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Do people even still want a Half Life 3 at this point? What would it even look like a whole 20 years later? Could it ever measure up to the expectations people have for it now? What would you want to see from it? Discuss.

I don’t want Half-Life 3. I want Artifact.

Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.

>>723275943
based shartifact poster

Deathmatch, Community servers and mod support

>>723275991
I actually want HL3 Deathmatch. All mainline HL games have multiplayer modes, I don't see why not for HL3.

>>723275865 (OP)
I’m sure if most people were asked the question “would you like to see a Half Life 3 announcement tomorrow?” they would comfortably answer yes but you’re right that the market and video games as a whole when HL released and what it is today might as well be two completely separate dimensions. Who knows what kind of monkey’s paw current year nonsense modern Valve would put into it.

>>723275865 (OP)
Yes to all

>>723275865 (OP)
it cant possibly live up to the hype

sure
it's only been five years since the last entry (which was solid but played a bit safe)

>>723275865 (OP)
I would prefer a Left 4 Dead 3, thank you.

>>723275865 (OP)
I don’t see why not. I never played Alyx but I wanted sex with her. I’m sure they could manage something.

>>723275865 (OP)
we can do without it. what’s there will always be solid and memorable. best not take the chance and sully that.

>>723275865 (OP)
>Do people even still want a Half Life 3 at this point?
yes. universally, on some level, everyone wants half life 3.
>What would it even look like a whole 20 years later?
probably like half life alyx
>Could it ever measure up to the expectations people have for it now?
the current expectation is no game, so yeah.
>What would you want to see from it?
a conclusion to the story is non-negotiable at this point. explain gman and his "employers" and how it connects to the vortiguants and the combine, and settle things on Earth however Valve sees fit. and honestly if Valve doesn't have a plan to continue Chell's story they should tie her in to HL3 too, a lot of people would find this corny but i think it would be cool. gameplay wise, if valve really is focusing on elements and detaching them from just being properties of brushes and simple entities that emit effects so they can be their own class of thing, so Gordon could have a flamethrower that burns through some materials (or a Tau Gun type of thing having the same effect) or whatever it is they were doing, that would be fine. more toys to play with, more puzzles, more shootouts, like always, but with whatever new things valve has come up with and can achieve with source 2, that's really all i would want. and of course, whatever you get to use at the end has to be really kick ass.

>>723275865 (OP)
sure why not? eli dying was already retconned so 2 isn't even a cliffhanger anymore. an entire game of going after the g-man to get your gf back would be fun.

>>723277009
Can you explain how Portal is connected to half life I don’t understand

HL2 is my second favorite game ever, but even if HL3 was the best game ever and cured cancer, it wouldn't live up to expectations, and Valve knows it. The company has been complete shit since 2013. Would you rather sit on your ass and rake in hundreds of millions fleecing the Counter Strike/Dota mongrels, or spends years on a game that will inevitably disappoint a significant portion of the audience?

>>723275865 (OP)
Closure

>>723277136
did you play the episodes?? mossman goes to find the aurora which was made by aperture science.

>>723277136
its in the same universe as half life as theres a ship called borealis somewhere and it has something to do with aperture science

>>723275865 (OP)
All I want from it is more HL2 style gameplay and finishing the story in an arctic setting.
That’s it, that’s all I want.

>>723277136
the Borealis that people already mentioned was both in HL2:E2 where Dr. Breen mentions Aperture Science by name, and then in Portal 2 you can find the dry dock for the Borealis as an easter egg, and Cave Johnson also mentions Black Mesa by name

I just really hope that a Half Life 3 doesn't still take place in 2's setting instead of an all-new one.

>>723277160
you could easily do both, hell you wouldn't even need to market the game. as far as disappointing people they already did that with 2 with people who hated it and called it a tech demo for the past 20 years, disappointing people is nothing new. the people who like these games will play them, the people who don't will just go back to counter strike.

>>723277228
>>723277241
>>723277317
Ah cool. I’ve played both Portal 1 and 2. But never a Half Life game so I’m just confused on that front.

>>723277324
The Arctic is technically a new setting already.
>HL1: Black Mesa
>HL2: City 17 and its surroundings
>HL3: Arctic and maybe Xen

>>723277535
I agree for the most part but there’s the chance of fucking it up so badly it retroactively ruins the other games for people but they would need to do some impressively silly things to mess it up that hard.

I think the time where hl3 would have been a really daring new entry, as different from 2 as 2 was from 1 has passed. we're not getting that game. we're going to get another alyx, a very polished conventional entry strictly within the half life 2 combine storyline. do I want to see that hl3 announcement? sure I do but the game we'll get out of it meh.

>>723277720
While I agree that HL3 should be about something else entirely, the Combine plot still has a lot of fuel left in it imo. We still only scratched the surface of their true capability and such. Besides, they might introduce another threat this time, like whoever is controlling Xen post-HL1.

>>723277720
This. HL was so magical because it was revolutionary and groundbreaking for its time. Even if its story beats and gameplay were heavily inspired by others before it, the things it introduced and accomplished of its own were special. Now, Valve would practically have to reinvent the wheel to make the same splash.

all 3 has to do is have gordon chasing gman down to get alyx back and making sure the combine can't use the aurora. it doesn't have to be some crazy ass over marketed shit that would make geoff keighly stop sucking hideo kojima's cock for and begs everyone to join a discord.

>>723275865 (OP)
More than anything, we need to see him get what he always wanted. Let the man see his daughter happy.

>>723278310
For years Valve framed Half-Life as this epochal series that changed the industry; they can't back down on that now.

>>723278374
kek
it makes sense though

>>723275865 (OP)
Yeah. That and if they made the new SDK available so we can have another renaissance of silly community mods for Valve to steal and turn into good games

>>723275865 (OP)
>Do people even still want a Half Life 3 at this point?
Absolutely
>What would it even look like a whole 20 years later?
>Could it ever measure up to the expectations people have for it now?
Good question. I’m not really privy as to what Valve’s technological muscles look like these days, so I couldn’t tell you if we’d get some sexy hyper realistic looking game, but I’d imagine they would spare no expense from the literal billions they make off of Steam for what’s easily the most anticipated sequel to a video game (alongside TES6 I guess). So, for the sake of my own insanity, I want to say we can expect something good.
>What would you want to see from it?
Most of all, I’d really like The Combine and G-Man to be explored further. It should be remembered that the forces Gordon fought off were the equivalent of the Combine’s low level security guards, and they still managed to roll over Earth in hours. We have confirmation that they’ve conquered entire universes, so we need to see more of them, no two ways about it. Then there’s G-Man, who we know they’re afraid and wary of, which has huge implications for the kind of ‘people’ his employers are. We of course need more cool monsters and aliens from the Xens and whatever else. Most importantly some kind of satisfying conclusion to Gordon’s story and the entire trilogy/saga, because I sincerely doubt we’re ever going to see a fourth game if by some miracle we get a third.

>>723278462
All they need to do is drop that pretense desue. I'm sure people wouldn't mind that Half-Life 3 isn't some super innovative game and instead just good enough to be fun

>>723275865 (OP)
40 minute long sex cutscene with Alyx at the end of it.

>>723280717
how do people have sex for 40 minutes and what is the point?
its like having your food served to you and then just sitting and smelling it for that long. i mean sure it smells good but like that's not what i'm here for

Just give Gordon a portal gun

>>723275865 (OP)
Can someone explain to me what the story/plot of these games is? I’m probably one of the 5 people who still haven’t played them but I’ve always been curious because they seemed cool.

>>723281443
Scientists open a portal to another universe and the planet gets invaded. Not really complex. However, the end of HL Alyx is quite a good twist on the story.

>>723281443
>but I’ve always been curious because they seemed cool.
Then just play them??

>>723275865 (OP)
>do people still want a AAA quality game in line with the very specific VALVE brand of FPS?
yes, you stupid fucking zoomer.

>>723281443
is it even possible to have a steam account and not have half life 1 and 2 on it?
i swear mine came with them when i created the account

>>723282072
i have no idea how
they have been free so many times, hell they were free again when they did the anniversary updates

Having played a lot of source games including black mesa before HL2 I have to say it was just kind of ok if a bit boring.

Valve should go all the way with Portal crossover for HL3. Not saying they have to put the humor in, just bring more Aperture's involvement into the story. And I certainly hope they're not scrapping the Borealis as a plot point.

>>723281786
don’t be an ass it’s a valid question there’s no denying that interest has at least somewhat died down and people have moved on with their lives since the early 2000s

>>723283587
>uhhh duh bwuh bwuh!!!
shut the FUCK up faggot

>>723281584
The interesting. Is that what happens in both games?
>>723281748
>>723281786
I’m a consolefag that lives in the middle of nowhere so it’s tough to get a PC

>>723275865 (OP)
>Do people even still want a Half Life 3 at this point?
Yes, why not. The story wasn't finished.
>What would it even look like a whole 20 years later?
Graphically wise? Probably a bit better than CS2. Gameplay wise? Dunno, less janky but who knows which gimmicks they will come with.
>Could it ever measure up to the expectations people have for it now?
Absolutely not.
What would you want to see from it?
I don't even know at this point to be honest. Just don't suck.

>>723283718
Half-Life 1 was on the PS2 and Half-Life 2 and the episodes are on the Orange Box on the PS3.

I just want Linux Source 2 SDK.
Let me make maps damn it.

>Do people even still want a Half Life 3 at this point?
I did not exactly want it back then, nor do I want it now.
But Valve doing a new engine = less UE5 trash
and that I do wnat

Aside from physics interactions and the story beats, HL2 is a downgrade compared to HL1. The unimaginative gun rosters, lack of enemy varieties, dumb enemy AI, etc., it's a hard game to love. HL3 should have no trouble improving upon everything, especially with Valve's current resources. The question is whether or not Valve learned their lessons. It seems like they did in Episode 2, but it's been a long time. I don't mind them exploring new avenues of game designs and novel gimmicks for it, but they should not forget that it's a first person shooter first and foremost.

>>723284501
Damn. I had no idea. I haven’t touched either of those platforms in forever. Maybe I’ll bust it out for this and look for it on the PS store.

What will the shitty vehicle section be this time?

>>723286208
Snowmobile with a gun like the jetski from the HL2 beta I'd reckon.

>>723286208
>>723286541
What were they in the first two games?

>>723287057
your mother

give me HL2: episode 3 with kelly bailey for the soundtrack. re-use hl2 models and workflows.

>>723287095
Fag

>>723277316
Episode 3 would've been so cool. Giant Combine shipyards scrapping aircraft carriers and battleships like trash, trains the size of skyscrapers, ice gun, blobs, I hope they're not wasting all those concepts.

>>723285551
The overall gunplay was lackluster compared to the original but calling the game a downgrade is far fetched
https://youtu.be/4ddJ1OKV63Q

>>723277228
>>723277241
>>723277317
How is Portal 2 in the same universe with the lush vegetation and Apeture Science facilities which are BIG undiscovered by combine? The same combine that were looking for local teleportation technology on Earth?

>>723276348
what if it did

>>723290149
The wheat field is a part of Aperture's facility. It's their version of solar panels that capture sunlight for the light bridge.

>>723290149
because everyone in aperture's facilities was killed or something idk

>>723290149
isn't portal 2 set like 10000 years in the future or something?

>>723285845
PS2 HL1 has an exclusive co-op campaign as well

I'd play HL3 if it ever comes out, but no I don't really care anymore. That time passed like 10-12 years ago. Most people who grew up playing HL2 in their childhood will be grey haired boomers by now.

>>723290986
Valve will probably retcon it in the next game or something. They tend to do that.

>>723284042
source 2 is fully capable of making graphics just as good as any other game.

cs2 is a competitive game so the visuals are good enough with a focus on clean and performant.

>>723275865 (OP)
Alyx pretty much proved it's happening eventually.
It won't live up to the hype, but then again absolutely nothing would.

>>723275865 (OP)
I mainly just want a new Valve game that isn't ASSFAGGOTS or any other form of esportsbait. Half-Life 3 is the likeliest candidate but I'd honestly prefer a new IP.

>>723291171
This. The hype levels will never be the same. People will play it, but that magical time of jerking yourself off silly over the prospect has passed.

>>723291662
With the drought of AAA single player FPS games right now, HL3 being a thing will be hype enough.

I would be fine if it was the same fucking Source engine game as HL2, honestly. The games were fun and the story was compelling.

The problem is all the writers bailed.

>>723294168
>The problem is all the writers bailed.
nigga

>>723294270
nigga what?

HL3 will be a 10/10 but /v/ will hate it for contrarian points.

if they do make it I hope it's a vr game

>>723290149
I got the theory that the Aperture from portal 1 and the one from 2 aren't in the same universe, i mean the one from 2 is so different and more colorfull compared to the industrial ghost town from 1, what im trying to say is that the point of separation between universes is ratman putting chell to sleep, the chell from 1 might be still sleeping in aperture while the chell we follow is one from a different universe, parallel universes aren't just fanfiction, they are the whole reason for why workshop maps exist, cave jhonson said it, even wheatley hints at it moments before glados is reactivated
>A human defeated her and then pretty much nothing happened for a long time and now we are scaping
He would atleast reference something related to the combine but looks like nothing really happened out there, aperture just got abandoned and there are even normal fauna out there instead of the xen abominations destroying all of nature (glados deer bait).
Hell portal 2 doesn't reference anything related to half life outside the borealis easter egg but that experiment happened prior the combine.

>>723294168
One of them came back. Dunno if Marc did as well though.

>>723291270
When was the last time they did something like that?

>HL1: military base
>HL2: distopian eastern european city Scifi
>HL3:??

>>723296727
Half-Life Alyx

>>723296818
The Arctic, Xen and Combine Overworld I'd imagine. Valve's been itching for the Arctic setting since HL2 began production.

>>723275865 (OP)
Half life was never good

I play Half Life 2 every 8-10 years or so, every time I'm shocked at how good it is. We did technically already get a sequel with Alyx but even that is completely mogged by HL2 VR

>>723296926
We definitely need the Overworld. More Combine stuff in general is desperately needed.

there's a 98.37% chance that the people who try to shill HL Alyx and consider it to be canon did not actually play the game
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

they should have called it "Half-Life Alyx.mp4" because this is how most fans of the series experienced the game

>>723299985
lol
so wait it’s noncanon then?

>>723275865 (OP)
John Valve has been sitting on his ass for far too long to reignite any mainstream interest in the story, the only way they can garner momentum and sales by now would be some groundbreaking new tech that pioneers new era. All hl games came out in a relative vacuum of notable competition for what they did (modding, story, physics, vr), I can't imagine anything fantastically amazing happening in tech in the next few years
I'm tentatively hopeful for project borealis, simply for wanting to see the hl2+episodes story end.
For a new game - set some years in the future, the protag is dumped in some Combine "zoo" city or continent where the various species they've subjected are all kept and left to their devices. Goal is to survive, escape, and maybe even find a way to fight back eventually.
Visually, the brutalist architecture of Combine mixed with artifical biomes for each of the species.
Gameplay - fps, somewhere between Prey 2 (the unreleased one), cp2077 and The Ascent in terms of action. Avoiding and sabotaging surveillance, doing side quests to unlock HEV suits and weapons, and upgrades for them.
Story - probably a new protagonist, although maybe gman could stick Gordon in there, too.
Pioneering feature - fuck knows. Voxel based destruction? AI/LLM buddies or villains that require the player to use free form dialogue? Picrel? Idk

>>723275865 (OP)
Do you think Valve has the balls to actually end Gordon's story? I mean no more cliffhangers, no more sequelbait.

Valve is busy developing Deadlock for at least 10 years, so don't expect hl3 in your lifetime

>>723286208
They hired multiple Forza Horizon devs specifically to fix how vehicles handle in the next Half-Life

>>723275865 (OP)
Valve is really going for it with their next VR headset, leaks have suggested their headset will allow you to play most games in your steam library in VR or at least 3D. The next HL game is supposed to be going for a dark, gritty, photo-realistic look. The VR headset has already entered mass production and has code strings in steam that suggest it's done. Many people at Valve have up and left the mysterious 'HLX' project and have gone on to work on different projects. It's coming next year and yes, people still care.

>>723294558
we've had redditors calling hl shit for a decade+ at this point, what's another title going to change

>Epistle 3 is 8 years old
Jesus christ.

>>723277136
You should play Portal 2. You don't miss much from 1 and the gameplay is much more smooth the entire time. Very fun 6 hour game.

>>723276256
I am 28 and played HL2 for the first time ever half a year ago to see what the hype was about. I played Black Mesa up until going through the portal to the alien world because BM wasn't complete at the time. That is all to say Half Life 2 is an incredibly great game that absolutely holds up. I beat it and instantly devoured the 2 dlcs because I had to see what else happened. All 3 has to do is have decent action segments and decent writing in-between those. People will be happy enough. Valve DOES have enough White men there to pump all their Steam money into HL3 being one of the best games of all time, but the balls in their court.

Ravenhome or whatever it was called had no business being that good, although that was some of it being a weird tonal shift and almost felt like a different game.

>>723277085
That is strange they retconned that in Alyx. I like games where all the good guys live but HL just didn't seem like it was going that way.

>>723281217
You're not supposed to have access to high speed porn so in the before before you would cum once a week or once a month because masturbation isn't THAT fun without it. And then when you get a girl you just edge yourself that way for an hour or 2, more than never.

>>723285551
This sounds like chatgpt. As well as, you're wrong retard. I'm the anon that played HL2 for the first time half a year ago. HL1 doesn't hold up as well. Almost no story beats. Jankier gameplay slightly. Can not stress how just moving forward in 2 you have more narrative backing the whole time.

>>723303851
>>723286208
The vehicle segments are kind of long but not overt problems. They handle well enough because you get /speed/ and it feels good.

Half-Life 1 is better than 2

I'm 34 and playing Half-Life for the first time. I just blew up the three tentacles to drop into that hole. I already want them to make Half-Life 3 based off of this much of the first.

>>723305116
Wrong.

>>723275865 (OP)
Half-Life is more exotic than Halo.

>>723305116
Correct.

>>723305116
HL3 will probably be better than 1 and 2 because modern Valve has infinite budget and no time pressure (everyone expects them to not release it, so they can work as long as they want to polish it to a perfect state). And the hardware got so much better that there is so much potential for new physics interactions and better enemy AI, bigger maps and cool gimmicks that are enjoyable. Very hyped for the next title, and its rumored to be released next year. I hope they also release the SDK, imagine another golden era of modding, GMOD2 style shenanigans etc

>>723304692
The Episode 2 ending is fantastic but Eli knowing about the G-Man is too good of a story hook to waste imo. I was feeling really apprehensive about HLA retcon, but I'm starting to come around to it.

>>723306214
Me too but now the question is are we still going straight to the Borealis (now alone, or with some rebels? Eli too old and weak to help), or we will start the game by being teleported somewhere completely different by the GMan?

>>723305580
i remember when i first got up to that part i thought it must be the final boss lol
my only experience with games before that were doom and duke nukem

i mean i kinda completely lost interest in the HL series and moved on but it's Valve so who knows, the possibility that they could surprise us is still there... i'd be expecting some cool new and unique new gameplay mechanics at the very least but i'm not holding my breath for anything else. Wait and See as usual.

>>723297061
your mom was never good either

>>723302923
DL is shaping up to be a failure isn’t it? Or at least not anywhere near as big as they were hoping it to be?
>>723303851
I can’t tell if you’re joking or not

>>723307063
Not joking its real

>>723306423
It's sort of tough for me to get a sense of how far I am into the game since there are no cutscenes to waste time and everything feels so connected like I could still backtrack to the start if not for the moments where you fall or something collapses. Even now in 2025, it feels unique and refreshing.

>>723275943
Man you're on the ball.

>>723306318
My theory is they're going to fit plenty of scrapped plot points from HL2 beta mixed in with Episode 3 draft. More militarized faction of the rebels are holding up in some parts of the Arctic in submarines and underwater bases and they're waiting for Freeman. The difference now is that the G-Man is directly involved in the conflict.

>>723307157
all these Forza engineers, what are they gonna do an open world with vehicle exploration?

>>723275865 (OP)
Honestly a part of me never wants Half-Life 3 to come out because I feel like it won't live up to expectations, and it will ruin the amazing sense of mystery surrounding the lore that has created so many discussions over the years. However, I also feel like a sequel to Half-Life 2 is inevitable and will probably happen eventually.

>>723307448
Probably semi open world sections ala Highway 17 / EP2 Muscle car. Maybe some snowmobile in the Arctic too

>>723307628
>Highway 17 / EP2 Muscle car
those sections are literally linear as fuck tho

>>723307547
If the game is shit at least we will have the new engine to make mods

>>723307682
Yes but you can either drive straight or explore the buildings nearby for supplies. In the next game i imagine these offroad sections will be much bigger and with more stuff to do (procedural side quests)

>>723307838
>procedural side quests
Why would you want that? The strength of those sections, especially H17, was that each house had its own story and challenge. You had poison zombie house, rollermine house, house where you get ambushed by Combine, etc.

>>723307907
Because the next game is gonna use the procedural system a lot, it is still designed by humans, but the AI Director (from Left 4 Dead) chooses how and where to spawn props / supplies / enemies. They want to make the game very replayable

>>723308031
I don't think they're going to apply the system all the way, other than in big sandbox maps or transitional maps that you encounter at the end of each game chapter.

Half life games are tech demos first and foremost, with Alyx being a VR tech demo. Episode 1&2 had a lot of boring bit important source engine improvements.
Episode 3 never got made because valve weren't interested in making a game simply to push the story forward.

I just want to see how the story ends. It's pretty obvious they wanted VR to be a bigger deal, and HL3 was going to be the flagship. VR will never be a big deal cause people want to sit down most of the time. I don't care about a gimic, just end it and move on. If you have to flex just up the environmental interaction stuff, most games are lazy on that subject.

>>723304631
That’s good to hear I suppose. I do agree that they definitely have the resources to make something stand out if they really want to. But let’s see I suppose.

At this point I would just want it to be an alternative game engine to use like the source engine was
tired of UE5

>>723304343
Funny enough I did get like halfway through 2 before dropping it for reasons I don’t remember. Doesn’t it end with you walking out into some kind of wheat field? I never really got what that was supposed to imply

>>723307157
>for a future title
Wow. I mean, that pretty definitively seals the deal right? What other game could they be referring to? I think the fact they’re going that far is a pretty good sign. Let’s hope for the best because it does sound solid going off of this.

>>723275865 (OP)
>Do people even still want a Half Life 3 at this point?
Even now, Half Life 3 may be without exaggeration the most anticipated and desired game of all time.

>>723275865 (OP)
At this point people just want a conclusion to the story

>>723307157
They also hired one of RAGE/Euphoria physics engine dev from Rockstar.

>>723307157
Keep in mind they didn't just hire this guy, they hired a bunch of devs from 2021 to 2023.

>>723275865 (OP)
What I'd want for them to do is just release Source 2 so people can make more games/mods with it

>>723307063
>DL is shaping up to be a failure isn’t it?
Not at all. If anything according to eceleb leaks, Valve is taking steps to make it popular among the unwashed masses that never saw the light of Dota by adding ARAM and payload.

>>723297061
I'm trans btw

>>723275865 (OP)
Half life 3 will be like Metro exodus where you have big open world levels, lots of room for vehicles

>>723275865 (OP)
It's kinda funny how dead Half-Life 3 is. Like no one actually wants it, they want HL2:E3, and it's completely taken over any idea of what a HL3 could be. People have been sitting with the Source era of games for so long that they've forgotten that a HL3 would be as foreign and disconnected as HL2 was to HL1. After 21 years of focusing on the Combine, they can't imagine a game without them.

>>723312505
>by adding ARAM and payload
You've been saying this for ages now

>>723312929
Payload was an old map leak, but super duper secret players said aram is being playtested now. Glacially slow updates even for Valve standards.

>>723275865 (OP)
it's pointless at this point

>>723312861
The idea of Half-Life series having different sci-fi adventures and settings for each mainline installment is dead the moment Episode 3 was abandoned. HL3 is essentially HL2.5 now.

I know people don't want to get their hopes up again considering how they've been burnt, but unless there's some sort of unforseen catastrophe at Valve, there's no way HL3 isn't coming. The way we've been getting HLX strings in other Source 2 games for years now directly mirrors how we got Alyx (HLVR) strings and CS2 strings in SteamVR Home/Destinations and Dota 2 until those games came out, and Valve's recent drought of real updates for their other games also mirrors the similar drought that happened while they brought all hands on deck to finish Alyx. Whether it'll actually be good or not is the question.

>>723313419
>and Valve's recent drought of real updates for their other games also mirrors the similar drought that happened while they brought all hands on deck to finish Alyx.
I wouldn't be surprised if the only people working on Deadlock right now are icefrog and the three guys from hopoo

>>723313419
Even without the code leaks the signs are out there in the open.
>Half-Life anniversary events twice in a row
>Valve showing Episode 3 stuff
>Gabe talking about how there's still room for innovation
>Recently added HL2 commentary with a teasing line about a future HL game

>>723312861
Aren’t the Combine core the universes lore now though?

Reiterating what other anons have said here,

I'm not a 12 year old kid anymore like I was when HL2 released. Now I am mid-30's boomer. I don't even play shootan games anymore. I would unironically prefer an Artifact sequel over a Half Life sequel.

>>723275865 (OP)
I dont even fucking care about the game at this point. All I want is to see is that Gabe can count to 3. Even if its a huge disappointment, which is ok, since everything in life is. I just want to be able to forget about the whole thing.

>>723281217
In a normal, healthy, loving relationship. You actually care about the other persons experience and so you go through the effort of fucking their brains out. Why? Because its fun to dominate them with my cock, an ego boost when they are overwhelmed and say porn tier things subconsciously, and I enjoy the intimacy. However, dont over do it too often because the flesh is weak. 15 mins is the sweet spot for a work day.

>>723277213
this. fuck

>>723275865 (OP)
>Do people even still want a Half Life 3 at this point?
yes. i know it's been over a decade now but every time there's a new (fake) leak, i'm ready to wake up and smell the ashes.

>>723275865 (OP)
Just a reminder to anons ITT that HLX is real, that valve has been working on a new half life game for years since Alyx, and that you will live to see HL3 release. Just be patient.

>>723309152
Mornin', doctor Kleiner

>>723275865 (OP)
>What would you want to see from it?
if I'm playing half life 3, and my nigga Adrian 'Race X fucking shits' Shephard reappears, I'm gonna lose my mind.

Also some kind of an orchestral reinterpretation of Triage at dawn would be pretty neat

>>723317204
Who got the copyright for muh boi Shephard?
Please tell me it's not fucking Randy the greasy "code your own engine" bastard Pitchford

>>723313419
this. it's real. I don't just want to believe, I believe. Also without going full "HL3 is being announced tomorrow", I need to stress to anons reading this that the current state of affairs with regards to HLX leaks is a big deal
>Years of HLX leaks
>suddenly about 1-2 months ago all the leaks dry up
>no major updates to any of their other games for the last few months
>confirmed reports that most devs working on other projects have suddenly been pulled in to get all hands on deck on something else
The reason why this matters is that all of this exactly, verbatim, what happened prior to HLA's release. And the best part? It all happened on the same time schedule in terms of time of year -
>HLA leaks dry up by mid-late 2019
>2-3 months of update/leak drought
>suddenly, november 2019 HLA announced
That said in my heart of hearts I'm keeping myself with zero expectations whatseover. (but it's REAL)

>>723317895
*all of this IS exactly

>>723317895
i'm ready to be fucking hurt again.

>>723317895
Leaks haven't dried up though, the big CS2 and Deadlock updates two/three months ago had yet another huge batch of HLX and engine development strings and there's been a few extra things related to features we already know about scattered here or there since then.

>half life 3 starts
>time portal fuckery
>gordon is still 28 years old
>alyx is now 18
>still got all her skills and memory
>but now also got teenage hormones and down bad for gordon

>>723317794
Valve owns the whole thing. It's why they allowed Arkane to make a Half-Life game about Adrian, before canceling it that is.

>>723275865 (OP)
>Do people even still want a Half Life 3 at this point?
I don't. I played HL2 on release and thought it was overhyped too.
Maybe if it were a VR game or something?

I just want source 2 sdk. I don't care about the mediocre FPS they will put out.

>>723302923
Are you saying half life 3 development is deadlocked?

>>723275865 (OP)
The Half Life games were in essence elaborate tech demos so we won't get 3 until they invent new tech to show us

>>723275865 (OP)
What's the point now that the likes of Viktor Antonov is dead, with Bailey not even at Valve, and the current political climate infecting everything anyway? They didn't even put Meryl's voice in the last game that they outsourced to those faggots over in Campo Santo.

The ship for Half-Life 3 and Episode 3 before it sailed at the turn of the last decade. Especially since Valve was stuck with obsolete technology by the time the late 2000's rolled around and kept it on life support until 2020.

I'm going out for another walk while the sun sets out here in my beloved Eastern European mudhole while listening to Episode 2's soundtrack again.

>>723286208
The muscle car in Episode 2 had great production quality and was a joy ride, fuck you.

>>723315427
That’s too short. 25-30 minutes seems more reasonable

>>723319851
Actually none of the vehicles were fun to drive, minus the Airboat simply because they made a playground for it. I put the muscle car in dead last because there was no coinvent way for gnome transport.

>>723320118
No ones back could handle that for long unless youre a teen to early 20's.

>>723275865 (OP)
Most of all, we really need the threesome between Gordon, Chel and Alyx to happen. Show them happily in a relationship at the end with kids. They deserve to be happy.

>>723290986
It was never confirmed how far into the future it was set, just that a long time has passed. So it could be 50 years, 250 years, but I doubt it would be 10,000 as stuff doesn't last that long.

don't care about OP, I just want to post this cool hl2 themed desktop rice

>>723317895
Hi Tyler

>>723294168
That's the exact opposite of what happened, the writers didn't bail, the gameplay designers did
Hell, Laidlaw left Valve because his last ditch effort to get a Half-Life game made, Borealis, never got off the ground

>>723275943
Based artifact schizo

>>723275865 (OP)
I'll be honest with you
Half Life was the first game I saw in my life(yes, zoomer here) and what stuck with me the most was the design, yes, the industrial design mixed with alien horror and first person perspective. The way I see it, most players liked Half Life back in 1998 wasn't because it was really revolutionary(that title belongs to Quake), but because the level design, the audio mix, voice acting, special effects, the gun feedback and attention to detail was unparalleled at the time to anything on the market, even Unreal couldn't really compete with Half Life despite even besting it in some aspects
Half Life became famous because it was a nearly perfect game, Half Life 2 on the other hand gained fame thanks to it's engine gimmicks, atmosphere, world building and lore, since such scale had never been attempted for a single player FPS before, which is why Half Life 2 build a cult following not only with games but with the engine and mods too
Most of anons who got too old and disappointed in life to enjoy videogames anymore will disagree and I totally understand the whole "HL3 is not real/it will be a failure/don't care and Half Life was never good" mood since Valve really took their sweet time to return from the store with the milk and cigarettes
But the modern videogame industry in it's current state DESPERATELY needs their messiah to save them one last time, from the crisis of talent, creative freedom and strive for innovation
We don't deserve Half Life 3, but we need it more than ever, perhaps Valve was waiting for this exact moment all along
I shall eagerly wait for the reveal(even if it's not real), hell, I'll even quit the internet for some time to ensure that I'll completely avoid any leaks and spoilers regarding the game, after all, Half Life 3 can only happen once in a lifetime

>>723318080
that's what I said anon, the leaks have dried up SINCE THEN. And incidentally a 2-3 ish month gap in major updates and leaks is exactly what preceded the HLA trailer...

>>723296727
Alyx. They retconned Eli's death.

>>723321659
based fellow zoomieGOD appreciator of kino

>>723321659
I'm gen Z as well, I picked up half life in late 2017 having played not that many videogames besides minecraft and No Mans Sky beforehand. It blew my fucking mind. By the end of the year I'd burned through basically everything in the original series up to HL2E2, and have since also finished Black Mesa (which is actually my overall favourite half life experience, controversially). This series really is special, and I frankly don't quite understand why, I get obviously how revolutionary the games were at the time they came out but there is something enduring and timeless about them that means someone could play them in twenty years for the first time and still fall in love. I sincerely hope I live to see valve give us closure. Call it cringe but this means a lot to me for some reason, and I'm the first guy to take the piss out of people who get overly attached to media slop.
>mfw it's already been eight years since I first played half life

Just want to remind everyone that all of the HLX strings and "leaks" come from SteamDB dumping and tracking the strings of Source 2 games and their updates into these repos.
https://github.com/SteamDatabase/GameTracking-Dota2
https://github.com/SteamDatabase/GameTracking-CS2
https://github.com/SteamDatabase/GameTracking-Deadlock
This is where Tyler and Gabefollower and all those other parasitic e-celebs get their supposedly "insider" info from. They just read through the commits whenever a major update to one of these games happens.

>>723322304
>Half Life: Ɛpsilon

>>723318778
I'm excited for HLX but I also really wanna see the SDK
We've been stuck with Half Life mods having no enemy variety and half the weapons being garbage for 2 decades. If only there had been more time between HL1 and HL2 more people would've made mods with 1's excellent framework.

>>723313419
You’re forgetting that Valve still hasn’t announced the Raising the Bar reprint to be on sale yet. It could easily be announced alongside HL3 and a HL3 art book.

>>723321659
Polish 23 year old zoomer here, HL2 always stuck out to me the most because it felt the most like home in a lot of ways because of that mix of industrial-nature aesthetic. The shooting and whatnot was eh, but the environments and theme is what always stuck with me. The music and sound design especially as well. Looking back on it having broken out of the Valve game bubble many years later, it definitely isn't as technically impressive as I thought it was but it still has a down to earth appeal to me. And it taught me how to do 3d graphics and games.

>>723322449
>Half Life 1
>Half Life 2
>Half Life 2 episode 1(3rd game)
>Half Life 2 episode 2(4th game)
>Half Life Alyx(VR spinoff, not a mainline game)
>Half Life Ɛ(5th game)
GAAAAAAAAAAAAABEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNN

>>723275865 (OP)
Yes I do, more than Gabe Newell wanted to be Ringo.

My favorite part of the HLX leaks is the destruction mechanics. That instead of walking into something like a warehouse where enemies are waiting to ambush you, you can just blast open your own entrance and catch them by surprise

Episode 2 was the best one and I am pissed it ended right there when the level design and gameplay hit its stride.

>>723322931
>That instead of walking into something like a warehouse where enemies are waiting to ambush you, you can just blast open your own entrance and catch them by surprise
And vice versa, can't wait to shit my pants when xen gorilla bursts from a nearby wall and kills me with a giant rock in one throw

>>723321659
Dont forget that the game RARLY takes control away from the player. It feels so nice being able to look at other things while they are dumping exposition. I absolutely hate constantly needing to stop and read a note, stop and listen to an audio log, or have the controls forced away from me ever 5 seconds. Its nice being able to play the game and get the story at the same time.

I remember back in the day how we used to talk about what cool new physics, interactivity, and destruction we could get in our next gen games. Not RTX or AI upscaling crap. Especially for HL3 and what it might look like.
https://youtu.be/F-uB7Goc1wk

>>723323287
>I absolutely hate constantly needing to stop and read a note, stop and listen to an audio log
This is why I never finished any Bioshock game, just searching for all the backstory bread crumbs put me to sleep
Only Deus Ex and System Shock did right, by rewarding the player with useful info or a code for a safe with unique loot

>>723323870
Modern devs surprise me because its like they never played a videogame. As time goes on I find that more likely. If I taught game design, I would just have people play good games and to then talk about what makes them good.

>>723322601
>23 year old
I’m one year older than you so you owe me sex

Holy fuck the people in this thread are dumb, you would swear half of you are still living in 2015. They have quite literally been developing Half Life 3 since 2020 and its coming out soonish.

>>723302923

Deadlock started dev in 2018 and is pretty much done, the majority of devs are on HLX.

>>723326354
Deadlock is nowhere near done and saying it started development in 2018 leaves out that it rebooted development twice

>>723327478

Yeah, its like 90% done, what exactly do you think is left to do? Is CS2 fully developed in your opinion?

>>723322352
>supposedly "insider" info
nigger tyler's never pretended to have insider knowledge, he's always been pretty open about this being publically accessible info. And he was right about HLA. Cope.

>>723323287
I don't play a lot of FPS games but I never appreciated Half Life's insistence to never go into third person for cutscenes until I tried Doom Eternal. It's so immersion breaking whenever that happens.
I just feel like all Valve really needed to do was add some way to hurry NPCs along if you don't want to see them talk in Red Letter Day/Black Mesa East and it would've worked great.

>>723296926
>>723299446
>combine overworld
if you want a pretty good look at what that would look like check out vidrel
https://youtu.be/lJOZN3YhLtY
This is EXACTLY how I imagine it in my head

>>723327674
There's a ton of unfinished content and heroes and the game has only one map and one game mode
The game is very obviously unfinished which is why it's not even an open beta yet
>>723327674
>Is CS2 fully developed in your opinion?
Not even close lol it's still missing half of what CS:GO had

>>723320374
>because there was no coinvent way for gnome transport.
motherfucker you just gave me flashbacks

>>723320374
>I put the muscle car in dead last because there was no coinvent way for gnome transport.
and that's why we have mods
https://gamebanana.com/mods/614544

>>723328621
You didn't beat the game
The gnome transport really isn't that bad. Half the time you can just punt it far ahead of you anyways

most people don't want HL3. it's vocal minority of boomers being loud online and PCvegans that think half life is Valve's super mario
nobody under 35 cares about shart life

>>723328365
I cringed as I typed it.
>>723328621
>mods
>released two months ago.
10 years too late.

This game is getting shadow dropped on November 17th but I'm sure all the regular Valve drones and 'real' journalists will make noises about it a week or two before.

>>723276348
>it cant possibly live up to the hype
It is gayest excuse possible, just make a good game. Valve showed with HL Alyx that they don't really afraid or care about public opinion.

>>723328916
>breaking: random anonymous internet user makes bullshit claim, more news at 11.

>>723329384
nice boomer humor

>hire an entire new studio for Deadlock
>updates are still about 5 times slower than what was announced last year
Everyone with a heartbeat at Valve is working on HLX

>>723328836
/v/ is this true????? wtf……..

>PCveg-
You'll never force this meme by the way
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>>723330087
yes it's true. try asking a young person IRL what they think of half life. you will get the flouride stare

>>723328836
me when I lie on the internet
>>723330534
this is a non-point because you can replace "half life" in that question with literally anything and get pretty much the same response. Gen alpha in particular is completely cooked.

>>723330534
No they'd start talking about how Gordon and Benrey is their favorite ship

>>723330087
No because Skibbity toilet->2 hour Skibbity toilet lore vid->Gmod->Half Life. There is your algo.

They gotta bring him back for HL3 to live up to the hype.

>>723330663
>zoomers don't care about any game
>so that means half life is actually popular with young people because.... because their opinion is le wrong
sybau unc nobody cares about shart life

>>723323627
If the datamined strings are anything to go by, HL3 is definitely going to try pushing physics forward again.

>>723275943
Lol, you artifact posters never make me laugh etc.

>>723327736
nigga some playtester gave him a pre-launch build before release
thats why he knew everything
and he was retarded enough to show himself playing it on a livestream

>>723332697
This. Fucking this. HLA OST sucked ass.

>>723333192
I'm not saying "and therefore it's actually popular with young people", I'm saying whether or not it's popular with young people doesn't matter because nothing meaningful rn is popular with young people past a certain scale
that and I'm 21 nigga

I’m a zoomer and I love half life. I grew up with those silly SFM memes and am very nostalgic for them and enjoyed the half life 3 never joke that permeated the entire internet in the late 2000s/early 2010s.

>>723335641
then you agree nobody cares about half life except tragic old men chasing their high school days

>>723335936
You sure seem to care about Half Life considering you've been spamming across the whole internet about how much it sucks for years.

>>723335618
It had some strong tracks but overall just wasn't atmospheric enough. But it wasn't as much of an offense as shit like the Striders now sounding like transformers for some reason.

>>723336062
3 or 4 posts in one thread... ok unc. keep coping

>>723335618
>>723336138
just get the guys who did the black mesa soundtrack on board, better soundtrack than even HL2 at times.

>>723327736
Did you forget the whole fiasco where he tried to say L4D3 was in active development only for Valve to say he was full of shit or what?

>>723276486
THIS!

>>723275943
kys it was never funny

>>723336293
>better soundtrack than even HL2 at times
weak bait
black mesa soundtrack is good but it is not a substitute for bailey's music and sound design working in tandem

>>723328836
>nobody under 35 cares about shart life
i am 22 years old and when i am 35 you willl move the goalposts again to make a similar claim

>>723338163
>implying 4chan shitposters live that long

>>723322481
>Raising the Bar reprint to be on sale yet
It's supposed to be this year, what is taking them? I want their information on Episode 2's development.

>>723338268
Presumably they're waiting to release it with HL3 since it contains dev info on the original attempts at Episode Three.

>>723338163
so you're saying in 13 years this game still won't release?

>>723275865 (OP)
Yes.

Kinda unrelated but I thought Epistle 3 was absolute dogshit. I have no idea why people took it as gospel for the HL conclusion. The Dyson Sphere reveal was kino, admittedly, but everything else in the draft was just terrible. The ending basically just saying "Actually everything you did up to now was pointless because the combine are basically omnipotent and there’s no defeating them lol" is Star Wars sequel trilogy levels of retarded. As much as I didn’t care for Half Life Alyx, I'm kinda glad Valve opted for a do over with Alyx's ending.

>>723276348
what hype? all i want is a conclusion to the story.

>>723338595
I am glad that they basically deconfirmed going back in time to stop the Resonance Cascade. It really should end with "We cut off Earth from the Combine, now we have to try to rebuild despite the Xen infestation making things difficult and hope to god the sketchy-as-hell vortigaunts don't take this opportunity to betray us"

>>723338073
I'm dead serious anon, especially the xen soundtrack. I'd say overall the HL2 soundtrack wins due to sheer creativity/innovation (even moreso when factoring in when it came out) but joel nielsen's work manages to hold its own over quite a few tracks.

>>723338595
you know now that you mention it I do kind of agree. I suppose I just found the dyson sphere part cool enough that I didn't mind the rest, but yeah, the rest seemed pretty fucking weak all things considered.

meanwhile HLA's ending is like "get in nigger we're going to kill the gman with a crowbar"

>>723321383
holy fuck, I think I remember seeing this back in the day

>>723275865 (OP)
Half-Life 2 was very Reddit coded. Go back and listen to the characters talk and interact and you realize Half-Life 2 was not a good sequel. The original Half-Life was the only good game in the series.

>>723341183
It's those playtesters who got bummed out by how dreary the HL2 beta was. Valve's playtesters ruin everything

>>723275865 (OP)
Well, Skyrim is 15 years old and TES VI wont be coming out for 2-3 more years.
So it's more less the same. Would you say that for TES VI?

>>723276348
bongo
south carolina
bongo

>>723338254
There are uncs claiming to be in their 40s all the time though

>>723275943
Based..... so.. fucking... zased..

>>723341441
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhVsQI3cIw4

HL3 will happen. I believe, bros.

Never actually realized he had green eyes, I remember them being blue.

Why was the combine so scared of Freeman even at the beginning of the game? Did they know his Xen exploits? How would they have known?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAfdegijras

>>723344580
They weren't scared of him then, they realized that he didn't exist in their systems and to the Combine if you don't exist in their systems then you must be a rebel.
However, they definitely got scared when Gordon teleported into the Citadel because Breen knows what he did at Black Mesa and holy shit he just teleported into Combine Earth HQ and bypassed all the defenses.

>>723344580
>>723344892
From what I remember Daddy Breen also knew something about G-Man, so there's that too

How did the Combine even manage to catch G-Man that one time
There’s so much stuff they really need to expand on

>>723345137
The implication in-game as well as what early concept art shows is that they used the Vault to take out a huge chunk of the apartment complex he was in, froze time or did something fucky with it around the thing and then took the whole chunk into their prison. As for how they knew he was there and what they needed to counter him and the like, who knows. Some people think the G-Man allowed himself to get captured.

I would rather HL3 was something else entirely, like HL2 was different to HL1.
Ideally, they would set it on another planet, and have it be a populated planet, with friendly NPCs you talk to, as opposed to Zen.
How you get from the end of Episode 2, to that is the challenge. I'd suggest just timeskip, and let the audience fill in the gaps.

>>723344892
nah they definitely knew who he was, because mere moments after breen initially sees gordon teleport the first time, as he's on the phone to the combine, he doesn't take any time to explain who gordon is, he just says he was sure it was "gordon freeman" as if the combine would already know exactly who that is. We also know that breen knows about the gman >>72334498, that the combine does too (duh), and that the combine had some understanding of what happened in xen (and that effectively one dude from earth crossed the borderworld and killed the nihilanth, an alien demigod, single handedly). And now suddenly the orange nigger appears in the most secure room of the citadel out of nowhere? no shit they're gonna freak out

>>723346176
*meant to quote >>723344987

>>723341183
Both Half Life games are pretty zany. it's baked into the DNA of the series.
>haha, silly voice scientist got exploded

>>723345137
>>723345519
idk nigga what's the only thing in the franchise that ever managed to slow the gman down