Thread 723267890

Hi.
I'm here to ruin everything.

>>723267890 (OP)
>how do we make a balanced hydra/tiamat?
>

this scene was ridiculous

>>723267890 (OP)
Used goods

>>723267890 (OP)
Overrated exclusive class. Actually garbage even if you maximize it.

>>723267890 (OP)
Pretty nice that the re-release has people talking about this game again

Is she literally the worst female character in the game? I know Agrias is the most popular...

>brown
>female prude
>weak
yawn

Did they make Meliadoul's knight skills work like WotL where they can still hit monsters or unequipped humans?

>>723267890 (OP)
Which of the two between her and her brother are better?

>>723267890 (OP)
Her mantras can do some really good damage.

>>723271831
He requires low faith for him and his foe to deal max damage, while she just does good damage regardless.

chuddy gamers never recovered from this quote

>>723271816
Yes but they do pitiful damage when you don't break shit now

>>723271959
fuck you

>>723271981
RIP, back to being useless Meliadoul

>>723271685
Yes. She is unironically worse than most generics, you cant even send her on bar missions to catch her up, she is actual gutter trash

>>723271959
Ahhh

>>723271959
In character, at least

>>723272074
First thing I mod if tools develop is renaming the skills back and buffing them vs unarmed foes.

>>723267890 (OP)
You mean be completely forgotten.
Why was she and her brother even in the game?

>>723272334
another brother-sister pair and they do use them to establish that the zodiac stones aren't inherently evil

>>723271959
Kys

>>723270358
Is there any lore in the game that could explain this? Does Orator allow you to control monsters and make them talk, then allow you to explode them on command?

>>723271959
many won't realize this but this line was actually in the game

>>723272541
Maybe you can charm someone, then turn them into a frog and give them a tiny bomb

>Folmarv gave Meliadoul and Isilud stones so they could become Lucavi
>But they also act like goody two-shoes moralfags, not really the type of power-hungry people needed to become possessed, and Meliadoul is genuinely shocked her dad is essentially a demon
Getting conflicting ideas here, was Folmarv not always a total dickhead?

>>723271959
Fuck you I hope you die with aida

>>723271959
i am coming to your house

Ramza is such an homosexual for not impregnating Rapha.

Ramza is such an homosexual for not impregnating Alma.

Ramza is such an homosexual for not impregnating Delita.

>>723273196
When he gave his kids the stones he was already possessed. They were passed around to temple knights who would presumably keep the stones secret, they were also sent into combat and if a fight goes really badly that is one of the triggers to summon a zodiac demon.

Other than the kids being convenient potential hosts he doesn't care about them and states as much.

>>723273196
Elmdore was supposedly a decent guy but he got possessed after getting no scoped by a random archer.

>>723271959
man

Ramza is such an homosexual for not impregnating Ramza.

>>723271959
Who's falling for this.
(I love my mom though)

Are the two sequels any fun

>>723274228
I never figured out a fun way to play them. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist though and there are massively unfun ways to play FFT

>>723274228
dunno. the art style and stupid character designs always put me off playing them.

>>723271959
screamer do not open

>>723274228
Pretty solid handheld games

>>723267890 (OP)
>on the roof
>tanks 300 points of unblockable damage in first 2 turns
>loses fight
th-thanks

>>723271959
i knew what it was and i still clicked it like a fool

Is there a way to delevel? Ramza is nearly level 40, and I'm pretty early in chapter 2.

>>723275213
I thought it was gonna be that meme line "fines are laws only for the poor"

>>723275267
How in the fuck I was about 40 in the endgame

>>723271959
powerful

>>723275267
yes

>>723271959
YOU SPEAK IN NOTHINGS

>>723275345
I wanted abilities. So, I would change jobs and spam Tailwind. 10xp adds up fast.
>>723275438
where and how?

>>723275469
Mindflayer's hidden beastmaster move
Degenerator trap tiles like in Zeklaus Desert

>>723271959
n

>>723275601
Thanks. I think I'll go down to level 25.

>>723267890 (OP)
In theory, can she and her brother do the highest amount of damage in the game assuming you had peak RNG and all hits landed on the same enemy?

>>723275469
Well if you wanna grind without leveling just get a unit with low level and wack them with the weakest attacks you have, then keep healing them. You get JP like always but almost no exp

>>723275731
Oh, cool. I did not know that. Thank you.

>>723267890 (OP)
>ruin
I see what you did there.

>>723267890 (OP)
rate my team
>sam/squire
>mime1
>bard/calc
>mime2
>dance/white

>>723271959
Got me

>>723275713
probably not, their skills have a really low base power and each hit is going to be around 250 - 350 average malak will be worse since he specifically requires his target to have low faith, hydra's triple flame/thunder almost certainly beats them from 999 each hit

What are the most interesting monster units to use? Not necessarily the best, but the ones that have weirder abilities

>>723275731
>>723275823
You get 1 exp if the target is 10 levels below you more specifically. Adding +1 Exp for every level less than 10.

>>723276473
Morbols

>>723276473
Great Malboros

>>723276513
good to know

>>723275690
Go down lower
Change the characters to Bard (male) or Dancer (female)
If you dont have those, Chemist is a good enough pick

>>723271959
I'm compelled to reply to this post.

>>723278929
I don't have bard or dancer yet. How low should I go, you think?

>>723280451
I know it's not obvious to you now, but you're replying to a schizo.

Saw this linked in another thread
https://youtu.be/aKtv9_IJlMU?si=7TBXplW2Ed5Xtwu1&t=320
It feels like a weird fever dream seeing Mustadio and Hashmal actually talk shit to each other after so many years normalizing that most of the cast has little dialogue past their mandatory story beats

>>723280583
Oh... Alrighty then.

>>723271959
You're a fucking weasel

>>723271959
Weegraff would never say this

>>723276473
Behemots for Giga Flare

Gameplay-wise, what exactly is the point of Alicia. Lavian, and Ladd? They're just generics that always have predetermined names, stats, and zodiac signs, but I don't know what they're really meant to "do" per se

>>723281216
>he doesn't know

>>723281216
Nothing. They gave them a secret purpose in wotl but that's gone.

>>723281216
>what exactly is the point of Alicia. Lavian, and Ladd?
You kick them out of your party

>>723271959
there's not enough FFT rule34. god bless blackrabbits

>>723271959
we ain't doin all that now

>>723281216
You send them on errands to discover lore and treasure.

>>723280583
k, so I just googled and >>723278929 was right about what jobs to use.

>>723271959
Fuck off

>>723281216
alicia and lavian have more physical attack than most basic females due to having 10+ levels as a knight

all three of them have unique dialogue if you examine them

>>723281454
That wasn't the point.

>>723271959
fuck you wiegraf

>>723281515
Then I don't know the point

>>723281592
It's ok. Have fun and play how you want.

>>723274228
Honestly? The change in art style and the story being less political and more about kids on adventure is the worst part about them. The actual gameplay is a solid 10/10 that is easily as good as Tactics itself.
>More classes, segmented by race so you have more controlled combinations but leads to less generic 'best' options
>Equipment is varied and more interesting than tactics
>Less focus on unique classes, generics are much better
>Class skills and mechanics are tons of fun
>Boat load of content and battles
If you can get used to the law system basically adding extra challenge onto your gameplay then the games have a shocking amount of depth and are fun to play. I'd put them on the same tier as Tactics, story aside.

How am I supposed to enjoy all the unique characters with special classes AND the generic jobs with only 4 selectable character slots? It’s brutal. I get the special summoner siblings and have to ignore them. I’m gonna get a robot I have to ignore. At some point I’m gonna have to drop Agrias for the sword saint because I hear he’s busted and cool. I miss FE where you could bring like, a dozen anime girls with you to every mission.

>>723281730
Alright.

I love how they gave him more background and dialogue.

>>723267890 (OP)
STOP WALKING HEADFIRST INTO ULTIMA YOU DUMB SHITTER REEEEEEEEEE

>>723282305
"Lol" said Rapha.
"Lmao"

>>723282659
If you can't handle her at her worst you don't deserve her at her best.
*misses mantra 9 times*

>>723281216
>Alicia. Lavian
I wish I could've said Tynar Rouge...

>>723274228
less fun but still good.
TA has a story /v/ argues about to this day

>>723274228
do you like grinding out powerful units in FFT
the advance games are way more about that and let you do more cool shit than the first game, along with more stuff to actually use all your units for

>>723275267
kek what did you do bro, I'm in ch2 and just got ramza to being a ninja at lv19

>>723284023
It's not really an argument when one side has been quantifiably proven to be correct

>>723274228
What everyone else said, but just know that speed is even more busted in FFTA/2 and their way of presenting challenge is essentially giving free turns to enemies. That said, those are really optional fights. It's a shame, none of the FFT titles manage to be the total best parts of each. When I was a wee lad I loved FFT the most, but old man me thinks Tactics Ogre is straight up the better game... and even it is horribly flawed. Yet they remain the peak of the genre.

>>723274228
Tactics Advance 1 I like a TON
Tactics Advance 2 is weirdly slow but has the most content, main story is stupid on purpose to avoid the controversy of TA1 but side stories are good

>>723284245
get back in the wheelchair.

>>723267890 (OP)
I'm so jealous of Barinten

>>723271959
Kill yourself

>>723271959
.

>>723271959
I'll kill your sister again fuck you

>>723267890 (OP)
Look, her adopted father raped her and her brother slapped the shit out of her and ignored it. I think she deserves a little grace.

>>723271516
Rafa's backstory is like one of those loli x ugly bastard doujins. Her and her brother orphaned by this tubby bastard from a young age, he takes them in and raises them, molests the shit out of the girl while the boy knows and is powerless to do anything, all the way up to the current day in the game. She doesn't even get revenge, the Grand Duke got killed by demon assassins

>>723280591
Yeah I'm kind of torn on the new dialogue. My reactions range from active dislike to "huh, that's kind of neat." I think the Mustadio and Alma exchange was a nice little moment. But on the whole I miss a few scenes from War of the Lions. I think they did their job a lot better.

>>723283072
Good. She can leave for all I care.

>recruit a pig and blue dragon in the 3rd fight of the Reis gauntlet in the mines
>do donuts around the planet completing errands
>all the eggs are just base pigs and more blue dragons
REEEE GIMME A RED DRAGON ALREADY I WANT MUH SPEAR

>>723284796
Did you get the gun? It's pretty rare

>>723284209
I didn't like thief or archer, so I mastered them so I'd never have to play them again, and then I got teleport on Ramza and 4 generics. Teleport is kinda ass tho.

>>723284710
on the other hand the way they just toss him off the roof is pretty hilarious

>>723284873
yeah I stole the shit outta that gun

>>723284978
YEET

>>723271959
kill yourself

>>723284785
>But on the whole I miss a few scenes from War of the Lions.
For me, it's this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V38sXweVnKY

>>723285120
>Magicks

>>723285313
what was it originally?

>>723271959
end thyself

>>723285581
White/Black Magic. And they were called Priests and Wizards instead. That was way cooler if we're being honest.

>>723285701
soulless

>>723285701
naw fuck that black mage/white mage is a FF staple

>>723275954
god bless song/dance spam into full buff/full debuff

>>723281216
arent they required for the agrias engineer event?

>>723281512
How do you examine them on the PlayStation version? I pressed select and looked at all their stats but there's no quote anywhere.

>>723286590
Should be on the name

>>723271959
my favorite line in the game.

>>723274228
>oh you used a spell or weapon type for this particular battle I just decided is forbidden right now?
>ten years in the iso cubes

>>723274228
The advanced titles are not sequels and you should play them because they are fun. If you play them to get a continuation of FFT you will be what most of the people who wrote the games off a launch were like. Squenix is so retarded I don't get how they thought they could slap a new world on an old title without the fans revolting over it.

>>723281858
Very good post. I'm in agreement. I somehow don't remember A2 quite as fondly, though. Too many bells and whistles, I think.

>>723287746
>Squenix is so retarded I don't get how they thought they could slap a new world on an old title
Yeah it's not like they had been doing so for every Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest sequel or anything...

>>723288005
The difference is most of those games don't have you a sense of massive tonal whiplash with the portrayal of the setting and story. We went from gritty a medieval drama to fucking Chronicles of Narnia.

FFTA fans kind of remind me of Chrono Cross fans in that they tend to be people who played those games first and went back to their better-known predecessors long after the fact.

>>723288005
The difference is most of those games don't give you a sense of massive tonal whiplash with the portrayal of the setting and story. We went from a gritty medieval drama to fucking Chronicles of Narnia.

FFTA fans kind of remind me of Chrono Cross fans in that they tend to be people who played those games first and went back to their better-known predecessors long after the fact.

>>723287746
They're still set in Ivalice. So is Final Fantasy 12. The major difference is tone. But that's to be expected when you're on GBA, not PlayStation anymore. I played FFT first and got FFTA at launch, with no expectation at all that it would be a direct sequel to the original. Just that it would be another Tactics game.
The Advance titles are still fun, like you said.

>>723288553
The advance titles are a fantasy version of Ivalice tho too, they aren't the real Ivalice. They are a kids version of it. Kind of the whole premise of the plot.

I can’t tell if Celia and Lettie were people that used to be human before possession or if they were always demons shapeshifting as humans (in which case I’m not sure why they’re unique like that)

>>723288663
>it was all just a dream!
Another thing it has in common with Chrono Cross, lol.

>>723288663
then how is Luso in wotl

i couldn't be arsed to drag out the fight any longer but my autism demands i get 99 of them.

>>723289162
Sorry wotl is no longer anything we need concern about since the new release.

>>723289357
I like the mental image of these rogue ninjas carting a giant stockpile of these legendary swords but they’re such meatheads that their best strategy is to just chuck them at the enemy

i cant seem to get the super monster battle on balias tor

>>723288467
By the time Tactics Advance came out FF had been medieval, it had been sci-fi, it had been steampunk, you had gone to space more than once, and they even released a fucking MMO in the main numbered series. The protagonists all have different personalities, the stories are different, the settings are different, and battle mechanics are different. Square rarely ever makes [Game] 2. In the case of Tactics Advance and Chrono Cross it's not even called [Game] 2.
>they tend to be people who played those games first
Irrelevant. I prefer the originals, but the discussion is about whether it's reasonable for Advance and Cross to have different settings and the answer is obviously yes, since that's what Square does every single time.

>>723289357
>>723289736

>>723267890 (OP)
Like the Archduke ruined you, perhaps

I want to play FFTA what's the best way? could I just emulate on my phone or what

>>723290638
yes. do it. unlike FFT there aren't multiple versions to choose from.

>>723271959
No u

I have no idea what to do with Marach now that Dark Knight isnt here

>>723267890 (OP)
I just make her a Treasure Hunter, knock her bravery down a few more notches and she’s got a decent niche

This is the ideal powerleveling strat, you may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

>>723292075
But why? The stats are redundant. I just powerlevel Ramza only, and that's mostly because I like to see big number.

>>723292383
It is redundant, I just wanted to see bigger numbers and level 99 on everyone, that's all.
Now deleveling people to 1 and leveling them back to 99 multiple times on specific jobs to fine tune their stat growths, that's where i draw the line. If i ever cared that much i would look for a way to mod perfect stats into the game instead because that's just way too much effort.

>>723292560
I'll admit I deleveled Ramza a few times when he reached level 20 since that's the "efficient" way to do it. Or so I'm told. But now I'll probably just make him rotate between mime and ninja for speed and stats. His hp is already fucking ridiculous.

>wiegraf's thunder attack isn't negated by rubber shoes
epic

>>723267890 (OP)
Sorry.
This thread was actually supposed to be about me.

>>723292679
>get the reaction ability mp switch
>get mana font
>become untouchable

>>723292842
>Delita will never get to fuck her again

>>723292679
>the Chameleon Robe negates Holy Sword skills
>even though Holy Sword skills aren't holy elemental, Wiegraf thinks they are, so he won't use them if you have the Chameleon Robe on
Yes, this glitch still works in Ivalice Chronicles.
All Holy Sword skills are non-elemental unless using an elemental sword, by the way.

>>723293519
>draw your sword Ramza
>punches

>>723271959
Fuck you Weigraf, your sister is DEAD

Doing the Mustadio side quest made me enjoy seeing Ramza's silly side and Mustadio my bro over delita fuck him.

>>723271959
>(you)

>>723294002
Delita was never your fucking bro in the first place, fuck Delita

>rare battle
>bunch of chemists with guns
>leader has an electric gun
That shit was brutal

>>723271959
fuck

>>723271959
Classic 4chan maymay

Ivalice is a 3rd world kingdom. Will literally kill you for speaking the truth

>>723293519
>all this hyperplanning batman over effort for wiegraf
>samurai
>doublehand
>nice magic you fucking nerd. Check this shit out
>hes dead in 2 turns
I worked the entire Riovannes sequence like old leather this time around. I even genuinely considered trying to snatch a Barrette from one of the assassins before killing them but opted against it due to Rapha's suicidal AI

>>723271959
fuck you

>>723294151
>Thief with Shirahidori & Concentrate has entered the chat

>>723271959
No

>>723294445
That skips the mid-battle dialogue, which is against my religion.

Can you fucking not, game?

>>723270358
I mean animals delivering messages then exploding up on delivery is a good way to do it securely in a fantasy setting

>>723295308
Man, I remember when I first played this as a kid I'd have to cycle through the auto responses for dismissal to find one where they weren't begging to stay. One dude I kept around and never used to the very end because I spent like 20 cycles trying to get him to say the like one neutral dismissal line and he never did. Simply did not have the heart to let go of such tenacity, even though I did not need that archer.

I forget is the Agrias birthday event in this version or can I just spend money to my heart's content?

So if I wanted to do a replay of Tactics now, should I stick with WotL or play the Remake?

>Doing the cutest females run with Agrias, a White Mage, Geomancer and an Archer
>Decide to make Ramza a black mage to fill in the gap
>TFW he can equip the Materia Blade+
>TFW it gives +4 mage and his 16 power

>>723295597
Nope. So no Tynar Rouge either.

>>723270358
Anything resembling a mage using familiars/animals to talk isn't that strange is it?

>>723271959
You suck.

>>723295787
Ah whatever, Agrias is good enough as is with the Bracer and Excalibur

>>723295340
>animals
That was a human with a status effect.

>>723267890 (OP)
Did the shitty remake fix the bug where using her special magic would angle the camera down to default (I like it raised) and require you to press the button twice to fix it? That was kind of annoying

>>723295680
do you care about the wotl content that is missing

>>723271516
Virgin at heart

>>723295948
I enjoyed the bonus content but I don't find it a must have. I was mostly curious about the experience with the new cutscenes and translation vs the WotL cutscenes.

>>723295680
wotl has more content, couple more classes, couple more unique characters
remake has voice acting, some new lines (less scenes), like double the roster size

>>723295680
>if I wanted to do a replay of Tactics
the Remake is worth playing. if you've played FFT before and like it enough to replay it, the Remake is worth at least emulating to see what all the fuss is about.
>>723296207
>I was mostly curious about the experience with the new cutscenes and translation vs the WotL cutscenes
Except for the completely new dialogue, Ivalice Chronicles is 99% the WotL script. You have to bring your special units into certain battles if you want to see the new interactions. I personally find they range from kinda cute to outright bad. I wouldn't base my purchase of it entirely on wanting to see the new dialogue, because it doesn't even go as far as adding new scenes, like WotL did.

>>723272541
I always assumed it was a robotic frog based on the explosion sound effect.

>>723267890 (OP)
I don't understand the plot of this game on a literal level. And honestly, I think some of that is from Matsuno retconning things. Like, in the original, I remember the Lucavi referring to each other by their Lucavi names. But in this new version, they always refer to each other by human names. And they keep talking about their human desires and human personality, right up until death. That wasn't in the original. I think I read an interview, where Matsuno felt bad about criticism he got from players, saying they didn't like how the game shifted focus from human enemies to demons. But the end result is nonsense.
>Are demons real and distinct, or are they just manifestations of the darkness in human hearts?
>Who created the Zodiac stones? I seem to recall them saying the evil seraph created them, but the game also implies they weren't created by or for evil. So which is it?
>What do the Lucavi want? Overall, they want to restore their boss, but individually they retain their human desires? Like Weigraf still wants revolution? That's dumb.

The director of the remaster is a purist faggot who intentionally removed content because "its not muh ps1"
Fuck these stupid japanese directors who always do this shit and ruin the possibility of a perfect release. Did it with persona, did it with this, did it with the pixel remasters. I hate the japanese.

New to FFT here, is there any reason to use custom party members over named ones like Orlandeau, Agrias etc?

So the Lucavi no longer possess people?
In the original and WOTL, the person completely changes when the Lucavi take over. Weigraf is the best example, he goes from rebel to "I wanna kill as many people as I can" when gives in.
But in the remaster he keeps his personality and goals, and just turns darker.

>>723275267
There's de-level traps in Zeklaus Desert and Fovoham Plains. In fact, abusing them is part of a secret grindy-tech to max out your units stats.
It's fucking terrible and I've never done it because it's utterly pointless and takes dozens of hours. But it exists.

>>723296642
If you like the squire skillset and the sprite changes on job change, yes
You can also send them out on missions, which you can't do with the special members

>>723296692
Retarded revisionism
Creators should be banned from editing their own work after release

>>723296642
only if you don't care about the named character's unique job skills. generics are also easier to train up JP wise because they can do errands

>>723271959
Jokes on you I want my mom to die

>>723296573
>Weigraf still wants revolution
That sounds better than PSX. What's the point of creating these interesting characters then going "lol now he's a generic demon"? Makes Ramza's dialogue retarded too since he's still criticizing Wiegraf's decisions and goals but Wiegraf isn't in there anymore. So he's basically telling a Lucavi "I can't believe you sold out to the Lucavi, how sad!"

>>723271959
RAMZA FOR FUCK'S SAKE, DRAW YOUR FUCKING SWORD

>>723296642
every time i play this game i tell myself this time it's gonna be different and i'll use generics

and then by the end my team is nothing but special characters

>>723296971
I liked the Lucavi being legitimately otherworldly and demonic.

>>723296971
Dycedarg as well. They're no longer possessed by demons and instead just giving in to their darkest desires.

>>723271959
fuck you

>>723297132
I'm finding it hard to get the motivation to do that this run, I just got Cid and his bum ass doesn't know shit so now I need to do a training montage with him because I can't even send him on errands.

>>723296971
>Makes Ramza's dialogue retarded too since he's still criticizing Wiegraf's decisions and goals but Wiegraf isn't in there anymore. So he's basically telling a Lucavi "I can't believe you sold out to the Lucavi, how sad!"
It's relevant, he chose to embrace the power. Personally I think Wiegraf is still in there though, just completely corrupted to the Lucavi's ends
It's fucking weird if the actual story plays out exactly the same but the motivations of the Lucavi characters change

>>723297132
I don't think I've ever played FFT using the special characters, I'm always too invested in my chapter 1 generics to bother building up new characters
Maybe one day I'll do a special character only run to see the new dialog

>>723296573
>>723296692
I think the core idea of the Lucavi is intact, but there's definitely more of a focus on the people underneath and what they've allowed their desire for power to twist them into. It's not as if Wiegraf-as-Velius still wants the People's Revolution that Corpse Brigade Wiegraf wanted. He's talking about the kind the takes the form of slaughtering everyone and turning the world upside down. But you need that original lust for power there in order for the Lucavi to have something to grab onto.

>>723297246
in the case of Wiegraf it would make sense for him to see his revolution through via the church, perhaps naively thinking the church wouldn't just replace the noble class he seeks to topple. but personally I do think it better for the lucavi to be twisted forms of the person they inhabit rather than just going
>ooga booga I kill all da humans

Ramza isn't a hero. There are no heroes in war. He's just a man who's good at what he does: Killing.

>>723297337
Weigraf Velius' new motivation is basically Louis from Metaphor's goal. He wants to turn everyone into a Lucavi and those who can handle the power get to rise to the top.
So he's still possessed, but now it's done in a way where he thinks he's still following his human goal.

>>723297353
>but personally I do think it better for the lucavi to be twisted forms of the person they inhabit rather than just going
I can understand seeing it that way
I liked the tragedy of the characters embracing power to fulfil their goals, only for the Lucavi to corrupt them so much that they no longer gave a shit
I didn't like that the political story got sidelined for the Lucavi stuff but I don't think changing a little bit of dialogue fixes it
What FFT really needed was a Delita mode in addition to the Ramza mode

>>723296642
>farming job quests (if you wanna 100% FFT, you need this)
>filling roles that named units might not fill instantly (heal/buff/long range melee/magic), sure you COULD grind units like Rafa into great mages, but if you already have one it might be pointless unless you like her character/sprite.

>>723297508
>I didn't like that the political story got sidelined for the Lucavi stuff
Complete opposite for me. I loved that. I don't want another dime-a-dozen "MAN IS THE REAL MONSTER" crap. The Lucavi were legitimately scary in the original.

>>723297508
Delita mode would be cool problem is that it seems like the bulk of his story is background scheming and spying while playing the role of a commander in the war, so justifying fights for every story event would be tough unless they just make all of his encounters random skirmishes of little importance

>>723297582
>"MAN IS THE REAL MONSTER
thats still the case in FFT though

>>723297508
>What FFT really needed was a Delita mode in addition to the Ramza mode
Kind of disagree there, not telling everything is part of the charm of FFT. That's why people keep discussing it up to this day. Even before the remake, every once in a while we someone ends up making a DRAW YOUR SWORD thread, and it usually ends up on either people dumping pics of their favorite girl, actual game discussion, sometimes both.

I want the Delita/Ovelia missions from WOTL back.

>>723297582
My problem with the Lucavi in the original is they were genuinely scary and evil, but it also made the church seem at most generous comically incompetent and really deserving of being dismantled. You cannot come back from accidentally worshiping Satan Bloodharvest and his band of horrors. At least now I can give them like 5% leeway because the Lucavi are more ethereal and corrupting instead of totally usurping the person.

>>723297582
>I don't want another dime-a-dozen "MAN IS THE REAL MONSTER" crap.
It wasn't dime a dozen when it came out. And ss "evil monsters trying to unseal their evil JRPG god" any less dime a dozen?
It's just weird that it starts out heavy on the political angle and then veers into "lol demons"
They could have intertwined the two things a bit better, explored the Lucavi's motivations more. I really like the Lucavi stuff I just don't like the way it was integrated
It's still pretty much my favorite game, the plot just needed work

>>723297846
>You cannot come back from accidentally worshiping Satan Bloodharvest and his band of horrors
it's not even an accident, the scriptures totally expose the church as a bunch of fraudsters who are also too stupid to destroy the evidence that proves as much

>>723297716
how about Rendezvous missions with more content and 5 player co-op

>>723297971
FFT but every unit is controlled by a different player would be cool. game is already kind of balanced around just booming everything before you need too much support so it's not like everyone could be these giga buffed god slayers while one person gets stuck on healing duty

>>723298074
>stuck on healing duty
How dare you, healing is a noble art

>>723271959
bastard

>>723297971
That War of the Visions FFT clone slop had 3 player co-op that wasn't so bad. Agrias was fun even there.

>>723275954
>reddit squad
>cheese in every crevice
>soulless

am I retarded? I do fine most battles but then some battles I just get shit on. how do I stop battles like wiegraf and cuchulainn from being completely unbalanced where the only way I win is when I get lucky and the game decides not to assrape me with OP skills long enough to let me kill the boss? like what's the actual "strategy" here to beat them reliably and cleanly every time that I'm missing?

>>723298243
Auto-potion

>>723297915
>>723297846
Saint Ajora did nothing wrong.

>>723298214
>War of the Visions
Oh so that's where they got the idea for the stupid new UI from

>>723298243
the answer is always more damage. however if you don't know how to make units that do gorillions of damage, self sustaining stuff like Auto-potion the other anon mentioned is pretty good. Summoner and Golem also helps in staying alive, but only against SOME physical threats, golem for whatever reason doesn't seem to block some monster attacks.

>>723298273
You now realize that the Wiegraf fight intentionally gimps auto-potion by giving you a high potion as a reward for the previous battle. So when Ramza inevitably gets hit first in the subsequent battle, he only heals for 70 with auto-potion.

I guess I might as well share some of my nsfw Agrias slop while there's a FFT thread up

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>>723298394
Oh is that where I got that high potion? How much does Wiegraf hit on tactician? He did 114 to me on normal, so not eating an X potion there was basically entirely negligible

>>723298394
KEK

>>723298450
delete this.
lady agrias would never have sex. she is too pure for that.

the old man training arc begins, white mage is only there to beef up his brave via speechcraft once his brave is 90+ she's getting benched so the thunder god here can quickly solo every encounter

>>723298450
delete this

>>723298394
Those old Japanese men truly harbored hatred in the hearts, I'm a bit in awe.

>>723298509
She's either married or plans to get married, according to Matsuno.

>>723298243
every lucavi boss has some status effect gimmick attack
the accessory for that is sold a couple battles before it happens

>>723298450
based

>aislop every thread
good morning sir

>>723298748
>Alma gets cucked by Agrias
knights always win baby

>>723271959
Beoulvesissies, your response?

>>723272104
There are excessive guides on how she can be turned into a good unit. Requires a lot of work, same goes for her brother. Their concepts are fine, the implementation of game mechanics is what destroys their class. Iirc there are mods tweaking their class and suddenly they are ultra strong.

>>723298604
Right. Generate nsfw slop with Geo-chan instead

>>723298748
Oh no no Agriasisters. Sounds like Gafgalion was right about us.

>>723297508
>I didn't like that the political story got sidelined for the Lucavi stuff
I go back and forth on this. FFT has to be a video game, and since it has "Final Fantasy" in the title, they couldn't really avoid killing God on a ruined airship by the end. I don't think it crowds out the political intrigue, though, and you can see Delita using Ramza to solve his "Lucavi disposal problem," and then Ramza getting neatly pigeonholed as a heretic, as reinforcing the game's major theme about true heroism being a largely thankless task. Delita's arc is pretty much finished anyway by the time Folmarv's plot takes focus.
Sure, the Lucavi stick out like sore thumbs in an otherwise grounded War of the Roses type of plot (in a magical, post-airship society, granted), but I think if the Wiegraf fight ended without a Velius or something similar in phase 2, it would have felt anticlimactic. Sort of like the duel at the end of a Western. Is it realistic? No, they needed to punctuate those moments with something genre-appropriate.
Plus, the game needs its instances of "here's what various flavors of evil people who want power do when they actually get it." I think that's something that people who only play the first chapter will miss about Wiegraf's character arc.

>>723271959
>Doesn't say tonight
Dumb idiot retard. You fool. I want all of my relatives to pass peacefully in their sleep. Except my stupid bitch aunt I want her to die in a way that is humiliating.

Done with the game. Gonna play it again after awhile

>>723299214
>full academy curriculum
Jesus fuck that was just the tutorial?

Good thing -ja spells can be passed on, so you can save some time mastering jobs.

>>723299248
This is weird, aren't female soldiers and knights completely normal in FFT?

>>723299248
Is there no age in remake? I remember it was pretty funny how in WotL you could finish the game with ~60 y/o Ramza if you spend a lot of time grinding stuff. Don't remember it was a thing in PS1 version

>>723299472
>Don't remember it was a thing in PS1 version
It was

I wish women like agrias would exist in real life

>>723299586
For people like Agrias and Ramza to exist, honor would have to have any value in our reality.
Alas.

>>723299463
the logic of the game's feudal system doesn't really mesh well with its comparatively egalitarian approach to its military systems and combat.

>>723299265
Speaking of tutorial, only there I learned that night battles reduce hit rate of bows. And there are rainy and dry seasons depending on the zodiac cycle. I played this game for so many times.

>>723299463
It can be assumed to only apply to... very specific noble houses.
Because if you then also look at Rafa and Meliadoul, it still doesn't hold. So basically they just bullshitted some drama sprinkles.

>>723299837
I have no problem believing in female soldiers in a world where magic is real. The game itself even makes women physically weaker and more suited towards wizardly. That said, all the outright female knights running around is kind of dumb.

>>723300000
what a fucking waste
checked nonetheless

>>723292842
I bullied her. Sexually.

>>723298450
Mayhap you forget yourself, SER.

>>723299463
it is inconsistent. Alma curses not being born a male, as if that stops her from being a strong combatant but it could be the case of the Beoulves focusing solely on the men as knights, with the Oaks following the same structure. But then you have Milleuda, Meliadoul, Zalmor's first fight fields female monks and so on. I think it's them wanting the traditional medieval setting with specific gender roles, but also wanting men and women units for the sake of mechanical and visual variety in the gameplay.

>>723300303
Well, she kind of is.

>>723300312
I guess they couldn't really use Rafa's whole "it's okay because she's an assassin but also a mage so she kills people but with magic" for every single woman they wanted in the party.

>>723300426
Rafa and Malak being """assassins""" will never not be funny.
>magic is not only extremely flashy but EXTREMELY LOUD
>also it's random
What the fuck kind of assassins are they

>>723271959
Your sister was hot.

>(FFT)Cloud is just an auracite stone playing a game of cosplay pretend
Nani
Was this actually confirmed in the previous versions? It's been so long.

>>723297473
>He wants to turn everyone into a Lucavi and those who can handle the power get to rise to the top
I had to go look this up. I remembered that Cletienne in the battle where you kill him says something about mass-producing and distributing the stones. I didn't remember Velius saying anything about it, because it turns out it's hidden in a dialogue with Agrias.
wtf. why would they even bother trying to implement such a half-baked motivation into the story at all, if it only gets mentioned in 2 lines of dialogue and one of them is missable? all I can think of is
>And when everyone's Lucavi...!
>...No one will be.

>>723300723
That's not what that means. Improve your reading comprehension.

>>723300723
No, in the original the assumption was Cloud ended up in FFT after falling into the life stream

>>723300312
Alma's curse is an in-the-heat-of-the-moment kind of complaint. She's coming to terms with her half-brothers being absolute monsters and seeing that Ramza's been out there trying to make things right and thinks she can't meaningfully contribute like he can. I don't take it as some kind of complaint about gender roles so much as simple frustration at feeling helpless

>>723271959
Draw your sword

>>723300723
It means he's a copy, a duplicate created by the stones. And the dialogue/plot point is added for this. Probably to justify why Cloud doesn't bring any info back and doesn't get a convenient warp out by the end of any questline or stuff.

>>723301029
Are you pretending to be retarded?

>>723300981
To force you to use the unique characters to get the dialogues so that you can feel like oh my god so much has been added and the characters are now totally relevant (even though they never show up in any actual cutscene)
That is the Squeenix way. Half ass it.

>>723300723
no way. if anything, I assumed FFT Cloud was literally FF7 Cloud teleported through the magic of fanservice.
or this. >>723301048
>Besrudio: A device for teleportation across dimensions - across the very fabric of time and space.
>Ramza: Cloud...There are people waiting for you back in your world, am I not right? With the power of another Stone, we may be able to return you there.
the "copy" dialogue is a retcon.

>>723301252
I guess it's a fair enough retcon when it makes little overall sense to any form of continuity. It's the whole thing of "did you teleport, or did the device just copypaste you and killed the other one?" sorta situation.

>>723299934
That's cool. There are so many unique things in this game. I wonder if it would be too niche to have a job whose abilities depended on the weather. There's already one whose abilities depend on the terrain.

>>723301753
I am sure that was the initial idea for Astrologist before they have it to Orran and decided to go the
>fuck it, it just kills everyone
way.

>>723301839
I don’t know if it’s intentional maybe the idea was to have Orran parallel Orlandu
>Orlandu is OP because he can use a wide variety of powerful skills
>Orran is OP because he has a single skill that’s ludicrously strong

Orran is supposed to be an aura farmer with a broken skill? His skill literally didn't affect a single enemy in my run and I had to bumrush to save him.

>>723302216
Whichever may be, really makes you wonder how did they manage to burn him alive when he can literally slow reality around him and shatter people's brains.
Guess they got to him at a bad day for his horoscope or whatever.

>>723298748
Wait, Agrias is still in Ramza's group?

>>723301068
>I don't take it as some kind of complaint about gender roles so much as simple frustration at feeling helpless
Which is completely retarded if you think about that for more than a nanosecond, since if gender roles weren't relevant to the situation, why would she bring up being a man as something that would enable her to enact change?

>>723302523
I always figured that had to be the case, otherwise she'd try to go back to Ovelia and find she was gutted like a fish by Delita.

>>723302269
>>723302325
reminder that orran wrote the story. he purposefully made he and his father OP

>>723301252
They should've added the plot ghosts from Remake in the final battle just to carry Cloud away any time you try to use him.

>>723301190
If the bastards would've kept the WOTL content in then it would've felt more natural since the PSP port actually added in new cutscenes.

>>723302663
Ovelia survived Delita's stabbing. Matsuno confirmed this on twitter.

>>723302523
Damn, Ramza actually took care of his party long after the war. I always figured they all split up after the war.

>>723302869
>Matsuno confirmed this on twitter.
This guy seems to love changing his mind and retconning shit, so I don't consider his "confirmations" to be of much value
I also remember in the announcement he talked about Ramza tirelessly fighting for the underprivileged or some shit, which is patently false

>>723302903
Didn't it parallel the real story of the zodiac braves? Germonique and his friends defeated altima then assumed different identities after the battle.

ramza and his friends "die" and start a new life while hiding the stones

>>723303232
That's why I figured they split up. Each get new identities and live their own lives. I just never thought their new lives would be together. Som Ramza and Mustadio are still bros. Makes me smile.

>>723294445
In my first run in the PSX, I entered that map as the team's support time mage. Died in one turn.
Had to check for twenty minutes what I could use to survive that duel.

>>723303480
>In my first run in the PSX, I entered that map as the team's support time mage. Died in one turn.
in mine ramza was a LV60 monk with 100 brave who punched him to death in an instant
the Finath River fight with the chocobos was a nightmare tho, had to reset until there there was only one LV60 red chocobo to murder me

>>723303013
>fighting for the underprivleged
It might have been "fighting for justice" actually, but that's still not really accurate
Ramza is a good dude who rejects hypocrisy and stands for what's right, but most of the story didn't really involve fighting for justice

>>723303013
Yeah I don't care for tiny details added retrospectively even if they are by the author. A completed work is a completed work.

I do not know how I beat this game as a kid. I damn sure didn't understand most of the mechanics. I guess I just grinded? I know in Chapter 4 I just had Cid kill everything. Wish I still had my old memory card and game so I could see my save file.

>>723303836
It's honestly not that hard. You can roll Knights and Mages and Item and be fine.

>>723303013
I doubt he'd do for long even if he wanted to. The game even makes a point about revolutionaries and others who seek to fight for the underprivileged not being completely in the right and causing problems of their own. Ramza fought against literal biblical evils while he was unable to do much against human evils like corruption.

>>723303836
The game is easier than what people like to lead on. Only random battles scale with you so if you were as autistic as me with grinding and learning new skills, you became overpowered for the story battles.

t. had to restart the whole game on Wiegraf and was so worried it would happen again, I would play it too safe and grinded random battles. I never even realized people would have problem with the rooftop fight until I got internet

>>723303013
>I also remember in the announcement he talked about Ramza tirelessly fighting for the underprivileged or some shit, which is patently false
Yeah, Ramza just didn't want Ovelia to get murdered, and by trying to save her he stumbled into a demonic plot.

>>723304079
The rooftop fight is just basically RNG with any properly leveled party. Sometimes you just get fucked over without getting a chance to move. Other times Rafa survives and you kill Elmdore in like 2 attacks

>>723275713
supposedly theres a way to manipulate the attack so it hits the same spot all the time. it requires you and the enemy to position so the empty tiles of the attack are not legal targets whether by it being too high/low altitude or it not being a walkable space or something. that way, the attack can only random into the only legal tile for each hit. or you can just get a monk with dual wield and save yourself that fucking headache.

>>723299463
There's a lot of difference between letting your women fight because you just spent fifty years at war and you're suddenly in the middle of another, and having an egalitarian view of the matter.

>>723302269
It's supposed to be thematic. Astronomy is literally magical in Ivalice, but he's not a soldier. He has no fighting skill, and will die to a man with a gun if he isn't stopped.

>>723276198
Triple Flame shits on everything in the game you can’t compare anything to that it’s just not fair

>>723271959
Everyone seeing my post doesn't have to reply to him. All curses are cleansed.

>>723304476
To be fair, everyone dies to a gun in this game. Even mechanically, just a dude sent to chat you down with a gun sitting on a porch snipes the shit out of devils and demons and trained knights with ease.
Realistic, mind you.

>>723302747
>and then and then... and then my dad showed up!! and he was the coolest and the bestest and had this amazing sword that was better than everyone's and he beat YOUR DAD in a single hit and everyone was like WOW CID IS SO COOL WE CAN'T JUST NOT HAVE HIM IN OUR PARTY
>anyway then there was this time where I got ambushed and Ramza tried to help me but I was like "lol fag" and then I blasted erryone with my mad haxx0r skeelz
>then I didn't join them though, 2cool4them, so Delita assigned me my own full time blonde bimbo GF which I banged EVERY DAY

>>723303013
I don't know, it doesn't seem like it's beyond measure that Delita would not randomly kill his trophy wife leading to yet another scandal that would drive his kingdom upside-down.
He's a soldier, and he actually """loved""" her. He can take a stab and knock out an untrained weak girl easily, why would he go through so much only for a last minute moment of
>aie you stabbed me die bitch!!
Feels as out of character to assume he would do that, as the whole they-were-ghosts-all-along thing people came up with with Orran and Balmafula by the end.

I think, Delita sucks

>>723305534
Doesn't matter either way, we already know that whatever change he seems to bring to Ivalician society doesn't stick and by the time of Vagrant Story both the church and the nobles are back to being absolute garbage so lel and so forth.

So if I want to see the maximum amount of new dialogue I should use Agrias, Mustadio, Cid, and Meliadoul or however the fuck you spell her name? The two brownies don't get new dialogue?

>>723305319
Your reasoning isn't wrong, but Matsuno is weird and presents things a certain way in the game only to walk them back later. For instance, I think it's heavily suggested that Balmafula is mute in the final cutscene. Plus with the various other changes that have been made, I just don't trust his word on the matter. He seems like one of those creators who changes his mind a lot.
I'm not saying Ovelia definitely died though, I just think it's much better left ambiguous.

>>723305319
Honestly in world where Curaja exists wounds like those shouldn't even be considered wounds.

>>723305875
I understand that overclarification of things is usually not great. But, I do think it's one of those things that just "seemed" that way but was never intended to be. I never took it that way, primarily because the sound that plays when Delita knocks her out is similar to when other units get knocked out without dying. He'd have to purposely shank the bitch in the heart for her to instantly die otherwise, which would again feel rather off-character.
I never gave much thought to Balmafula beyond her just being sort of there, perhaps because she felt like cut content given her unique model yet no relevance whatsoever. I can however see in that instance her having had her tongue cut by all means, mind you. Would have been a neat detail. But she always just felt... unfinished.

>>723288467
I played FFTA and 2 first and went back to FFT and the story is better, especially 2 is really bad in comparison while A1 is still kinda good though more lighthearted. The gameplay in comparison is absolute dogshit though. Even with all the quality of life shit from the remaster, the game just plays like shit in comparison. The game FFT was based on is still the best.

>>723305917
>WHY DIDN'T THEY USE A PHOENIX DOWN ON TETRA/TETA/TIETRA
No, but yeah, I agree. Specially since in this particular FF, they do use magic as part of the storyline.

>>723305175
>Nice argument Goltanna, however in my story I have depicted you as the fat loser nobleman and me as the Chad

>>723288467
I played CT first and I think CC is a vastly, vastly superior game.
Then again I also think they basically have nothing to do with each other save for taking place in the same universe and attempts to compare them to one another are retarded when they don't even share artstyle.

>>723271959
WIEGRAAAAAAAAAAF!!!

>>723306128
Tietras body exploded into a million pieces when she protected delita

>>723306605
Nah, Delita says she swam carrying him all the way to the shore and died from exhaustion. Because the bitch was swole apparently.

>>723306648
>where do you work out?
>at the Akademy

>>723267890 (OP)
Can't be worse than Catiua
>does nothing but bitch and moan at the wimpy MC
>cannot be controlled in combat
>cannot change equipment
>blocks your movement
>face rushes into the enemies despite being a healer
>gets bodied
>refuses to eloborate
>leaves
I actually ragequit TORB because of her.

>>723306648
>>723306668
>tanks an arrow to the chest
>survives an explosion capable of levelling a building point-blank
>manages to swim in ice-cold waters carrying older male brother in full set of armour to the shore
Let's be frank, she had to die. Imagine her turning into a Lucavi.

one thing that wasn't fully explained why worker 8 uses a specific auracite to move

Mustadio seems kinda shit in fights (I'm autistic and keeping him as Machinist instead of going with some generic broken setup)

>>723273196
He planned on placing them in hopeless situations that would give rise to desperate desire. The stones are basically all Behelits.

>>723306908
Mustadio and his dad really wished Worker 8 would function again.
So the auracite did what they asked.

>>723306964
Don't use story characters. Only use Ramza and the rest of the team being generics

>>723307001
That's retarded since the only reason to play this version of the game is to get the new dialogues which only trigger with the uniques.

>>723307039
I'm not playing it and I'm not interested in the voice acting. I only played the OG FFT on playstation and emulator.

Stop using story characters.

>>723307101
Retard.

>>723306990
I guess this is the easiest explanation.

>>723307101
xD your stupid af dude........ XD

>>723307140
Says the guy who is forcing himself to use the story characters

>>723271959
DRAW YOUR SWORD, MOTHER FUCKER

>>723271959
Sfg

What are your meme builds?

>>723302869
How awkward do you think the conversation with the royal chirurgeons was after that? Like hehe just a lover's quarrel think nothing of it and stitch these stab wounds up.

>>723309078
It was those damn Goblin assassins

FFT and its Ivalice are standalone in my mind and my headcanon is that Ovelia and Delita BOTH die at the end.

>>723309195
Anon the start of the game outright says Delita's rule was a golden age

>>723309239
He simply enacted all those great changes before him and Ovelia killed each other.

>>723271959
Total Wiegraf Death

Am I missing some stuff or is Delita's story very convenient in general?
>randomly gets recruited by the super powerful clandestine church faction that secretly controls everything despite being a literally who
>Goltanna believes him completely over one of his confidants despite, again, being a literally who, and no one cares that he executed him in the middle of Goltanna's court

>>723267890 (OP)
what nortubel character is this

>>723309485
>Am I missing some stuff
you apparently missed the fact that Final Fantasy Tactics is a JRPG

>>723309628
>sustaining yourself with the burgers of the land of Ivalice
Ah yes, a natural way to live

>>723309485
My thoughts were that he was very result oriented so everyone came to value him very fast.

>>723271959
Fuck you you got me

>>723309485
That part kind of beggared belief yeah, i just assumed the church smoothed things over for him behind the scenes since he was gonna be their plant in goltanna's side. Like the prisoner with their testimony was probably a church actor, just like later on you see another church lackey offering himself as a body double for orlandeau's corpse.

There's definitely a lot of stuff you're supposed to just infer i guess. Like we never actually find out if he really was a member of the blackram knights, or that was all just a cover story and he picked a company that was conveniently all dead so no one could contradict his account.

>>723271959
stfu Wiegraf

>>723309485
>Kills a noble openly based off nothing but the testimony of a random prisoner
>immediately becomes the Duke’s right hand man

Unironically don’t think about it too hard because yes it’s extremely contrived lmao

>>723309485
it's why TO: LUCT's story is a lot better

>>723310059
I also love TO's story, but man it hurts that we're never getting more entries in that world. LUCT left so many tantalizing plot threads open for a Lodis game (I know about Knight of Lodis but I mean one after LUCT).

>>723309981
He has chad energy that made them all believe him. Plus he came back with Ovelia.

Terrible unique class. Great chemist, though.

>>723267890 (OP)
Last time I made ramza a dual wield monk, and used agrias, a black/time mage, a white mage with elemental guns and a samurai/dragoon. What are some cool builds to play in case I get the remake (no, I'm not using cid nor calculator, late game is easy enough as it is) ?.

i set the difficulty to squire so i can draw out every story battle stress free and see all the dialogue :)

>>723310312
Rapha and Malak can be good if you pay attention to elevation and monster elemental weaknesses it’s really just a matter of the game already being broken in half by the time you get them so “potentially doing more damage” doesn’t really matter

>>723288663
FFTA happens in the super far future of FFT. Mewt overlays a fake Ivalice on the real one.
FFTA2 takes place at least 10 years after FFT since Mewt is heavily implied to be the librarian. Luso is then time displaced to a few years after FFXII and the game ends with him going back home.

>>723310312
But doesn't chemist have awful stat growths that make any character who levels as one shit?

>>723271959
i want to kill wiegraf

>>723310748
great news: just keep playing

>>723310059
LUCT is solid but the routes end up suffering because he has to try to make everything tie into chapter 4.

>>723295112
If you kill him that fast, the game plays through that dialouge before switching to the second phase.

>>723310821
Yeah, it would've been great if the game had a unique chapter 4 for every route as well instead of what we got. When I replay nowadays I only do Law as a result

>>723310880
That's good to know. In the second Wiegraf fight I retried lke 20 times to get the dialogue because I could only either a) nuke him immediately or b) game over.

>>723271959
Kek

>>723309981
ultimately it's that delita is playing his own JRPG where things just work out for the protagonist. I remember specifically not buying the Goltanna cutscene even the first time I played it though

>>723311042
that's why you play on squire, it makes the game so fire B)

haha yeah i slid in a little rhyme, i'm sure that's not a crime~

>>723310913
I dislike what the remakes did to the route balance. They threw most of the new content on Law and then poached Arycelle from Chaos.

>>723271959
Kys

>>723311042
I think the first phase is the only time in the game that does that. Every other fight is like you said. Its weird but the devs really wanted you to hear it.

>>723310564
Stat growths don’t matter in the scope of a normal playthrough

>>723271959
Kys

>>723271959
IT'S OVAH!

>>723305853
Cloud and Beowulf get unique dialogue too

>>723271959
YOU MOCK US! YOU'RE IN NO POSITION TO BARGAIN!

Just 5 units isn't enough. Should fluctuate from 5 to 8 depending on the map.

BAGGED

>>723311872
This 1.3 insane?

>>723309078
Probably said Ramza jumped out of the bushes and ganked her.

>>723298450
Goddamn, slop is getting better by the day.

>>723310379
Samurai/Orator with Magic Surge
Knight with high faith and Equip Gun
Dragoon with perma-Haste and Speed Surge

>>723310379
make it so that ramza always rides a chocobo

>>723310564
They get to throw potions and shoot shit, so its a good trade off.

>>723309485
The running theme of Delita is that nobody took him seriously as a threat because he was a commoner.
Add to this the underlying theme that Larg and Goltanna were both blinded by their own ambitions that the Church was using them to its own advantage (ironically even as they were blind to the Lucavi, who used them in turn) and you have a political situation where an overlooked no-name commoner can do a lot of damage being in the right place at the right time.

>>723271959
tranny

Mods dropping yet?

>>723314158
https://www.nexusmods.com/games/finalfantasytacticstheivalicechronicles/mods

>>723271959
Fuck

mods to match and surpass the PSX mods when

>>723314347
modders are kinda autistic, arent they?

>pray lend me your aid
>proceeds to get murdered by her brother and 2 ninjas before I even get to move

That got a chuckle out of me.

>>723314798
You should see them in the discord. That link doesn't remotely illustrate just how hard at work they are making tools and figuring stuff out.

>>723315137
don't say it, don't say it...

any girls itt who wanna meet n fuck?

>>723315137
>>723316047
FINAL FANTASY TACTICS: THE RAMZA CHRONICLES & RAMZA FEATURING RAMZA FROM THE RAMZA SERIES AND THE NEW RAMZA MODE

>>723267890 (OP)
my enthusiasm for unlocking everything died when i learned blackmage/math magic and monk/ninja trivializes the entire game so getting the op gear is pointless

>>723316309
Try playing tactician

>>723316560
>try playing no fun mode
No.

>>723294445
>Samurai with doublehand by the time you get to Wiegraf
yeah you overleveld
mana walking + mana shield is the most graceful strategy

>>723311872
>

>>723316560
Monk still punches everything to death with duel wield. Really all this mode showed me if it isn't a duel wielding monk then its wrong.

Reflexes is good for shield users only imo
The accesory slot is for perfumes etc

Is there any mods to disable unit dispatch limit yet? I want to bring the uniques onto battle for dialogue prompts but I kinda want to use my generics for the actual playing.
>just watch it in youtube
I would, but there's no compilation.

>>723316884
Monk is just the easier to get going, the game has so many retarded broken strats that nerfing one just leaves the next 10 in it's place.

>>723275954
Sounds boring as fuck to play. Just spamming dance/song is boring.

I still miss Dark Knight because it was my way of giving Rad/Ladd more character
>Ramza, when all this shit's over I'm goin' back to merc work

>>723294445
Back when the game first came out I had Ramza dual-wielding as a knight or something, or maybe just stayed as a ninja, and Wiegraf died in one or two turns as well. I did the focus + yell + surrounding a chocobo or using chakra on Mandalia Plains back then to overlevel and grind JP quick, and did the same this time around. I'm in chapter 2 and already have move+3 on everybody. Wiegraf will get raped even easier this time, even on tactical mode.

>>723317632
Fem dark knight is so cute.

>>723317632
I miss it too. I loved making a party of Dark Knights to rape everything. I know it trivializes the game but I want that option available. I wish they kept it in and added NG+ with ridiculously difficult AI and enemies where you can't turn difficulty down. I would pay for DLC that had that gladly.

>>723291183
Having the same issue. Can't decide if I want to make him a Geo, or keep him as a Netherseer with Iaido, or wait until DD and use Faith Rod for black magic. Really wish Netherseer could just equip Swords or Rods.

I could have saved her

I've seen people do powerleveling setups where everyone gets frogged and berserked and set to auto. My question is why is the frog part important? If you power break everyone down to 1, they're going to be hitting for 1 even as humans anyway.

I think the demon stuff is kind of gay compared to the political intrigue, but how do the auracites/stones play into FF12? Those rocks don’t turn people into demons in that game. I think.

>>723312125
Original game.. this video is older than most zoomers

>>723318602
Wasn't she a fake anyway or did Vormav(?) LIE

Did you know chemist has innate equip gun

Generic Knight girls are cute

>>723319095
Chemists having innate Equip Gun makes Archer look even more like a joke class, cause guns basically have auto-Concentrate baked into them

>>723284785
I feel the same way. On the one hand, I really like how Vagrant Story’s dialogue was written to be a bit old timey. On the other hand, this localization feels like they really went over performative drama class kid. “TO SUP ON BROTH OF BEAN THY MIDDLING WASTREL”
It feels retarded.

>>723319253
But the damage is fixed where bows can get pretty good damage, crossbows are still ass though

Did you notice that BAGS can only be equipped by bard and dancer lol

>>723319328
Is there a mod to turn off Vagrant Story's dogshit gameplay or change it beyond recognition so I can enjoy the rest of the game without one of the worst combat systems ever?

>>723318905
Elmdor is not level 89

>ending of mesa's musings
I'M FUCKING PISSED OFF

Which Fire Emblem games have the same kind of tone as FFT?

>>723319095
It is COMMON KNOWLEDGE

>>723319553
You can "fix" it somewhat by giving your weapon of choice affinity across the board, but it's tedious because too much is overpowered.

>>723319610
True.. likely an earlier hardtype hack

>>723320071
Probably the SNES ones

>>723271959
Faggot

>>723320071
Three Houses

Did you know Construct 8 has ignore weather? It's useless because she cannot enter water.

https://youtu.be/F_J39ETalck?si=tFsD4R9dixK4CgRO&t=336
>Cletienne has a mini-rant about women
Gay twink?

Given that reflexes doubles your evasion stats, if you use it with escutcheon 2 do you become literally invulnerable except when hit from behind?

>>723318894
they're just nukes

l.i.t.t.l.e
m.o.n.e.y

>>723319437
Original vision: retained

>>723321397
Yes but many things ignore evasion

>>723319359
They are one modded flag check away from being able to be dual wielded.
I know, guns too...

>>723321397
By chapter 4 many monsters and bosses have 100 % rate skills

>>723324373
TO got it right by having two categories per ranged weapon, one handed and two handed

>>723319359
Feels like every weapon type is ass in this game except for knight swords, guns, and polearms. Everything else is a meme used for stuff like throwing (flails, axes) or activating skills (katanas).

>>723325648
Maybe restricting magical guns for dual wielding would make "sense" if you need a certain level of concentration to make a shot.
You can easily re-categorize and re-balance around flags and numbers to create your own one handed/two handed categories between weapons though.

>>723302325
Galaxy stop is just a bunch of debuffs, he probably got caught when his pursuers equipped Ribbons