Thread 723382715

Can we all finally give it the respect it deserves? This is the GOAT action game. This has been true since its release. Just because it fiiltered you or you don't have an Xbox to play it doesn't make this not true.

All praise the GOAT.

>>723382715 (OP)
The Dark Souls of ninja

>>723382715 (OP)
You can never be better than DMC3
Sorry

>>723382715 (OP)
It is great but the vast majority of boss fights suck ass.

>>723383850
People are just brainwashed by the concept of what a boss should look like in such games. Most of the bosses are totally fine and fun to fight. You aren't supposed to approach them the way you do the rest of the fiends and enemies in the game. You also should not feel bad relying on items and health elixers regardless of difficulty and familiarity with the game. Its meant to be played this way.

>>723382715 (OP)
If only goy tecmo port a proper port of ninja gaiden and doa trilogy

>>723382715 (OP)
How's the Xbox emulator for this game? Playable?

>>723384143
My man I finished Master Ninja, I've played the game more than enough. Inconsistent blocking coupled with a shit camera does not make for a good boss fight. Granted not all boss arenas suffer from the camera.

>>723384553
Which bosses are you saying are especially bad then?

>>723384667
Alma in the chapel, Super Alma in the final boss rush although the fucking whip whore after her is a million times worse with her blocking. And shit like the double tanks is just dull shit.

I know it is a product of its time when there were no consideration for patterns, but having the dragon boss in the cave just spam his grab move 10 times in a row while you just jump around and wait for him to do the one move that lets you attack him isn't good design either.

>>723382715 (OP)
Still the game I'd put as my #1 of all time.
And I'm still miffed that the only PC version is Sugma.

>>723382715 (OP)
The most overrated action game of all time

>>723385026
The alma fight in the monestary was great though. The other form can fuck off though that could have been a better fight. I also don't mind the tank fight although I agree it could have been better done since you don't really get anything but the box of arrows for cover and they are super accurate with their shots.

I just don't think the boss fights are nearly as bad as people say. You have some saying basically all the fights are terrible and that is just not true. I do agree the game shines best though when facing the enemies themselves rather than the bosses. GOW is probably the only series in the genre to do boss fights better than regular enemies.

>>723382715 (OP)
very good game with minor flaws like flying swallow feeling random

>>723385383
>The alma fight in the monestary was great though
It sucks ass on Master Ninja imo, even awakened alma on master ninja is better.

>>723385383
It isn't all bad that's for sure. But in my opinion the boss fights is the game sole weak point. Doesn't mean I don't think it is the pinnacle of its genre.

>>723385535
awakened alma is the same shit as alma 1 except that not only do you have to deal with low FS hit rates but also a painfully hard to dodge fireball pattern.

>>723382715 (OP)
Bosses suck but the entire series suffers from this. No, locking the boss in an ez loop because their behaviour is easy to exploit is not fun.

>>723386503
Awakaned Alma's camera is a lot better and the ranged attacks are much easier to dodge because there are no pillars that can fuck you up, and the camera of course.

>>723386582
Razor's Edge has some good bosses, Regent of the Mask and Evil Ryu is fun.
I like Doku a lot in Black as well, he's kino. The soundtrack is super good.

>>723382715 (OP)
>black in the name
NO

>>723386717
Yes you're right, when the devs lean into you fighting multiple bosses that are human sized, it's fun. Doppleganger fights are fun. Regent is fun. But when devs throw a bone dragon, tank or a worm that just do the same attack over and over while you loop them it gets very boring.

>>723386765
Unironically the Bone Dragon fight in 1 is actually decent.
It sucks ass in 2 though.

help, im getting raped in the library room with all the cats and red ninjas. what the fuck do you even do here.

>>723387093
You can try to kite them up to the middle floor and go all the way to the dead end on the narrow walkway, giving you time to charge a UT.

>>723386668
what are you on about? alma 1 pillar throws are easily dodge with delay rolljumps.
if you're ever close to the sides, do vertical wallruns instead of rolljumps, that way you avoid bumping into the pillar obstacles.
It's awakened alma where things get fucked up because the fireballs require moving across a very fucking precise angle to dodge.

>>723386717
>Evil Ryu
He's a fine boss but it feels insulting considering that unlike og doppelganger he doesn't follow player rules at all and is instead a bland block&punish fight.

>>723387093
get the flails, upgrade them to lvl2, then go back and pray to god you can maintain a UT chain.

>>723382715 (OP)
Almost perfect game but I hate almost every boss fight which is kind of understandable because this was a time when people didn't really have those figured out. But the bosses continued to be shit in the rest of the series lol
I wouldn't even care if the entire game was just group fights. Fighting ninjers is fun as fuck

>>723382715 (OP)
How many thread do you fragile incels need? Waaaah is that a bluesky link I can't be seen posting there save me grummz!

NGB is the GOAT, this isn't new

Basic enemies ability to "dodge" your attacks when they feel like it is a terrible mechanic, which is why it's so common to see izuna drop spam or UT spam. Their "dodging" is just rng selective input reading and is in no way predictable. I've realized however that most NGB purists aren't really intelligent enough to come to terms with this as a fact and understand how it degrades the experience, and will instead resort to meme phrases.

>>723386765
The bone dragon was a fun simple fight come on. The camera isn't bad at all in this fight either so you can't claim that.

>>723387632
God of War incels would disagree

>>723387831
The camera never bothered me, I just don't like big spectacle fights that don't really utilise the excellent combat system ng built.

>>723387813
Newsflash: Input reading is a thing in all 3D games. In fact its a thing in fighting games to. Mortal Kombat was notorious for this.

>>723387813
that's a 3RE issue.
In NGB enemies are always punishable when they're attacking. There's a few strings that drop but I'm pretty sure it's due to jank framedata rather than actual hitstun cancel.
The one exception that is 100% intended is doppelgangers evading XY launchers. You can only connect raw launchers on them.

>>723388229
Basic fiends are easy to kill, but one of the easiest examples of it. They can selectively phase through your attacks on a whim. I replayed the game earlier this year, I'm well aware of it happening. Before I started replaying the game, I was a lot more into defending it too, due to nostalgia.

>>723388349
there's some super armor fuckery when they're in nuetral state but when they're actually attacking, they're fully vulnerable.

>>723382715 (OP)
I played it for the first time this year on xemu and tbdesu it mogs modern action games. It's mind-blowing to me that Itagaki and TN made this 20 years ago.

>>723388229
You just need to bloody enemies in 3re and break guards with heavy attacks.

>>723382715 (OP)
if you like NGB, you'll probably also like Genma Onimusha

>>723388893
breaking guards is not enough, motherfuckers can reguard after like one hit. the glowing dagger faggots are especially obnoxious with that.
god it's such a shame that 3RE has a pretty good combat system but mostly trash enemies.

>>723389258
Bloody them

>>723389258
and use hold strings

>>723389258
I've seen a common complaint about 3RE's combat being the lack of essence which could have made the combat a lot better. Also you can't heal. Is that true? It also came at a time when devs were wanting to make story heavy games with faggy feminine feels. It was a pretty awful time for gaming actually.

>>723389375
The removal of essence was a good decision cuz UTs should never be chainable.
For some dumb reason however they still kept manually charged UTs and they became more powerful than ever so UTs are still fucking broken in 3.
>you can't heal
you don't have regular items but you have in combat healing via SoB (a mechanic even worse than 2's delimb) and Ninpo.
Besides that you can heal with HP upgrades. It's a weird choice for sure cuz NG never expected you to avoid all damage.

>>723389294
Indian fuck off from this thread

>>723384143
Doku is a genuinely great fight as is doppelganger. Everyone aside from him is painfull average. They arent awful but not memorable either. Its not like NG2 where they are suck ass tho so who cares they have no health even on MN anyways

>>723382715 (OP)
I tried Sigma earlier this year. I got filtered by the projectile spam and generally by how its so unlike any other action game out there.

In light of Itagaki's passing and NG4's impending release, I'll give it another shot once I clear what's on my plate now.

>>723389375
>Also you can't heal. Is that true?
It's not, but healing is different in 3RE. You can't really fall back on healing items as a crutch and just hoard essence if you are done with upgrades and stock up to max between every shop.
Your ninpo is a meter now instead of orbs, and each ninpo has their own meter with their own size, so they vary on how long they take to fill up.
With a full meter you can unleash the ninpo and hitting enemies with ninpo heals you. You can also do the Steel on Bone technique to heal, but steel on bone does not heal you as much as ninpo, however doing steel on bone does contribute to filling your ninpo meter a lot.
The ninpo meter can also be used to do the Cicada Surge technique which only takes a small amount of the meter to do. This is a technique that teleports Ryu behind the enemy when you time it to their attack like a counter. It can cancel you out of various animations.

Why does everyone hate sigma?
What makes it worse than black?
Should I emulate black instead of playing sigma pc port?

>>723391138
forced sections with the coomer girl, game is easier and overall casualization of the game
black is perfectly playable on xemu

>>723391138
Play whatever you want. Sigma cuts out some of the adventure elements of black in favour of more combat encounters. Also some accessibility stuff that arguably makes things easier like being able to heal mid grab. I prefer the encounters of sigma for replays but I find the adventure stuff of black tedious. Something I hate about sigma is the ugly bloom but you can mod it out.

>>723391138
>Why does everyone hate sigma?
They don't, you are thinking about Sigma 2

>>723391282
>heal mid grab
You can do this with lots of grabs in black too

>>723391138
Sigma remixes enemies around and adds things to various degrees of success along with sections where you play as Rachel who handles rather poorly to most. It isn't too bad in 1 but most consider it a downgrade in 2. 1 is playable on emulator but still worth playing. 2 is where things get bad, no idea how 360 emulation is but if you can find an xbone for cheep or already have one then it's worth getting for being able to play DOA1-4 and NGB and NG2.

>>723382715 (OP)
kind of a cold take. everyone who actually plays action games recognise ngb and ng2 as s tier

>>723391138
On the ps3 the game is objectively worse in many ways which hurt the reputation. Poor framerate, loading times. It also makes weird cuts and decisions.

>>723391607
2 is A-tier, it has too many flaws imo. The majority of the chapters either suck or are just average. The quality is not very consistent across that game.

>>723382715 (OP)
No, you cocksuckers ruin every action hack & slash thread with your webm spam you like the insecure faggots that you are.

>>723391394
>DOA1-4
Is this even worth it with no online?

>>723383808
Ummm but you can.

>>723385026
Product of skill issue I'm afraid. You're shit.

>>723382715 (OP)
>BLACK
oh great another woke game

>>723386582
>locking the boss in an ez loop because their behaviour is easy to exploit is not fun.
Thats every boss fight tf? Even Vergil.

>>723391394
>no idea how 360 emulation is
with the low second hand prices and the new bad avatar exploit picking up an actual 360 for the exclusives is a no brainer

I gave up at Alma, it's too hard

>>723393181
Watch a video or something fuvk. Don't be a ninja dog.