Thread 723404690

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You don't REALLY enjoy replaying a game 10 times to get the actual ending do you?

I actually agree, it's bullshit. I'm done with a game when the story is done, I'm not replaying it again because it's not "da tru ending" and to get it I have to do everything including the side stuff I didn't care for just for closure. I'm going to youtube for that.

Wtf, OP has a based youtube taste?

>>723404690 (OP)
I could point and laugh at you for fucking up the OP but i feel bad so here's the vid
https://youtu.be/BOzJVZ3GhEg

>>723404840
Oh fuck. oh well.

>>723404840
Does it show my actual subscriptions or just your subscriptions?

>>723404690 (OP)
Then don't. Nobody's forcing you to.

>>723404690 (OP)
Shf is fucking horseshit for this exact reason.
I don't give a fuck if Ryukishi thought it would be cool, but making the entire first playthrough essentially pointless is a fucking ass decision.
The changes in each loop of the game do not warrent the overall requirement of going through it all again. Alan Wake 2 also pulled this bullshit. Its pure shit.

>>723405063
>You didn't like the crappy ending and wanted an actual ending?
>Fuck you nerd, play the game again and 100% all of it, or go watch it on youtube like a total dork

>>723405023
Yes.

>>723405023
I know about the ASMR and breastfeeding videos anon, you should be ashamed.

>>723404690 (OP)
>https://www.youtube.com/feed/subscriptions

they're not sending their best

>>723404690 (OP)
That is like complaining about grinding in Monster Hunter even though the game ends right before the grindfest starts.
>play the game once
>game says "you beat it, congrats!"
>don't want to play it anymore, uninstall it
>watch other endings on youtube
It's that simple. Optional content IS optional.

>>723405391
My ancestors are smiling on me...
>>723405369
Honestly, it was a lapse of thought. You know when you *sure* you copied the right link and it turned out it was hardcore porn?

I hate it when that happens. But yeah I try for good taste in the shithole that is youtube.

>>723404690 (OP)
>>723404840
>Whaaaaaaaa why do devs put time and effort on rewarding you for beating extra content they put time and effort into? I just wanna finish game and move to next one
Genuinely, one of worst yahtzee videos I have seen in a long while

The only time where replaying the entire game for a true ending attempt makes sense is if the game is already short enough and has incentives for you to do things over differently anyway.
Cave Story has the pull of the weapon trade ins that let you shake up your playstyle, as well as the discovery that you COULD save Booster and Curly if only you figured out how, and the end of the game on the normal end essentially telling you where to start.

>>723404690 (OP)
nice subscriptions you got there anon HAHAHAHA

>>723406225
>>723406458
>make game
>cut off 40% of content
>place closure after mundane bullshit
>mark it as 'optional'
It's that simple. Optional content IS optional.

So it does exactly what the first silent hill did? Why be mad about that?

>>723404690 (OP)
Locking endings off, based off the amount of times you've beat a game is kind of fucked for a silent hill game.

>>723406620
That really is the way to make a game. There's a flood of people who just want to be done with a game after ~3 hours, if your game lasts more than that just put a bullshit ending at this point so those people feel satisfied with some closure.

>>723404690 (OP)
I really like the NuGod of War's take on side quests: they're usually random dungeons, lore, some stranger's request or a side characters' personal quest. Why they're good is that each one usually starts a conversation topic that either tells us more about a character or ties into the major themes without changing the main quest.

Example: in God of War 2018, you can do a quest for a ghost pirate who stole your treasure before he died. The quest is basically to go steal his leftover treasure. Doing so, you find out the ghost stabbed was stabbed to death by his son, son became captain, then got betrayed and killed by the crew. It ties into the whole theme of familicide that the whole series is about. It makes the main story deeper without adding or changing any events.

>>723404690 (OP)

I agree. I have way too many games to play to keep on playing the same thing over and over again -- even classics I love don't get an immediate second round. How many times did Nier expect me to complete it?

>>723406620
You are not supposed to 100% every game you play. Leave the autistic shit to actual autists.
If shit gets boring, uninstall the game after you are done with it. If you are still curious about other endings, watch it on youtube.

>>723406685
Apparantly the first run of the game leads to a crappy ending that's not satisfying, whereupon the game basically goes "Sorry, you want the "real" ending? replay the whole game like 5 times to get something worth an ending to the plot".

Googling now, it's like 12 hours to beat the game ONCE.

Now imagine doing that for all the other 5 endings. Who wants to do that when there's other vidya to play/shit to do? Not me that's for certain.

Me I think optional should just be for extra XP, interesting audio logs, or just the satisfaction of doing it. Or just not have it at all and let the game be basically a straight book. You open it, you read through it, you close it, that's it.

>>723404690 (OP)
>https://www.youtube.com/feed/subscriptions
wow dude nice link

No one with a clear mind can say that replaying Nier Automata three times for the real ending was fun when the gameplay or areas barely changed between 2B and 9S

you lazy niggers it takes like 2 hours at most to finish the game again if you skip the cutscenes you've seen and only watch the new ones

>>723407520
I want to do that actually.

>>723404690 (OP)
This is exactly how I felt about AW2. I just watched that shit on YouTube I was NOT about to immidiatly replay it again.

>>723406746
To add on your post anon, don't forget, the main consuming audience are normies that have 9-5s and/or families to take care of. They're not hobbyist that can be fine with dropping HALF a day to play vidya just to see "everything".

Just plain jane reality.

>>723406458
He’s looking at it from a journo/critic’s perspective. They want to finish games quickly and move on to the next one.

Journos tend to have a bias for narrative focused games for this reason, since you can experience most of what narrative games have to offer in one playthrough.

>>723408006
I work 9-5, and if I play a game, I just chip away at it for a few hours each night. Same as when I was a kid in school.

I don’t see the excuse other than people just wanting to feel like they experienced the “hot new thing” in a day or two.

>>723407520
so you're complaining about a game you know fuck all about to the point you had to google shit?
yes the first run takes 12 hours because you're playing the game for the first time, the subsequent runs are like 1/4 of that length because you know what the fuck you're doing and you can skip cutscenes you've already seen, the game LITERALLY tells you when it's a new cutscene and when it isn't
not only that but you can straight up skip parts like the middle school because you already know the locker combination for the gate key and just return to Shu and Rinko in seconds
I swear I wish you faggots would at least know what the fuck you're talking about

>>723407508
>you're not supposed to eat 100% of every meal you pay for

>>723408016
Journos also tend to be subhuman.

>>723408271
Imagine being so fat you see video games and think of food.

Optional content is so fucking gay especially in a non-open world game. A game should just be good from beginning to end in a linear fashion and not require you to beat the game 100 times

>>723408271
>i need to use the bones too, they'll make a good soup
>you need to finish your plate even if you don't enjoy it
Enjoy a game until you stop enjoying the game, then move on. The optional bonus content is a bonus for people who like the game
There should be no obligation for anything

>>723408339
>you're not supposed to watch 100% of the movie you paid for

>>723408456
Whats the optional content of a movie retardbro

>>723408557
Everything after the ads

Even in games I really love I agree with you. Multiple endings may be "a defining feature of Silent Hill" but it is also retarded.

>>723408271
>food analogy
If you really need me to explain this to you in fatfuck terms, "don't try to eat shit like a fatfuck if you can't actually eat shit like a fatfuck".

>>723404690 (OP)
Idk I liked the NG+ system of ac6. Age of decadence also massively profits from repeat playthroughs and is practically designed around it considering a single playthrough is relatively short rpg-wise.

>>723404840
>watched the ending of ninesols because he couldn't beat the final boss
Not gonna watch this retard ramble incoherently for 9 minutes. Kill yourself for linking this shit.

>>723408271
That's literally what aristocracy did nigger.

>>723408456
>you need to watch every movie at least six times (the original, the director's cut, the director's commentary subtitles, all of those again with your tulpa girlfriend), listen to the official soundtrack every day and watch all pre-release interviews and trailers or else you won't get the full experience
It's sad how some retards actually believe in stupid shit like this.

>>723408386
Optional content usually just means bonus challenges/quests/content that aren’t required to understand the game’s story and are just there for really dedicated players to get more mileage out the game. It’s been a thing in games forever.

Play a cinematic movie game if you want a game that usually has no side content whatsoever.

>>723408456
I mean, almost no one watches the end credits of a movie to completion, so they technically don’t see 100% of the movie. Many a post-credit scene has been missed this way.

>all that foot fetish asmr nonsense in OP's subscription feed

HOO BOY

>>723408667
What's so bad about food analogies?

>>723404690 (OP)
Why the FUCK hasn't a single other game stolen SH2'S concept of "how you play the game in gameplay segments directly impacts what ending you get"

>>723409106
Nothing, it's just another part of the libtard programming.

Yeah optional content is just midwit memes. Hur dur I beat le gaem haha no other ppl can't see the content nooo they must be real gamerz like mee!! No. Just let people have it. If you want to challenge yourself play on harder difficulty, the reward is on beating this difficulty and that's it. But oh right, that's not what you wanted, you wanted some exclusive thing to feel special boy.

>>723409149
Dishonored does this. How you play the game on a moment to moment basis has arguably more impact on the game’s ending than any individual choice in isolation.

The first Infamous has its ending be completely tied to your Karna too.

>>723409106
If you look at video games and see food, you need to contact a doctor immediately.

>>723409259
>can't see the content
40 years later and it's still sad to see that Namco was unfortunately right for the wrong reasons.

>>723404690 (OP)
Lmao what a fucking idiot

C:\Users\Kevin\Pictures\frogs\pepelaughingatyou.jpg

>>723408240
Give me credit, I gave more thought to checking what I posted instead of just saying random shit. No Silent Hill F isn't my deal, but the guy asked a question, I answered it. Simple as. I'm not going to play a game I have no personal interest in, just so I can be "uber validated".


Don't need to be a chef and all that.

>>723408847
Ok
>kills self

>>723409039
Let's see (your) subscription feed nerd!

>>723410409
I don't have a YT account but if I did it would be foot fetish asmr.
HOO BOY

>>723404690 (OP)
That's r07s main gimmick aint it? Time loops and multiple playthrough.

>>723404840
>gameplay loop

>>723405164
Ryukishi is used to doing it because in visual novels, that premise works because you can skip all the text you've read before without any effort by the player. In an actual video game it doesn't work if the game itself isn't fun to play and nothing changes other than the dialogue. Something like Hades gets a pass because your runs are so varied but even in Nier, having to replay through the sections you've already done to see more content is annoying. Nier Automata at least changes the gameplay but the OG Nier didn't.

>>723406620
>Gameplay is mundane
Can we get normies out of videogames already for fuck sake