Thread 723332969

>2025
>still not voice acting

This is the one thing nu-pokemon got right. Voice acting killed video games as the precursor to movie games.

>>723332969 (OP)
>ESL angry because they can't afford pokemon nor a Switch 2
Every. Fucking. Time.

>>723332969 (OP)
use case for voice acting?

>>723332969 (OP)
Giving you lot the internet has to be one of the biggest mistakes in human history.

>>723332969 (OP)
How us voice acting going to make a scene less cringe?

>>723333070
Agreed. Fuck voice acting.

voice acting is pointless in the vast majority of traditional role playing games, the vast majority of adventure games, the vast majority of platformers, etc. i will never understand the normalfag desire to listen to horrible actors drone on for 30 seconds longer than it takes you to read a text box.

>>723332969 (OP)
That game is from 2019

I'd agree but Pokemon also leans way too hard on these weird thematic moments that call for voice acting. Like don't zoom in on an NPCs mouth as they OPENSHUTOPENSHUTOPENSHUT and browbeat me for expecting something

You guys have weird opnions on voice acting. No I don’t want to play a fighting game where the characters are mute or a racing game without the 3 2 1 GOOOO.

>>723332969 (OP)
Games should have voice acting... IF the voice acting is good.

Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom have abysmal english voice acting, and it's Nintendo's biggest game that isn't Mario. You think the english voice acting in a Pokemon game wouldn't be fucking atrocious?

>>723333723
more voice acting means more need for more writing which means bad writing and bad voice acting.

Voice acting is cringe and a mistake.

>>723332969 (OP)
There's a time and place for voice acting and this cutscene was one of those. I don't even think there was music, but I haven't played in years.

>>723333517
That Frenchy ass Expedition RPG would have been worse without voice acting, but I would agree traditional RPGs with sprite work and text boxes do not require voice acting at all. The FFT remake has pretty good voice acting and it's still entirely frivolous because of how the game is presented.

>>723333723
They're jeets.

Here's the scene you retards are defending.
https://youtu.be/ta7El0vUziI?feature=shared
A sound department made sure to include the sound of shoes tapping the ground and nondescript cheering, and microphone feedback....

>>723332969 (OP)
Gen 10 doesn't need voice acting IF THEY STOP INCLUDING CHARACTERS THAT FUCKING SING
they had this shit down all the way back in gen 5, fucking embarrassing.

>>723333517
>the vast majority of adventure games
Are you using "adventure games" to mean things other than actual adventure games here, because fucking nobody plays the original non-talky versions of anything which got voiced dialogue added, even if they have to go through hoops like extracting the files for Secret of Monkey Island Special Edition.

>>723333070
Voice acting actually made dialogue sequences a lot shorter due to memory usage.

>>723334117
>punk performance
It would have just been unintelligible groaning anyway

>>723334117
Yeah maybe just don't include scenes that thematically should have vocals if you're not going to have any vocals. Pokemon team being inept, many such cases.

>>723333723
I don't consider single lines to be voice acting. Do you think Super Metroid has voices?

>>723334117
>not even fucking dialogue boxes
what the fuck

>>723334117
Hilarious part is campy, "bad" voice acting would have made this scene better, because he's supposed to be some shithead punk. Don't even need the entire game to have voice acting, just clearly needed a sound bite here.

>>723334252
???
storage space is not an issue anymore, especially not when audio is super easy to compress without noticeable audio loss. Even 320kbps mp3 is only 200-250mb for a whole hour of audio.

>>723333070
>>723333206
>>723333287
>>723333475
>>723333517
>>723333958
>voice acting is le bad ahktually
ABSOLUTE STATE OF POKEFAGS LMAO

>>723332969 (OP)
People LOOOOOOOOOOOVE this. See >>723333070. There’s also the argument that VA would open the door to English VAs, who are misaligned with the ideological tenants of /v/. It is also disrespectful to Japanese culture for a Japanese product to be voiced in anything other than its native language, which is why we ALL supports subs only. But a Pokemon VA would inevitably have multiple languages, which we do not support. We will boycott if Pokemon adds VA.

>>723334552
>VOICE ACTING IS BAD ACTUALLY
Yes

>>723334552
It is.
It bloats the budget for minimal gain. Back in my days I used to read long ass paragraphs of text in RPGs.

>>723332969 (OP)
Voice acting is shit and unnecessary in games like RPGs unless it's Bethesda/Bioware sloppa.
Still mad Owlcat's adding it to their crpgs going forward for example. Genuinely fucking gay. Waste of money and resources.

>>723333517
This.

So, quick question for the anti-VA movement. Why is this only being publicized now? Games have had voice acting for 20+ years and no one has raised much of an issue until now. We were all huge fans of Expedition 33 and countless other voiced games. So what happened between yesterday and today that caused us to change our mind?
>b-but we always hated it!
So you hate Expedition 33 and refuse to play it?

>>723334552
>trying to argue with pokefags
they're either baiting you or being complete retards. no inbetween

>>723333723
We ain't talking about voice acting in fighting games, hoss.

>>723332969 (OP)
I'm fine with Pokémon not having voice acting but they've GOT to stop adding mute singer/rapper gym leaders, or do it like Roxie and have them actually sing SOMETHING even if it's gibberish.
Also they need to put proper end credits music back in and not have literally who Amerimutt sing generic bullshit like in SV

>Pokemon Z-A comes out
>suddenly all forms of VA are bad and should be removed from games

>>723334252
no? one of the biggest factors in size in recent games is uncompressed audio, both for music and the 15 languages they come from these days

>>723334732
back in your day the paragraphs were well written

>>723334117
lmao, poketards deserve this.

>>723334817
It's just a bunch of poser contrarians. Like how /v/ has people always parroting that gameplay matters more than anything else, but then turn around and bitch about the graphics or story even when the gameplay is in fact good, that or move goalposts/lie and say actually it's bad.

I'm not defending it but I can't pretend I care that much about it either. This series has so many way fucking worse problems they need to be ironing out before getting VAs.

>>723334817
one of the biggest complaining points about fallout 4 was the voice protagonist (which definitely wasn't helped by the terrible dialogue options)

>>723332969 (OP)
nah, pokemon did just fine without VA in two decades.
Only a bunch of babies give a shit about "muh voices in muh game".

>Gen 10
Yeah I don't think so Tendie.

>>723334552
Yes. Remember botw? Dubbed Zelda is still giving me nightmares, what a horrible fucking idea

>>723334916
>suddenly

just because you've ignored the steady decline of quality in writing and voice acting, doesn't mean it wasn't happening

>>723332969 (OP)
Please god, no fucking voice acting. Zelda got Voice acting after three decades and it was abysmal dogshit. NO FUCKING VOICE ACTING.

>>723332969 (OP)
They had voice acting before though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeAHPcx49OY

>>723333517
Retard, many of the most liked rpgs benefited massively from VA. Baldur's Gate 2 and Planescape Torment, and the Soul Reaver games alone would probably not be anywhere near as memorable with its characters without the voices in those games. Nobody would remember "updated my journal", or any of Irenicus's unhinged rants and speeches.

>>723332969 (OP)
>reading is too painful for my stunted subhuman brain

>>723335442
>reading

>>723334117

>>723334117
thats really weird. someone made a decision to leave it like this.

>>723333070
True. I have no idea how Pokemon does it, but my favorite solution how Animal Crossing does it.

>>723332969 (OP)
The problem with Pokémon isn't that it doesn't have voice acting, its that feels like it should have voice acting, especially legends arceus, the cutscenes have this odd pacing like its waiting for the characters to finish speaking

>>723335392
For me it's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuNfk9MpqLM

>>723335362
So why didn’t you denounce Expedition 33 or the other 4chan GOTYs when they released with voice acting? Why did you wait until Pokemon Z-A came out? I have never seen the argument of “games should never have voice acting” in my entire 20 years of using this site before now.

>>723334117
100.000.000.000 dollar franchise, btw.

>>723332969 (OP)
>NOOOO I NEED THE SHITTY CALIFORNIAN ACTORS TO READ THE DIALOGUE FOR ME
Voice acting is one of the most fucking retarded normie complaints about Pokemon.

>>723334817
>movement
Not everything is a fucking movement. God, you people are insufferable
>Why is this only being publicized now?
People have been arguing this since at least the Gamecube days where consoles no longer had a small cartridge size as an excuse
>We were all huge fans of Expedition 33 and countless other voiced games
I always mute voice acting in games that have it since it interferes with me reading the text. And reading is way faster

>>723334817
I haven't played E33 and never said I'm a fan. with that said, I don't think games necessarily need them

>>723335392
dog ass!!

>>723334117
I'm not defending this scene. if it needs vocals (and that definitely does) then it should have it

>>723335743
>someone in the comments complaining about the scene OP posted
kek

>>723334117
Why's OP talking about 2025 if this is from Pokemon Sword?

>>723335392
>>723335743
Soul

>>723332969 (OP)
No voice acting. Fake sounds like Monster Hunter and Animal Crossing at most.

>>723335350
What stopped you from switching to Japanese audio you retard

>>723332969 (OP)
>no voice acting
based

>>723333141
>leave the multibillion dollar company alone

>>723336065
so true sister

>>723334117
at least i was expecting they animal crossing' it. wonder whats keeping them from going full AI slop.

Just now, on the day of the release of Pokemon Z-A, people are admitting they mute the voice acting of games. Not when those games came out. Today. But sure, it’s a coincidence this all happens when the new Pokeslop comes out and it’s missing VA in a very glaring and noticeable way.

>>723334552
the only people more skilled in mental gymnastics are troons.

>>723335993
That's all I'm getting at. If you don't want Voice acting in your game, if that's not the vision, so be it. But let's cut the shit and stop jamming these dialogue centric/people centric animated cutscenes with close ups on peoples faces as they proceed to not make a fucking sound.
DQ manages by using a Morse code sounding beedebeepdebeepbeepbeep that matches the cadence of spoken word, but I'm also not zoomed in on a guys face as he does some animated flourish and mimes shouting in some weirdly stilted and quiet cutscene

>>723334139
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwHrQdC02FY&list=RDWwHrQdC02FY&start_radio=1

over 20 years earlier

>>723334117
Yeah the problem isn't the lack of VA but the fact that they made a cutscene that REQUIRES VA without having it. Other games have done concert scenes without VA just fine, it just needs to be executed differently

>>723335771
I like how your only examples are games that were provably astroturfed.

anons, find you a person who defends and supports you like pokefags do these shitty games

No Serena. No buy.

>>723336607
it's easier than you think. you can afford 23 cents a day per indian shill, can't you?

>>723333070
100%
VAs are on the same plane of annoyance as localizers, total death

>>723335392
>>723335743
see this is soul. You dont need to do full voice acting, just a few voice lines and that helps a lot.

>Z-A comes out without VA
>immediately people are asking for mass murder of all voice actors
It is a cult.

>>723334552
>assuming everyone who responded is a pokefag
Retard

>>723336951
>people are asking for mass murder of all voice actors
But /v/ has been doing this for years

>>723335419
they werent dumb enough to voice every single line
Soul Reaver isnt even RPG, its short action game

>>723337025
/v/ has only been calling for the removal of compromized and/or entitled VAs, and more importantly, of pozzed localizers and troonslators.

>>723336931
>pokemon fans deserve better
No. No they don't. They bought fucking scarlet/violet. They deserve every shitty game they get.

>>723337316
This, they bought SV, and then seriously said "Well actually it sold better than Red and Blue therefore it's good"

>>723333070
Voice acting killed gaming for 2 reasons:
Cost: AI can basically negate this. Cost had direct negative effect of limiting options which lead to quest markers instead of descritive directions; and dialogue wheels with 4 options that all get you the same response. Also very repetitive background NPCs.
Tedium: Instead of the pointless exposition being speedread in half a second it now gets acted out and slowly read so you have to go do something else for 5-10 minutes every time it happens. Garbage like Final Fantasy now has 20 hours of this where you aren't playing a game.

>>723337936
not involved with this conversation, but scarlet and violet are better games than red and blue.

>>723333723
Racing doesn't have a guy saying 3 2 1 GOOOO. It has lights and/or a flag man. You wouldn't hear a guy over engines revving. Some random 'voice of god' would be complete immersion breaking.

>>723333932
The problem with writing is it should be a very minor job done in a week, but companies want to maintain employees so then they have this dead weight pumping out continuous garbage to justify their existence.

Post games that are only beloved due to their VA

>>723338330
eh. In the absolute sense? I'd listen to an argument. Comparatively and relative to their environments? Fuck no

>>723334537
Game companies never compress audio for a variety of reasons, all of them bad.

>>723334817
crpg tards are mindbroken by it because more and more developers are implementing it

>>723334117
You could have just posted a webm.

>if they add voice acting then they might make $50k less profit when selling the shoveware tier game for $70.
Tendies are never beating those cultist allegations. Ever.

>>723333070
Thing is Gamefreak is giving the worst of both worlds, fully animating unskippable movie length cutscenes while barely bothering making decent presentation with dragging models around, dragging the camera around and, most importantly, no voice acting.
If there were VA it would at least come off as endearing.

>>723337005
Voice acting in games has been the standard since the PS1 era. Once again, Pokemon games are proven to be 20 years behind the curve, so obviously only pokefags like you could say that lacking a 5th generation feature is a good thing actually.

>>723332969 (OP)
Game Freak should PAY VOICE ACTORS WHAT WE'RE FUCKING WORTH!!!!

>2025
this is from three years ago though
they should've at least added animal crossing type of noises

>>723333070
fpbp

>>723332969 (OP)
Voice acting is only any good in immersive sims, stealth games and RTS.
In practically everything else full voice acting is a total meme.

>>723338941
Pokemon had a leg to stand on until XY onward where were forced to play these faggy effeminate kids with faggy effeminate friend groups and all these weird social interactions.
Up til then you were just a silent protagonist type who had loose acquaintances doing their own thing. Now every game is "THIS IS [RIVAL] THEY ARE YOUR RIVAL AND BEST FRIEND AND YOU ARE SUPPORTIVE AND WANT TO HELP THEM GROW! YOU WILL SIT HERE FOR 15 MINUTES WHILE THEY SILENTLY REITERATE" aww jeez guys I wanna be the best but I just don't know sometimes" BEFORE YOUR CHARACTER PUTS YOUR HAND ON THEIR SHOULDER TO COMFORT THEM

>>723338754
VA work is usually some of the first shit that gets done as well after the script is finalized and during game production, so it's not even like it extends development time to have it. Of the top 10 problems Pokemon games have, no voices probably doesn't even make the list though, so it also feels like complaining about a broken toe when the rest of the foot is in ruins.

>>723332969 (OP)
How would Marnies voice sound like?

>>723338501
companies before
>fly out employees on trips to get inspired
>build close relationships between employees through well meaning integration
>anyone's ideas are considered and devs are free to play around with them

companies now
>write/dev/draw for 8 hours a day every day until release, 15 minute breaks
>offer fruit fridays or once in a blue moon pizza days, maybe
>a committee decides everything from the top down and drones just execute the ideas

and we wonder why its all shit

>>723332969 (OP)
I'm fine with pokemon not having any voice acting, that's the least of the games' problems
That said, they should do away with the cutscenes where everyone flaps their gums for no reason since there's no voice coming out, use artwork instead and present it like a comic

>>723339231
Rebecca

>>723332969 (OP)
I don't care either way personally, but it be okay as an option, for players to pick and chose. Stuff like the concert scenes should have voices though.

>>723339231
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrZiZMQYHFU

>>723339234
At least with everything collapsing efficiency perverts who hollowed out life for a 1.3% increased ROI will be irrelevant again.

>>723338053
Best post itt.
VA has been a fucking disaster for dialogue systems that aren’t just "sit here while this NPC talks at you." You get very little input, because multiple responses cost money and time. God forbid that the story has branching routes.

>>723339115
They are.

>>723339395
Sexo voice...
Uh I mean cute.

>>723336057
Not the problem, I just think no proper VA but with occasional voice clips fits Zelda better

>>723332969 (OP)
Alright but it's exclusively japanese voice acting. Why would you waste time dubbing your game in multiple languages?

>>723334817
I play E33 with the french voices. I said nothing about hating all voice acting, I just want to kill all english VAs

>>723333070
fpbp, it's perhaps the one thing they could do that would immediately make the games substantially shittier. as things stand we've already hit rock bottom with everything else, it's pretty much the last thing they could ruin.

>tendies will justify anything that can save their friends some money
Honestly a $10 million budget for Pokémon games being sold at $70 to the cultists is too high. I’m sure they’d be able to halve that budget and still produce the same quality shovelware that they sell you goyim at a markup.

>>723334631
I liked Fallout 4 but god damn the MC sucks and it's obvious the people who wrote their cringiest dialog also wrote Starfield.

>>723340330
Says the guy whose cleansing ritual is blaming Nintendo to have a clear conscience when they buy their next batch of western microtransaction ridden AAA slop

>>723339221
You mean BW1 and 2?

It always makes me laugh when people who are very passionate about voice acting, critique it etc. are also dubniggers. It's just so retarded.

>>723334403
>>723334117
They improved chuds

>>723340682
Imagine this being voiced.

>>723332969 (OP)
people will buy it anyway, why spend the money

>>723340478
Funnily enough I’ve bought more Nintendo games this year than western games.
But man I hope miyamoto sees you defending him so valiantly someday. Maybe they’ll knock a few more cents off their next epic sale.

This thread genuinely feels fake, maybe AI-generated. It's just so retarded it's impossible to visualize actual human beings doing it. That might just be how alphoid /v/ermin shitstains are though.

>>723340629
The first week of the FFXIV Dawntrail release was confusing to me because I wasn't lurking threads but I heard people screeching about the voice acting and I didn't even consider they were talking about the English dub on a Japanese game.

>>723335369
French Zelda is absolutely olev THOUGH

>>723340873
I assure you all those tendies are dead set on defending their best friend’s greedy decisions.

>>723340961
I was talking about you actually. Your embarrassing overly sanctimonious posts about a complete non-issue. It doesn't feel like something a white human would post.

>>723334117
All that fucking money and it looks so cheap, pokecultists were a mistake.

>>723340682
It's crazy because the Tomodachi Life rap battles are way better than this slop and those "voices" are terrible. Just give the player some fucking audio input, this is agony.

>>723332969 (OP)
The lead singer for Mindless Self Indulgence, who is a pedophile whose band’s thesis statement was a song about how it’s funny that children complain about their parents raping them, was the inspiration for this character and there’s ironically a video on their YouTube channel of him doing a voiceover of his cutscenes.

>>723332969 (OP)
https://youtu.be/0cNwY-1hNPQ

>>723341052
>tendie this mad people shitting on his friends
You’ll survive dude.

>>723332969 (OP)
Pokemon fans should ask for better writing and not voice acting, unironically
That's the ONE thing they could do right with the popularity and profits they have, having the games getting/keeping the younger fans READING

>>723341334
S/V are the only games in the series with writing worth a damn

>>723341334
>younger fans
Are you retarded? Only tendies play this slop and just because they’re mentally children doesn’t make them young.

>>723334117
>when the GEMA drops the beat

>>723332969 (OP)
voice acting is so gay in video games. it's always the same retarded liberals with the same exaggerated cringe anime voices

>>723333475
This

UMM ACKCHUALLLY OUR $90 AAA GAME DOESN'T NEED TO BE HIGH QUALITY

>>723339115
>Nintendo won't use ai voice
>Nintendo won't pay voice actors what they deserve
uhh, based?

>>723341916
Honestly I think they should increase the price of Pokémon games to $80 or more. And include more day one DLC of course. They’d be able to get away with it and I genuinely want to see tendies get fucked up the ass more.

>>723338953
In no way is Voice-Acting "needed" nor a "standard. What are you talking about? Voice-Acting isn't important to any game at all. Besides like grunting or something.

>>723342164
Anon, they're already doing that... A DLC got announced before the release that releases the same time as the full release...

>>723333070
Pokemon not having voice acting is fucking stupid because they still animate cutscenes as if the characters should be talking, it feels like playing a story based game with the volume set to 0

>>723342278
Voice acting isn’t a standard in the same way that sending friends a text message via your console isn’t a standard. In that it’s a standard but tendies will defend Nintendos greed in not doing it because god forbid they make even a single dollar less than they could.

>>723334117
You're right Allister into a 5 minute unskippable song and dance every time you go to his gym. Fucking retard.

>>723342279
>A DLC got announced before the release that releases the same time as the full release...
No, that is Digimon. Pokemon's releases in February.

>>723342821
Skippable cutscenes aren’t a standard either so no need for Nintendos games to have that either.

>>723342872
>day one dlc is okay if we do it, but if our competitors do it it’s wrong
Lmao
Tendies are lesser humans man.

Black and White had voice acting for its musical segment.

>>723343153

The last Pokemon game with SOUL.

Also the reason for a lack of voice acting isn't artistic, it's because the games are produced on a shoestring budget and they literally can't afford it. It's hilarious.

>>723334117
Looks fine to me?

>>723343424
But they wasted no time in charging $60 and now $70 for their indie-tier shovelware.
The only people who have more contempt for tendies than me are Nintendo themselves.

>>723342872
>soon after
lol

Coromon buttfucks pokemon

>>723343070
>>day one dlc is okay if we do it,
But i just told you it's not day one DLC as it releases in four months. Retard.

>>723336607
turn boycotts into crusades

>>723332969 (OP)
the whole game doesnt need voice acting
but THE SCENE OF A CHARACTER SINGING being NOTHING BUT DEAD SILENCE and some sfx
there is no excuse

>>723343826
4 months isn't very far off desu

>>723334117
Pokemon is a kusoge that just happened to get popular. It might as well just be a anomalously popular small independent doujinshi group making the games, because well, it is.

>>723343873
Digimon’s DLC releases in a few months too!

>>723344142
It's out already

>>723343873
>day one dlc
>preorder bonuses for the dlc
>locking away $30 for 4 months to get the actual content
it's a preorder, but not really, so no refunds!

you're either a falseflagger or just a terribly brainwashed person

>>723344069
retard

>>723332969 (OP)
Whether you think the game needs voice acting or not is irrelevant if the gameplay still sucks and the game runs poorly.

>voice acting is actually bad

lmao
Just hire good ones, there are many memorable lines from games that wouldn't have stuck otherwise

>>723336327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrAMJ7grdvU
The intro of the game is really bad too where it obviously needs VA to accomplish any of what they obviously wanted to do.

>>723332969 (OP)
no tranny, they won't give you a job as a voice actor, pokemon games never had voice acting and should stay that way
want voice acting? go watch the anime, and no, not the dub.

>>723342164
I think they should charge $50 for 1 week early access.

>>723334552
>why won't you pay for voice actors? Anti-semetic much?!?!?

>>723334552
>nooo you mean I have to..le sigh...LE READ?!?!!? NOOOOOOOOO!!!

>>723332969 (OP)
>>723334117
The problem is not the lack of voice acting is the inclusion of every single sound effect possible but the voice acting, it just looks unfinished with no clever way to compensate for the lack of VA.

>>723344937
>buy
buy what, a three year old game?

>>723345291
Yeah, there's other scenes like it too. You got slow cutscenes with full motion movement and mouth flapping and timing based around presumed voices playing out that you can't skip or move along but there is no actual talking.

>>723335419
Those games were voiced by most of Hollywood's best voice talent of all time. Every other video game is voiced by whoever happened to be passing by when they were recording.

Legends ZA as the same problem, the game presents cutscenes with everything included but the voice acting, no textboxes with sound effects, no character portraits showing their emotional state, just mouths flapping with no sound.
It's really fucking weird how it's presented.

>>723332969 (OP)
He still gave them money, buying it full price. Why would they start caring?

>>723339221
I like how in XY you can see the underwear of the female protagonist because she's skating in the city.
Gen 9 and later, every girl wear pants

Pokemon should stick to the gibberish from games like Okami and Chibi Robo. It works for music too, they've practically elevated it to an art form.

>>723332969 (OP)
>complains about the game
>keeps buying every sequel

No voice acting is better than bad voice acting, which it would be if Game Freak were in charge.

Voice acting IS cringe but having fully animated cutscenes with mute characters is even more. No voice acting is great because it's just characters standing in front of each other with text boxes you can read very quickly and go back to the gameplay. Cutscenes with no voice acting are trash.

>>723340629
You see why every video in social media have word-by-word subtitles and the "1000 Hz Tone" every five seconds . People hates hear human voices and the 1000 Hz Tone is shoukd set the volume to zero.

Falcom had a musical act in Sky 1st just recently and those games have no budget.
What is the possible excuse.

You see why every video in social media have word-by-word subtitles and the "1000 Hz Tone" every five seconds

>>723333070
fpbp. I have yet to see a game where the voice acting didn't actively detract from the experience. I'd rather imagine a decent-sounding voice than have a terrible voice forced on me.

Pokemon fans are septum piercing girls
>literally any other RPG doesn't have VA
>-silence
>Pokemon doesn't have VA and makes all these weird cutscenes that are begging for VA
>YA KNOW IT DIDNT EVEB HURT WHEN THEY DID IT, RPGs DONT NEED VA, IT JUST RUINS THE EXPERIENCE, RPGs WITH VOICE ACTING SUCK BY THE WAY
and their opinion will completely change the day Pokemon has a fully voiced game

>>723336931
>Pokémon fans continue to buy the trash no matter how trashy it gets
No, they get what they fucking deserve

>>723346167
Just like it did for Zelda, everybody loved the awkward Z-Grade acting there.

>>723346318
Not me, I changed VAs immediately to Japanese and would have preferred the approach they had up to that point

There are a lot of RPGs that aren't voiced but most of them are clever enough not to animate them in a way where it looks stupid when no voices.
>>723334117
This just looks fucking stupid

>>723346167
Funnily enough I like Wind Waker's "voice acting". It fit the game's visuals very well. To me that's proof that you don't need actual voice acting. Just look at games like Animal Crossing and The Sims.

>>723346407
I'd have taken the fake lalala talk we got in the earlier monhun games

>>723334552
Yes, unironically. Voice actors are a blight on the whole medium.

>>723346318
You mean everybody trashed on english Zelda day Zero.

>>723346461
whoops meant for >>723346318

>>723346467
MonHun is yet another good example of voice acting ruining the thing they had, when Wilds abandoned monhunspeak entirely I knew it was over

>>723346510
I kind of thought that calling it awkward and Z-Grade would have implied sarcasm.

>>723346612
I have a friend who picked the brazillian dub because he was so mad that they didn't have monhunspeak that he might as well listen to a language that is complete gibberish to him instead

>"WE DEMAND POKÉMON HAVE FULL VOICE ACTING!"
>Nintendo does so
>"NO NOT LIKE THAT IT'S SHIT I'M PLAYING THE JAPANESE VERSION"
I guarantee you this will happen. Just like with Zelda.

>>723346708
Issue here is that sadly there are "people" who truly believe that it was great

>>723346612
Yeah and of course the game with the "real voice acting" now magically has all these long drawn out annoying talking segments, not only in cutscenes but now with on rails talking segments where running/sprinting are forbidden. World had its hair of talking but the handler at least hit you with a "HEY PARD" followed by a textbox as you did whatever the fuck you want

>>723332969 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T6dvEuV7hk
they did it for Roxie but not him

>tendies will defend barebone games that don’t have industry standard features while defending the industry standard pricing
Nintendo genuinely hit it out of the park when it comes to cultivating loyal cultists.

>>723346793
>sumo
>villains are rapping(not voiced) punk kids
>sword and shield
>villains are "Team yell"(not voiced) beyond these canned "hey hey hey" background sounds
>Pokémon scarlet and violet
>villains are team star who have these mad Max vehicles and are frequently yelling into microphones or from their cars (not voiced)
Do we seriously not see the problem here? If Pokemon wants so badly to not have voice acting, they need to pivot away from all these bombastic performative types and move back to shlubs and mob bosses

>>723338381
F-Zero X does

>>723334552
Someone wanting voice actors in a video game franchise is probably a good litmus test to see whether or not an individual is factually retarded and can't read above a sixth grade level. Do you still sound out words, anon?

>>723347173
Talking is the act of sounding out words, so I guess yeah

>>723347173
How dare these vile creations expect industry standards such as voice acting?! Don’t they know that this makes games worse and costs Nintendo money?
Now excuse me while I pay $70 + $30 day one dlc, an industry standard that’s GOOD since it allows Nintendo to make money.

Every game ought have voice acting
And every voice acted game ought have an option to turn it off
All games ought have skippabke cutscenes
Brave, I know, I know! I'm known for having very controversial and brave opinions.

Imagine being this asshurt over having to read. GG you illiterate retard.

>>723347495
>says the retard who can't read

>>723334117
mogged decades ago

>>723347495
I agree with you. We should expect less content and quality as the price of Nintendo games goes up.
We need more tech demos like fetus game and less QA done for Pokémon Day One DLC Version

>>723347578
Silence, kid.

>>723333070
That's only true for RPGs because it limits the options for branching dialogue, which Pokemon doesn't have

>>723332969 (OP)
>>723333723
It depends on how and where it's used, at least for me. Of course in a fighting game I want to hear Alex yell 'Flash!' or say 'At ease, losa' when I win a round. How a fighter sounds is as important as the sound effects of the hits they make. Now compare Street Fighter to another Capcom franchise, Monster Hunter. With they introduced voice acting, and a lot of cutscenes to justify that voice acting. On top of voice acting in cutscenes they make it so NPCs talk to you during certain hunts to tell you shit you already know or can clearly see what's happening thanks to blatant visual cues. That's where shit oversteps and it's something Wilds does even worse.
>but what about Rise?
Good news! Rise has options that allow you to selectively determine how often your character and NPCs talk, meaning you can leave them to grunts only the entire time you play.

In a game like Pokemon I can't say that I give a fuck that the games aren't voice acted and in fact prefer it that way. Why do I give a flying fuck what gym leader #114 has to say for what amounts to two minutes of dialogue and then I'll never interact with them again? Sounds like wasted money, even if they hired the same person to voice multiple characters. Pokemon are the focus, which makes sense since the series is called Pokemon, and they all have their own unique sounds.

Bottom line, not everything with words or dialogue needs a voice attached to it and be a fucking audio book for retards.

>>723348556
Nah, if you're gonna stick me in back to back 5-6 minute unskippable cutscenes, they need voices.

>>723334117
There is no way this game wasn't entirely outsourced to India

>>723348652
I should think the solution to that would be to not have 5+ min unskippable cutscenes.

>>723349073
The cutscenes aren't going away. History has proven that the cutscenes will continue

>>723349073
Except you’ll instead get more of those 5 minute, non-voiced, unskippable cutscenes and will pay a premium for it too. Because tendies are lower than cattle and they’re well aware of it.

>>723333206
Ehm
Uhhh
Aah
Eehmmmm
It's a requisite for you to be AAA
Yes
That.

>>723346318
The voice acting was literally only bad in English
Every other language was somehow fine

if you ever wonder how a cultist act, well this thread is your reference

>>723333070
It depends on the genre. Some games can benefit from voices like icing on a cake, it can bring a little atmosphere, so long as it's done well.

But most of the time it's just bad. It's pointless, so much that AI is far better alternative if you just need a handful of lines for something like a fighting game.