Thread 723411983

What's next for American McGee's Alice?

>what's next for OP?
suicide or rot pocket infection

>>723412190
Fuck you too man

>>723411983 (OP)
Being shelved forever apparently

>>723411983 (OP)
Ironically theres a higher chance sand niggers just might greenlight new Alice game compared to old EA sports game factory. Yeah she doesn't cover her hair but otherwise her outfits are more formal than most video game costumes. So for an oil sultan she's only 1/6 haram.

another ambitious project that never gets finished
a damn shame

>>723411983 (OP)
>tfw beat the first game recently and thought it was good so bought madness returns
>got to the water level (it looked so cool) and then realized that none of the bosses were loading and the steam version is broken

>>723413295
>buying 20+ year old games on steam
You have no one but yourself to blame.

>>723411983 (OP)
/ss/

Animated adaptation made by ex-Soviet animators with digital ink-and-paint and CGI paper puppets.

Were you posting on the waifu thread anon?

>>723413295
I also have the steam version and I could finish the water level. Have you tried reinstalling it?

>>723413094
I was thinking about that too. Maybe if American had waited a few more years he would have had a higher chance of getting his project greenlit.
Dunno if he'll ever be willing to go back to it now though, I think he's pretty much given up.

The first game is so much better in terms of gameplay. As much as I find Madness Returns Alice to be a bangable hottie (especially compared to the neckless, perpetually shrugging original), the original American McGee's Alice has the Jabberwock Eye Staff and that weapon is just the coolest weapon to ever exist in a video game.

>>723413512
>>723413724
I thought that was a joke about there being no bosses in Madness Returns

>>723413707
I posted her there too, yeah.

>>723411983 (OP)
Play new Alice games.
https://avdossow.itch.io/alice-slaughters-wonderland-demo-version

>>723414057
Buy an ad.

>>723413635
>Commie
Ew

>>723414030
Oh! I was the one who replied to you there before it got taken down. A real shame honestly, but I'm glad to see you here.

>>723414319
You do know the Soviet Alice was designed the way she was to shit on the commissars, right? The braindead commies wanted, essentially, a Disney Alice expy but the artists instead gave us this. It's a good thing the Soviet Union dissolved about a decade later or they would have been sent to the gulags for that one.

>>723414443
Thanks, I'm glad we can still get an American McGee's Alice thread going every now and then.

>we'll never get Asylum
It hurts.

>>723414715
I concur. I like the game and the cartoon but I found the book to be pretty meh. Interesting to see how such a mediocre book can inspire such amazing adaptations (when given to the right people, of course).

>>723411983 (OP)
I'm so mad that Alice as a franchise is dead in the water because of EA. I'm trying to make my own rip off of her as an OC to write fan fic and stories of.

>>723414876
ALICE NO DON'T DRINK THAT

>>723414876
>>723415210
all Alice

>>723414715
I just need to get around to actuallt playing them, I love the way they made Alice look. I love blondies but the more deathly pale, gothic look beats it out.

>>723414876
Habormania, was it? I know the demo just came out and I've been thinking of trying it.

Redo Asylum

>>723415483
>Habormania
Yup. They just reached the stretch goal for cutscenes btw.

>>723414876
>>723415708
Isn't this AI?

>>723414931
I should read an annotated copy if I can get my hands on it, I feel like back when I read it most of the references from that time were lost on me. Didn't help that I was also like 10 years old.

>>723415483
>I just need to get around to actuallt playing them
I really recommend them, they're no masterpieces but they're still great games. And Alice is amazing in both games, but especially in the second one, genuinely one of the prettiest looking games I've played and she has a lot of outfits to choose from.

If you can, get your hands on a pirated copy of Madness Return, which comes with the first game, and then install VorpalFix https://github.com/Wemino/VorpalFix

Habromania also looks very good though the demo is incredibly short.

>>723415885
Yes. At least, the animations are. I don't know about the original image.

>>723415708
I thought they were gonna kiss there for a second...

Do Americans really name their children American?

>>723411983 (OP)
New RWBY or Fate/Night games

>>723416014
His mother was a stoner hippie who married a transvestite.

>>723416010
I was gonna try that but reached the proompt limit. Here's the base image if you want to try.

>>723416052
sounds more normal than most parents nowadays

>>723415708
Oh sweet! Definitely something I'll be keeping my eye on then. Hopefully this time I can get in on it early before it gets really big and then normies get ahold of it.

>>723415943
Alice is honestly the main draw for me, that and the dark fairy tale vibe it has.

Oh, thanks anon, I was considering just getting them on Steam but another anon had some problems with the second one so I'll look around to see if I can find a copy of Madness Returns.

>>723416130
His sisters missing

>>723416014
Why he supported Wii despite making no game on the platform? Imagine definitive Wii U edition of Madness Returns?

>>723411983 (OP)
Nothing. EA doesn't care about the franchise because it doesn't sell billions and game "journalists" have unpersoned McGee for having conservative views.

>>723416736
We lost a legend dev
>>723378674

>>723416457
I wouldn't feel bad about not giving EA money for this after how they treated McGee. Unless you can find it for a couple bucks, there's guides on steam for enabling DLC costumes and a couple other things that you would have by default by just getting the pirated game.

>>723416736
McGee expressed conservative views? Never heard about that but I guess it could partially explain why we haven't gotten anything from him in years.

>>723416889
Pirating sounds like the better option then. I'm glad EA's undergoing a change in management but considering who's doing it we'll have to see how well it pans out. I just hope the series isn't brought back just to strangle out a couple of nostalgia bucks with some cheap imitation of the earlier games.

>>723416592
At this point I think about his missing sister every time I see this game

>>723416014
for the same reason Christian is a name

Alice Muttness Returns

>>723416865
Nobody gives a fuck.

>>723417517
>I just hope the series isn't brought back just to strangle out a couple of nostalgia bucks with some cheap imitation of the earlier games.
That's the big dilemma, isn't it? Let the series rest in peace or Watch EA bring it back and turn it into a cheap cashgrab. At the very least if the latter happens we'll see a resurgence in art and other fanmade content...

>>723415943
>I should read an annotated copy if I can get my hands on it, I feel like back when I read it most of the references from that time were lost on me. Didn't help that I was also like 10 years old.
Even if you do know all of the references, the books are still pretty meh. Then again, I like the Soviet cartoon where they made Alice super stoic for some reason so maybe that's why I found Book Alice to be so annoying with her incessant complaining and crying.

>>723416865
RIP

>>723418639
>Alice cum jar project

>>723417517
>>723416736
McGee doesn't have conservative views in the Western sense, he's lived in China for quite a while now and just doesn't have western leftist sensibilities.

>>723418146
>maybe that's why I found Book Alice to be so annoying with her incessant complaining and crying.
I dunno, she's like 9 years old, a lot of kids her age do tend to be annoying.

>>723419228
That is true, God knows I was one monstrous little bastard when I was little. With that being said, her character is still pretty annoying when compared to her cartoon counterpart and even other child protagonists; makes you wonder how Lewis Carroll would (allegedly - I do not believe the following nonsense and neither do most reputable sources) lust over Alice if he wrote her like that.

>>723419228
6-9 yr olds Ciel seem adorable

>>723414142
Ad for losers

>>723414057
Tits too big

>>723414937
Alice / Wonderland are public domain.

>>723421821
Post right one without cigarette

>>723422073
Alright alright, here you go.

>>723422235
Disney Alice actually underaged

>>723422391
Not that one. She's old enough to smoke after all.

>>723422415
She high on spices

>>723422235
/thread

>>723422235
Wew that one came out great.

>>723415943
Completely mog hot topic Alice

>>723422235
Whoa!

>>723422235
Is this real?

>>723417984
True, so at least for awhile we'll have new Alice art and fan content if worst comes to worst. Still, if a resurgence happens it also risks bringing in bothersome people.

>>723418832
Oh that I did know about. Makes sense though, seems he's been quiet over there though so who knows if he's been cooking something up.

>>723421821
I want to be in a toxic, codependent relationship with Alice on the left...

>>723423361
No it's actually two cats disguised as Alice

>>723411983 (OP)
There is not a single Alice who takes her meds

>>723411983 (OP)
Unending dormancy, interrupted by occasional flirtations with whoring the IP out for crossover content and/or a mobile-only sequel.

>>723423690
>>723423483
>>723423465
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nq4bq4ckWc

i love all alices but disney alice is my favorite and the hottest

PC Engine Alice need more recognition

>>723411983 (OP)
Maybe give it another shot now that Saudis bought EA

Alice owes Alice sex

>>723424925
Who? Respawn entertainment?

>>723423465
>I want to be in a toxic, codependent relationship with Alice on the left...
Anon no, you're supposed to want to fix her!

>>723417578
It's hard to not think about all the shit mcgee went when talking about his games

>>723411983 (OP)
god she's perfect

>>723426070
For me.

>>723411983 (OP)
nothing, ea owns it and all they do now is battlefield

>>723411983 (OP)
Fortnite

>>723414876
Too bad they had to go and make her 19...

The Alice Renaissance happens, but your Alice isn’t in it. Will (You) accept this?

>>723426909
Too late, my Alice is already here

>>723426659
To be fair, American McGee's version of Alice was also 19. They're pretty much forced to do that when making a game with even remotely adult themes.

>>723426975
That's it, I'm going to make a biblically accurate Alice game and I'll destroy anyone who gets in my path

>>723427104
Will Lorina be there?

>>723427104
Soon…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfp_DgpYOio

>>723423690
Accept the madnesses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fDBQ3x9X9g

>>723416028
screaming_gosling.jpg

>>723422731
AL-MUADDIB

>>723430409
Dune?

>>723430321
Here a cookie.

>>723416014
German Mcgee

>>723414671
Nobody cares, fagoon

>>723426659
>>723422391
Alice kiss her younger self.

>>723424764
This one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W747w4Fano4

>>723432234
Yes, that one!

>>723413946
My favorite part of the first game was that seething rant the jabberwocky goes on and alice wailing in pain. And then the epic gryphon fight. Pure kino. Also his design is cool. Imagine being a dragon that was btfoed by a dude and then you get turned into a cyborg dragon

Madness returns is cool because it follows up on the first games, with the jabberwock being a corpse but still haunting alice, and the queensland soldiers becoming undead monsters compared to their normal living counterparts in the first game.
ALSO JESUS FUCK WHY WAS CH 3 SO FUCKING LONG IN RETURNS OMFG

>>723432703
>You've kept me waiting, Alice. Have you never heard that punctuality is a virtue?
The Jabberwock is, hands down, the best character in the game. You know who he reminds me of? Fucking Drakor from Dinosaur Planet. I mean, think about it: both are cybernetic dragons, they have the ability to project a purple laser (Drakor from his arm cannon and the Jabberwock from his eyes), and both are the formidable lackeys of a greater force that is represented by a heart motif (the Great Kamerian Heart and the Queen of Hearts), not to mention the fact they absolutely hate women who dress in the color blue. However, while the Jabberwock's malice is pure, Drakor's hatred of Sabre and Krystal is because he sought to stop the Krazoa, the true villains, from aligning the Majestic Eight and attaining the powers of the Quan Ata Lachu, not to mention the fact that the Jabberwock is just a figment of Alice's imagination while Drakor is an actual creature that gets "a kick out of the disappearing coin trick."

>>723432703
>epic gryphon fight
Nostalgia by Darksiders

>>723433473
https://youtu.be/XYfcTGMT_ak
KINO

>>723413946
The first one does have that janky but wacky quake engine gameplay.

>>723432234
>>723429350
>>723428984

>>723433739
Honestly it just makes it more fun. I like the original Quake so playing AMA is a blast. The only thing I don't like is how you have to press ENTER to go down a rope. That and swimming, Alice for some reason swims like she's wearing heavy Vietnam-era jungle boots.
I'd say my most favorite part of the game is Looking-Glass Land. You have no idea how surprised I was to see Alice turn into different chess pieces and forced to move like how the pieces move in the actual game; it's the little things that made what would have been a mediocre edgy fairy tale game into something absolutely spectacular.

>>723434448
Just change the controls dummy

>>723433739
Heavy 2000 games as well

>>723435128
It's ok, I beat the first game anyway.

>>723436321
And Bionicle: The Legend of Mata Nui.

>>723411983 (OP)
Why does her bush look so weird?

>queen of spades on her dress
Cuck faggot devs thinking posting blacked video game characters is funny. Stop posting this garbage on /v/

>>723437558
White fragility on display lol

I played a weird JRPG on DS that was Alice themed. It had the whole playing cards and goth aesthetic to it. I remember getting stuck and trading it in because as cool as the art was it wasn't a good enough game to look up a guide. Cant remember what it was called though.

>120 posts until a /pol/tard made a regular Alice thread his weird cuck fetish
Can't we just talk about Alice and her computer games?

Speaking of Alice games, let's talk about Alice on Philips CD-i.

>>723437861
Threads with +100 replies tends to attract those types

>>723437771
?

>>723438115
>Londonian Gothics
Sounds like a font on a word processor.

>>723438253
naming my child londonian gothic now

>>723437974
N64 Alice was nice.

>>723438303
A relative of Times New Roman, I presume? Every time your child speaks, her speech will be rendered like Alis𝔞 v Str𝔞ne Chudes

>>723414810
What hurts more is that we didn't even get a finished version of Madness Returns.

>>723438337
N64 Alice? That's new. Enlighten me, anonymous fellow.

>>723438115
No. It was more moe style art

those....arent my alice
WHERE'S MY ALICE

>>723411983 (OP)
>American
He's Chinese now

>>723438803
>Chinese Wu Huang's Alice Asylum
>EA can't do anything about it
Genius...

>>723438434
lol

Mcgeek needs and exorcism
Like that much bad stuff
In one lifetime can not be natural

>>723438803
*Hungarian

>>723438495
classic hood

>>723422235
Imagine what AI will be doing in 20 years

>>723440930
I'm gonna be 60 then. Will my dick even work anymore to appreciate it? I don't know

For the queen!

>>723422235
good sloppa

>>723424169
This looks pretty neat anon! Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

>>723425982
Fix what? She's perfect already! I have an unhealthy attraction to pale mentally ill women...

>>723426659
If you're really desperate the best is Black Souls, I generally stay away from that game and it's community though.

>>723441364
....Sauce?

>>723411983 (OP)
I think the first game has better aesthetic and art direction. The sequel felt too...idk.

>>723441846
NEKO WORKs (Sayori) 04

>>723439194
>>723440312
Wish we could have gotten Coвeтcкихa MaкГиoвич: Aлиca. I want to use the Пoхититeль дyш...I mean, Bopпaльный мeч goddammit.

>>723426975
She was 16 in the first game, 18-19 in Madness Returns. She would have been 14 in Asylum

>>723411983 (OP)
literally nothing

>>723443320
*13

>>723443113
Like мeтaлл шecтepня вocхoдящий мecть

>>723426909
I will accept my loss if it means the world can know the joys of Alice in my stead.

>>723443320
I heard in Otherlands she's in her early 20's already, so uhhh...I'd smash.
>>723443580
Exactly like Metal Gear.

>>723411983 (OP)
>
SERIOUS QUESTION. Why is Alice in Wonderland always so often associated with drug using and schizophrenia ? I get it is a fictional world created by Alices mind, but there are quite a few other stories and characters with the same premire and they arent associated with such things

>>723444490
The whole drug/schizophrenia angle came about in the 1970's as a counterculture movement. Most people know it as simply the written detailing of a young kid's imagination, melded by their own personal knowledge with the wonder and fancy only a blissfully ignorant kid could come up with.

>>723444490
1971’Alice say no drugs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wto99f5lY0w

1981'Alice say yes to wine
https://youtu.be/60uXhucxf1c?t=9

>>723416736
If by "conservative" you mean fucking off to China of all places and create no-name games that literally nobody has heard of, than yea, journalists were right to unperson that weirdo.

Twas brillig and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe...

>>723444908
jagermeister not half bad

>>723445517
ToT

>>723444908
sounds almost warioland-esque

Alice meet Castlevania

>>723447002
I don't recall any Wario Land soundtracks that sound DRUNK.

I'm working on a game and I'm basing the protagonist off alice but nobody will know because I'll never ever admit that she's based off alice

>>723448123
If she's a little girl with long blonde hair and a cute dress and lives in/visits a magical world, people WILL call her Alice. Pic related, it's Regina, threw you a curve ball, faggot.

>>723448123
She better be a brunette as God intended.

>>723448123
Get her OC futa elves companion

>>723448250
Didn't the real Alice have a cute bob of black hair?

>>723448185
>>723448250
black hair
>>723448274
no companions.

>>723441846
>I have an unhealthy attraction to pale mentally ill women
Well, that makes two of us then...

What's your favorite dress? The hatter one of the coolest imo and apparently also mcgee's favorite

>>723450686
It's pretty good, I like short haired Alice. But I think for me it's the Royal Suit, with the Steamdress right after.

>>723450686
I honestly like the original blue and white dress. Would be nice if there was a costume that is just a plain white dress with a red bow and pink and purple socks. Shit, you know what? What about AMA multiplayer? Now THAT would be fucking wild, aside from the fact you can customize your Alice's colors like in Quake.

>>723411983 (OP)
being dead forever or being remade into woke slop pick your poison

>>723451034
What would a woke Alice be like?

>>723423465
>sample

>>723450931
those are prolly my next 2 faves, it's a bit weird the royal suit doesn't have any clubs on it tho lol
>>723450948
yeah the original is just perfect. also LEWD drawing
>AMA multiplayer
i'd play that.
*spawns big fuck off demon with the dice and runs away*
actually reminds me i should play that doom mod https://youtu.be/aIX9Ndfv7dk

>>723450948
>What about AMA multiplayer? Now THAT would be fucking wild, aside from the fact you can customize your Alice's colors like in Quake.
Well, there's this Doom mod which comes pretty close, you can customize her dress color too. No equivalent for Quake though as far as I know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIX9Ndfv7dk

>Filename
Cool, but have you seen this other picture of Alice's hairy pussy?

>>723451296
>>723451196
lmao im glad we were on the same wavelength

>>723411983 (OP)
Now that EA is owned by the saudis we MIGHT see a push for this if anything, dunno if they're interested in McGee's chinese studio though.

>>723440930
>in 20 years
Nigga, the Will Smith spaghetti AI video was in 2023
In only two years we've made that much progress
More like imagine what AI will be doing in just two more years

>>723451407
i mean mcgee retired from vidya and spicy horse isn't a thing anymore but eh. who knows

>>723451196
>>723451296
I never knew there was a Doom mod for Alice. As much as I cannot stand the controls of Doom, I can appreciate it.
Also, damn, Alice has one hairy black pussy. At least that one's more manageable.

>>723452054
Anyone have that one copypasta about Alice's 10/10 butt?

>>723451980
nice

>>723414671
I care, it is a interesting piece of trivia, that other anon is a faggot

>>723452102
Do Russian women look like this?

I love Lorina more than Alice.
I'm surprised there isn't more media with the rest of her sisters. I've only seen a single book about Mary Prickett by one of Alice's great grand-daughters.

>>723452102
Do you think Soviet Alice's butt is as good as McGee's Alice's butt? Maybe got any examples as well?

>>723452272
It is. I remember reading about it on a Russian website that interviewed one of the art directors (can't remember who) and he said that the communists wanted Alice to have blonde hair, blue eyes, and "a pink, frilly dress" (I remembered this part specifically because it conjured such a strange image in my head) and the artists at Kievnauchfilm (the production company), in an act of defiance, did the complete opposite and made her look "plain". The commissars were angry at this, but they couldn't do much about it and just let the artists roll with an Alice design that coincidentally looked almost identical to the actual Alice Liddell. I wish I could remember where I read it from because it's very interesting to have some insight into how cartoons in the Soviet Union were made since they never really did any behind-the-scenes features and most of the original cels and paper puppets no longer exist.

>>723452707
>the communists wanted Alice to have blonde hair, blue eyes, and "a pink, frilly dress"
that would be lame as fuck, no wonder their stupid country imploded

>>723452536
No, that's just what Russians and Ukrainians think British women look like.
>>723452604
According to Pruzhansky and his artists, Soviet Alice is as flat as a plank of wood. According to an anonymous artist in /co/, she's just a late bloomer.

>>723452604
Whoops, forgot to mention that we never get a look at Alice's butt shape: in the three minutes it takes for Soviet Alice to fall down the rabbit hole, at no point does she ever show anything. All we can infer is that she has an average butt through both Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass.
As for the previous spoiler in >>723452902, the artist from /co/ only ever gave us a look at what's near the attic and not the basement.

>>723452810
At least some people had the balls to go against the grain and make something original. As the proverb goes: fortune favors the bold, and as "weird" as Soviet Alice is, she's my favorite version of the character (aside from American McGee's version, of course).
Hell, a modern reprinting of the Russian translation (I believe in 2019) has illustrations made by an artist who wished to pay homage to Kievnauchfilm's Alice cartoons.

>>723453289
flamingo...

Because I am certain you all are probably tired of me babbling on about Soviet Alice, here's a sight for sore eyes.

>>723453749
You reminded me to actually finally watch this tomorrow. Thanks, anon.

the superior alice

>>723451468
i do think AI will continue to improve, but we could be closer to a softcap than we think. i'm sure many people said 'imagine what video games will look like in 10 years' in 2015 lmao.

>>723448123
You know what, I'm putting together a web novel and I'll put together a character based on Alice too anon.

>>723450546
Great minds think alike anon, not our fault our monkey brains respond so well to them. Thay being said I will further research the attached webm.

>>723452054
Wonderful rump on her!

>>723454025
>we could be closer to a softcap than we
I mean, maybe you're right, but for nearly a decade people have been repeating that it won't get any better every year and look at where we are now

>>723453964
If you do, I recommend the DailyMotion uploads since the colors aren't as washed out as the cartoons found on YouTube; I think whoever uploaded the YouTube versions only has access to worn copies of the film.
If you want the original Alice in Wonderland and Alice Through the Looking Glass with English subtitles, might I recommend the following website:
https://animatsiya.net/series.php?seriesid=31
On YouTube you can find an absolutely dreadful English dub of Through the Looking Glass made by none other than the British Broadcasting Company from 1986, four years after the original Russian version was made. I believe it was a part of a larger Christmas program (if the random VHS cut from a live-action program into the animated film is any indication), but I cannot say if this dub was a standalone thing or part of an anthology of sorts; if the latter, it would at least explain why Alice has the voice of a 30-year-old mother who works a desk job. Anyway, here's the dub (watch only after watching the original Russian version):
https://youtu.be/QOtQx2hqS7A

>>723454484
yeah i think we still have mindblowing advances ahead of us with video and image gen (plus whatever other ways they find to implement it). chatbot AI seems pretty much capped to me, though.

The motherfuckers that spam Soviet Alice are one of the reasons there's no more Alice madness games.

>>723454996
My bad. Just thought I'd talk about her.

>>723443320
>18-19 in Madness Returns
Literally a child

https://files.catbox.moe/zjeexa.webm

soulless golems love ai because it allows them to experience a generic knock off version, an off brand edition of the creative spark, something they will always be unfamiliar with in any meaningful way, something forever out of their reach. all they can do is generate laughable attempts at something resembling the expressions of people who have a soul. their best attempts are a mere emulation, its like watching a child draw a stick figure and express pride in it, except these are grown people who believe they're accomplishing something; in other contexts you might even pity them if not for the arrogance they display at having merely typed and stolen from their betters
aislop is how the golem copes with their station
coupled with low impulse control, its no wonder the internet is being flooded with endless streams of garbage by these embarrassments
generating with ai is truly one of the most spiritually brown things a person can engage in

>>723455269
>Alice is designed to look like a child
So women cannot dress in pretty dresses anymore? Literally Nineteen Eighty-Four.

>>723455269
any way to get the mod now?

>>723454996
>motherfucker
Fixed. It's only one faggot who's obsessed with it and won't stop shitting up Alice threads

>>723455269
>below the appearance of consent
can we please just liquidate these faggots already

>>723411983 (OP)
Just waiting until the the publishers thinks its time to do something with it.
Do you think Saudi princes like Alice?

>>723455296
it's just fagoon
he shits up lots of different topics, not just the gamedev threads

>>723455403
https://files.catbox.moe/x1b3ii.tpf

Texmod, cracked .exe, etc

>>723455506
>Believes Arabs can do anything other than kill each other

>>723455598
tyty

>>723416014
crazy hippies did

>>723448123
>>723454279
If we're talking about Alice expies, might I add in my own:
For context, in the fantasy land that my story takes place in, the number of humans is at an all time low with only a few scattered populations on the planet; talking animals who have progressed to a medieval level of technological advancement believe humans to be mythical beasts like dragons or griffins and capable of bending reality to their whim. One day, one of the members of the talking animal society finds a population of these rare humans and finds that they have a rich culture filled with many stories. One such story is known as The Magic Telescope and details the adventure of Elisa, a young girl who finds the eponymous device sitting ominously at the beach and, upon peering into the lens, finds herself magically transported into the middle of a war between the Kingdoms of Light and Shadow. Found by the Knight of Light, Elisa is enlisted into the ranks of the Kingdom of Light and is given a variety of Herculean trials to prove her worth to the cause, such as bringing down the Elephengine or taking the Queen of Light's place in a footrace against the swift Queen of Shadows, and, in exchange for completing these tasks, she can earn her rank, take down the Kingdom of Shadow and, ultimately, return home. Assisted by the Knight of Light and some animal familiars consisting of a hedgehog, a fox, and a badger, Elisa completes these tasks only for her guide to die in combat against the Shadow Knight. With her ally's death, however, Elisa is able to earn her rank and takes down the Shadow Knight in single combat and finds that her enemy is actually the Prince of Shadow, son of the King and Queen of the Kingdom of Shadow. Using the prince as a distraction, Elisa storms the Castle of Shadow with her animal familiars and checkmates the King, winning the war for the Kingdom of Light. After this, she is sent home and finds that she had dreamt the whole story.
The origin is interesting.

>>723454996
It's literally just one furry "game dev" piece of shit that does it. Just has to avatarpost.

>>723455269
their inquisition squad is now purging stuff going decades back

i want to fuck her honey cunny

>>723456216
nice dress

>>723456216
So, as you might be able to tell, this is a bastardized retelling of Through the Looking Glass. Within the universe of the fictional land, most works of fiction that we know and love have been all but lost to time, with only mere fragments appearing in dig sites by the humans. Think of it as like a Beowulf situation, where we derive all of our popular copies from a single manuscript, but instead of being sensible and writing it all down, the humans instead like to transmit their stories in oral tradition. So long ago when the humans found a very tattered copy of Through the Looking Glass, they filled in the blanks with their own made up stuff and, as centuries passed and different orators put their own spin on the story, what was once a story about a British girl walking through a mirror and playing a game of chess transformed into a story about how a girl looks through a telescope only to be magically transported Barsoom-style into the midst of a brutal conflict and having to wage war against the forces of darkness. At the point in which the talking animals found the human colony, the humans have long since written The Magic Telescope into a single canonical form, and the humans and animals all know this version of Lewis Carroll's classic tale and remain ignorant to the original.
That's the story. The picture I provided in the first post is an illustration of Elisa, her name obviously a corrupted version of Alisa, or Alice.
For the members of the audience like >>723456561, her dress is red because nobody had ever described her dress and, when someone asked the last orator what color her dress was, the orator said her dress was red with black accents on the fly. Elisa's brunette hair is a consequence of the fact that almost every human in this time period only has black or brown hair, with blond or red haired people being extremely rare and, for all intents and purposes, extinct.
That is the story.

>>723426909
This isn't your Alice, this is my Alice.

>>723456216
>>723456739
Shut the fuck up

>>723455269
>Alice is designed to look like a child
No, she was very much intended to be a young woman in both games. The devs just didn't want to slap a huge pair of titties on her to make such a thing clear.

>>723457246
I mean, it would be nice.

Asylum never

>>723456216
Interesting take, I'd say it could work. I intend mine to be more explicit, as my in my web novel Alice will appear as a manifestation of a parallel immaterial layer of reality where emotions and other intangible things manifest. A character will be in a contract with her and perhaps I'll make her something of a side character who acts as a symbol and assisting figure. And like the other anon said, nice dress on her.

>>723457230
Rude!

>>723457246
On one hand I can understand not sexualizing actual child or adolescent characters because it's creepy. But it's so dumb to apply it to this Alice as she's clearly designed to look like a young woman. A willowly young woman, but still clearly at a point of maturity.

>>723458175
TRVST THE PLVN

>>723458618
You know what could give some good inspiration for your web story? The Neverending Story by Michael Ende. Of course, instead of Bastian using Atreyu as a conduit to Fantastica, the land where all fictional stories take place, you have your character using Alice as a conduit to your ethereal intangible world.
As for my Elisa, I also thought of a plot point where the actual human girl that was said to have inspired the character was a special type of human known as a dreamweaver, a human capable of bending reality, but let the power go to her head as she tried to take over the planet as the Wondermonger; she would ultimately be defeated by the normal humans and was thrown into an icy wasteland to die from exposure but, with the last of her powers, she transformed from a human into a being made of living ice and began her reign as a vicious ice queen which explains why the ice queen is named Alice (aside from the ice pun). Honestly it seems a tad far fetched even for me and it makes the vast world seem just a little bit smaller, but it provides an explanation as to why the humans exile these dreamweavers and why, despite their abilities to bend reality to their whim, the god-like humans live in fear of the masses of normal humans.

Bump

>>723460851
go to sleep. alice needs her sleep.

>>723415885
It's Alice to you!

>>723444490
Alice is really about mathematics, which is a kind of mental illness

I'm contemplating reading Lewis Carroll's book. Should I do it?

>>723458138
Alice's tits are beautiful the way they are

>>723458175
Anon…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dffXFXduec

On the internet nobody knows you're Alice.

New Alice game will be announced within the next two years, screencap this post.

>>723455051
The Internet would be a much duller and uniform place without weirdos obsessing over minor characters. Please, continue at your leasure.

>>723461775
I'd rather you read the annotated alice, and just read the notes. So you learn something about the real world and history.

Fiction gets lame pretty fast if you can think.

>>723466721
>They give you all the assassin's creed to play if you have plus extra.
>There's not a single Alice game on the PSN store.

>>723411983 (OP)
Last I've heard there was a public funding page for a new one?

Never played the first one, heard good things though.

I love Alice

>>723467696
DmC look funky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKpfPtc9248

>>723464629
femAnon or troon out anon?

>>723458618
Most fans preferred loli Alice

>>723467214
Was there? First time I'm hearing about it, got a source?

>>723432234
mmy hips are moving on their own

>>723411983 (OP)
>spades
you just know

>>723448250
Alice is a blonde though. Carroll may have originally intended for her to be a brunette (see the illustrations he himself drew) but he ultimately greenlit Tenniel's depiction as the definitive Alice. Wonderland Alice =/= Alice Liddell. In fact, her appearance is allegedly based on Mary Hilton Badcock.
That said, brunette Alices like Mcgee's Alice and Russian Alice are pretty.

>>723455269
That website become hellhole. PCÜCK can’t recovered.

>>723453068
>>723452707
>>723452902
>>723452604
Turkic Alice is real Blonde Alice

>>723448351
Yes companion

>>723470505
Know what?

>>723470452
its ded

>>723470505
I do suck her cock form a doujin work

>>723471970
She likes to play cards

>>723471970
that the guy you're replying to is indian

Any good lewd Alice mods?

Alice sisters... We've never been so back. Also Habromania demo was really cool.

>>723464629
>On the internet nobody knows you're Alice.

>>723475526
>sister
You mean oniisan

>>723473850
How the black Alice?

>>723475526
Buy an ad, Cachi.

>>723475637
Where do I get a soviet Alice shitposter gf?

>>723476058
Last I checked she can be found behind the red walls of the Kremlin. Since this is a video game board, just think of your adventure as if you're playing Super Mario Bros. but in a more depressing and very cold land.

>>723476058
Somewhere in beyond Northern Japan

>>723475526
>>723454005
Wii U Alice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ictlrUvL3Po

>>723457230
lmao

FUCK Alice!

LOVE Alice!

>>723411983 (OP)
soulslike
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eOFxTZEWjR0

HAVE A GOOD TIME FLYING A KITE WITH Alice!

Do you guys think Alice would dig Raziel? I mean, they're both broody, verbose goths who like the color blue and definitely have something wrong in their noggins.

>>723476956
Is this like Armikrog?

>>723459012
Oh wow, thanks for the recommendation! I'll be sure to check it out, definitely sounds like something I could look to for inspiration. The immaterial world which I envision is more so where all memories, emotions and things of that nature reside, and whenever they cross over into our reality it's where people can form a contract with them.
Having Alice be a dreamweaver who gave the rest of the lot a bad reputation is interesting, and gives a reason as to why people are weary of them. Often in fantasy settings I wonder why the magically gifted people don't just assert themselves over the rest of the population. Especially so in this case where they are god-like, what prevents them from doing so?

>>723469223
Then evidently I'm not most fans.

>>723471224
Alice has largely come into her own separate of her inspirations. Sure the definitive Alice has been cemented but creators can tweak around the details to suit whatever they're making.

I can fix her

>>723414931
I remember loving the book and it's sequel as a kid. The Tenniel illustrations really cap it off.

Anyone know where to find a pdf of the Annotated Alice 150th anniversary edition in decent quality?

>>723422391
She is also not a real person, duh

>>723482665
>150th anniversary edition
Damn...

>>723480009
The Immaterial World really does sound like Fantastica but more benign: Fantasticans who cross the plane that divides the fictional world from the real world are immediately twisted into lies and agents of deception. Also, memories of those who travel to Fantastica are relegated to Yor's Minroud, also known as the Picture Mine, since doing as you wish as a human in Fantastica causes you to lose memories of the real world until you lose your mind and are thrown into the City of Old Emperors. Simply put, because of how fond I am of Michael Ende's work and how disappointed I was when it ended, you must let me know how your story develops as I am interested in reading it.
When considering the dreamweavers as to why they never attempted to take over the planet, it's simply because they should have been pure of heart. Magic, in the context of my story's world, is some unknown force found in the blood of creatures, with the humans having the an inconceivably high amount of this magic in their blood, and the dreamweavers having the highest amount of this magic. The issue with magic is that it transforms, but most dreamweavers prior to the Wondermonger were changed into the nicest people on the planet, living modestly and using their god-like powers only to perform miracles. The Wondermonger, consequently, was considered a "broken" dreamweaver, as she used her powers to conquer and enslave. While the Wondermonger is the only instance ever recorded, man, once bit, is twice shy and they have since began to exile the dreamweavers from their lands. One dreamweaver that lives in this story was exiled to an island of stone; with no human contact since his birth, he lives atop a mountain with his only companions: stone creatures of his own creation made in the visage of man. Though lonely, he never sought revenge against the people who banished him as he believes it would do him no good. Simply put, magic usually causes people to become pacifists, but not "Alice".

>>723481464
If you love it, then that's great; I personally cannot stand Book Alice because she was such a petulant little bastard (#justice4bill). With that being said, it is just my opinion and my opinion should not stop you from enjoying a culturally significant work.
>>723483071
Crazy to think about how a book written in 1865 is still widely talked about. Like, we went from The Epic of Gilgamesh, to the Iliad and the Odyssey, to the Divine Comedy, to The Snow Queen, and in Victorian England we got two books about a little girl meandering about in seemingly illogical lands written by a Christian mathematician of all people. I wonder what the next significantly important novel will be. Hope it isn't Harry Potter, though. I cannot stand that series.

>>723479852
Something like this.

>>723483932
>Hope it isn't Harry Potter, though. I cannot stand that series.
Unlikely, not because of the author, but because it's prose isn't compelling.
Plenty of other fantasy tales would beat it. Shit, I'd argue Star Wars the novelization would beat it out.

>>723484178
>D
>S
>L
Always the fucking crazy ones!

>>723484178
moar

>>723484712
>>723484660
Ai mean nothing

>>723484572
Cool. I'll see if my sister can dig up the old family Wii U and hack it to play this when I return home. She's a whiz when it comes to hacking Nintendo consoles.
>>723484587
That's what I mean. I can agree with some of Rowling's opinions, but I find her stories boring: Goblet of Fire was pretty good but Order of the Phoenix was such a slog that I could never get past the intro. It makes me wonder how the Boy Who Lived was able to have such a stranglehold on popular culture if the books are so meh.
I feel like, if I knew the conventions of writing a book, I could write something better.

>>723484712
Have one more.

>>723484878
Full lips made for sucking dick transcend your meagre labels.

Wasn't the author of the book trying to groom his niece with this book

>>723484924
To wit, anon, you can just write the damn book and find an editing program.
>>723485161
Well, we all have goals.

>>723413094
Exporting degeneracy to infidels doesn’t bother them in the least man. In fact it’s a feature. China sends fentanyl for the same reason.

>>723485161
First of all, Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (Lewis Carroll) and Alice Liddell were not related: Alice was Carroll's friend's daughter. Second of all, Dodgson was not trying to "groom" her: he just told her and her sisters that story on the fly while on a rowboat trip and Alice, loving the story, asked him to write it down because it was her favorite story. If Dodgson was banging anyone, my money's on him banging Mrs. Liddell.

>>723485465
China's just getting some payback for all the opium.

>>723485578
>Dodgson was not trying to "groom" her
Early lolicon did nothing wrong.

Lewis Carroll was a pedophile.

He said all little girls should be naked.

>Lolita temptress character is literally named 'Liddel'
Bit too contrived for my taste.

>>723485710
Classic pedophile cope brought about by creeps who sided with Jimmy Saville in the wake of Operation Yewtree. Putting words into the mouth of a dead man is absolutely abominable.

>>723485578
>my money's on him banging Mrs. Liddell.
Respect.

>>723486012
He wasn’t interested with dry up hags

>>723485668
Back then they called it courting.

>>723486012
I'm just saying that him banging Mrs. Liddell with Alice being his bastard daughter a better explanation for why Dodgson really only cared for Alice and the rift between him and Henry Liddell, who he considers a best friend, than if he was "le pedo loli lover ToT".

>>723486287
>dry up hags
Hello, Mr. ESL.

>>723486287
Why not?
Real men are of expansive taste.
>>723486357
Once more, respect. Bagging another man's promised woman is a celebration of Dark Skill.

>>723486651
>ranjeets
Hello, Brown ESL.

>>723486907
According to Wikipedia:
>Karoline Leach drew attention to the large amounts of evidence in his diaries and letters that he was also keenly interested in adult women, married and single, and enjoyed several relationships with them that would have been considered scandalous by the social standards of his time.
>keenly interested in adult women, married and single
>scandalous
Yep, Mrs. Liddell was 100% getting backshots from the stuttering autistic mathematician. Moral of the story: if Dodgson can fuck, so can all of you.

>>723487568
>kikepedia

>>723487656
Fine. Here's a citation, you fucking nerd:
Leach, Karoline (1999). In the Shadow of the Dreamchild: A New Understanding of Lewis Carroll. London: Peter Owen.

>>723487696
Wouldn't "kikelpedia" or whatever want to paint Dodgson as a degenerate pervert instead of the other way around?

>>723411983 (OP)
He will depict a little girl he self inserts himself as getting raped in the video game

How come there's no Alicepedia?

>>723455269
ohnonono, MOOOOODS

>>723411983 (OP)
absolutetly fucking nothing.
Guy's just gonna keep sailing around asia and fucking his chink wife with his quake money.

>>723488148
On that note, what exactly makes someone an Alice? There has to be more than just having the name.

>>723488148
Best we have is Alisa (brought to you by Yandex).
Speaking of which, if we rounded up every Alice and pitted them against one another in a battle royale, who would win? Better yet, would they even fight or will they rise up against us in Glandeco-Angelinnian proportions for ever attempting to have them fight in mortal combat?

>>723413295
I beat the first game 3 years ago and dropped madness returns. I honestly think the OG plays better and is more interesting.

>>723413635
Russians? Yeah, I support genociding them.

>>723488423
While the first game plays better I like the story and art direction in the second game. I really appreciate how some of the areas look in Madness Returns.

>>723413707
>>723414030
>>723414443
>>723414715
Bongoids ever good looking?

>>723488370
It's a combination of things:
>Name
>Girl
>Curiosity
>Critical Thinking Skills
>Imagination
That's pretty much it. How she looks is up to the author.

When we get PS4/Swtich port of Madness Return?

>>723488752
They can look good if they straighten their teef out. Something about a woman with a bong voice is just very soothing to me, like I want her to read to me a bedtime story after furiously having barbaric, sweaty, disgusting sex with her.

Oh, right, this is an American McGee's Alice thread.

>>723489571
Was bulimia a conscious design choice?

>>723489571
Who remember this game?

>>723489779
I guess initially. Then the devs of Madness Returns thought about it some more and made Alice into a goth supermodel.

>>723489863
Never even heard of it. Enlighten me.

>>723489897
Goth supermodel? More like hot topic cosplays.

>>723490023
True. The only goth supermodel is the one and only RAZIEL (before the Kaincel pulled a Supreme Gentleman on him and disfigured his ass)

>>723490020
Argonaut’s truly last good games

>>723490285
American McGee's Soul Reaver look sick

>>723490782
I was thinking about how Alice and Raziel would be very good friends, the two supporting one another as they navigate life as toys broken by greater forces outside of their control.
The descent had destroyed them. And yet they lived.

>>723491187
Or Kain rivalry with BloodRanye

>>723491510
Definitely. There just needs to be a whole goth video game universe where everyone just kind of exists.

I do wish madness returns had more weapons. That said, thank god the few weapons that do exist feel good to use

>>723492649
Nothing beats the Jabberwock Eye Staff.

>>723483346
I will say that these concepts do somewhat align with what I myself am going for in my work, though I was taking more inspiration from several other fictional settings in constructing my work, with an original framework and storylines of course. If you wish to be updated or be told of what I've come up with in more depth could you tell me what threads you frequent? Or if you wish to maintain a correspondence elsewhere?
So the dreamweaver's pacifism is born out of their magic? Causing a change even in it's users is novel and quite intriguing, begs the question of how magic came about and why Alice in particular became broken.

>>723485578
>>723485951
These anons get it

>>723488752
I've always had a certain affection for Anglo women, the refined ones are the most appealing. >>723488997 This anon put it quite well but McGee's Alice in particular just fits the type of woman I hopelessly fall for.

soul...
https://youtu.be/3goPTHlFQnE

>>723413026
https://files.catbox.moe/gwd2hi.mp4

>>723479391
Raziel isn't mad at all, just rightfully pissed off.

isnt the third alice game basically 100% complete concept-wise?

>>723493747
yeah there's a design bible that was released. there's some fans working on a fangame but that will take god knows how long

>>723411983 (OP)
nice spade

alice bros, i recommend playing the indie game withering rooms, it very slightly scratched the mcgee's alice itch for me

>>723494878
oh yeah i started playing that a while back but never finished it, it's neat

>>723493020
>could you tell me what threads you frequent? Or if you wish to maintain a correspondence elsewhere?
I frequent the game developer threads because I am adapting my own story as a computer game, with the Alice thing being an explanation as to why a human dreamweaver, though revered for her prowess in shaping reality, is in hiding and never revealed her powers to anyone prior meeting the player character. I also like to peruse threads related to games that would be considered "retro". But definitely let me know how your storyline progresses; I'd be more than happy to read it and recommend it to my friends.
Concerning magic, it's not known how it came about. The talking animals, a scientifically-inclined race, explain it as the consequence of the Firestorm, a cataclysmic event that destroyed nearly all life on the planet and gave rise to the talking animals in the first place, causing some sort of mutation that allows them to manipulate supernatural forces. Magic is just magic, nobody knows how it came about but many have tried to learn only to find more mysteries left unsolved. What is known, however, is that the blood of a dreamweaver can imbue someone with the magical powers such that, theoretically, a creature that is not magically-inclined can have the powers of a god without being forced to walk the righteous path by replacing his own blood with the blood of a dreamweaver (this will definitely not be an important plot point later).
As for why Alice became broken, she was just born that way; the powers that be just thought it would be fun to humble mankind by revealing the kind of hell a mad dreamweaver could unleash after finding the humans were taking advantage of the dreamweavers' kindness.

>>723493605
TRVE

>>723493221
Games really need to do that again.

>>723484660
>TFW she's DSL

But would American even make a good Alice game nowadays?

>>723497538
Nah, I think his spirit got crushed by EA

test

>entire alice thread and not a single mention
I... am forgotten...

>>723498871
Only played about an hour of this game but DS Alice is very cute. Is it worth playing the full thing?

>>723498871
Best Alice puzzle games alongside Oz DS

>>723451196
>>723451296
Is this good?

>>723454936
I think the big issue right now is that AI can't really understand nuance at all. I've used it as a tool to help me brainstorm ideas for stuff I'm writing, but if you ask it to write something it's really very juvenile and basic.

>>723489897
Not quite, but they considered it.

>>723499154
it's fun. i mean it's not a total conversion, you basically get to play as alice in different boom shoot maps. the mod author said he's working on an enemy pack but it'll take a while. so hey, maybe some day it'll be boom shoot alice

Posting an obscure and forgotten Alice

Does this Alice count?

>>723500063
What is this, a Shadow Raiders-sponsored post?

>>723499687
The one on the right looks like Hermione for some reason.

>>723499687
I want new Rozen Maiden video games

You guys remember when the gays killed American McGee's sister.

>>723498871
>Disney

>>723500063
Did her designers have an aversion to solid colors or something? That's an awful lot of checker board and playing card motifs for just one dress.

>>723437558
Imagine how mentally ill you have to be to look at a poker symbol and associate it with nog cocks. Kill yourself.

>>723437558
>>723437635
Imagine how mentally ill you have to be to look at a poker symbol and associate it with nog cocks. Kill yourself.

Habromania dev is streaming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C3RqWH8X_k

>>723501348
Stop responding to blatant bait, you silly sausage.

>>723437635
Poo poo in the loo

>>723501539
What do you think her opinion is on the Lewis Carroll's views on women debate?

I'm going to Alice.

>>723501875
>The Alice Game is Rozen's plan to find the doll who is worthy enough to become "the perfect girl", Alice. It is said that whoever becomes Alice is loved most by Father and will be able to personally meet him.

>It is seemingly won by fighting and collecting all of the Rosa Mystica, but this is later proven incorrect. If a doll's Rosa Mystica is not willingly given to another doll, the Rosa Mystica will hurt the recipient doll. It is discovered that the way to win the Alice Game is by forming strong bonds with the other dolls.

>By winning the Alice Game, the winning doll will be granted a wish by Rozen.

>>723501875
I like how the gigots look.

Hopefully dead. I don't want any company to desecrate it.

>>723502010
Need a sequel to this >>723422235

>>723422235
>Grok

>>723502405
See>>723425263

>>723502010
How many "fans" do you think actually understand "I'm going to Alice" is a shitty translation of "I'm going to where Alice is" instead of having the name be used as verb?

>>723503012
Never cared for Japanese games and their not-very-good-writing.

>we could've heard Alice sing
):

>>723503119
Except that they are good

>>723503642
Not really. AMA is wonderful, Legacy of Kain is a masterpiece, and Kameo is absolutely tragic; Biggu-Tiddi Desu Final Waifu Fantasy Pennsaitama Simurator 2005 XP is none of that.

>>723503851
>Legacy of Kain is a masterpiece
sorry, but a story that revolves around time travel cannot be good. Never has.

>>723503909
And, pray tell, what is a "masterpiece" in your completely wrong eyes? Dark Souls?

>>723471970

Alice

>>723504064
nta but dark souls is a masterpiece

>>723504064
no videogame deserves that title.

>>723440546
Those aesthetics are SHOCKINGLY similar to paper mario.

>>723504231
I honestly say it's overrated.

>>723504348
Looks more like the cutscenes in Yoshi's Story.

>>723504474
was yoshis island proto paper mario

>>723411983 (OP)
Alice does drugs and then fights a black girl.
>>723416014
There is an actor with the name Texas Battle, so yes

>>723411983 (OP)
Does anyone else think of a vagina where the spade is placed on her dress or is it just me

>>723504619
Proto-Paper Mario was Super Mario RPG.

>>723504772
I don't really think about alice's vagoo oddly enough.

>>723504951
See I only think about it when she's, uh, you know, showing it.

>>723505174
O_O

>>723504772
It would make a nice pattern for her pubes

>>723501539
>Girl
>Making Alice game
Only a man can write an Alice

>>723505330
Alice never struck me as one with pubes. She seems like the kind of girl who would buy one of those weird Victorian-era vagina wigs (yes, that is a real thing).

>>723505463
>googled it
wtf lol that's insane

>>723505615
damn. ppl r fucked up.

>>723505616
It was a different time.

>>723455410
>>723454996
Why is there so much beef between alice factions? Why the fuck is this schism even a thing?

Stop being lustful for Alice

>>723505463
>Alice never struck me as one with pubes.
You mean the dishevelled girl who barely earns any money and has spent a lot of time in a mental asylum would bother with shaving her pubes?

>>723505932
It's just one retard trying to start shit. It's like the saying goes:
>Every wolf suffers fleas. 'Tis easy enough to scratch.

>>723501539
Rare underwear Alice spotted on stream

This not hedge maze should've been like 3x longer. Actually every time I think of hedge mazes, I just think of the one in Blood. Which was perfect because it was broken up by secrets, open areas, and cool spooky mansion.

>>723505993
I feel like her body just produces too much estrogen to allow the creation of dense hair follicles on her body so she's just as smooth as a bowling ball.

>>723461775
>I'm contemplating reading Lewis Carroll's book. Should I do it?
It's not horribly long for a curiosity read, if you're interested in it for the sake of context for other Alice-related media. Though going into it as an adult you probably can't derive that much enjoyment from bunch of random stuff happening for no reason, at least as much as you'd enjoy it as a bedtime story when you were a kid.

>>723506470
pit status on alice?

>>723504113
>>723505615
I'm surprised there was never an official cards deck printed for American McGee's Alice or Madness Returns.

>>723506592
Uh, nothing? I refuse to believe she is a smelly hobo living under a bridge.

>>723506538
>Though going into it as an adult you probably can't derive that much enjoyment from bunch of random stuff happening for no reason, at least as much as you'd enjoy it as a bedtime story when you were a kid.
I think adults can still appreciate the absurdity of it all.

>>723506470
I've never heard of a woman who doesn't grow hair down there, even if it's just a little bit.

>>723506681
i would probably buy, i'm surprised there aren't many projects for it on etsy either

>>723507021
I don't know, man. I just cannot imagine Alice with pubes. It's like trying to imagine a new color.

>>723507171
I cannot imagine alice without a dress on desu LOL

Wow, can't believe this thread has been up for over a day.

>>723505935
Never. Love and lust can coexist, you know.

>>723485587
The opium, itself, was payback for the chinks always scamming, and acting in bad faith.

>>723422235
Mecha Hitler delivering great content I see.

>>723500063
I actually played Raid for a bit just because it had Alice. Pretty hot babe.

>>723505935
I just want to hug her and enjoy her company.

>thought I was going to fight dormouse + hare mecha
>fucking dies to a giant teapot falling out of the sky
...

>>723509180
>Random pink fluid starts oozing from their mouths
AI never ever

>>723508843
That was bullshit yeah. There was supposed to be an actual boss fight but it got cut.
It can still be seen in the prototype, all the animations are there but the battle mechanics themselves don't work. There was a video somewhere on youtube but I can't seem to find it right now.

>>723509329
ahhh fuck. that makes sense. what a bummer.

>>723509289
Yeah, I asked for saliva and it just gets their lip color and turns it into goo. Better without it.

>>723503439
I don't know, man, Alice seems more to me like a trapeze artist than a clown. Then again, I'm not really in-tune with the vision McGee had.

>>723509289
Alice's cunning ploy to shrink Alice by slipping "drink me" potion into her mouth!

>>723509527
>>723509597
Never trust Automaton Art.

>>723422235
I love Alice

were most of alices weapons in the first game weird projectile ones? trying to think of the design philosophy behind them.

>>723510041
Which one?

>>723510118
The Croquet Mallet also doubled as a melee weapon in addition to firing the hedgehog balls and the Diabolical Dice are just a weird demon summoning thing.

>>723509536
Alice's role as a clown was meant to be something that was forced upon her by the Tweedles, whose circus level is basically a denialist representation of her treatment at the insane asylum.

>>723510420
jacks were also funky projectiles, jackbomb was a turret/bomb, ice staff was a flamethrower type. ig there's a handful of weird weapons and then some really straight forward ones like the staff and playing cards. and then your super powerful weapons like the gun and jabberwock eye

>>723510610
Oh, got it.

>>723470452
>Was there? First time I'm hearing about it,
It was some time ago so I don't have a source, niether do I know if they've reached the funding goal they wanted.
But I do remember American wanting to try exploring Alice further, in some form of media or another, attempted with public funding fwiw.

>>723510170
NTA, buuuuuuuutttt...

>>723411983 (OP)
McGee just sells plushies while talking about how great it is to live in Shanghai these days

>>723504113
My wife!

>>723512231
Good for him, desu. Has two cute hapa kids, a cute wife and can just chill in a safe place while designing plushies.
What I don't envy is the mentally ill marxist part of the fanbase he has to deal with, but desu that's kinda on him for having and participating in an official discord channel about his merch.

alice game where she's a monster girl?

Madness returns needs to be cut down by like 5 hours. It has no business being any longer than the first game when it's so brainlessly repetitive and boring.

>>723512738
>alice game where she's a monster girl?
Whoa there, Unicorn.

>>723512960
Aka chapter 3 should be cut down.

>>723513041
w-what?

>>723513146
You obviously never read Through the Looking Glass if you couldn't get such an elementary reference. Please stop jerking off to porn of Alice and read a book.

>>723512738
There one.

>>723513225
yeah i havent read through the looking glass, just watched the disney movie and played the mcgee game. how does that answer my original question?

What’s the name for this aesthetic?

>>723512960
For a game with so much cut content, it's kind of a shame that it ended up padded out so mercilessly.

>>723411983 (OP)
Where can I play the first game these days? Just emulate it somewhere? Did it get a PC port outside of Steam?

>>723513323
If you read the book you would get your answer on Alice as a monster girl.

>>723513628
Someone long ago posted a link to a Steam page that links to a Mediafire page with the game for PC. After getting the game as McGee intended (since he sees no royalties and hates EA), you can then download VorpalFix to turn the game from an unplayable piece of doodoo into something that can run on modern computers.
Here's to hoping you don't have a Mac, because playing AMA on a Mac is a total bitch (I know from experience).

>>723513840
EA lawyers knocking the door?

>>723513323
dont listen to the avatarnigger

>>723513946
The second EA stops sitting on the Alice IP to go after me, McGee's going to run up and steal it from them. It's a lose-lose situation for them.

>>723481342
Can you? Or do you want her to fix you?

>>723411983 (OP)
>2 day old thread
Dedicated Aliceposters
I really hope McGee tries again now that EA has changed ownership and hopefully the Saudis allow it

>>723515372
i'll be here all week

>>723413946
Same. The weapons are super unique and per their name are fun toys to play with. I love the funky atmosphere too. It's like a higher budget version of Quake. The second game had a stronger story but the gameplay wasn't anything special.

>>723515463
Anime time!

>>723413094
The Saudi elites fucking love degenerate anime stuff, if they're were over seeing a new alice game she'd have way more scandalous outfits than madness returns

>>723515776
returns needed more weapons to mess with. it has a good base for the combat

Which is the better game: the first or the second one?

>>723516264
I like the first one more >>723515776
It's worth playing both in order though

>>723411983 (OP)
Work at Konami.
>>723498512

>>723515372
>implying it would even reach them
also mcgee is over making games, he only makes mental illness plushies now

>>723517070
>Wait a second? I have some form of autism?

An Alice in Wonderland Soulslike would be...poggers.

>>723517454
>Soullike
Basically Castlevania 64 meet Darksiders III

>>723516264
uhhh i like the first one more overall like looking at the story, art, weapons, voiceacting, but the second one is quite good and memorable as well despite my issues with it. if 2 had more weapons then it would be harder for me to decide but i would sitll probably favor the first game

>>723498180
More suffering would eventually make for a great game.

Alice.

Another successful Alice thread.

She would be 100% improved with bimbo tits and pierced nipples.

>>723519283
no

I can't see Alice anymore without thinking of this deviantart guy who keeps posting what I can only describe as "giantesses who are very late to something and have to run to get there without care for any destruction they cause"

>>723519283
Make her ganguro design

>>723519283
You just want to turn her into a slut.

>>723519556
Also yes it's sloppa

>>723517454
just put stamina bar in Madness Returns and watch /v/ have a meltdown

>>723519283
No she wouldn't, Dr Bumby.

>>723519834
Not in my fantasy world!

My sister is dressing up as her for Halloween

>>723520028
cool

>>723519283
The fuck?

>>723520028
Dress up one from PC Engine, Toei, and Funky Fables ver.

>>723520028
She's dressing as American McGee's version? Nice.

You keep forcing this thing about Alice being "underground" despite it being in literally every household on every bookshelf.

>>723520853
Nobody's doing that. You're just butthurt over a little girl

>>723520853
Do you have AMA in your game library?