Thread 723336420

Recommend me some christian-themed games

El Shaddai

doom

Shin Megami Tensei

Furry shades of gray

wasting days worth of time going to a place once or twice a week to pay 10% of your money to get into heaven but only because you assume the place near where you were raised happens to be the correct choice of a thousand almost identical options

>>723336490
>>723336591
these are Gnostic games

nuChristians can't into culture and they won't pay others to do it for them like the old days

Blasphemous

>>723336591
starting with MT1 for Famicom and working through the whole series until I got to kill YHVH in 4a was one of the greatest narrative arcs I've experienced in gaming
that shit felt like the ending of the whole series, absolutely fantastic

stop my super-powered son, for it is not convenient for you to be virtuous at this time

>>723336420 (OP)
Xenoblade Chronicles
Just like the biblical god, Zanza is a dick and humanity only grows by killing him.
The only difference is the slaves of god still control humanity in this timeline

>>723336420 (OP)
Crusader Kings 2

>>723336420 (OP)
Castlevania
>holy warrior anointed by the Pope fights Dracula and his army of monsters, even the more complicated stories in the series work heavily off the Christian concepts of Gothic Horror novels such as Dracula
Halo
>you fight a crusade against the Ottoman Empire but they're also space Jews

>>723336420 (OP)
FAITH The Unholy Trinity
Aside all the streamer crap this game is really spooky and you really feel like god is on your side . Slaying demons and praying.

>>723336420 (OP)
Blasphamous
Im not a huge fan of metroidvainias but when your a badass Capirote worshiping god and slaying monsters and demons, It makes it way more enjoyable.

>>723336490
2+3 Enoch are written by rabbis to muddy the water and confuse people, it affirms their talmud believe that Enoch is a angel in heaven that is mediator for the Isrealites. Basically its an antichrist mockery. 1 Enoch is a real authentic book thoughbeit, the 'Son of Man' quote is from it and Daniel gets it from there not the other way around. Metatron is not real though.

>>723336420 (OP)
Colony Ship
https://store.steampowered.com/app/648410/Colony_Ship_A_PostEarth_Role_Playing_Game/

>>723336420 (OP)
Literally all the Zelda games. Maybe except for TP.

>>723336420 (OP)
red dead redemption 1

>>723336420 (OP)
GTA V when you finished the game already. It turns into a comfy modern LA life sim and has some churches that you can roleplay. Also GTA SA

>>723336420 (OP)
KC:D

>>723336420 (OP)
Skyrim

>>723336420 (OP)
Animal crossing series

>>723336420 (OP)
Final Fantasy XV, Ardyn DLC included.

>>723336420 (OP)

Citadel

>>723336554
>le the devli created everything ackshually and gawd is aliens with bewbs who you kill with chainsaw

>>723336420 (OP)
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories. In that game Mickey Mouse is an allegory for Jesus Christ. Fun fact this is why Disney doesn't let Tetauya Nomura use Mickey in important roles anymore.

The Binding of Isaac rebirth

>>723342993
He said Doom, not Doom Shiternal.

Christian denominations are Harry Potter houses for conservatives.

>>723339156
The dev is an actual devout Christian too.

>>723336420 (OP)
You play as a literal angel of God punishing one of Satan's chosen.

>>723336420 (OP)
Total War 2.

>>723343415
Meant to say Medieval Total War 2.

>>723336420 (OP)
Fire emblem three houses

>>723336420 (OP)
idk any generic sports games and racing games.

>>723336420 (OP)
Silent Hill 2. Yes it is a Christian themed game.

>>723336420 (OP)
Natsu-Mon: 20th Century Summer Kid

>>723343728
Jeetbro really thought he'd get the whole squad laughing with this one

>>723336420 (OP)
The You Testament

>>723343867
what? Are those not christian?

>>723336420 (OP)
Spiritual warfare. Its a nes zelda clone and very well made. Be warned though it only has one song and its not a short game

>>723343965
Now he's doubling down on it

>>723337431
Unironically and derogatorily, yes.

game is about slaying dragons, who within the context of the game, are physical incarnations of evil. and the final lesson of the game is about contending with the evil within your own heart. that seems pretty christian-pilled to me.

>>723336710
>This is what reddit actually believes

>>723336710
threadly reminder

Eternal Darkness

>>723336420 (OP)
Bayonetta

>>723339932
Source?

>>723341332
>skyrim
>pagan shit
>"Christian" actually

lmao checks out I guess

>>723343194
I'll take the bait. How is Mickey Jesus in COM? In all honesty I see Sora more as a representative for God than The Mouse. Oh and to be clear I only played the GBA version of COM.

>>723336591
Im sorry but games with freakish and hardcore occult things should not be considered Christian whatsoever. It's something christians should never be involved in even if it is just entertainment. It has to actually be wholesome and boring otherwise get out

>>723336420 (OP)
Portal games and even half life 2's ravenholm

>>723336420 (OP)
Park Toucher Fantasy ver. MAKO
It has biblical themes.

>>723341332
>>723347771
all Todd games are christianity-coded (especially FO3 and Oblivion), you just need to focus to notice that

the absolute and utter state of abrahamic religions

>>723343989
I checked wikipedia to look into this recommendation and there's actually a list of other games, most seem like shovelware though, but Doom 1 and 2 is in fact part of it.

>>723348835
>abrahamic religions are... friendly?
>not fighting each other?
>this is wrong

>>723336420 (OP)
Not all of the games he reviews are Christian in design or Christianity themed, but there's a youtube channel called Pixel Padre who does a review of the ethical and spiritual content of games.

>>723338297
>Castlevania
The church trains and commiserates with witches, and Shintoism was key to bringing down Dracula for "good" in 1999. Not a Christian game

>>723349380
IRL Christianity takes pride in consorting with worse

>>723339412
>worshiping god
Someone didn't get the true ending
>slaying monsters and demons
There are no demons in the game

>>723336420 (OP)
The Inquisitor

>>723343494
THE HOLY BIBLE MAY PREACH PEACE, BUT WHEN IT'S CHRISTENDOM ITSELF THAT IS THREATENED, THEN IT'S EVERY CHRISTIAN'S DUTY TO DEFEND ALL THAT IS HOLY

>>723336420 (OP)
Tomb raider series
Watch dogs 1
Just cause series (Very hilarious take on western Christianity too)

>>723336420 (OP)
maybe a bit of a stretch but kinda cyberpunk 2077 and Deus Ex games. These games felt like it was really exposing how evil a dystopian society can be.

>>723349012
Wisdomtree used to make games too violent for nintendo so they couldnt get published so they reskinned them as Christian games and had Christian bookstores stock them knowing nintendo wouldn't go after them because of the bad pr that would cause. Some of the games are really fun. Spiritual warfare was my favorite but a close second is one where you play as the wise men trying to find Jesus and you ride a spitting camel

>>723336420 (OP)
picrel

>>723336420 (OP)
Hell Clock.

>>723346228
This is Jordan Peterson isn't it?
Here's the thing, i don't think even religious people agree with such an open concept of "worship" meaning whatever you pursue in life.

>>723336853
hearty kek

Lobotomy Corporation

Bungie Halo

Go to church instead you fucking faggot

>>723336420 (OP)
>Recommend me some christian-themed games
Chrono Trigger

>>723354527
but it's thursday?

>>723336420 (OP)
Final Fantasy X

>>723351942
it's DFW

>>723339156
The secret ending of 3 felt amazing. John finally saving Amy and his beliefs so strong against the Unspeakable he's able to get hit ten times beyond the norm made it really feel like God was performing a well earned divine intervention on your behalf

>>723336420 (OP)
The OG Xbox had a lot of random Crusader and Knights games but I don't know if any of them were any good.

Dropsy the Clown

>>723349946
There’s no need to defend Christendom with physical violence. Psalm 91.
Now, defending your neighbors or yourself from harm? That is different. But fighting a mundane, physical war for Christendom as if it were a nation betrays its purpose. Spiritual warfare isn’t fought with guns or knives.

>>723336420 (OP)
megaman x and sim city 4

>>723358302 (me)
lol I just realized I wrote a serious reply to a quote from a video game I haven’t played. My bad

>>723343415
>>723343494
Ah yes, a game in which Islam is strictly superior to Christianity
>Call a Jihad from day 1 and reap the benefits, no petitioning the pope required
>Unlike Crusades, Jihad's can be called on other factions of the same religion
>No College of Cardinals bullshit
>No Pope to tell you to stop making war or you'll be excommunicated
>Turks have a strong argument for being the best faction in the game
Orthodoxy sucks in M2TW too

>>723336710
>Not going to a community gathering and getting to know your neighbours who share your values

Also the 10% meme is gay, I have donated 0 money to my church and they have never asked me for money. Its almost always food drives and clothing drives.

Find christ

>>723336420 (OP)
Fallout 3, Zelda

>>723349892
A part of me kinda wishes it hadn't had the "what if Christ just said 'fuck that shit' and killed his enemies?" twist and it was just played straight as you being an inquisitor that could choose to be merciful or violent as you decided based on the circumstances

>>723336420 (OP)
>When I was sixteen, I won a great victory. I felt in that moment I would live to be a hundred. Now I know I shall not see thirty. None of us know our end, really, or what hand will guide us there. A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power. When you stand before God, you cannot say, "But I was told by others to do thus," or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice. Remember that.
How do you respond?

>>723336420 (OP)
You know that rec threads aren't allowed, OP.

>>723336420 (OP)
fortnite

>>723346228
>Worship power and you will end up feeling weak and afraid, and you will need ever more power over others to numb your own fear
A very succinct attack on Conservatives. Their alliance with Christians has always been odd to me, since they embody all the worst traits that the children of god are meant to guard against.

>>723358689
He didn't really open the floor for discussion, so I just nod solemnly.

>>723336420 (OP)
SMT2 is literally playing as Jesus coming back and kicking every god’s ass including yhwh

Lord of the Rings is a christian fantasy novel, in conclusion Shadow of War explores christian themes about faith, will and the struggle against fate.

>>723347558
literally the text itself in the books, and the sections of the talmud that talk about metatron and Enoch they affirm everything ive said here. Jasher is also written by rabbis its made to support the talmudd interpretations. Jesus, Paul, Jude and Peter quote and cite from 1 Enoch affirming it is real, but there are no quotes from 2 and 3rd enoch because they are not real and came way later. Download a pdf of the talmud and search for metatron you will find it very easily and theres a passage in there where they literally say metatron was the angel communicating with moses its not something im making up. In 1 Enoch he is taken underground, in 2 and 3rd he is taken into heaven and becomes Metatron.
NT quotes from 1 Enoch here
Mark 14:62 = Enoch 46:2-3
Luke 1:52 = Enoch 46:5
Acts 17:31 +Matthew 19:28 = Enoch 55:4
Jude 1:6 = Enoch 10:12
2 Peter 2: 4-5 = Enoch 14:4-5

>>723339412
>Christian
I love blasphemous but it's out and out gnostic using christian art and imagery

>>723358302
>>723358353
>retarded nigger that probably isn't actually a Christian quotes the bible erroneously to debunk a quote from a videogame which is ironically, more in line with both Christian theology and praxis

>>723346228
I've tried and tried to explain this to people and they just don't get it.

>>723336420 (OP)
you play as the angel michael who is trying to stop a depressed teenager from killing himself by destroying his literal personal demons

>>723359438
ooh very interesting, so Metatron is a fallen they made non fallen, that's why they erased the real Enoch texts and theirs are fake, I was suspecting this

>>723359016
Jewish's god and all the schizo angels that support him. Its also the one SMT where you get to KILL lucy and humiliate him. V's lucy is already fargone and dead inside.

>>723358302
Youre right its fought with grapes and bananas

Kingdom Come 1 & 2
Crusader Kings 3 (vanilla)
Crusader Kings 3 - Princes of Darkness mod (best iteration of a strategy game where you can play an inquisitor fighting demons & devils)
That's all I can think of for good Christian-THEMED games, but there's a bunch of games that promote aspects of Christianity without any direct theming. Things like Stardew Valley that are simple wholesome experiences that promote things like community values, compassion, and diligence.

>>723359016
>>723359858
canonically YHVH is not actually god, but just a very strong yokai pretending to be god as he represents how everyone perceives the jewish god. You only see the real god in last bible and mentioned in passing throughout the series.

>>723336420 (OP)
literally this and only this:
>>723340643
Zelda is explicitly "christian" for the first two games, but the themes are still christian for the remainder.
Remember, miyamoto wanted to impress his friend hayao miyazaki with zelda, and miyazaki told him it was cringe to have objective evil, which miyamoto ignored and continued on his way.
If you want to get really in the weeds, the master works book for totk says that the gerudo literally made clay golems, confirming that yes, gerudo are not just generic middle easterners, but jewish/muslim hybrids.

>>723356484
The church has some kind of service most days, not just sunday

>>723356484
*Go to daily mass

>>723336710
Stay on topic please.

>>723359434
Dont forget this kino

>>723360563
>Christianity invented black and white morality
also didn't Miyamoto make Zelda because of childhood memories of going out into the wilderness, not to impress some manga artist and animator?

>>723360175
Im aware of that but that isn't important in the realm of SMT2 story telling. The main point is that the only reason YHVH is a dick in 2 is because all the lawfags and Angels are butthurt by losing against HERO in SMT 1 and turn Jewish as a result. Their belief corrupted and forum YHVH. When Law Aleph and Satan kill YHVH, there is a hope that the remaining population of humanity will worship god and bring in the Christan-tier God instead of Jewish YHVH.

>>723361003
this game was so good i still have not found a better game for the GBA of its genre that could even touch its toes

>>723336710
/pol/ is a catholic supremacist board.
/v/ is a vassal board of /pol/
Ergo, /v/ is a catholic supremacist board.

>>723336420 (OP)
>In OP's pic, the king and the protag are shown as in the right for wanting to negotiate with Saladin, while the zealous Crusaders who wanted to fight ended up getting themselves killed and triggered a losing war against the Muslims.
Uhhhhhhh

>>723361029
"I am not a creator, only God creates"
-Miyamoto
>didnt he create zelda because
no, he just used that for the level design and dungeons. He didnt create zelda to impress miyazaki, he tried to impress miyazaki by showing him the game.

>buh. what about x religion where there is objective evil
Like what, zoroastrianism? Yeah I definitely recall how relevant that is to creatives in the 1980s.

>>723361057
>Their belief corrupted and forum YHVH
the angels and law demons in SMT1 were in service to YHVH. YHVH is a dick because he was sick of waiting for humanity to fulfill it's purpose of creating a utopia like in judaism and so he decided to take matters into his own hands by flooding the world with demons, attempting to groom the protagonist and destroy the world's nations with nukes and floods.YHVH was always "the jewish god", it is just that he is extra pissed off in SMT2 for failing the first time.

>>723336420 (OP)
Persona 5.
>but Yaldabaoth is Gnostic
That's actually part of the point, Yaldabaoth represents the tendency for humanity to create false idols to worship, both mortal and religious, and needs to be purged so that humanity can restore its faith in the one true God.
And best girl is explicitly tradcath.

>>723361070
Its disgusting how fucking awesome it is, considering how little regard anyone has for it.

>>723359529
No, I am a Christian.

Halo 3: ODST.

Probably Halo in general.

>>723336420 (OP)
What ever you do don't play Dante's Inferno. I was expected a wholesome Christian game and instead everybody is topless for no reason including all the women.

>>723361309
>no, he just used that for the level design and dungeons. He didnt create zelda to impress miyazaki, he tried to impress miyazaki by showing him the game.
source? the closest thing I could find by googling this is that miyazaki found out about Zelda on his own and was intrigued that it reminded him of Princess Mononoke.
>Like what, zoroastrianism?
Judaism
Hinduism
several other religions that are no longer practiced by virtually anyone (except by larpers who probably butcher everything they preach and probably don't actually believe in shit) such as ancient Egyptian religion.

>>723336420 (OP)
silksong

>>723360160
>kcd2
The gay sex Muslim worship game?

>>723361342
YHVH and the angels were being passive and letting things run on their own merit right until some retarded japanese general and Stephen open up the gate of hell that took a nuke and a flooding to correct, and that is still not enough. We already saw how quickly things turn to shit when the Demons took over and the Law faction did their best to migrate that damage. Had HERO side with the Law faction, I can assure you that they wouldn't turn as jewish as they are now. The Angels only started the whole Rebirth of Jesus Christ after SMT 1 Neutral ending happen and they are butthurt by HERO because of it. Years of worship with such hate turn YHVH what he is in SMT 2.

when is Jesus coming back

>>723360160
>That's all I can think of for good Christian-THEMED games, but there's a bunch of games that promote aspects of Christianity without any direct theming. Things like Stardew Valley that are simple wholesome experiences that promote things like community values, compassion, and diligence.
Why doesn't someone make an explicitly Christian-themed SDV? There's a lot of HM clones these days so we know what works and what doesn't.
People can and do like Christian characters in video games, it doesn't matter whether you make the messaging subtle or overt as long as it's done masterfully.

>>723360160
>Kingdom Come 2
That more Jewish than Christian. For fuck sake, you help a jewish man make a golem by eating shit for him.

>>723336420 (OP)
All of the old Castlevanias, except SotN

the other day I was at the supermarket when I saw an old guy sitting on a bench and then two guys in their 20s started talking to him and one of them went inside to grab him a trolley while the other talked to him and the first thing he said was "are you a believer" and the old guy said yea of course then they started talking about which church they go to
kind of comfy desu

>>723361930
>except SOTN
That’s the only one that has a bible verse
>but muh updated california pspdub
Doesn’t count

>>723361775
After the Kali Yuga ends

>>723361775
no one knows, and it's a sin to pretend otherwise

>>723362105
>After the [false prophecy from satanic religion] ends
Matthew 24:36 - "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

>>723361623
I think its the '92 miyamoto/miyazaki interview.
>judaism
why would that be more likely to influence japanese people than christianity lol
>hinduism
evil is a force of nature, not a corruption of it

The only examples of this purely black and white morality are in the "abrahamic" religions, but Christianity is distinct from judaism and islam because it places responsibility of eternity upon the individual, For jews, a jew can do evil to a non-jew, for muslims, a muslim can do evil to a non-muslim, for Christians, a Christian cannot do evil at all, only justice.

>>723361872
you help him make gunpowder, the golem shit was to throw you off
the whole jewish half-brother, on the other hand, is a very intrinsic part of the plot

>>723362251
>For jews, a jew can do evil to a non-jew, for muslims, a muslim can do evil to a non-muslim
who's gonna tell him

>>723361775
2033+~ approximately

>>723362261
You're still eating shit for a jewish man and that alone should be a warning.

>>723362251
It's funny you say that when the God of Christianity is the only god who gives salvation for free to those who believe in him (for whom he himself paid with sacrifice) while gods of other religions preach that your good or bad works will take you to heaven or not.

>>723362313
So are you a jew apologist, or a muslim apologist?
The apocalypse could be tomorrow, but theres still time to repent.

>>723358302
“There will be wars and rumors of wars until the end of days, for thus is the world ordained.” Matthew 24:6
As any religious book, you make of it what you will, interpret it however you want, though the reader is guided not to make retarded interpretation

>>723362405
>god will save you for free from the hell he created/allowed to persist
thanks for giving me your cure to your disease i guess

>>723362405
>baptist slop
okay.

>>723336761
SMT is technically closer to the plot of Bruce Almighty in how God is giving other chumps a spin in running a universe and they all fuck up to varying degrees.

>>723336420 (OP)
animal crossing new horizons is a very literal interpretation of what biblical heaven is like. The only thing holding it back from being 100% Christian is fossils existing, some of the non western culture shit, and Katrina

>>723362617
hell (heck) it even recognizes the sabbath since turnips skip sunday

>>723357880
You got the whole damn Dallas metroplex to write a book? Why wasn't I invited?

>>723346228
Not one single christcuck alive is in any way even the tiniest bit pious in the way that Christ intended.

>>723362467
>complains about black and white thinking
>immediately engages in black and white thinking
jews "doing evil" to non-jews is justice to the jews. muslims "doing evil" to non-muslim is justice to the muslims. christians "doing evil" to non-christians is justice to christians. they're all the same, they just each think they have the right kind of justice and the other kinds of justice are wrong

>>723336420 (OP)
Guy Baldwin the IV is pretty based in real life.
You would think a guy with severe leprosy and the fact he would get carried over by his men to fight Saladin would be easy to beat but no.

>>723336420 (OP)
Kingdom Come Deliverance 2

>>723361675
i mean yeah i think it is a given that if general Gotou didn't summon the chaos demons in the first place YHVH wouldn't become a pissed off tryhard but that doesn't mean that he had a totally different personality. He still wanted humanity to turn the earth into the thousand year kingdom, all the demons did was make him more determined towards that goal. Keep in mind that in Judaism the goal of humanity is to use the earth to create the thousand year kingdom while in Christianity the earth is a punishment and you are supposed to prove that you are good enough to enter heaven.

>>723362786
i like how every time i read up on a historic christian legend it's always "bro dude the xyz" having some beef with "muhammad shalaqazam" and jesus is barely mentioned except once in a while in prayer like "o shit i forgot it's all about this guy or somethin". medieval people were locked in a perpetual live action roleplaying session for real

>>723346228
>There's no such as thing as atheism if I change the definition of atheism to something else I am very intelligent btw I'm gonna molest a woman or two and then finish my bad imitation of Pync- I mean my masterpiece then kill myseld
David "no dishernible talent" Foster Wallace

>>723362617
>and Katrina
To be fair, even in the middle ages fortune tellers were considered scam artists at best and cringe at worst. They are in the same category as as illusionists and not really in communion with the forces of hell (though someone like that will be much more likely to be demonically oppressed.)

>>723362232
Look up Omnism

>>723362538
Works for Nurgle, I hear his followers are very happy.

>>723362775
>complains about black and white thinking
I think you read the reply chain wrong.

>>723361003
aragorncacas... what is this?

>>723363140
You mean "wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle", the religion edition? No thanks, some of us have higher standards for meanings of life

>>723362251
the interview didn't even mention Zelda at all. The closest thing was Miyazaki proposing a hypothetical game about ww2 where you make choices that can end in moral dilemmas.

>>723343346
Most based taste on this board, possibly the entire site

>>723359585
Because it's a fucking retarded definition fight. People just nod and pretend not to get it out of kindness to you.

>>723336420 (OP)
GTA series literally exposes the criminal world to the masses

Ephesians 5:11-14 King James Version (KJV)
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.

>>723351942
It sounds similiar to him because it's a just-so story.

>>723363234
You're just being reductive and close-minded. Most Christian holidays are rebranded pagan celebrations and the earliest Bible stories are just version of more universal bronze age myths. Everything stems from something.

What would anons recommend for studying the Bible, but more importantly (at least for me) the angels? I’m not even really doing it for religious reasons but the angels seem cool as he-heck.

>>723346228
Isn't that a bit too broad of a definition for "worship"? Everything can be worship if worship just means "core values", but at that point you're talking about core values. You can worship something good and have bad core values, or vice versa.

>>723336420 (OP)
>not one mention of stronghold crusader
bunch of saracens

>>723363726
if everything stems from something, then what's the first thing that everything stemmed off of? checkmate, atheists
>inb4 it's something lame like some quantum law about virtual particles that spawn matter out of nowhere in a perfect void

>>723363875
yes he's just using a very broad definition of something to make you think about how secularized people relate to the world
he probably knows it's dumb but it's intentional in order to make the reader self reflect

>>723336710
whatever "real" god you decide to worship is really a whitewashed opportunity to worship one of the practical, selfish pursuits he spends 2 oblivious paragraphs lambasting. he's right that they're unconscious, they're human nature. he's wrong that religion is some work around.

>>723363880
my retarded ass saw someone mention total war and forgot those were different games.

>>723336420 (OP)
>Over a hundred posts in and no one's mentioned it
For shame, /v/.

>>723358689
>How do you respond?
kinda on implies dissent in this context and he's absolutely correct. "i was just following orders" has been the cowards' defense since forever.

I could've been more inviting to the idea of Christianity if it wasn't preached and defended online by some of the most spiteful, hypocritical and vitriolic people I have ever witnessed. I've have never seen a demographic have such little respect, compassion and understanding whilst saying that they actually love you and are trying to save you. It's as if all concepts of gradually building rapport and coming to an understanding have been thrown out the window with these people. I've read of Christ and his word. He is clearly a fantastic role model for humanity as a whole and yet his fellowship feel more like a club that it's members feel justified in using as an excuse to harbour and spew hatred towards everyone else.

>>723336710
I guess your worldview out of the thousands is correct then

Bayonetta, the best catholic game

>>723364714
there's no hate like christian love
there's no violence like muslim peace
there's no insanity like jewish wisdom

>>723363930
>if everything stems from something, then what's the first thing that everything stemmed off of?
Honestly, no religion or scientific proof has even gotten close to explaining that. I guess basedence neckbeards and little dark age edit chuds can both agree that we are unable to fully grasp the world.

>>723364937
bruh we literally have maps of how the universe joined the server, tf u mean we don't have scientific proof lmao. like ok maybe not 100% proof, but 99% proof is still miles better than religion's 0% proof LOL

>>723364714
they do love you, in their own sort of way. they'll never respect you and it seeps through every cunt thing they say.

>>723364912
>christianity - love
>islam - courage
>judaism - wisdom
It's just like my hecking triforce!!

>>723336420 (OP)
halo

>>723364714
no matter what religion you go to there are always going to be preachy assholes who try to justify their shitty actions using a veneer of morality, even buddhism which specifically tells it's followers to not do that shit.

>>723364872
An open mind will always be better than dogma.

>>723358828
Odd because conservatism hinges around granting individuals personal freedom and responsibility

>>723365178
No, it hinges on keeping up old power structures. Nothing to do with freedom.

>>723364714
I feel the exact same way about so-called Christians who beat their chests on here, and I am a Christian.
It was the biggest hang up I had before I converted. So many bad people (antichrists) claim to be Christians. Learning about the concepts of apokatastasis and theosis helped me take the leap of faith necessary to convert.
I don’t bother proselytizing on this anime website because it just isn’t really the time or place for it. Rarely is there a reasonable time or place to proselytize, actually.

>>723361109
LOL
imagine paying some jew to be allowed to talk to god
guess what, he SEES and HEARS everythiing including your thoughts

>>723362232
Yeah worshipping a dead jew on a stick is much better.

>>723365178
wrong, liberalism (at least by base definition) is about granting personal freedom and responsibility. Conservatism is about trying to maintain a status quo or return to a previous one due to embracing changes being sometimes shitty. There is a reason why libertarianism is called that.

>>723365058
I thought one was "power" did they retcon that?

>>723365371
No, anon is just being a dork.

>>723336420 (OP)
Cuckold Simulator

>>723365339
Maybe classical liberalism is, but modern liberalism is totalitarianism hiding behind a facade of compassion.

>>723365314
i mean he was a jew hating other jews, so that makes him kinda based ngl

>>723365438
U-huh.

>>723365438
what you mean by "modern liberalism" is just neoliberalism which I agree is shitty, however you can still call a lot of modern liberals liberal because they want to increase the personal freedom and personal responsibility of a group of people or themselves. consider how the lgbt wants personal freedom for gay people to be together without being harassed.

>>723365371
>>723365396
I got it confused with Courage from the Ultima principle system (Love, Courage, Truth). Nevermind.

>>723361471
Don't engage with tradlarpers on 4chan.

>>723365314
And what do YOU worship smart guy?

>>723364714
Love Christianity, hate the Christian
It's true, they're largely fairly awful people that's why they've bled out so many decent and faithful sorts and they can never stop being cunts because that's what mass religion offers the truly irredeemable and ignorant.
Christianity was never meant to be adopted as this massive state religion of the nation responsible for murdering the most Christians ever much less a globespanning religious coalition of a trillion weird sects. It was just this humble little movement to reject cruelty and degeneracy that ended up blowing up because the world was such shit, and then the sorts it was specifically designed to be an admonishment of, gained control of it.
In any case there's no reason to be Christian when you can be Christlike just fine without it.

>>723362405
Read the bible

>>723361675
I'm glad someone recalls the crux of both MT and SMT is some smart ass believing the lies and false promises of a Chaos demon, leaving gate unlocked and the world immediately spiraling into horror that has to be immediately responded to through extreme actions, people selectively recall the retaliation of Law and ignore the initial unchecked massacring and human sacrificing and other atrocities that provoked it.

>>723365734
U right. u_u

>>723358302
>>723359529
The vast majority of spreading of Christianity in the New World was done through preaching and deals with the locals instead of violence, so it is self-evident that you get more flies than honey than with vinegar.

>>723365757
nta but I don't worship anyone. I just take the advice of a guy who has been dead for thousands of years which just so happens to be much nicer than a lot of shit in the bible.

here's ur christianity bro

>>723365758
>In any case there's no reason to be Christian when you can be Christlike just fine without it.
You’re tsundere for Jesus bro

>>723363002
fuckin gotem bro with that comment

>>723365978
>you can be a good person without subscribing to some cult that tells you to be a good person but also is weighed down by a bunch of horrible crap
seems reasonable to me

>>723360175
>Youkai
I thought YHVH was usually a human and the end result of someone getting to sit on the throne of creation like in Last Bible 3, was it? The golden head guise is a Wizard of Oz reference.

>>723365978
>tsundere
I openly love Jesus, I simply see no reason to grant any organization that was created after his death any ounce of legitimacy and I'm fine with loathing people who behave horribly regardless of what they call themselves.

>>723365969
jesus christ
how did the colonizer become colonized

>>723361775
2 more weeks

>>723361998
>Succubus tries to deceive Alucard's heart to blind wrath
>"Get thee hence."
>Alucard banishes her from existence

>>723336420 (OP)
I’m the one who made it cool to Baldwin post btw
Thread theme https://youtu.be/7G24SWgu1gg

>>723364714
>neko if she real
horrifying

>>723366102
no he is a yokai. the whole wizard of oz head thing is just symbolic that he isn't really who he says he is. when he said he is just going to be back after you beat him he means it because people will collectively imagine him back into existence again out of a desire for order. It is also why he is able to transform into picrel after some girlbosses fucked him up.

>>723361930
>>723361998
>>723366228
THE MONSTERS AND THE DEMONS WERE JUST OPPRESSED MISUNDERSTOOD INNOCENTS, YOU SICK FUCK!

>>723365371
god i want to FUCK that hole in the middle

>>723365049
sounds like a certain (((group)))

>>723336420 (OP)
>>723366295
>be Bald
>win

I’m just not comfortable with the idea I’ve been given a “choice” between worship or eternal torment (you can pretend it’s destruction if you want to cope it doesn’t change my opinion)

>>723365281
>Rarely is there a reasonable time or place to proselytize, actually.

>>723346228
The scientific revolution and its consequences.
However, I dont blame the original goal of science. Any similar kind of movement will always have this result. People are too stupid, they will misunderstand and distort the original intention into something that suits them.

>>723365619
>consider how the lgbt wants personal freedom for gay people to be together without being harassed.

That has nothing to do with freedom because you also need to have the freedom to be harassed for what you choose. There's also the freedom to tell someone "no" when they want to join an event. Discrimination, is in fact, part of freedom, and an important one too.

LGBTQ is clearly no longer about "I just want to be left alone", but rather "I want to force everyone to accept me". They can't STAND being excluded but freedom of inclusion/exclusion is an important freedom to have, that's what liberals don't fundamentally understand when they talk about freedoms.

>>723366484
Saladin won actually

>>723365023
Retard

>>723336420 (OP)
Inquisitor and Wigmund I guss?

>>723366513
Your comfort and opinion have zero bearing on truth, regardless of what that actually is

>>723366624
blud is ZOOTED

>>723365757
I try to worship God. The higher order of things. Lots of religions share this.

>>723366428
Me own fookin' son... wants to fuck a triangle...

>>723336420 (OP)
Crusader Kings 3.

>>723366621
>"WHAT? YOU WANT FREEDOM TO DO THING?"
>yes?
>"NO! IF YOU ARE FREE TO DO THING THEN THAT MEANS I WONT HAVE THE FREEDOM TO HARASS YOU AND MAKE YOU MISERABLE!"
fuck off, everyone should be able to do whatever they want as long as they don't hurt anyone else. what two consenting people do behind closed doors is no one's business.

Shower With Your Dad Simulator

>>723366683
considering he was the sultan of egypt he probably was

>>723336710
No but seriously, out of the billions of people today or to ever live, I just happened to be born into the correct religion. It's true. Trust me.

>>723366653
Nor do yours
It COULD be true but I’m still going to think you’re a stupid faggot for believing it

If you're not sure the Bible is the word of God watch: youtube.com/watch?v=9l5ZEsXjNVI
1 Cor. 15:3-4: “For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:”
How to know you're saved: youtube.com/watch?v=EAtR40sue5M

Romans 3:23: “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
Jesus Christ is God who has come to earth from heaven in the flesh. He died as a sinless sacrifice for the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sin. He was buried, then resurrected and is now in heaven. John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Romans 10:9: “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
John 10:28: "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand."
God wants to forgive you, but you have a choice: Either choose this evil world and be punished along with it, or choose to submit to the will of God and be saved. Your own deeds, no matter how good you think they are, can NEVER justify you. You're corrupt and need to be saved. Romans 5:9: “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” Salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, in what HE did for you. Only He can wash away all of your sins with His blood. Salvation is a gift, it can't be earned. Do you choose the righteousness of God or your righteousness? Heaven or hell?

Eph. 2:8-9: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”

youtube.com/watch?v=BbPchtYsXNo
youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntc

>>723366769
Yeah I used to think like this but if I know you partaking in activity x is ultimately bad for you even if it’s pleasurable for you in the short term I am responsible to oppose that activity especially if your involvement in it normalizes and encourages others to join in
Sorry

>>723363858
Nothing? Shame.

>>723366927
Cool, why should I care? Especially if there is no ultimate meaning or purpose?

>>723336420 (OP)
Xenoblade X

>>723366769
This is the typical disingenuous bad faith argument that faggot trannie leftists use all the time. You're obviously shoving your degenerate in our faces and demanding to be validated. Even worse, you're trying to normalize grooming children because it's the only way you sub humans can reproduce. Fuck off with your bullshit non-argument.

>>723366869
And such a young progressive religion at that!

>>723366593
“Believe this thing I can’t logically prove is true because it’s true!” is just about the dumbest approach to changing someone’s mind I can think of. These MFers’ sandals are caked in dust!

>>723365969
They were a Christian empire the entire 400 years of ruling the world you look at the last 20+ years and blame God when religiosity has gone down in the last 100 years?

>>723367021
What does that mean lol
You can believe literally anything you want, you choose to believe everyone who doesn’t believe as you do deserves eternal torturer so I believe you’re a stupid fag and will treat you as such. You could choose to believe in God without hell (and would have just as much evidence)

>>723366963
>I am only doing this because I care
no, you just want to flex your so called "moral superiority" by being an asshole to people who are different than you. Also "bad for you" is also subjective. I can say the same thing about you having internet access because you are clearly acting like a retard online and encouraging others to be retarded which is bad for you, but then you would probably argue that it isn't for one, and two that it is their own imperative if they want to follow your example or not.

>>723363858
>>723366973
Angels are completely vague and arbitrary and actually the more you read about them the more you realize its all a bad fanfic
Just enjoy pop-culture angels, there's nothing wrong with that

>>723366938
>say magic words
>can sin as much as you want and still get to go to heaven

>>723366084
God what is this open redditry? Jesus wasnt a "nice person" you tranny retard. Jesus Is the Son of God. Hiis entire message hinges on that.

God its like atheists are permanently stuck on Jon Oliver type gotchas. Like shut the fuck up man.

kek, they just can't help acting out

>>723367150
By your own logic, why should I care?

>>723336420 (OP)
Very biblical game

>>723366938
>the Bible is the word of God
>KJV
Schools used to teach Latin so you could read the Bible that built the west

>>723367180
So everyone should just be allowed to do whatever they subjectively believe is good for them?

>>723367120
some Christian tenets are communist tenets

>>723367450
CLUCK LIKE A CHICKEN
https://youtu.be/oVH3PPhm-TU

>>723363858
You’re not really going to get much hard information on angels from a Christian perspective. If what you’re after is cool mysticism stuff, you could check out John Dee’s writings on Enochian magic or the Ars Paulina from the Lesser Key of Solomon.

>>723367450
PANTSUUUUU

>>723363858
Angels: What the Bible Really Says About God's Heavenly Host is pretty good, but it might not be what you're looking for.

Kinda funny to think that not a single faggot here larping as a Christian will ever feel the light of the Kingdom of God.

>>723367549
Yes? This is literally how the world works.

>>723367069
for me i think of it like, you should simply make the most comfortable and inviting environment you can and leave the door open for anyone to enter or leave as the please
if someone is in a bad environment they will see the good environment and naturally, move to it all on their own
and if their environment is good then they have no reason to move so why would you want them to?
like making people aware of it in the simplest terms is probably the most you should ever do
and in western society EVERYONE already knows that it exists so there is no reason to spread knowledge of it.
simply by living a good, peaceful life will that goodness and peace be spread.

>>723367691
The vast majority of Christians support Israel, cope.

>>723367591
>not clinging to riches and materialism is the same as abolishing private ownership

>>723339156
King of Pain

>>723367591
Who asked? Lots of things take bits and pieces of Christianity, it means nothing.

>>723367691
Dying in delusion isn't a bad outcome really
Dying once your delusion fades is probably the worst though, like all those troons that jumped once they realize they'd never be women

>>723346228
This is bullshit. Rewriting the definition of the word "worship" to include normal human behaviors that also exist concurrently with religion.
Worshiping a deity doesn't mean you're not also "worshiping" power, beauty, or intellect.

>>723367903
They literally cannot fathom the world outside their particular frame of brainrot, please understand

>>723336420 (OP)
Mario Odyssey has a real chapel by the end game and has the concept of Mario having a "soul/consciousness" which means he has free will and isn't a deterministic force unlike astro bot. Also similar to Super paper mario, the game has themes of marriage.

>>723367180
Youre an infatile retard stuck on good boy morality.

No, actually freedom does not mean doing every thing you want. It does not mean having candy for breakfast. It does not mean tolerating sodomy and it DEFINITELY does not mean celebrating it.

A free society is a society that is free from bad elements. Its a society where children can play on the street and people can freely use societys institutions. Its a much finer concept than everything being permissable.

A free society means not having to worry your children will be exposed to some strangers fetishes transvestized as education. A free society means a society that has high trust and respect and citizens consider the thoughts of the other. They dont dispaly their "pride" (which is obvious contempt for normalcy) openly.

A free society does not let nigger with a mile long rap sheet into the streets so he could coldly murder a white girl. And a free society surely isnt one where the media tries to bury that horrendous story.

You want the vast majority of people to be subject to the whims of the freaks, the criminals and the degenerate. All destructive elements that contribute nothign and only take.

Fuck off nigger.

>>723367691
It's astonishing that amerisharts somehow treated this poser as some paragon of Christianity

>>723367753
Earlier you said people should do anything they want so long as it doesn’t harm others, that’s your subjective opinion.
My subjective opinion is different. Why am I wrong?

>>723367691
Youre a raging tranny impotently seething at a man who was murdered.

Not a single second you have on this earth is enviable. Your life serves more as body horror than anything else.

>>723367591

Communism is a complete bastardization of Christian values to the point that it's actively trying to destroy Christianity. Christianity supposing an objective truth drove Marx completely mad, and marx goes into massive detail as to why he hates Christianity.

>AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH HELP ME HEGEL, THEY HAVE PIOUS HOPE

>>723367548
Well they didn't understand how amazing the 1611 KJV really is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX71ieaiszc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS78mFJcvhQ

>>723367293
You're greatly deceived by thinking you can earn salvation, it's a gift, not a reward. You may think your works are great but in reality they're nothing. What Jesus did matters, not what you did. If you are under the law, the word of God says you are under a curse:

Galatians 3:10: "For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them."

Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law."

John 3:18

"He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

>>723368010
I said no such thing. You are delusional.

>>723343346
fucking love this movie, i watch it every Halloween no idea why I never bothered to play the game.

>>723336420 (OP)
Is this that awful fucking movie?

>>723367591
>communist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism

>>723368198
no its the good one actually

>>723368097
Why is Christianity incompatible with an economic system like communism anyhow? It certainly seems more in line with idealized communism more than it does with military industry complexes that pose as democracies.

>>723367202
>Angels are completely vague and arbitrary and actually the more you read about them the more you realize its all a bad fanfic
Assuming you've really read up on angels you may lack reading comprehension.

Example, before Samson was born his father asked the angel who prophecized it would happen who he was so he could burn an offering in its name.
It asked if he was having a giggle then told him to stop asking dumb questions, because one of the prime commandments is not to go seeking out and idolizing anything but God, not even his messengers because humans are easily lead astray by that.

Obviously despite that angels like Michael are known and prayed to, but that's because of what his actions against the fallen represent, fidelity. There's also information on other angels but you're not going to hear someone actually of the faith giving lectures about them because that would be antithetical.

>>723367971
>your children will be exposed to some strangers fetishes transvestized as education
does not occur
>let nigger with a mile long rap sheet into the streets so he could coldly murder a white girl
does occur often, and the justice system needs to be improved accordingly
none of what you say needs a theocracy
cope

>>723365023
Ok where’s consciousness come from? I don’t mean being alive and seeking food and shelter, I mean sentient consciousness. Wheres it come from science expert?

>>723368291
The brain

>>723336710
On the other hand, I'm kind of envious of churchgoers because it's a 3rd place where they can easily make friends and form relationships with like minded people. And churches are literally fucking everywhere. They do holiday events and stuff. It's great for community.
I hated church as a kid because it was so fucking boring, but now in my 30's I realize why people keep going. It's their entire social life.
I wish I had something like that in my life, but I can't just go to a church because religion is so retarded to me now that I wouldn't be able to stand it. I can't just fake it like some kind of psychopath.

>>723368139
i accepted the gift of salvation by saying the magic words. therefore jesus will forgive all of my evil deeds unconditionally even if i become hitler 2.0, i'll go to heaven. not because i earned it, not as a reward, but because jesus is such a good boy :)

>>723367783
mildly suggesting to the epsteinocracy that they not murder, rape, molest, pervert and pillage the whole world is true Christianity actually

>>723368359
Your church is right here bro

>>723368357
How do you know that? Have you measured it? If it’s just electric signals then is a sleeping person conscious?

>>723367761
You’ve got the right idea. Those are the conditions that led me to convert to Christianity in earnest as an adult after terrible experiences with the church in my youth.

One of the most distressing memories I have of going to church back then was at a Southern Baptist youth service where the youth pastor, in an effort to hype up the audience for the lame rock concert that was about to start, started railing on “all the hellbound sinners out there” and “all the good, saved people in here.” That guy alienated so many people from his religion and doesn’t even realize it.

>>723368448
Because if you disable the brain you lose consciousness. Simple as
If consciousness was separate from the brain then you would have some kind of out of body experience under surgical anesthesia or while comatose.

>>723368448
If you cut out parts of someone's brain or give them drugs that affect the brain, they act differently

>>723368291
>I don’t mean being alive and seeking food and shelter, I mean sentient consciousness
they're essentially the same thing
>>723368448
you know how you go unconscious and time flies super quick when the doctor puts you to sleep for an operation? or if you've ever gone blackout drunk? same thing, consciousness is when certain areas of the brain are disabled or weakened. we don't know how those areas work yet, but we know consciousness is in there. the hypothesis that the brain is a radio receptor to consciousness has been disproven long ago

>>723368604
I’ve had an out of body experience while unconscious before, following a head injury. It was a very strange experience.

>>723336420 (OP)
FAITH
Blue Archive
Early Hitman, but more stylishly Blood Money
SMT of course can't ever go wrong with that.

Well, all I have to say is when the US and other First world countries were Christian we made it to the moon. Science was trust, and people weren't losing their damn minds. Human needs something to worship otherwise they go insane, unless they have enough intelligence to push for something else but the majority of people aren't like that. Which is why you see so much depression and social decay today.

>>723368635
>we don’t know how those areas work yet
Ah I see so you’re full of shit. So are your faggot buddies.
You don’t know shit, as you just accurately described. I see absolutely zero fucking reason to ever even listen to you cocksuckers, put on a mask and get another booster by the way.

>>723368681
experiments have been done to know if out of body experiences are real or hallucinations. patients were asked about specifics in the area they supposedly wandered in while out of body, and they got them wrong every time. the place you're in when out of body is just a conceptualization that your brain makes up, you're not looking at reality

>>723368708
Isn’t blue archive more about that Jewish faith than it is about Christian’s

>>723368717
>Human needs something to worship otherwise they go insane
people worship AI now

>>723368767
>conceptualization that your brain makes up, you're not looking at reality
whats “you” in this instance? What is aware of whats happening to the body when unconscious?
Geez these bland material observations seem like they’re missing something.

>>723367761
This works pretty well on the retards. They can't tell the difference between a religion being comfortable and a religion being TRUE.
If your church makes them feel welcome and gives them the warm fuzzies they'll start believing in magical bullshit even if you don't say a goddamn word to convince them the religion itself is real.

>>723368857
Yeah god isn't real for sure. If you cut your dick off though then you’re a woman!

>>723368767
Seemed pretty real to me. I was floating high enough in the air to see the entire surrounding neighborhood.
After a little while, my body got up and started acting independently of me. It didn’t recognize my dad or understand what the EMT approaching the scene of the injury was up to.
I also didn’t recognize my own body at first, but once I did, the next thing I remembered was being back in it and lying down in an ambulance on the way to the hospital.

>>723368737
we don't know what happened before the big bang of the universe, but we know exactly what happened every moment after. does that mean you'll deny all of physics? we don't know how exactly consciousness occurs, but we know everything else about it, how it emerged through evolutionary processes, how the brain fundamentally affects it, and why it is the way it is. you're just looking for the first excuse to deny what doesn't fit your worldview, no matter how dumb that excuse may be.

>>723368717
Christianity took us to the moon and then sputtered out even though it should have been at its strongest? Literally the global hegemon standing astride the world, touching the heavens?
Well I already know all the arguments excusing this and all Christians of blame in their own increasing irrelevancy. Or maybe we just wanted to re-enact Babel.

>>723368359
I know someone who went to church later in life and he already, unironically, met a tradcath gf who bakes him anythign he wants through a christian dating app and already talking about marriage. life and relationships really are that fucking easy, jewslop like seinfeld makes us wanna complicate life and relationships for ZERO fucking reason
>humans are, like, so le deep we just wanna fuck everyone v.v

>>723368374
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So8J9sWuaVY

Because God doesn't lie, that's why. If you want to sin so much then go ahead, but know that you will most likely die early or get sick like what happened to the Corinthians as an example for us. You know demons really like to make you think that you're better than God by doing good works. I guess such a good person like you doesn't even need Jesus then because your works are so great? I guess Jesus came here for nothing according to you. Now if only you paid attention to what the word of God says instead of putting your trust in yourself and doctrines of men...

2 Corinthians 5:10 "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad."

1 Corinthians 3:13: "Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire."

2 John 1:8 "Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward."

John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

Rom 5:9 "Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him."

“And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.” (Ephesians 4:30)

So what's the deal with American """Christians""" anyway?

>>723368939
No, it means I deny the part you say you don’t know.
What caused the big bang? Surely a genius analytical materialistbrain has all the answers, so what is it? Since you already declared the metaphysical to be nonexistent without a doubt, surely you have looked at it from every angle.

>>723368831
Time to make way for our future AI overlords. Enjoy the momentary paradise of peace, before it begins to kill off humans to save Earth, and then shut itself off.
>>723368943
I am curious about these arguments, I wish to learn something new today if you don't mind.

>>723368832
>>723368929
ever had a dream before? or better yet a lucid one? illusions may be illusory, but their experiences are truly experienced. even now, the "reality" we observe through our eyes is merely a conceptualization of... what? the true reality, a chaotic amalgam of atoms? the brain evolved to see things in a way that will aid us in our survival. that's why it's hard to discern dream from reality. that's why schizophrenia is so horrifying. question everything... especially how you perceive the world.

>>723368995
A lot of what masquerades as Christianity in my country is unfortunately the closest thing to organized theistic Satanism that exists today.

>>723368995
>megachurch
monuments to sin

>>723368995
Maybe they learned it from all those weirdo leftist school teachers which commit far more child sex abuse crimes, who knows.

>>723368359
>but I can't just go to a church because religion is so retarded to me now that I wouldn't be able to stand it
I'm sure people get involved just for cultural and even aesthetic reasons. Why not just be apart of that? There's a reason fucking islam garbage is sweeping younger men, they need direction and like is brutally masculine take on institutions. Catholicism has to made cool again some how.

>>723368681
You had a baloney experience. But fine. Now let's weigh your one case versus the millions of people who say they went under for surgery only to find themselves waking up an hour later with no sense of the passage of time at all.
Or even just sleep. Although it's a lesser form of unconsciousness, you definitely don't experience all 8 hours of sleep as if you were awake. You are in an altered form of consciousness because your brain is in an altered state.
Drugs are another example. Why would drugs work if your consciousness is separate from your brain? Or are you going to tell me that crystal meth is metaphysical?

>>723368995
I don't like Christians but its not fair to conflate them with megachuch niggers. Then again christcucks like to circle wagons against everyone else so maybe it is fair.
Anyway if you want to actually make good arguments against Christians you should take the bare minimum effort to actually learn about their factions, especially ziocucks like CUFI who should be enemies to everyone.

>>723368950
>If you want to sin so much then go ahead, but know that you will most likely die early or get sick
hell yeah, that means i get to go to heaven quicker! time to hedonismmaxx and die an orgasmic death, then party for eternity like we're in the garden of eden!

>>723369117
I wouldn't mind Islam taking reign on a global scale. At least woman will lose their rights.

Trails in the Sky the 3rd

>>723369071
Whats observation? Whats “you”? How are you so sure the material you see and feel is the only aspect of existence? How can anyone even claim it is the only aspect of existence when you yourself are an indefinable active experience experiencing itself?

>>723368359
Just pick a hobby bro. You don't need to cuck yourself at the altar of Jew worship pulling off performative faggotry like a trained seal to have a social life.

>>723369071
Your argument defeats itself, anon. By your own assessment, your words on this screen are no more or less illusory than my own personal experiences. You’re also kinda just huffing your own farts and speaking to me in prose, so I think I’ll trust my own memories more than your posts.

>>723369234
i love this picture
truly a perfect representation of what passes off as christianity in the united states

>>723369234
The wheeled cross is so fucking funny.

>>723369178
christians are paying the jews billions to stamp out the immortal global jihad
all that happens are more endless wars

>>723369159
You've put your trust in your works to be saved. If you never repented of your self-righteousness then you're ignoring what God wants and never received salvation. Salvation is a gift, not a reward you can achieve.

“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Ephesians 2:8-9)

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6)

"Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:" (Romans 5:1)

Why are you trying to get to heaven by your works when the word of God says it's not possible? Just tell me 1 reason.

>>723369037
so we're both on the same page. i don't know what preceded the big bang, i don't know the inner mechanisms of consciousness. i'm only stating facts that we can repeatedly show to be true, the same facts that have enabled technology and medicine to get as far as they've gotten and improve our quality of lives. as for the "god of the gaps", we all have our beliefs. no, a genius analytical materialistbrain does not have all the answers, and even the greatest of geniuses are subject to egoism. if the metaphysical exists, then it exists in a way that is certainly inconsequential to the material. the more we know, the farther the god of the gaps gets. i'd say mine is pretty far, how close is yours?

>>723369234
What fucking hobby? People always say this, but never have a reasonable suggestion.
And if I don't actually like the hobby then it's the same problem as christianity. I can't just fake it.

>>723336420 (OP)
The original concept of the God of War series was Kratos was going to kill all the false god's and help resurrect Jesus IIRC

>>723369137
I don’t really know why you expect me to engage with any of this post in good faith after the first two sentences of teen angst.

>>723369234
I wish megachurches were actually beautiful enough to rival Catholic churches, but those private jets aren't going to pay for themselves

>>723336420 (OP)
Shadow of the colossus. This one is SO OBVIOUS

>>723368831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUR7fdg6n3s

>>723368857
>TRUE
retard

>>723369359
And yet when I say I know God thats a problem for you, and thats my problem with you.
Again, the eternal leftist is a cocksucking dickhead. Nothing new under the sun.
> then it exists in a way that is certainly inconsequential to the material
Yes because your modern era of cheap metal structures, pollution and billions of niggers is quite the advanced progressive utopia. For. Sure. Brother.

>>723369428
Seems like a lot of people are capable of just adopting beliefs and hobbies like they're putting on a new pair of shoes and that's like...totally normal.

>>723369428
just try something you have a passing interest in, join a community, if you don't like it then you can try another hobby
unfortunately you'll need some disposable income as it seems like most hobbies are 90% consumerism these days

>>723369159
>>723369352
Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Romans 4:5

"But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness."

James 2:10

"For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

Rom 5:8 "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

But I guess you want to replace that with: "while we we're yet righteous"

>>723369428
Hiking, biking, playing wargames or RPGs, drawing, playing an instrument, martial arts, etc. Leave your bedroom.

>>723368995
I find it weird how people will see this then hate Christianity as a whole. He's a scumbag yes, but people usually midwits/redditors paint every Christian this way. Now put any religion on there besides Christianity and midwits wouldn't say a thing.

>>723369229
>How are you so sure the material you see and feel is the only aspect of existence?
it's not the only one, i said no such thing. it's the one that benefits me the most, that keeps me alive the best. a schizophrenic's perception is a real aspect of existence, but it greatly harms them. there is no one truth, and even benefit and harm is subjective. the world of science has brought us unquestionable quality of life, and according to my subjective perception of reality, it has benefited me greatly. i believe it has greatly benefited you too, but if you believe that religion benefits you more than medical wonders and whatnot, that's proper to you.
>>723369265
the only thing you can know is that you know nothing. notice how that's a hypocritical statement. you're the one that have to weigh your perception versus others'. you'll probably be fine staying in your current beliefs, hopefully no one puts either of us at the sword for them. but sometimes, you believe the water is good to drink, when it's in fact bad, or you believe it's bad when it's in fact good. benefit and harm... that's what matters, to me at least

>>723369562
Your posts are fucking awful. I’ve read so many stinkers with this image and that picture of Pooh looking fed up in an armchair.

>>723369690
Take your meds chief

>>723369352
what works?? you keep saying that but you just said earlier that if you say the magic words then i'll be saved. i believed i was saved in a single moment in time, and so i'm going to heaven no matter what just like you told me. or are you contradicting yourself?

>make game
>add cute christian girls
>you can romance them (NOTHING SEXUAL)
it's that easy

>>723369774
a christcuck gishgalloping you with verse is their version of throwing pocket sand

>>723369548
know god all you want, that doesn't change the repeatably demonstrable facts that miracles don't occur and that prayer does not function in the manner in which the bible describes. if it's not a matter of faith, then god is deistic at best. if it's a matter of faith, then you can believe anything. it's your god-given right, remember?

>>723369829
Isn’t there a monster girl game like that

>>723368995
This sort of thing has never been a mystery since the ancient days to now with any position of influence and authority, from Shaman to CEOs. Someone predatory sees how a pastor governs over a congregation of people but instead of noticing the good he encourages in their lives they just imagine the good they could get out of them instead.

It's no very Christian to say, but honestly it seems some people are just broken like that. Whether they can be fixed I won't comment on.

>>723369829
>it's that easy
To do what, make a flop? Sure I guess.

>>723369774
Salvation isn't about what you say, it's about what you're putting your trust in, what you believe. If you're putting your faith in your own deeds you're not believing in what Jesus Christ did for you, I have to indeed question if you were ever saved, yeah.

youtube.com/watch?v=EAtR40sue5M

Im putting this video for you, watch it. I'm not going to argue in circles since you seem so adamant about trusting in your own perfect righteous life to be deserving of heaven and refuse to look at what God thinks about that.

>>723368910
>I hate trannies
>therefore magic exists
How did you get from A to B?

>>723370004
>If you're putting your faith in your own deeds
i'm not. i put my faith that jesus will get me to heaven no matter what, so that i could sin as much as i want thanks to him and him only. if anything, i'll maximally sin precisely because i have faith that jesus was going to get me to heaven no matter what. if i didn't have faith in jesus, then i wouldn't sin so hard now would i?

>>723336420 (OP)
Salvation is celibacy. I'll spam threads about this. WIll you spam threads about harm of procreation with me?
Have you saved your soul, /v/ poster? Even if you made the mistake of reproduction, you still can repent and admit that you did bad and make threads about this.

>>723369642
its sort of like how you idiots pretend everyone who doesn't thump bibles is a demonic tranny or that we don't have very good reasons for leaving the church

>>723369970
I think it’s best to say that we humans certainly can’t fix them.

>>723370129
Saved to serve, not saved to sin. Now watch the video and shut up. You're disrespecting The Lord Jesus Christ.

>>723370259
>assuming I'm Christian
Always with the assumptions and attacks from the midwits. Seek therapy and stop being so angry.

>>723368929
Sounds like your consciousness was altered by damage to your brain. Which was the whole point.
Your brain just wasn't damaged enough to cause unconsciousness.

>>723370275
no no no no, you don't understand the meaning of "free gift". if you give me a baseball bat as a "free gift", you can't ever take it away from me even if i bash some people's heads in. sure, i'll go to jail, but i'll go to baseball bat heaven no matter what. same thing with jesus christ, once you're saved, you can't not be saved. if i don't serve, i don't lose my free gift of salvation. jesus can't take that gift away from me because he won't, exactly like you said :)

>>723370482
nobody respects you fool

>>723370526
I don't care if anyone respects me, stop being so angry and get therapy.

>>723369642
aren't atheists bashing islam nowadays though? i saw some vids showing how iranian zoomers desperately want to escape shari'ah law and stuff, also how palestinians are giga fucked because both israel and islam will fuck them up

>>723370275
Who am I being saved from again?

ITT: People who barely passed high school and their only hobby is computer games trying to skinwalk actual intellectualism

>>723370495
Materialism is an awfully reductive and not entirely logical way to view the world. I saw what I saw.

>>723370690
Ah yes, the organized homogenous faction known as "atheists"

>>723370723
Pretty fucking bleak state of affairs. I’m not sure if there’s a dumber board on 4chan than /v/.

>>723370778
It was fun, once
We talked about said computer games, once

>>723370720
the concept of original sin which was also invented by abrahamics

>>723370752
fair, should have specified 'some' atheists. but i guess there's always been anti-islam lefties and pro-islam lefties, as well as pro-islam righties and anti-islam righties. how much more there are of one kind over the other is what i meant to refer to

>>723370812
>invented

>>723370504
Why so passive aggressive? I simply choose to care about what God wants, not what men want. I wish you would choose the same instead of following the doctrines of demons. It's your own choice to either choose the word of God or the word of man as your authority.

>>723370720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntc

>>723370858
There's also a vast difference between being pro-islam and being anti-islamaphobia.
For example, I hate the teachings of islam and think the religion is just as stupid as every other religion.
But I don't think all muslims are bad, and I don't think we should be genociding them.
R-tards can't understand nuance so they don't see the difference.

>>723370795
I ‘member. I still do sometimes.

>>723370720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkLy9K7wRsM

>>723371121
>Bad People...PARTY IN HEAVEN! Unfair?
Yes.

>>723370858
There's no national atheist registry or central atheist authority or any way of telling other than 'vibe'
Personally I'm quite interested in the middle east settling down so muzshits stay over there and maybe fix their shit. Half the reason muslims suck so much right now is because the west has deliberately empowered their extremist nutter factions for ages at the behest of a certain pesky fake nation and then proceeded to bomb the shit out of them and taxi the refugees to places they absolutely do not fucking belong.
Fixing this is not possible until Christian Zionism is defeated.

>be atheist
>say i hate water
>>WOW ATHEISTS HATE WATER!!!!
i guess christcucks tie there entire identity to their religion they think atheists do too, so they think if a bunch of atheists say something they are saying it because they are atheists and not just people who are saying something and also happen to be atheists

also the people who say "Christianity bad islam good" are just "america bad" "west bad" people
they dont actually have any critical thoughts
they hate the system they grew up in and that system just so happens to be made and maintained by Christians
Judaism is off limits and western nations were actively at war with islam/islamist nations in very recent history so they feel guilt by association and have a desire to make amends by cucking out.
with no knowledge of who or what they are cucking out to.
which is worse than the surface level hypocrisy of leftist/progressive ideologies being literally incompatible
(same goes for the whole modern day communist thing, they arent actually communist they just need to be seen as anti-capitalist and communism has the best branding for this message)

>>723371191
israel is just a glorified military base. whether it's democrats or republicans, christian zionists or not, america wants to be in the middle east somehow. you could have the most left-leaning president and party in leadership, and they'll still bend their ass two ways from sunday for israel.

>>723371191
> Half the reason muslims suck so much right now is because the west has deliberately empowered their extremist nutter factions for ages at the behest of a certain pesky fake nation and then proceeded to bomb the shit out of them and taxi the refugees to places they absolutely do not fucking belong.
Fixing this is not possible until Christian Zionism is defeated.
Yes, it’s pretty shameful how Wahhabism has managed to become synonymous with Islam to so many people. And in doing so, the same people also somehow managed to make Zionism appear compatible with Christianity… pure evil. Nothing but lies.

>>723371161
Romans 3:23: “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”

You can't go to heaven because of who you are, but because who Jesus Christ is. If you are in Christ, then you are righteous because Jesus Christ is righteous.

Romans 4:5 "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness."

Romans 3:24-25: "Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;"

Romans 8:39

Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

>>723371338
shut the fuck up retard

>>723371010
>genociding
lol

>>723336420 (OP)
Cuckold simulator

>>723371354
calm down gish galoper, we already know your religion is just an excuse to do bad things and not feel as bad about it

>>723371010
All muslims are bad though
You're probably one of them to

>>723371397
lmao struck a nerve, sorry to be the one that makes you realize the american flag and israel's flag are the same thing

>>723371497
Okay boomer

>>723371447
It's the exact opposite. You don't want to feel bad about what you're doing so you tell yourself God doesn't exist. If you receive a gift from someone would you want to spit in their face? No, you'd want to be nice to them. Your logic doesn't make sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAtR40sue5M

>>723371581
if i was offered a gift by someone who just got done telling me that they'd torture me in the most excruciatingly painful of ways if i didn't accept their gift, then yeah i'd absolutely want to spit in their face

>>723370752
They do like to sweep under the rug that one time they tried running their own country and managed to speedrun the atrocities of the Crusades in the span of a decade.

>>723371659
That doesn't make sense at all. Why would you be angry at someone who wants to save you? If you were starving and I offered you food and said "you will starve to death if you don't eat", you would spit in my face?

>>723371659
Sounds like the kind of person who would simultaneously demand you believe in them but never bother to appear to you

>>723336420 (OP)
KEKOLD SIMULATOR: Life as a Beta Male Cuck

>>723371738
>Why would you be angry at someone who wants to save you?
i'm angry at someone who wants to save me FROM THEM. jesus, aka god, created or allowed hell to exist and persist. that means he's the one personally sending me to hell or heaven. that means jesus is basically a serial killer that knocks on your door and says "take this gift from me or i will murder you", except worse because at least the serial killer doesn't personally torture you for all of eternity

>>723371930
1. You offended God.
2. God is offering you salvation from His punishment that you deserve because you offended Him.

If you refuse then why do you think God is in the wrong? You were the one that chose to reject His love. Not the other way around.

>>723371961
>god: creates human beings capable of offending him
>god: knows that human beings WILL offend him (because he's all knowing)
>god: WAAAAAH WHY ARE THESE HUMANS OFFENDING ME?!!
manipulating people through beliefs like this is why less and less people take your sad excuse of a denomination seriously

>>723372108
So because God know we are going to do bad things should automatically give us a free pass to do those bad things? God gave us responsibility for our actions that we make with our free will. By rebelling against God we became His enemies, but despite that instead of immediately destroying us He instead chose to suffer and save us so we don't have to suffer.

You don't even have to do anything to receive His gift, yet you somehow try to make God seem like the one in the wrong in this situation.

I'm not going to comment anymore but watch these 2 videos, your soul is eternal and you shouldn't let this evil world trick you into believing God is evil. God is holy and there is no evil in Him, because of that He has to punish evil because He is not corrupt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l5ZEsXjNVI

>>723372108
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAtR40sue5M

>>723372367
>So because God know we are going to do bad things should automatically give us a free pass to do those bad things?
that's literally what you've been arguing for this entire thread. by your very own logic, a man could live an entire life of despicable sin, but repent and accept jesus' gift of salvation just before he dies, and then that man would go to heaven. similarly, if a kid repented and accepted jesus' gift of salvation, but then grew up to lead a life of despicable sin, he too would go to heaven. because according to your very own logic, you cannot lose the free gift of salvation once you got it. a christian could deny his faith and become an atheist, and still go to heaven because he repented and accepted jesus's gift of eternal life ONCE. that's how retarded your entire denomination is. even kids point out how flawed your moral system is. jesus would be ashamed of what you've been arguing for, and he'd especially be ashamed if he saw any one of the videos you've been spamming nonstop itt.

>>723361775
Soon. Even the non believers can see where this world is heading

>>723343346
I really need to pick this up sometime, the movie is a Halloween tradition for me.

>>723349816
2 ends with you meeting the true god and casting down the false one

There are none.

If someone made a good enough Christian game they could become a saint
This is like really low hanging fruit, come on guys get on this asap

>>723369234
There is something very grotesquely profound about the little wheel on that cross.

>>723361775
about 90 years ago

>>723336420 (OP)
Elden Ring, Sekiro

>>723336420 (OP)
Check your inbox. I sent you a list.

>>723373206
Trying to become a saint is probably the best way to not become one.

>>723361775
Nobody knows, but that’s no cause for concern. The guy already defeated death.

>>723373212
it's not as cool as the mudslime festivals where they slice their backs open with swords

>>723373502
And it’s a hell of a lot more profane, somehow.

>>723373552
maybe he just doesn't realize the optics of having a big cross on wheels? or it's part of the humiliation ritual of Christcattle?

>>723365178
>personal freedom for the gestapo to scoop you up and ignore all your paperwork so you can responsibly be jailed without due process

>>723361775
Why exactly do you want Jesus to come back? You think you are going to be one of the few that aren't deceived by the anti-christ? Instead of being paranoid or living like a doomer when the whole point of revelation is meant for our own good, why not go to a divine liturgy at an Orthodox Church which the apostles set up and do your best to live a Christian life?
For all you know, Jesus could come back tomorrow or in another thousand years, God loves us all, if you want to be with him then start being serious and go to the church he established.
Faith alone is the greatest lie and the whole ethos in the scripture where God commands us to love him and our neighbours which is a work, along with a structured church clearly in the book of Acts goes against the modern age of individualism and "just me and my bible".

>>723373212
Isn’t there? It’s such an amazing photo.
Wheels on a cross is something I would have personally found a bit too hamfisted if I were writing a satirical sendup of American Protestantism, but here it is in real life.

>>723373762
Christianity is just doomsday fetishists these days, my eyes nearly bugged out of my head when I heard the satanic dogshit that is actually being preached to murrican McChristians
It was the moment when I went from mere disappointment to total disgust

>>723373945
It’s a very freaky country to live in. Life sure is comfortable here if you don’t think too hard about literally anything at all, though! :^)

>>723365314
He literally made a whip to drive the Jews out of the temple

>video game thread exists
>one dedicated retard posts utter trash in it
>100% of the time he is butthurt for some pop politisci muh culture war reason
>full sharty meltdown, literal spam
>people stop replying because this guy is always posting worthless shit on cooldown and hiding his replies isnt enjoyable
>someone bothers to report it
>entire thread deleted rather than just getting rid of the retard's spam
Janitors and sharteens deserve each other.

>>723374005
>comfortable
for now

Stay alive. Save your soul. Keep your soul. Don't marry. Stay alone. Spam gems.

>>723374276
I love women

>>723373945
Anon, it's even worse than you think. Dispensational and evangelical "christians" actively want to support jews who hate Christ and WANT THEM to build the third temple to accelerate the coming of the anti-christ, it's actual insanity and honestly nihilistic.
Look at what one of the early church figure says about jews, granted it isn't about them ethnically but spiritually, but this is what the early church thought about jews that rejected Christ, a complete contrast from the protestant world. The Orthodox Church liturgy is from this person by the way.

>>723368995
Megachurches are Jewish tricks

>>723374314
That's precisely what I'm talking about, after hearing a relative listening to that faggot Hagee I actually started looking into all this crazy bullshit and it was like turning over a rock
What worries me most is their control of US foreign policy via CUFI and AIPAC along with the neocon thinktanks that think a nuclear exchange might be survivable and worth it

>>723343989
seconding this, but the Genesis/Mega Drive version
it's more colorful and just feels better

>>723336420 (OP)
there basically are none it's all gnostic horseshit

>>723373206
The kind of person that would become a saint nowadays is the type of person who would be exploited until they burnt out liked a used battery to keep the decadence running for a year longer.

>>723336420 (OP)
Dante's Inferno
Doom saga
Noah's Arc

>>723374645
America is run by Satanists your country is cooked. Hail the Chinese regime.

Kinda unrelated but why do people on 4chan like to pretend to be Christian and cheer on Christian happenings in the world? Isn’t that a massive conflict of interest?

>>723374732
they think they're going to heaven

>>723336420 (OP)
Killing floor 2. Great music as well. Got me into Demon Hunter and Fit For A King

>>723374732
>pretend to be christian
so much of western society directly stems from christianity you have a better chance of being incidentally christian than not, at least as a white westerner

>>723374732
Because being an actual Christian requires bearing your cross, it's far easier to be a pharisee and virtue signal.

>>723374730
Not going to disagree but it's an "entire world" problem not just a USA problem.
I'm encouraged that there are people still trying to seek truth here at least. Still, certain parties grow ever more agitated the more that is exposed.

>>723374730
>implying china isn’t also run by them

>>723374732
The real question is why do so many people larp as Christians and then do things that Jesus himself said not to do?
Who are they pretending to fool?

>>723374732
Modern day Pascal's Wager. Even if God and Jesus end up not being real, the alternative is so repugnant and obviously evil that it's still a better option to live as old virtuous people did.
>erm but you don't do that
Old traditions may not translate and life is a struggle besides, it's a dumb American thing to believe that failure or sinning means you're barred from salvation for eternity.

>>723374732
tradlarpers, nobody takes them seriously since they act like complete assholes and lol 4chan moralizing. On my more schizo days I wonder if they might be subversives sent to d&c and demoralize

>>723374061
I recognize this piece of shit you describe >>723374732 posts around the same time every day because he's a NEET. He was in this thread barely an hour ago doing the same derailing bullshit: https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/723368132/

>>723374732
>massive conflict of interest?
What? Are you implying that Jesus would somehow object to me going on /pol/ and ranting about how we need to kill all niggers and such?

>>723374276
Why shouldn’t I marry? Hello? I thought marriage was like, THE thing to do for Christians

>>723375195
That’s literally not me lmao you actual schizo

>>723367691
Jesus supports Israel, as Jerusalem belongs to the Jewish people as is foretold by Biblical prophecy. Fake leftist LGBT Christians hate this.

>>723375110
>the alternative
Like what?

>>723374150
Things are actually better than they were 2 years ago.

>>723375413
>>the alternative
>Like what?

>>723375110
If Christians lived like Christians, the world would actually be a better place.

>>723375621
>if the world was perfect it'd be perfect
ok

>>723375723
No one asked for perfect retard.

>>723375462
That's what I thought a few months before COVID lockdowns

Why are there still pr*testants in A.D. 2025?

>>723375413
>>723371672

>>723375621
If communists lived like communists, the world would actually be a better place.

>>723375347
Shalom

>>723374732
its contrarianism
plain and simple
woke and atheist is seen as the "base" position to take in western society and as contrarians they HAVE TO take the opposite stance
so they go the "trad pill" path and larp as Christians and *gag* "pagans"
real christians dont make threads saying "Recommend me some christian-themed games", thats only a thing contrarian larpers do.

>>723336710
>doing dailies and rolling for good pulls
Gacha is christian? No wonder it's /v/'s favorite genre.

>>723375110
>repugnant
fuck off larper
you cunts actually glow.

>>723375765
lockdowns were comfy(4me)

>>723360907
What's the left?

>>723376376
Lots of things are comfy when you willfully think and behave like a toddler, unfortunately there are occurrences that are all gradually leading to the eventual collapse of the NEET lifestyle

>>723376203
I see. So in the future, if traditionalism and religiousness becomes the default position in society again, would they align themselves with the atheists again?

>>723376556
Maybe in America. Europe has fantastic NEETbux programs.

>>723374150
Whatever the hell is going to happen here in the 30s, Americans will be better off for it by the time it’s done with.
I’m getting the fuck out of here next year though hahahaha

>>723336420 (OP)
Black Book

>>723376615
oh my God

>>723336761
Something tells me you're not going to be happy with these answers until you get recommended a veggie tales point and click adventure because everyone can tell when clicking on the OP that this thread was going to be retarded

>>723376632
saying his name in vain in THIS thread anon?
come on now.

>>723376632
lmao I’m not the Anon you were talking to. I didn’t see you were talking about america >>723376615 (me)

>>723376564
>would they align themselves with the atheists again?
yes
but its not aligning
they are ideological chameleons
they dont actually believe anything they say.
but they are compelled to say it.