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Anonymous No.723334123 >>723334478 >>723334687 >>723334778 >>723334798 >>723334945 >>723335138 >>723335814 >>723336143 >>723336162 >>723336407 >>723336863 >>723336948 >>723337295 >>723337707 >>723337891 >>723338192 >>723338575 >>723339629 >>723339689 >>723339950 >>723340451 >>723340754 >>723341327 >>723341649 >>723342127 >>723342218 >>723343327 >>723343367 >>723343956 >>723344469 >>723349204 >>723349291 >>723349707 >>723362774 >>723364189 >>723365403 >>723365746 >>723368852
How do we fix this?
Anonymous No.723334274 >>723343095 >>723344373 >>723348819 >>723351331 >>723351535 >>723360593 >>723360821 >>723361071 >>723361225 >>723364272 >>723364409 >>723365139 >>723365407 >>723365416 >>723368762
a lot of men will have to die in wars, women will have to lose the right to vote or do anything of their own volition really and of course Jews will have to be expelled

it's a difficult proposition, to be fair
Anonymous No.723334478 >>723334553 >>723334934 >>723335950 >>723337670 >>723360047
>>723334123 (OP)
Even the older Devs were inspired by board games, sports and shit like books
Grow up, unc.
Anonymous No.723334553
>>723334478
>he knows what a book is
Fake zoomer
Anonymous No.723334687
>>723334123 (OP)
You weren't alive for the slop flood of collectathon mascot platformers.
Anonymous No.723334778
>>723334123 (OP)
Yk, you can just play good games?
Anonymous No.723334798 >>723335180 >>723335248 >>723365202
>>723334123 (OP)
left: never happened.
right: never happened.
source: me
fpbp: mine.
Anonymous No.723334920 >>723335248 >>723360047
that's woke
Anonymous No.723334934 >>723335095 >>723335832
>>723334478
>Even the older Devs were inspired by [other things than video games]
Yeah that's the problem
Anonymous No.723334945 >>723335128 >>723344628
>>723334123 (OP)
The best selling games of the third, fourth and fifth generation were Super Mario Bros, Super Mario World and Super Mario 64. Platformers were the absolutely dominant genre until sports and shooters overtook it by the turn of the millennium.
Do you think people were making platformers out of love for acrobatics or do you think it's more likely that they saw holy shit this Mario is printing money.
Yeah Satoshi Tajiri liked collecting bugs. Do you think every monster catcher game was created by autists or do you think it was more that Pokemania was doing insane numbers?

Get the fuck out with your retarded wojak strawman.
Anonymous No.723335095
>>723334934
Because that's what they had
Some of the greatest games in recent years were inspired by older video games


We are all products of our environment
Anonymous No.723335128
>>723334945
>t. Numale soibreath
Anonymous No.723335138
>>723334123 (OP)
The only one to ever say this was Miyamoto, western devs were always fucking nerds you disingenuous niggerfaggot
Anonymous No.723335158
me on the right
Anonymous No.723335180
>>723334798
Based historian. You were there; you remember. Everything else is retconned by people who read a tweet once and think they unearthed the Dead Sea Scrolls of game dev intent.
Anonymous No.723335248 >>723336245 >>723336556
>>723334798
>>723334920
left is literally the main inspiration for Pokemon
Anonymous No.723335484
The 90s is full of derivative shit. Even Pokemon is derivative and not the first of its kind and what set it apart is everything but the gameplay.
Anonymous No.723335689 >>723343423
Gamers shouldnt be allowed to design video games. Only chad who has sex and does cool things IRL. I dont want to experience the fantasy of a nerd I have that already.
Anonymous No.723335814
>>723334123 (OP)
Most people just can't come up with original ideas. Books have been around for 2,000 years and only a few hundred writers are being talked about in 2025.
Anonymous No.723335832
>>723334934
There are games that are still being made on things that aren't video games most likely. Whether people care for them or not, is another thing.
Anonymous No.723335950 >>723336168 >>723365554
>>723334478
>unc
I hate alphies so much it's unreal
Anonymous No.723336058 >>723336261 >>723360681
>complaining about devs using the same genres while using wojaks and gigachads
ironic
Anonymous No.723336143 >>723336558 >>723336887
>>723334123 (OP)
Well to be fair leftoids can't really explore far in their concrete and plastic constructed walkable utopias with roaming fentanyl fueled negro radiant encounters. And worse it will get as they spread their science farther and farther.
Anonymous No.723336162
>>723334123 (OP)
>Old devs had lives doood
>Old devs: "Hrm, I think I'll make a game like Star Trek!"
Anonymous No.723336168 >>723336537
>>723335950
>Unc is seething about YNs
Lel
Anonymous No.723336245 >>723337141
>>723335248
left is literally a made up lie meant to sell you products.
Anonymous No.723336261
>>723336058
Only way you can explore new ideas in current year is if you trojan horse it into a rehash
Anonymous No.723336352 >>723336406 >>723337059 >>723337601 >>723344742
people who judge a body of work based on how the artist was inspired and not by its intrinsic qualities are projecting their own insecurity to be validated as a creative. in summary, you're a faggot.
Anonymous No.723336406
>>723336352
well said
Anonymous No.723336407
>>723334123 (OP)
These things kinda fix themselves at some point
Anonymous No.723336537 >>723337489
>>723336168
don't write like a retard
Anonymous No.723336556 >>723337141
>>723335248
Bullshit.
>But he sai-
We both know he just said that because japs are like that, always trying to make shit flowery and crap. Ooooh "the moon looks beautiful tonight", bleh.
Anonymous No.723336558 >>723337384
>>723336143
What are you talking about, that sounds like great inspiration for a videogame
Anonymous No.723336863
>>723334123 (OP)
Yeah, wouldn't want my game devs to be knowledgeable about their craft.
Anonymous No.723336887 >>723337384
>>723336143
I'd play an Escape from LA game
Anonymous No.723336948 >>723360285
>>723334123 (OP)
>people unironically fell for nintendo's marketing
most games, including nintendo's games, are inspired by some other game. but "i wanted to make a game like hydlide" doesn't sell so you have to make up some horseshit about exploring the forest as a kid
Anonymous No.723337059 >>723337209
>>723336352
Ironic posting FFVII with that, considering the series went to shit after Sakaguchi left and they tried to replicate his artistic vision
Anonymous No.723337141 >>723337685 >>723337743
>>723336245
>>723336556
>game about catching bugs
>NOOOOO IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN POSSIBLY INSPIRED BY CATCHING BUGS
>BE ANGRY BE SAD BE DEMORALIZED
Anonymous No.723337209
>>723337059
way to completely miss the point
Anonymous No.723337295
>>723334123 (OP)
Genie’s out of the bottle and can’t go back. Games will forever be tainted by the games that came before.
Anonymous No.723337296 >>723337612 >>723337867 >>723344469 >>723348594
>The more virgin our eyes are, the more we have to say. The most detestable habit in all modern cinema is the homage. I don’t want to see another goddamn homage in anybody’s movie. There are enough of them which are unconscious. Now, of course, you must see films, and you must see great films. I said don’t be marinated, don’t soak yourself in films.
Anonymous No.723337384
>>723336558
>>723336887
get on it
Anonymous No.723337489 >>723338284 >>723340716 >>723341557 >>723365136
>>723336537
What's wrong… yo bitchass got mad?
Anonymous No.723337601 >>723337796 >>723337860
>>723336352
straight up copying whatever is successful isn't inspiration at all, is the point you're missing.
Anonymous No.723337612 >>723357387
>>723337296
>action, please!
Anonymous No.723337670
>>723334478
15 old unc
Anonymous No.723337685 >>723350404
>>723337141
>game about le catching le bugs
>has you being given them for free by a professor (this is how real bug catching works)
>has entire society built aroung bug catchers, sporting events, underground crime syndicates, highest levels of government involved as well as mundane every day jobs, etc (like how bugs really behave irl!)
>bugs come in all forms such as dragons, dogs, rats, rocks, bats, and of course primordial gods taller than sky scrapers (real life is actually like this!)
>fell for it hook line and sinker
>forgot it was originally said about zelda
>will fall for it again when the pick men movie comes out and he believes miyamoto was sticking gardening tools up his ass
I got a bridge to sell you.
Anonymous No.723337707
>>723334123 (OP)
Sorry, but inspiration and creativity aren't profitable. Only lowest common denominator games for the modern MTN DEW + MONSTER ENERGY G4M3R are approved.
You will play the towerslop. You will play CoD. You will play Elden Souls.

Non-retard answer though, for real: Just play indie games. It's that easy. Stop buying AAA garbage if you don't like AAA garbage. Buy the bug game, I promise it's out there.
Anonymous No.723337743 >>723337889
>>723337141
>LIFE HAS ALWAYS BEEN HORRIBLE AND SCARY! PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS LIVED LIKE DOGS LYING AND GRIFTING FOR PENNIES AND LIVING IN SHIT!
>BE AFRAID AND VOTE FOR GOMMUNISM!
Anonymous No.723337796 >>723338198
>>723337601
that is what they were doing though. making up a story about fucking around in a garden as a kid is just marketing. it obviously works as evidenced by this thread where people unironically believe that all of their favorite games as a kid where 100% original ideas created by a developer's treasured childhood memory
Anonymous No.723337860 >>723339320
>>723337601
>straight up copying whatever is successful
People always did that
Even the sacred texts have a lot plagerism, ffs.
It's your duty to find quality stuff.
Anonymous No.723337867 >>723352917
>>723337296
This nigga made literally one good movie and coasted off of it for 40 years
Anonymous No.723337889 >>723338425
>>723337743
Santa claus and the easter bunny are not real. They were never real. You are a child throwing a tantrum because you're being told that santa isn't real and you don't wanna believe it.
Anonymous No.723337891 >>723338250
>>723334123 (OP)
The moment someone described their game with a genre, you know they're just another soulless derivative husk churning out tasteless slop
Anonymous No.723338192
>>723334123 (OP)
encourage people to make what they want and take creative risks. we can do it now because indie solo devving continues to become ever accessible to people. there's never been a better time in history to try and make your dream game, anon. fucking try at least.
Anonymous No.723338198 >>723338459 >>723338461
>>723337796
>that is what they were doing though. making up a story about fucking around in a garden as a kid is just marketing. it obviously works as evidenced by this thread where people unironically believe that all of their favorite games as a kid where 100% original ideas created by a developer's treasured childhood memory

If the lie works, it means the idea feel natural and good though. Nobody would be able to sell another Soulslike as "Oh, I just REALLY wanted to create this feeling of being a stoic knight in a dark hopeless fantasy world..". In fact Demon's and Dark 1 are good examples of games that despite taking insperation from games that came before, they feel very organic and "true". Like figuring out that the boss is a puppet and you have to kill the puppet master on the second floor to beat it is one of those eureka moments most video games don't have
Anonymous No.723338250 >>723338540
>>723337891
Talk to any guy who ever tried to pitch anything.
Comparing your thing to some other popular thing is the only thing that interests people and VCs.
Nobody cares about honest and down to earth pitches.
Anonymous No.723338284
>>723337489
nor a nigger
Anonymous No.723338425
>>723337889
You are talking to a mirror
Anonymous No.723338459
>>723338198
no, it just means that you didn't know enough about games to notice that it was suspiciously similar to a different game.
Anonymous No.723338461
>>723338198
>feel
To a guy who only played 6-7
A ubisoft game also feels original and good.
Anonymous No.723338540 >>723338728
>>723338250
>Talk to any guy who ever tried to pitch anything.
>Comparing your thing to some other popular thing is the only thing that interests people and VCs.
>Nobody cares about honest and down to earth pitches.

You can pitch something without just resorting to genres. Hitman is a game about...playing as a hitman. So the game mechanics are designed around that, that's your vision, simple. Genres are useful as marketing tools, but if the idea for a game at its core is being a "genre game" and nothing beyond that, it's probably a pretty shitty idea
Anonymous No.723338575 >>723338652
>>723334123 (OP)
Ok but would like a Soulslike, Rougelike, Metroidvania with parry focused puzzlelike combat and RPG mechanics and lots of build variety
Anonymous No.723338652
>>723338575
Game devs know that, unfortunately.
Anonymous No.723338728 >>723339016
>>723338540
>if the idea for a game at its core is being a "genre game" and nothing beyond that, it's probably a pretty shitty idea

Not necessarily, you can probably make a fun game by combining different genres
A lot artist make a lot good work without doing some psychological deep dive.
Anonymous No.723339016 >>723339168 >>723350846
>>723338728
nta, but innately, the idea of a game starting from the genre already means you're boxing your vision and it's a tell you're making it as a product of appeal, rather than an experience you want to create.
Anonymous No.723339036 >>723339160
Check this out if you actually interested in creativity.
https://youtu.be/5QkY8CFP4UY?si=U_yYNlhA7A8rJuv8

Tldr: it's not about coming up with new ideas it's about combining them in a good way.
Anonymous No.723339120 >>723339676
The first text adventure exists because a programmer was into cave exploring.
https://rickadams.org/adventure/a_history.html
Anonymous No.723339160 >>723339458
>>723339036
draw a kangaroo RIGHT NOW
Anonymous No.723339168
>>723339016
>product of appeal, rather than an experience you want to create.
99% times it's a mix
Indie artsy devs also want sell their games
While there are probably some ubisoft Devs that actually care about the experience.
Anonymous No.723339225
I would always get neighborhood kids to have swordfights so I have divine right to make as much parryslop as I want.
Anonymous No.723339320 >>723339730 >>723339748 >>723339978
>>723337860
what was super mario brothers copying?
Anonymous No.723339458
>>723339160
I listened for Marshall.
Anonymous No.723339629
>>723334123 (OP)
>OLD GOOD NEW BAD
for how many centuries have we done this?
Anonymous No.723339676 >>723362310 >>723368687
>>723339120
>I had been involved in a non-computer role-playing game called Dungeons and Dragons at the time, and also I had been actively exploring in caves
It's both, always has been both. Always will be both. Retards can only think in binary, good and not good, efficient or inefficient, right or wrong. Media takes inspiration from life as well as other media.
I don't get why people are trying to say otherwise.
Anonymous No.723339689 >>723347268
>>723334123 (OP)
You can't. It's kind of like with novels. Read 18th century novels, they will follow some conventional storytelling, sure, but there will be some strangeness in them, very often they'll be just strange in their structure. Then there comes the classical novel of the 19th century and future novelists just endlessly copy the convention created back then. Postmodernists try to combat that but as a result they just copy some of the aspects of the pre-classical novel and turn those into convention, except nobody but aspiring artsy writers wants to read this shit anymore. There is no coming back to the authentic experimentation with the format that happened before it was established.

For less high brow example check what fantasy as a genre was like before that solidified. You have for instance Howard, who's settings are a mix of different anachronistic historical cultures living together on some supposedly ancient earth. Then you have something like The Night Land which is sort of post-apocalyptic(it's set in a far future when the sun goes dark). On another isle you have very whimsical Gods of Pegana that is more like some alien mythology than anything concrete. But at some point you get to the state where irish-accent dwarves fight green orcs, while long-lived elves sneer at lowly humans who still somehow become the dominant species in the world while all sci-fi elements, previously freely mixed with the genre seem to go away.

That is the natural course of any form of creation.
Anonymous No.723339730 >>723339978 >>723340345
>>723339320
pac-land
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvHPE20pPPo
Anonymous No.723339748 >>723340345
>>723339320
Dk and pitfall.
Anonymous No.723339950 >>723360707
>>723334123 (OP)
>Games used to be so derivative that FPS games were referred to as Doom-clones
>The average company is now so litigious that you need to hide behind established genre labels so that they don't jump down your throat for copying the game that they have been milking for the past 30 years based on patents that they filed after you made your game or a trademark that they have on a public domain work
It's literally just the escalating nature of WIPO legislation.
Anonymous No.723339978 >>723340345 >>723345182
>>723339320
>>723339730
oh and zelda was just copying hydlide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDOHU15usro
Anonymous No.723340150 >>723340563
games are more fun these days and I'm tired of pretending they aren't
AAA shit like Battlefield 6 is dead and soulless obviously but everything else is better
Anonymous No.723340345 >>723340462 >>723341040
>>723339730
>>723339978
>>723339748
what were they copying?
Anonymous No.723340451
>>723334123 (OP)
>right
Literally how Dead Cells sells itself
Anonymous No.723340462 >>723364672
>>723340345
i posted a link to both of the games you stupid nigger
Anonymous No.723340487 >>723340972
OP's pic really ruffled some uncreative hack weathers huh. It doesn't even say you can't learn from other video games. Just that you should have some other sources of inspiration outside of just making an unholy frankenstein monster of trendy meme shit
Anonymous No.723340563
>>723340150
Zis
The FTOM games are a lot more fun than most "great retro" games
Anonymous No.723340702
It's not actually a huge problem.
The right is an indie dev phenomenon, and it's the result of wanting to wring out as much replayability as possible from a small budget and team. Like it or not this is actually what players want from indie games.
Bigger budget devs have a different set of incentives and aren't thinking that way at all.
Anonymous No.723340716
>>723337489
>Brown trying and failing to bait
Frfr you a dummy no cap, skeeter.
Anonymous No.723340754 >>723359431
>>723334123 (OP)
>Lol we used the same shit genres for years were so le uncreative
>Posts an image with jaks
Anonymous No.723340972 >>723341047
>>723340487
name a good game
Anonymous No.723341040 >>723364672
>>723340345
>Lalalalala I can't see them lalalala
Get out fag
Anonymous No.723341047 >>723341406
>>723340972
Genshin Impact. The men and women from that game arouse me greatly.
Anonymous No.723341196 >>723341489 >>723353746 >>723354039
Easy:
>Read some books
>Watch some movies
>Remember the times you had fun with your friends
>Dig up old drawings you used to make when you were a kid
You should be making something original, not Banjo-McDaxter but with 50% more furry porn like most of these Twitter """gamedevs""".
Anonymous No.723341327 >>723341540
>>723334123 (OP)
Most devs have to credit their sources or else they'll be called out.
Anonymous No.723341406
>>723341047
that's a bad game. you lose retard
Anonymous No.723341489 >>723341806 >>723342152
>>723341196
Those don't relate into creating a game. It's just more iteration into the pile sort of like junk food of your memory.
Anonymous No.723341540
>>723341327
Not really, just rip off shit with some grace. Dead Space fans get mad when you call the game RE4 in space, even though the director himself admitted it was their primary influence
Anonymous No.723341557
>>723337489
slay sistah!
Anonymous No.723341649
>>723334123 (OP)
Labels sell a product, even if they're just tangentially related to the product. To fix that, you simply stop thinking of the game as a product.
Anonymous No.723341806 >>723349697
>>723341489
>Those don't relate into creating a game. It's just more iteration into the pile sort of like junk food of your memory.
Itagaki said he was inspired by backgammon when designing Ninja Gaiden's combat system, you can get inspiration from anywhere, in fact the weirder ones tend to be a lot more interesting
Anonymous No.723341808
The problem with these roguelikes and soulslikes isn't the gameplay itself but how each one doesn't contribute to the evolution of the genre itself and instead go for the easy route of straight up copying them.
Anonymous No.723342127
>>723334123 (OP)
You just simply fire everyone until you get a non autist. Also outlaw vaccines.
Anonymous No.723342152 >>723342448
>>723341489
>Video games are about giving the player an experience
>>Durr...Those don't relate into creating a game.
This is why you are just a consumer. You lack imagination.
Anonymous No.723342218 >>723342690
>>723334123 (OP)
by forcing devs to touch grass, I guess
Anonymous No.723342323
memes then memes now
Anonymous No.723342448 >>723351414
>>723342152
Eating second hand slop like books, shows, and animes aren't going to add any depth unless you experience things first hand, golem.
Anonymous No.723342690 >>723343013
>>723342218
>by forcing devs to touch grass, I guess
You joke but this is basically what Itsuno did with younger devs at Capcom. He made them go skydiving and shit to make them feel the rush and excitement and then told them to try and translate those feelings into the game.
Anonymous No.723343013
>>723342690
This man had the right idea but handled it poorly.
Anonymous No.723343095
>>723334274
>a lot of men will have to die in wars
The world has gotten worse after every big war in the last two centuries
Anonymous No.723343327
>>723334123 (OP)
by not playing the games made by the person on the right
Anonymous No.723343367 >>723344045 >>723344140
>>723334123 (OP)
it's shit like this that really reveals how raped /v/ was by fromsoft
just endless seething
Anonymous No.723343423
>>723335689
This, maybe let nerds take the boring code monkey jobs.
Anonymous No.723343956
>>723334123 (OP)
devs then
>i like catching bugs
>lets make a game where its dragon quest except with bug catching

devs now
>i like christian iconography mixed with disturbing elements
>lets make a metroidvania with that style

same shit nigga you just looked at different parts of design.
Anonymous No.723344045 >>723344160
>>723343367
To be fair FromSoft themselves also got raped by soulslikes
Anonymous No.723344140
>>723343367
Ironically they experienced both. Miyazaki with his illiteracy to make vague worlds and the teams iterating mindlessly on that in the future.
Anonymous No.723344160 >>723344539
>>723344045
This. They used to have a clear, concise vision of level design and combat encounters inspired by retro games and now they're just chasing the trends (some of which they started) with broader, more open world design and every boss battle just being Artorias again.
Anonymous No.723344264 >>723344409
Play an old one

Did you know certain characters have alternate dialogue in FFVII
Anonymous No.723344373
>>723334274
fpbp /thread
Anonymous No.723344409
>>723344264
>Did you know certain characters have alternate dialogue in FFVII
Yes, and I've always find it a bit ironic that FFVII gets blamed for creating the linear movie game JRPG, while actual FFVII itself still has a lot of old school JRPG elements, like two completely optional party members
Anonymous No.723344469 >>723353254
>>723334123 (OP)
>you can't make something derivative because....you just can't ok
Virtually everything good is a ten times processed remix of ten layers of precedents. I agree with brit fatass >>723337296 that explicit *wink wink reference* hommage is usually gay but the pseudo-ideal of "spontaneous" art is even gayer.
Anonymous No.723344539
>>723344160
I think this has happened with every franchise ever. RE has had this with chasing third person action shooter trends of the time.
Anonymous No.723344628
>>723334945
and what inspired the original Mario and Zelda?
Anonymous No.723344742 >>723345538
>>723336352
this isn't a clever post. The reason this thread exists is because modern games are shit by virtue of having 0 redeemable "intrinsic qualities"
Anonymous No.723344820
so many seething roguelike indieslop "devs" ITT
Anonymous No.723345182
>>723339978
While that's likely part of it, Miyamoto said his inspirations were Ultima and The Black Onyx.
Anonymous No.723345538 >>723347436
>>723344742
>zero intrinsic quality
you don't even know what you're spouting. learn what words mean.
Anonymous No.723346301 >>723346381 >>723347541
When do we shoot and rape jak posters on sight? It's been almost a decade. It's meme stagnation at this point.
Anonymous No.723346381
>>723346301
stale people get represented by stale memes
Anonymous No.723347268
>>723339689
So everything is doomed to just evolve into a crab
Anonymous No.723347436 >>723348613
>>723345538
don't reply to me, ESL
Anonymous No.723347541
>>723346301
>shoot and rape jak posters on sight?

You're too much of a chicken shit to do anything you pearl clutching faggot.
Anonymous No.723348594 >>723349156
>>723337296
>mfw I see another westoid game do a gay daigo parry reference
Anonymous No.723348613
>>723347436
seethe harder retard
Anonymous No.723348819
>>723334274
HOLY BASED
Anonymous No.723349156
>>723348594
i'm only familiar with the straight version
Anonymous No.723349204
>>723334123 (OP)
Gatekeep more
Shame normies, be more toxic, get them out of the greatest hobby of the 21st century.
Anonymous No.723349291
>>723334123 (OP)
Devs then lived actual lives in the real world as kids and made games that captured the emotions and experiences of what they felt

Devs now played a lot of games as kids and thus get stuck making derivative slop in an attempt to recapture the innocence of their youth
Anonymous No.723349697
>>723341806
>Itagaki said he was inspired by backgammon when designing Ninja Gaiden's combat system
I'd love to hear you explain how anything about Ninja Gaiden's combat system has anything to do with backgammon.
Anonymous No.723349707
>>723334123 (OP)
How often do devs these days go outside of their home area for a video game?
Anonymous No.723350404 >>723350547
>>723337685
do you not understand a premise? he took something he experienced and turned it into a game, but played with the idea. If Pokemon was just a little boy running around collecting bugs in jars, it wouldn't be nearly as successful. Are you autistic? You understand it was inspired by his experiences.

I don't know how the idea was fleshed out initially, but it could have gone like: i remember collecting bugs as a kid was fun, make a game where you collect bugs, may be you could fight other people's bugs, okay what if they were different animals/creatures, and it just grows and grows and morphs until you get Pokemon.
Anonymous No.723350547 >>723351207
>>723350404
bug fighting is very popular in asia.
Anonymous No.723350846
>>723339016
It could depend on how it came to be. I don't know how Rocket League was conceived, but someone could have thought about what if the players were cars or wanted to make a driving/racing game but also liked soccer games. So they combine both. Distilling a genre down to its core and inserting it into another could create an interesting game.
Anonymous No.723351207
>>723350547
I wasn't aware, so he took the experience of bug collecting and fighting and iterating ended up becoming Pokemon. He made a whole new world out of his experience. It still doesn't change what i said. If he made a game 1:1 with his experience then it wouldn't look like Pokemon.
Anonymous No.723351331
>>723334274
FINALLY! A sensible individual.
Anonymous No.723351414
>>723342448
Unlike you, I also had the experience of adventures in school, at the national park, and other amazing places with my two best friends; those two inspired the creation of Fygoon's own two best friends and even voice act them. It must be a miserable experience to live life without friends, so I can see why you are flipping out and having a virtual tantrum. Don't worry, you still have time to make friends...right?
Anonymous No.723351535
>>723334274
>>>/pol/
Anonymous No.723352917
>>723337867
>This nigga made literally one good movie and coasted off of it for 40 years
Hollywood destroyed his career because he made Citiizen Kane outside their shitty system and that pissed them off
Anonymous No.723353254
>>723344469
This. Miyamoto famously remarked about exploring caves and shit to invent zelda years after the fact but at the time was just ripping off xanadu and hydlide
Anonymous No.723353746
>>723341196
for me its more like
>hitting rock bottom
>allergic to compassion
>opening a software out of sheer pain
>doing some interesting stuff
>having fun
>start taking it seriously
>try harder
>cringe out
>get depressed
>repeat
Anonymous No.723354039
>>723341196
>>Dig up old drawings you used to make when you were a kid
Must be nice being so privileged
Anonymous No.723354870 >>723358914 >>723359395 >>723365213
Gamers themselves are mostly to blame. Experimination is discouraged, while standardization and homogenization is encouraged. Everything gets pushed towards a more generic accepted mainstream. Its just easier to stick to whats proven to work. For as shitty as many games during the Wii/PS3/360 era were, it was probably the last generation of experimentation. Everyone clowned on waggle and six-axis dragon controls but the truth is you dont know if shit works unless you try.
Anonymous No.723357387
>>723337612
His weirdly high emotional investment in a shitty frozen peas commerical will always be my favorite
Anonymous No.723358914
>>723354870
It does feel like there used to be a lot more mid games that were fun. They weren't great, but they were interesting and still fun.
Anonymous No.723359395
>>723354870
I'm legit kind of mad that players have bitched about underwater segments in games so much that instead of trying to make them better devs just gave up on having them almost entirely
Anonymous No.723359431 >>723364278
>>723340754
jaks are used creatively though
Anonymous No.723359510
how do we fix people who use the chadface to defend their immature behavior?
Anonymous No.723360047 >>723365787
>>723334478
You are supporting the point. Games used to be something other than just copies of already existing games, inspired by something other than industry buzzwords and trend-chasing. You can expand the categories and it just reinforces it.
>>723334920
This is marketing, not truth. This man is not a powerful black woman, but a man, unlike the protagonist in SoM, which is a generic action-adventure slop game not based on anything any real person did in real-life, even if they were playing pretend as a child. I can see how you can go from collecting bugs to imagining the gameplay of Pokemon Red/Blue. It's clear how you can go from exploring the woods as a child to The Legend of Zelda. What did this man experience as a young woman of colour in the deep south that made him imagine generic damage-sponge combat that would be everywhere in The Year of Our Lord: Current Year?
Anonymous No.723360285
>>723336948
>hydlide
druaga ripoff
Anonymous No.723360593
>>723334274
based
Anonymous No.723360681 >>723361078
>>723336058
Wojaks (specially basedjacks) are unironically minmaxed comedy. The culmination of all internet culture in a peak of maximum impact and humor.
Anonymous No.723360707
>>723339950
'Doom-clone' was the reference because it was new and there were so few of them; anything that wasn't Doom, Myst or Might & Magic but was first-person perspective was a 'clone' of one of them. Once there were more, when they did become derivative, they stopped having attention called to them being so. I'm sick of people misremembering recent history, or talking about it when they weren't even alive, and they're usually the ones that think comparisons of modern slop to the originals is just 'nostalgia'. Learning what original innovative games did right at the time would improve games in the present, immensely. It's not turning back the clock, but exploring the path that wasn't taken, but was imagined back then when we first experienced these games.
Anonymous No.723360821
>>723334274
fpbp
Anonymous No.723361071
>>723334274
this desu
Anonymous No.723361078 >>723362110
>>723360681
They are the new generation of rage faces, spammed endlessly by the same brand of obnoxious, unoriginal faggot that used those. You're probably too young to remember those, they stopped getting used 10 whole years ago.
Anonymous No.723361225 >>723362471
>>723334274
expelling doesn't seem to work, lots of historical examples. another solution must be found
Anonymous No.723362110
>>723361078
>rage faces
unc gonna have an anyeurism when he finds out we brought those back too
Anonymous No.723362310
>>723339676
>you need to be into technical stuff to do a technical job
Well yeah no crap. Doesn;'t hace anything to do with the inspiration at a core level. Before it was video games people mae plays andf poems like the Iliad.
Anonymous No.723362471
>>723361225
A final solution perhaps?
Anonymous No.723362684
Most people don't consider deeper truths, and that's why most people are not creative. The average person making an RPG isnt thinking "How can I convey the feeling of growing stronger in a natural way?". They just think "bigger number = more damage". The pieces are there, but their purpose is forgotten
Anonymous No.723362774 >>723364320
>>723334123 (OP)
left still exists
its called northern journey
Anonymous No.723364189
>>723334123 (OP)
The ubiquity of shared human experience is diminishing as more people willingly file into marketing demos and media seeks only to capitalize on those as much as possible. Life imitates art imitating a crude facsimile of the audience's preconceived wants and desires, just a self-feeding entertainment ouroboros.
Anonymous No.723364272 >>723364815
>>723334274
>expelled
that means inflicting them upon someone else and listening to them whine about an imaginary genocide for another century
there are better, more final, solutions
Anonymous No.723364278
>>723359431
I like how you can still see the vestiges of the original wojak's nose and eyes in many of them
Like seeing the many diversified All Tomorrows permutations of the same common ancestor
Anonymous No.723364320
>>723362774
love the game... except for all the bugs
Anonymous No.723364409
>>723334274
TRVTH NVKE
Anonymous No.723364464
Parry mechanics are good and I'm tired of pretending they're not. They're a fun, simple solution to defense feeling too passive in action games, which ruins the flow.
Anonymous No.723364672
>>723340462
>>723341040
I asked what were the games being "copied" copied, you have no answer.
Anonymous No.723364815 >>723365015 >>723368481
>>723364272
Expulsion must be a huge genocidal tactic by your metric as "having brown next to me" qualifies as "genocide"
Anonymous No.723365015 >>723365247 >>723365274
>>723364815
silence, kike
Anonymous No.723365136 >>723365310
>>723337489
This is somehow even more incomprehensible than ebonics, what the fuck.
Anonymous No.723365139
>>723334274
it's funny because it's true
Anonymous No.723365202
>>723334798
it was real in their minds though
Anonymous No.723365213
>>723354870
>Tom and Jerryposter posts the most based take
I expected nothing less.
Anonymous No.723365247 >>723368020 >>723368481
>>723365015
Is "brown people next to me" white genocide or not you fucking pissbaby?
Anonymous No.723365274 >>723368020
>>723365015
>m-muh rootless cosmopolitans
then why don't you have communism yet, burger? you don't even have health care.
Anonymous No.723365310
>>723365136
it just is ebonics, anon. Or more accurately "Mup mop do dida bix nood mufugguh."
Anonymous No.723365403
>>723334123 (OP)
You honestly think it's possible? I don't think so.
Anonymous No.723365407
>>723334274
Anonymous No.723365416
>>723334274
FPBP
Anonymous No.723365554 >>723366392
>>723335950
I think unc is quiet charming desu. It has a pleasant ring to it.
Lazy, perhaps, but remember when we stared calling retards just tards? It's like that anon.
Anonymous No.723365746
>>723334123 (OP)
You'd be calling left trannycore or darksoulsslop, shut the fuck up, nigger.
Anonymous No.723365787
>>723360047
>man, older devs were so much better than modern devs with their lived experience!
>what about this modern dev?
>immediate goalpost moving
Anonymous No.723366392
>>723365554
Nigger.
Anonymous No.723368020 >>723368303
>>723365247
>>723365274
just remember that you asked for it
Anonymous No.723368303
>>723368020
Answer the damn question you baboon.
Anonymous No.723368481 >>723368868
>>723364815
>>723365247
Anonymous No.723368687
>>723339676
D&D inspired so many fucking games it's unreal. It's easily the most influential thing on video gaming.
Anonymous No.723368762
>>723334274
>TND
FPBP
Anonymous No.723368852
>>723334123 (OP)
>How do we fix poshlust crap?
It's simple, we kill the activists.
Anonymous No.723368868
>>723368481
Of course, one state solution: Palestine.

Now, is brown people in your country genocide or not you idiot?