Thread 723408581

god i hope not

No he won't. There's an entire corporate culture of emphasizing that only old people like turn based games.

>>723408709
They're right but also their current games aren't selling so why does it matter. I'd buy a new turn based FF I'd even settle for x2s ATB because I enjoyed it personally.

take rebirths combat system and mix it with the classic jobs system + 4 party members at minimum

that's what i want for ff17

>>723408672
It's gonna happen. JRPGs are going to be copying Expedition 33 HARD for the near future.

Japan is ~5 years behind trends. The next FF will be a battle royale. 17 will be the one that goes back to turn based (with heavy persona aesthetics)

He'll sooner be demoted than allowed to direct another major title.

There have been literally 0 (zero) successful turn-based roleplaying games in recent years.

>>723408581 (OP)
Good

>>723408798
>They're right
Tell that to every big budget turn based game of the last several years selling gangbusters, especially with kids

>>723409002
Define "success".

>>723408581 (OP)
I like the sound of an arpg ff on paper but the only square enix action games ive enjoyed are kh. I really didnt like how ff7r played

>>723408581 (OP)
yoshi piss.....

>no we want XVI to appeal to the lesser global market
>proceeds to get BTFO by every turn based JRPG released and even a low effort western derivative
Just fire him

>>723409107
That doesn't count because it is not a roleplaying game.

>>723409107
NTA but pokemon doesn't count as a "turn based game" 90% of pokefags unironically say shit like "I hate turn based games but I love pokemon" it's an outlier not the norm.

>>723408798
Square has been one of the most arrogant game companies in history, why would they change?

yoshiP is deathly afraid of making gameplay complicated or difficult because ff14 has a no gamer left behind mentality thus ff16 also had to have it.

ff16 needed magnitudes more combat depth both in player moveset and in enemy aggression

>>723409305
>>723409319
Ok.

>>723409293
FF being action was an initiative from the execs about 20 years ago.
No idea why they refuse to try backing off for one game.

>>723409002
BG3, E33? Pretty sure those 2 were successful

Square continues to chase trends late

>>723408581 (OP)
I’m officially retiring from FF after VII-3.

IX is the last one that I truly loved, and it’s just been nonstop disappointment ever since.

X and XIII had an annoying cast, XI and XIV are MMOs that should have never gotten mainline numbering, XII and XVI are boring as fuck, and XV has an annoying cast AND is also boring as fuck.

>>723409480
That doesn't count because all of those purchases were refunded after it was discovered that DQ games haven't changed since DQ7

>>723408896
Isn't E33 just Paper Mario with Persona 5's UI?

>>723409450
XVI needed to have four niggas in the party and Japanese story telling and not a generic slopfest appealing to global markets. For how “dork” and “matoor” it was it still managed to be incredibly juvenile because of the story presentation

>>723410774
With a fairly by the numbers story. Yes. The people who gobble it up have never played more than one RPG much less a JRPG.

>>723409002
Were you living under a rock or something

>>723408581 (OP)
>turn based
Nah, it will always stay cringe

>>723408581 (OP)
XVII needs a Jobs autism system like V and more strategy like Tactics or XII.
Also we need a release for XVI with playable Jill and Cid.

The gameplay honestly was not even the main issue. I could forgive it, if a lot of other problems with the game were not there.

>rowslop
nah I'm good

>>723413876
there is no way current square can nail a job-system like that

>>723413876
>>723414903
SoP exists

>yoshitpiss
>ever admitting that turn based is superior

>>723415531
Wild how I NEED TO KILL CHAOS ended up being the best FF game released in decades

Name a single turn based game made in the past 5 years that sold more than one copy. You can't. Face it, VIIR style action combat is the future.

>>723415531
is it even fair to count this one if it was made by Team Ninja?
it's a really fucking good game though

>>723415696
>>723415967
Afraid not.

>>723410774
You're not supposed to point that out

>>723410774
stop noticing
it was made by 30 devs

>>723412000
nice digits but this whole post is nonsense

stop noticing that rebirth was made my 500000 indians

>>723416404
don't care. Everyone who has a soul has a favorite thing that most people don't enjoy. If you only like all the popular things then bad news, there's no afterlife for you, because you were never actually alive. Not that there's anything wrong with enjoying the popular things, but if that's ALL you like, then yeah you're a fag.

Another Barry thread… it never ends

>>723410159
meanwhile in reality turn troon games like metaphor keep flopping. Rebirth mogs the living fuck out of it

>>723418037
Rebirth didn't mog the fuck out of anything.
It couldn't even mog FFXVI.
It barely sold 2M.

Squeenix should just let Sakaguchi and Uematsu make one last real Final Fantasy mainline game. cause this hack and his team can only make ff14 again and again and again.

>>723418367
Nothing Sakaguchi made since leaving Square was particularly great
Goat's washed. Games are collaborative efforts, it's rarely just 1guy

>>723418804
Everything Sakaguchi has made since leaving Square is great.

>>723408709
He probably won't, but not for that reason. He'd say "we already worked on the FFT remake so we made a turn based ff, now let's make a musou FF"

I'd buy it

>>723418367
Sakaguchi wouldn't do it even if he could, he's buckbroken and said he will never make anything more than mobile scale games nos.

>>723418925
Same with Kojima.

>>723413876
My expectation is they’re gonna do a FF Tactics inspired by Baldur’s Gate. So make your character/build with others and do the story and quests and battles and stuff (or solo).

>>723419716
that would be cool

>>723408581 (OP)
He's going make the next game turn based but with tons of stupid shit so that it fails and blame gamers for not knowing what they want.