations of the setting are rooted in the wake of the Third World War where people solved the world's problems by killing a bunch of other people standing in the way of progress... And that's condemned as a fail-state for everyone involved.
Maybe it's a bit of accidental pathos, but it felt like the time-travel episodes were challenging the audience of the idea that Star Trek's back story was the only way to get to Star Trek's premise, in a way less in line with braindead nu-Trek and closer to an earlier TNG episode.

>>723272412
His actions of being a coome brain allowed Obama to become President.

>>723278815
Imagine season 1 of Babylon 5 but it gets cancelled after Signs & Portents. It's all world building and character set up then gets canned right when they have the episode that would have gotten the main plot moving. Might have been good had it got to run but as it stands there's just nothing there.

>>723277773
Between the Bajorans, Ferangi, and Maquis, there was a bunch of Jewish/Palestinian subtext on DS9.

>>723256128 (OP)
fuck you voyager is my favorite

>>723263238
The thing with the writers forgetting that Lt. Carey never died, only using him in flashbacks/time travel/alternate universe episodes, then realizing he was still canonically alive and killing him off right before the finale will never not be hilarious.

>>723278815
They didn't even finish the first season. It was campy as fuck and you really NEED to like B5 as a setting to endure.
Still better than the Legend of Rangers movie

>>723263238
didn't the worm on the planet they were stranded on eat carey and his skeleton was later found by the dinosaur earthlings?

>>723278918
This shit was a recipe for what's to come. People just assumed it would happen exactly as is and not with white people getting exterminated bit by bit until humanity dies instead of going to space. One world government will be a thing, one world galaxy will not.

>>723277959
And soon there will be another great scifi game like mass-effect fpr another awesome scifi series

>>723279530
I feel like you don't get enough pushback from the people in your life so here: shut the fuck up, nobody wants to hear your asinine white genocide horseshit. You are not a victim.

>>723278918
It really really doesn't help that they use clip from Jan6 instead of the summer of love to set the example of it.

>>723279940
I feel like you don't get enough pushback from the people in your life. Shut the fuck up, move back to where you come from and stop interfering in my people's existence. We never did slavery and colonialism so I don't owe you shit.

>>723279940
Why are trek threads always filled with massive faggots like you?

>>723269794
>Jeri Ryan's coom brained ex-husband Senator Jack Ryan forced her to participate in sex acts in some weird BDSM club
Based

>>723280278
As time goes on, trannies infest everywhere. We can only hope they 51% eventually.

>>723279940
Never in history had there been an open borders nation because that does away with the concept of a nation.

>>723280453
>because that does away with the nation.
Fixed