Thread 723416196

Now that the dust has settled, what the FUCK went wrong?

>160 gb - only about 130 gb too big
>unoptimized photorealism
>controls all kinds of fucked up
they traded soul for slop

>>723416196 (OP)
Worth it under $30?

>>723416196 (OP)
one of the best games of the year. no one played it because nobody plays video games anymore.

>>723416196 (OP)
no a-life.

consoles. every pc exclusive that becomes multiplat will always be dumbed down. no exceptions

>>723416196 (OP)
Unreal 5.

intended for russia (biggest fanbase) but decided to go full zelenskike

>>723416196 (OP)
No A-Life and open world

>>723416196 (OP)
completely mogged by a furry stalker clone. its over

A ton but basically they released it in early access and are slowly """fixing""" the game as time goes on
I beat the game when it first came out and I'm looking forward to seeing just how much they've added and fixed since then

>>723417120
bait used to be believable

>first three games were 5 gig and could run on a toaster
>very jank, maximum atmosphere but not really fun to play
>newest game is suddenly over 150 gig and requires nasa tier pc to play
>jank and atmosphere is gone but still not fun to play

>>723416196 (OP)
Lied about A-loife and tried to delete it from previous marketing

>>723416473
Wait for $20.

>>723417206
>could run on a toaster
Lol, secondary tourist.
Enjoy the newest GAMMA update?

>>723416196 (OP)
Stalker fans with a CPU without AVX instructions, who can only seethe and listen to grifters who said them that gamma\anomaly is better

>>723416414
He asked about stalker 2, not SOC

>>723416196 (OP)
I played it using a game pass promo. I really liked it

It was a scam. Sorry, but Ukraine needed the money.

>>723416196 (OP)
Modded Stalker 1 is better than Stalker 2 on every level, including visuals

>>723417401
you played neither. prove me wrong poser kid

>>723417401
Cope, all your favorite "visual" mods make the image black and white or rust and white, or grey dirt and white. Modders can't appreciate the beauty of the Zone, they need le cheap horror filters

>>723417724
Cope & Dilate

>>723417607
I did.

>>723416196 (OP)
Impossible to say because, even now 1 year later, the game still isn't done. They still aren't done with their roadmap, none of the promised DLC is anywhere close to release and a-life still isn't properly implemented.

>>723417892
post hours plays buyfag poser.

>>723416196 (OP)
slavs, hohols, polacks, browns, gooks, kikes, ect = scammers
in this case, they had fiverr work on this game and the ceo got away with all the profits

UE5 -> Shit performance -> Open world can't do A-Life -> Not S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

>>723417341
nice cardboard trees and default skyline lmao not even worth a pirate here's your (You) (4chan reddit karma points) for you

One of the worst game I ever played. Like really - uninstalled and forgot. I dont have time to waste to play anything like this.

>>723418098
A life never existed and never was a thing. The old games were still supposedly good.

>>723416587
Kinda, the only thing bad with the game right now is that the mutants don't have the same natural behavior of the old games when they're not chasing you. Before, you could see them resting or doing other things, like taking a killed stalker to a more private place to eat it. Now, you just see them, they see you, and they start attacking you.
>How about the bugs.
They are almost inexistent now.
Oh, and another factor why this game is not popular in /v/ is the lack of womens, so coomers and gooners don't have nothing good or bad to say about it.

>>723417206
you are so dumb. yeah 5 gigs was a lot back in 2007 when the first game came out.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/2007-hdd-rundown,1522.html

200 - 400gb HDD was for high end gaming pcs, something youd need to play stalker on launch in 2007.

>>723416196 (OP)
Nothing but a rushed release. Game's fuckin' dope now.

>>723416196 (OP)
AI is shockingly bad. Soldiers freeze behind cover for several minutes with half their body poking out, like their AI can't decide what they're doing. Dogs can't pathfind more than 2 inches off the ground and will just alternate between charging at you and running behind a tree if you climb on a 2ft high box. Enemies are given immediate god mode sight to see you through walls if you enter certain areas like the southern checkpoint buildings. I shot a neutral NPC in the back from 2 feet away with a silenced gun and he turned round, stared at me, yelled "HE MUST BE HERE SOMEWHERE" then walked past me. Then 15 feet away turned round and started shooting me. It's just awful.

>>723416196 (OP)
I hate it. Absolutely dissatisfied and disappointed. It's so bad, so frustrating, there's nothing fun about the game what so ever. I'd rather go sand a wall.

>>723417401
The og trilogy had better art direction thats for sure. 2's zone has this sanitized feel that doesn't give me that constant unending feeling of depression, dread and death the first games did.

>>723416196 (OP)
They started a war against Russia to embezzle funds from war effort donations and use them to develop the game.

I am not often heavily disapointed of the game I purchase but this is probably my biggest disapointment in years.

>>723416473
I quit playing after 10 minutes, I am angry that I paid $$ for this, even at 90% off this game is still a rip-off.

>>723416196 (OP)
>what the FUCK went wrong?
R*ZZians. It's always r*ZZians.

>>723416196 (OP)
Voice acting is the worst I've ever heard in a game, ever. This one I do kind of get though. It's weird hearing a load of posh English, American and Irish voices in the zone but at the same time I doubt they have any competent male Ukrainian English speaking voice actors available. tip for the dev team though they can use any slavic voice actor, we can't hear the difference between a Slovakian and a Ukrainian but we do know that Chernobyl isnt full of London cockneys. And the actors chosen are awful too, clearly the devs can't hear how bad their delivery is since they're not native speakers but it sounds like they hired meth heads off the street in exchange for pizza.

So far this game is absolutely awful and so boring.

>>723418689
I'd rather have voice acting like this instead of AI though.

>>723417848
insanely good skyboxes in Gamma

>>723416596
Cause they lied they’re is no alife what so ever it’s scripted for example “if player walks behind building spawn 3 bandits, when player kills 3 bandits spawn 2 boars.” so on and so forth i can’t believe a free mod is so much better than something they have had 15 years to develop

Basically it's Fallout 4 for more sophisticated people. So that's a very small percentage of the audience at the start.

>>723417848

issue with these mods is that it's such an unemployedcore experience

Enemy spawning directly behind you is oppressive, I don't feel like I can control my environment - I walk 30 meters in one direction and I can almost guarantee a swarm of dogs or bandits will spawn within immediate detection range somewhere outside my LoS. I climbed a tower looked around and a bunch of soldiers and hogs spawned directly underneath me and started attacking eachother because I stopped looking down. Alife is nonexistent, ive tested it and it's just a map full of strictly defined spawn points that trigger when you're out of direct LoS

>cut a feature from previous games
>put it back and advertise it as new thing
Hacks. Still not as bad as Dying Light 2 guns.

>>723416196 (OP)
>third world

>>723418969
Skill issue, the progression is pretty smooth if you know the mechanics.

>>723416196 (OP)
as soon as that epic jew sergay gaylonkin announced it'll be unreal engine slop I knew it would look and run like shit

AI is shockingly bad. Soldiers freeze behind cover for several minutes with half their body poking out, like their AI can't decide what they're doing. Dogs can't pathfind more than 2 inches off the ground and will just alternate between charging at you and running behind a tree if you climb on a 2ft high box. Enemies are given immediate god mode sight to see you through walls if you enter certain areas like the southern checkpoint buildings. I shot a neutral NPC in the back from 2 feet away with a silenced gun and he turned round, stared at me, yelled "HE MUST BE HERE SOMEWHERE" then walked past me. Then 15 feet away turned round and started shooting me. It's just awful.

>>723416196 (OP)
There is no ALIFE 2.0. It's just spawn of enemies or random stalkers in radius.

Controls on console are shocking, makes the game almost unplayable especially in combat. No idea how this got past the first 5 minutes of QA

>>723417206
STALKER was super demanding for the time, the lighting engine they used was state of the art and all the AI stuff was pushing 2005 CPUs to the limit. CoP was also an early DX11 benchmark game.

>>723419348
This was a killer. The zone didn't feel alive, it felt like an attraction.

>>723416196 (OP)
After years of waiting, this 160GB heap of unoptimised files is what we get. And every update just makes it worse. Genuinely disappointing game.

>>723419502
Fake world and Fake AI.

>>723416196 (OP)
Stalkers were always utter garbage. Why would Stalker 2 be any different?

>>723416196 (OP)
this is literally a scam.

>>723416196 (OP)
>what the FUCK went wrong?
It was made by activists with zero soul.
The way they spell Chernobyl should tell you that already.

>>723416196 (OP)
this game is a big yikes. as of now its not worth touching till its completed or fans make some good mods. the game is flawed to the core. i ran into many issues from keybinds being wrongly displayed to side quest being bugged or unable to compete. enemies shoot though bushes while spotting me several hundred meters away. AI is still brain dead but at the same time they can turn on a dime and shoot with perfect accuracy. what a mess bro.

>>723419946
Renaming it Chornobyl was objectively the only good thing about the game, as it still causes immense seething to this day, which I enjoy a lot. Best entertainment for 0$

>>723418286
>>723419278
Nice bots, orcs. Go get packed in a meat cube already.

>>723417848
too bad grok has a retarded take on what's "fun" in stalker
guy says he made it so you don't have to unload guns because it was "unnecessary tedium" but then proceeds to add a ton of shit that is by definition unnecessary tedium
also it's unironically easier to mod anomaly from scratch and tweak everything yourself than to try and unfuck GAMMA.

>>723420030
>making games just to cause seethe is actually a good thing!
You must be the biggest Avowed fan out there huh?

>>723420078
hohol is mad reeeee

>>723419635
True, the retail versions suck ass, but the mods are what make them actually playable.

>>723420181
Any and all the tedium is fully customizable, you can turn it into journalist mode with a few slider touches, literally not an argument. It's a freeplay mod, ultimately you as the player decide how to make your own fun and gamma lets you.

>>723420420
>also it's unironically easier to mod anomaly from scratch and tweak everything yourself than to try and unfuck GAMMA
grok is a fucking retard who flipflops on his decisions, he has many reddit comments that are completely retarded and counter act each other, he says he wanted to remove tedium but then proceeds to add a ton of it through item bloat and other shit, he knows it's gay going through all the weapons to field strip and grab the "valuables" so he added an autolooter, to do all that for you, I refuse to believe he plays with default settings, the guy is so fucking stupid with the way he posts online with opposing opinions on his own fucking mod pack

>>723418689
My question is why do you play in English? Too retarded to read subtitles?

>>723416196 (OP)
The answer it's simple

>>723420581
I don't know the guy and don't follow any drama.
I just play the mod and have fun, you should try that too. I have not a single clue what you want to unfuck that can't be done with a few MCM settings and toggles of a few optional mods.

Because producers and devs have no idea WHY a game is popular. They saw that stalker had legs, assumed people were interested in the IP itself (and not the unique blend of mechanics), and built some cookie cutter AAA trash that focuses too much on story and presentation. As opposed to iterating on the success of the previous game.

See: Stalker, Dragons Dogma, Dying Light, Subnautica, etc

You'd have much better answers on the xbox store review page. barely any niggas ITT played the game

nothing went wrong lmao it kills me seeing zoomers who only played gamma and other modslop bitching about stalker 2. it was more playable than SoC was on release.

>>723420849

dragon's dogma was made by the exact same guy. he's just a fucking hack

also i feel like ppl Mandela'd themselves on what is a "true" stalker experience and just think mods are the real sdalger experience.

>>723420849
SoC was completely story driven, gagandeep anil dikshit kumar. It was honestly surprising how well the art direction matched the original games. Go back to playing R*ssian mods in your bihar hovel

GSC is run by a greedy faggot.

>>723421225
Always has been, that's why the SoC team fucked off instantly to make their own studio

>>723416196 (OP)
They spent all their EA censoring the previous titles instead of actually making a game

>>723416196 (OP)
From the top of my head:
Half assed Anomaly-fication, neither a linear game nor a proper sandbox, formless and unexciting (I guess it resembles Witcher 3 or something lol). Annoying design choices like making bloodsuckers take 10 shotgun shells and insane repair prices that make you want to never shot your gun. Bad balance, retarded weapon stats. UE5's graphical fuckery. Lacking many features from 18 years ago. Zone doesn't feel as grimey and inhospitable as in older games. Ambience sound not as good. Scar doesn't look Nordic enough.

>>723418195
>A life never existed and never was a thing.
Secondary. Go play unmodded CoP/CS and take a look around. Even SoC had persistence of NPCs, which goes a long way.

>>723416983
This. All in all I really enjoyed the time I spent with the game. Too bad it ran like dog shit so I quit playing at the point you have to pick a side.

>>723416196 (OP)
>no A-Life
>terrible optimization

My two biggest gripes with the game. I love the map and gunplay (with some mods) and the story is decent enough.

7/10

>>723417206
Jank is still very much there. I had to kill that quest giver in the windmill. He trapped me on the staircase because he wouldn't move. Failed the quest, couldn't be bothered to reload a save

>>723416196 (OP)
ITT: envious vatniks

>>723416196 (OP)
just like the original stalker its a good game built on shoddy architecture, its slowly getting better, will take time before it can be truly great, so i will hold off on playing it fully

>>723424368
Because of open world it will never get proper AI persistence so your fighting will always be random spawns with no flavour/changes happening on checkpoints and other points of interest.

AI is shockingly bad. Soldiers freeze behind cover for several minutes with half their body poking out, like their AI can't decide what they're doing. Dogs can't pathfind more than 2 inches off the ground and will just alternate between charging at you and running behind a tree if you climb on a 2ft high box. Enemies are given immediate god mode sight to see you through walls if you enter certain areas like the southern checkpoint buildings. I shot a neutral NPC in the back from 2 feet away with a silenced gun and he turned round, stared at me, yelled "HE MUST BE HERE SOMEWHERE" then walked past me. Then 15 feet away turned round and started shooting me. It's just awful.

>>723424568
I hate how all non-human enemies have that thing where they run off if you jump onto something. That's the smartest thing to do but that means they're smarter than the human enemies.

>>723417120
what game??

>>723424568
>>723418286
>>723419278
Interdedasting.

>be ukrainian
>crawl out of you basement to buy some food
>see picrel
What would you do?

>>723425341
pull out a pin from a fake grenade

>>723425341
This was fucking insane. Especially considering devs themselves dont reside in Ukraine IIRC

are the "enhanced" editions of the first 3 games any good or just the same old story of making it worse??

>>723425847
they are significanly worse than the modded originals.
New bugs, cut content and stolen community work poorly implemented.

>>723416196 (OP)
unreal slop 5.

>>723417034
the game itself is delightfully free of politicking for the most part
did they not include Russian text in the end?

I've played every stalker game, including gamma mods and everything

Overall I'd give it a 7/10 - it was ok

>>723425102
Project Silverfish, it's shit.
It looks like an asset flip, mainly because it mostly is, the dev decided to add his totally original furry OC characters that use the same ugly as fuck low-poly style though.
The AI is dumb as a bag of bricks, there is no A-life, the guns feel very unsatisfying to shoot, the looting is uninspired.

>>723420181
>guy says he made it so you don't have to unload guns because it was "unnecessary tedium"
what, I've been playing gamma for years and unloading guns has always been very necessary, ammo is such a finite resource that you have to pick up every round you can find so you can at least craft the ammo you need

>>723418232
>mutants
This was the biggest let down for me. I remember running a while from one point to the next, thinking how boring and safe it was. On Veteran difficulty.
No mutants jumping out at me from the bushes, no 'oh shit' moments or any sense of danger. Only the occasional spawn of bandits or whatever nearby; which was made obvious by the combat music chiming in.

>>723418232
>lack of womens

>>723427213
>never moves from that stall, wearing a full body suit all the while
imagine the smell

>>723427213
harpy is better, my autistic mask wearing wife

>>723416196 (OP)
It's clear they only spent like 10 months on it and released it way before it was ready

>>723427428
>he hasn't played patch 1.6
anon, i...

>>723427480
So basically every other Stalker game except the soul is gone

>>723416587
>one of the best games of the year

>>723427213
>>723427428
It's funny how this is the same character.
>"dmytro, we are still missing character for female technician!"
>"i'll get around to it blyat"
>"but dmytro, release in week!"
>"ooo pizdets! put mask on birch and put her in yanov, nobody will realize"

>>723427691
yeah, I'm not playing again until they manage to fix up the A-life, which will probably be never.
already got a rather enjoyable 50 hours out of the game anyways, so unless something seriously changes, why bother

>>723416196 (OP)
It's a hackjob.

>Write a story setting the game a few years after CoP
>Actually nevermind it's over 10 years after CoP for no reason
>Everyone in the zone spent the last 10 years doing nothing but get drunk or swap hideouts.
>Previous MCs all went full retard doing stupid shit.
>Degtyarev, a military officer of a high rank, now runs a stalker clan who guard Pripyat from... Nobody I guess.
>Scar is a fifty times brainwashed retard
>Strelok is suddenly a zone hippie
>the entire game is a small number of people just creating problems for each other until the world explodes/zone explodes/everyone's memories can be viewed on TV.
>Sideline Freedom, immediately introduce a different guerilla group. By the way they actually work for the Malachite institute.
>Sideline Duty, immediately introduce a different paramilitary group. By the way they also work for the Malachite institute.
>This overwhelming consensus forces them to fight each other.

>Rehash the map until it no longer makes sense for 'open world' meme.
>You can snipe from Garbage straight at CNPP
>Army Warehouses located at the border of the zone, where the barrier would not defend against anyone
>Previous MCs actually did insane loop-de-loops across the zone for the fuck of it.

>Combat is absolutely awful, human enemies have awful mobility and retarded pathfinding. Slowly walking away from you while shooting is definitely some console experience bullshit.
>Mutants all have the same sort of behavior pattern, and very few can handle you standing on a box

>World simulation is awful. The game consistently tries to airdrop enemies on you for 'entertainment', and fills camps with people who die during the next emission because camps don't have enough space in shelters.

Why'd it all happen like that? Original developers quit before release of ShoC. Then B team quit after Clear Sky. Then C team quit after Call of Pripyat. Then over 10 teams worked on Stalker 2 in various iterations.

>>723427213
needs more FSR upscaling and CAS deepfrying

>>723421353
Around half of the team already fucked off by the time the xbox 360 released to kickstart the 7th generation of console gaming.

>>723429447
Even the greedy faggot CEO fucked off so the company that made Stalker 2 was greedy faggot CEO's greedy faggot brother. It's insanely hilarious because some of the original devs came back during OG trilogy development (presumably to fuck off for the third time, 2nd time from original company).